God Forbid a leader actually take the time to review all available information before making a decision. (sarcasm) My hope is he will bring our troops home and let the Islamic Nations continue to kill themselves.
why do you americans complain so much about what seems to be everything in your country it's bad enough the rest of the world does it, i don't get it. i love your great cars, which your president and government saved. love your women. love your drugs. love your weapons. love your food. and as much as you don't want to hear it you have a decent leader for once clinton and bush were a joke at least obama can finish a sentence. we have john key, leading his way into your wallet more than the future
frankcastle139, yea man the Taliban did the 911 and they are a great threat to US. how can we stop those people, they are so powerful and inteligent?? They can Not even READ!
@jambe1234567 No the Taliban did not do 9-11, not even the U.S. government says that, how bout Al Qaeda. But then again cave man can't change physics for a day.
B. Liberals who claim Obama betrayed them by sending more troops to Afghanistan are retarded. He has to finish the war, he never said he wanted to cut, run, and lose
C.Riddle me this:
If the Taliban gets so much funding from Afghanistan's heroin why don't we burn the poppy fields and plant corn or something?
maybe I'm missing something obvious but if I'm not then the gov't has been
A. if the Taliban comes back to power then Al Qaeda has the exact same home that they did before 9/11. Al Qaeda was outspoken about plans to attack America before 9/11, and they did. They are outspoken about plans to attack and kill Americans now. We have no reason to doubt them, they have not been bluffing before.
How are we going to feel if they do it again? From Afghanistan, again?
The White House responded to former vice president Cheneys accusation of dithering on war decisions by countering that Cheney had not focused on Afghanistan for seven years; the following day, President Obama left for a series of fundraisers in Connecticut and Massachusetts and a weekend golf outing.
If you believe that either of these 'sides' left or right is honest and correct you're full of crap and need to listen to all radio stations and watch all TV shows to prove it. Limbaugh and Beck are just as fucked up as Keith Olberman and they all have americans trusting a 'certain side' like a bunch of stupid sheep. Politicians don't care. They're already rich and don't give a damn about you. And if they claim to be 'Christians' that just as bad as a terrorist. Religious Zealots.
...I wouldnt want to interrupt your partying/campaigning but my suggestion would be to give the General what he needs, because you should assume he knows what he is doing.
...Now, you've been flying across the country doing fundraisers. I'm sure you are reimbursing the taxpayers from your campaign fund! You have delayed sending the troops because you say you won't risk the lives of the additional troops unless it is absolutely necessary. Hey, the troops over there now are dying. The General needs more troops to support and defend the troops that are there....
...President Obama this is your war. General Stan McChrystal, whom you put in charge, has requested additional troops. After McChrystal made a comment to the press you finally found the time to speak with him for about 30 minutes. I believe you were chastising him for his comments to the press. You gave more time to Obermann and Maddow than you gave to the General....
During a visit to a Naval Air Station in Jacksonville on 10/26/09, Obama said regarding troops being sent to Afghanistan, "I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm's way. I won't risk your lives unless it is absolutely necessary."
We are the one's who are doing the chemical dumping. It's a very long story. The US has more chemical waste because of technology and they have to get rid of it somewhere. The original fighting in Afghan/Pak was between the US and Russia in the late 70's. Russia won't let the US use them for a chemical dumping site. You see video's of Afghan/Pak now, it all looks like the desert. There used to be vegetation growth.
Well for starters... the United States got attacked, no one else did. Plus, Australia already sent all the troops we can. Look if you go in it as the majority and succeed then you will get all the glory in victory... catch 22 really.
Actually it is a problem.Several countries have been at war with afghanistan over the years & have all been defeated. It's a winless war.Mountains,Caves,&goats.
We have always helped but after 9/11 our administration decided at the time decided to take over uninvolved Countries,destroy their people,pull their leader out of a hole,and hang him while recording it all on a cell-phone.That's when other countries (France etc.)decided to not help us anymore.Can't say I blame them.I say we leave and let 'em all rot.
I have the solution: Fact: 70% of the Afghan population is Illiterate and 80% of the people live in Poverty. Burn (Napalm) all of the Poppy fields. Just burn and wipe them out. These fuckers economy would die with them. Something is going on with our U.S. Govt. ignoring the Poppy fields. Even Bush ignored this. The dumb bastard attacked Iraq. Completely stupid.
Well poppy seeds are a big cash crop of theirs, you cant just hit them with a big stick and take everything way....then tell me.."ok your own your own. Have a nice day."
Tell us 'Hellno' what your solution is to solving this whole piece of shit that Bush/Cheney got us into. i.e. they wasted our troops invading Iraq and should've wiped out Afganistan including all men,women,children,&goats.I really don't have a problem with that since we did the same thing for Pearl Harbor.What should Obama do?tell me and I'll forward your comments to him.
"Deploy additional troops to secure the election"??? Did he really say that???
I'm soo sick of these wars, ALL THE LIVES LOST and ALL THE MONEY SPENT!
67,000 US Troops in Afghanistan, add 40k and we will have 100k+ troops in Afghanistan. If it's purely to help a country become democratic, then why aren't we deploying a 100k troops to Darfur? Why don't we simply pull all of our troops back and work on preventing terorist from harming our nation?
I'm mean really how many soldiers does it take to increase production by 1000% of the poppy fileds, which the Taliban eradicated in 2000 "TIME-June/2001"?
92% of the world's heroin originates from Afghanistan and is believed to hold street value of approximately $120 billion. But according to the DOD, we've already spent $189B.
maybe we should go tell America you made a big mistake helping the Taliban kick Russia's ass out and now there destroying there own country, because its only known fro drugs production.
Actually the Taliban hate drugs, and when they were in power they cracked down on it. It was only after we totally annihilated them that the people started growing it as a cash crop to help bring money in. Now that the Taliban are growing again they are becoming a problem...they hate ANYONE associated with the west. The North Alliance also helped the U.S kick out the Taliban, dunno where they are now though, they were Muslim's of that country..funny they were called the "north alliance though"
Maybe they hate drugs but doesn't the drug trade $ support a huge portion of terrorist funding worldwide?Tough call but since our stupid Country invented a War on Drugs/'War on Terror (both of which are an intangible & you cannot kill or defeat) shouldn't we just burn their Poppys?Since our govt. (Bush/GOP&Halliburton decided to 'take over' Countries and 'Nation build' this would be the quickest solution to wipe out Afghanistan and 'Win'.No need to waste any more US Lives.
Because Afghanistan was a haven for the Taliban regime, which gave safe harbor to Al Qaeda and Bin Laden. Darfur, at best, is a minor player in terrorism. Recall that we hit Sudan with missile strikes because of their precursor manufacture of potential deadly chemicals, and also because Bin Laden was living there.
The Taliban want to cooperate with the US but need prove NOT HEARSAY before handing over Osama to a 3rd country.You all bomb a PHARMACEUTICAL Factory in Sudan and claimed it to be chemical factory.
You people are well known to be lying to justified wars.
That's why they THREATEN the Afghan farmers. That's why THEY'RE SHOOTING AT OUR SOLDIERS!
We struck a pharmaceutical plant that was making chemicals that could be used to make chemical weapons.
If you think we're lying, then why are you posting on Youtube? It's an American company. Why are you using a computer? It's an American invention. Why are you using the internet? Again, we, America, developed it.
What? The Taliban HATE anyone associated with the west...ANYONE..also anyone who is not of their religion. The North Alliance was helping the US find Osama at the deal of helping them kick out the Taliban. Think you got it backwards. Although after we helped the North Alliance after 9/11 and totally annihilated the Taliban they didn't let us kill Osama because he was looked upon as a god to the people of that country. Osama supposedly fled to Pakistan.
No its not the people from the country hating us, its the extremist that hate anyone who isn't of their religion. The people of the country dont like us being there, who wouldn't. Some troops are assholes and disrespectful, but as for a FACT. The Taliban HATE anyone who isn't of their following. They do public killings to instill fear into the people. The people your talking about are in the middle of the bloodshed, either run into the mouth of hell or run into the claws of reformation. I read.
"Deploy additional troops to secure the election"??? Did he really say that???
The name of the game is control of the regime. Evil is evil, it knows no loyalty and knows no boundry. To justify our presence in Afghanistan over Saudi Nationals, is misguided and the guns behind the grassy knoll, are never clear.
The media manipulation game keeps us divided, open your eyes, and perhaps you'll see it's all a game of smoke and mirrors.
Nothing like sending Christian Pigs to Kill Muslim Pigs right? That's because us Christians have the 'REAL GOD' that makes our Football teams win every Friday nite!! Yes folks, God loves America and Christians more than other peoples/religions. Who told you that?
You cannot have a 'War' against a Religion.There are more Muslims in the world than 'Christians'. And there are a ton of fucked up Christians just as much as insane Mulsim's (not the norm) that will blow themselves up.
I've always supported the troops,even when clinton sent them into bosnia,but I want to see this fucking house negro fail so badly that I must change course.The phoney election of karzai is a good start.
This conversation is about Afganistan who's major market is Heroin (poppy fields) Kuwait,Iran,&Saudi Arabia are the top Oil producers.How could any of this be about OIL? Please explain.
No buddy. We are there to protect the Transcontinental Oil line. We fought side by side with Al Queda in order to protect it against Russia. I suspect Russia and China are who we are protecting it from now.
o.k. I will research and thank you for the input. on a non-political view (staying away from these ultra left/right media lemmings), what is your opinion + I'm open to all. thanks
wow, what a difference a weeks makes. I was saying 'destroy poppy fields' and last night found out that the U.S. CIA is paying Ahmed Wali Karzai and protecting the Afghan Heroin market in trade for terrorist locations.Well, that's about fucked up.I guess Poppy is America's main crop now. It all makes sense now actually.
I'd hate to think what his response time would be if we were attacked in this country again like 8/11......maybe a beer summit first, then unilateral talks with the assholes.....don't forget the UN, and then by 2010, he'll lob a cruise missle or two at them........brilliant!
I think the facts have already been presented and the longer he waits the more Americans die. Either do what your generals tell you, or pull them out, stop this indecisiveness.
19 alleged hijackers successfully defeat a multi-trillion dollar defense system with $10 worth of box-cutters. In response we send 100s of billions if not trillions of the most modern and expensive weaponry and tens of thousands of American troops, yet, we're supposed to believe we haven't whooped a third-world nation's butt?
These crooks are feeding the military industrial complex, securing the poppy fields and securing a route for a oil pipe-line for the oil being stolen "on our behalf".
They have to leave the poppy fields alone right now, because that's how most Afghan farmers make their money.
It should also be said that there have been no more successful terrorist attacks on the US since our operations in Afghanistan. The Taliban comes, then fades, then comes back again, but they are on the wane. And they are on the wane because of our tenacity, training and equipment.
Ya, by that logic we should leave all criminal activity alone right now because thats how criminals make a living in these tough times.
The idea that there have been no more terrorist attacks on the US because of our efforts in Afghanistan is completely invalid.
The 911 truthers can make the exact same arguement since they have had a watchful eye on their suspects since 911, possibly preventing further attacks. Its like saying I haven't been car-jacked again because I bought a gun.
Well, if a potential car jacker saw your gun, and was scared off because of it, then the argument holds.
What terrorist attacks have taken place? If you're talking about Iraq, then I dismiss it. That's WAR. Where in Oklahoma... Alaska, Hawaii, Texas, Florida, Ohio, Idaho, Oregon, etc. have Al Qaeda struck? Where?
We're putting pressure on them, and, when we're able to go into Pakistan, will have finally defeated them.
How would you know that the man who ran away from your car was a carjacker?
And how would you know that he ran away from your car because he saw your gun? Would you use "enhanced interrogations" in order to prove your case?
Just because we have military activity in Afghanistan and Iraq doesn't mean that it is the reason that there have not been any attacks on US soil. There could be other reasons altogether.
Don't forget those military grade anthrax attacks made shortly after 911.
I don't know, but you did bring up the scenario. I just played it out. If he runs without an assault, then there's no real reason to pursue him. Typically this is called preponderance.
To your second point; the HELL IT DOESN'T! How many other jumbo jets have flown into skyscrapers? Answer; none. And the Anthrax attacks have been shown to be a domestic case by a research doctor who had access to labs and bacillus from those labs.
I hate to be the one to break this to you but 911 was an inside job. The evidence is over whelming that the attacks were not conducted the way our government claims. Never before or since have naturally aspirated kerosene fires weakened and completely collapsed three steel buildings, one of which was not even hit by a plane. Never before has a 757 fit through a 18' hole, wings, engines and all, as it allegedly did at the Pentagon. ................
.............. Never before has a airplane vaporized upon crashing into the ground as the plane did that crashed in Pennsylvania. Never before have 19 militia men been able to defeat a multi billion dollar defense system using $10 worth of box-cutters. Never before were Americans expected to believe that torture results in good information gathering, rather than its historical use for obtaining false confessions. .....................
........... Never before did it take over 400 days to begin an investigation into a mass murder. Never before have there been so many unanswered questions regarding a crime, and never before has the government worked so hard to withhold evidence that would prove their involvement.
If you believe the government's account of 911, and if you believe their account of the economic collapse, than you don't know how money is created in the first place. ..........
......... I tell you what, you search long and hard to see how money is created to begin with. A great starting place is a film called "money as debt". Once you see and understand how money is created through the constitutionally illegal collusion of private central banks and our government, you will then understand just how corrupt and deceptive these so called "leaders" really are.
You have got to be the dumbest paranoid fuck-up I've ever come across on Youtube. You're worse than the racist Holocaust deniers! Are you really this much of a paranoid ass? Do you really think millions of service-men, government employees, and private sector workers, bankers and CEOs conspired to create an event of havoc, death and destruction?
Christ almighty, go check yourself into a hospital, and take your friends with you!
I'm not denying the holocaust, it is you who is in denial over our government, involvement in the murder of its own people to justify military action in the middle east. I never said that millions of service-men and government employees worked with bankers to create 911, however, it should be noted that the development of the atomic bomb did employ millions, and was kept secret for over 7 years. Furthermore, most of the people hired to work on the bomb had no idea what was being developed. .
Complete bullshit. My GRANDFATHER was ASKED to work on the Manhattan project, but turned it down because he didn't like all the secrecy.
Your inference, your suggestion, your personal establishment of your opinion as fact, is that 9/11 was "an inside job", and the ONLY WAY that COULD BE TRUE, would be if every service man, every banker, every government employee were keeping it from the general public, you asshole.
So, what? Your grandfather turned down working on the Manhattan project therefore it was not a successful secret project that hired millions? Thats a pretty sorry abuse of logic on your part.
By your logic there can be no secrets kept from the majority of service men? It has to be all service men were in on it or none of them were? Have you ever taken any philosophy courses or critical thinking classes? The reason I ask is because you need to, on account that your arguments suck.
BULLSHIT! The FBI was there helping out with local dig through the rubble for possible survivors, AND digging for clues THE DAY IT HAPPENED. Ditto with the FAA and Air Traffic Safety, you ass.
I believe the 9/11 reports because my COUSIN WAS THERE! He worked in Tower 2, and survived because he was LATE FOR WORK, you asshole. He's traumatized for the rest of HIS LIFE because all his coworkers are DEAD.
What does economic policy have to do with a terrorist attack?
The Justice Department overseas the FBI and other federal law enforcement and an investigative agencies. Do you think they're in on "the conspiracy" too?
FYI, the CIA is prohibited by law to execute operations within US borders. They are a fact finding agency that is overseen since the hearings and reforms of the early 70s. Get it right, jerk.
What kind of world do you live in? If this is such a corrupt place, then why don't you go live like a native in South America or someplace?
Wealth is created by the private sector through the lending of money to create goods and services. The more wealth is created, the more dollars are printed or generated to account for the growth of the economy. THAT'S HOW MONEY IS MADE you DIP-SHIT!
Your imaginary method of money creation is commical. There is more than 10x the amount of debt in the world than there are goods, services and property combined, thanks to central banking. Where are we going to get 9 earths to pay them back? Lookup fractional reserve banking and see how it works for yourself. Its not a "conspiracy" theory it is conspiracy fact.
We don't use gold and silver to back our money anymore. Haven't since 1971. We now use a completely fiat money system. It is totaly unconstitutional as well.
The only reason a dollar has value is because the government has decreed it as the only legal means to paying debt both private and public. Seriously, we use what is called the fractional reserve system of money, look it up. Again "money as debt" is the best intro to the topic I have yet seen, check it out you'll be surprised
You idiot, have you ever taken a basic economics' class? What do you think I just laid out for you in my previous post? WTF does the GOLD STANDARD have to do with anything?
Did I not say that LENDING for the creation of goods and services was the life blood of today's modern economy?
You didn't explain how fractional reserve banking works in your previous post. In fact you said that since Roman times "medieval nobles had coins minted as compensation". I wonder what those coins were made of?
The reason I bring up the fractional reserve banking system is to show you the kind of political animal we are up agianst. They are thieves and liars. Do you think it is a good thing for banks to loan out money they don't have and still collect interest on it?
I'm not up against anything. YOU, on the other hand, live in this perpetual paranoia. You refuse to admit this, and instead look to blame your ills on institutions and events you simply do not understand.
Yes, I do think it's a good thing for banks to loan money and earn interest on it. That's how the economy grows. Loan money so some guy an open up a business, or someone can fix up their home. That's how we grow financially, you idiot.
You may not be willing to acknowledge you are up against something but your rights are being stripped by our government and 911 is the excuse they are using to justify it.
Loaning money is not bad. Loaning money that you don't have to loan is fraud.
I don't know why you think that questioning the official report is paranoid but hey, paranoid little fish grow up to be big fish.
If you believe this is a nation of laws not men, then it is your patriotic duty to question your government.
What rights of mine have been stripped? Fraud; I guess that's why Madoff and others like him are facing heavy sentences. Loaning money that you borrowed is not illegal, but you need to make sure it's paid back!
Questioning is one thing, questioning when you have no clue as to what to question is totally different.
You're mindless. You're an arrogant idiot who's never never taken a single engineering, chemistry, or physics class. Hell you probably didn't even take basic arithmetic.
If I am the arrogant idiot, why do you feel so compelled to attack me personally rather than my arguments?
I never said loaning money that you borrowed is illegal. I said collecting interests on loaning money you never had to begin with is fraud. Madoff will likely get a shortened term due to "health issues" and his wife and kids will get to keep millions in stolen money.
I assure you I have taken the courses you mentioned and many others.
Torture is the process of verifying what the torturer already believes to be true, other wise how would the torturer know when the torturie is telling the truth. Historically torture has been used to obtain false confessions, not to get accurate intelligence. Think Salem which trials.
Torture; it's just some SOB getting his sadistic jollies off of beating some poor sap. At best you can get a half truth from within an hour of beating someone to give it to you. Anything else is just sadism.
What forensic evidence do you have? What witnesses who helped execute and oversee the plan do you have? Have any Pentagon officials or defense industry experts stepped forth? Do you have training in structural engineering, and do you understand the kind of construction the WTC towers had?
The answer to all those is of course a resounding "NO".
A 757 fit into an eighteen foot hole? It didn't need to. It was RAMMED into a BUILDING, you moron!
For forensic evidence and the like, check out a organization called engineers and architects for 911 truth. Their versions as to how the towers were able to fall into their own basements, make much more sense than the government's lack of an explanation. Are you aware that building 7 wasn't even mentioned in the 911 commission report? Hardly a thorough investigation. There is also a retired general named Albert Stubblebine, watch his video. You can find it by typing in "retired general 911"
Give me a break. Mister, I'm a former engineering major. I've studied material science and engineering chemistry. I know exactly how and why those buildings toppled. The WTC used a strut configuration and pulled floors toward the core of the building. When the core was melted by ignited JP5 so went the buildings. Are you really this stupid?
If kerosene could burn hot enough to melt steel, it would would melt diesel engines. Furthermore, if you have ever done any welding you would know that even acetylene doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel without adding extra oxygen. Kerosene fires did not melt or even weaken the red wood tree sized central columns. Besides, building 7 collapsed in the exact same way as the twin towers but no fuel soaked plane hit it. Keep calling me names, you need it since your arguments are weak.
You moron, jets don't burn KEROSENE. They burn a MIX of kerosene and gasoline, that's why it got so HOT. And the fuel ignited didn't need to burn through ANYTHING. It MELTED the metal enough, loosened the bonds to allow catastrophic deformation. It' s called pushing a material beyond both its utility and tensile strength, YOU DUMB FUCK!
Gasoline doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel either. You may also want to look up the term "heat sink". Building 7 was not hit by a airplane, yet it fell into it's basement just like a demolition. What was burning in there to melt / compromise all the central columns at once in it?
You're right, it doesn't by itself. Ignited, and mixed with a catalyst, IT DOES. Heat sink is anything that removes energy from a system, like a fan on a piece of machinery, asshole.
You dumb fuck, the other building collapsed because it's foundation had been ruptured by the collapse of the other building! Are you really this much of a ignorant asshole? Do you know ANYTHING about chemistry or statics?
Answer; "No, I don't", but you refuse to admit this.
So let me see if I understand you. You believe two planes completely destroyed three steel buildings. You believe it is normal for petroleum to burn hot enough to weaken steel to the point of failure, throughout the buildings. You believe a 757 fit through a 18' hole in the Pentagon and that no definitive video exists proving this. Yet it is I who is being unscientific? Building 7 was missing from the 911 commission report but questioning why it is missing makes me paranoid?
Listen asshole, I do believe ramming commercial passenger jets into the WTC brought down the towers. Did you not see the huge orange plume of fire and black smoke? Or was that just something that normally happened every morning at the WTC?
What eighteen foot hole are you talking about? What the FUCK does this have to do with the Pentagon strike?
Yeah, you're the most schizophrenic, illogical fuck-up I've come across. YOU SEEK TO DISPROVE.
Yes, I saw the big orange plume, that is the instant the majority of the fuel burnt. Yes, I saw the heavy dark smoke. Heavy smoke indicates a under-oxygenated, cooler fire, which makes sense since the fire was burning inside a building where it is harder to get a good oxygen supply.
The 18' hole I keep mentioning is the size of the hole in the side of the Pentagon right after the attack and just prior to the roof collapsing. Look it up, I can't be curious for you.
Mister, you may not like what I have to say nor how I say it, but it is FAR MORE REASONABLE than the paranoia bullshit you and other spout off on these websites.
All I heard was "I just got a peace prize, and I'm making a staged propaganda video about sending troops to fight a war in a foreign country" ... I'm just glad that people are finally starting to see through this loser's lies.
The White "House Negro" thinks that he can save his slave master, the Zionist Crusaders from being exterminated in Afghanistan by the Mujahideen. Let it be known, whether you send in your entire Kafir army populations or not, we will continue until we reach Masjid Al-Aqsa, and free all our oppressed brothers and sisters in the world from the filth of the sons of swines and apes of the illegal state of Israel.
Take your time Obama. We understand you are fighting 3 wars, Iraq, Afghanistan & FOX News. So concentrate on the Media/FOX war & take your time on Afghnaistan while our troops remain in danger. We understand you have your priorities.
To think we get nothing out of this war, America sends troops to stop terrorism, knows it most likely will never do a 100% victory, and has to spend billions and all Trolls on the internet can do is say "America fails" "stupid yanks" etc, think its time to say fuck you with a nice :D
We are praying for you Mr. President and for our troops..God please help him to make the right decisions...and protect those protecting us...God Bless America..and help us to return back to you
Civilian development is pretty nice ambition mr. President, but it will come to nothing if there is no security in Afghanistan, so a troop surge may be nessecary as the least bad option.
God Forbid a leader actually take the time to review all available information before making a decision. (sarcasm) My hope is he will bring our troops home and let the Islamic Nations continue to kill themselves.
BelleNex 9 months ago
Oh shit, what have we voted on..
This man is a FRAUD!!
ChoiXeZy 2 years ago
Obama is a fraud. He should be impeached.
JimmyFormerMarine 2 years ago
why do you americans complain so much about what seems to be everything in your country it's bad enough the rest of the world does it, i don't get it. i love your great cars, which your president and government saved. love your women. love your drugs. love your weapons. love your food. and as much as you don't want to hear it you have a decent leader for once clinton and bush were a joke at least obama can finish a sentence. we have john key, leading his way into your wallet more than the future
shaggydvk 2 years ago
Obama is a joke. I hope and pray that he will be impeached before he completely destroys our nation.
JimmyFormerMarine 2 years ago
frankcastle139, yea man the Taliban did the 911 and they are a great threat to US. how can we stop those people, they are so powerful and inteligent?? They can Not even READ!
jambe1234567 2 years ago
@jambe1234567 No the Taliban did not do 9-11, not even the U.S. government says that, how bout Al Qaeda. But then again cave man can't change physics for a day.
GrandChessboard 2 years ago
yea, you are right, and that is the sum of your knowledge.
jambe1234567 2 years ago
Obama is such a fraud....lol
ConservativeRuleinUS 2 years ago
Obama the muderer of Afghan women and children. Hope and change? You lying bastard.
thirdcoastguy 2 years ago 3
B. Liberals who claim Obama betrayed them by sending more troops to Afghanistan are retarded. He has to finish the war, he never said he wanted to cut, run, and lose
C.Riddle me this:
If the Taliban gets so much funding from Afghanistan's heroin why don't we burn the poppy fields and plant corn or something?
maybe I'm missing something obvious but if I'm not then the gov't has been
frankcastle139 2 years ago
A. if the Taliban comes back to power then Al Qaeda has the exact same home that they did before 9/11. Al Qaeda was outspoken about plans to attack America before 9/11, and they did. They are outspoken about plans to attack and kill Americans now. We have no reason to doubt them, they have not been bluffing before.
How are we going to feel if they do it again? From Afghanistan, again?
frankcastle139 2 years ago
Bush did the 9/11 attack so he can give another huge reason why we should go to the middle east and have war..
ChoiXeZy 2 years ago
The White House responded to former vice president Cheneys accusation of dithering on war decisions by countering that Cheney had not focused on Afghanistan for seven years; the following day, President Obama left for a series of fundraisers in Connecticut and Massachusetts and a weekend golf outing.
klim8hokes 2 years ago
If you believe that either of these 'sides' left or right is honest and correct you're full of crap and need to listen to all radio stations and watch all TV shows to prove it. Limbaugh and Beck are just as fucked up as Keith Olberman and they all have americans trusting a 'certain side' like a bunch of stupid sheep. Politicians don't care. They're already rich and don't give a damn about you. And if they claim to be 'Christians' that just as bad as a terrorist. Religious Zealots.
rleary1 2 years ago
...I wouldnt want to interrupt your partying/campaigning but my suggestion would be to give the General what he needs, because you should assume he knows what he is doing.
gz1234z 2 years ago
...Now, you've been flying across the country doing fundraisers. I'm sure you are reimbursing the taxpayers from your campaign fund! You have delayed sending the troops because you say you won't risk the lives of the additional troops unless it is absolutely necessary. Hey, the troops over there now are dying. The General needs more troops to support and defend the troops that are there....
gz1234z 2 years ago
...President Obama this is your war. General Stan McChrystal, whom you put in charge, has requested additional troops. After McChrystal made a comment to the press you finally found the time to speak with him for about 30 minutes. I believe you were chastising him for his comments to the press. You gave more time to Obermann and Maddow than you gave to the General....
gz1234z 2 years ago
During a visit to a Naval Air Station in Jacksonville on 10/26/09, Obama said regarding troops being sent to Afghanistan, "I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm's way. I won't risk your lives unless it is absolutely necessary."
gz1234z 2 years ago 2
why are WE always the ones that have to send everybody, have you seen the numbers, how about some OTHER COUNTRIES HELP keep everyone safe, holy crap!
Isawanangel1X 2 years ago
We are the one's who are doing the chemical dumping. It's a very long story. The US has more chemical waste because of technology and they have to get rid of it somewhere. The original fighting in Afghan/Pak was between the US and Russia in the late 70's. Russia won't let the US use them for a chemical dumping site. You see video's of Afghan/Pak now, it all looks like the desert. There used to be vegetation growth.
VenusBlue4u 2 years ago
Well for starters... the United States got attacked, no one else did. Plus, Australia already sent all the troops we can. Look if you go in it as the majority and succeed then you will get all the glory in victory... catch 22 really.
shlubby 2 years ago
Actually it is a problem.Several countries have been at war with afghanistan over the years & have all been defeated. It's a winless war.Mountains,Caves,&goats.
rleary1 2 years ago
We have always helped but after 9/11 our administration decided at the time decided to take over uninvolved Countries,destroy their people,pull their leader out of a hole,and hang him while recording it all on a cell-phone.That's when other countries (France etc.)decided to not help us anymore.Can't say I blame them.I say we leave and let 'em all rot.
rleary1 2 years ago
I have the solution: Fact: 70% of the Afghan population is Illiterate and 80% of the people live in Poverty. Burn (Napalm) all of the Poppy fields. Just burn and wipe them out. These fuckers economy would die with them. Something is going on with our U.S. Govt. ignoring the Poppy fields. Even Bush ignored this. The dumb bastard attacked Iraq. Completely stupid.
rleary1 2 years ago
Well poppy seeds are a big cash crop of theirs, you cant just hit them with a big stick and take everything way....then tell me.."ok your own your own. Have a nice day."
thefa11enn 2 years ago
This fake ass bullshit.
SchizoReader 2 years ago
Obama, DO SOMETHING!!!
HellnoObama 2 years ago
Tell us 'Hellno' what your solution is to solving this whole piece of shit that Bush/Cheney got us into. i.e. they wasted our troops invading Iraq and should've wiped out Afganistan including all men,women,children,&goats.I really don't have a problem with that since we did the same thing for Pearl Harbor.What should Obama do?tell me and I'll forward your comments to him.
rleary1 2 years ago
"Deploy additional troops to secure the election"??? Did he really say that???
I'm soo sick of these wars, ALL THE LIVES LOST and ALL THE MONEY SPENT!
67,000 US Troops in Afghanistan, add 40k and we will have 100k+ troops in Afghanistan. If it's purely to help a country become democratic, then why aren't we deploying a 100k troops to Darfur? Why don't we simply pull all of our troops back and work on preventing terorist from harming our nation?
civusamericanus 2 years ago
I'm mean really how many soldiers does it take to increase production by 1000% of the poppy fileds, which the Taliban eradicated in 2000 "TIME-June/2001"?
92% of the world's heroin originates from Afghanistan and is believed to hold street value of approximately $120 billion. But according to the DOD, we've already spent $189B.
civusamericanus 2 years ago 2
maybe we should go tell America you made a big mistake helping the Taliban kick Russia's ass out and now there destroying there own country, because its only known fro drugs production.
Thegthatkillsall 2 years ago
Actually the Taliban hate drugs, and when they were in power they cracked down on it. It was only after we totally annihilated them that the people started growing it as a cash crop to help bring money in. Now that the Taliban are growing again they are becoming a problem...they hate ANYONE associated with the west. The North Alliance also helped the U.S kick out the Taliban, dunno where they are now though, they were Muslim's of that country..funny they were called the "north alliance though"
thefa11enn 2 years ago
Maybe they hate drugs but doesn't the drug trade $ support a huge portion of terrorist funding worldwide?Tough call but since our stupid Country invented a War on Drugs/'War on Terror (both of which are an intangible & you cannot kill or defeat) shouldn't we just burn their Poppys?Since our govt. (Bush/GOP&Halliburton decided to 'take over' Countries and 'Nation build' this would be the quickest solution to wipe out Afghanistan and 'Win'.No need to waste any more US Lives.
rleary1 2 years ago
Because Afghanistan was a haven for the Taliban regime, which gave safe harbor to Al Qaeda and Bin Laden. Darfur, at best, is a minor player in terrorism. Recall that we hit Sudan with missile strikes because of their precursor manufacture of potential deadly chemicals, and also because Bin Laden was living there.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
The Taliban want to cooperate with the US but need prove NOT HEARSAY before handing over Osama to a 3rd country.You all bomb a PHARMACEUTICAL Factory in Sudan and claimed it to be chemical factory.
You people are well known to be lying to justified wars.
radiohanoi 2 years ago 2
BULLSHIT!
That's why they THREATEN the Afghan farmers. That's why THEY'RE SHOOTING AT OUR SOLDIERS!
We struck a pharmaceutical plant that was making chemicals that could be used to make chemical weapons.
If you think we're lying, then why are you posting on Youtube? It's an American company. Why are you using a computer? It's an American invention. Why are you using the internet? Again, we, America, developed it.
Get lost, asshole.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
What? The Taliban HATE anyone associated with the west...ANYONE..also anyone who is not of their religion. The North Alliance was helping the US find Osama at the deal of helping them kick out the Taliban. Think you got it backwards. Although after we helped the North Alliance after 9/11 and totally annihilated the Taliban they didn't let us kill Osama because he was looked upon as a god to the people of that country. Osama supposedly fled to Pakistan.
thefa11enn 2 years ago
You expect people to sing "happy birthday" when a foreign force invade you country?
Why they hate the west. You need to read more my friend. Not from pro American invasion writers and media.
radiohanoi 2 years ago 3
that's why china had to teach you a lesson for invading cambodia.
rw5791 2 years ago
No its not the people from the country hating us, its the extremist that hate anyone who isn't of their religion. The people of the country dont like us being there, who wouldn't. Some troops are assholes and disrespectful, but as for a FACT. The Taliban HATE anyone who isn't of their following. They do public killings to instill fear into the people. The people your talking about are in the middle of the bloodshed, either run into the mouth of hell or run into the claws of reformation. I read.
thefa11enn 2 years ago
Again someone who forgot about 9/11.....
XekesTV 2 years ago
"Deploy additional troops to secure the election"??? Did he really say that???
The name of the game is control of the regime. Evil is evil, it knows no loyalty and knows no boundry. To justify our presence in Afghanistan over Saudi Nationals, is misguided and the guns behind the grassy knoll, are never clear.
The media manipulation game keeps us divided, open your eyes, and perhaps you'll see it's all a game of smoke and mirrors.
civusamericanus 2 years ago 2
It's like Obama TV - just can't wait to see what he will do next!! He has done so much for peace. I'm just giddy.
lenny380 2 years ago
Notice he doesn't mention Taliban at all. It seems like he is trying to seperate Al-Queda from Taliban and redefine the mission.
rwbazillion 2 years ago 2
the USA WILL SEND MORE TROOPS TO KILL MUSLIM PIGS
tampa50man 2 years ago
Nothing like sending Christian Pigs to Kill Muslim Pigs right? That's because us Christians have the 'REAL GOD' that makes our Football teams win every Friday nite!! Yes folks, God loves America and Christians more than other peoples/religions. Who told you that?
rleary1 2 years ago
we will not loss this war islam well dei out soon
tampa50man 2 years ago
You cannot have a 'War' against a Religion.There are more Muslims in the world than 'Christians'. And there are a ton of fucked up Christians just as much as insane Mulsim's (not the norm) that will blow themselves up.
rleary1 2 years ago
I've always supported the troops,even when clinton sent them into bosnia,but I want to see this fucking house negro fail so badly that I must change course.The phoney election of karzai is a good start.
rw5791 2 years ago
I'm more afraid of North Korea than ghetto ass Afghanistan.
Lets just leave already............
Everyone knows it's for OIL, so why don't these people quit lying to us.
It's about securing our oil interests, and the interests of our allies. Just be honest and say it.
brian8793 2 years ago
All wars are fought over natural resources and security. No one disputes that. What do you think the lie is?
Capt777harris 2 years ago
The lie that it's about "Islam", or that we're out there for "humanitarian aid".
You never once hear a President say exactly why we're in there. Why are we there?
brian8793 2 years ago
This conversation is about Afganistan who's major market is Heroin (poppy fields) Kuwait,Iran,&Saudi Arabia are the top Oil producers.How could any of this be about OIL? Please explain.
rleary1 2 years ago
No buddy. We are there to protect the Transcontinental Oil line. We fought side by side with Al Queda in order to protect it against Russia. I suspect Russia and China are who we are protecting it from now.
Drugs? LOL!
brian8793 2 years ago
o.k. I will research and thank you for the input. on a non-political view (staying away from these ultra left/right media lemmings), what is your opinion + I'm open to all. thanks
rleary1 2 years ago
We can't change anything. Oil is very important. Mankind needs oil. Oil is used for many many other things besides gasoline and crude oil.
Drugs are a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue gained from Iranian, Iraqi, and Saudi oil.
I'm just glad I live in a Nation that has such low gas prices.........
brian8793 2 years ago
wow, what a difference a weeks makes. I was saying 'destroy poppy fields' and last night found out that the U.S. CIA is paying Ahmed Wali Karzai and protecting the Afghan Heroin market in trade for terrorist locations.Well, that's about fucked up.I guess Poppy is America's main crop now. It all makes sense now actually.
rleary1 2 years ago 2
I can make a bomb out of manure. Should I tell cows to stop shitting? LOL
brian8793 2 years ago
Take your sweet time Barry, it's only our soldiers dying over there in the mean time!
StinkingHombre 2 years ago
I'd hate to think what his response time would be if we were attacked in this country again like 8/11......maybe a beer summit first, then unilateral talks with the assholes.....don't forget the UN, and then by 2010, he'll lob a cruise missle or two at them........brilliant!
mjnr7777 2 years ago
Oops.....fat fingers.....9/11.
mjnr7777 2 years ago
Ill get my peace prize and blow those fuckers up...
guslingus 2 years ago
I think the facts have already been presented and the longer he waits the more Americans die. Either do what your generals tell you, or pull them out, stop this indecisiveness.
Rupert5432 2 years ago
Chatsworth, do you work for the Nobel Peace Prize Committee? They would love to have you if not.
Rupert5432 2 years ago
Nobel Peace Prize = More troops to Afghanistan = More Dead People.
Great award. :) Glad Obama & Martin Luther are now grouped. They definitely are equal... :P
theserf777 2 years ago
I have a dream, i have a dream of blowing those fucker's up...
guslingus 2 years ago
More people are killed by illegal aliens each day in the US than in Afganistan ! thats a fact Jack. Many by illegals driving drunk
warrenbattistejazz 2 years ago
Good help them build schools and a strong military.
Omega3chimp 2 years ago
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Omega3chimp 2 years ago
Quite the peace maker - ?
lenny380 2 years ago
Shame on the "anti-war" left.
VictoryCough 2 years ago
19 alleged hijackers successfully defeat a multi-trillion dollar defense system with $10 worth of box-cutters. In response we send 100s of billions if not trillions of the most modern and expensive weaponry and tens of thousands of American troops, yet, we're supposed to believe we haven't whooped a third-world nation's butt?
These crooks are feeding the military industrial complex, securing the poppy fields and securing a route for a oil pipe-line for the oil being stolen "on our behalf".
dlucas90 2 years ago 3
They have to leave the poppy fields alone right now, because that's how most Afghan farmers make their money.
It should also be said that there have been no more successful terrorist attacks on the US since our operations in Afghanistan. The Taliban comes, then fades, then comes back again, but they are on the wane. And they are on the wane because of our tenacity, training and equipment.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Ya, by that logic we should leave all criminal activity alone right now because thats how criminals make a living in these tough times.
The idea that there have been no more terrorist attacks on the US because of our efforts in Afghanistan is completely invalid.
The 911 truthers can make the exact same arguement since they have had a watchful eye on their suspects since 911, possibly preventing further attacks. Its like saying I haven't been car-jacked again because I bought a gun.
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
Well, if a potential car jacker saw your gun, and was scared off because of it, then the argument holds.
What terrorist attacks have taken place? If you're talking about Iraq, then I dismiss it. That's WAR. Where in Oklahoma... Alaska, Hawaii, Texas, Florida, Ohio, Idaho, Oregon, etc. have Al Qaeda struck? Where?
We're putting pressure on them, and, when we're able to go into Pakistan, will have finally defeated them.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
How would you know that the man who ran away from your car was a carjacker?
And how would you know that he ran away from your car because he saw your gun? Would you use "enhanced interrogations" in order to prove your case?
Just because we have military activity in Afghanistan and Iraq doesn't mean that it is the reason that there have not been any attacks on US soil. There could be other reasons altogether.
Don't forget those military grade anthrax attacks made shortly after 911.
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
I don't know, but you did bring up the scenario. I just played it out. If he runs without an assault, then there's no real reason to pursue him. Typically this is called preponderance.
To your second point; the HELL IT DOESN'T! How many other jumbo jets have flown into skyscrapers? Answer; none. And the Anthrax attacks have been shown to be a domestic case by a research doctor who had access to labs and bacillus from those labs.
Get real.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
I hate to be the one to break this to you but 911 was an inside job. The evidence is over whelming that the attacks were not conducted the way our government claims. Never before or since have naturally aspirated kerosene fires weakened and completely collapsed three steel buildings, one of which was not even hit by a plane. Never before has a 757 fit through a 18' hole, wings, engines and all, as it allegedly did at the Pentagon. ................
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
.............. Never before has a airplane vaporized upon crashing into the ground as the plane did that crashed in Pennsylvania. Never before have 19 militia men been able to defeat a multi billion dollar defense system using $10 worth of box-cutters. Never before were Americans expected to believe that torture results in good information gathering, rather than its historical use for obtaining false confessions. .....................
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
........... Never before did it take over 400 days to begin an investigation into a mass murder. Never before have there been so many unanswered questions regarding a crime, and never before has the government worked so hard to withhold evidence that would prove their involvement.
If you believe the government's account of 911, and if you believe their account of the economic collapse, than you don't know how money is created in the first place. ..........
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
......... I tell you what, you search long and hard to see how money is created to begin with. A great starting place is a film called "money as debt". Once you see and understand how money is created through the constitutionally illegal collusion of private central banks and our government, you will then understand just how corrupt and deceptive these so called "leaders" really are.
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
You have got to be the dumbest paranoid fuck-up I've ever come across on Youtube. You're worse than the racist Holocaust deniers! Are you really this much of a paranoid ass? Do you really think millions of service-men, government employees, and private sector workers, bankers and CEOs conspired to create an event of havoc, death and destruction?
Christ almighty, go check yourself into a hospital, and take your friends with you!
Capt777harris 2 years ago
I'm not denying the holocaust, it is you who is in denial over our government, involvement in the murder of its own people to justify military action in the middle east. I never said that millions of service-men and government employees worked with bankers to create 911, however, it should be noted that the development of the atomic bomb did employ millions, and was kept secret for over 7 years. Furthermore, most of the people hired to work on the bomb had no idea what was being developed. .
dlucas90 2 years ago 2
Complete bullshit. My GRANDFATHER was ASKED to work on the Manhattan project, but turned it down because he didn't like all the secrecy.
Your inference, your suggestion, your personal establishment of your opinion as fact, is that 9/11 was "an inside job", and the ONLY WAY that COULD BE TRUE, would be if every service man, every banker, every government employee were keeping it from the general public, you asshole.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Your Grandpa never had a chance to work on The Manhattan Project. That was a "fish story"LOL
brian8793 2 years ago 2
So, what? Your grandfather turned down working on the Manhattan project therefore it was not a successful secret project that hired millions? Thats a pretty sorry abuse of logic on your part.
By your logic there can be no secrets kept from the majority of service men? It has to be all service men were in on it or none of them were? Have you ever taken any philosophy courses or critical thinking classes? The reason I ask is because you need to, on account that your arguments suck.
dlucas90 2 years ago
BULLSHIT! The FBI was there helping out with local dig through the rubble for possible survivors, AND digging for clues THE DAY IT HAPPENED. Ditto with the FAA and Air Traffic Safety, you ass.
I believe the 9/11 reports because my COUSIN WAS THERE! He worked in Tower 2, and survived because he was LATE FOR WORK, you asshole. He's traumatized for the rest of HIS LIFE because all his coworkers are DEAD.
What does economic policy have to do with a terrorist attack?
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Well, if a secretive organization like the FBI or CIA says they thoroughly investigated the aftermath of 911, then it "MUST be true"
I am sorry that your cousin was traumatized for the rest of his life, but that is not evidence for who caused it.
dlucas90 2 years ago
The Justice Department overseas the FBI and other federal law enforcement and an investigative agencies. Do you think they're in on "the conspiracy" too?
FYI, the CIA is prohibited by law to execute operations within US borders. They are a fact finding agency that is overseen since the hearings and reforms of the early 70s. Get it right, jerk.
What kind of world do you live in? If this is such a corrupt place, then why don't you go live like a native in South America or someplace?
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Wealth is created by the private sector through the lending of money to create goods and services. The more wealth is created, the more dollars are printed or generated to account for the growth of the economy. THAT'S HOW MONEY IS MADE you DIP-SHIT!
Capt777harris 2 years ago
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battim 2 years ago
you are fired up over hear. its fun to watch you go at folks
battim 2 years ago
Heh, thanks :)
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Your imaginary method of money creation is commical. There is more than 10x the amount of debt in the world than there are goods, services and property combined, thanks to central banking. Where are we going to get 9 earths to pay them back? Lookup fractional reserve banking and see how it works for yourself. Its not a "conspiracy" theory it is conspiracy fact.
dlucas90 2 years ago
Imaginary? Tell it to the Romans and Greeks who PIONEERED the concept, you idiot.
Imaginary? Tell it to every medieval noble who had coins minted as compensation to pay his armorers, farmers, and craftsmen.
Did you go to school, or did you just wake up one day with a pamphlet from Paranoid Central and begin to read?
Capt777harris 2 years ago
We don't use gold and silver to back our money anymore. Haven't since 1971. We now use a completely fiat money system. It is totaly unconstitutional as well.
The only reason a dollar has value is because the government has decreed it as the only legal means to paying debt both private and public. Seriously, we use what is called the fractional reserve system of money, look it up. Again "money as debt" is the best intro to the topic I have yet seen, check it out you'll be surprised
dlucas90 2 years ago
You idiot, have you ever taken a basic economics' class? What do you think I just laid out for you in my previous post? WTF does the GOLD STANDARD have to do with anything?
Did I not say that LENDING for the creation of goods and services was the life blood of today's modern economy?
BUT WHAT ON EARTH does that have to do with 9/11?
Are you really this schizophrenic?
Capt777harris 2 years ago
You didn't explain how fractional reserve banking works in your previous post. In fact you said that since Roman times "medieval nobles had coins minted as compensation". I wonder what those coins were made of?
The reason I bring up the fractional reserve banking system is to show you the kind of political animal we are up agianst. They are thieves and liars. Do you think it is a good thing for banks to loan out money they don't have and still collect interest on it?
dlucas90 2 years ago
I'm not up against anything. YOU, on the other hand, live in this perpetual paranoia. You refuse to admit this, and instead look to blame your ills on institutions and events you simply do not understand.
Yes, I do think it's a good thing for banks to loan money and earn interest on it. That's how the economy grows. Loan money so some guy an open up a business, or someone can fix up their home. That's how we grow financially, you idiot.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
You may not be willing to acknowledge you are up against something but your rights are being stripped by our government and 911 is the excuse they are using to justify it.
Loaning money is not bad. Loaning money that you don't have to loan is fraud.
I don't know why you think that questioning the official report is paranoid but hey, paranoid little fish grow up to be big fish.
If you believe this is a nation of laws not men, then it is your patriotic duty to question your government.
dlucas90 2 years ago
What rights of mine have been stripped? Fraud; I guess that's why Madoff and others like him are facing heavy sentences. Loaning money that you borrowed is not illegal, but you need to make sure it's paid back!
Questioning is one thing, questioning when you have no clue as to what to question is totally different.
You're mindless. You're an arrogant idiot who's never never taken a single engineering, chemistry, or physics class. Hell you probably didn't even take basic arithmetic.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
If I am the arrogant idiot, why do you feel so compelled to attack me personally rather than my arguments?
I never said loaning money that you borrowed is illegal. I said collecting interests on loaning money you never had to begin with is fraud. Madoff will likely get a shortened term due to "health issues" and his wife and kids will get to keep millions in stolen money.
I assure you I have taken the courses you mentioned and many others.
dlucas90 2 years ago
Because arrogant morons deserve to be attacked. And no, you've taken jack shit for educational courses.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Your full of shit. The more money that is created, the less it's worth.
IT'S COMMON FUCKING SENSE
brian8793 2 years ago
Complete BULLSHIT.
Go check out the FAA's record on commercial traffic crashes. Hell, go check out AIMFAR Paris France, and ask about the history of airline crashes.
What kind of mind numbed bullshit are you soaking up? Who the hell is telling you this crap?
As for torture, I don't believe in it. This is war. Lock the bums in a POW camp until the other side admits defeat. But hey, what do I know?
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Torture is the process of verifying what the torturer already believes to be true, other wise how would the torturer know when the torturie is telling the truth. Historically torture has been used to obtain false confessions, not to get accurate intelligence. Think Salem which trials.
dlucas90 2 years ago
Torture; it's just some SOB getting his sadistic jollies off of beating some poor sap. At best you can get a half truth from within an hour of beating someone to give it to you. Anything else is just sadism.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
You need professional help.
What forensic evidence do you have? What witnesses who helped execute and oversee the plan do you have? Have any Pentagon officials or defense industry experts stepped forth? Do you have training in structural engineering, and do you understand the kind of construction the WTC towers had?
The answer to all those is of course a resounding "NO".
A 757 fit into an eighteen foot hole? It didn't need to. It was RAMMED into a BUILDING, you moron!
Capt777harris 2 years ago
For forensic evidence and the like, check out a organization called engineers and architects for 911 truth. Their versions as to how the towers were able to fall into their own basements, make much more sense than the government's lack of an explanation. Are you aware that building 7 wasn't even mentioned in the 911 commission report? Hardly a thorough investigation. There is also a retired general named Albert Stubblebine, watch his video. You can find it by typing in "retired general 911"
dlucas90 2 years ago
Give me a break. Mister, I'm a former engineering major. I've studied material science and engineering chemistry. I know exactly how and why those buildings toppled. The WTC used a strut configuration and pulled floors toward the core of the building. When the core was melted by ignited JP5 so went the buildings. Are you really this stupid?
Capt777harris 2 years ago
If kerosene could burn hot enough to melt steel, it would would melt diesel engines. Furthermore, if you have ever done any welding you would know that even acetylene doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel without adding extra oxygen. Kerosene fires did not melt or even weaken the red wood tree sized central columns. Besides, building 7 collapsed in the exact same way as the twin towers but no fuel soaked plane hit it. Keep calling me names, you need it since your arguments are weak.
dlucas90 2 years ago
You moron, jets don't burn KEROSENE. They burn a MIX of kerosene and gasoline, that's why it got so HOT. And the fuel ignited didn't need to burn through ANYTHING. It MELTED the metal enough, loosened the bonds to allow catastrophic deformation. It' s called pushing a material beyond both its utility and tensile strength, YOU DUMB FUCK!
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Gasoline doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel either. You may also want to look up the term "heat sink". Building 7 was not hit by a airplane, yet it fell into it's basement just like a demolition. What was burning in there to melt / compromise all the central columns at once in it?
dlucas90 2 years ago
You're right, it doesn't by itself. Ignited, and mixed with a catalyst, IT DOES. Heat sink is anything that removes energy from a system, like a fan on a piece of machinery, asshole.
You dumb fuck, the other building collapsed because it's foundation had been ruptured by the collapse of the other building! Are you really this much of a ignorant asshole? Do you know ANYTHING about chemistry or statics?
Answer; "No, I don't", but you refuse to admit this.
GO GET HELP, you dumbshit.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
So let me see if I understand you. You believe two planes completely destroyed three steel buildings. You believe it is normal for petroleum to burn hot enough to weaken steel to the point of failure, throughout the buildings. You believe a 757 fit through a 18' hole in the Pentagon and that no definitive video exists proving this. Yet it is I who is being unscientific? Building 7 was missing from the 911 commission report but questioning why it is missing makes me paranoid?
dlucas90 2 years ago
Listen asshole, I do believe ramming commercial passenger jets into the WTC brought down the towers. Did you not see the huge orange plume of fire and black smoke? Or was that just something that normally happened every morning at the WTC?
What eighteen foot hole are you talking about? What the FUCK does this have to do with the Pentagon strike?
Yeah, you're the most schizophrenic, illogical fuck-up I've come across. YOU SEEK TO DISPROVE.
SEEK TO EXAMINE, then LEARN something.
Shit head!
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Yes, I saw the big orange plume, that is the instant the majority of the fuel burnt. Yes, I saw the heavy dark smoke. Heavy smoke indicates a under-oxygenated, cooler fire, which makes sense since the fire was burning inside a building where it is harder to get a good oxygen supply.
The 18' hole I keep mentioning is the size of the hole in the side of the Pentagon right after the attack and just prior to the roof collapsing. Look it up, I can't be curious for you.
dlucas90 2 years ago
WHAT THE FUCK DOES AN EIGHTEEN FOOT HOLE HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING????
Goddamn, you have got more shit in your head than a neo-Nazi shoveling shit in an Iowa stable. Pull your head out of your ass!
Capt777harris 2 years ago
For someone who prides himself as being educated, you sure have a limited vocabulary.
dlucas90 2 years ago
Mister, it's more extensive and eloquent than anything you can conjure.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
Wow, that is impressive!
Now see if you can say this aloud five times in a row as fast as you can.
"I AM SOFA KING WE TODD ED"
dlucas90 2 years ago
Mister, you may not like what I have to say nor how I say it, but it is FAR MORE REASONABLE than the paranoia bullshit you and other spout off on these websites.
Go get professional help.
Capt777harris 2 years ago
All I heard was "I just got a peace prize, and I'm making a staged propaganda video about sending troops to fight a war in a foreign country" ... I'm just glad that people are finally starting to see through this loser's lies.
jrtayloriv 2 years ago
we will keep fighting in afghanistan forever unless we send in our troops in pakistan and handle al Qaeda and the Taliban there
bay707area17 2 years ago
dont you think al quaeda would then move somewhere else? Snake byting his tail. What are al quaeda motivations?
mccauley404 2 years ago
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Omega3chimp 2 years ago
The White "House Negro" thinks that he can save his slave master, the Zionist Crusaders from being exterminated in Afghanistan by the Mujahideen. Let it be known, whether you send in your entire Kafir army populations or not, we will continue until we reach Masjid Al-Aqsa, and free all our oppressed brothers and sisters in the world from the filth of the sons of swines and apes of the illegal state of Israel.
TheIslamicEmirate 2 years ago 2
islam is a mongrel cult born in blood,murder,and child rape.i would continue but now i have to go sit on the toilet and squeeze out a mohammad.
exweez 2 years ago
Take your time Obama. We understand you are fighting 3 wars, Iraq, Afghanistan & FOX News. So concentrate on the Media/FOX war & take your time on Afghnaistan while our troops remain in danger. We understand you have your priorities.
barklikeamonkey 2 years ago
Right. that sounds like a very awesome strategy.. its not like afghans care about their homes, right?
DisturbedForever92 2 years ago 2
JESUS IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
777truthseeker 2 years ago
Obama please don't help Israel if they attack Iran we don't need a 3rd war with another middle east country
DemonicGemini 2 years ago
For real change Call 974-409-3274
pozzerbob 2 years ago
To think we get nothing out of this war, America sends troops to stop terrorism, knows it most likely will never do a 100% victory, and has to spend billions and all Trolls on the internet can do is say "America fails" "stupid yanks" etc, think its time to say fuck you with a nice :D
thearmoredfatboy 2 years ago
He needs to hurry up and make his decision people are dieing.
CopperheadTM 2 years ago
Better than rash choices the GOP makes.
Duobitdezo 2 years ago
I feel like he's trying really hard not to smile. Don't get me wrong, I voted for him, but I always feel like he's hiding something.
TheNewHans 2 years ago
We are praying for you Mr. President and for our troops..God please help him to make the right decisions...and protect those protecting us...God Bless America..and help us to return back to you
iamredyforhim 2 years ago 5
All can agree with that......Amen.
mjnr7777 2 years ago
Civilian development is pretty nice ambition mr. President, but it will come to nothing if there is no security in Afghanistan, so a troop surge may be nessecary as the least bad option.
abarzilai664 2 years ago
We hope to make the right decision.
thx
MrGAHAR 2 years ago
If he said no troops during the meetings, he would have said so already. Why hold the news for a couple of weeks?
Decision in 'Coming Weeks' = MORE TROOPS.
If the left goons cant fucking see it. I feel sorry for them.
He even mentioned Pakistan!!!
TheLiberalssuckdick 2 years ago 4