12-5-09 Protest at CSU, Stanislaus President Shirvani's House (Part 1 of 6)

[RunLiberty]

Ron Paul 2012 for President

Government should not be running schools-Pell Grants, Sallie Mae are government

backed makes tuition high

[stanstate1]

seriously, where do you want the money to come from? a college education is a privilege, the money isn't gonna float out of nowhere. i'm not against this protest, i'm against saying education should be free

[CredibleWitness100]

Nevermind... your "protest" actually had 15 students and five 5th graders. I think i also saw a retired faculty member in the back. You guys are pathetic and have no idea about organizing a real rally. You make me laugh retards.

[CredibleWitness100]

Your "protest" is not a protest. Its a stupid hissy fit with 20 students. Compare that to our 10,000 student march you biatch.

[csustudent209]

It's not my protest. Yes it is a protest. It's a small campus, what counts here aren't how many participants we get but rather the percentage of support (it's pretty high considering the population of CSUS). You are the biatch who obviously hasn't taken statistics. How sad.

[Ramnation45]

you guys should go to the state capital to protest, not shirvanis house....the decisions he makes are influenced from the captial....we've all taken a political science course we should know this =D

[savecsustanislaus]

Sacramento is next!

But why is it Stanislaus has had to cut a higher percentage of faculty than any other CSU (21% vs. 8% average)? Also, do we really need nearly as many administrators as Fresno state(they're 4 times our size)? In the search for a new provost wouldn't it make more sense to do phone interviews before paying to flying out potential candidates? If our administration missuses our money and refuses to listen we WILL take it to their doorstep!

[csustudent209]

If a protest needs to go into someone's bathroom while they are using it, let it be. People get what they deserve eventually. Let it rain my dear, let it rain.

[csustudent209]

He's annoying. He deserves it. They also took it to his office building. It's hillarious!

[stanstate1]

this is embarassing. you all look like you have no idea what you're talking about and just wanna bitch and moan. you don't want anymore budget cuts, but you also don't want fees? where do you expect the money to come from?

[rootsmandub]

from the incredibly wealthy Californians and the California based multnational corporations whose property taxes never come up?

[stanstate1]

so you want handouts?

[iLUVfemals]

ITS TIME FOR COMMUNISM TO TAKE OVER!!!!! LET"S KILL HIM!!!!!! j/k

[0604sarah]

He should speak up for us, since he has such huge power to make a difference. One man is the voice of so many. We do have our facts straight, and that's why we protest. So what if the protest is organized by students and is not up to your standards, msbowe? Don't join. Sit back and don't do anything. Put your feet up. And keep paying MORE for and education where you are receiving LESS.  Complain and do nothing- the problem will fix it'self.

Yeah fucking right. Good luck with that.

[0604sarah]

Those of you saying it's not President Shirvani's fault- you're right. It's not directly his decision to cut the money, but he IS a huge contributor in ALLOWING it to happen. "The pain does not come from the words of your enemies, but the silence from your friends"

[CredibleWitness100]

hey csustudent you dont know jack about the President, so don't pretend to claim that you do. He has done more for this campus than any administrator i know. do you honestly think that he is cutting winter term because he is plainning to build the death star or something? erin bowe is right - as long as you and your retard friends spout off rediculous accusations about the budget situation, you leave the impression that students at stanislaus know little about whats going on in the real world

[csustudent209]

hey "credible"wtiness yes I do know the President! You don't have a shred of evidence to prove otherwise. I'm not making anyone look like anything. People can stand up for themselves. The president is a hypocrite and a coward.

[msbowe]

If you are interested in making a real change, let me know. I am a dedicated student and dedicated to this university.

However, I am NOT dedicated to working with a group of students who don't have their facts straight and are poorly organized.

[msbowe]

Maybe by figuring out WHAT you want before you actually start asking for a change would be a good place to start.

Creating and formulating your own ideas, as students, rather than just what you hear from faculty, the news and your friends would be a GREAT place to start.

Register to vote, lobby at the capitol to lawmakers who SLASHED your budget and make a change there. They are the ones who cut your money.

Do you really think Shirvani HATES students? If you do, you're sadly mistaken.

[csustudent209]

msbowe, I partially agree with what you are trying to communicate. While it's true that there are better methods of communication besides protesting out in neighborhoods, I don't believe that Shirvani advocates for students. It seems like he does at first, but when you learn to see what lies below the surface (disregarding all the cuts etc) and you really learn to see him for who he is, then the light becomes brighter and it's evident who he works for.

[CredibleWitness100]

Haha he wasn't even home when they did this!! You guys look dumb!

[ZowaaGabarta]

He supposedly wasn't present when they protested outside of his university office, when in fact he was hiding inside. The man's a coward, and these protestors are brave for standing up for something instead of being indifferent to Shirvani's short-sighted policies.

[csustudent209]

Yeah, he's done that before. He will hide in his office and tell his muppets out in the front office to tell the students that he isn't in, that he will be back next week etc. He's such a scared little barbie doll.

[csustudent209]

His wife was taking pictures and video. You are the one who is dumb. Take that from someone who hasn't joined a single protest. What a moron you are "credible"

[CredibleWitness100]

You amateurs are embarassing... we've been protesting for a while now... I'm glad you retards have finally decided to join the party. Better late than never I suppose. Next time you should join the real protests when they matter.

Search our march on YouTube you moron csustudent. Type in:

"Lt. Governor Garamendi Rallies Students During California Community"

You'r amateur protest makes our campus look bad. Idiot.

[csustudent209]

This isn't a party you incredible retard. Real protests? Oh I suppose you think this video is fake, you must be a confucian, people who think reality is just imagination. I'm not searching for anything on youtube so keep your useless advice to yourself. I don't care and neither does anyone else. You are annoying and nonsensical. DUH luh DUH DUh.

[MsThisisridiculous]

I am a student at CSU Stanislaus and I am ashamed. If you have a problem with him you keep it on campus. California made cuts to education so you should expect changes. People do not have the right to invade someones privacy. What kind of people will do that? He purchased his house with his own money. Hardly anyone takes winter term so why make a big deal. It was either cutting winter term or lay offs? What is more reasonable?

[savecsustanislaus]

A $50,000 annual housing allowance from the CSU is his own money? A survey found that over 80% of students and faculty wished to keep winter term. This protest is about more than budget cuts and keeping winter term. It is about addressing the poor management and lack of visibility in the Shirvani administration.

[MsThisisridiculous]

My argument is that although people have misconceptions as to what the issue at hand is. Nobody has the right to invade someone's personal life. I understand people's frustration but you also have to look at the bigger picture. Money problems are national not local, everyone is suffering not just Stanislaus. The decision to cut the funding was from the State not from him. I am not trying to defend him but I do think that it was very uncalled for to violate his home and his family.

[csustudent209]

Nobody has the right to invate someone's personal life? Shirvani has not only invaded ours, he has ruined it too. Yes, many issues are local, others are national, and the students are protesting because they are fed up and they want their voices to be heard. Sounds like it's working :D Violate? He violated us right and left!!!!! Nobody has violated him. What the students are doing amounts to nothing in comparison to what many others would have already done!!!!!

[csustudent209]

He isn't a part of the solution. With the kind of promises he has made, and what he did to get himself the approval of so many people (at first), really made people mad. Hence the protests. So if they have to go into his restroom as he's using it to get it through his head that what he did was wrong, let it be.

[ZowaaGabarta]

Actually, the president's home is paid for by taxpayer's. He receives a monthly housing and car allowance, not to mention all the perks he gives himself, "budget cuts" be damned. Furthermore, a majority of our students both enrolled in Winter term and voiced their opposition to its elimination, as did the CSUS faculty. Shirvani, as usual, ignored them and acted unilaterally in dismantling it. It was never an "either/or" situation in terms of layoffs. Stop listening to their lies.

[MsThisisridiculous]

Someone always has to make the tough decisions and that person will always look bad. Again will you guys be happier if he would of kept winter term and lay off staff? We are in a deficit and if you guys have a problem with it take it to the capitol or to the white house. I think you guys are giving a person too much power.

[ZowaaGabarta]

Again, there was no "winter term or layoffs" scenario. Shirvani doesn't make "tough decisions"; the man is a famous coward, cutting people and programs left and right and ALWAYS blaming his provost or one of his many other administrators. Those budget figures change with the wind, depending on his mood, or who his current target is. Shirvani is using the excuse of "budget cuts" to slash and burn and it's going to take years to fix all the damage he's caused.

[MsThisisridiculous]

How would you like it if someone went to your house during your time off and disturb you just because they have a work problem with you? Think about it, nobody has the right to violate someone's privacy like that. Everyone would agree that even if your argument was true that was was done made your message sound wrong. As I said you have to look at the Whole picture and stop giving one man a lot of power.

[csustudent209]

When students protest on the street or on sidewalks, they aren't invading anyone's privacy. What they are doing is called protesting and it's perfectly legal. What kind of people do that? People who are fed up. Why make it a big deal? Beacuse unlike you, some students do care about their education and they are fed up with administrators behaving like animals. He got away with both Winter term cut offs and lay offs as well. Ms. Thisisridiculous, you are ridicuouls!!!! And so is your stupid name.

[csustudent209]

You can stay on campus if you'd like. The rest of them want to take it a step further. Don't get in the way. The #s are growing it seems.

[dontbedumbful]

Because vandalizing is legal? Tone up the discourse a notch. Communicate like adults. Why would I, as a ca voter, want to fund an education that inspires you to act this way? Learn your talking points and protest in Sacramento or come to a cssa meeting become engaged and be a proactive problem solver.

[csustudent209]

Communicating like adults hasn't worked for them!!!!! Insanity-trying something over and over again expecting different results. Obviously, if attempting to communicate with them nicely didn't work, they've ought to try something else. Duh!

[savecsustanislaus]

Our protest was completely peaceful and legal. There was no vandalism. Our student government has failed to represent the interests of students and to just do yet another march on Sacramento would make much less of an impact. Bringing this fight to President Shirvani's doorstep and into the community has already brought us a lot of visibility.

[csustudent209]

Those meetings are totally biased. Nobody cares about homeless people, CSUS students, and so on.

[csustudent209]

What comes around goes around SHIRVANI!!!! Keep that in mind next time you decide to freaking insult a student and give them the cold shoulder after they don't side with you over a matter!!! Did you guys forget the eggs and the toilet paper? Where are the black ribbons? Where is the statement? Tone it up a notch, keep it legal though.