Won't Get Fooled Again

[badboybob1074]

I'm actually more interested as to how the song was recorded. Like if they recorded themselves first then dubbed the synthesizer?

[pipeandslippersman]

@badboybob1074 the band played along to one of pete's pre-recorded ARP tapes. the tape was created for the demo, with pete playing the songs chords through his Lowry organ and then through the synth as described above... the band actually recorded the song once or twice BEFORE the famed 'who's next' version was recorded, essentially live, in mick jagger's country pile called 'Stargroves' by glyn johns. so: well rehearsed, but very live as you can hear in pete and moon's shout at the end!

[TheJoeyEmilyShow]

That is some trippy shit. Trippier than "In A Gadda Da Vida" by Iron Butterfly.

[JustinC721]

Is that an ARP 2500?

[p47paul]

Check out my channel. The guitar player of The Dirty Cricks converted the synth to guitar on Fooled Again. It sounds so cool.

[paulj0557]

Are the negatives are because it cuts off at the end? Thanks for posting anyway, what is this from and where do I go to see the rest?

[Franquay]

Reminds me of Roger Waters demonstrating DSOM on "Classic Albums" reminiscent of that ERA, "We Won't see that AGAIN" !! (intro A Chord) !!!

[sephardimm]

Hey this little blue rack is an vintage Orban 245E mono to stereo converter, which I still own :-)

[danakerman]

It shouldn't be so difficult to recreate with modern digital equipment. The principle is fairly simple: Play block chords on with a regular organ sound and feed the sound into a synthesizer running an LFO which controls a VCA (voltage controlled audio). This will create the "square" shaped tremolo heard, and it can be timed to the 1/8th or 1/16th note, as in the song. The output of that signal can then be fed to a VCF (voltage control filter) for the tone sweep.

[butchstich]

What settings would I look for on say a Roland synth to do a good cover

[xeractus]

Townsend used the synth on other tracks from Who's Next too! "Going Mobile" and "Bargain" for example.

[Smacky52]

Brilliant!

[kb4iuj]

Brilliant stuff ! Pete needs to play MEMPHIS IN MAY with some new material - as in live album stuff !

[muttilo]

In May ? Howbouts play Memphis !!

[funny0000000]

Didn't Richard Wright from Pink Floyd use a synth on "one of these days" before The Who did?

The middle part of "One of these days" has a great oscillating synth

[eltrevoso]

"Who's Next" came out a few months before "Meddle".

And by the way, the synth-like sounds in "One of These Days" are just bass with tremolo.

[RDL1984]

Two AWESOME albums...

[synthtron2000]

it's doesn't provide a rhythm though.

[benturki]

Well it does.. The change of chord accents the downbeats on every bar whilst the pulse is continuos maintaing the the rhythm.

[synthtron2000]

@benturki Not on one of these days it doesn't.

[asm1]

I love this when he starts diddling about "Getting into it"... "all very simple" flicks a switch and its there lol....

[thewho9999]

pete when you coming to edmonton and put on a show when u got electricuted by that mic and u were so mad it  was awesome contact me pete

[thewho9999]

pete townsend will never be the townsend he was then and he knows it too

[funny0000000]

Getting old and drug use does do that to you.

Paul McCartney was never a "drug abuser" and he still makes excellent music.

[phlizmo]

What?! Paul was a huge coke addict during the pepper era..

[Stevesk0011]

he never did coke he just did weed

[phlizmo]

well sir you've never read his biography. He was very much into coke during Pepper and admits it. Besides he did other drugs famously what makes you think a young millionaire bachelor in swinging 1960's London would not indulge in all the culture had to offer? Furthermore, how would you know that he "never" did anything?

[Danimalization]

Well, we as a generation, back when he wrote the song, felt and actually in many ways did live thru a social revolution back then, but in the end not a lot or at least not enough of what really needed to change in our modern western society actually changed. Hence "Meet the new boss same as the old boss" .. that's refering to leadership mainly primeministers and presidents etc staying pretty much the same beholding too much to the rich and powerful etc.

[smokeonthewater85]

this is my fav The Who song. But I really don't understand the exact meaning of the song. I mean wat Roger Daltrey n' Pete Townsend are trying to express in this outstanding song.

[timrprobocom]

It's not that complicated. They saying that, even when you are promised a revolution, things don't really change. "Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss."

[kinneyesq]

I heard Pete explain this on a Story Tellers show. (You might find a clip on YouTube.) He said that it was about not fooling one's self, about getting over the sorts of things that get in the way of growth and learning. The new boss is the same as the old boss because the boss is you.

[rennieallen]

(in the vocal stylings of a certain Tommy Chong)

"Ohhh... wow man... that is sooo deep... So, ...like.. tell me, man... what is smoke on the water about?"

[kinneyesq]

That is almost entirely about smoke being on the water.

[rennieallen]

lol!

[MishuTaste]

Please upload the rest of the video.

[aharambol]

Thanx for posting this video, though it's very short. Have you got more of that interview ?

[johngenzale]

what a jerk

[rcmusic2]

Awesome!!

[ManiacDrummer1212]

pete townshend=jesus.

[Logankeller352]

jimi hendrix=god.

[guns1rose]

Logankeller352=dumbass.

[Logankeller352]

cookies=delicious

[adewolf]

Check out Roger Powell's Cosmic Furnace

[synthisist]

Nice set-up...

[Taraborn]

The synthesizer rocks the way the who used it.

[seantheguitarman11]

okay i dont know anything about synthesizers can anyone tell me how to get this sound from a synth what i need to look for on a synth because i mainly want to play things like this and pink floyd stuff like on the run and welcome to the machine

[AKITM]

Any analog or virtual analog synth can get you the sounds you want. This sound can be made with sine waves or triangle/saw waves run through a 24db low pass filter. But to get that rhythmic effect you have to route a square wave LFO to the amp envelope. Synths are a whole lot of fun and you can even get synths with inputs that you can plug your guitar into and process it with the filters.

I'd be happy to answer any more questions you have.

[seantheguitarman11]

thanks you were a big help im just starting to get into synthesizers but would the microkorg be a good choice

[AKITM]

Yeah, if you don't mind the small keys. It has inputs and is easier to edit than the Alesis Micron. Though I'd personally go for an Alesis Ion, it's a bit more expensive. And sadly they're out of production, so Ebay is about the only place you'll find one.... used.

[Novaheart1998]

Yeah, pretty much you can get a similar sound via sine waves, Pete is not really using the ARP OSC here, he's using an Organ, and running patching it into the ARP. Organs sound sources are basically sine waves anyways... the main difference is an organ is polyphonic but the old ARPS are mono or duophonic... anyways, I'm not a synth guru but I think I'm correct here....

[effectkid]

does any-1 have the full version of this episode

[hammar63]

Watch "classic albums" tv series on 'who are you'.

[AKITM]

I really want to watch this whole episode, but I cant seem to find it anywhere

[rockgirl920]

it'll go on VH1 Classic in a feww days...

[AKITM]

thanks

[heyuncleben]

This is pure fucking insanity.....

[Patzeppelin69]

Where did this come from??

[analoghell]

Read the info box.

[savanadanadana]

been to the Daltrey vs Plant video on youtube?

[madmoses59]

good video thanx man

[loveforkaren]

Does anyone here know if they still make black beautys ? I heard they are good with brandy!(shove that red thumb into your'e ass!)

[JohnnyDepp5115]

I love this song! Pete is so cute!

[BLACKJACKY009]

CSI:MIAMI

[JumpCheckProductions]

you go to hell, you go to hell and you die!

[amorrisseyprodromou]

lol. u sound like mr. garrison

[goeynatto2]

you need to die fist,then you go to hell, but it seems like we are close if we have to sit thru a term with Mcain! How many red thumbs do I get Johny?!

[JumpCheckProductions]

that's funny, I voted for Obama

[por865]

peter looks like a mand but brilliant scientist while playing with those knobs.

[johnrozzo]

an LFO modulates the VCF and another modulates the VCA... pretty neat but fantastic sounding... much more difficult it's to do that Baba O'Riley keyboard part...

[analoghell]

actually, the same LFO needs to modulate the VCF and VCA or else they'd get out of sync. In fact, i suspect, the VCA is bypassed and only the LPF is used.

[llarzelere]

@analoghell either way, it is analog and amazing. Also amazing that 50 zillion digital keyboards out there and NO ONE gets close to the original.

[3mptyLab]

@johnrozzo Actually Baba O'Riley can be emulated with 2 arpeggiators on an average keyboard (I managed to recreate it using my korg triton extreme... I've also uploaded a crappy video made with my smartphone to show the result).

[inricheetos]

That thing looks like a sci-fi prop from some ancient movie from the 70's

[nobodynose]

Pete was an excellent knob-twiddler back in those days.

[Zebonka]

Regrettably, the Classic Album series tends to rely too much on irrelevant gasbagging from talking heads.

"Who's Next" and "Dark Side of the Moon" were pretty good at keeping to the good stuff, but the "Night at the Opera" episode was just full of stuff that didn't need to be in there.

That said, this was an awesome episode.

[amorrisseyprodromou]

i dissagree. i think that "night at the opera" was fine.

[Zebonka]

It was 'fine', but it wasn't 'excellent', which is how I would describe the Pink Floyd episode.

[amorrisseyprodromou]

definetly. pink floyd was the best out of all of them in my opinion. although the who was pretty close

[Nathan59]

Is there any sheet for this tune ?

[santy300]

i think it would be easier you learn it by ear rather than reading it on a paper

[richiecockburn]

100% agree with you mate

[sborges433]

Yeah, thanks - I searched amazon for it. Rather mixed reviews, but very cheap. Ordered a copy.

[santy300]

i recomend you all of the series....they document how lots of grat elbums where made with really interesting interviews to people that was involved in the making of the album....the best ones are this one of who's next, pink floyd's with dark side, and jimi hendrix with electric ladyland!

[sborges433]

What DVD? Isn't this a TV series? The title would help.

[analoghell]

It's available on DVD - Classic Albums.

[sborges433]

WHERE'S THE REST!??!?!!?

[analoghell]

Buy the DVD!

[erixoff]

The WHO and Pete TOWNSHEND, some reasons to make music !!!

Thanx.

[analoghell]

hey loser, please stop being an arse and commenting on my uploads.

[cue1go]

I suggest you disable comments for your video. This is getting pretty nasty.

[jjudijo]

There is NO GREATER rock song written/performed. Saw it live in 76, 80, and 01. A true religious experience.

A real treat to see it's making.

[bassist4141]

whoah that's cool

[mrgpk]

Great Song from a One of the Best Rock Bands

of the 60's, 70's and 80's. The Who Set the

Standard for Hard Rock to Heavy Metal. Long

Live The Who.

[Hugh69]

Hang ups? I got em! RELATE! this is your brain on love!

[LinkBulletBill]

lol, hey what happened to you, im going to higher you by 1 thumb up on each comment... sry, but people when they see this, they laugh and give you thumbs down i came this close to do the same thing or you had nothing to do about this video, oh, by the way!

THIS ROCKS!!!!!!!!! I would love to have an organ like this!

[slamminjamminryan]

Holy shit, sorry about my bad typing.

[slamminjamminryan]

mannn plzzz plzzzz put the full vid up i really want to see the re3st of the intervierw

[FAITHOUSE]

Genius composer, amazing.

[Theakker3]

I always wondered how he made that sound in Won't Get Fooled Again.

[WhenUdecid2LeavYTme2]

kiss

and

thanksomuch! favorited.

[halenfanatic]

Great Album!!

[pilsener300]

when music really matters...those were the times...nowdays even Paris Fuckin' Hilton records an album

[CarLunatic]

i totally agree with you. today's music fucking sucks!!!!!!

[soadaw1]

The Shins and The White Stripes aren't half bad.

[Matalizari]

*Swoon*

[2degucitas]

THANK YOU!!!! I've always wanted to know how he did that. NO WAY he played staccato thru the whole thing!

[MrBusker]

whose the guy in the cardigon at the start?

[hoelt]

Glyn Johns, the sound engineer on Who's Next.

[defone9607]

i'm sure it's mentioned in the film, but my guess is Glyn Johns.

[pfiney]

I Love the Who

[thewho6507]

when did the series come out?can you buy it?and is it in america?

[Anticrombie918]

on vh1, its really cool

[hughtherocker]

you can buy it at borders, targit i think and sams club. you can buy it and all the other classic album dvds pretty much anywhere that sells music movies

[MacXpert74]

Wow this is great! I would love to see the rest of it. Pete has got a really nice set-up there with the rare ARP 2500 synthesizer! Also fun to know that he used the EMS VCS3 synthesizer on the original record. It certainly sounds great!

[blmagic]

I love that song

[MargusKiistheCritic]

Raymond Scott made synth rhytms already in early 60s.

[johnpmahoney]

Great stuff, but am I the only one who doubts Glyn Johns' "first use of a synthesizer to create a rhythm" statement? (Glyn was a brilliant producer but I think he's overreaching with that comment.)

[defone9607]

no, he's right; was simply not done to that extent before Who's Next.

[plugman1963]

i have this on DVD, it called Classic Albums and it's well worth watching. It's basically how Whos Next came to be.

[Zebonka]

I love this DVD. However I reckon this one has way too many meaningless guests, and NO extras.. :( I liked the Pink Floyd DVD better.

But a fantastic effort, and a fantastic album

[Cj1500]

Awsome! Rock on Pete!

[petelady]

Oh yeah!

[spartanassain]

I didnt even hear the song

[19555591]

bitchen synth pete!

[petelady]

YES!

[shannonmillerrox]

i have his cell phone number and i've met him many times.

[major198]

Good for you.

[invaderzimROCKS11]

ShannonMillerRox:

Lies!

[rexroyale]

where's the rest of this? Cheers - well interesting

[1970Dez]

The Who were way ahead of the game - in 1987 we called this sound 'Acid'.

[TrickyTolles64]

the guy is for the ZILLIONTH time...abso-fucking-lutely BRILLIANT!! 

He's made my life better....

I think he was visited by aliens, and they took him to the future...

A total visionary!

THEWHO

LONG LIVE ROCK!!

[groomdoggi]

Aliens?? Wow. Would have been very interesting to encounter you BEFORE PT!

[Batzeba]

Great stuff, thx

[slinkp23]

The guy in the blue shirt is Glyn Johns, producer/engineer.

This clip is from the "Classic Albums: Who's Next" DVD. Tons of great footage on there.

[bigfatspider]

Was just about to ask where this clip is from - now I know !

Will be getting the DVD asap.

[rzezniqq]

The guy in the blue shirt is a lucky XXXXXXXXXXX!

[Fulc]

Required viewing for all Who fanatics.

For the record, that organ was a Lowrey.

[WoodyWise1]

very interesting. thank you for posting!

[rockfan1]

Great vid.

Thanks for posting.

[adewolf]

The ultra rare ARP 2500. Thanks for the vid.