My local alley, 36 lanes, uses the 8270, they run so much faster than the 8230. Although sometimes the 70 doesn't set up a full rack, and when it happens once it's bound to happen in succession.
@htc6600 newer than the 8230s, but still old. The 70s where produced starting in 1962, with the distributor/bin/shuttle redesign coming at the end of 1964. The 70s where produced until the mid to late 80s i believe when the 82-90 came out.
82-70's (not 8270A) was the most insane machines I ever worked on! What a work out! 32 machines running all at once and one mechanic. It was hell! I loved working on them and they were my babies. I thrived on the extreme pressure 82-70 machines gave. Sitting on problems and fixing them was one of the most feel good feelings in the world. Too bad I miss it all for I no longer work on 82-70's.
I still would rather have my amf 82-30. other then the chassis they are easy to work on, they are built like a tank... no plastic parts like the new brunswicks so we don't have to take the lane out of service just ot chance a $0.30 part they charge $50 for.
ack, I just realized the poster of this video was a friend of mine who passed away recently... he was a great mechanic, and I'm sure these machines fascinated him as much as they do us. He was a 70s mechanic in a 64 lane center, and a person I called frequently when I couldn't troubleshoot something on my own. :)
Knowing the electrical troubleshooting 70s require, I cant imagine these. Thats why all 70s control panels have "bin CB" and "distrib cb" because of these beasts :)
@rizash Well said, Wang (as he was known on bowltech) was a great guy. We spoke a lot as well and he was VERY sharp with the machines. He's well missed by many
They HAVE to be early 60s.... Our 82-70s were built in 1968, and they are the "normal" 70s, but I still have to track down LOTS of parts that were not even included in parts manuals dating to 1970 (IE: were obsolete in 1970) for our machines, or find conversion kits they haven't made in 40 years....
For those mainly everyone who has made a comment to date on this video, this was the original 82/70 design by AMF back in 68, it also was the machine that nearly put AMF out of business. The main problem with the machine was the distributor and roll over bin assembly for which they hired an outside engineer to design what would be the models found on the more common 82/70 and later 82/90 machines that you know today, the bin assembly would later be re-designed with the AMF Dura-Bin.
anyone still have a parts book or manual for these? I found a picture of some pages, but its small and just as the numbers and not the matching description. I'm interested in seeing how exactly the dizzy and bin assy worked.
my bowling alley has 16 machines exactly like these the amf's their about 47 years old and they cost about 3000 each back in that time. Now they are probably alot more haha
This distributor and bin design looks a lot more complex than the regular 82-70 and 82-90 design. And with most things, keeping it as simple as possible is the best.
I just might construct a homemade version! side question though; What type of flooring is used as to not indent from the weight of the bowling balls?
ecabase 1 month ago
@ecabase most lanes use a synthetic plastic/fiberglass for the lanes. There's a wide variety of options.
Also, you really don't want to drop the ball during your shot, but to roll it off your hands.
Bruins4Evah 3 days ago
My local alley, 36 lanes, uses the 8270, they run so much faster than the 8230. Although sometimes the 70 doesn't set up a full rack, and when it happens once it's bound to happen in succession.
supermonkeyballboy 1 month ago
ythis is settig
janstinpeters 2 months ago
are there still 8270a around yet
kbowlgod300 4 months ago
@kbowlgod300 borring
janstinpeters 2 months ago
i love bowling and ive always wanted to see back there
TheMatthew0614 5 months ago
Just noticed, no pin elevator belt idlers. Wonder if wheel stoppage wasn't a problem. It was on 30's belt tensioners would have been great.
1capdave 8 months ago
Scarey looking! Nice head choppers!!!
dazza3431 11 months ago
Is that the the first 8270 before they changed it?
JklStudiosAwesome 1 year ago
So in the history of AMF, is this a newer machine or an older one?
htc6600 1 year ago
@htc6600 newer than the 8230s, but still old. The 70s where produced starting in 1962, with the distributor/bin/shuttle redesign coming at the end of 1964. The 70s where produced until the mid to late 80s i believe when the 82-90 came out.
Scooter1185 1 year ago
82-70's (not 8270A) was the most insane machines I ever worked on! What a work out! 32 machines running all at once and one mechanic. It was hell! I loved working on them and they were my babies. I thrived on the extreme pressure 82-70 machines gave. Sitting on problems and fixing them was one of the most feel good feelings in the world. Too bad I miss it all for I no longer work on 82-70's.
kerryatgieserco 1 year ago
@kerryatgieserco 52 lanes, split center, full house :D that's fun.
Scooter1185 1 year ago
I still would rather have my amf 82-30. other then the chassis they are easy to work on, they are built like a tank... no plastic parts like the new brunswicks so we don't have to take the lane out of service just ot chance a $0.30 part they charge $50 for.
ratt1134 1 year ago
@ratt1134 the 70's are just as much of a tank. it's the 90's (and Brunswick GS-series) that have the plastic stuff.
Scooter1185 1 year ago
damn.....that is alot different than the brunswick onew that i work behind....
dfeliberty 2 years ago
sure glad they redesigned them ! the current 70's design is awesome.. would still like to see how those machines operate
Gaddy1021 2 years ago
ack, I just realized the poster of this video was a friend of mine who passed away recently... he was a great mechanic, and I'm sure these machines fascinated him as much as they do us. He was a 70s mechanic in a 64 lane center, and a person I called frequently when I couldn't troubleshoot something on my own. :)
Knowing the electrical troubleshooting 70s require, I cant imagine these. Thats why all 70s control panels have "bin CB" and "distrib cb" because of these beasts :)
rizash 2 years ago 2
@rizash Well said, Wang (as he was known on bowltech) was a great guy. We spoke a lot as well and he was VERY sharp with the machines. He's well missed by many
Rep2369 1 year ago
They HAVE to be early 60s.... Our 82-70s were built in 1968, and they are the "normal" 70s, but I still have to track down LOTS of parts that were not even included in parts manuals dating to 1970 (IE: were obsolete in 1970) for our machines, or find conversion kits they haven't made in 40 years....
rizash 2 years ago
For those mainly everyone who has made a comment to date on this video, this was the original 82/70 design by AMF back in 68, it also was the machine that nearly put AMF out of business. The main problem with the machine was the distributor and roll over bin assembly for which they hired an outside engineer to design what would be the models found on the more common 82/70 and later 82/90 machines that you know today, the bin assembly would later be re-designed with the AMF Dura-Bin.
BIGGREENLEAF1 2 years ago
that is quite a different design... even the cups look funky.. never saw parts or diagram for this style
Gaddy1021 2 years ago
anyone still have a parts book or manual for these? I found a picture of some pages, but its small and just as the numbers and not the matching description. I'm interested in seeing how exactly the dizzy and bin assy worked.
Scooter1185 2 years ago
Man... that's a weird distributor, bin, and shuttle setup. Of course, I'm used to the normal 8270 setup, having worked on them for about 5 years.
CoderjoeIsTaken 2 years ago
i wonder how much one costs
ta20335 2 years ago
my bowling alley has 16 machines exactly like these the amf's their about 47 years old and they cost about 3000 each back in that time. Now they are probably alot more haha
Nickk388 2 years ago
weird sound
Cthunderspirit 2 years ago
WOW Thats loud and that i cant hear that o_0
10Kingboy10 2 years ago
Is this a kicker return?
luvsthose8230s 2 years ago
Yes
dtaylor675 2 years ago
Yuck! too mechanical. I'm glad we installed the 91XL's in our house, last June
TexasSteven 3 years ago
When did they stop using midgets?
pugsty 3 years ago
i have never seen these before, arnt they very good or are they just too expensive?
bazareed 3 years ago
very impressive and high tech from the amf 82-30 distributor.
luvsthose8230s 3 years ago
Hmmm.... the distributor is kinda like the ...oh,yeah, the GS-X. Let's see, they copied the deck design and distributor. Did I miss anything else?
parkit56 2 years ago
This distributor and bin design looks a lot more complex than the regular 82-70 and 82-90 design. And with most things, keeping it as simple as possible is the best.
CoderjoeIsTaken 3 years ago
LOL: Brunswick pins in an AMF machine. I've seen AMF pins in Brunswick machines.
Does this machine stack 10 on 10 with a full set on deck?
30 pins in one machine? lol
EdmDude 3 years ago
You think that's funny? AMF owns more Brunswick A-2s then Brunswick itself does.
Seriously, go look it up :)
heavyq 3 years ago
Holy crap what is that??!?! Never seen a distributor like that.
ke3wh 3 years ago
Is that black flap a counter of some sort?
ke3wh 3 years ago
The Japanese version of the 8270 with the shuttle bin is made by Yangji Vision.
parkit56 3 years ago
Looking at his vis, i would have said this is a Chinese copy of an AMF 8270 Spotter, lol
EdmDude 3 years ago
I have never seen an AMF Pinspotter with a Distributor like that ! I worked on several incarnations of the 82/70 when I was younger.
When were these built and for how long ?
vittoriostoraro 3 years ago
Not very many of those around any more.
Toomany10pins 3 years ago