SBS - British Embassy, Kuwait - www.eliteukforces.info

[harrybyles1996]

the sbs operate on land as much as the sas. but are a more amphibious related. they go through sas selection and the have to go on to do sbs selection. they do all that the sas do including halo and haho jumps/wet jumping, sea and land operations

[cdo29mike]

@leonwiganer As for professionalism sbs did shoot up the place but for what the building had already been cleared by regular British army that was just unprofessional destruction. Highly shined boots I don’t know, when I was in we had to have brush shined boots only. Normally that type of thing comes from the commanding officer.

[cdo29mike]

@leonwiganer From 0:00 to 0:08 slow no but under control properly spaced on top of the embassy yes that’s 148 Commando Bty RA. From 0:09 until the end badly spaced nearly fast roping on top of each other yes that was sbs rm and others, fast roping into the court yard and side buildings not the embassy building.

[cdo29mike]

@leonwiganer Just to fast rope on to a building that has already been cleared for a publicity stunt doesn’t take Rambo my 6 year old son could do it and with a little training I am sure j coy rm could ; )

[cdo29mike]

@leonwiganer Well j coy rm, 148 Bty and you can say 29 commando in general are trained slightly different to normal RA solders, Plus you have to remember` you’ are basically infantry RA are trained and can do your job better and their own which includes air, sea and artillery support, reconnaissance, observation posts and far far more.

[lakeslad29]

look guys apart from an Author who wants to sell books, listen to the guys who where either there or who had lads on the op(that i know) no conspiracy no fake bollocks only what we know or saw as commandos in Iraq,we do not claim publicity for op`s that are are not ours, but ask that if you comment on one of our op`s you know what you are talking about before you do, and dont listen to people who want to sell books..

[lakeslad29]

look at the posts mate, the building was already taken and secured,it was a PR stunt,and believe me, good enough for 3 commando brigade good enough for sas, i suggest you talk to people down at poole if you ever get down that way...out



[lakeslad29]

@lakeslad29 not only that one of the lads from my reg was sas rsm.(JD)

. maybe we should ask him?, you guys are digging deeper than you can go, leave it to people in the know.

[lakeslad29]

@leonwiganer i have proof, my mate was roping in, was yours?

[EllisFitz1995]

I'm joining the royal marines next year!!! Can't fucking wait :) hopefully one day I'll make it SBS/SAS one day :))

[joh1722]

my mates brother was on this job,they shot the place to bits because the doors may have been booby trapped.he always knew how to enjoy himself....

[hagartheorrible]

This is indded the SBS, along as well were a four Naval Gunfire team from 148 Cdo FO Bty RA who supported the SBS during the war but only were involved in this one operation. The guys from the CH-47 are the SBS lads, there were two Sea Kings involved which dropped 2 protection teams into over watch positions on nearby blocks of flats. This is where 148 Bty went along with 2 American FAC's. The doors were blown off in the embassy only for it to be found out after that the caretaker was outside

[SWINGSING13]

Can you believe that after these brave lads arrived by rope and made the area safe that some little TW*T then had a moan about the damage done to the wooden carved very expensive doors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The SBS are simply the best this great country has to offer the SF world.

[BASHERBAKER69]

what does eliteukforces think about SEALs?..very fit and muscley but do their abilities match their own high opinion of themselves?

[BASHERBAKER69]

what does eliteukforces think about SEALs?..i know a few retired RM commandos and the feeling is that they are very fit and muscley, rate themselves very highly, but the jury is out as to their abilities.

[tovarishchump]

Some people are fucking gay

[chelzparenno]

go,go osama!

[jammyk87]

f company RM are aswell mate

[TheHardGainer]

Special forces:

Special air service (SAS)

Special boat service (SBS)

Elite forces:

The parachute regiment

Royal marines commandoes

and many, many more.

[lukemidson]

the Special reconnaissance regiment (SRR) is also a special force

[letmeusethisnamenow]

@lukemidson Yeah but so's the Raf Regiment. Well, It's SFSG. Load of bollocks if you ask me

[1MuFfiNz1]

you missed out the SIS, special inteligence service

[DigbyWeapon]

This would be around Desert Storm time.

[keirfree]

colinmain U sound like a 3rd Snakeseller trying to offload the attributes of the Para s dont,,,,, what u type is Shallow what the Para s do is phenomenal, leave it out Bro

[UKParachuteRegiment]

Thats the SAS in Baghdad

[Gazz6666]

yeah theres a SRR

but there not part of the paras

(:

[FuZeD00]

ok i read the vid info... doh!

[FuZeD00]

Anyone know why thay seem to be in kawait of all places??!

[acidcasual07]

in the gulf war saddam invaded kuwait and then the coalition forces liberated it. Kuwait now is where a lot of troops are based. Units which work on the main suppy routes.

[cdwordsworth26]

what dont you think the SBS wear desert fatigues? there was a change announced a while ago when it was claimed they would be no longer the poor cousin of the SAS.Thats when their badge changed from the frog to the dagger,and their motto changed too.The SRR was formed from what was called 14int that was used in Northern Ireland.1 para formed the backbone of the SFSG.I think SBS still recruit exclusively from the marines but no longer just do a tour before going back.

[halfglassed]

since the move to UKSF, SBS [and SAS, SFSG, and SRR] recruit from all branches of the UK forces, ie, flyboys, army, navy and RMs.

[sgtbenadair]

good call. absolutley correct. i never knew SRR was what used to be 14 int, makes sense now you mention it. somebody in a comment below mentioned SBS being a branch of the SAS. this is incorrect. SBS are usually pulled from the Marines. to become SBS you need to pass SAS selection then pass further courses in diving swimming and other water based specialities. i think it is still true that even though you have to surpass the SAS standard you still get paid less as a member of the SBS

[halfglassed]

as far as pay goes, both SBS and SAS have the say rank/pay structure. the move to UKSF has seen a lot of motions passed that put the different units on equal standing [including budget as determined by manpower, and salaries].

[00000Dean00000]

SBS pass the same initial SAS selection. But then the SAS move on to Jungle training and the SBS move on to diving and beach insertions. They do not surpass the SAS - they just move on to a different area of training.

[hititandquitit69]

SBS in Desert fatigues.Hmm... interesting...

[rudeydudey05]

I always thought that the SBS where the SAS (Boat Troop), i had no idea that the SBS where a special forces squad from the Royal Marines. Spose they are all SAS trained or have to pass SAS selection to get into any UK Special forces.

Does anyone know if the Paras have a special forces unit? Someone told me it was called (SRR) Special Reconnaissance Regiment.

I always thought it was 1st Battalion Parachute Regiment.

[00000Dean00000]

1PARA is part of the Special forces support group - and the paras have the pathfinders.

[robkedar]

the SRR is different, recently they've been used in Britain to ID terror suspects.

[Azog150]

"Does anyone know if the Paras have a special forces unit? Someone told me it was called (SRR) Special Reconnaissance Regiment.

I always thought it was 1st Battalion Parachute Regiment. "

They don't have one specifically. However, a lot of SAS members come from the Paras.

Also, the SBS isn't exclusive to Marines, however, I think about 90% of their members come from them.

[halfglassed]

pathfinder platoon's about the closest you'll find to a purely maroon machine SF unit. SFSG [administered under UKSF] is kind of Para, but equally, kind of not. Tough one to describe really.

[SilvaG17]

pathfinders arent purely maroon machine anymore

[AugustinWGWarner]

SRS are an Independent part of the UKSF along with the SAS, the SBS and the SFSG of which 1 para make up the majority

[chavez924]

the paras have the pathfinder platoon and the sbs is the royal navy's elite sister unit to the sas

[hugheyb]

The paras special forces is technically the Pathfinders.

[colinmain]

The paras ARE special forces. They are generally used more strategically than tactically though, and because of the "elite" view taken of the SAS, the paras tend to be seen as regular troops.

They would give most countries' "elite" forces a good kicking if it came down to it. They fough a mixture of constripts and so-called "elite" forces in the Falklands and did far more than could be expected of most fighting forces.

[Azog150]

I have always considered them elite (Which is why I want to join them), however, I have never considered them special forces.

In what way would you describe them as special forces?

[colinmain]

They are not regular infantry but have a special role (well, dozens of special roles might be more accurate). In traditional terms, this includes covert insertion behind enemy lines to sabotage and cause chaos and fear.

If you are serious about applying, best of luck to you, seriously. Their selection process will make you realise that they are pretty special guys.

[DougMcClure1981]

rubbish, we are just highly trained infantry.

[colinmain]

Oh, whatever.

[585752]

Paras are not special forces they are elite along with Royal Marines, where as SAS and SBS are special forces. Special forces are far better than elite by the way.

[imsoboard123]

Paras are officially an elite force. To be a British special force unit you have to pass th UKSF selection course.

[bannanahomie]

u call urself a marine? looks like u dont know much about the SBS

[NeilsShoe]

The SBS believe it or not can also ride in helicopters and walk on land they have special legs that enable them to move around on land. These guys though could be anyone they could be marines or paras who knows.

[alanadm123]

sas= land and air....sbs= water

[mooney13]

no. The SAS are land sea and air. SBS specialize in amphibous assualt, sneaking into enemy harbours and sabotaging ships etc. They do however still operate on land.

[alanadm123]

Yes

[FreeRideAddikt]

@mooney13 actually i think that the SAS do only Land and Air , but its the SBS that take care of waterborn ops...i think ^^

[preaacstal]

@FreeRideAddikt freeride. both the SBS and SAS do air, sea and land. obviously, special air service 'specialise' in Air ops, and the SBS in seabourne ops. 1: inland hostage situation = SAS. 2: ship or rig hostage situation = SBS. Somewhere like the jungle or the desert, most recently afghanistan, both are employed. There would be no point not fully utilising all your special forces units with total flexibility, especially seeing as the units are so small.

[FreeRideAddikt]

@preaacstal LOL OK MATE ^^ i knew that but i just wasn't sure about the AIR sea land thing lol but thx though :)

[Elitepoosniff]

@mooney13 The SAS do everything from Sea, land and Air, the SAS specialize in Anti terror and Air to ground assault, the SBS specialize in Sea based operations but also have an sir unit like the SAS, there very close but the SAS are more known, the SBS are unknown and are more secret and less talked about.

[winstonblack99]

these guys are sbs,period even thoguh at the timem much of the media stated sas, mainly due to the renowned special boat services shadow behaviour and majority of people never hearing of the infamous frogmen.

[bytio]

All, I can again assure you they were the SBS, i was there for the briefing with them, and new most of them from previous ops. i then briefed them on the chinook side of it, after dropping them off on the Emabassy we returned to Kuwait, picked up the British Embassador and landed outside the Embassy then he went in to open up. They do not do only sea based ops, they were involved with many more land based ops in gulf war 1, i know because i dropped them off.

[feltrevoltpro]

Craig00000000001 are you an Retard or something, there is more than one embassy, in fact there are hundreds in each country. The SAS raid was in Princes Gate Road in London. Not Kuwait and the SBS are a special force hence the reason they drop from helicopters, arrive in landrovers and they also drive boats but not all the time.

[ROKACROC]

agai chapter 25...

[Craig00000000001]

bytio you talk shite and y do it!?!

[Craig00000000001]

stfu SBS LooooooL! twas SAS who stormed Embassy, i dont see no boats LMFAO!

[lakeslad29]

these guys are the chosen unit by the sas to help co ordinate and bring in fire from naval,arty and air strikes, any conflict going on that requiers specialist fire control i.e fac,foo, then 148 will be there, when i got on chinooks etc with my cdo unit they never gave a toss who we were, so it is poss they hadnt a clue who they dropped in, i for one never ever talked to a dispatcher or crewman in all my time on helo,hercs etc.

[eliteukforces]

There may have been a small (1-4) party from 148 bty with the SBS on this op, but there's no doubt that the bulk of the force was SBS. 148 may have been there to call in artillery or air strikes. 148 are very good at what they do but there is no way they would be tasked with clearing the buildings, which involved the use of explosives to gain entry. It was feared that the embassy had been booby-trapped or was housing fanatical Iraqi stalwarts. You don't send spotters to deal with such a threat.

[cdo29mike]

@eliteukforces I to served in 148 commando Bty and the guys used were in fact from 148. The embassy had been cleared and the fast roping was just for public relations for the media. In relation to not letting spotters from 148 do this type of thing because they’re not trained, you need to look in to your facts a little better before making this type of comment. If there was a suspicion the embassy was booby-trapped SAS nor SBS would not have been tasked the engineers would have been!

[cdo29mike]

@eliteukforces I can give you the team they were in and their names if you want and if it’s ok with them. which is more than what bytio can do. He maybe the author of a book but authors don´t know everthing and SAS/SBS sell books 148 command don´t.

[lakeslad29]

@cdo29mike cheers mate, even when we know people roping in on this op, others always seem to know better even though they were never their, exactly what my oppo said it was a PR stunt for the media...it had already been cleared...148/29 do not sell books....



[lakeslad29]

this unit is actually 148 (Meiktila) Cdo Bty, 29 commando regt RA, i know this for a fact as one of the lads i served with was one of the lads dropping in, i remember him always laughing about the fact everone inc the press thought it was the sas or sbs, when in fact it wasnt, even the crew man involved didnt know the difference!!

[eliteukforces]

I suspect he was pulling your leg. It's not likely that artillery spotters would be chosen to clear a potentially booby-trapped embassy. They're just not trained for that sort of thing. And how likely is it that the crew of the Chinooks wouldn't know who they were transporting?

[sim0b]

As the Historic founding fathers of all special forces in which all others try to base themselves on, the SAS/SBS command shouldn't allow it's hard earned secrets to be sold away to other so called special forces of the world, friend or foe. That includes Yanks. It's not good for the British taxpayers or the men who created the SAS/SBS legends. But i suppose the M.O.D need the cash. The world has a saying for the Yanks; All the gear. No idea!

[paultheshiv]

@eliteukforces if these guys are sbs or sas the chinook involved would most certainly be 7 squadron raf and would know who was being roped in!!!

[spongebobrocker13]

@lakeslad29 wrong!!!

[lakeslad29]

@spongebobrocker13 i have proof, my mate was roping in, was yours?

[spongebobrocker13]

@lakeslad29 no my mate wasn't but my dad was

[bytio]

I am the author of the book mentioned above, and i can assure you that they were the SBS. We were based at an airfield called Al Jouf, there were RAF 7sqn chinook SF Hercules 47sqn SF SAS AND SBS.

I was in the Chinook delivering therse guys roping down onto the buildings. There were 2 chinooks of 7sqn SF and two Sea kings. There was no great danger involved, and the cameras were there.

Hope this helps

[eliteukforces]

Thanks for confirming that these were SBS. Enjoyed your book too. Cheers.

[hititandquitit69]

what's the name of your book i couldnt find it

[bytio]

Hi the book is called "Chinook" the special forces flight in war and peace

[delpeiro12]

SBS mainly recruit from the Royal Marines but also from other regular army regiments. The SAS mainly recruit from the Parachute regiment but again also from the other regiments.

[draygds]

my dad was SBS in the late 60s earley 70s

[twobellz]

All our dads were, God bless em.

tb

[shroomery11]

SBS are the sas now. sas has become the front man operation and the SBS are now the true elites. SAS are still fukin amazing but SBS has become a more specialized unit

[PHXXXXXX]

Agreed.

[heatmiser86]

Yeah and if you want to eventually go for selection for the SAS or SBS, don't join the RAF, because they don't even bother with you.

[PHXXXXXX]

Thats only half true,they get members from the RAF Regiment, but yeah, thats about it for the RAF.

[babo456]

Like many people here, i ageree it is the RM, you can tell by the uniform, the UKSF choose not to wear helmets being one obveous uniform difference.

[wesex]

It is the SBS, they choose to wear a more official uniforme rather than there sas counterparts who wear more civi like clothes.

[Tyso3]

Dunno about you but id wear my fking helmet absailing down there

[streetlips]

there is no such thing as standaed Royal Marines

[10MEN]

The roles of the Special Boat Service are predominantly but not restricted to, the littoral and riverine domains, including: Coastal reconnaissance. Covert beach reconnaissance (Hydrographic survey) in advance of amphibious assault. Covert assault route preparation in advance of amphibious assault.

Recovery or protection of ships and oil installations Maritime Counter-Terrorism

Reconnaissance and target in the deep battlespace

Assault on verified targets

Personal protection of VIPs

[TheFoodDyeGenius]

Hm. I stand corrected.

[hamsterporn]

Incorrect - They use maritime insertion techniques in order to get into theatre - which tends to be on land.

[TheFoodDyeGenius]

True but they're mainly sea based.

[TheFoodDyeGenius]

It wouldn't be SBS. SBS are the Special Boat Service. They'd be at sea. This is a land operation. Either way, it's the one of the UK's best. Go marines!

[Dannie85]

SBS do Ops on land too just like the SAS!

[billyfish996]

Although many SBS are recruited from the Marines all UK Service personnel can apply, just like the SAS, whether their successful depends on the individual and other factor (Oh sorry its a bit like Yorkie, its not for girls!)

[awg1086]

These weren't SBS, they were standard Royal Marines Commando's.

... still fucking hard as nails though!

[eliteukforces]

Do you hawe a source that refutes that it wasn't the SBS who secured the British Embassy in Kuwait, at the end of the Gulf War? (as shown in the clip)

There are several books that describe the mission:

inside the Special Boat Service by John Parker

Black Water by ex-SBS member Don Camsell

Chinook by David McMullon - who was a flight crew member on the RAF Chinook flight that flew the SBS to the Embassy.

Would be genuinely interested in seeing an alternate account. Cheers.

[snappo20]

I read another book recently, 'First Into Action' by Dunc Falconer, ex SB guy. He tells a story about a mate of his who led one of the teams into the embassy in Kuwait, and one of the embassy staff was fuming cos they blew the doors off, SOP in case they had been booby trapped. SB do lots of land based Ops, then the SAS usually get wrongly credited with the job by ill informed journalists. Sound familiar??

[yocrackagomega]

i read that this wasnt special boat service but royal marines giving the media sumin to go into a frenzy over! but ledges anyways.