Monckton keeps fleecing gullible climate change denial nuts with his pseudoscience at paid speaking engagements, and the polar ice melt rate continues to accelerate.
On saying that, there has to be negative ramifications to our earth as we pull it's ingredients from the ground in mass abundance & destroy whole rainforests in record timeframes to use in shitty oils in food that shouldn't be used anyway. Just like any living form like humans, donkeys, cows, etc, etc, the Earth (although waaaay for resiliant than any beast) has to have a breaking point, like if you keep removing the blood or internal organs of a human, they will eventually die. Same with Earth.
Oh brother. Poor Lord is going in circles with this brainwashed asshat. And waterforpeople.....how was he picking on this "poor lone" women, he was not rude, he was not trying to push his views on her, he was simply asking who, why & where she was getting her information from... and was informing her where she could go to get the other side of the story...You can tell us about some other scientist debunking him, so what, it's just another 1 on the affirmative with his own cherry picked data.
20 - 30 years from now everybody will claim they were not fooled. When everyone gives me the shame,shame finger move, when I diagree with the mouth foaming gloabal warming fanatics.
Weather they prove or disprove global warming does not matter at all. What matters is that people use more renewable energy because the planets resources wont last forever. Also there is nothing wrong with people using more solar and wind power.
What does anyone get out of fighting against the belief in global warming? hmmm
@iron13man the problem is not that they wish to use solar and wind power, it's that they wish to force us to use solar and wind power without first proving that it's a necessary, financially viable option for replacing fossil fuels. I completely agree that if they were to go into the woods and live in a small solar cabin (something I intend to do) there would be no problem, and it would help in conserving fossil fuels. live and let live. liberty or death.
@slshaw1234 No one can force us to use solar and wind power. It's too expensive an initial investment for many. If they prove we do or do not need it wont matter. What matters is weather an individual wants to get solar and wind now and save money later or use public power. These debates are silly because neither side has complete information and yet they argue. The truth is probably that they are both correct to some degree. Yet they act as if the world is black and white. Nice reframe.
@iron13man the only thing i disagree with you on is when you say no one can force us to use solar and wind power. they cannot actually force us to purchase them now but the legislation that they intend to pass into law would make it impossible to get anything other than what is deemed "green" by a board appointed and paid by the people passing the legislation. they've already started this process in making it impossible for us to utilize our own fossil fuels by "demagoguing" fossil fuels.
@slshaw1234 We had all better hurry and purchase our windmills and solar panels now then before they start this regulation. These people are so silly. Wouldn't you agree?
Check out the You Tuibe videos here showing Dr. Abraham debunking him point by point. Monckton uses cherrypicked data to present a false picture. He has been roundly debunked, and even tried to silence Dr.Abraham because of the truth being told. And people wonder why no one will debate him? He is irrelevant, that's why.
What a phony coward. He's reduced to picking on a woman who isn't even a scientist.That's the only way he looks semi intelligent spewing his garbage. Let's see him go up against a real climate scientist. Oh, but he won't because Dr. John Abraham already debunked his phony crayon graphs and cherrypicked data. What a waste of film this is.
I have a life and a job! I don't have time to check the facts; I only have time to stand outside a building with a sign for extended periods of time based on an assumption about those facts I have no time to check.
To my understanding Lord Christopher Monckdon was the scientific advisor to Margeret Thatcher during her reign as U.Ks Prime Minister. His specialty is the subject of Global Warming and I believe he is considered to be one of most well respected advisors on the subject. He has repeatedly challenged Ale Gore to appear on international television to prove him incorrect, I believe Ale Gore hasn't taken up the challenge., I wonder why?
i believe in man made global warming, it's called haarp and chemtrails, *people point and laugh* CONSPIRACY THEORIST, no...cloud seeding, operation popeye, russian woodpecker, all weather modification, any more proof? the history channel: weather warfare, controlling the weather is more devastating than a nuclear bomb, YOU CONSPIRACY THEORIST!!!
Like i said i believe in "Man made" global warming, it's called haarp, do your research, we also have warming and cooling periods, every million years
sadly climate change, real or not, is the least of our worries. The loss of biodiversity, habitats, and water are far more pressing issues that are not being addressed accordingly.
I don't have proof or facts but common sense tells me that the environment is under ever increasing pressure and something should be done to turn this around.
This woman seems to be a person who in the Middle-ages would steadfastedly believe that the world was flat, even if she would be taken on a space-ship and see the planet being round herself... Lord Monckton is so great!!!
Mr. Monckton is right about Global Warming being a bog-gas propaganda skeem but there are some things that he may not know as well as the woman, but very interesting conversation they had...
Lord Monckton is such an idiot. He can talk well but doesn't know his shit. All he does is old rethorical tricks. I can do them too. Cheap shot imo. All he has are well prepared lies to confuse people.
Actually you could do the exact same rethorical game against you guys with the same result. He still offers no proof whatsoever. And the university of illinois is by far not the hub of climate research.
He just claims his sources are all correct and hers are all false. No proof at all.
@Samurailord He has done several long presentations dealing with, in excruciating detail, the fallacies of the hockey stick graph etc. as well as pointing out the plethora of data omitted by the IPCC as well as inarguably fudged data. Go watch them. Do you even know even know what the linear regression trend is? It's easy to see you have bought into climate dogma.
So you think it's easy to see? Funny words from a blind man.
Yes, i understand what linear regression trend is. If you understand the math behind it and the climate properties it should describe you also understand why it is not a valid way to get data that has scientific value.
And please dont use words like "inarguably". Just because you watched some videos and maybe read a little on wikipedia you think you understand such a complex phenomenon like the global climate? Pretty please..
He told her "not to believe him or anyone else" but to instead look at the evidence for herself. I, for one, have read a lot on this subject and easily find that the effect man has had on the global temperatures is minimal, that man is creating far worse damage in other areas than this CO2 lie and we are wasting our efforts to solve a non-problem instead of the real ones.
Want sources? Look at the sources in the book "What happened to the American Dream."
500 letters is nowhere near enough to really explain to you why he is full of shit. Instead you could show where he is right. In that case you wont need 500 letters.
@ NativeNewMexican
Those "sources" in that book are not of scientific value. The whole scientific community worldwide agrees on climate change facts. If there really were ANY sources that are more than lies of scared people and lobbys dont you think the intellectual elite would know about it?
The sources in that book are invalid because you say so? The whole scientific community? You're so high on your self righteousness you have no idea what truth is. The FACT is that the WHOLE scientific community doesn't agree on this at ALL!
The founder of the weather channel is suing Gore for fraud. Thirty thousand scientists and more disagree with your "WHOLE" scientific community.
You have no proof and no evidence that has not been debunked. You say MY sources have no scientific value. lol
Ever think that MAYBE, just MAYBE those that get paid when they FIND a problem but don't get paid when they DON'T FIND a problem would have some sort of incentive to misrepresent, to overlook, to skew and even fabricate?
I'm sure you didn't even look at the sources I cited. I'm just as sure that you completely overlook every other source that goes counter to your "enlightened" view just like the "elite" that you worship.
You're a poster child for the claim that Climate Change is a Religion.
No they are invalid because science has shown otherwise. You might not be familiar how "scientific" proof is exactly defiend. But in simple terms it means that you are wrong and they are right because the can back up their claims and you can not.
Nothing you say changes that. Not even your 30k scientists that oppose global warming. Because i can call 30k people on the street "scientists" too. The point is that the leading scientists all agree. So stop lying to your self.
Science has shown otherwise? Where? I am familiar with the scientific method and the FACT is you have provided NO EVIDENCE during this debate. Back up your claims.
@NativeNewMexican CAPS don't make your wishes come true. You might be familiar with the method but definately not with the research in the field. Go get educated and read all the publications. There: I backed up my claims. The evidence is there. Lots of it. Unchanllenged evidence by the way. No one of you "30k scientists" has found anything to challenge it. I can not read and learn for you tough. This is something you can only do yourself. Do it and wake up or stay scared in denial.
Your evidence is "all the publications"? Unchallenged evidence? I've given you a source that challenges your claim, you haven't cited where it is wrong. Lord Monckton has cited sources that you haven't proven wrong. You have provided absolutely no evidence to support your claim, give me one of these publications to look at.
BTW I didn't reference the 30k scientist thing because very few of the scientists in it were climatologists or in related fields.
Your quote, "He just claims his sources are all correct and hers are all false. No proof at all. " applies to your own statements.
How could you be so insightful about Monckton's chicanery and so blind to the same from yourself and the other believers in the overblown belief in man made global warming.
I noticed that Samurai hasn't responded to this at all, he just keeps claiming his sources are correct and that the others are false. He has no proof at all either.
@NativeNewMexican You just dont get how this works. Except for a little minority of scared denialists (you) the whole world and scientific community agrees that there IS global warming.
If you want to challenge that theory YOU need to come up with new research and evidence. You can not challenge thousands of manhours of research with nothing in hands.
Until this day noone has ever been able to deliver any counterevidence that could stand up against global warming. It is all easy to debunk :)
@Samurailord No, YOU just don't get how it works. If you make an assertion, you have to prove it. YOU and others have made assertions that man is causing global warming. YOU have claimed that there is evidence and thousands that prove it is so. If the evidence is so prevailing, provide ONE, just ONE source and I will provide evidence that it's chicanery, manipulated data, or proven false.
@NativeNewMexican Yes. And global warming has been prooven to a very large extent. This is why it is the worldwide accepted theory and there are no publications that say otherwise that were able to withstand the scientific critisism. No need to provide ONE, as there are already a lot more provided. For years now. As i said: You need to go get educated and stop commenting topics you dont understand. IF you can provide counter evidence as you claim.. DO IT. The nobel price will be yours.
@Samurailord "No need to provide ONE, as there are already a lot more provided" well, could you point to ANY of them? All you do is call people names, "get educated" and "you don't understand" instead of actually debating. I DID provide counter evidence. You have yet to debunk it.
Again, it is NOT a worldwide accepted theory, you saying it is doesn't make it so. Even if it WAS worldwide accepted theory, it was worldwide accepted fact that the earth was flat once.
@NativeNewMexican I am looking forward to read your papers once they are beeing published. Please send me a message once you can provide anything.
Until then.. i have made my point and you offered nothing worth of discussion in return. This is why this will be my last comment, as i have better things to do with my time.
@Samurailord Ok, let me recap. Your point is: "He just claims his sources are all correct and hers are all false. No proof at all." and you provide no proof. You ask for me to cite sources, which I did: "What happened to the American Dream" and others, and you provided no counterargument.
You exemplified your own statement as promised when you said, "All he does is old rethorical tricks. I can do them too. "
I love how that idiot woman just accepts the ideas that global warming-change-whatever advocates claim, without reading any of the facts herself, then she tells Monckton that to agree with his researched facts, she would have to look them up herself.
Whenever you're ready, though, you can contribute to your own beliefs by giving up your computer, instead of demanding that everyone around you lives to your liking. So give up your ol' pollutin' computer and get outside, wiping your ass with leaves and never fighting off even basic illness! Sounds like a harmonious and beautiful existence..
God what a rant. But Jesus Christ people, you got to get out of this mindset of "I'm right no matter what fact or inconvenience dictates." Sure, we need to check our waste. No, we don't need to attack business and civilians to do so. No, we don't need to go backwards in global development in order to "save" some lonely bear. We don't need idiots littering all the time, sure, but we don't need religious fanatic earth-loving neo-pagans protesting on their "green" personal computer.
The same innocent earth-loving gaia-loving girl who was willing to distort truth to sway others to her beliefs is part of something bigger: the human ability to lie, to blind one's self and others, to deceive. This makes somebody dangerous. One who skips one boundary to achieve their agenda will skip another. So, okay, there's no factual proof that this girl needed to see to back up her views, so what's next? You don't need votes to back up the leaders she wants?
And now we come to an interesting point: the girl who has so wittily removed herself from association with any traditional set of values, such as Christianity or Judaism or Islam, the girl who has proclaimed herself to be "modern," has made a full turn-around and entered right back into the mindset of ancient superstitious folk, refusing to change their beliefs in the face of anything, even fact, even reality. So that is therefore a religion. But there is something else.
I remember some young girl youtube user who posted a video making many baseless claims, including, I kid you not, that "2/3rds of Antarctica have melted," which was a misconception of another statement made in a flawed "report" by an environmentalist-motivated unilateral activist group- not the scientific community. But what did this girl say? That she was ultimately right because, after all, she was just trying to spread the message that it is important to pay a carbon tax or whatever the hell.
Funny thing about these modern, non-traditional environmentalists is this: at some point the past we saw both man and his created superstitions and religions exist together. Nowadays we can point to those beliefs as childish, primitive, backwards, and completely human. So, we named those belief systems, with names that are now old and unrecognized, and shunted them. Only many years later, we return to the same thought processes, only with a new name: environmentalism.
You can't argue with the environmentalists in fact, because when they depart from logic you will run into these problems: Environmentalists believe it's okay to be half-wrong or worse with all of their facts, since they will tell you it is merely ultimately about them caring about the world- suggesting new taxes on massive populations as a solution. These people are a religion, and why is that? Because they exercise "faith," they will not be argued against with fact or reason.
"Stupid question. Similarly, people have been dying for hundreds of years- why be against it now?"
So if climate change has indeed been going on longer than man could possibly have caused, you are saying that it is still important to halt it, even if it is a totally natural and non-man-made phenomenon? So we must save ourselves by...interfering completely in every aspect of humanity's existence, including our 'environment' (your total surroundings), to stop ourselves from destroying all of it?
Look I'm not in the mood to write as much as you did. 1. what makes you an expert and not just a semi-informed skeptic. 2. temps have risen DRAMATICALLY in the last couple decades matching up almost exactly with our carbon output. 3. Sure natural processes are happening but it doesn't mean humans have no effect whatsoever. 4. Our energy consumption poisons the planet in other ways, regardless. 5. Conservatives should be against destroying the commons and protect it on our own volition.
Yes, emissions of nanoparticulates into the air as in smog, ozone at ground (breathing) level and damage to natural habitats on land and in the ocean are very real consequences of our vast amount of energy consumption.
Also, every engine and light bulb out there is like a little heater. Most of the energy is converted directly into heat... and with all this heat being produced all the time everywhere in the world, don't you think it would have SOME effect? or does heat not warm things up?
So you're saying that some pollution created by man, even if it's not anywhere near what people imagine, must be handled in the exact same way as global warming? Right, I never labeled you anything, I don't know you. Half of those comments weren't directed at you, you just started talking due to your self importance. So here you are, shown that global warming is a swindle, and you have exhibited your "faith" by ignoring fact and citing none while continuing to persist in delusion. Religion.
That's the exact religion I've been talking about. The mindset of people who support the ideas of "climate" scientists and/or activist groups exhibit all the same characteristics of somebody who's practicing a particular religion.
you obviousely have no idea about the terms "science" and "religion". The two are totaly different in the way that religion is based on believe and science is based on proof.
That is why global warming is a scientific theory and all other crap is not. Because global warming is supported by a lot of research while all the "oh its only a scam" idiots worldwide never published ANYTHING that could hold up against scientific analysis. Now why do you think that is?
A 'lot of research'? This 'research' has yet uncovered the reason why the inexorable rise in temperature has been halted in the past 10 years, and the temperature has, in fact, dropped by .5 deg. Celsius in that period.
Conservatives should be against destroying the commons? What does that statement even mean? Is global warming, the gigantic lie, a black and white left-vs-right issue with you? Obviously it's loudest supporters are leftist, but to you that means the righties want you dead? They want the common man killed by his own environment? Makes a lot of sense, after all, all conservatives do is ground themselves in traditional moral beliefs and cultural values.
Dude. Calm the fuck down and read a book. I am anything but the leftist you accuse me to be because you seem to think that anyone who defends the environment in any way is a leftists. How's that for black and white? You are an embarrassment and you would hurt the leftists more by shutting up. Thanks.
I don't care about YOU, I don't care what you think of yourself as, I don't care to hear you tell me to shut up as an end to your agument. Why do you even initiate dialogue in order to tell me to shut up? I am am embarrassment? How so? Because I list sources to the reports I reference in relation to global climate? Or because I mentioned that there is a large leftist sympathy for Al Gore's new religion? And whatever YOU are, I don't care, but please stop showing your unwarranted self importance.
Typing several small comments on a keyboard that has saved one from having to manually write a single thing is what you call not being calm? So what is "calm"? To use single, generally stupid sentences, with a minimalist inattention paid to things such as logic or courtesy?
Assuming you are saying that we need to halt "climate change" (no longer global warming) even if it is a natural process, then let's look at this: you must then believe that the earth has so radically been changed by the common person as well as the private sector. So, your logical belief is that the only entity that can offer you "salvation" is the government, something consistently shown to be deadly. Kind of like a religion, kind of like a leftist. All in one.
Also, don't label me anything. You don't know me. I never said the gov't should take control. You did. It's up to us to want to protect our planet--not to ask the government to make others protect it. So don't give up responsibility just because leftists make a big deal about it.
Despite your baseless assumptions of human "damage", I must say that this is an enlightened perspective. Liberty has a responsibility and shouldn't be given up for something even as important as the potential destruction of our environment.
How about we say, "unproven, with all evidence provided to support the argument having been shown false or suspect." If we didn't have falsified information on this subsidized by the new green "oil barons" we could actually make informed decisions.
this is comparable to al gore (also not a scientist) grabbing some AGW protester who knows nothing of the science and making them look uninformed about HIS talking points.
I can't believe people on either side of the debate get off by watching these wankers with economic and political backgrounds talk about climate change. If you want a real 'debate,' then you have to read about it in scientific journals, which only the climate scientists do. I promise you that gore/monckton have not.
The Bible has no bearing on this issue. It's a divine book about saving your eternal soul, not an instruction manual for how best to manage the Earth. God gave man free will and dominion over the Earth. Whether or not we get conned into thinking man made global warming is true or not is not particularly addressed other than "do not be deceived."
domination over the earth? i dont like the sound of that that sounds like what got us into the mess of cutting down the rain forest and polluting everything with our trash ect :P I know the global warming thing is a scam because they dont Really want to help people thats why they arent concentrating on the Real issues.
Actually of all the sources you can read scientific publications are undoubtedly the only thing you may be able to trust. Because any scientist that publishes a theory that can be disproven commits career suicide. So they must choose between their career and publishing incorrect things.
That high pressure to be correct is not found in any other source. That is why the theories accepted by the majority of the scientific community are always the only thing to trust.
I think this woman should be congratulated for at least listening, most left wing climate/global warming believers would have screamed Lord Monckton down and not allow him to tell the facts. I felt a little sorry for her actually, she seems quite intelligent but fooled by left wing bastards.
I should add Goldman Sachs is involved in the collapse of Greece. Dont let this happen in the UK, resist the EU because this is whats in the agenda for you guys and indeed the world. This is not a conspiracy theory, Google, Inside the great American bubble machine. The funny thing is the more answers you find the questions it raises. Its a huge trail, but the main point is, these people/socialist are not on our side, since they want to "depopulate" the world by 90% Google depopulation.
The problem is that if that poor lady starts to do some research, she will be shunted by anybody who's an environwhacko, and if she goes back to them without any research, she will be reinforced as one of them, and, after all, just like any good western liberal, the modern environmentalist believes that it is themselves who are the utmost good of humanity.
Christopher Walter Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley (born 14 February 1952) is a British business consultant, policy adviser, writer, columnist, puzzle inventor and hereditary peer.
Poor lady. I wish there was a highly experienced scientist there to question Lord Monckton. Not that I am a global warming fanatic but I think that true or not we need to advance our energy technology because I'm tired of noisy, smelly, smoggy, dirty, explosion based propulsion systems and power plants. Clean energy is the way to go even if it means going with a completely new campaign rather than global warming.
Monckton takes the data from the satellites, and then lies about the data.
ndrthrdr1 1 month ago
Monckton keeps fleecing gullible climate change denial nuts with his pseudoscience at paid speaking engagements, and the polar ice melt rate continues to accelerate.
ndrthrdr1 1 month ago
On saying that, there has to be negative ramifications to our earth as we pull it's ingredients from the ground in mass abundance & destroy whole rainforests in record timeframes to use in shitty oils in food that shouldn't be used anyway. Just like any living form like humans, donkeys, cows, etc, etc, the Earth (although waaaay for resiliant than any beast) has to have a breaking point, like if you keep removing the blood or internal organs of a human, they will eventually die. Same with Earth.
AdolphFitler 2 months ago
Oh brother. Poor Lord is going in circles with this brainwashed asshat. And waterforpeople.....how was he picking on this "poor lone" women, he was not rude, he was not trying to push his views on her, he was simply asking who, why & where she was getting her information from... and was informing her where she could go to get the other side of the story...You can tell us about some other scientist debunking him, so what, it's just another 1 on the affirmative with his own cherry picked data.
AdolphFitler 2 months ago
20 - 30 years from now everybody will claim they were not fooled. When everyone gives me the shame,shame finger move, when I diagree with the mouth foaming gloabal warming fanatics.
jokers1966 6 months ago
Weather they prove or disprove global warming does not matter at all. What matters is that people use more renewable energy because the planets resources wont last forever. Also there is nothing wrong with people using more solar and wind power.
What does anyone get out of fighting against the belief in global warming? hmmm
iron13man 8 months ago
@iron13man the problem is not that they wish to use solar and wind power, it's that they wish to force us to use solar and wind power without first proving that it's a necessary, financially viable option for replacing fossil fuels. I completely agree that if they were to go into the woods and live in a small solar cabin (something I intend to do) there would be no problem, and it would help in conserving fossil fuels. live and let live. liberty or death.
slshaw1234 7 months ago
@slshaw1234 No one can force us to use solar and wind power. It's too expensive an initial investment for many. If they prove we do or do not need it wont matter. What matters is weather an individual wants to get solar and wind now and save money later or use public power. These debates are silly because neither side has complete information and yet they argue. The truth is probably that they are both correct to some degree. Yet they act as if the world is black and white. Nice reframe.
iron13man 7 months ago
@iron13man the only thing i disagree with you on is when you say no one can force us to use solar and wind power. they cannot actually force us to purchase them now but the legislation that they intend to pass into law would make it impossible to get anything other than what is deemed "green" by a board appointed and paid by the people passing the legislation. they've already started this process in making it impossible for us to utilize our own fossil fuels by "demagoguing" fossil fuels.
slshaw1234 7 months ago
@slshaw1234 We had all better hurry and purchase our windmills and solar panels now then before they start this regulation. These people are so silly. Wouldn't you agree?
iron13man 7 months ago
Check out the You Tuibe videos here showing Dr. Abraham debunking him point by point. Monckton uses cherrypicked data to present a false picture. He has been roundly debunked, and even tried to silence Dr.Abraham because of the truth being told. And people wonder why no one will debate him? He is irrelevant, that's why.
waterforpeople 8 months ago
What a phony coward. He's reduced to picking on a woman who isn't even a scientist.That's the only way he looks semi intelligent spewing his garbage. Let's see him go up against a real climate scientist. Oh, but he won't because Dr. John Abraham already debunked his phony crayon graphs and cherrypicked data. What a waste of film this is.
waterforpeople 8 months ago
Who is this Lord guy? I like him!
krirp 9 months ago
I have a life and a job! I don't have time to check the facts; I only have time to stand outside a building with a sign for extended periods of time based on an assumption about those facts I have no time to check.
Hesperell 1 year ago
She was a pushover.
Bring on Gore.
TheHepworth 1 year ago
@TheHepworth
Al Gore WONT debate him.
Gore keeps running from Lord Munckton.
fmscribs 8 months ago
"I have faith in organization" she said...
That says all about common people and theor mind, THEY never doubt or check data themself only pretend they know its global warming and that is it...
So stupid people , sad to see they end up in greempeace... worthless organization
supremeboy 1 year ago
Bravo Lord Monckton! Flowers, champagne and confetti for you!
Polishman1 1 year ago
To my understanding Lord Christopher Monckdon was the scientific advisor to Margeret Thatcher during her reign as U.Ks Prime Minister. His specialty is the subject of Global Warming and I believe he is considered to be one of most well respected advisors on the subject. He has repeatedly challenged Ale Gore to appear on international television to prove him incorrect, I believe Ale Gore hasn't taken up the challenge., I wonder why?
oinknz 1 year ago
Epic owg
quisqueyatv 1 year ago
i believe in man made global warming, it's called haarp and chemtrails, *people point and laugh* CONSPIRACY THEORIST, no...cloud seeding, operation popeye, russian woodpecker, all weather modification, any more proof? the history channel: weather warfare, controlling the weather is more devastating than a nuclear bomb, YOU CONSPIRACY THEORIST!!!
Like i said i believe in "Man made" global warming, it's called haarp, do your research, we also have warming and cooling periods, every million years
PainInDaBrain 1 year ago 2
sadly climate change, real or not, is the least of our worries. The loss of biodiversity, habitats, and water are far more pressing issues that are not being addressed accordingly.
RandomEdge 1 year ago 2
I don't have proof or facts but common sense tells me that the environment is under ever increasing pressure and something should be done to turn this around.
mikeleza 1 year ago
I tip my hat to you good sir
Erreul 1 year ago
This Mans interview is Very Very Good !
Excellent actually
Davaron2012 1 year ago
i like this video
Explodingrats93 1 year ago
It's just a weather balloon!
Bidil6 1 year ago
This woman seems to be a person who in the Middle-ages would steadfastedly believe that the world was flat, even if she would be taken on a space-ship and see the planet being round herself... Lord Monckton is so great!!!
Nekrotik666 1 year ago
that what happens when you trust papers and news to do the work for you ,please cheek what is been said to you from anyone
littlebuddha4 1 year ago
Now, that woman is probably 'well educated' and scares the crap out of me.
jbwhite2007 1 year ago
Even though she was kinda stupid in saying "we'll see" if she finds his statements true, she was an awful good sport about his persistance.
jillbert40 1 year ago
Mr. Monckton is right about Global Warming being a bog-gas propaganda skeem but there are some things that he may not know as well as the woman, but very interesting conversation they had...
unlistedoo7 1 year ago
Lord Monckton is such an idiot. He can talk well but doesn't know his shit. All he does is old rethorical tricks. I can do them too. Cheap shot imo. All he has are well prepared lies to confuse people.
Actually you could do the exact same rethorical game against you guys with the same result. He still offers no proof whatsoever. And the university of illinois is by far not the hub of climate research.
He just claims his sources are all correct and hers are all false. No proof at all.
Samurailord 1 year ago
@Samurailord He has done several long presentations dealing with, in excruciating detail, the fallacies of the hockey stick graph etc. as well as pointing out the plethora of data omitted by the IPCC as well as inarguably fudged data. Go watch them. Do you even know even know what the linear regression trend is? It's easy to see you have bought into climate dogma.
itachi705 1 year ago
So you think it's easy to see? Funny words from a blind man.
Yes, i understand what linear regression trend is. If you understand the math behind it and the climate properties it should describe you also understand why it is not a valid way to get data that has scientific value.
And please dont use words like "inarguably". Just because you watched some videos and maybe read a little on wikipedia you think you understand such a complex phenomenon like the global climate? Pretty please..
Samurailord 1 year ago
@Samurailord Thank you for demonstrating your unwavering stupidity.
My "inarguably" statement was regarding the data from the IPCC. It is a fact, no matter how much you kick and scream like the little bitch you are.
itachi705 1 year ago
@Samurailord "He just claims his sources are all correct and hers are all false. No proof at all. "
You've had two days to thin about this so why don't you show where he is giving false information.
IOW play the ball not the man.
OvoidCranium 1 year ago
He told her "not to believe him or anyone else" but to instead look at the evidence for herself. I, for one, have read a lot on this subject and easily find that the effect man has had on the global temperatures is minimal, that man is creating far worse damage in other areas than this CO2 lie and we are wasting our efforts to solve a non-problem instead of the real ones.
Want sources? Look at the sources in the book "What happened to the American Dream."
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
@ OvoidCranium
500 letters is nowhere near enough to really explain to you why he is full of shit. Instead you could show where he is right. In that case you wont need 500 letters.
@ NativeNewMexican
Those "sources" in that book are not of scientific value. The whole scientific community worldwide agrees on climate change facts. If there really were ANY sources that are more than lies of scared people and lobbys dont you think the intellectual elite would know about it?
Samurailord 1 year ago
The sources in that book are invalid because you say so? The whole scientific community? You're so high on your self righteousness you have no idea what truth is. The FACT is that the WHOLE scientific community doesn't agree on this at ALL!
The founder of the weather channel is suing Gore for fraud. Thirty thousand scientists and more disagree with your "WHOLE" scientific community.
You have no proof and no evidence that has not been debunked. You say MY sources have no scientific value. lol
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
Ever think that MAYBE, just MAYBE those that get paid when they FIND a problem but don't get paid when they DON'T FIND a problem would have some sort of incentive to misrepresent, to overlook, to skew and even fabricate?
I'm sure you didn't even look at the sources I cited. I'm just as sure that you completely overlook every other source that goes counter to your "enlightened" view just like the "elite" that you worship.
You're a poster child for the claim that Climate Change is a Religion.
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago 2
@NativeNewMexican
No they are invalid because science has shown otherwise. You might not be familiar how "scientific" proof is exactly defiend. But in simple terms it means that you are wrong and they are right because the can back up their claims and you can not.
Nothing you say changes that. Not even your 30k scientists that oppose global warming. Because i can call 30k people on the street "scientists" too. The point is that the leading scientists all agree. So stop lying to your self.
Samurailord 1 year ago
Science has shown otherwise? Where? I am familiar with the scientific method and the FACT is you have provided NO EVIDENCE during this debate. Back up your claims.
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
@NativeNewMexican CAPS don't make your wishes come true. You might be familiar with the method but definately not with the research in the field. Go get educated and read all the publications. There: I backed up my claims. The evidence is there. Lots of it. Unchanllenged evidence by the way. No one of you "30k scientists" has found anything to challenge it. I can not read and learn for you tough. This is something you can only do yourself. Do it and wake up or stay scared in denial.
Samurailord 1 year ago
Your evidence is "all the publications"? Unchallenged evidence? I've given you a source that challenges your claim, you haven't cited where it is wrong. Lord Monckton has cited sources that you haven't proven wrong. You have provided absolutely no evidence to support your claim, give me one of these publications to look at.
BTW I didn't reference the 30k scientist thing because very few of the scientists in it were climatologists or in related fields.
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
Your quote, "He just claims his sources are all correct and hers are all false. No proof at all. " applies to your own statements.
How could you be so insightful about Monckton's chicanery and so blind to the same from yourself and the other believers in the overblown belief in man made global warming.
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
I noticed that Samurai hasn't responded to this at all, he just keeps claiming his sources are correct and that the others are false. He has no proof at all either.
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
@NativeNewMexican You just dont get how this works. Except for a little minority of scared denialists (you) the whole world and scientific community agrees that there IS global warming.
If you want to challenge that theory YOU need to come up with new research and evidence. You can not challenge thousands of manhours of research with nothing in hands.
Until this day noone has ever been able to deliver any counterevidence that could stand up against global warming. It is all easy to debunk :)
Samurailord 1 year ago
@Samurailord No, YOU just don't get how it works. If you make an assertion, you have to prove it. YOU and others have made assertions that man is causing global warming. YOU have claimed that there is evidence and thousands that prove it is so. If the evidence is so prevailing, provide ONE, just ONE source and I will provide evidence that it's chicanery, manipulated data, or proven false.
You can't even come up with one?
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
@NativeNewMexican Yes. And global warming has been prooven to a very large extent. This is why it is the worldwide accepted theory and there are no publications that say otherwise that were able to withstand the scientific critisism. No need to provide ONE, as there are already a lot more provided. For years now. As i said: You need to go get educated and stop commenting topics you dont understand. IF you can provide counter evidence as you claim.. DO IT. The nobel price will be yours.
Samurailord 1 year ago
@Samurailord "No need to provide ONE, as there are already a lot more provided" well, could you point to ANY of them? All you do is call people names, "get educated" and "you don't understand" instead of actually debating. I DID provide counter evidence. You have yet to debunk it.
Again, it is NOT a worldwide accepted theory, you saying it is doesn't make it so. Even if it WAS worldwide accepted theory, it was worldwide accepted fact that the earth was flat once.
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
@NativeNewMexican I am looking forward to read your papers once they are beeing published. Please send me a message once you can provide anything.
Until then.. i have made my point and you offered nothing worth of discussion in return. This is why this will be my last comment, as i have better things to do with my time.
Samurailord 1 year ago
@Samurailord Ok, let me recap. Your point is: "He just claims his sources are all correct and hers are all false. No proof at all." and you provide no proof. You ask for me to cite sources, which I did: "What happened to the American Dream" and others, and you provided no counterargument.
You exemplified your own statement as promised when you said, "All he does is old rethorical tricks. I can do them too. "
Congratulations, well done.
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago 3
Pray for global warming.
kodachromefilm 1 year ago
GO MONCKTON GO! KICK ASS!
ihatechemtrails 2 years ago
bunch of iiots ther is a global warming .
sadiquebob 2 years ago
I love how that idiot woman just accepts the ideas that global warming-change-whatever advocates claim, without reading any of the facts herself, then she tells Monckton that to agree with his researched facts, she would have to look them up herself.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago 6
Whenever you're ready, though, you can contribute to your own beliefs by giving up your computer, instead of demanding that everyone around you lives to your liking. So give up your ol' pollutin' computer and get outside, wiping your ass with leaves and never fighting off even basic illness! Sounds like a harmonious and beautiful existence..
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
700+ Prominent Scientists Now Refute Global Warming - FOX8 Blog post, community.fox8(dot)com_...Refute-Global-Warming/.../92757.html
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
EPA Suppresses It's Own Report Refuting Global Warming
sectalk(dot)com
Global Warming Claims Refuted
aim(dot)org
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
Scientists Continue to Debunk Consensus in 2008
social.moldova(dot)org
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
God what a rant. But Jesus Christ people, you got to get out of this mindset of "I'm right no matter what fact or inconvenience dictates." Sure, we need to check our waste. No, we don't need to attack business and civilians to do so. No, we don't need to go backwards in global development in order to "save" some lonely bear. We don't need idiots littering all the time, sure, but we don't need religious fanatic earth-loving neo-pagans protesting on their "green" personal computer.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
The same innocent earth-loving gaia-loving girl who was willing to distort truth to sway others to her beliefs is part of something bigger: the human ability to lie, to blind one's self and others, to deceive. This makes somebody dangerous. One who skips one boundary to achieve their agenda will skip another. So, okay, there's no factual proof that this girl needed to see to back up her views, so what's next? You don't need votes to back up the leaders she wants?
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
And now we come to an interesting point: the girl who has so wittily removed herself from association with any traditional set of values, such as Christianity or Judaism or Islam, the girl who has proclaimed herself to be "modern," has made a full turn-around and entered right back into the mindset of ancient superstitious folk, refusing to change their beliefs in the face of anything, even fact, even reality. So that is therefore a religion. But there is something else.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
I remember some young girl youtube user who posted a video making many baseless claims, including, I kid you not, that "2/3rds of Antarctica have melted," which was a misconception of another statement made in a flawed "report" by an environmentalist-motivated unilateral activist group- not the scientific community. But what did this girl say? That she was ultimately right because, after all, she was just trying to spread the message that it is important to pay a carbon tax or whatever the hell.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
Funny thing about these modern, non-traditional environmentalists is this: at some point the past we saw both man and his created superstitions and religions exist together. Nowadays we can point to those beliefs as childish, primitive, backwards, and completely human. So, we named those belief systems, with names that are now old and unrecognized, and shunted them. Only many years later, we return to the same thought processes, only with a new name: environmentalism.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
You can't argue with the environmentalists in fact, because when they depart from logic you will run into these problems: Environmentalists believe it's okay to be half-wrong or worse with all of their facts, since they will tell you it is merely ultimately about them caring about the world- suggesting new taxes on massive populations as a solution. These people are a religion, and why is that? Because they exercise "faith," they will not be argued against with fact or reason.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
Stupid question. Similarly, people have been dying for hundreds of thousands of years--why be against it now?
bocanutz 2 years ago
"Stupid question. Similarly, people have been dying for hundreds of years- why be against it now?"
So if climate change has indeed been going on longer than man could possibly have caused, you are saying that it is still important to halt it, even if it is a totally natural and non-man-made phenomenon? So we must save ourselves by...interfering completely in every aspect of humanity's existence, including our 'environment' (your total surroundings), to stop ourselves from destroying all of it?
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
Look I'm not in the mood to write as much as you did. 1. what makes you an expert and not just a semi-informed skeptic. 2. temps have risen DRAMATICALLY in the last couple decades matching up almost exactly with our carbon output. 3. Sure natural processes are happening but it doesn't mean humans have no effect whatsoever. 4. Our energy consumption poisons the planet in other ways, regardless. 5. Conservatives should be against destroying the commons and protect it on our own volition.
bocanutz 2 years ago
Our energy consumption poisons the planet in 0ther ways? Please explain that.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
Yes, emissions of nanoparticulates into the air as in smog, ozone at ground (breathing) level and damage to natural habitats on land and in the ocean are very real consequences of our vast amount of energy consumption.
Also, every engine and light bulb out there is like a little heater. Most of the energy is converted directly into heat... and with all this heat being produced all the time everywhere in the world, don't you think it would have SOME effect? or does heat not warm things up?
bocanutz 2 years ago
So you're saying that some pollution created by man, even if it's not anywhere near what people imagine, must be handled in the exact same way as global warming? Right, I never labeled you anything, I don't know you. Half of those comments weren't directed at you, you just started talking due to your self importance. So here you are, shown that global warming is a swindle, and you have exhibited your "faith" by ignoring fact and citing none while continuing to persist in delusion. Religion.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
whoa man, let's not drag religion into this. unless you are referring to the religion of eco-nuts.
sutterbean1 2 years ago
That's the exact religion I've been talking about. The mindset of people who support the ideas of "climate" scientists and/or activist groups exhibit all the same characteristics of somebody who's practicing a particular religion.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
you obviousely have no idea about the terms "science" and "religion". The two are totaly different in the way that religion is based on believe and science is based on proof.
That is why global warming is a scientific theory and all other crap is not. Because global warming is supported by a lot of research while all the "oh its only a scam" idiots worldwide never published ANYTHING that could hold up against scientific analysis. Now why do you think that is?
Samurailord 1 year ago
A 'lot of research'? This 'research' has yet uncovered the reason why the inexorable rise in temperature has been halted in the past 10 years, and the temperature has, in fact, dropped by .5 deg. Celsius in that period.
jbwhite2007 1 year ago
Oh boy, too much heat from small things around the world is warming the planet? Look that up online for reinforcement, buddy.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
Conservatives should be against destroying the commons? What does that statement even mean? Is global warming, the gigantic lie, a black and white left-vs-right issue with you? Obviously it's loudest supporters are leftist, but to you that means the righties want you dead? They want the common man killed by his own environment? Makes a lot of sense, after all, all conservatives do is ground themselves in traditional moral beliefs and cultural values.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
Dude. Calm the fuck down and read a book. I am anything but the leftist you accuse me to be because you seem to think that anyone who defends the environment in any way is a leftists. How's that for black and white? You are an embarrassment and you would hurt the leftists more by shutting up. Thanks.
bocanutz 2 years ago
I don't care about YOU, I don't care what you think of yourself as, I don't care to hear you tell me to shut up as an end to your agument. Why do you even initiate dialogue in order to tell me to shut up? I am am embarrassment? How so? Because I list sources to the reports I reference in relation to global climate? Or because I mentioned that there is a large leftist sympathy for Al Gore's new religion? And whatever YOU are, I don't care, but please stop showing your unwarranted self importance.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
Typing several small comments on a keyboard that has saved one from having to manually write a single thing is what you call not being calm? So what is "calm"? To use single, generally stupid sentences, with a minimalist inattention paid to things such as logic or courtesy?
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
Assuming you are saying that we need to halt "climate change" (no longer global warming) even if it is a natural process, then let's look at this: you must then believe that the earth has so radically been changed by the common person as well as the private sector. So, your logical belief is that the only entity that can offer you "salvation" is the government, something consistently shown to be deadly. Kind of like a religion, kind of like a leftist. All in one.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
Also, don't label me anything. You don't know me. I never said the gov't should take control. You did. It's up to us to want to protect our planet--not to ask the government to make others protect it. So don't give up responsibility just because leftists make a big deal about it.
bocanutz 2 years ago
Despite your baseless assumptions of human "damage", I must say that this is an enlightened perspective. Liberty has a responsibility and shouldn't be given up for something even as important as the potential destruction of our environment.
Live Free or Die.
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
My assumptions aren't baseless but thank you for understanding my point :)
bocanutz 1 year ago
How about we say, "unproven, with all evidence provided to support the argument having been shown false or suspect." If we didn't have falsified information on this subsidized by the new green "oil barons" we could actually make informed decisions.
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
I think we're throwing the baby out with the bathwater on this one.
bocanutz 1 year ago
Do you have any credible evidence to support climate change is man made?
I have credible evidence that the changes in Earth's temperatures are fluctuating in parity with the temperatures on Mars and Venus.
Will me buying a Prius do anything to help? No, in fact, it may hurt.
What are you suggesting each person do other than feel guilt or worry about how they're hurting the planet?
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
nice, they are on other planets...
panzer903 2 years ago
are you going to defend that or just claim it?
willisonwx 2 years ago
this is comparable to al gore (also not a scientist) grabbing some AGW protester who knows nothing of the science and making them look uninformed about HIS talking points.
I can't believe people on either side of the debate get off by watching these wankers with economic and political backgrounds talk about climate change. If you want a real 'debate,' then you have to read about it in scientific journals, which only the climate scientists do. I promise you that gore/monckton have not.
willisonwx 2 years ago
Scientific journals? How about Bible? :) How can you be so naive! They are all corrupted by the certain political interests.
jaska05 2 years ago
The Bible has no bearing on this issue. It's a divine book about saving your eternal soul, not an instruction manual for how best to manage the Earth. God gave man free will and dominion over the Earth. Whether or not we get conned into thinking man made global warming is true or not is not particularly addressed other than "do not be deceived."
NativeNewMexican 1 year ago
domination over the earth? i dont like the sound of that that sounds like what got us into the mess of cutting down the rain forest and polluting everything with our trash ect :P I know the global warming thing is a scam because they dont Really want to help people thats why they arent concentrating on the Real issues.
Devlin3151 1 year ago
Actually of all the sources you can read scientific publications are undoubtedly the only thing you may be able to trust. Because any scientist that publishes a theory that can be disproven commits career suicide. So they must choose between their career and publishing incorrect things.
That high pressure to be correct is not found in any other source. That is why the theories accepted by the majority of the scientific community are always the only thing to trust.
Samurailord 1 year ago
I think this woman should be congratulated for at least listening, most left wing climate/global warming believers would have screamed Lord Monckton down and not allow him to tell the facts. I felt a little sorry for her actually, she seems quite intelligent but fooled by left wing bastards.
Hopefully she has done more research.
toranacar 2 years ago 2
@toranacar: So true, I feel people are eager to hear the truth, yet so many are not:(
88arau 2 years ago
Yes its become blind faith.
Some people just wont allow them selves to listen and think. Just look at the other side of the coin.
And others know its bull shit but have a quid to make out of it. Such as Goldman Sachs bankers and similar.
toranacar 2 years ago
I should add Goldman Sachs is involved in the collapse of Greece. Dont let this happen in the UK, resist the EU because this is whats in the agenda for you guys and indeed the world. This is not a conspiracy theory, Google, Inside the great American bubble machine. The funny thing is the more answers you find the questions it raises. Its a huge trail, but the main point is, these people/socialist are not on our side, since they want to "depopulate" the world by 90% Google depopulation.
toranacar 2 years ago
The problem is that if that poor lady starts to do some research, she will be shunted by anybody who's an environwhacko, and if she goes back to them without any research, she will be reinforced as one of them, and, after all, just like any good western liberal, the modern environmentalist believes that it is themselves who are the utmost good of humanity.
Tripo1iSamson 2 years ago
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darkwingstar 2 years ago
Baaa, baa
stuanemma 2 years ago
Lord Monkton owns the warmers all day long.
gworksnell 2 years ago 3
Fighting innuendo with facts. who would have thought?
MSSC73 2 years ago 2
were fighting the new world order and there fighting climate change
its going to be a crazy few years
pinball281 2 years ago
Christopher Walter Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley (born 14 February 1952) is a British business consultant, policy adviser, writer, columnist, puzzle inventor and hereditary peer.
cypress1337 2 years ago 2
Hmmz, not very credible.. Was this a puzzle of his maybe..
cypress1337 2 years ago
@cypress1337 How so?
88arau 2 years ago
Even calmly presented *facts* seem unable to make the brainwashed activists see sense.
Baaaa !
z1zaz 2 years ago 13
this woman is clearly a fool lol
sulliy86 2 years ago 13
@sulliy86 I'm going to take the softer approach and say she's a poor, duped. woman. You gotta feel sorry for them, lol.
rachybaby72 1 year ago
ahahah ''I have read it'' lol stupid
donatshabani 2 years ago
LOL....
sfmain 2 years ago
Jolly good show Lord Monckton!
mrgoodvibrations 2 years ago 3
I know this woman felt like a total wreck there. :) She should go straight to the doctor and have his shoe removed from her ass!
chop98 2 years ago 4
Poor lady. I wish there was a highly experienced scientist there to question Lord Monckton. Not that I am a global warming fanatic but I think that true or not we need to advance our energy technology because I'm tired of noisy, smelly, smoggy, dirty, explosion based propulsion systems and power plants. Clean energy is the way to go even if it means going with a completely new campaign rather than global warming.
trance183 2 years ago
shes not norwegian shes german
drdo1988 2 years ago
@ drdo1988:
I think the fact that she says "I'm from Norway" at 02.21, kinda proves that she's Norwegian.
HereAreThingsIveSeen 2 years ago
Great video. Food for debate!!
luvthemgirls 2 years ago 3
good example of how scary and brainwashed these ppl are
Wakeupsleepyhead1984 2 years ago 10
Christopher Monckton is a True Blessing, many like him popping up all over the world. Seems everyone is waking up all of a sudden.
Peace
cosmicmind1 2 years ago 5