As i said in my message to you the best way to destroy an enemy is from within if the weak minded people of our society will kill each other for toys then let them becouse it sounds awful but better them then me or you at least we can try to convince them that its the thought that counts not the actuall gift you get them.
I cannot let the weak of society kill even one person who has the potential to be one of the strong. Better them than me is the mentality of people who were too scared to fight the nazis.
what love it showed for her 2 be out on that early morning rat race to get a gift for her loved one. to take part n that rabid consumer running of the bulls. would that i cud have showed her how both the need to get the toy and the toy it self were cheap empty and plastic. i guess shopping really is the new hunting and sometimes the beast can catch u off guard. tis my hope that one day we will demolish wall mart much in the same way we demolished the Berlin wall only with more enthusiasm :|
Whats the solution? We know people get trampled by dummies, but how should the dummies be punished? Should we punish everyone that was there? Lecture or Jail time?
My personal opinion is don't fall in front of a crowd of people walking in your direction, and If someone knocks you down you can use their child or grandmother as a crutch to get up.
It has to start with a lecture, yes. I would love to lock everyone into a stadium and tell them to listen or go to jail. I would inspire them so much that the world would SURELY change.
People are animals. This stampeding every shopping season has parallels all over human experience. What about drunk driving? Takes more lives each year than all these shopping incidents put together.
I guess I agree with that basic idea but I'm not sure if you can take the person out of the mob and rid him or her of the mentality. Group identity is important to the human experience. It's the quest for status that drives these shopping incidents, the actual deaths are a product moral dissonance.
It seems ultra-petty to kill someone over simple things but it's the deviation from the norm that makes people so interested in these deaths. I don't know if this is something that is caused by...
That's true if you want to play with statistics. There's no telling how many lives are saved by people who do not drive drunk for fear of punishment or from moral choice.
There are more serious head injuries from car accidents than motorcycle accidents so why don't we require helmets in cars? That's a silly argument, although air-bags are technically car helmets. It's perilous to drive drunk while regular driving provides us with boundless personal freedom.
I agree with you. more fatalities, lower probablility doesnt take into account for human moral judgement. The average citizen is always at least two thirds aware of whats going on around them outside the car, but a drunk driver may or may not be aware, or may be aware but feel egocentrism and assume inebriation wont be a factor. Or, they drive well when drunk, and they get smoked by a sober driver. Moral action, my friends, is the gamble of life.
(cont)..."herd mentality" since people often fail to become involved when they witness another being assalted. Check out the video of the savage beatings in Montreal of two men:
watch?v=fKNOLRKydEg
It's technically illegal to hit someone for using a word in Canada, but as we can see from the disparity in outrage over this 'shopping incident' compared to an illegal assault shows how selective people apply condemnation of the "herd mentality". The real 'hate crime' is using a word.
I would say that it has been conditioned into us to not assist another human. See, waaaay back when, people used to assemble in groups. much like children will on a playground. Within the group, it was get along or find another group. If another group attacked, then of course, it was easy to decide who you were fighting against, and you helped your group. Fast forward, now we are all one group. and it doesnt work that way. We have to either make it work, or go extinct. We face that right now.
Well with all due respect and I've watched all your videos and I've always respected your take on things, I don't think it's a matter of being "conditioned" at all. Most of us do have a visceral reaction to suffering, although some people, namely psychopaths and sociopaths, actually enjoy it. You couldn't enjoy the UFC without placing suffering and injury into a differnt emotive compartment.
Not that I'm saying enjoying UFC makes one a psychocapth, I enjoy it myself. It's a very fine line.
My own belief is that you cannot change human nature that much. You can scarcely change someone's behavior to make him not suffere depression, anxiety, shyness, hyper-sensitivity, or sexual lust for the same sex. But behavior therapy can work in those cases, even for homosexuality, but it's not likely to work and be a waste of time and resources.
It's modern civilization being anonymous and human diffidence that causes one not to aid another. And the group dynamic you spoke of that created us
I do agree our diffidence has led us to our cut-off from each other. We must eradicate it. We must learn that the only consequence of sharing our ideas and lives is that someone may not relate to them and may choose to move on. Such as is in this conversation, I think lol
Well dear, you're certainly arguing with the wrong person, because I consider myself to be a sadistic submissive, so I enjoy both sides of the fence. Alot of us do have a very solid moral character, but there are many, many who dont. or they have remorse, but feel...once again...helpless in the mob, so they follow through.
a person getting trampled to death on black friday is a big deal. its crazy that they are only saying something about it in a local online newspaper column. I dont think they will be airing this concern on todays reviews of black friday. wouldn't want to scare away the potential shoppers from spending all their money at these freak events. Right on GC! another good one..
A rapetoy!? thats harsh.
CincinnatusSPQR 3 years ago
Huh? lol
gimpchrist 3 years ago
Hmm?
CincinnatusSPQR 3 years ago
That thing about the pregnant woman, is that true!?
wagnerologist1984 3 years ago
yep.
gimpchrist 3 years ago
Think of it as a ritual sacrifice to the god of K-Mart. "To ensure low, low prices!"
CincinnatusSPQR 3 years ago
As i said in my message to you the best way to destroy an enemy is from within if the weak minded people of our society will kill each other for toys then let them becouse it sounds awful but better them then me or you at least we can try to convince them that its the thought that counts not the actuall gift you get them.
KEVINKRUD 3 years ago
I cannot let the weak of society kill even one person who has the potential to be one of the strong. Better them than me is the mentality of people who were too scared to fight the nazis.
gimpchrist 3 years ago
what love it showed for her 2 be out on that early morning rat race to get a gift for her loved one. to take part n that rabid consumer running of the bulls. would that i cud have showed her how both the need to get the toy and the toy it self were cheap empty and plastic. i guess shopping really is the new hunting and sometimes the beast can catch u off guard. tis my hope that one day we will demolish wall mart much in the same way we demolished the Berlin wall only with more enthusiasm :|
kawlynn 3 years ago
Whats the solution? We know people get trampled by dummies, but how should the dummies be punished? Should we punish everyone that was there? Lecture or Jail time?
My personal opinion is don't fall in front of a crowd of people walking in your direction, and If someone knocks you down you can use their child or grandmother as a crutch to get up.
dingusmungus 3 years ago
It has to start with a lecture, yes. I would love to lock everyone into a stadium and tell them to listen or go to jail. I would inspire them so much that the world would SURELY change.
gimpchrist 3 years ago
You advocate trampling to death factory workers? You sick fuck.
itsthemechanic 3 years ago
ohhhhh tardface. lol, i do so hope your comment is as sarcastic as i was being in the video.
gimpchrist 3 years ago
My thoughts exactly Mr. Frank =)
gimpchrist 3 years ago
Amen!
Gomer21XX 3 years ago
i dont do that type of shit.
captcaveman4201 3 years ago
People are animals. This stampeding every shopping season has parallels all over human experience. What about drunk driving? Takes more lives each year than all these shopping incidents put together.
tlkSmack1 3 years ago
But drunk driving isn't caused by mob mentality...which was my point. We have to stop thinking like barnyard animals at slaughtertime.
gimpchrist 3 years ago
I guess I agree with that basic idea but I'm not sure if you can take the person out of the mob and rid him or her of the mentality. Group identity is important to the human experience. It's the quest for status that drives these shopping incidents, the actual deaths are a product moral dissonance.
It seems ultra-petty to kill someone over simple things but it's the deviation from the norm that makes people so interested in these deaths. I don't know if this is something that is caused by...
tlkSmack1 3 years ago
Sober driving kills more people then drunk driving... No really. Look it up. More fatalities, but a lower probability of occurrence.
dingusmungus 3 years ago
That's true if you want to play with statistics. There's no telling how many lives are saved by people who do not drive drunk for fear of punishment or from moral choice.
There are more serious head injuries from car accidents than motorcycle accidents so why don't we require helmets in cars? That's a silly argument, although air-bags are technically car helmets. It's perilous to drive drunk while regular driving provides us with boundless personal freedom.
tlkSmack1 3 years ago
I agree with you. more fatalities, lower probablility doesnt take into account for human moral judgement. The average citizen is always at least two thirds aware of whats going on around them outside the car, but a drunk driver may or may not be aware, or may be aware but feel egocentrism and assume inebriation wont be a factor. Or, they drive well when drunk, and they get smoked by a sober driver. Moral action, my friends, is the gamble of life.
gimpchrist 3 years ago
(cont)..."herd mentality" since people often fail to become involved when they witness another being assalted. Check out the video of the savage beatings in Montreal of two men:
watch?v=fKNOLRKydEg
It's technically illegal to hit someone for using a word in Canada, but as we can see from the disparity in outrage over this 'shopping incident' compared to an illegal assault shows how selective people apply condemnation of the "herd mentality". The real 'hate crime' is using a word.
tlkSmack1 3 years ago
I would say that it has been conditioned into us to not assist another human. See, waaaay back when, people used to assemble in groups. much like children will on a playground. Within the group, it was get along or find another group. If another group attacked, then of course, it was easy to decide who you were fighting against, and you helped your group. Fast forward, now we are all one group. and it doesnt work that way. We have to either make it work, or go extinct. We face that right now.
gimpchrist 3 years ago
Well with all due respect and I've watched all your videos and I've always respected your take on things, I don't think it's a matter of being "conditioned" at all. Most of us do have a visceral reaction to suffering, although some people, namely psychopaths and sociopaths, actually enjoy it. You couldn't enjoy the UFC without placing suffering and injury into a differnt emotive compartment.
Not that I'm saying enjoying UFC makes one a psychocapth, I enjoy it myself. It's a very fine line.
tlkSmack1 3 years ago
My own belief is that you cannot change human nature that much. You can scarcely change someone's behavior to make him not suffere depression, anxiety, shyness, hyper-sensitivity, or sexual lust for the same sex. But behavior therapy can work in those cases, even for homosexuality, but it's not likely to work and be a waste of time and resources.
It's modern civilization being anonymous and human diffidence that causes one not to aid another. And the group dynamic you spoke of that created us
tlkSmack1 3 years ago
I do agree our diffidence has led us to our cut-off from each other. We must eradicate it. We must learn that the only consequence of sharing our ideas and lives is that someone may not relate to them and may choose to move on. Such as is in this conversation, I think lol
gimpchrist 3 years ago
Well dear, you're certainly arguing with the wrong person, because I consider myself to be a sadistic submissive, so I enjoy both sides of the fence. Alot of us do have a very solid moral character, but there are many, many who dont. or they have remorse, but feel...once again...helpless in the mob, so they follow through.
gimpchrist 3 years ago
a person getting trampled to death on black friday is a big deal. its crazy that they are only saying something about it in a local online newspaper column. I dont think they will be airing this concern on todays reviews of black friday. wouldn't want to scare away the potential shoppers from spending all their money at these freak events. Right on GC! another good one..
-Ace
acemaverick07 3 years ago
Did you hear of the shots fired outside of a toys'r'us as well? Fuckered up, I tells ya.
gimpchrist 3 years ago
that's fucking aweful, people are immature assholes.
Vampira86 3 years ago
People are conditioned animals. Thats all. =(
gimpchrist 3 years ago