It was interesting to me that the host actually had the most interesting point, not Dawkins. "There are a billion christians and a billion muslims and four billion people who are neither, yet we have to follow their rules." (I'm paraphrasing a bit but that's basically what he said). No one seems to be able to answer for that. Seriously WHY???
It's not often I disagree with an authority like the great biologist Richard Dawkins. But speaking as a more humanist and human history oriented person, I don't think accident is an appropriate answer to a complex question about why certain "trends" "happens" to occur at a specific time or place. It's not always about the individual interference but also about the fertile ground which accommodate the growth of the plant in question.
''Is he a great scientist?..YES ''But thats all he is,a great scientist'' ''Proof and evidence belongs to science'' ''And FAITH belongs to GOD'' Therefore give to science what belongs to science and give to GOD what belongs to him When u remove all the 'knowledge of science'' that Dawkins acquired He becomes a simple ''antiChrist'' My point is..for those who believe,no proof is necessary and for those who do not believe,no proof is enough!! Dont be fooled by Dawkins!!
I like this George Stroumboulopoulos. He comes of as knowing what he talks about... and that is a fresh breeze. Keep it up.. from what I can see here I wish I could get this show in Sweden.
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible.
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation Despotism 2nd Dark Age until Bible is destroyed
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
I do not believe in organized religion and I do not believe a word that Richard Dawkins speaks... Negativity spawns death. Our Creator is a balance of Good and Evil, as we are.. yet we tip to the good side.. .. we could have killed ourselves long ago... why are we here.... PLASTIC:)
I was surprised who polite the interviewer was on this issue most people dont care about the truth and instantly want to interrupt dawkins.. Good interview in my book... I wish Mr. Dawkins was still alive though...
@Iemota21 What do you mean? Richard Dawkin's is still alive. Unless I'm confused here and what you really mean is that you wish he was more active. In which case I'd let you know that he just recently released a new book mainly aimed at the younger generation but can be read by all to give simple explanation of all the things around us and things relating to that matter.
I disagree with Dawkins that global consciousness will be raised and turned in favour of atheism. It is more concerning that his abusive style will polarize people around these sensitive issues. One can see this in these email venues for example. He is modelling violent conversations using personal vindictive and insult - which you can notice in many of the comment sections and discussion pages. Its disgusting actually.
@kenziebear44 It is an opinion, I think if you don't notice what I mention above, you probably think it is not harmful, that it is ok to argue llike that, esp. with enemies! I would have to troll through all materials now to get actual quotes. Two things off hand, one on his site, IQ testing disparaging theists as less intelligent, not sure if that was serious, the second, off hand, when Tyson 'rebukes' D publically and he essentially says F off. The Beyond Belief panel, see emails on that.
@margiedemello I agree that that's the case from the interactions I've had with Americans, but I think there might also be a cultural element to that because they're used to strong polarizations in politics, race relations etc. so they might be accultured to react differently to these issues, to react to them in very loud, angry, confrontational ways like people do on U.S. news.
The best part about this debate is that it is self perpetuating, because the premise for it is based on the unknowable.
At least it gives people something to think about.
Anyway lets just say hypothetically at some point in the future science PROVES the existence of God. Would that be a good thing or a bad thing? Would it stop war or cause more wars?
Think about that.
Actually it would cause many more wars, and those wars would rage on until someone wins the battle over whose God it is.
@Kep0v RE:"dawkins is deluded he thinks the universe created itself by nothing for no reason"
Is that really what he thinks? I don't think so, for one thing he's a biologist not a cosmologist. But I think you're putting words in his mouth he never spoke. It's called a strawman argument. Or in more common vernacular we all understand - bullshit.
@Kep0v Why is it that when people like Dawkins say they don't know how or why the universe is here you assume that means "nothing." He doesn't know, and neither do you.
I've been watching too many fox news interviews, its mind blowing to see someone treat an atheist with respect and intelligence. Why does fox news still exist?
The fact is that many of us are fed up with religion being shoved in our faces. We'd politely said little to criticize people's private beliefs because, wrongly, we thought religion would just fade away in the face of all the amazing achievements of honest inquiry. It hasn't, so now we have to be more confrontational. It's rather like taking away a baby's dummy or weaning it; there will be resistance but it's time to grow up.
@1091Floyd21 That's rather silly, I mean we definetly shouldnt use emotion to dictate reason. A Muslim, Hindu, Christain will have a gut feeling about a God(s), they cant all be true due to their obvious contradiction, so that kind've reasoning is incorrect. I mean an emcaiated Anorexic will calim they have a gut feeling that they are overweight, a child may have a gut feeling that Santa is real. Emotion shouldn't be used to dictate fact
Top marks to George Stroumboulopoulos. He interviews Dawkins very fairly and lets him talk. So many interviewers jump on him before he has finished speaking.
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@SouthCarolinaSon Chinese whispers. Someone asked him if life could have been started by aliens and he said 'yes, but eventually life itself must have evolved in a gradual, unguided way'
@SouthCarolinaSon That's what I'm saying. He said that aliens could have started OUR life, but THEIR life would have had to have gone through the same process that we think ours did. So his point is the regression eventually must come back to unguided processes starting from something very simple. The point isn't really about evolution, but more about abiogenesis, the initial start of self replicating organisms.
@SouthCarolinaSon Well there's a few decent hypothesis on that, all of which would do the job, but of course they aren't to the status of a theory because they're insanely hard to prove. If you're talking about where did sub-atomic particles and the like come from then I've got NO IDEA :) This is where I'd be looking at if I were religious. Which is weird as I've never heard religious people argue about that, it seems to only be evolution, which is proven, or abiogenesis, which is explainable
@Octamed I'm not talking about sub-atomic particles. That's a whole other discussion that also cannot be answered without a Creator God. I'm talking about life. The first cell. And the only type of evolution to be proven is micro-evolution, which doesn't even begin to explain macro-evolution, which scientists so dogmatically pound into our heads as if it were fact.
@SouthCarolinaSon no scientists i know would teach abiogenesis as a fact. And macro-evolution, if even really a scientific term, can never be proven by your standard because you only believe it if it is something you can see, touch and feel. But guess what? How can I make you see a process that takes millions of years? You tell me!
@SouthCarolinaSon well, no, not quite true. You said you believe in micro-evolution because it is proven, right? Macro-evolution is simply a combination of micro-evolution, except on a time-scale of millions of year more. So your logic of believing in micro-evolution but not macro-evolution is like me saying i believe 1+1=2, but i don't believe 1+1+1+1+....+1 will eventually equal to 1 million. See the point?
Faith in the supernatural is the opposite of belief in reason, logic and evidence. The difference is rationality requires study and intellectual effort, while religion is simply feel-good fairy tales for adults.
The Theory of Evolution has mountains of evidence from multiple academic disciplines to confirm it.
Religion is only ancient mythology that has in the past, and continues for many today to serve as a stop-gap explanation for our world and it's nature.
@bencubed Faith in the supernatural does not make sense to people because you try to figure it out using physical means, such as science. Science is a tool given by God to make sense of the physical universe around us, so when you try to use it to explain the metaphysical, it fails.
Your denial of the factuality of evolution is pathetic.
And your choice to believe mythology even more so.
BTW, the possibility that amino acids as building blocks for first life on earth arriving via meteorites is what exogenesis is about, not little green man seeding our planet.
@SouthCarolinaSon God is supernatural, Science is observational and rational thinking. You cannot have an irrational concept produce a rational concept, much less the rational concept try to prove the irrational. The two have no business with each other, and using them otherwise in an argument to prove your point is futile because people who aren't idiots see through it.
@devilzsmile The people who aren't idiots would notice that I was not trying to prove God using Science, I was, in fact, stating the opposite, that you cannot prove God using Science. You also assumed that God is irrational, which He is when looking through a solely Scientific paradigm, as Science cannot deal with the metaphysical. With a couple small exceptions, you basicly completely reiterated my last comment.
@SouthCarolinaSon No... you said God gave us science. Do you not see the contradiction of that statement? An irrational concept, cannot and will not, produce a rational concept. I have not reiterated your last comment at all. You are discussing the logical steps to a conclusion, I'm arguing that your premise is wrong in itself.
@devilzsmile Sure, that's a great point if you think that God is irrational. You have to make that assumption if you're going to make that point, and if that isn't proven or shown, then you cannot use it as one of the premises of your argument or the argument doesn't hold water. I feel like I'm repeating myself.
@SouthCarolinaSon No. The default position for me is to say God is irrational. You (and others) have made the claim he is rational. You (and again, others) have the responsibility to prove that he is rational, it is not mine to prove he is not. There is no evidence that specifies that he does exist. Until there is, he is irrational, regardless of anyone's views on what God is or isn't.
@devilzsmile The universe itself is ample evidence of God. Say that you are in the middle of the desert and you stumble apon a Rolex watch. The most rational conclusion is to say that there must be a watchmaker. Just humans themselves are many many times more complex than a watch. You look at the world around you and the most rational conclusion is that a Designer must exist.
@SouthCarolinaSon Please do not use the Watchmaker analogy as your argument. It is an age old argument that fools only the stupid. For example, who designed the watchmaker. Another example, a watch is physical, the watchmaker must therefore be physical. Can you tell me God is a physical entity, and if he is, where is he? Again, you have no evidence to prove that God exists, or ever did. Your claim is false, until otherwise provable... in which it isn't.
@devilzsmileThe universe physical,who designed the universe?God is non-physical.Please tell me the law that says physical things produce other physical things.It isn't possible.Just like the spontaneous "bursting into existence"of the universe,which atheists so adamantly and dogmatically emphasize.Again,I have all the evidence in the world for God,such as the world itself.The complexity of life, the ecosystem, etc.The list goes on and on. Atheism: "We cannot see God, therefore He doesn't exist."
@SouthCarolinaSon You are truly deluded or very much misinformed. For something physical to be created, would it not require a creator who is physical? And nowhere, do Atheists "adamantly and dogmatically" emphasize that the universe burst into existence. The Big Bang is not an example of something created from nothing.
As for your so called "evidence", can you definitively tell me everything around you was created by God? Could I not make the same claim that a Unicorn created everything?
@devilzsmile Who ever made it law that physical creation requires a physical creator? I wasn't referring to the Big Bang, just the universe in general. It had to get here somehow. You could say a unicorn created everything, be my guest.
@SouthCarolinaSon The law of the conservation of mass is a distant simplification. I can refer to the elements of this universe as a product of a reaction, and God as a catalyst. A catalyst, in this sense must be physical for something to happen. When a catalyst ignites this reaction, evidence of the catalyst are found in the product. Again, no proof of this, have you or others have been shown. Despite this, you have shown yourself that the Watchmaker argument in this case, means nothing.
Dawkins is a Luciferian promoting that agenda... of rational thought, left brain logic. He promotes false information about our origins, in order to keep humans unaware of their connection to God, or realize their full potential. If you don't believe in God, you will be controlled by the adversary, whether you are conscious of it or not.
@SovereignBeing did you know that the foo fighters last 3 albums were written about what i have discovered. go to veruca salt "all hail me" and find my 3 comments to find out why. dont you want to know the truth? you may have to press "see all" once there. regards.
@SovereignBeing my reaction itself has nothing to do with the truth, but with the lies you speak. You are unable to bring evidence to anything mentioned before hand. It seems to me you are delusional, and I am sorry for you. Unless you are a internet troll which I assume you are not.
@dalhar20 I think you are the troll here, no need to feel sorry for me you are the one following the devil..! lol
Perhaps you can provide me with the truth, the reason there is no God in your world - Why do you follow the devil so readily, do u know where that leads..?
@MagicTellaVision did you know that the foo fighters last 3 albums were written about what i have discovered. i am not lying. go to veruca salt "all hail me" and find my 3 comments to learn why. dont you want to know the truth? you may have to press "see all" once there. regards.
THE EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED UNIVERSE REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENT DESIGNER and I just happen to be able to discuss this with you intelligently on my ATHEISM IS A GIGANTIC FAIRY TALE video forum daily. Be sure to bring some evidence for your side of the issue if you have any.
It's obvious that Richard takes such a hateful stance because he is a closet homosexual and needs an outlet to release his internalized rage. I remember on a South Park episode, Richard Dawkins was fucking Mr. Garrison up the ass saying "Oh yeah Richard, pound my ass like a monkey Richard!" LOL
@metalslut1 posted "It's obvious that Richard takes such a hateful stance because he is a closet homosexual"
Not sure how you make that connection
Are you saying atheism has link to homosexuality? If that is the case how come so many of the church have been fucking young boys for decades and getting away with it? Mainly because the powers in the church have been moving these perverts around different parishes to avoid prosecution
@pinball1970 Hahahaha...that's a good one! Just reiterating what Richard Dawkins and his loyal disciples, like yourself, like to do with their spare time, that's all. South Park merely satirized this fact when Richard Dawkins absolutely walloped Mr. Garrison right up the hole. Coincidence? I think not. LOL :)
Ok thats four times- seriously see someone and talk it out or buy some serious lube and get it over with
Dawkins was using a metaphor you know like jesus did?
Didnt god mentioning spreading his seed on fertile ground rather than stone or thorns? - he was not actually intending the male part of the congragation to knock one out over the church lawn
@metalslut1 I make the connection because Richard Dawkins likens atheism to a homosexual coming out of the closet in his interview. Richard also hates spirituality and religion in all forms and has not tried to hide it. Richard Dawkins' internalized hate appears to stem from his repressed homosexuality. Just like on South Park, where he pounded Mr. Garrison up the ass, he needs to come to grips with his own sexuality. "Oh yeah Richard, pound my ass like a monkey!" :)
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Modern atheists are like one of the estimated 10 trillion microscopic organisms living inside their guts, strutting around trying to pretend that human beings don't exist, except for infinitely more ignorant. If one wants to embrace worthless superstition, that is their God-granted choice, but don't try pretending around the average truck driver or biker that atheists are anything other than liars of the most extreme and perverse kind. ATHEISM = GROSS SUPERSTITION = BULLSHIT.
Scientists are hardly helped when one of their champions immerses himself in the emollient of his own enthusiasm...He is as responsive to criticism as a black hole in space. He has remarked, "if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution that person is ignorant, stupid or insane."..These comical declarations may be abbreviated by observing that [Dawkins] is persuaded not only is science a very good thing, but no other thing can be good at all.—David Berlinski, THE DEVIL'S DELUSION
Jesus came to save atheists from the "spaghetti monster."
One lady asked Dawkins, "What if you're wrong?" Dawkins' classic evasion was to accuse (of course) the woman of being an atheist regarding the "spaghetti monster" (implying he's a believer!) while he's simply an atheist in the Judeo-Christian God. Dawkins applies his atheism like Grecian Formula, and for a few prejudicially-solicited spots of grey, "a little dab'll do ya" to get you back to black and on the highway to hell in no time!
I'm intrigued, will read his book this summer. I hope it's not all rhetoric lacking any factual evidence as he most prominently noted that this would be referred to as "blind-faith." However, I must express my discontent with the following:
"You thought religion might be gone by then""Yea I think I did"
Atheists are a form of religion, despite his arrogant interview, he convinced me I should look into his book. Also, has anyone here looked at the history of science? Hello! Talk about blind faith
@lostmyhead Don't be stupid! The man is a false prophet! He's an intellectual fraud! Antony Flew calls him out, THERE IS A GOD: HOW THE WORLD'S MOST NOTORIOUS ATHEIST CHANGED HIS MIND. David Aikman, former militant atheist, calls him out in THE DELUSION OF DISBELIEF:WHY THE 'NEW ATHEISM' IS A THREAT TO YOUR LIFE LIBERTY AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. He's excoriated in Dinesh D'Souza's LIFE AFTER DEATH:THE EVIDENCE. He's bitchslapped all over the intellectual world i shit you not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@sexyeur you accuse me of being stupid for what? And you 'shit me not' about what? About the fact that there are a lot of books written on the battle between science and religion? - meaning you didn't read or understand my comment.
Whatever you're on, keep it away from me! Though, I might take you up on those titles by looking over them during summer as well.
@ExaggeratedElegy you're forgiven, of me. God is another story, you fool. Suppose those in the twin towers of 9/11 knew destruction was coming, like Bush did. Wouldn't they be dragging idiots like you down the elevator shaft for your own good? Kicking your sorry ass down the stairwell because you were too stupid to know better to take a hint...a BLARING hint, like scriptures that say the Jesus history professes to is coming back, and not as your suffering servant.
I love those who with ome breath proclaim God to be perfect, divine and incomprehensible to human intelligence, yet with the next breath will demonstrate the utter insanity of telling you what said entity thinks, feels, desires, demands. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so moronically, knuckle draggingly dangerous. Also, the fact that your psrticularly crude and barbaric ideology relies upon threats and promises in order to sustain itself demonstrates quite clearly its utter lack...
@ExaggeratedElegy do you mumble to yourself? You think, God isn't real and so hell not either while you deceive yourself and coddle yourself that you're in a "bigger" crowd. Well, soon enough, your life will end, and perhaps you will know then what even many 'Xstians' have been trying to tell you: Fear God Who has the power to destroy your soul! You were made for God's good pleasure, not your blind 'self-assurance'! GOD made ALL things, NOT 'science' even hell for the ungodly. REPENT!!!
Dawkins has so many haters, but even so many years after the book comes out, not one will actually stand up and prove him wrong. You can bet they would if they could.
we will have victory . and the devil and all of his children will be no more . they will be whiped from the earth . no more will we have to here there stinking lies . dirty cursed mouths . they have chose not only to not follow God . i can understand a man that finds it hard to live that strait life that God wants him to live . but to go to war with God . now thats another story . WHO CAN STAND AGAINST GOD ON HIS GREAT DAY . WHEN HE SAY TIME IS UP . WHO WILL BE ABLE TO STAND ?
Statistics show that religiosity is actually very good for our later life well-being believe or not. Religion also has a lot of positive aspects, more positive in my opinion. Perhaps the negative aspects exist only when people twist scripture and use it out of context to excuse killing people, starting war and judging people right and left. Sadly, this corruption has happened in Christianity, Judaism and Islam
@smile2thehighest true, but doesnt it worry you that 4 of those are just god saying "you will love only me, no one, else, worship me on the sabbath, dont make models of anyone else". that hints at a god that is a little jelous, no?
however im just being light hearted, i do agree. commandments 5-10 are ways that you should live your life. although i like to think that people should know that without having to be told it by the bible first. :)
@321seb I actually don't see anything wrong about this type of jealousy. I hope your not thinking psycho-ex jealousy when you think of a jealous god. God won't strike you down with lightning if he sees you worshiping another God. The abrahamic religions focus on free will so God can't force you to follow him. Instead it is one who decides which path to follow and it's more of he doesn't want you to go astray from his word. If you go against God you go against yourself and others.
It's kind of idealistic to think that people are born with strong moral convictions. I don't want to discuss nature vs nurture but we pretty much learn right from wrong. I'm sure survival of the fittest was the moral motto to live by once don't you think so? I'm not saying we are born without a conscience but can we agree that growing up mom encourages you not to steal, not because you're going to end up(consequences) in jail but because it is morally wrong(selfish/unfair).
@smile2thehighest "survivor of the fittest" never meant that to all others be damned. We worked in communities before language existed. We would never have survived and thrived otherwise as a species. If we were to ignore the needs or safety of those in our tribes or families then we were ourselves doomed. We were always raised in high oxytocin environments where nature allowed as in we were close to people, contact was strong and empathy would be a nurtured quality, not decreed by a 'god'
@coleruamusic Well just took a class about the coming of religion and how it evolved. Basically if something stops having a purpose it seizes to exist. Apparently religion has a purpose. Secular studies have shown that it is good for your well-being etc anyway you can research that yourself. But anyway even though we did work in communities do you actually believe that nothing illegal like rape and stealing ever happened? If you're the toughest guy in the group, who could stop you?
Yes, religion is a very interesting subject in terms of human evolution and the need for early humans to use it to help explain what they couldn't. In fact you are right that religion can be beneficial to people (all religions the exact same) just like how a placebo works so long as you are getting it from someone you believe to have the power to do something like a doctor or a religious leader. There is actually a part of the brain that responds to religion and meditation
As for the rape and stealing, I'm not sure what I said to make you think I was suggesting that they didn't happen. But religion didn't stop them either so I'm not sure why you mention it. As for if someone would stop a bigger guy raping or killing? People have tried and succeeded/failed to stop people before as well as being chickens and ignoring it but again, it happens where there is and isn't religion.
@PhysicalsimForever did you know that the foo fighters last 3 albums were written about what i have discovered. i am not lying. go to veruca salt "all hail me" and find my 3 comments to find out why. dont you want to know the truth? you may have to press "see all" once there. regards.
I'm not saying that people are born without a consious but we definitly learn most of what we now believe to be moral. Growing up I'm sure mom told you not to steal not only because there were consequences (jail-time) but because it was wrong (selfish/unfair). I'm sure once upon a time when our species was new survival of the fittest was the motto of consciensness. Morals come from religion (incl. non Abrohamic).Thankfully we have morals. I still don't think any less of the 10 commandments.
@smile2thehighest lol morals don't come from religion, it's the opposite, religions got their morals from the surrounding moral trends at the time. Why do you think the ten commandments don't speak of slavery? And even advocates it later in the bible. Why do you think it is against gays? Morals come in part from genetic dispositions of sympathy, and alot from discussion and reasoning between people. AFTER religion comes and claims as though it always thought like current moral trends
@2CSST2 I had to respond. Morals may originate from man. Since man is a practitioner of religion you cannot separate the one from the other. Slavery, gay-friendliness all that jazz you're talking about is created by man and thus is eradicated by man the same way. As for your comments on slavery, you really can't accuse Jews of advocating slavery, they suffered it under Egyptian rule long before the 10 commandments. Maybe you should touch up on your Hebrew Bible knowledge.
and he frequently intervenes with free will! in the tale of moses after a few plagues the pharoah wants to let the jews be free, god "hardens the pharoahs heart" so he can continue with the murderous plagues to show his power.
God does force you to follow him:
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. Exodus 22:19
im not bashing you man :) if it works for ya then hey, but it's all there in the bible
It does not equal death.Remember thou shall not kill.These laws are for men not God.God intervened to set them free 4m the Pharoah.But the pharoah chose to let His people go,he didn't have to,he had 2conquer his own pride.Dying is not doom, living a selfish/angry life is.Things sink by their own weight.Eventually someone who drinks will end up in the hospital.Cause&Effect.There are many paths, we choose which pass we want to follow.We doom ourselves.Even in the face of death, the choice is yours
@kuhj278 You are right. Love God above all things and others as you love yourself. I think that's an actual summary of all the rules. I think the bible basically tells everyone to be unselfish, so I can see how that conflicts with individualism. I think individualism is something that both athiest and christians have trouble reconciling their lives with.
@smile2thehighest Yeah I don't think you've read the entire bible. It says you should kill homosexuals it condones rape, murder, pedophelia, racism and apartheid. Just ask me about any one of those and I'll find the part for you
Thebible is complicated because we are dealing with a book that is historical,contains songs,stories(that didn't happen but have a good moral message)so it's easy to get things out of context if you are not a historical theologian.The bible is seriously like aGIANTsoap opera.People kill,rape,cheat, love,help, betray etc So just because it's in the bible doesn'tmean that you should make the same mistakes they did.On the contrary, learn from them.It is precedent to move forward.Jesus loves all ppl
@smile2thehighest It's very doubtful that Jesus even existed because the bible is the only historical source where we hear about him. And that goes for most ''Historical'' events in the bible that they cannot be found in any other historical records wich really doesn't make it a history book. And the stories that are in in that is supposed to teach morals and stuff don't always do that just look at the book of judges and the views that they have on women aswell as leviticus. Get a clue
Dawkins spoke about moral truths..I'm sure they come from religion. He didn't make them up himself. If Dawkins believes in moral truths than he just wants people to believe HIS faith (atheism) of what is good and evil. No so much about evidence. The evidence of religion is that scientifically (biologically) it is beneficial for you. Of course, only a religion of hope, love, forgiveness and peace. Keep ya out of trouble : )
@smile2thehighest Actually, he said that he doubts that there is such a thing as a moral truth. But anyway, I think it's reasonable to assert that morality was here long before religion, specifically YOUR religion. So it's a bit cheap saying that Christianity "invented" it. I can assure you that's not where my morality comes from. May I ask whether you think we are above the other animals? And as such we can treat them as we please?
I didn't say which religion invented morality Morality is personal.Dawkins understands that morality is very subjective and if that is the case the whole world is religious in its own way because everyone lives by a creed, things that they believe are right and wrong.However he did state that morals did exist. Sounds a bit Marixist no, he is too a religious fanatic.Yes I think we are,we have language and critical thinking skills and they don't.But no you can't treat them as you please, what?
@LockardKevin but I never claimed those things were true or that I believed in them, simply that I can't claim to know whether or not they are true. Obviously evolution overrules creationism, but that doesn't prove religions invalid necessarily. I don't think most religions that have survived this long were simply created without any reason. Agnostics (of the non-theistic/atheistic variety) simply don't know, and I don't think science has done any better to invalidate religion (- Creationism) t
@sebastionbach yes in regard to creationism vs. Evolution he wins, but *most* religious people I know don't consider god and evolution mutually exclusive (only stupid people still believe things like Genesis verbatim lol). I went to a religious school when I was younger and they taught evolution in the Biology class. But yes evolution overrules creationism scientifically.
Dawkins is very smart and incredibly articulate (although he is somewhat arrogant), but I don't agree with him 100%. I think Atheism has many of the same pitfalls that religion does (ie it can no more be proven by fact), I think agnosticism is really a more logical as it doesn't claim to know anything that can't be factually proven or disproven (like the existence of a god).
@18Iamtheguy I think Dawkins seeks to disprove religion by disproving the claims of religion regarding creation and evolution. In this respect he does back up his beliefs with science and sustains his position in that way. I would say in this respect he does prov
It was interesting to me that the host actually had the most interesting point, not Dawkins. "There are a billion christians and a billion muslims and four billion people who are neither, yet we have to follow their rules." (I'm paraphrasing a bit but that's basically what he said). No one seems to be able to answer for that. Seriously WHY???
Britmusicfan1 4 days ago
Damn, I thought it would last an hour.
AndreasZimmerman 2 weeks ago
It's not often I disagree with an authority like the great biologist Richard Dawkins. But speaking as a more humanist and human history oriented person, I don't think accident is an appropriate answer to a complex question about why certain "trends" "happens" to occur at a specific time or place. It's not always about the individual interference but also about the fertile ground which accommodate the growth of the plant in question.
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''Is he a great scientist?..YES ''But thats all he is,a great scientist'' ''Proof and evidence belongs to science'' ''And FAITH belongs to GOD'' Therefore give to science what belongs to science and give to GOD what belongs to him When u remove all the 'knowledge of science'' that Dawkins acquired He becomes a simple ''antiChrist'' My point is..for those who believe,no proof is necessary and for those who do not believe,no proof is enough!! Dont be fooled by Dawkins!!
manaseful1 2 months ago
that tie looks australia themed!
geekgroupie42 2 months ago
I like this George Stroumboulopoulos. He comes of as knowing what he talks about... and that is a fresh breeze. Keep it up.. from what I can see here I wish I could get this show in Sweden.
AuntieAnneS 3 months ago 3
Isn't Richard Dawkins a lovely and charming man when he doesn't have a creationist spitting bile at his face.
cormacbuzz 3 months ago 14
@cormacbuzz I think he's lovely and charming even when a delusional creationist is spitting bile at his face :)
LittleBabyBum 2 months ago 4
@LittleBabyBum I agree :)
summerlytriangle 1 month ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible.
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation Despotism 2nd Dark Age until Bible is destroyed
SpencerBenedict2nd 3 months ago
Really enjoyed this....
moctezuma696 3 months ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
SpencerBenedict2nd 3 months ago
I do not believe in organized religion and I do not believe a word that Richard Dawkins speaks... Negativity spawns death. Our Creator is a balance of Good and Evil, as we are.. yet we tip to the good side.. .. we could have killed ourselves long ago... why are we here.... PLASTIC:)
neilpeartripley 4 months ago
I was surprised who polite the interviewer was on this issue most people dont care about the truth and instantly want to interrupt dawkins.. Good interview in my book... I wish Mr. Dawkins was still alive though...
Iemota21 4 months ago
@Iemota21 Man, don't try to spread that bullshit, man....
ManDudeYeah 4 months ago
@Iemota21 Richard Dawkins is still alive..
Getlowend1812 3 months ago
@Iemota21 What do you mean? Richard Dawkin's is still alive. Unless I'm confused here and what you really mean is that you wish he was more active. In which case I'd let you know that he just recently released a new book mainly aimed at the younger generation but can be read by all to give simple explanation of all the things around us and things relating to that matter.
rapmasterRH 3 months ago
I disagree with Dawkins that global consciousness will be raised and turned in favour of atheism. It is more concerning that his abusive style will polarize people around these sensitive issues. One can see this in these email venues for example. He is modelling violent conversations using personal vindictive and insult - which you can notice in many of the comment sections and discussion pages. Its disgusting actually.
margiedemello 4 months ago
@margiedemello - Can you elaborate with examples, please?
kenziebear44 3 months ago
@kenziebear44 It is an opinion, I think if you don't notice what I mention above, you probably think it is not harmful, that it is ok to argue llike that, esp. with enemies! I would have to troll through all materials now to get actual quotes. Two things off hand, one on his site, IQ testing disparaging theists as less intelligent, not sure if that was serious, the second, off hand, when Tyson 'rebukes' D publically and he essentially says F off. The Beyond Belief panel, see emails on that.
margiedemello 3 months ago
@kenziebear44 The issues seem to me more polarized and agressive in US than here in Can.
margiedemello 3 months ago
@kenziebear44 The issues seem to me more polarized and agressive in US than here in Can. I could be wrong, my impression.
margiedemello 3 months ago
@margiedemello I agree that that's the case from the interactions I've had with Americans, but I think there might also be a cultural element to that because they're used to strong polarizations in politics, race relations etc. so they might be accultured to react differently to these issues, to react to them in very loud, angry, confrontational ways like people do on U.S. news.
Mehtaphorical 3 months ago
It's frustrating because the interviewer is so objective and professional, but for some reason I can't quite put my finger on I can't stand him
josiedeepvoice 4 months ago
The best part about this debate is that it is self perpetuating, because the premise for it is based on the unknowable.
At least it gives people something to think about.
Anyway lets just say hypothetically at some point in the future science PROVES the existence of God. Would that be a good thing or a bad thing? Would it stop war or cause more wars?
Think about that.
Actually it would cause many more wars, and those wars would rage on until someone wins the battle over whose God it is.
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kupekake 4 months ago
The Hour is the first show to have interviewed Richard Dawkins, and not come off as a bunch of morons. This was wonderful!
Kith000 4 months ago 118
@Kith000 it's cuz we're canadian ;)
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@Kith000 Watch his interview of Chris Hedges and you will find out where he really stands.
christo930 1 week ago
dawkins is deluded he thinks the universe created itself by nothing for no reason
Kep0v 4 months ago
@Kep0v Yep, I agree. Good thing no respectable scientist, Dawkins included, has ever made such a ridiculous claim.
Kith000 4 months ago
@Kith000 william lane craig is doing it kinda
Kep0v 4 months ago
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@Kep0v RE:"dawkins is deluded he thinks the universe created itself by nothing for no reason"
Is that really what he thinks? I don't think so, for one thing he's a biologist not a cosmologist. But I think you're putting words in his mouth he never spoke. It's called a strawman argument. Or in more common vernacular we all understand - bullshit.
Ansonidak 4 months ago
@Kep0v Why is it that when people like Dawkins say they don't know how or why the universe is here you assume that means "nothing." He doesn't know, and neither do you.
mathkills 4 months ago
I've been watching too many fox news interviews, its mind blowing to see someone treat an atheist with respect and intelligence. Why does fox news still exist?
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@yodellikeyoumeanit09 Visit us in europe. It sounds as you would like it here ;)
dp2208 3 months ago
@yodellikeyoumeanit09 well.. *duh* you just answered your own question. :D... *realizes what that means*... :'(
Braskass 2 months ago
The Hour makes me want to move to Canada
zarthered 4 months ago
The fact is that many of us are fed up with religion being shoved in our faces. We'd politely said little to criticize people's private beliefs because, wrongly, we thought religion would just fade away in the face of all the amazing achievements of honest inquiry. It hasn't, so now we have to be more confrontational. It's rather like taking away a baby's dummy or weaning it; there will be resistance but it's time to grow up.
ritchloui 5 months ago
The interviewer was actully really good
TVisPoison 5 months ago
The counter argument to blind faith is that it in't blind because the person has a "gut feeling"
1091Floyd21 5 months ago
@1091Floyd21 That's rather silly, I mean we definetly shouldnt use emotion to dictate reason. A Muslim, Hindu, Christain will have a gut feeling about a God(s), they cant all be true due to their obvious contradiction, so that kind've reasoning is incorrect. I mean an emcaiated Anorexic will calim they have a gut feeling that they are overweight, a child may have a gut feeling that Santa is real. Emotion shouldn't be used to dictate fact
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TheSuedeSpade1 5 months ago
I find George to be a very good interviewer. Which is to say fair and capable of posing questions worthy of the guest.
FrodoDojo 5 months ago
I like his tie.
VermilionSteed 5 months ago
Top marks to George Stroumboulopoulos. He interviews Dawkins very fairly and lets him talk. So many interviewers jump on him before he has finished speaking.
DrAltais 5 months ago
Is it more delusional to believe in a God that does not exist, or to not believe in a God that does exist?
JoEEll2233 5 months ago
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
methodical or mystical. They both have power.
lightworker2011 5 months ago
This host is like Tony Danza's & Ralph Machio's love child. He doesn't seem smart enough to interview Dawkins.
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figbat1 5 months ago
I think more interviews should be conducted this way. Yes completely opposing view points coming to a head in debate helps the viewers to take something from both sides and bodes for a more balanced opinion overall, but giving a guy a chance to answer questions posed to him and respecting his response and then challenging it intellectually is very refreshing and I hope more interviews are conducted for members of any opposing viewpoints in this fashion
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
I would like to thank Gorge Washington for fighting for our freedom against the Church of England’s Middle Eastern Aramaic Spaghetti Monster which is not the word of God. Sincerely one Free Secular Nation above all Religious theocracy, as a free American I refuse to be forced to bow to a dead Middle Eastern man who has been elected to be my God and who I would not trust my money with which is based on blind faith for a fool.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
Fucking pop sound at the beginning almost blew out my ears !!!, edit you fucking videos correctly please.
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majorl311 6 months ago
And his only explanation for life is aliens. I love this guy.
SouthCarolinaSon 6 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon Chinese whispers. Someone asked him if life could have been started by aliens and he said 'yes, but eventually life itself must have evolved in a gradual, unguided way'
Octamed 6 months ago
@Octamed Yes, but when you say life was started by aliens, you enter infinited regress. Well where did the aliens come from? See what I'm saying?
SouthCarolinaSon 6 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon That's what I'm saying. He said that aliens could have started OUR life, but THEIR life would have had to have gone through the same process that we think ours did. So his point is the regression eventually must come back to unguided processes starting from something very simple. The point isn't really about evolution, but more about abiogenesis, the initial start of self replicating organisms.
Octamed 6 months ago
@Octamed Yes, I know that but where do you get the "something very simple?" That's what infinite regress is.
SouthCarolinaSon 6 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon Well there's a few decent hypothesis on that, all of which would do the job, but of course they aren't to the status of a theory because they're insanely hard to prove. If you're talking about where did sub-atomic particles and the like come from then I've got NO IDEA :) This is where I'd be looking at if I were religious. Which is weird as I've never heard religious people argue about that, it seems to only be evolution, which is proven, or abiogenesis, which is explainable
Octamed 6 months ago
@Octamed I'm not talking about sub-atomic particles. That's a whole other discussion that also cannot be answered without a Creator God. I'm talking about life. The first cell. And the only type of evolution to be proven is micro-evolution, which doesn't even begin to explain macro-evolution, which scientists so dogmatically pound into our heads as if it were fact.
SouthCarolinaSon 6 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon no scientists i know would teach abiogenesis as a fact. And macro-evolution, if even really a scientific term, can never be proven by your standard because you only believe it if it is something you can see, touch and feel. But guess what? How can I make you see a process that takes millions of years? You tell me!
Casshyr 5 months ago
@Casshyr Which is why it takes as much faith to believe in evolution as it does to believe in God.
SouthCarolinaSon 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon well, no, not quite true. You said you believe in micro-evolution because it is proven, right? Macro-evolution is simply a combination of micro-evolution, except on a time-scale of millions of year more. So your logic of believing in micro-evolution but not macro-evolution is like me saying i believe 1+1=2, but i don't believe 1+1+1+1+....+1 will eventually equal to 1 million. See the point?
Casshyr 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon ..
Faith in the supernatural is the opposite of belief in reason, logic and evidence. The difference is rationality requires study and intellectual effort, while religion is simply feel-good fairy tales for adults.
The Theory of Evolution has mountains of evidence from multiple academic disciplines to confirm it.
Religion is only ancient mythology that has in the past, and continues for many today to serve as a stop-gap explanation for our world and it's nature.
bencubed 5 months ago
@bencubed Faith in the supernatural does not make sense to people because you try to figure it out using physical means, such as science. Science is a tool given by God to make sense of the physical universe around us, so when you try to use it to explain the metaphysical, it fails.
SouthCarolinaSon 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon .
Your denial of the factuality of evolution is pathetic.
And your choice to believe mythology even more so.
BTW, the possibility that amino acids as building blocks for first life on earth arriving via meteorites is what exogenesis is about, not little green man seeding our planet.
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bencubed 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon God is supernatural, Science is observational and rational thinking. You cannot have an irrational concept produce a rational concept, much less the rational concept try to prove the irrational. The two have no business with each other, and using them otherwise in an argument to prove your point is futile because people who aren't idiots see through it.
devilzsmile 5 months ago
@devilzsmile The people who aren't idiots would notice that I was not trying to prove God using Science, I was, in fact, stating the opposite, that you cannot prove God using Science. You also assumed that God is irrational, which He is when looking through a solely Scientific paradigm, as Science cannot deal with the metaphysical. With a couple small exceptions, you basicly completely reiterated my last comment.
SouthCarolinaSon 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon No... you said God gave us science. Do you not see the contradiction of that statement? An irrational concept, cannot and will not, produce a rational concept. I have not reiterated your last comment at all. You are discussing the logical steps to a conclusion, I'm arguing that your premise is wrong in itself.
devilzsmile 5 months ago
@devilzsmile Sure, that's a great point if you think that God is irrational. You have to make that assumption if you're going to make that point, and if that isn't proven or shown, then you cannot use it as one of the premises of your argument or the argument doesn't hold water. I feel like I'm repeating myself.
SouthCarolinaSon 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon No. The default position for me is to say God is irrational. You (and others) have made the claim he is rational. You (and again, others) have the responsibility to prove that he is rational, it is not mine to prove he is not. There is no evidence that specifies that he does exist. Until there is, he is irrational, regardless of anyone's views on what God is or isn't.
devilzsmile 5 months ago
@devilzsmile The universe itself is ample evidence of God. Say that you are in the middle of the desert and you stumble apon a Rolex watch. The most rational conclusion is to say that there must be a watchmaker. Just humans themselves are many many times more complex than a watch. You look at the world around you and the most rational conclusion is that a Designer must exist.
SouthCarolinaSon 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon Please do not use the Watchmaker analogy as your argument. It is an age old argument that fools only the stupid. For example, who designed the watchmaker. Another example, a watch is physical, the watchmaker must therefore be physical. Can you tell me God is a physical entity, and if he is, where is he? Again, you have no evidence to prove that God exists, or ever did. Your claim is false, until otherwise provable... in which it isn't.
devilzsmile 5 months ago
@devilzsmileThe universe physical,who designed the universe?God is non-physical.Please tell me the law that says physical things produce other physical things.It isn't possible.Just like the spontaneous "bursting into existence"of the universe,which atheists so adamantly and dogmatically emphasize.Again,I have all the evidence in the world for God,such as the world itself.The complexity of life, the ecosystem, etc.The list goes on and on. Atheism: "We cannot see God, therefore He doesn't exist."
SouthCarolinaSon 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon You are truly deluded or very much misinformed. For something physical to be created, would it not require a creator who is physical? And nowhere, do Atheists "adamantly and dogmatically" emphasize that the universe burst into existence. The Big Bang is not an example of something created from nothing.
As for your so called "evidence", can you definitively tell me everything around you was created by God? Could I not make the same claim that a Unicorn created everything?
devilzsmile 5 months ago
@devilzsmile Who ever made it law that physical creation requires a physical creator? I wasn't referring to the Big Bang, just the universe in general. It had to get here somehow. You could say a unicorn created everything, be my guest.
SouthCarolinaSon 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon The law of the conservation of mass is a distant simplification. I can refer to the elements of this universe as a product of a reaction, and God as a catalyst. A catalyst, in this sense must be physical for something to happen. When a catalyst ignites this reaction, evidence of the catalyst are found in the product. Again, no proof of this, have you or others have been shown. Despite this, you have shown yourself that the Watchmaker argument in this case, means nothing.
devilzsmile 5 months ago
@SouthCarolinaSon
You obviously haven't read the book if you say something like that...
Mother Nature bless Richard Dawkins :)
Daphuhnuh 5 months ago
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Religion is dying out? You obviously have not been to China lately.
SouthCarolinaSon 6 months ago
So what if he is ? What if you are ?
Super405807 6 months ago
Dawkins is a Luciferian promoting that agenda... of rational thought, left brain logic. He promotes false information about our origins, in order to keep humans unaware of their connection to God, or realize their full potential. If you don't believe in God, you will be controlled by the adversary, whether you are conscious of it or not.
SovereignBeing 6 months ago
@SovereignBeing did you know that the foo fighters last 3 albums were written about what i have discovered. go to veruca salt "all hail me" and find my 3 comments to find out why. dont you want to know the truth? you may have to press "see all" once there. regards.
figbat1 6 months ago
@SovereignBeing At what age did you begin to believe this, were you brainwashed, and what proof do you have of this bullshit.
dalhar20 6 months ago
@dalhar20 your reaction to my words is proof enough that it is truth i speak..If it wasn't true, you would have no reaction to it...
SovereignBeing 6 months ago
@SovereignBeing my reaction itself has nothing to do with the truth, but with the lies you speak. You are unable to bring evidence to anything mentioned before hand. It seems to me you are delusional, and I am sorry for you. Unless you are a internet troll which I assume you are not.
dalhar20 6 months ago
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@dalhar20 I think you are the troll here, no need to feel sorry for me you are the one following the devil..! lol
Perhaps you can provide me with the truth, the reason there is no God in your world - Why do you follow the devil so readily, do u know where that leads..?
SovereignBeing 6 months ago
@SovereignBeing Show me how God created everything in the bible. If his information is false then the bible might have the correct information
Octamed 6 months ago
One Free Nation (((Not))) Under God
MagicTellaVision 7 months ago
@MagicTellaVision did you know that the foo fighters last 3 albums were written about what i have discovered. i am not lying. go to veruca salt "all hail me" and find my 3 comments to learn why. dont you want to know the truth? you may have to press "see all" once there. regards.
figbat1 6 months ago
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THE EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED UNIVERSE REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENT DESIGNER and I just happen to be able to discuss this with you intelligently on my ATHEISM IS A GIGANTIC FAIRY TALE video forum daily. Be sure to bring some evidence for your side of the issue if you have any.
MegaSage007 7 months ago
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feanando 7 months ago
It's obvious that Richard takes such a hateful stance because he is a closet homosexual and needs an outlet to release his internalized rage. I remember on a South Park episode, Richard Dawkins was fucking Mr. Garrison up the ass saying "Oh yeah Richard, pound my ass like a monkey Richard!" LOL
metalslut1 7 months ago
@metalslut1 posted "It's obvious that Richard takes such a hateful stance because he is a closet homosexual"
Not sure how you make that connection
Are you saying atheism has link to homosexuality? If that is the case how come so many of the church have been fucking young boys for decades and getting away with it? Mainly because the powers in the church have been moving these perverts around different parishes to avoid prosecution
pinball1970 7 months ago
@pinball1970 BTW, Richard sure WAS pounding Mr. Garrison's ass some hard too...almost LIKE a monkey. Coincidence? I think not. LOL
metalslut1 7 months ago
@metalslut1
I think you have some sort repressed anal sex fixation
You have posted three times and mentioned “ass pounding”
Perhaps you would like to get something of your chest?
Share with the group? Its good to talk- we can always get to the bestiality later
pinball1970 7 months ago
@pinball1970 Hahahaha...that's a good one! Just reiterating what Richard Dawkins and his loyal disciples, like yourself, like to do with their spare time, that's all. South Park merely satirized this fact when Richard Dawkins absolutely walloped Mr. Garrison right up the hole. Coincidence? I think not. LOL :)
metalslut1 7 months ago
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Ok thats four times- seriously see someone and talk it out or buy some serious lube and get it over with
Dawkins was using a metaphor you know like jesus did?
Didnt god mentioning spreading his seed on fertile ground rather than stone or thorns? - he was not actually intending the male part of the congragation to knock one out over the church lawn
pinball1970 7 months ago
@metalslut1
somehow metal slut and hard rock music does not go with the sweet love of jesus in my head
You do it different in the states - clearly
pinball1970 7 months ago
@metalslut1 I make the connection because Richard Dawkins likens atheism to a homosexual coming out of the closet in his interview. Richard also hates spirituality and religion in all forms and has not tried to hide it. Richard Dawkins' internalized hate appears to stem from his repressed homosexuality. Just like on South Park, where he pounded Mr. Garrison up the ass, he needs to come to grips with his own sexuality. "Oh yeah Richard, pound my ass like a monkey!" :)
metalslut1 7 months ago
This is one of the few interviews where the interviewer isn't just constantly badgering him. Hitchens got the same nice treatment on the Hour, too.
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@Jotto999 Search - adam deen response to Dawkins - for a great lecture by a Muslim exposing Dawkins.
kupekake 4 months ago
@Jotto999 in other word, one of the few interviewers who is "fair and balance"
sysiphuscorinth 4 months ago
Dawkins gets the shit beat out of him in my video..
So will you if you're an atheist.
You'll have BLIND FAITH alone to parade your
ignorant, unsupportable posturing
WayneLynch69 8 months ago
@WayneLynch69 Really? You have a video of someone beating the shit out of Richard Dawkins? Doubt it.
backwoodsninja 7 months ago
@WayneLynch69 " if you're an atheist.
You'll have BLIND FAITH alone to parade your
ignorant, unsupportable posturing"
Religions require mindless blind faith not atheism
pinball1970 7 months ago
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Modern atheists are like one of the estimated 10 trillion microscopic organisms living inside their guts, strutting around trying to pretend that human beings don't exist, except for infinitely more ignorant. If one wants to embrace worthless superstition, that is their God-granted choice, but don't try pretending around the average truck driver or biker that atheists are anything other than liars of the most extreme and perverse kind. ATHEISM = GROSS SUPERSTITION = BULLSHIT.
richardaberdeen 8 months ago
Scientists are hardly helped when one of their champions immerses himself in the emollient of his own enthusiasm...He is as responsive to criticism as a black hole in space. He has remarked, "if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution that person is ignorant, stupid or insane."..These comical declarations may be abbreviated by observing that [Dawkins] is persuaded not only is science a very good thing, but no other thing can be good at all.—David Berlinski, THE DEVIL'S DELUSION
sexyeur 8 months ago
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Jesus came to save atheists from the "spaghetti monster."
One lady asked Dawkins, "What if you're wrong?" Dawkins' classic evasion was to accuse (of course) the woman of being an atheist regarding the "spaghetti monster" (implying he's a believer!) while he's simply an atheist in the Judeo-Christian God. Dawkins applies his atheism like Grecian Formula, and for a few prejudicially-solicited spots of grey, "a little dab'll do ya" to get you back to black and on the highway to hell in no time!
sexyeur 8 months ago
I'm intrigued, will read his book this summer. I hope it's not all rhetoric lacking any factual evidence as he most prominently noted that this would be referred to as "blind-faith." However, I must express my discontent with the following:
"You thought religion might be gone by then""Yea I think I did"
Atheists are a form of religion, despite his arrogant interview, he convinced me I should look into his book. Also, has anyone here looked at the history of science? Hello! Talk about blind faith
lostmyhead 8 months ago
@lostmyhead Don't be stupid! The man is a false prophet! He's an intellectual fraud! Antony Flew calls him out, THERE IS A GOD: HOW THE WORLD'S MOST NOTORIOUS ATHEIST CHANGED HIS MIND. David Aikman, former militant atheist, calls him out in THE DELUSION OF DISBELIEF:WHY THE 'NEW ATHEISM' IS A THREAT TO YOUR LIFE LIBERTY AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. He's excoriated in Dinesh D'Souza's LIFE AFTER DEATH:THE EVIDENCE. He's bitchslapped all over the intellectual world i shit you not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sexyeur 8 months ago
@sexyeur I have to question your use of the word "intellectual" here.
tomchemovara 8 months ago
@sexyeur Depends on who or what you choose to deem "intellectual."
AgowTisro 8 months ago
@sexyeur you accuse me of being stupid for what? And you 'shit me not' about what? About the fact that there are a lot of books written on the battle between science and religion? - meaning you didn't read or understand my comment.
Whatever you're on, keep it away from me! Though, I might take you up on those titles by looking over them during summer as well.
lostmyhead 8 months ago
@sexyeur
And suddenly, the fanaticism shines through Always does in the end.
ExaggeratedElegy 8 months ago
@ExaggeratedElegy you're forgiven, of me. God is another story, you fool. Suppose those in the twin towers of 9/11 knew destruction was coming, like Bush did. Wouldn't they be dragging idiots like you down the elevator shaft for your own good? Kicking your sorry ass down the stairwell because you were too stupid to know better to take a hint...a BLARING hint, like scriptures that say the Jesus history professes to is coming back, and not as your suffering servant.
Perhaps you should die? tsk
sexyeur 6 months ago
@sexyeur
I love those who with ome breath proclaim God to be perfect, divine and incomprehensible to human intelligence, yet with the next breath will demonstrate the utter insanity of telling you what said entity thinks, feels, desires, demands. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so moronically, knuckle draggingly dangerous. Also, the fact that your psrticularly crude and barbaric ideology relies upon threats and promises in order to sustain itself demonstrates quite clearly its utter lack...
ExaggeratedElegy 6 months ago
@sexyeur
...of substance. A kind of "Emperor's New Clothes" situation to anyone with the least amount of integrity or critical faculty.
ExaggeratedElegy 6 months ago
@ExaggeratedElegy do you mumble to yourself? You think, God isn't real and so hell not either while you deceive yourself and coddle yourself that you're in a "bigger" crowd. Well, soon enough, your life will end, and perhaps you will know then what even many 'Xstians' have been trying to tell you: Fear God Who has the power to destroy your soul! You were made for God's good pleasure, not your blind 'self-assurance'! GOD made ALL things, NOT 'science' even hell for the ungodly. REPENT!!!
sexyeur 5 months ago
@sexyeur
Yay!
ExaggeratedElegy 5 months ago
Not gonna lie Id be kinda scared to buy and read his book.....I guess I cant handle the truth
tcoom76 8 months ago
@tcoom76
you're a retard
nimrooo 8 months ago
Dawkins has so many haters, but even so many years after the book comes out, not one will actually stand up and prove him wrong. You can bet they would if they could.
Ozzyman200 8 months ago 2
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we will have victory . and the devil and all of his children will be no more . they will be whiped from the earth . no more will we have to here there stinking lies . dirty cursed mouths . they have chose not only to not follow God . i can understand a man that finds it hard to live that strait life that God wants him to live . but to go to war with God . now thats another story . WHO CAN STAND AGAINST GOD ON HIS GREAT DAY . WHEN HE SAY TIME IS UP . WHO WILL BE ABLE TO STAND ?
thinkalott33 8 months ago
2:35 is the start of part 2 if people watched the other part 1 that wasnt uploaded by the same guy. thumbs so people know
321seb 9 months ago 117
@321seb Thank you!! haha.
miashalala 7 months ago
Good interviewer.
Dgen717 9 months ago 2
Statistics show that religiosity is actually very good for our later life well-being believe or not. Religion also has a lot of positive aspects, more positive in my opinion. Perhaps the negative aspects exist only when people twist scripture and use it out of context to excuse killing people, starting war and judging people right and left. Sadly, this corruption has happened in Christianity, Judaism and Islam
smile2thehighest 9 months ago
. If you were to live a life by the 10 commandments it would benefit you and everyone around you.
smile2thehighest 9 months ago
@smile2thehighest true, but doesnt it worry you that 4 of those are just god saying "you will love only me, no one, else, worship me on the sabbath, dont make models of anyone else". that hints at a god that is a little jelous, no?
however im just being light hearted, i do agree. commandments 5-10 are ways that you should live your life. although i like to think that people should know that without having to be told it by the bible first. :)
321seb 9 months ago
@321seb I actually don't see anything wrong about this type of jealousy. I hope your not thinking psycho-ex jealousy when you think of a jealous god. God won't strike you down with lightning if he sees you worshiping another God. The abrahamic religions focus on free will so God can't force you to follow him. Instead it is one who decides which path to follow and it's more of he doesn't want you to go astray from his word. If you go against God you go against yourself and others.
smile2thehighest 8 months ago
It's kind of idealistic to think that people are born with strong moral convictions. I don't want to discuss nature vs nurture but we pretty much learn right from wrong. I'm sure survival of the fittest was the moral motto to live by once don't you think so? I'm not saying we are born without a conscience but can we agree that growing up mom encourages you not to steal, not because you're going to end up(consequences) in jail but because it is morally wrong(selfish/unfair).
smile2thehighest 8 months ago
@smile2thehighest "survivor of the fittest" never meant that to all others be damned. We worked in communities before language existed. We would never have survived and thrived otherwise as a species. If we were to ignore the needs or safety of those in our tribes or families then we were ourselves doomed. We were always raised in high oxytocin environments where nature allowed as in we were close to people, contact was strong and empathy would be a nurtured quality, not decreed by a 'god'
coleruamusic 8 months ago
@coleruamusic Well just took a class about the coming of religion and how it evolved. Basically if something stops having a purpose it seizes to exist. Apparently religion has a purpose. Secular studies have shown that it is good for your well-being etc anyway you can research that yourself. But anyway even though we did work in communities do you actually believe that nothing illegal like rape and stealing ever happened? If you're the toughest guy in the group, who could stop you?
smile2thehighest 7 months ago
@smile2thehighest
Yes, religion is a very interesting subject in terms of human evolution and the need for early humans to use it to help explain what they couldn't. In fact you are right that religion can be beneficial to people (all religions the exact same) just like how a placebo works so long as you are getting it from someone you believe to have the power to do something like a doctor or a religious leader. There is actually a part of the brain that responds to religion and meditation
coleruamusic 7 months ago
@smile2thehighest
As for the rape and stealing, I'm not sure what I said to make you think I was suggesting that they didn't happen. But religion didn't stop them either so I'm not sure why you mention it. As for if someone would stop a bigger guy raping or killing? People have tried and succeeded/failed to stop people before as well as being chickens and ignoring it but again, it happens where there is and isn't religion.
coleruamusic 7 months ago
@coleruamusic Simply because religion helps people, you think it is true. However, comfort does not provide evidence that any of its claims are true.
PhysicalsimForever 7 months ago 16
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figbat1 6 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever
Religion also causes a lot of problems and conflicts and discrimination.
All those people could also be helped without religion.
GoldenCrusader93 4 months ago
@GoldenCrusader93 start helping then.
jonathan305wilson 4 months ago
@jonathan305wilson
i already do
GoldenCrusader93 4 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever people are just retarded don't even bother trying to reason with them
Triipticz 4 months ago
I'm not saying that people are born without a consious but we definitly learn most of what we now believe to be moral. Growing up I'm sure mom told you not to steal not only because there were consequences (jail-time) but because it was wrong (selfish/unfair). I'm sure once upon a time when our species was new survival of the fittest was the motto of consciensness. Morals come from religion (incl. non Abrohamic).Thankfully we have morals. I still don't think any less of the 10 commandments.
smile2thehighest 8 months ago
@smile2thehighest lol morals don't come from religion, it's the opposite, religions got their morals from the surrounding moral trends at the time. Why do you think the ten commandments don't speak of slavery? And even advocates it later in the bible. Why do you think it is against gays? Morals come in part from genetic dispositions of sympathy, and alot from discussion and reasoning between people. AFTER religion comes and claims as though it always thought like current moral trends
2CSST2 8 months ago
@2CSST2 I had to respond. Morals may originate from man. Since man is a practitioner of religion you cannot separate the one from the other. Slavery, gay-friendliness all that jazz you're talking about is created by man and thus is eradicated by man the same way. As for your comments on slavery, you really can't accuse Jews of advocating slavery, they suffered it under Egyptian rule long before the 10 commandments. Maybe you should touch up on your Hebrew Bible knowledge.
lostmyhead 8 months ago
@smile2thehighest yes he will. every commandment broken = death.
and he frequently intervenes with free will! in the tale of moses after a few plagues the pharoah wants to let the jews be free, god "hardens the pharoahs heart" so he can continue with the murderous plagues to show his power.
God does force you to follow him:
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. Exodus 22:19
im not bashing you man :) if it works for ya then hey, but it's all there in the bible
321seb 8 months ago
It does not equal death.Remember thou shall not kill.These laws are for men not God.God intervened to set them free 4m the Pharoah.But the pharoah chose to let His people go,he didn't have to,he had 2conquer his own pride.Dying is not doom, living a selfish/angry life is.Things sink by their own weight.Eventually someone who drinks will end up in the hospital.Cause&Effect.There are many paths, we choose which pass we want to follow.We doom ourselves.Even in the face of death, the choice is yours
smile2thehighest 8 months ago
@smile2thehighest The ten commandments aren't the only rules only bible. Don't be so selective
kuhj278 8 months ago
@kuhj278 You are right. Love God above all things and others as you love yourself. I think that's an actual summary of all the rules. I think the bible basically tells everyone to be unselfish, so I can see how that conflicts with individualism. I think individualism is something that both athiest and christians have trouble reconciling their lives with.
smile2thehighest 8 months ago
@smile2thehighest Yeah I don't think you've read the entire bible. It says you should kill homosexuals it condones rape, murder, pedophelia, racism and apartheid. Just ask me about any one of those and I'll find the part for you
kuhj278 8 months ago
Thebible is complicated because we are dealing with a book that is historical,contains songs,stories(that didn't happen but have a good moral message)so it's easy to get things out of context if you are not a historical theologian.The bible is seriously like aGIANTsoap opera.People kill,rape,cheat, love,help, betray etc So just because it's in the bible doesn'tmean that you should make the same mistakes they did.On the contrary, learn from them.It is precedent to move forward.Jesus loves all ppl
smile2thehighest 8 months ago
@smile2thehighest It's very doubtful that Jesus even existed because the bible is the only historical source where we hear about him. And that goes for most ''Historical'' events in the bible that they cannot be found in any other historical records wich really doesn't make it a history book. And the stories that are in in that is supposed to teach morals and stuff don't always do that just look at the book of judges and the views that they have on women aswell as leviticus. Get a clue
kuhj278 8 months ago
Dawkins spoke about moral truths..I'm sure they come from religion. He didn't make them up himself. If Dawkins believes in moral truths than he just wants people to believe HIS faith (atheism) of what is good and evil. No so much about evidence. The evidence of religion is that scientifically (biologically) it is beneficial for you. Of course, only a religion of hope, love, forgiveness and peace. Keep ya out of trouble : )
smile2thehighest 9 months ago
@smile2thehighest Actually, he said that he doubts that there is such a thing as a moral truth. But anyway, I think it's reasonable to assert that morality was here long before religion, specifically YOUR religion. So it's a bit cheap saying that Christianity "invented" it. I can assure you that's not where my morality comes from. May I ask whether you think we are above the other animals? And as such we can treat them as we please?
russellrummage 9 months ago
I didn't say which religion invented morality Morality is personal.Dawkins understands that morality is very subjective and if that is the case the whole world is religious in its own way because everyone lives by a creed, things that they believe are right and wrong.However he did state that morals did exist. Sounds a bit Marixist no, he is too a religious fanatic.Yes I think we are,we have language and critical thinking skills and they don't.But no you can't treat them as you please, what?
smile2thehighest 8 months ago
@LockardKevin than it has to validate it, and so I think agnosticism is infinitely more defensible because you can't be *wrong*.
18Iamtheguy 9 months ago
@LockardKevin but I never claimed those things were true or that I believed in them, simply that I can't claim to know whether or not they are true. Obviously evolution overrules creationism, but that doesn't prove religions invalid necessarily. I don't think most religions that have survived this long were simply created without any reason. Agnostics (of the non-theistic/atheistic variety) simply don't know, and I don't think science has done any better to invalidate religion (- Creationism) t
18Iamtheguy 9 months ago
@taffysaur call it what you will, I believe it is a more intellectually sound position than taking either side in any absolute way.
18Iamtheguy 9 months ago
@sebastianbach I'm (non atheistic and non theistic) agnostic by the way.
18Iamtheguy 9 months ago
@18Iamtheguy fence sitting.
taffysaur 9 months ago
@sebastionbach yes in regard to creationism vs. Evolution he wins, but *most* religious people I know don't consider god and evolution mutually exclusive (only stupid people still believe things like Genesis verbatim lol). I went to a religious school when I was younger and they taught evolution in the Biology class. But yes evolution overrules creationism scientifically.
18Iamtheguy 9 months ago
Dawkins is very smart and incredibly articulate (although he is somewhat arrogant), but I don't agree with him 100%. I think Atheism has many of the same pitfalls that religion does (ie it can no more be proven by fact), I think agnosticism is really a more logical as it doesn't claim to know anything that can't be factually proven or disproven (like the existence of a god).
18Iamtheguy 9 months ago
@18Iamtheguy I think Dawkins seeks to disprove religion by disproving the claims of religion regarding creation and evolution. In this respect he does back up his beliefs with science and sustains his position in that way. I would say in this respect he does prov