the J-10 is the Israeli " Lavi" that was developed in the early 80's and was superior to the f-16 by its ability to make sharper turns, carry heavier bombs, was more advanced technologically and was to cheaper to produce.
it was sold to china after its project was cancelled because of the refuse of the americans to fund it out of fear that it will replace the F-16.
i hate it when they say that its their home made fighter jet, its a lie.
looks like an F5/F16 rip off with a bit of SAAB mixed in but not as good. Oh and im not a big fan of the F22 ether (liked the YF23 better) but saying this would stand a chance is just dumb
Nothing to compare with the RAPTOR (F22) and the Joint Strike fighter (F35). as for the 23, the only 23 number I remember is the one Michael Jordan wore on the back of his shirt!!!...LOL ignorant's!
@paganjc. I hope you realize that the F35 isn't a fighter, it's a low-altitude strike-fighter aircraft, basicly a multirole aircraft built to mainly fight against ground targets. You can't expect it to be able to get and maintain airsuperiority, it's not as good as the propaganda may tell when it comes to air-to-air combat. Just one thing I want to throw in: The max loadout for the F35 for air-to-air combat using the internal bay is 2(TWO) missiles.
@SoPlEoReD As you have said, its a multi-role fighter plane. the low altitude version is to replace the A-10. But there is a Air to Air combat version set to replace the F-16
@paganjc. I'd hate to be a wise-ass, but the JSF is a stike-fighter and not truly a multi-role fighter. A multi-role fighter is a plane built for air-to-air with capacity to fight ground targets, while a strike fighter is built for air-to-ground with air-to-air capacity. Basicly it means that a strike-fighter will struggle to keep up with normal multirole fighters in air-to-air. I don't question if it's a good plane, I just question it's ability to survive in a air-to-air combat situation.
@SoPlEoReD you mean the internal "bay's" (2) which means the 2 bay's can carry up to 2 missiles per bay not to mention the pylons it can have mounted under the wing and near the wing tip which makes it capable of carrying more payload than the legacy fighters. Do me a favor... Do your research better, read wikkipedia or just go and bother someone else.. unless you have something constructive to tell me don't bother me with your nonsense, contracdictive conversations.
@SoPlEoReD wrong the f-35 has a flight altitude as high as 60,000 feet and the jet now carry's 4 missile inside but Lockheed martin said it will be able to carry 6 missiles inside. I hope you read before you open your mouth.
@nick74178ify. Check the definition of a strike fighter. Sure the data I used were old, it has been upgraded since, but the fact remains that 2 pylons is comparable to nothing, even though you can mount several weapons per pylon. The plane is optimized for air-to-ground attacks and nothing changes that. The plane may have a decent service cieling.. But keep in mind that, that means it's the plane cannot go higher than that. It's designed for air-to-ground attacks and high altitude is redundant.
@SoPlEoReD I think your absolutly right. Seems as if the Chineese are trying to develop the capability to make quick precision strikes on defensive targets. Thats what they would need to make the move on Taiwans ground defenses. Then the second wave right behind them would be thier fighters for controls of the skies. That new plane that has some stealth characteristics has huge payload doors that would most likely be used as a first strike aircraft against ground targets followed by this plane.
Man I hadn't heard this song in forever. The next century will be China showing it's advanced technology and likely its force when America tries to screw them financially.
@Ranganbratschin Alittle. True theJF-17 has better manuevorbility, quicker excelleration. But in technology, I have to give it to the raptor and the 23.
The indian made or still testing after 3 fucking long decades, billion-dollar spent, much bragged about pre-project "55% indigenous" LCA Tejas, wet-&-foggy-weather won't fly multi-role fighter jet, is the BIGGEST joke in all aviation history, EVER!
FC-1 Xiolong or JF17 Thunder is the BEST multirole fighter jet in terms of cost and functionalty in the same class in the world! Brilliant co-operation between China and Pakistan!
1 China doesn't need to spend that much money to make a jet that has greater specs than the F-35. It won't be used. China hasn't had an all out war in AGES.
2 Quantity is not a problem for China. Don't you think China can afford to make a few thousand fighter planes? 1000 fighter planes vs 100. you do the math
3 Copied technology does mean that the specs are known, but what can you do if you know the specs while in the actual plane? Countermeasures? Prepare?
the question is how many can they make? Technology is all Russian copied...that means, they'll never have an upper hand in battles since the specs are known.
So now, the f15 program is being refitted with new engines and instruments, and the f18s are soon to follow.The new life term is expected to be to about 2025.So far NO buyers have come forth for the renamed f35 and Lock-Martin will lose a bundle.DOD is compensating this with new design C130 contracts in the 100s. There have been rumors that f18 design team is offering a design to go forward.This news is expected to break around 2012. I have seen prototypes; similar to SU35.US pilots will like.
@kevingthompson13 Dude, whose koolaide have you been drinking? Where do you get your information? A single seat f18 hornet for the air force? the hornet, all models a through d are for the USN and USMC. The USN also has the e and f super hornets. The YF-22 became the F-22 Raptor and has not been retired. The YF-23 was a prototype that was not chosen. The F-35 looks similar to the F-22 but is not a small F-22. It's an attack plane.
@wllrjstn1 INFO COURTESY OF: US Department of Defense, press release June 2010. I do not listen to SARAH plain and small PALIN. I am connected in this area and pass along info accordingly. By the way, food coloring in kool aid renders it way to toxic for my taste.I'm having enough issues with these ILLUMINATI CHEMTRAILS. Wake up and smell the BUSH.
To finish the story: It started in 1950s and a man named Northrup who believed in a flying wing concept. US purchased several of these designs over the years and all had short service lives.The most famous F17 "stealth" was placed in strategic tactical reserve after only 3 years and became the f117.In 1984 This was the ONLY firm to offer design so DOD had no choice.In 88, F18A was offered & in 91 f18B by separate firm. A is single engine for USAF hornet, B is dual engine for USN superhornet.
in 2007, conducted for and by request of Australia as they were shopping,US f15, f18 B (superhornet), & YF22 +YF23 VS Mig29 & Suchoi35....In 5 days of simulated airbattles, the US scored NO KILLS. US DOD was furious. Famous Russian quote concerning YF22 &23;"It was like clubbing baby seals...". Some respect was offered for f15&f18B that they were formidible, only older technology.FYI if there was any life in this program at that time, that killed it. Program was terminated completely in 2008.
Both of these planes were a REAGAN era propaganda to force other nations to spend billions to supposedly keep up. Believe it or not, but these planes were on cover of Popular Mechanics Magazine in 1984. At time I thought they were something too. The microprocessor in these is only 24mhz. A radio has more than that. It is estimated that nearly 50 redesigns have been attempted. In a famous joint US/Russia drill....see next post
AND TO FINISH THAT THOUGHT...IN A FAMOUS MOVE, the USN Advanced fighter demo team;aka BLUE ANGELS OPENLY refused the YF22. The USAF demo squadron THUNDERBIRDS did also with both 22s &23s. There are some excellent videos on youtube that give full details.THE most prominent aircraft enginner in US failed both these planes from gitgo. He designed f15,f16,f18A& f18B. Found MAJOR problems with the design:"northrup flying wing" ;is HIGHLY UNSTABLE and prone to go uncontrollable at maneuver.
What I notice is that Russia (approx 20 models-mig line and suchoi line since 1980), and China (about 10 since mid 1990s) while the suposed SUPERPOWER U.S. with only 4 since 1986! Tomcats (85) are out of service. This leaves: F15 Eagle (1987), F16 Falcon (1987/88), and 2= dual model F18 Hornet (single engine USAF 1990) / F18 SuperHornet (dual engine USN 1992). YF22 CRAPPER was officially scrapped in 2010. The F35 Lightining=export version of YF22 no one has bought. Kinda makes ya think.....
@chiconspiracy CONSPIRACY? and yet you do not understand....THE ILLUMINATI DOES NOT WANT THE US ARMED. I live here, I know people who design these aircraft and try to fly them. Out of 189 yf 22's built, 90 have been decomed because of severe structural airframe failure. These are assigned to storage for parts. The remaining ones are in strategic tactical reserve. Rainwater corrodes the "stealth" skin and also affects the aerodynamics. F35 is the REPACKAGED YF23. You need to read dude.
Wait... so the F35 is now a repackaged F23 now, and not the F22 like you said before? The f35 may look like a mini F22, but performance wise, is not even close. They never intended the F35 to be an air superiority fighter in the same light.
@chiconspiracy The F35 IS THE YF23. In 1982, US DOD requested advanced fighter program. the YF22 was the twin engine version proposed for USN. The YF23 was the single engine version for USAF. So many structural problems prevailed, that to save the program, the YF22 was sold to USAF. The YF23 also had a vertical jump jet as the harrier was all the rage in 80s. Since both programs were rampant with bad news, the DOD tried rename to F35 to sell abroad. Both programs have been terminated 2008.
not exactly a plastic imitation, but it looks like a bad cross between an f-5, an f-16 and with the f-35's intakes. the main fuselage is DEFINITELY reminiscent of the viper, and i cant really tell will the flashy cuts and angles but those intakes look like theyre cut the same way as the f-35a and f-35c as for f5 influence, im not really sure. its slight but its there... something about the nose... anyway, its not really copying the way we think of it when planes look alike.
@Crypt1cmyst1c a lot of the time a certain plane will be created for a role, and the research that went into making it follows a close logic. to put it simply, just because you and the guy across the room got the same answer doesnt mean you copied each other's tests, ye savvy?
U know we can argue back and forth all we want about the Chinese but the fine print here is that China is growing economically and technologically. And it's just the beginning of things to come. Pretty soon we all better learn to speak Chinese especially the way our government is spending and borrowing money from the Chinese government. And lets not forget that China has the man power and the money. And look at the FJ35 it's too expensive to afford. Think again when u hence "Made in China".
JF-17 is a "MADE IN CHINA' product. chinese products are famous for its quality.lol.it is a copy cat of Russian made RD -93, which china bought from Soviet Union. This cheap Chinese made JF17 does not have latest modified features. Chinese communist regime hates Islamic Pakistan and considering them as slaves but pretending as friends. Because except fool pakis nobody will buy 'MADE IN CHINA' arms. and keeping pakistan as a constant headache for India(China's economic rival)
China is just an Asian version of America, albeit a communist four thousand year old one. Just like in America, China is a melting pot of many ethnics and cultures to form the national identity. Just as the English culture dominates America, so does the Han culture in China. At the end of the day, every country is striving to maintain dominance, so there's going to be stiff competition. I'm hopeful that Ctutulu will come and get rid of Justin Bieber once and for all.
@hmonguru I totally agree with u on this issue. The US may still be on top or atleast that's what we think. But in truth we no longer could really hold our position at the top level. We have too much debts and economic down turns. This country is going broke and it's vice versa with the China. China is growing and thanks in part to the leaders of our country. Big companies and corporation are going to China and that only enriches China's economy further more.
Americans fear China for the Chinese ethnic factor (xenophobia) and stereotypes, but Chinese have no interest in attacking us. Why? We are a piggy bank! They loan us money, we invest in their economy, we are their biggest trade partner. They have no reason to destroy us, and vice versa. Everything is rhetoric. China can easily destroy the U.S. by simply dumping their massive investments in U.S. currency, and our money would become worthless OVERNIGHT. We all just need to get along.
People get mad at the Chinese for reverse engineering things and espionage, but keep in mind that America the Soviet Russia did the same to Germany back in the day! How do you think the space program started? German V2 rocket and its captured scientists! The AK47? The German Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle and its captured scientists! Pretty much everything else was captured one way or another and improved on. China is doing the same. The only thing you can do is fund research to counter this!
It has a sticker below saying MADE IN CHINA...but all BS aside I give them credit. Looks like a reverse engineered U.S. fighter jet. Hopefully they start building spaceships to take crowds to MARS. Maybe they'll hire Americans to build their railways on Mars like we enslaved them long ago. Too shay! Love their food and culture.
LOL... truth be told, they (Chinese) are the best at reverse engineering, and for good reason. They are making up for lost time. China was once centuries ahead of the rest of the world, but was left in the dark ages from failed imperial policies. During Ming times (1400's), they had the world's largest naval armada (look up "Zheng He" in Wikipedia) and could have easily dominated the world. The 20th century was the American century, but the 21st century is the Chinese century.
In the past, Chinese didn't want to dominate the world because they saw themselves as already being the "center of the world". China in Chinese means "middle kingdom" or center of the world. No need to conquer others. This explains why there was no aggressive Chinese invasions of Russia or Thailand, for example. However, I sincerely hope their industriousness is put to use for the Martian exploration and colonization like you joked about, because we need a Mars colony insurance policy badly.
If u're an aviation fan u will sure notice that wing and elevator design is exactly like F-166's one. Even the proportions are same. And only two differences - rudder design and air intakes that are mounted on the side. I used to think this aircraft had nothing in common with F-16 unless I took a really good look at it's separate features like rear part streamlining and wing geometry.
It reminds me Chinese car Chery Tiggo that is a copy ot RAV4 :)
@MrMildtouch23 yet we hire them to make our Levis Jeans? Fire Americans from their jobs and ship it overseas? They make our Apple Computers and dumb ass Americans buy them...along with iPods? I'm at the point where I would be happy looking at a replica of a Mona-Lisa at a Chinese museum if its cheaper.
they have the technology now and they will continue to develope figther aircraft from the word go !! you better watch out america , cause china stole your secrets !!! better than Alien technology !!
well first hting i can tell ya ints not better than our new jets.... its payload is on the outside of the jet which increases drag... our new f 22 payload is inside
@okaaaiiiden - i believe pakistan bought a lot of f16's after they were decomissioned, the rest probably sitting a army wreckyard unfortunatly, being used for parts
@okaaaiiiden- personally the f-16 is my favorite jet... but its eapons and control systems arent as modern, and engine not as advanced or as much thrust...
the f-16 is like the ferrari of jets, small compared to f18, etc. sleek, fast, great visibilty, and overall power to weight ratio, i would rather fly a f16 than this but even i know this is 30 years of newer tech.
@okaaaiiiden lmao i hope its better than the f16, the f16 was developed in the 70's...lol... compare to a modern f22, f35...def. not but still nice i love delta wing fighters
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MADE IN CHINA
This jet has Russian Saturn AL-31 engine.. LOL
Russians are laughing at Chinese copying their Engines and Designs and using it !
forgottenmemories63 1 month ago
wtf with that emo song
sharpiellll 1 month ago
Looks like the technology of the vietnam-era, American F-5. Ancient.
a1m7e7r6ica 2 months ago 2
@a1m7e7r6ica Looks can be deceiving, a weapon doesn't need to "look" cool to kill.
devilhunterred 2 months ago
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all of you discussing about the Quality of the Jet.....why i never heard people discussing the Quality of the Pilot ?
moistfaucet 3 months ago
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moistfaucet 3 months ago
all design aircraft nearly look the same. only America have radical / odd design concept.
moistfaucet 3 months ago
it doesnt matter we the american airforce have stealth fighter jet technogly. The chinese
have none. That means we can destroy all your missle sites before you know even hit you.
TheDegree777 4 months ago
@TheDegree777 didnt the chinese just come out with a stealth recently?
crazyirish77 3 months ago
@TheDegree777 Sorry we Chinese have the J-20 stealth fighter/bomber O_O
hjtjl 2 months ago
Orange flying suit means he is a h*^"** .
leshatful 5 months ago
@leshatful umm...no. An orange suit is standard for most test pilots.
Direwolf56 4 months ago
the J-10 is the Israeli " Lavi" that was developed in the early 80's and was superior to the f-16 by its ability to make sharper turns, carry heavier bombs, was more advanced technologically and was to cheaper to produce.
it was sold to china after its project was cancelled because of the refuse of the americans to fund it out of fear that it will replace the F-16.
i hate it when they say that its their home made fighter jet, its a lie.
youtube.com/watch?v=zWVxFZp-ZLc
djomercohen 5 months ago
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djomercohen 5 months ago
USA needs to buy more jets.
babykevinxoxo 5 months ago
LOL!!! made in China jets? believe me it will fall apart in its maiden flight.
zofronio 5 months ago
looks like an F5/F16 rip off with a bit of SAAB mixed in but not as good. Oh and im not a big fan of the F22 ether (liked the YF23 better) but saying this would stand a chance is just dumb
zebadee277 6 months ago
Nothing to compare with the RAPTOR (F22) and the Joint Strike fighter (F35). as for the 23, the only 23 number I remember is the one Michael Jordan wore on the back of his shirt!!!...LOL ignorant's!
paganjc 6 months ago
@paganjc 23 as in YF23 maybe, 1 sexy plane they did'nt build.. such a shame =(
zebadee277 6 months ago
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SoPlEoReD 5 months ago
@paganjc. I hope you realize that the F35 isn't a fighter, it's a low-altitude strike-fighter aircraft, basicly a multirole aircraft built to mainly fight against ground targets. You can't expect it to be able to get and maintain airsuperiority, it's not as good as the propaganda may tell when it comes to air-to-air combat. Just one thing I want to throw in: The max loadout for the F35 for air-to-air combat using the internal bay is 2(TWO) missiles.
SoPlEoReD 5 months ago
@SoPlEoReD As you have said, its a multi-role fighter plane. the low altitude version is to replace the A-10. But there is a Air to Air combat version set to replace the F-16
paganjc 5 months ago
@paganjc. I'd hate to be a wise-ass, but the JSF is a stike-fighter and not truly a multi-role fighter. A multi-role fighter is a plane built for air-to-air with capacity to fight ground targets, while a strike fighter is built for air-to-ground with air-to-air capacity. Basicly it means that a strike-fighter will struggle to keep up with normal multirole fighters in air-to-air. I don't question if it's a good plane, I just question it's ability to survive in a air-to-air combat situation.
SoPlEoReD 5 months ago
@SoPlEoReD Its not? well proove it..
paganjc 5 months ago
@SoPlEoReD you mean the internal "bay's" (2) which means the 2 bay's can carry up to 2 missiles per bay not to mention the pylons it can have mounted under the wing and near the wing tip which makes it capable of carrying more payload than the legacy fighters. Do me a favor... Do your research better, read wikkipedia or just go and bother someone else.. unless you have something constructive to tell me don't bother me with your nonsense, contracdictive conversations.
paganjc 5 months ago
@SoPlEoReD wrong the f-35 has a flight altitude as high as 60,000 feet and the jet now carry's 4 missile inside but Lockheed martin said it will be able to carry 6 missiles inside. I hope you read before you open your mouth.
nick74178ify 4 months ago
@nick74178ify. Check the definition of a strike fighter. Sure the data I used were old, it has been upgraded since, but the fact remains that 2 pylons is comparable to nothing, even though you can mount several weapons per pylon. The plane is optimized for air-to-ground attacks and nothing changes that. The plane may have a decent service cieling.. But keep in mind that, that means it's the plane cannot go higher than that. It's designed for air-to-ground attacks and high altitude is redundant.
SoPlEoReD 4 months ago
@SoPlEoReD I think your absolutly right. Seems as if the Chineese are trying to develop the capability to make quick precision strikes on defensive targets. Thats what they would need to make the move on Taiwans ground defenses. Then the second wave right behind them would be thier fighters for controls of the skies. That new plane that has some stealth characteristics has huge payload doors that would most likely be used as a first strike aircraft against ground targets followed by this plane.
kwazykilla87 3 months ago
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U Chineses just can't accept the damn facts that your industry product are knock offs.
MrSkycity007 6 months ago
Man I hadn't heard this song in forever. The next century will be China showing it's advanced technology and likely its force when America tries to screw them financially.
brown55061 6 months ago
Nice F-20
wilfredotour2 7 months ago
This thing doesn't have a chance against the f-22 raptor.
544delta 7 months ago
@544delta Have you ever read any basic books on aerodynamics and detection ? Think before posting !
Ranganbratschin 7 months ago
@Ranganbratschin Alittle. True theJF-17 has better manuevorbility, quicker excelleration. But in technology, I have to give it to the raptor and the 23.
544delta 7 months ago
@Ranganbratschin Please clarify exactly about which technology you are talking about ?
Ranganbratschin 7 months ago
The indian made or still testing after 3 fucking long decades, billion-dollar spent, much bragged about pre-project "55% indigenous" LCA Tejas, wet-&-foggy-weather won't fly multi-role fighter jet, is the BIGGEST joke in all aviation history, EVER!
zeeyeezone 8 months ago
Anyone who said this baby is a failure is an indian, a moron or an igorant or all of those!
zeeyeezone 8 months ago
FC-1 Xiolong or JF17 Thunder is the BEST multirole fighter jet in terms of cost and functionalty in the same class in the world! Brilliant co-operation between China and Pakistan!
zeeyeezone 8 months ago
WHAT ABOUT J- 10 SPEED OF 2.2 Mach and J-11 SPEED OF 2.35 Mach.
mfa890 8 months ago
1 China doesn't need to spend that much money to make a jet that has greater specs than the F-35. It won't be used. China hasn't had an all out war in AGES.
2 Quantity is not a problem for China. Don't you think China can afford to make a few thousand fighter planes? 1000 fighter planes vs 100. you do the math
3 Copied technology does mean that the specs are known, but what can you do if you know the specs while in the actual plane? Countermeasures? Prepare?
"A bad worksman blames his tools"
Cheesiestmac 9 months ago
JF 17 is a failure
nurkasih78680 9 months ago
@nurkasih78680 Why ?? Pakistan has lot american fighter jets, Paki compare and know who is better.
Chinese jet all newer version, beside thrust ratio, avionic etc are superiod then old version jet
fdoca 9 months ago
Democratic Socialism is the way foward for humanity
SuperXzample 11 months ago
The gas mask looks sick...
kertaspaper94 11 months ago
the question is how many can they make? Technology is all Russian copied...that means, they'll never have an upper hand in battles since the specs are known.
Microglia1 11 months ago
Try to fukk with this guys US&Jews!
WaffenSSMg42 1 year ago
what is the music ?
LegendsXXboy 1 year ago
@LegendsXXboy Rasmus
WaffenSSMg42 1 year ago
So now, the f15 program is being refitted with new engines and instruments, and the f18s are soon to follow.The new life term is expected to be to about 2025.So far NO buyers have come forth for the renamed f35 and Lock-Martin will lose a bundle.DOD is compensating this with new design C130 contracts in the 100s. There have been rumors that f18 design team is offering a design to go forward.This news is expected to break around 2012. I have seen prototypes; similar to SU35.US pilots will like.
kevingthompson13 1 year ago
@kevingthompson13 Dude, whose koolaide have you been drinking? Where do you get your information? A single seat f18 hornet for the air force? the hornet, all models a through d are for the USN and USMC. The USN also has the e and f super hornets. The YF-22 became the F-22 Raptor and has not been retired. The YF-23 was a prototype that was not chosen. The F-35 looks similar to the F-22 but is not a small F-22. It's an attack plane.
wllrjstn1 11 months ago
@wllrjstn1 INFO COURTESY OF: US Department of Defense, press release June 2010. I do not listen to SARAH plain and small PALIN. I am connected in this area and pass along info accordingly. By the way, food coloring in kool aid renders it way to toxic for my taste.I'm having enough issues with these ILLUMINATI CHEMTRAILS. Wake up and smell the BUSH.
kevingthompson13 11 months ago
To finish the story: It started in 1950s and a man named Northrup who believed in a flying wing concept. US purchased several of these designs over the years and all had short service lives.The most famous F17 "stealth" was placed in strategic tactical reserve after only 3 years and became the f117.In 1984 This was the ONLY firm to offer design so DOD had no choice.In 88, F18A was offered & in 91 f18B by separate firm. A is single engine for USAF hornet, B is dual engine for USN superhornet.
kevingthompson13 1 year ago
in 2007, conducted for and by request of Australia as they were shopping,US f15, f18 B (superhornet), & YF22 +YF23 VS Mig29 & Suchoi35....In 5 days of simulated airbattles, the US scored NO KILLS. US DOD was furious. Famous Russian quote concerning YF22 &23;"It was like clubbing baby seals...". Some respect was offered for f15&f18B that they were formidible, only older technology.FYI if there was any life in this program at that time, that killed it. Program was terminated completely in 2008.
kevingthompson13 1 year ago
Both of these planes were a REAGAN era propaganda to force other nations to spend billions to supposedly keep up. Believe it or not, but these planes were on cover of Popular Mechanics Magazine in 1984. At time I thought they were something too. The microprocessor in these is only 24mhz. A radio has more than that. It is estimated that nearly 50 redesigns have been attempted. In a famous joint US/Russia drill....see next post
kevingthompson13 1 year ago
AND TO FINISH THAT THOUGHT...IN A FAMOUS MOVE, the USN Advanced fighter demo team;aka BLUE ANGELS OPENLY refused the YF22. The USAF demo squadron THUNDERBIRDS did also with both 22s &23s. There are some excellent videos on youtube that give full details.THE most prominent aircraft enginner in US failed both these planes from gitgo. He designed f15,f16,f18A& f18B. Found MAJOR problems with the design:"northrup flying wing" ;is HIGHLY UNSTABLE and prone to go uncontrollable at maneuver.
kevingthompson13 1 year ago
what is this song? anyones know it?
kiponline100 1 year ago
What I notice is that Russia (approx 20 models-mig line and suchoi line since 1980), and China (about 10 since mid 1990s) while the suposed SUPERPOWER U.S. with only 4 since 1986! Tomcats (85) are out of service. This leaves: F15 Eagle (1987), F16 Falcon (1987/88), and 2= dual model F18 Hornet (single engine USAF 1990) / F18 SuperHornet (dual engine USN 1992). YF22 CRAPPER was officially scrapped in 2010. The F35 Lightining=export version of YF22 no one has bought. Kinda makes ya think.....
kevingthompson13 1 year ago
@kevingthompson13
The F-35 is not a "version" of the F22..which was not scrapped by the way.
chiconspiracy 1 year ago
@chiconspiracy CONSPIRACY? and yet you do not understand....THE ILLUMINATI DOES NOT WANT THE US ARMED. I live here, I know people who design these aircraft and try to fly them. Out of 189 yf 22's built, 90 have been decomed because of severe structural airframe failure. These are assigned to storage for parts. The remaining ones are in strategic tactical reserve. Rainwater corrodes the "stealth" skin and also affects the aerodynamics. F35 is the REPACKAGED YF23. You need to read dude.
kevingthompson13 1 year ago
@kevingthompson13
Wait... so the F35 is now a repackaged F23 now, and not the F22 like you said before? The f35 may look like a mini F22, but performance wise, is not even close. They never intended the F35 to be an air superiority fighter in the same light.
chiconspiracy 1 year ago
@chiconspiracy The F35 IS THE YF23. In 1982, US DOD requested advanced fighter program. the YF22 was the twin engine version proposed for USN. The YF23 was the single engine version for USAF. So many structural problems prevailed, that to save the program, the YF22 was sold to USAF. The YF23 also had a vertical jump jet as the harrier was all the rage in 80s. Since both programs were rampant with bad news, the DOD tried rename to F35 to sell abroad. Both programs have been terminated 2008.
kevingthompson13 1 year ago
fuck jets look so cool. and mean
BruisedASScheeks 1 year ago
not exactly a plastic imitation, but it looks like a bad cross between an f-5, an f-16 and with the f-35's intakes. the main fuselage is DEFINITELY reminiscent of the viper, and i cant really tell will the flashy cuts and angles but those intakes look like theyre cut the same way as the f-35a and f-35c as for f5 influence, im not really sure. its slight but its there... something about the nose... anyway, its not really copying the way we think of it when planes look alike.
Crypt1cmyst1c 1 year ago
@Crypt1cmyst1c a lot of the time a certain plane will be created for a role, and the research that went into making it follows a close logic. to put it simply, just because you and the guy across the room got the same answer doesnt mean you copied each other's tests, ye savvy?
Crypt1cmyst1c 1 year ago
Im surprised it's not a plastic imitation of another jet.
OSCAR7893 1 year ago
U know we can argue back and forth all we want about the Chinese but the fine print here is that China is growing economically and technologically. And it's just the beginning of things to come. Pretty soon we all better learn to speak Chinese especially the way our government is spending and borrowing money from the Chinese government. And lets not forget that China has the man power and the money. And look at the FJ35 it's too expensive to afford. Think again when u hence "Made in China".
iceman5815 1 year ago
i love planes
yurihuski 1 year ago
ASSYRIA loves CHINA and RUSSIA
AshurLand 1 year ago
ахаха, "made in china", одноразовый самолет, судя по внешнему виду 3-го поколения. JF-17 THUNDER, THUNDER наверно в стакане!!!
DemiaN1909 1 year ago
JF-17 is a "MADE IN CHINA' product. chinese products are famous for its quality.lol.it is a copy cat of Russian made RD -93, which china bought from Soviet Union. This cheap Chinese made JF17 does not have latest modified features. Chinese communist regime hates Islamic Pakistan and considering them as slaves but pretending as friends. Because except fool pakis nobody will buy 'MADE IN CHINA' arms. and keeping pakistan as a constant headache for India(China's economic rival)
jkabc25 1 year ago
China is just an Asian version of America, albeit a communist four thousand year old one. Just like in America, China is a melting pot of many ethnics and cultures to form the national identity. Just as the English culture dominates America, so does the Han culture in China. At the end of the day, every country is striving to maintain dominance, so there's going to be stiff competition. I'm hopeful that Ctutulu will come and get rid of Justin Bieber once and for all.
hmonguru 1 year ago
@hmonguru I totally agree with u on this issue. The US may still be on top or atleast that's what we think. But in truth we no longer could really hold our position at the top level. We have too much debts and economic down turns. This country is going broke and it's vice versa with the China. China is growing and thanks in part to the leaders of our country. Big companies and corporation are going to China and that only enriches China's economy further more.
iceman5815 1 year ago
@iceman5815
Americans fear China for the Chinese ethnic factor (xenophobia) and stereotypes, but Chinese have no interest in attacking us. Why? We are a piggy bank! They loan us money, we invest in their economy, we are their biggest trade partner. They have no reason to destroy us, and vice versa. Everything is rhetoric. China can easily destroy the U.S. by simply dumping their massive investments in U.S. currency, and our money would become worthless OVERNIGHT. We all just need to get along.
hmonguru 1 year ago
People get mad at the Chinese for reverse engineering things and espionage, but keep in mind that America the Soviet Russia did the same to Germany back in the day! How do you think the space program started? German V2 rocket and its captured scientists! The AK47? The German Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle and its captured scientists! Pretty much everything else was captured one way or another and improved on. China is doing the same. The only thing you can do is fund research to counter this!
hmonguru 1 year ago
It has a sticker below saying MADE IN CHINA...but all BS aside I give them credit. Looks like a reverse engineered U.S. fighter jet. Hopefully they start building spaceships to take crowds to MARS. Maybe they'll hire Americans to build their railways on Mars like we enslaved them long ago. Too shay! Love their food and culture.
rehndawg 1 year ago
@rehndawg
LOL... truth be told, they (Chinese) are the best at reverse engineering, and for good reason. They are making up for lost time. China was once centuries ahead of the rest of the world, but was left in the dark ages from failed imperial policies. During Ming times (1400's), they had the world's largest naval armada (look up "Zheng He" in Wikipedia) and could have easily dominated the world. The 20th century was the American century, but the 21st century is the Chinese century.
hmonguru 1 year ago
In the past, Chinese didn't want to dominate the world because they saw themselves as already being the "center of the world". China in Chinese means "middle kingdom" or center of the world. No need to conquer others. This explains why there was no aggressive Chinese invasions of Russia or Thailand, for example. However, I sincerely hope their industriousness is put to use for the Martian exploration and colonization like you joked about, because we need a Mars colony insurance policy badly.
hmonguru 1 year ago
The engine isn't Chinese dumbass, its Russian. China still can't make a functioning jet engine of its own.
Gregman420 1 year ago
@Gregman420 russia?where the hell is russia i dont see it on horizont hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
coldplay9982 1 year ago
If u're an aviation fan u will sure notice that wing and elevator design is exactly like F-166's one. Even the proportions are same. And only two differences - rudder design and air intakes that are mounted on the side. I used to think this aircraft had nothing in common with F-16 unless I took a really good look at it's separate features like rear part streamlining and wing geometry.
It reminds me Chinese car Chery Tiggo that is a copy ot RAV4 :)
Anyway Chinese made a good try building it.
Beaverhuj 1 year ago
single engine bad idea, also looks nothing like a f-16, maybe a british tornado or a french mirage
schnufty69 1 year ago
they all fucking crap..this bird is nothing compare to usa....
MrMildtouch23 1 year ago
@MrMildtouch23 yet we hire them to make our Levis Jeans? Fire Americans from their jobs and ship it overseas? They make our Apple Computers and dumb ass Americans buy them...along with iPods? I'm at the point where I would be happy looking at a replica of a Mona-Lisa at a Chinese museum if its cheaper.
rehndawg 1 year ago
I'll never understand why the chink nations like to copy the f-16...
Wawaweewaj 1 year ago
@Wawaweewaj and how is this an F-16? cause it can fly?
myfunkychannel 1 year ago
Pakistan fOEVER !!!!!!
I love Pakistan !!!!!!!!
Thanks for helping my country a lot !!!!!!!!
what I should say??
So appreciate!!!! Pakistan万岁 !!!!!!!
croas2011 1 year ago
JUNK !
rony88ful 1 year ago
u copy cat chineese
meetbhalla420 1 year ago
awesome pak&china
themubashir0 1 year ago
A-MAZ-ING
howardflight09 1 year ago
considering this is based on J-7, it's pretty fucking awesome
AznDuD333 1 year ago
they steal their hamburgers to continue their quest for world domination too !
yin8838 1 year ago
they have the technology now and they will continue to develope figther aircraft from the word go !! you better watch out america , cause china stole your secrets !!! better than Alien technology !!
yin8838 1 year ago
@yin8838 - take away their rice and they will give up!
hydrobot2003 1 year ago
@hydrobot2003 I doubt Americans could live with out their hamburgers
menu12345 1 year ago
@menu12345 - Hahaha! No shit right!
hydrobot2003 1 year ago
the song is The Rasmus-In the shadows, probably it looks like bt its compared to mirage 2000s, f16s c/d adn f15/e
6799jawad 1 year ago
this plane looks like it needs a high angle of attack in order to get off the ground
zzzzzzzzzzaaaaapp 1 year ago
looks like the f5..+f16+f18 in one..but it looks a bit of an old plane..but very nice...because the chinese people have developed a plane like this.
KIBProductionz 1 year ago
whats the song
KIBProductionz 1 year ago
It looks like a Hornet from Vietnam
Jguthro 1 year ago
@Jguthro Not Vietnam, it's the hornet from 1953 in korea, that beat the USA out from the north back to the south.
halim181276 1 year ago
well first hting i can tell ya ints not better than our new jets.... its payload is on the outside of the jet which increases drag... our new f 22 payload is inside
popper504 1 year ago
well if its like everything else from china it will give the pilots lead poisoning
anilraj420 2 years ago
@okaaaiiiden - i believe pakistan bought a lot of f16's after they were decomissioned, the rest probably sitting a army wreckyard unfortunatly, being used for parts
mzdamx3rs 2 years ago
@okaaaiiiden- personally the f-16 is my favorite jet... but its eapons and control systems arent as modern, and engine not as advanced or as much thrust...
the f-16 is like the ferrari of jets, small compared to f18, etc. sleek, fast, great visibilty, and overall power to weight ratio, i would rather fly a f16 than this but even i know this is 30 years of newer tech.
mzdamx3rs 2 years ago
@okaaaiiiden lmao i hope its better than the f16, the f16 was developed in the 70's...lol... compare to a modern f22, f35...def. not but still nice i love delta wing fighters
mzdamx3rs 2 years ago
something is better than nothig!...may be not as good as f-16 but still usefull
futuresengineer 2 years ago