@jmwwd Prolly not. Most likely a bunch of obese, geriatrics with 90s hair-poofs sitting around shoving donuts in their mouths and pouring through Jerome Corsi conspiracy theories that were discredited years ago. They'll probably say Obama lost his citizenship, or some nonsense.
Wasnt there a proposal by Orrin Hatch in 2003,for a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT allowing a foreign born citizen to run for president in order for Arnold Swarzeneggar to run? Oh thats right Arnolds white so its ok right? FUCKIN HYPOCRITES!
@mroinaz How are they hyprocrites if they want a Constitutional Amendment? Until there is such an amendment anyone not a natural US citizen cannot be President of the United States.
It's sad that our Unions have brainwashed teachers into brainwashing children into hating true Americans such as Sheriff Arpaio. He is simply trying to protect American citizens from illegal criminal invaders. What's wrong about that? There's NOTHING wrong about that, but the Unions work for the Democrats and the Democrats need illegal aliens in order to win elections. Illegals are TOOLS of the Democrats just as teachers are TOOLS of the Unions and students are TOOLS of the teachers.
@lovecraftis1 birthers dont believe anything the GOV. says so why in the hell are they asking for more prove from them? no matter what is said they will never see the turth so whats the point are they just insane people that need Meds ?
He's a just a fucking sheriff. Why didn't he investigate the rapes that occured in his county. He hates Obama because to him Obama is black . The rape victims in his town were Latinos. Rotten, racist bastard.... He;s too damm old anyway. He needs to sit his old ass down somewhere in a nursing home.
@TheMemphis87 But you, along with racist Eric Holder (head of DOJ) see nothing wrong with Black Panther members holding billy clubs standing directly in front of a polling place? There's even video and photos of that clearly illegal activity. Explain THAT one?
@jdubya0257 wrong minor v happersett was a voting case and not citizenship. There is no requirement for two citizen parents and that case didn't create a requirement. US v Wong Kim Ark decided that the citizenship of the parents does not matter.
"It was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CASE IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SOLVE THESE DOUBTS."
The Supreme Court NEVER made any ruling on parents.
@candiceevans1 Can't be beat, huh? Well, if the National Guard were to take on Arpaio's "posse", I'll bet $1,000 the posse would be wiped out REALLY fast.
@candiceevans1 Sorry but that's wrong. A sherrif has no jurisdiction outside his county. Sheriff Joe cannot compel the authorities in Hawaii to hand over anything. Joe can't stop the feds either.
Can someone tell me why the ADL says the phrase 14/88 is "hate speech"? Why is it hateful to have a human instinct to preserve and defend one's women children family and ancestral heritage?
All this crap needs to be turned around on him and his because ...he and they are " A Threat to National Security " is he a spy ? or worse ? thats what they tell us, just so they can pass new laws ect.. Throw out the whole
Arpaio's idea is ridiculous. All along, birthers have whined about the ORIGINAL birth certificate, but now Arpaio wants a "COPY". Microfiche is a COPY, not an original.
@arrrogantlyignorant There's nothing in the world that will these idiots will accept as definitive proof. All they're doing is trying to discredit Obama any way they can going into the 2012 campaign.
Although, looking at the current crop of tea-bag candidates, who can blame them? Who's the tea-bag beau this week? Gingrich?
(1). People: Do you realize that WND, Arpaio, all branches of your Government are all playing sophisms with the Birth Certificate Issue! I mean why not just read the law? See (18) comments and 16 reasons below! Obama is illegal to serve per the Constitution and Title 8! The Birth Certificate is irrelevant! Obama can’t be impeached because he’s ineligible and illegally holding the office. Both sides are in collusion to keep Obama in Office!
(2). Obama is Not a Natural Born Citizen! 1. The Constitution unequivocally states “No Person except a Natural Born Citizen”. It’s not open to interpretation. 2. The Constitution just as clearly allows for only two types of citizens, A. Natural Born or B. Naturalized. I also know that by defining one: I can also define the other, and that's common sense! Only an amendment can alter the Constitution So Court cases are completely irrelevant also!
(3). Per Article 5: The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof,
(4). Obama is illegal and a Fraud! When will Americans Wake UP?
Americans are giving away their country and their Natural Rights and Liberties and by doing so, those of others! All via the willful and unlawful actions of their own Government, to not enforce Immigration Law!
1. Both Parties put up two illegal Candidates 2008!
2. Both Candidates acquired Citizenship via USC Title 8,
I will present the truth in the following comments:
So all can witness the absurd OBOT an Media Revelations!
@theonlyhabsfan I see you're still spamming this crap on every video. Title 8 deals with nationality especially section 1401 that has to do with citizenship and not naturalization.
@theonlyhabsfan Again I'm not the one fighting reality like you are. So far you've copy and pasted the same stuff over and over to multiple videos and when confronted you run away. I've shown you multiple times all it takes to be natural born citizen is to be born in this country.
@PogueMoran - I see you and your, pals arrrogantlyignorant and GeorgiaKev are busy spreading your delusional lies in force as per usual! You lawyers can't find a real job, that's not surprising!
The biggest delusional lie being spread here is you saying that Barack Obama is a naturalized citizen.
You yourself maintain that there are only two types of citizenship, and since Obama is not a naturalized citizen, he is the other type -- natural born.
@arrrogantlyignorant - I just showed the Law! So thanks fro proving to the world who is delusional! Beavis!
Your Congress wrote the law not me. Notice the word "and", used as a function word to indicate connection or addition. Alien, Immigration, Naturalization and Collective Naturalization + Naturalized Citizen per Article 1 Sec 8, Clause 4. Authorizes Congress to rule on Naturalization! Not the Citizenship of a "Natural Born Citizen? Du-fuss!
Going back to one of my previous posts, the only one showing any delusional thinking here, is you, pretending that laws say what you want them to say, not what they actually do say.
Anyone who thinks this Arpaio nonsense is going to go anywhere is delusional as well.
@arrrogantlyignorant - Well, go back and read my posts! I don't think Joe is serious either! Because as I showed you the Law is all the proof he needs!
@arrrogantlyignorant _ Well, why don't you show me the law that states Obama is a Natural Born Citizen? I showed you Title 8 Which states he's Naturalized! Still waiting? Beavis!
"Well, why don't you show me the law that states Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?"
I don't need to.
You wrote:
"The Constitution just as clearly allows for only two types of citizens, A. Natural Born or B. Naturalized"
By your own admission there are only TWO types of citizenship. For the 4th time now, since Obama is not a naturalized citizen, he can only be the other type -- natural born.
@theonlyhabsfan No you didn't you showed your misunderstanding of the law. You're confusing Nationality with naturalization. Collective naturalization has to do with those born overseas in US territories. Naturalization is covered in sections 1421-1459. All citizens at birth are covered in section 1401. You would be covered under this section. You're confusing the sections as usual.
@theonlyhabsfan I find it funny you talk about people finding "real jobs". You're posting the same copy and pastes on every single birther related video on youtube. Apparently you have a lot of time on your hands. So far no judge, no legal authority accepts your view.
@PogueMoran - The same stuff I keep posting Are exact quotes from the actual Laws and Definitions of the words they contain! Unlike the absurd pathetic dribble you and your cohorts put out! Still waiting for the Law that says Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?
@theonlyhabsfan No the same things you keep posting are your misinterpretations of what the code says. Take for instance your claim that naturalization is covered under section 1401 when it is not. Again no judge, no court, no legal authority agrees with your bad interpretation. I know you make a habit of denying reality but the fact is Obama is a natural born citizen and the President of the United States. One who is born a citizen has no need to be naturalized.
@PogueMoran - Again See the word See! Aliens, Immigration, Naturalization and Collective Naturalization! By the way Look up the function of "and" Moron!
TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY
CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
SUBCHAPTER III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION <<< SEE Da!
Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization <<<SEE Da!
(Sect 1401 Obama) and (Sec, 1403 McCain). Read the Words
(Natural Born Citizen – not found) because it’s Naturalization Law!
@theonlyhabsfan Again you can't read. Section 1401 falls under the Nationality part of subchapter 3. Naturalization falls under sections 1421 to 1459. You do know the subchapter covers two separate topics. Part 1 also covers two separate topics. Nationality at birth is covered by section 1401 which is something you yourself would be covered under. Collective naturalization refers to those born in US Territories. Again you should refrain from opining on subjects you know nothing about.
@theonlyhabsfan United States Code, Sec. 1401(g) which clearly states that a person born of at least one American parent is a citizen of the U.S. by birth and no naturalization process is required for the said person to become a citizen of the U.S.. There is no law which specifically defines a "natural born citizen" or, in any way, distinguishes it from a citizen by birth. This has been accepted for many generations and you're just drumming up this nonsense to try & discredit the president.
@GeorgiaKev - You and your (OBOT) Cadre just keep showing your idiocy! Thank you for that! This may take a couple of responses! First we have only Two Types Of Citizens (Natural or Naturalized) Per the Constitution! With only two types of Citizen's, defining one defines the other! Title 8 "Aliens and Nationality defines in absolute terms who are (Naturalized citizens). So all others are Natural Born! Just Happens that this long standing and Mathematically Set Theory proves it as well!
You left one key element out of your equation...... Citizens by Birth ≠ Naturalized Citizens.
As citizens by birth do NOT need to go through any naturalization process to obtain U.S. citizenship, this places the group in the ONLY OTHER category of citizens which you claim exists: Natural Born Citizens.
@GeorgiaKev - Moron! TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY SUBCHAPTER III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization -HEAD-Sec. 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth -STATUTE- The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: (a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof; Yes it's Covered! By the Very Law I have stated! Moron!
@GeorgiaKev = Also happens to produce the exact results as described by Vattel's Law of Nations, and is also fully supported by Definitions of words like: Naturalization, Naturalized Citizen, Natural, which by the way I have already listed them see comments listed 1-18. So suggest you review them before you make an even bigger buffoon of yourself? Can't wait for whatever illogical dribble you will spew next as I'm sure any readers will enjoy?
@theonlyhabsfan FYI, I'm not a lawyer. I'm just an average American citizen (by birth) who is deeply concerned by the pathetic & slanderous lies that Obama-haters have been spewing ever since the guy was elected. Disagreeing with his politics or ideas he puts forth is one thing, but attacking his citizenship by making up one lie after another? First, it was he Kenyan-born. Then, Obama, Sr. wasn't his father. Then, Dunham wasn't his mother. Then, you need two citizen parents....on and on.
@GeorgiaKev - Well how much do the three of you get paid by his administration, or is it Acorn? To sit and spread your absurd lies about the laws of the united states of America? P.S. I never attacked his Citizenship, I attacked his eligibility to be President! it's the law! So again all you OBOT Goons can do is pathetically whine in the face of the truth and offer only slanderous childish dribble as an attack against anyone who speaks the truth! Because truth is > Than fiction! Moron!
@theonlyhabsfan And how much are you getting paid by Orly Taitz and Joe Arpaio? If the law was on your side, the courts would not have dismissed every complaint about it. You and the other birthtards are ones living in a fictional world. Neither the Constitution nor any law in this country defines a NBC as having TWO citizen parents. You cannot now make up "new" (in other words, NON-EXISTENT) laws because you're unhappy a liberal Democrat was elected president.
@memama2 No one views their original vault copy not me, not you, not the President. Everything you've ever seen of your own birth certificate is a copy. Can you perhaps show me any previous President's original in person out of the "file" birth certificate?
@memama2 In the State of Hawaii's Dept. of Health. Why don't you show us YOUR "original, in-person, out-of-the-file birth certificate" can be viewed?
(6). 4. NATURALIZATION - The conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth, by any means whatsoever. 8 USC: The act by which an alien; is made a citizen of the United States of America.
5. NATURALIZED CITIZEN - One who, being born an alien; has lawfully become a citizen of the United States Under the constitution and laws.
6. Alien - any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
(7). 7. A little fact not discussed or explained: Per Title 8 Sec, 1401!
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
Note: Both Child and Parents Born in the U.S. (not a U.S. Citizen)?
(8). Per the U.S. Constitution article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 - To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States; So Question should be given the previous definitions: Where did Congress get Authority to Rule on a Natural Born Citizens; Citizenship? Still waiting for the OBOTS to Answer it?
(10). 8. Americans – Created an Original Society when they created and adopted the U.S. Constitution. 9. Were they Native to the land? NO! They were the intruding foreign Culture! See Indigenous! 10. Were they Native? NO! As it goes to Original! See Native! So hence the use of Natural: Are they Natural to the society they formed? Yes! Are they original to that new Society? Yes! That’s the reason they used Natural Born Citizen! It’s that Simple!
(11). 9. Per the U.S Constitution Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5: Requires the President to be a Natural Born Citizen! Again; The Term and Phrase: Natural Born Citizen: If you create a new society, under a new Constitutional Legal System then anyone one who was a Natural Born Citizen or Citizen at the time it was adopted, our Original to it, and can only after it’s creation be Native and or indigenous to the society! Hence not a grand father clause! As many try to persuade.
(12). 10. Positive law (lat. ius positum) is the term generally used to describe man-made laws which bestow or remove specific privileges upon an individual or group. Contrast this with natural law
which are inherent rights, not conferred by act of legislation? Note two separate and distinct legal systems! Can a Country have both? Is it possible the U.S. legally recognized Natural Law? YES! AND YES! As, they did in the Declaration.
(13). Per the Declaration of Independence and continued in the preamble with “WE THE PEOPLE”. “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the “Laws of Nature” and of “Nature's God” entitle them,
(15). 13. Law of Nations: 212. “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."
1758 Original: French: "Les Naturels ou indigènes font ceux qui font nés dans le pays de Parens Citoyens." (Notice the use of "Naturels", Meaning - Naturals "indigènes" meaning - Native in English)!
(16). 14. A natural born citizen can in no way be considered “Alien”. As they are born to citizens on the Soil that is the U.S: 15. The Legal Jurisdiction over such a Citizen cannot be held in question! 16. A Natural Born Citizen has no need of a Grant, from the U.S. Congress in anyway, to obtain Citizenship! So the Birth Certificate is entirely irrelevant to his eligibility, and yet both sides of the issue are lying to you; for some personal gain?
(17). When you go to the polls ask yourself: How exactly do I go and willingly cast my vote, for one of their candidates? Why are you allowing this to happen? Why are 435 Members of Congress, 100 Members of the Senate, 9 Supreme Court Justices, 50 States Governors’ All silent? A cricket makes more noise! Just Say goodbye to your Natural Rights under Natural Law: and say; ZEEK HILE OBAMA! Goodbye; America!
(18). In Summary: The Laws are clear it is that simple; we allow for only 2 types of Citizens!
a. Naturalized those created by the Constitution and Laws.
b. Natural Born - Those Created by conditions of Natural Law – Those born in the U.S. of Citizen Parents!
Again; every nation on earth unequivocally recognizes the citizenship of Natural Born Citizen, meaning no other Nation can apply Jurisdiction over Said Citizen.
As a principal of Natural Law a universal truth recognized by all nations.
Your county sheriff has total power over the feds. He can keep out all of the federal agencies from entering his county. Even a president cannot tell him what to do. Sadly, most sheriffs don't know their power. Youtube.....Sheriff Mack
i've decided the reason obama is such a NWO puppet is bec the powers that be are hanging the truth over his head saying he will be exposed if he doesnt follow orders
@jmwwd Prolly not. Most likely a bunch of obese, geriatrics with 90s hair-poofs sitting around shoving donuts in their mouths and pouring through Jerome Corsi conspiracy theories that were discredited years ago. They'll probably say Obama lost his citizenship, or some nonsense.
DoubleTalkingJive 3 weeks ago
RACIST YOU WILL BURN IN HELL ONE DAY.
MrATLACATL 1 month ago
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I think Arpaio is just another BOB who doesn't have anything up his sleeves. He talks like a BOB. Like Baghdad Bob, a Maricopa County Bob.
jmwwd 1 month ago
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So is there any update on the Posse investigation on Obama? Do they really have anything of value?
jmwwd 1 month ago
Wasnt there a proposal by Orrin Hatch in 2003,for a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT allowing a foreign born citizen to run for president in order for Arnold Swarzeneggar to run? Oh thats right Arnolds white so its ok right? FUCKIN HYPOCRITES!
mroinaz 1 month ago
@mroinaz How are they hyprocrites if they want a Constitutional Amendment? Until there is such an amendment anyone not a natural US citizen cannot be President of the United States.
btskidz 1 month ago
Regardless, he's socialist scum he needs to go
oakcliffjackal 1 month ago
It's sad that our Unions have brainwashed teachers into brainwashing children into hating true Americans such as Sheriff Arpaio. He is simply trying to protect American citizens from illegal criminal invaders. What's wrong about that? There's NOTHING wrong about that, but the Unions work for the Democrats and the Democrats need illegal aliens in order to win elections. Illegals are TOOLS of the Democrats just as teachers are TOOLS of the Unions and students are TOOLS of the teachers.
groov539 2 months ago
Sniper Rifle!
mrnice2770 2 months ago
@lovecraftis1 birthers dont believe anything the GOV. says so why in the hell are they asking for more prove from them? no matter what is said they will never see the turth so whats the point are they just insane people that need Meds ?
sillycandie007 2 months ago
He's a just a fucking sheriff. Why didn't he investigate the rapes that occured in his county. He hates Obama because to him Obama is black . The rape victims in his town were Latinos. Rotten, racist bastard.... He;s too damm old anyway. He needs to sit his old ass down somewhere in a nursing home.
TheMemphis87 2 months ago
@TheMemphis87 But you, along with racist Eric Holder (head of DOJ) see nothing wrong with Black Panther members holding billy clubs standing directly in front of a polling place? There's even video and photos of that clearly illegal activity. Explain THAT one?
groov539 2 months ago
Is it me, or is the volume on this posting way too low to hear? Fix it please.......
hausding 3 months ago
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jdubya0257 3 months ago
@jdubya0257 wrong minor v happersett was a voting case and not citizenship. There is no requirement for two citizen parents and that case didn't create a requirement. US v Wong Kim Ark decided that the citizenship of the parents does not matter.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@jdubya0257
"It was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CASE IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SOLVE THESE DOUBTS."
The Supreme Court NEVER made any ruling on parents.
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
@candiceevans1 Can't be beat, huh? Well, if the National Guard were to take on Arpaio's "posse", I'll bet $1,000 the posse would be wiped out REALLY fast.
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
This is what a hero looks like.
wiz9496 3 months ago
@wiz9496 Really, where is he/she? Behind those "Exit" doors in the background?
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
@candiceevans1 Sorry but that's wrong. A sherrif has no jurisdiction outside his county. Sheriff Joe cannot compel the authorities in Hawaii to hand over anything. Joe can't stop the feds either.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
Can someone tell me why the ADL says the phrase 14/88 is "hate speech"? Why is it hateful to have a human instinct to preserve and defend one's women children family and ancestral heritage?
strong8action 3 months ago
All this crap needs to be turned around on him and his because ...he and they are " A Threat to National Security " is he a spy ? or worse ? thats what they tell us, just so they can pass new laws ect.. Throw out the whole
Odumbo administration.
MrCurtisFogle 3 months ago
All this crap needs to be turned around on him and his because ...he and they are " A Threat to National Security " is he a spy ? or worse ?
MrCurtisFogle 3 months ago
Arpaio's idea is ridiculous. All along, birthers have whined about the ORIGINAL birth certificate, but now Arpaio wants a "COPY". Microfiche is a COPY, not an original.
arrrogantlyignorant 3 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant There's nothing in the world that will these idiots will accept as definitive proof. All they're doing is trying to discredit Obama any way they can going into the 2012 campaign.
Although, looking at the current crop of tea-bag candidates, who can blame them? Who's the tea-bag beau this week? Gingrich?
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
Where was he born??? What's on the micro-film???
Hey Joe, I have four words for you. Article 2 Section 1. Nothing else matters.
MarkQuinn2k7 3 months ago
Very SAD USA does not have a consitutional president in the White House
TamirylAuvahn 3 months ago
@TamirylAuvahn Well, Bush left office almost three years ago. Just forget about it.
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
@TamirylAuvahn Except that we actually do
PogueMoran 3 months ago
Maybe Obozo will invite you to the White House for a beer summit!!!!!
blueskys1972 3 months ago
(1). People: Do you realize that WND, Arpaio, all branches of your Government are all playing sophisms with the Birth Certificate Issue! I mean why not just read the law? See (18) comments and 16 reasons below! Obama is illegal to serve per the Constitution and Title 8! The Birth Certificate is irrelevant! Obama can’t be impeached because he’s ineligible and illegally holding the office. Both sides are in collusion to keep Obama in Office!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(2). Obama is Not a Natural Born Citizen! 1. The Constitution unequivocally states “No Person except a Natural Born Citizen”. It’s not open to interpretation. 2. The Constitution just as clearly allows for only two types of citizens, A. Natural Born or B. Naturalized. I also know that by defining one: I can also define the other, and that's common sense! Only an amendment can alter the Constitution So Court cases are completely irrelevant also!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(3). Per Article 5: The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof,
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(4). Obama is illegal and a Fraud! When will Americans Wake UP?
Americans are giving away their country and their Natural Rights and Liberties and by doing so, those of others! All via the willful and unlawful actions of their own Government, to not enforce Immigration Law!
1. Both Parties put up two illegal Candidates 2008!
2. Both Candidates acquired Citizenship via USC Title 8,
I will present the truth in the following comments:
So all can witness the absurd OBOT an Media Revelations!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
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theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(5). 3. TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY
CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
SUBCHAPTER III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION
Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization
(Sect 1401 Obama) and (Sec, 1403 McCain). Read the Words
(Natural Born Citizen – not found) because it’s Naturalization Law!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan I see you're still spamming this crap on every video. Title 8 deals with nationality especially section 1401 that has to do with citizenship and not naturalization.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@PogueMoran - It's only crap in your delusional mind! Why don't you show me the law that makes Obama a Natural Born Citizen?
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan Again I'm not the one fighting reality like you are. So far you've copy and pasted the same stuff over and over to multiple videos and when confronted you run away. I've shown you multiple times all it takes to be natural born citizen is to be born in this country.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@PogueMoran - I see you and your, pals arrrogantlyignorant and GeorgiaKev are busy spreading your delusional lies in force as per usual! You lawyers can't find a real job, that's not surprising!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan
The biggest delusional lie being spread here is you saying that Barack Obama is a naturalized citizen.
You yourself maintain that there are only two types of citizenship, and since Obama is not a naturalized citizen, he is the other type -- natural born.
arrrogantlyignorant 3 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant - It's not me saying it! It's the Law Passed by Congress!!! Moron!
TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY
CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
SUBCHAPTER III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION <<< SEE Da!
Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization <<<SEE Da!
(Sect 1401 Obama) and (Sec, 1403 McCain). Read the Words
(Natural Born Citizen – not found) because it’s Naturalization Law!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan
If you are born a 'citizen at birth', there is no way you would be a naturalized citizen.
You yourself admitted that there are only TWO types of citizenship.
Since Obama never had to naturalize (because he was born a citizen), he is the other type -- natural born.
arrrogantlyignorant 3 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant - I just showed the Law! So thanks fro proving to the world who is delusional! Beavis!
Your Congress wrote the law not me. Notice the word "and", used as a function word to indicate connection or addition. Alien, Immigration, Naturalization and Collective Naturalization + Naturalized Citizen per Article 1 Sec 8, Clause 4. Authorizes Congress to rule on Naturalization! Not the Citizenship of a "Natural Born Citizen? Du-fuss!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan
Since Obama is most definitely not a naturalized citizen, the law you cited is completely irrelevant.
Again, since Obama is not a naturalized citizen, he is the other type -- natural born.
arrrogantlyignorant 3 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant - Just keep showing your delusional mind! LMFAO!!!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan
Going back to one of my previous posts, the only one showing any delusional thinking here, is you, pretending that laws say what you want them to say, not what they actually do say.
Anyone who thinks this Arpaio nonsense is going to go anywhere is delusional as well.
arrrogantlyignorant 3 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant - Well, go back and read my posts! I don't think Joe is serious either! Because as I showed you the Law is all the proof he needs!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan
I read them. It proves you're delusional.
arrrogantlyignorant 3 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant _ Well, why don't you show me the law that states Obama is a Natural Born Citizen? I showed you Title 8 Which states he's Naturalized! Still waiting? Beavis!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
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@theonlyhabsfan
"Well, why don't you show me the law that states Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?"
I don't need to.
You wrote:
"The Constitution just as clearly allows for only two types of citizens, A. Natural Born or B. Naturalized"
By your own admission there are only TWO types of citizenship. For the 4th time now, since Obama is not a naturalized citizen, he can only be the other type -- natural born.
arrrogantlyignorant 3 months ago
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@theonlyhabsfan The only thing you've shown is you don't know how to read the law
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan No you didn't you showed your misunderstanding of the law. You're confusing Nationality with naturalization. Collective naturalization has to do with those born overseas in US territories. Naturalization is covered in sections 1421-1459. All citizens at birth are covered in section 1401. You would be covered under this section. You're confusing the sections as usual.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan I find it funny you talk about people finding "real jobs". You're posting the same copy and pastes on every single birther related video on youtube. Apparently you have a lot of time on your hands. So far no judge, no legal authority accepts your view.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@PogueMoran - The same stuff I keep posting Are exact quotes from the actual Laws and Definitions of the words they contain! Unlike the absurd pathetic dribble you and your cohorts put out! Still waiting for the Law that says Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan No the same things you keep posting are your misinterpretations of what the code says. Take for instance your claim that naturalization is covered under section 1401 when it is not. Again no judge, no court, no legal authority agrees with your bad interpretation. I know you make a habit of denying reality but the fact is Obama is a natural born citizen and the President of the United States. One who is born a citizen has no need to be naturalized.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
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@PogueMoran - Again See the word See! Aliens, Immigration, Naturalization and Collective Naturalization! By the way Look up the function of "and" Moron!
TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY
CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
SUBCHAPTER III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION <<< SEE Da!
Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization <<<SEE Da!
(Sect 1401 Obama) and (Sec, 1403 McCain). Read the Words
(Natural Born Citizen – not found) because it’s Naturalization Law!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan Again you can't read. Section 1401 falls under the Nationality part of subchapter 3. Naturalization falls under sections 1421 to 1459. You do know the subchapter covers two separate topics. Part 1 also covers two separate topics. Nationality at birth is covered by section 1401 which is something you yourself would be covered under. Collective naturalization refers to those born in US Territories. Again you should refrain from opining on subjects you know nothing about.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
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@PogueMoran - Again with an utterly absurd opinion!
TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY <<<SEE THIS
CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY <<<SEE THIS
SUBCHAPTER III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION <<<SEE This
Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization <<<"SEE This<<<
(Sect 1401 Obama) and (Sec, 1403 McCain). Read the Words
(Natural Born Citizen – not found) because it’s Naturalization Law!
The Law Passed by Congress Not My Interpretation! Moron! LMFAO!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan United States Code, Sec. 1401(g) which clearly states that a person born of at least one American parent is a citizen of the U.S. by birth and no naturalization process is required for the said person to become a citizen of the U.S.. There is no law which specifically defines a "natural born citizen" or, in any way, distinguishes it from a citizen by birth. This has been accepted for many generations and you're just drumming up this nonsense to try & discredit the president.
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
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@GeorgiaKev - You and your (OBOT) Cadre just keep showing your idiocy! Thank you for that! This may take a couple of responses! First we have only Two Types Of Citizens (Natural or Naturalized) Per the Constitution! With only two types of Citizen's, defining one defines the other! Title 8 "Aliens and Nationality defines in absolute terms who are (Naturalized citizens). So all others are Natural Born! Just Happens that this long standing and Mathematically Set Theory proves it as well!
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@GeorgiaKev - Let's See: I have a "Universal set" (Lets call it citizens) U=(X:X Is a Citizen of the US) This set has two subsets:
Subset {A} = (X: X Is a Naturalized Citizen)
Subset {B} = (X: X is a Natural Born Citizen)
{a} + {b} = {U} So If
{U} - {A} = {B}
(U=All citizens) –(A=Title 8 Citizens) = (B=Natural Born Citizens)! So by defining one you define the other!
Not real Complicated! So what's your illogical answer? Can't wait to see it?
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan
You left one key element out of your equation...... Citizens by Birth ≠ Naturalized Citizens.
As citizens by birth do NOT need to go through any naturalization process to obtain U.S. citizenship, this places the group in the ONLY OTHER category of citizens which you claim exists: Natural Born Citizens.
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
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@GeorgiaKev - LMFAO - There are only two Types of Citizens See:
1. Naturalized - Article 1 Section 8 Clause 4. Authorizes Congress to rule on Naturalization!
2. Naturtal Born All others!
So it keys on only the terms Natural or Naturalized. Per the Law as written by, Congress TITLE 8 - "ALIENS AND NATIONALITY"
See Next Comment! Moron!
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@GeorgiaKev = Also happens to produce the exact results as described by Vattel's Law of Nations, and is also fully supported by Definitions of words like: Naturalization, Naturalized Citizen, Natural, which by the way I have already listed them see comments listed 1-18. So suggest you review them before you make an even bigger buffoon of yourself? Can't wait for whatever illogical dribble you will spew next as I'm sure any readers will enjoy?
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan FYI, I'm not a lawyer. I'm just an average American citizen (by birth) who is deeply concerned by the pathetic & slanderous lies that Obama-haters have been spewing ever since the guy was elected. Disagreeing with his politics or ideas he puts forth is one thing, but attacking his citizenship by making up one lie after another? First, it was he Kenyan-born. Then, Obama, Sr. wasn't his father. Then, Dunham wasn't his mother. Then, you need two citizen parents....on and on.
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
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@GeorgiaKev - Well how much do the three of you get paid by his administration, or is it Acorn? To sit and spread your absurd lies about the laws of the united states of America? P.S. I never attacked his Citizenship, I attacked his eligibility to be President! it's the law! So again all you OBOT Goons can do is pathetically whine in the face of the truth and offer only slanderous childish dribble as an attack against anyone who speaks the truth! Because truth is > Than fiction! Moron!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan And how much are you getting paid by Orly Taitz and Joe Arpaio? If the law was on your side, the courts would not have dismissed every complaint about it. You and the other birthtards are ones living in a fictional world. Neither the Constitution nor any law in this country defines a NBC as having TWO citizen parents. You cannot now make up "new" (in other words, NON-EXISTENT) laws because you're unhappy a liberal Democrat was elected president.
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
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@GeorgiaKev - Do you even realize how absurd you look trying to deny what the law States! But again thanks!
P.S. It's more likely Orly works on your side! With the sophistry you people try to play out, I wouldn't be surprised!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
GeorgiaKev = can you inform us where the original; in person out of the "file" Obama birth certificate can be viewed? Thanks.
memama2 3 months ago
@memama2 No one views their original vault copy not me, not you, not the President. Everything you've ever seen of your own birth certificate is a copy. Can you perhaps show me any previous President's original in person out of the "file" birth certificate?
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@memama2 In the State of Hawaii's Dept. of Health. Why don't you show us YOUR "original, in-person, out-of-the-file birth certificate" can be viewed?
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
(6). 4. NATURALIZATION - The conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth, by any means whatsoever. 8 USC: The act by which an alien; is made a citizen of the United States of America.
5. NATURALIZED CITIZEN - One who, being born an alien; has lawfully become a citizen of the United States Under the constitution and laws.
6. Alien - any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
Obama’s Father British (Alien)
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(7). 7. A little fact not discussed or explained: Per Title 8 Sec, 1401!
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
Note: Both Child and Parents Born in the U.S. (not a U.S. Citizen)?
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(8). Per the U.S. Constitution article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 - To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States; So Question should be given the previous definitions: Where did Congress get Authority to Rule on a Natural Born Citizens; Citizenship? Still waiting for the OBOTS to Answer it?
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(9). A little Basic Math Formula:
Let's See: I have a "Universal set" (Lets call it citizens) U=(X:X Is a Citizen of the US) This set has two subsets:
Subset {A} = (X: X Is a Naturalized Citizen)
Subset {B} = (X: X is a Natural Born Citizen)
{a} + {b} = {U} So If
{U} - {A} = {B}
(U=All citizens) –(A=Title 8 Citizens) = (B=Natural Born Citizens)! So by defining one you define the other!
U-A=B! It’s Basic Mathematics, Oh My!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(10). 8. Americans – Created an Original Society when they created and adopted the U.S. Constitution. 9. Were they Native to the land? NO! They were the intruding foreign Culture! See Indigenous! 10. Were they Native? NO! As it goes to Original! See Native! So hence the use of Natural: Are they Natural to the society they formed? Yes! Are they original to that new Society? Yes! That’s the reason they used Natural Born Citizen! It’s that Simple!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(11). 9. Per the U.S Constitution Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5: Requires the President to be a Natural Born Citizen! Again; The Term and Phrase: Natural Born Citizen: If you create a new society, under a new Constitutional Legal System then anyone one who was a Natural Born Citizen or Citizen at the time it was adopted, our Original to it, and can only after it’s creation be Native and or indigenous to the society! Hence not a grand father clause! As many try to persuade.
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(12). 10. Positive law (lat. ius positum) is the term generally used to describe man-made laws which bestow or remove specific privileges upon an individual or group. Contrast this with natural law
which are inherent rights, not conferred by act of legislation? Note two separate and distinct legal systems! Can a Country have both? Is it possible the U.S. legally recognized Natural Law? YES! AND YES! As, they did in the Declaration.
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(13). Per the Declaration of Independence and continued in the preamble with “WE THE PEOPLE”. “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the “Laws of Nature” and of “Nature's God” entitle them,
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(14). What is it to be Natural? Known to be defined since the 13th Century:
12. French: Naturel / English Natural:
a. Begotten without the sanction of law.
b. Not acquired; inherent:
c. Being in accordance with or determined by nature.
d. Having or constituting a classification based on features existing in nature.
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(15). 13. Law of Nations: 212. “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."
1758 Original: French: "Les Naturels ou indigènes font ceux qui font nés dans le pays de Parens Citoyens." (Notice the use of "Naturels", Meaning - Naturals "indigènes" meaning - Native in English)!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(16). 14. A natural born citizen can in no way be considered “Alien”. As they are born to citizens on the Soil that is the U.S: 15. The Legal Jurisdiction over such a Citizen cannot be held in question! 16. A Natural Born Citizen has no need of a Grant, from the U.S. Congress in anyway, to obtain Citizenship! So the Birth Certificate is entirely irrelevant to his eligibility, and yet both sides of the issue are lying to you; for some personal gain?
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(17). When you go to the polls ask yourself: How exactly do I go and willingly cast my vote, for one of their candidates? Why are you allowing this to happen? Why are 435 Members of Congress, 100 Members of the Senate, 9 Supreme Court Justices, 50 States Governors’ All silent? A cricket makes more noise! Just Say goodbye to your Natural Rights under Natural Law: and say; ZEEK HILE OBAMA! Goodbye; America!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
(18). In Summary: The Laws are clear it is that simple; we allow for only 2 types of Citizens!
a. Naturalized those created by the Constitution and Laws.
b. Natural Born - Those Created by conditions of Natural Law – Those born in the U.S. of Citizen Parents!
Again; every nation on earth unequivocally recognizes the citizenship of Natural Born Citizen, meaning no other Nation can apply Jurisdiction over Said Citizen.
As a principal of Natural Law a universal truth recognized by all nations.
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
@theonlyhabsfan This has to be the best and most thought out comment I've ever read on screwtube!
1eyednewt 3 months ago
@1eyednewt = Thanks!
theonlyhabsfan 3 months ago
I'm behind this guy 100% A true American Patriot
gmako74 3 months ago
So, Arpaio spends 20 minutes to praise himself, that news-worthy???
SupportDonaldTrump 3 months ago
Your county sheriff has total power over the feds. He can keep out all of the federal agencies from entering his county. Even a president cannot tell him what to do. Sadly, most sheriffs don't know their power. Youtube.....Sheriff Mack
Kitswain59 3 months ago
I'll bet Obama isn't on the microfilm.:)
noahsark1962 3 months ago
Keep it up joe. Do the peoples work. Use the constitution as your shield. Obama MUST BE IMPEACHED.
Mattclark2012 3 months ago 3
Joe knows lying thieving scum when he see's it !
hobo59 3 months ago 3
@hobo59 Yes everytime sheriff Joe looks in the mirror
PogueMoran 3 months ago
Sheriff Joe Arpaio for Prezz, send the kenyan back to kenya.
blt40 3 months ago 2
If Joe keeps up, the gov't is going to incite a civil war. I hope every patriot gets a gun and gets behind sheriffs.
strong8action 3 months ago 8
@strong8action I'll only get behind sheriff who beholden to our Constitution,
altops 3 months ago
obummer is a fraud
guadalupejoe1 3 months ago 2
Hey Joe watch your back. I'm on your side 100%.
jarofants1 3 months ago 14
THIS IS WHY WE LOVE OUR SHERIFF HERE IN MARICOPA COUNTY!
LOVE YA JOE!
BlessedONE333returnz 3 months ago 3
even if he was born in the US, he is still illegal bec his mom had to give up citizenship in order to enroll him in school in kenya. i think.
Gooodwitch 3 months ago 3
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vote ron paul or we're all going to die
Gooodwitch 3 months ago
i've decided the reason obama is such a NWO puppet is bec the powers that be are hanging the truth over his head saying he will be exposed if he doesnt follow orders
Gooodwitch 3 months ago 3