College Truth 1

[Indabaz]

Hate to say it but College is just a building of babysitters. A degree is just something that says; “We watched this person read a book that they could have read on their own”.

Unfortunately you need this to get a “decent” job, because even if you don’t know the job half as well as the man who has been doing it for years, you’ll be hired on at a greater wage.

[DontGoToCollege]

@Indabaz For most careers, a college degree is unnecessary. If you can hustle and make things happen, you will be judged by your results. There are companies who are arrogant and may require college degree or prefer them. Forget about them. With that attitude they may not even be in business for much longer. The world is moving faster now. I'll have some video in the near future that address this very topic. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching!

[veloreb]

I was once told by a former co-worker who had a master's in education that while he was in grad school, there were students in his program who could not do simple algebra (2+y=4, what is the value of y?). Things that make you go Hmmmmm!

[DontGoToCollege]

@veloreb I believe it. I had a friend whose mother was a government school teacher. There were math major teachers who told her they never really understood calculus. There was one teacher who could not tell time on an analog clock. Thanks for your comment!

[Swampymcswamp]

The individuals that entered college over in proximity to the trade school I go to were not self-disciplined like I am so much as just being superficial and glib in their views. Views quasi to witch-hunting and just how mob thinking is. I was reflecting and dialoging about kangaroo courts and Vicious Cycles as food for thought that I have acquired via habitual self-discipline. I'm also certified for business over at the trade school and it did not cost me a dime.

[DontGoToCollege]

@Swampymcswamp College classrooms promote groupthink and conformity. College students are taught to refer to this as "broadening your horizons".

[JeppyWick]

College doesn't sabotage anyone. Some students sabotage themselves by not working hard. I am an electrical engineer and I could never learn this by reading books in the library, I have tried. I would never be where I am today if I didn't put forth the tremendous effort of meeting with professors and tutors daily and frankly, I know more than some people that have worked in electrical their whole life. Sometimes it's good to have a strong base before you build up experience.

[DontGoToCollege]

@JeppyWick College does sabotage people who get a typical B.A. degree and get deep into debt for it. In my first video, I say that except for a few careers choices such as science (which includes engineering), medicine, and law, college is too expensive and not practical. Thanks for your comment.

[lostprophet912]

A few years ago I was studying ( 3 month study program) to get 2 professional licenses. It was amazing how many college graduates could not pass the test and had to be let go. Really made me question the value of a degree. They could get a Bachelor's degree, but couldn't pass a test with their job on the line.

[centurion180ad]

All the American capital was shipped to communist chines, by the Federal Reserve System mafia crooks of Wall Street. Want a high paying factory job? Build one.  Or just try to. The BANKERS don't tollerate upstarts or competition. They'll murder you.

[RavingDissension]

@centurion180ad

Snap the pills in half next time.

[centurion180ad]

@RavingDissension "Blow it out your ass."  --George Carlin

[Shrunkenhead61]

Bringing back the old IQ bit. Everyone is saying high IQ wont get you anywhere but that's exactly what the "Good Will Hunting" skit was about. It's not about your job frying fries, it's about the quality of mind the depth of self and appreciation of the world. Money: it's significant but to have enough to challenge the mind and meet down to earth people is priceless. If a library is free or close to it, why would you go somewhere to verify you sat in and paid more? High IQ people live modestly.

[RSSFeedify]

I've never actually seen Good Will Hunting. Wonder what it's about...

[cramsa]

That shit is too damn true... all the "required classes" my school had students do to graduate is stuff you could have learned from a documentory! How about wasting 2years just to do "required classes" where you don't learn one fucking thing, but the schools get money, and the preditory lenders LOVE the fact you're gona pay more... the longer you take to pay, the more your dept grows. IT'S A FUCKING SCAM!

[HybridD91]

Get some friends and try using Google and a library for free to build a particle accelerator or develop a vaccine. See how far you get and if you finish before a team with Ph.Ds and masters.

[conservative608]

How do you like them apples?

[DontGoToCollege]

@littlenickyn

"People goto college to get hired in their desired field."

Really?

How many Psychology majors are psychologists?

How many English majors are English teachers?

Most people go to college because of social conditioning and pick an easy major that has no relevance to any particular field.

[kmax9480]

@littlenickyn i've never heard so much stupidity in such a short piece of writing. Engineering is god tier and psychology is shit tier. end of story.

[incubusfan32]

@DontGoToCollege

you are so stupid. compare the number of people who have a college degree and have good jobs and the number of people who haven't a college degree and have good jobs. the number is incomparable. to get a good job in today's society you must have a college degree or some college experience. and most of the time a masters degree is needed for certain jobs. so fuck you! im going to college

[kmax9480]

@DontGoToCollege your arguement is invalid. in your videos, you don't tell people to major in subjects that can get you a real job, all you do is bash it as a whole. and so what if students like to go partying on the weekends, make some friends besides your camera, you'll find out what it feels like.

[mjaku91]

@DontGoToCollege im studying psych to be a cop

[prehistoric28]

Did anyone else catch this new book? It's called "You Have A College Degree, Now What?"

[TitaniumByFire]

This guy is using some very exceptional cases, and ones he won't even disclose, which means they could have been made up. He uses movies as an example of how college is lol

[88cec07]

fuck college.

[vanorenstein]

Joe choose Harvard over UMass because he wanted to impress people that he was accepted into Harvard. His mistake was that he paid a whopping $85,000 for a worthless English degree he could have gotten at UMass for $25,000. Now, his monthly payments are close to $1000 a month. At least his prestige is still intact--I'm impressed at his stupidity.

[vanorenstein]

Harvard Alumni are the cause of a lot of the unemployment now in America. I did an unofficial survey of the Wall Street bank upper management and found that the overwhelming majority had either an MBA or a JD from Harvard University. Go figure. The Harvard MBA and JD are brands that will get certain people, not only through but past the door.

[MultiSmartass1]

This video cracks me up! Matt Damon-who plays Will in the movie-is a Harvard drop-out. The point that Will is making in the movie is not that college is worthless but that the student is tied to spewing knowledge solely from the perpspective of his textbooks. While Will-who has read those booksand others-is a critical thinker who prefers original thought and to question what he has read. It is not an indictment of college but of the mindset of a student. How do you like them apples!

[DontGoToCollege]

It's an indictment of the academic mindset of students that believe everything a professor tells them...especially concerning worthless interpretations of literature.

[MultiSmartass1]

Actually, they are discussing history not literature in the movie.

Have you seen the movie? I don't think you have otherwise you would have readily understand my logical and salient points.

Maybe you should rename this video College Lies 1.

By the way, when you actually can read a novel or two and not the cliff notes, let me know.

Interpretations of literature are never worthless but your videos putting down college always are.

[TitaniumByFire]

@MultiSmartass1 Great point, couldn't have said it better. This douchebag who made this video is generalizing, and that in itself is ignorant and misleading.

[MultiSmartass1]

@TitaniumByFire A very smart man! Obviously a college graduate. The host of the video is not only a generalizing douchebag but he is someone who either flunked out, quit or graduated from college with low GPA but high debt and now he wants to take it out by making pussified videos like this.

Its obvious he didn't see this movie because he didn't get the point,

[MegaAvalonn]

@MultiSmartass1

I have to kindly disagree. You have misinterpreted the video clip. Let me tell you, I'm currently writing a fictional novel series and I come across such conversations all the time with any individual that has a Bachelor's degree or above. When I bring up that I'm writing novel and have even earned some money in publications, often college educated people babble on how they read this and that passage from a famous author, they start reciting quotes, etc. Nothing original.

[mjaku91]

@MegaAvalonn funny cause im writing a novel too lol

[amicusnemini]

i thought you were wearing big puffy shoulder pads lol

maybe if i had gone to college i would have noticed sooner that it was the chair behind you

[DontGoToCollege]

That's funny! I do wish I had broader shoulders...but not quite that broad! Thanks for watching.

[freedominsomalia]

i got ripped off 5000 bucks by those stupid ass universities in canada

[rybor03]

I just have to say. you are soooo right on. TOO many people rush to go to college so they can have a "DEGREE". High schools push on who can get into the more competitive school. Whatever happen to...so what are your career goals vs what is your major? I am still finishing my degree but now it is for a purpose...and I am still making more than my friends already with degrees....Thanks man! show the light!

[DontGoToCollege]

I wish you all the best in your career goals. Thanks for your comment!

[Ollieisanarchy54]

I agree completely man. But im curious, what got you so into being anti-college.

Cause I wasent to aganist it until I saw what happened to my friends.

[DontGoToCollege]

Mainly the student loan thing is what got me anti-college. Not to mention the waste of taxpayer money.

[Pentazoid111]

What advice would you give to people who want to learn physics but want to be a professional physicists without attending any college.

[DontGoToCollege]

In my first video "Don't Go To College" I state that except for a few career choices such as medicine, law, and science...college is an expensive waste of time.

The study of physics as a career requires access to several expensive pieces of equipment. So attending a university to get access seems like a better choice than purchasing this equipment.

[Pentazoid111]

yeah , but you can always act as an apprentice by working as a lab assistant in exchange for the professor directng you to learn a task based on the knowledge you acquired from some pertinent subield n physics without paying or tuition just like michael faraday did, father of experimental physics

[DontGoToCollege]

That would be a cool way to do it.

[logloglife]

I laughed so hard when I read this you are so full of shit. If you do that I will pay you an amount equal to my college loans.

[Pentazoid111]

Why is being an apprentice for a professional in your desired field in exchange for teaching youvaluable skills essential for your profession considered 'shitty ' to you

[logloglife]

Firstly, it is apparent to me that "DontGoToCollege" has no knowledge of the realities of being a physicist, therefore I don't want to waste my time, so what is your background, do you actually know anyone who is a physicist or are you just talking out of your ass. There are tons of holes in your argument first off Michael faraday lived in the 1800s when there were not that many universities (there was no requirement for a degree

[Pentazoid111]

If anything , autodidacts have more opportunities from learning off the universe than autodidacts in Faraday's time ever did. Faraday did not have wikipedia, MIT opencourses, or scientists that post demonstrations of their experiments online or access to any of the latest journal articles. If you watch the video more closely, you would see that dontgotocollege said that he thought that people who want to become professional scientists should go to college, but I don't agree with him.

[logloglife]

and the state of physics was much different more accessible since things like specialization werent even an issue) secondly most people will not learn physics well in this manner (whether you want to admit it physics is a much more complicated subject that carpentry which any moron can do) and secondly professional physicists will not devote that much time to compensate a lab assistant, and thirdly and most importantly Michael faraday is Michael faraday one example is not sufficient proof.

[Pentazoid111]

Michael faraday is NOT only one example; Albert Einstein did Not perform so well in his academic studies in college anyway because he slacked off in collegeand he developed special theory of relativity all on his own , well not completely on his own ; Most physicists will not devote their time for a free lab assistant who does not have a BS in physics because that is no currently how the way things are done. Just because Many people like faraday did not go on the same route as him does ...

[logloglife]

You really don't understand lol. First off Albert Einstein did go to university, secondly two examples still qualify as exceptions. Developed it on his own... that betrayed a lot of ignorance. My points still stand for why it is not in a researchers interest to involve himself in the "tutoring" method.

[Pentazoid111]

I never SAID that albert einstein DID not attend college . I clearly said that EINSTEIN did not perform well in his academic studies mainly because he slacked off and he barely passed his qualifying exams. But he continued his physics education even if he did not went directly to pursue his graduate studies right after he completed his undergrad education in physics. I never said he developed special theory of relativity on his own, He clearly borrow the math from Poincare and Lorentze for SR.

[logloglife]

You still haven't addressed my points about why it is extremely unlikely for an apprenticeship type relationship to occur. Also you overlook that some students could derive a lot of knowledge from college but just not do well on tests. Ok more importantly how much physics do you know? Why are you so adamant about not going to a university?

[Pentazoid111]

I told you why an apprenticeship won't work not because it is not feasible, but because of the framework we have currently in place at universities. You are overlooking that some students might perform well in the same on the subject matter but not so well in universsities. Because I am pissed that Everything I learned at the university, I could have learned on the internet or at a well stocked library. But now I am pissed that I have to pay an unnecessary thousand dollars for it.

[logloglife]

A. You did not respond to my reasons why it woul not work. B. If you could learn everything you did at your university from a library you are either lying or your university sucked. Did you graduate, what school did you go to, if it was physics (which I doubt) what went wrong? Did you get bad grades?

[Pentazoid111]

What planet do you live on? Do you really believe that the ultimate source of knowledge can on be derived from a university? No I am NOT lying everything subject that I have learned from, I ultimately learned at a library or on the internet, not from a university lecture hall. I skipped the lectures at my universities most of the time. I did address your question and I offered a solution

[loglogloglife]

You did not address my points and you obviously did not major in physics and have no idea what you are talking about. Your school was probably lowly ranked as well.

[Pentazoid111]

Obviously you are just being a troll . You keep saying that I fail to address your points and I respond by addressing your points that I allegedly did not address. You don't know my background and you are an idiot if you believe that physics can only be learn only at a university. Look around you man! There is information teeming from every direction and not just from a university setting. Besides, no matter what rank, physics at the undergrad level is pretty much the same at every university.

[loglogloglife]

Lol ok "man" tell me your background. I never said only but it is the best way. That last statement is utter bullshit some schools have horrible professors and curriculums. If you won't address my points Im done with you. Enjoy your life but you will never be a physicist.

[logloglife]

Also unlike trade schools intelligence is an important factor, if your iq is below the threshold of around 125-135 and more importantly if you have not done well in math and science classes in high school there is a very good chance you just cant cut it. College performance is a great indicator of how well someone will do in a PhD program, performance there is a great indicator for how well someone will do research, that is why college and necessary and why most physics

[logloglife]

Do you know any physicists? yes or no

[Rockynurse]

@logloglife

IQ is a very poor measure of a persons potential. I have an uncle with an IQ of 105 that has an MD, speaks and writes in 2 languages and earns over 1 mil a year. A buddy of mine works at Ross and has an IQ of 164. My buddy has 2 "baby mamas". =D

The ability to delay gratification is the ultimate measure of success likelihood. As long as we assume average IQ or higher! People with higher IQ's tend to have mental issues.

[DontGoToCollege]

@Rockynurse

"Many highly intelligent people are poor thinkers. Many people of average intelligence are skilled thinkers. The power of a car is separate from the way the car is driven."

Edward de Bono

[visionimagify]

@Rockynurse Wow, ain't that the truth.

[visionimagify]

@Rockynurse It's noted that people with high IQs are mentally disturbed.

[Rockynurse]

@visionimagify

The ones with extraordinary IQ's usually suffer from depression and other various anti-social disorders. Imagine being a person of normal intelligence in the "special" ed class. You wouldn't be able to identify with all the drooling and crying simpletons.

[visionimagify]

@Rockynurse Funny that you mention Special Education. I was part of the Special Ed system ( don't know why I was there ). They never taught us anything, trust me. Everything I learned on my own until I got out at 10th grade. All they do is mind-control and giving the kids low-self-esteem. When I told my teacher I wanted to be a Computer Programmer, she didn't believe me. It's like she was feeling sorry for my somehow. I hated it. Makes not want to go to college.

[visionimagify]

@Rockynurse Not to mention being picked on constantly and constantly every single FREAKin' day. It made me afraid to go to school, so during my junior year, I'd miss a lot of days of school. They didn't tell us we were,"dumb," In our faces, but they sure did by their actions. I didn't care for myself, or my body. Low-self esteem from schooling ruined my life. If I do go back, I'll go back for good career, or the military, but not anything else. Hate schools.

[logloglife]

wont want to waste their time mentoring someone just to realize they cant cut it. It is a process meant to determine who is even qualified to do research. There are exceptions of course but institutions are not built from exceptions. If you want to be a lab technician that way go ahead if you think you will become a physicist that way you are dreaming if you don't believe me try.

[199tinkerbell]

I dont think ''Just a degree'' will get you a nice job and help you ''KEEP'' that job. look at the lines of unmeployed bankers, financial majors and buisness admin folks. Lesson learned, learn math..chemistry...biochemistry­...physics...and more math!

[thegreatestbak]

Are you against going to college because we need more computer programmers, plumbers, and blue collar workers in general? I guess I ask because its hard for me to accept having gone to college for nothing

[Wytchfinde]

It's been said before, but getting a college degree that is geared towards practical application in a field is far better than one that is akin to "liberal" studies. Unless you plan on going into education and becoming a full fledged teacher---and sticking with it.

Both of my degrees are hands on style ones. I won't go back to college unless it's for something pertaining to my field that will help me economically. Outside of that, don't waste your valuable time and money.

[thegreatestbak]

I disagree..

My degree is in Philosophy and Music...both abstract fields that have shaped the way I think. I can get a career in government, advertising, or be a professor.

I think it depends on who you ask, what school, and what part of the country! Too much practical thinking can hamper you in the long run! I dont think many people would care about a diverse range of subjects if they werent forced to learn them in school!

[AllTheGoodNamzWerTkn]

Hey buddy, I like your videos. You definitely make some excellent points. I don't think that it necessarily means that people shouldn't go to college. I also believe that college is a racket. But, it can be a good place to learn if the student is ready to learn and the student chooses a good place to learn based on the teachers.

[traffictragedy03]

lies

[ImNotYourFriend212]

Lol, what's weird is that that guy who played the Harvard guy also played a mentally disabled man with the brain span of a child in OZ. Hmm...

[flukes777]

And the guy wo played the sharp but non-degreed person actually went to Harvard.

[flukes777]

Did you go to college? If you did, what was your planned major? What did you aspire to be when you were young? Assuming you went to college but did not graduate, do you think are better off?

I spent 7.5 years at college (engineering major). I earned 3 engineering degrees free of charge (scholarships, fellowships). I agree college is not for everyone, but it was the best career move I ever made.

[DontGoToCollege]

I was an industrial engineering major. I was in three academic honor societies (2 of them for engineering). Had a year left to graduate with honors and dropped out. I'm still paying for it though. I wish I'd have dropped out sooner but live and learn.

I didn't have the passion to be an engineer per se. It's what the system told me I was good at.

I'm glad you went free of charge. I'm glad that you enjoy engineering.

[flukes777]

But why did you drop out with only a year to go for your degree? Engineering degrees are very versatile, the skills learned are appplicable to many non-engineering careers. Just because you could have earned an IE degree would not have locked you into IE careers exclusively.

[DontGoToCollege]

I really don't think I learned any "skills" in my engineering classes. I worked part-time in an industrial engineering department of a large corporation while in school and hardly anything from the classroom helped me in the job.

[1337Se7eN7]

Will Hunting (Matt Daemon) is smarter than most people though. Not everyone reads a few books and understands the material.

I personally attend college because it's the EXPERIENCE, not the actual words the teachers give. the EXPERIENCE allows me to focus on subjects and take in information. If I go to a library and am able to concentrate on reading, that's great, but I have no proof of doing so. That's where college degrees come in.

P.S. I hope you didn't actually make that shirt with a logo.

[DontGoToCollege]

I hope you don't get deep into debt for your EXPERIENCE.

We are students of words. We are shut up in schools and colleges and recitation rooms for ten or fifteen years, and come out at last with a bag of wind, a memory of words, and do not know a thing.

Ralph Waldo Emerson

[1337Se7eN7]

"man, I love college."

- Asher Roth

Do quotes really do anything? - no.

What have we learned?

[Wytchfinde]

Quotes in themselves don't mean anything.

The wisdom and content of the quote is what makes the difference.

[flukes777]

But Mat Damon really did go to Harvard.

[DontGoToCollege]

He did not graduate...as I understand. He was smart enough to get out like Bill Gates did.

[1XMarksSpot]

@flukes777 but dropped out.

[crappykidforever]

yeah! cyril right?

[dan020350]

i just remembered not architect ..... its engineer school . He claims he owns some sort of robot assembly industry.

[dan020350]

my professor says he knows somebody who have more then 5 degrees and he can't get a job.

[DontGoToCollege]

A professor told you that? What kind of professor is he? Doesn't he know that the more degrees you have the more money you make?

[dan020350]

:) MY professor is a successful entrepreneur who teaches the architect and business school, and claims he never studied architect or business during his college years, but studied physics and history (double major). He was teaching innovation and business plans, and he states he never learn those when he became successful. :)

[waverly2468]

I've gathered from various you-tube videos that Britain, Canada, and New Zealand have corrupt student loan systems like we do. Everybody talks about how you get free medical care in Britain and Canada, but it reflects poorly on those countries that their education costs and student loans are ruining lives. In France you get free medical care and free college--but is it because it's a more socialist system than the U.S.?

[DontGoToCollege]

I didn't know that other countries were scamming students with student loans either.

[Re3volution]

I completely agreed with you when you said, most of the stuff we learn in school we can learn for free in the library!!!! We can thank Benjamin Franklin for that.

[DontGoToCollege]

Hi StoicAgnostic,

Thanks for your comment and your sub.

I'm working on a another video now which I hope to post before tomorrow morning.

[TheStoicAgnostic]

man

awesome channel

haha

I've been trying to inform people on the serious waste of time and money college education is

this is great

[Fonk04]

What created your aversion of education at college?

[DontGoToCollege]

The main thing is that it is a waste of money. Many people like myself are deep in debt for something that should cost so much. Governments, politicians, and student loans companies are are taxing way too much and raising the costs and getting deep in debt so they can have easy jobs at our expense.

They brainwash at an early age to tell us that if you don't go to college you are nothing, you are uneducated, you will always be a common laborer, etc.

[Fonk04]

You dropped out, no wonder you aren't able to make the payments. If you had finished the program, you would've gotten a better job, more money to pay back your loans.

Don't start telling people that they should be against education in general. Your only point is the financial side, which to me, is very hard to understand. I come from a family which would pay for my education, which supports me and where hard work is appreciated.

[DontGoToCollege]

I AM able to "make the payments."

In my last two jobs, I replaced college graduates.

I'm not telling people to be "against education in general".

Education is wonderful. Education is not just sitting in a classroom memorizing inert facts. There are many ways to get an education - not just sitting in classrooms.

It's hard for you to understand just how much colleges are taking advantage of students and their parents because YOU don't live in the USA.

[TheStoicAgnostic]

bullshit

I finished. I have 3 degrees

good, diverse and apparently all useless

college is like a corporation convincing you that a degree will help you but it just helps them

most professors are idiots and a degree is useless so it's way better to educate yourself for free

[thegreatestbak]

Im in the same boat. After 6 years, I have a major and two minor degrees and I refuse to walk because I hated college so much

[logloglife]

What were your majors and what college did you attend?

[Fonk04]

Every Dutch student receives €250 a month from the governement. I'm going to try to get some scholarships, not that I need them, but because I think it's moral to pmy parents.

Finance isn't a problem. A loan which is paid back easily, in the vast majority of these cases, isn't a problem. You probably made some bad choices: Wrong college, wrong education (studies?) leadin to no motivation and then a dropout.

Stop being bitter and let people live their lives without have the need to interfere.

[DontGoToCollege]

Finance is a big problem in the USA college system.

Tell me what is the right college and right "education" for me? I was quite motivated. I was also working part time as an industrial engineering supervisor for a major company while I went to school as a member of two engineering honor societies.

I'm happy. I want people to know the truth. I am not interfering in any one's lives. I want to people to live their own lives without sacrificing them to college and greedy student loan companies.

[Fonk04]

And now I've spent to much time here. I will no longer reply on your video's or check any new ones. I'm sadly dissapointed by your views on the USA education system and your reckless way of working. Unorganized and all you have is a bunch of T-shirts with a logo.

Get smart, than start.

[DontGoToCollege]

I'm sadly disappointed by the USA educational system. As I'm sure you'd be if you knew anything about it.

Everyone's gotta start somewhere. Action always beats inaction. All the best.

[DontGoToCollege]

Government schools have taught you well...grim reap.

[grimreap792003]

You sir, are a moron. Anybody who thinks a college degree is all they need to be successful is an idiot. Anybody who thinks that's what all college students think is also an idiot. Nobody is going to deny that real world experience is important. Two people who have similar experience going for the same job, one has a diploma IN that field, the other doesn't. Guess who gets the job.

[Fonk04]

You are a bad man.

Disencouraging people to follow education is a foul act.

[DontGoToCollege]

Encouraging people to get deep into debt and waste precious years of their lives for a useless degree is a foul act.

It's interesting that you wrote "follow education". I'll soon have a video about how college has become our national religion.