BF Skinner Foundation - Pigeon Ping Pong Clip

[Fbiani]

i want to play

[lareinedu30]

Key~

[xsoundofmytears]

oh I'll think of that video tomorrow during the exam and smile ;) Literally awesome. that's what that is.

[Sharangir]

Now there's two options: Either they get more competitive and make it harder for eachother to get food. Or they take turns and cooperate, making it easier to get food. Too bad humans have a developed a competitive system, we can only hope the best for these pigeons.

[bananian]

They need to make a Skinner Pigeon Tournament!

[assflosssucks]

Who the fuck won?

[IndyCovaHart]

@assflosssucks Skinner did.

[vdst1]

This is a little funny. It seems the pigeons are missing on purpose, to give each other food. Now I don't know about that behaviour in pigeons, but it is studied in apes. ( Game playing and food sharing ). If you don't think birds are smart enough to do this, search this "Wild crows inhabiting the city" on youtube.

[shoemama]

YES!



[omgtkseth]

omg, lol, fucking bastard

[sweetkyss]

a demonstration of instrumental conditioning, and a learning technique called shaping:) amazing how positive reinforcement after a correct behaviour can cause organisms to increase its behaviour and perform such marvels for us:)

[BlackLazor]

@sweetkyss This is called classic conditioning and has almost nothing to do with shaping. Shaping is more refered to withing operant conditioning.

[mortsmang666]

@BlackLazor actually it is part of the operant conditioning. in order to make the pigeon's to learn the whole ping pong game you need to engorge them by each little step they do. Skinner, one of the most important psychologists whom discovered the operant conditioning has done this kind of experiment.

[BlackLazor]

@mortsmang666 While i hate the arguing techniques your using, listing random facts abour oc, your right. I sometimes mix thoose two, god i hate beeing wrong.

[jonintheshell]

this is how normal ping pong should be set up. i would practice and become really good if i received a little snack with every point.

[DarkanHavoc]

@jonintheshell No, you'd just become really fat.

[xIAMDAVEx]

thats cool, tho its not ping pong.. just pong. that old video game style

[WeeklyAd3]

wow haha this is awesome!

[anwerling2008]

looked this up because i saw it mentioned in my psych textbook. pretty cool :))

[xsamitt]

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[Funkytown421]

It would be interesting to find out if they really compete or if they shoot the balls equally to get food equally.

[StoneSlinging]

@Funkytown421 Indeed

[emptybosex]

@Funkytown421 Good question - do they co-operate? Co-operation is seen in some animals (eg wolves) for sure, and I've seen back-garden magpies gang up against a domestic cat, so it's feasible. But Skinner motivated the birds with mild hunger (though not stavation or lack of care), so greedy actions are also likely. IMHO, of course.

[Funkytown421]

@emptybosex of course they could as well compete in order to get more food than the other.

But: Is it more likely that they compete or do they cooperate? If they compete they can't accept that the other one gets food.

If they cooperate they accept that if they win/loose equally they'll get food at an equal ratio.

Do they aspire to achieve equal satisfaction and do they work together looking forward to the same goal?

[learningjen]

Thats really entertaining. But its not really a game is it, well not like humans think of games. Are those birds actually competeing with each other? I think that each of the birds has been conditioned to send the ball off the opposite end of the table, not taught how to play ping pong. Still gotta love it... they look so cute

[asunnydaycartoon]

2 people got pecked by ping pong pigeons

[deadlyvirusgiver]

Operant conditioning :)

[NapalmSV]

I'm a bird mothaf*@#er I'm a bird!

[LoveYourJoy]

I googled this because my lecturer mentioned it. I am disappointed they are not using little ping pong bats in their beaks as I imagined! : D I'm a wally! Doh!

[2SNP]

LOL, enuff said

[MaxTuretsky123]

cute

[saud11sh3]

The question is, does the pigeon on the right know that the pigeon on the left is being rewarded food each time it wins?

It doesn't seem like it. Else it would have walked to the other side and ate along.

[AceofDlamonds]

@saud11sh3

interesting. But it'd be better if they separated them lol

[rius69]

hi, any one knows who run this experiment, or really the own Skinner done it?

[Cokenijn]

@rius69

yeah, I believe it was Skinner who designed it

I remember one of my professor mentioning that

[777Skeptic]

2 people lost to a pigeon.

[MatthewHALO3star]

all amused say " I"

[flimda]

If Darwin saw this he would shit a brick

[john1136]

LOL that is really amazing.

[HomebrandMusic01]

all pigeons need to do is lose their beaks and learn to headbang and they could be amazing dildos

[invisiblemonsterr]

@HomebrandMusic01 wtf?

[privatepile762]

Thank you Skinner!

[TheSophist2007]

they should do a doubles match :)

[Pepsthecat]

How do they decide who gets to serve?

[dronespace]

pigeons really are clever birds, and cute too ^_^

[JIIIAIIIIMIIIIEIIIS]

i know its an experiment, but i think both pigeons deserve all the food they can eat!

[badlightman]

unglaublich wenn das wahr ist bin ich platt:remit1969@yahoo.de

[rarsenue]

informative

[2degucitas]

Wow! Pigeon's got game!!

[loginlover]

isn't behavioral science interesting?

[assassin5238]

Pigeon Pong .... o_o epic

[dedhead100]

Words cannot express how awesome this video is. By the way, who won?

[jasonskelley]

I would rather watch rats play basketball. Is that because I am American?

[demollyon]

did google tape this for the apri fool's joke?

[kennnmoran]

Maybe they take turns in loosing to get something to eat?

[rwshortie14]

WWOOOWWWWW 

[ShroomBead]

OH MY CHRIST THIS IS AWESOME

[girlonlaptop]

awesome!

[yessylizeth]

ping pong... i love to play ping pong... lol

[drzoidburgroxmysox]

"its a real game" lol

[teresamccann]

@drzoidburgroxmysox They are taking it more seriously than I do. But then again my food is not contingent upon making a good play. :)

[ralllphy]

skinner was a mad man

[iamsupercan]

hahaha awesome. I wish this video was longer.

[jawbraeka]

@iamsupercan cut the video into a loop = 10 hour loop lol

[theplantmonster]

haha. Just like people.

[firef1yyy]

Shaping is amazing.

[HabboBear1]

Awsome!!! I want one of those CUTE little DOVES!

[screilly]

soooooo cool!

[vespacurry]

The Pigeon Olympics.

[nashetegarciagmail]

Eso tendriamos que hacer con los futbolistas, o meteis goles o no hay papeo.

[illdawg1234]

its no wonder that pigeons were used as messengers, they are smart birds. notice how when the ball falls off the table the pigeon is smart enough to go get another one from the bottom of the table...

[snowflakeman]

its getting food not another ball

[GustavoMasisFlores]

its getting food...

[pam10geneseo]

The bird isn't "smart" per se, it's being conditioned to hit the ball like that. It's called operant conditioning, or conditioning by use of punishers or reinforcers. In this case, the food is a reinforcer; when the bird hits the ball past the other bird, it gets food. Thus, the bird is more likely to repeat that behavior. (The behavior, in other words, is reinforced.)

[OonaCanute]

The fact that it so easily responds to operant conditioning is indication that the bird IS smart. Besides, it's been proven that pigeons are pretty intelligent (some studies even indicate that they might even pass the mirror test).

[hermotsura]

the pigeon's getting food, not new balls. that's the whole experiment: conditioning, in this case Skinner's using food as an incentive.

[kjisdaman]

I think they are getting food, but you are right pigeons are incredibly smart birds

[skillen19]

well they're definitely smarter than one human at least.

[AceofDlamonds]

@skillen19

make that two humans

[MrWhiskers182]

omg! i love it!

[chaosspork]

This is pretty fun to watch.