B20 Civic at 2006 Canadian Soloprint Nationals

[kapow151]

It's good to see a few none vtec B20 powered civics. You see too many ls/vtec b20/vtec, it is a risky setup, only some people can build reliable ones. Nice driving by the way.

[fredcivicek9]

Tu roulais dans le combien cette journé la sur le circuit???

[rvbo1987]

EASY + BUT IT DEPENDS§ §§§ !!

[Eksirrob]

built gsr head and b16 tranny do it ..

[J0hnnySw1f7]

I have to admit that looks like a ton-o-fun. good driving and keep it up..maybe u can by me a new passport and when can time attack that track. lol

[Soprano313]

Very nice vid, great driving to, added to favs.

[sponsoredcrx]

@Soprano313 Agreed. I want to get into this so bad but cant find shit around here. =/

[Jak3Mac]

Sounds great.

[thesoupeater]

time for new clutch

[insightracer]

I agree that the clutch was slipping slightly but not because it was worn out. The stock Type R clutch couldn't handle the torque of that B20B engine. The clutch still worked fine for 2 more seasons of track and street use.

[vlupywwr]

Gear608, your soooooo right!!! I have a friend with a B20B and another with B18C1 (VTec), b18 one have like 30 hp more, but they are so fukin short in there race, when one win a race, it's sooo short!

[daeux]

very nice drivig :D , can u please tell me if the B20B crv block + b16a head is better than a full b16a v-tec engine ?? and how about the b18c block + b16 head , many people recommend it , thanks :)

[insightracer]

Which engine combination is better depends on your definition of better.

What will the car be used for?

I prefer the stock B20B because it's very inexpensive, extremely reliable and has plenty of torque and adequate power.

[daeux]

the car will be used for street only , in my country the price of B16A twincam vtec as the same price of B20B crv !!! so which one should i buy ! or i use the b20b block + b16 head .

i know that the b16a have about 160hp and the b20b crv is less than 140hp , so what i dont know is what power can i got from using the b20b block + b16 head , but im sure the b20 have more tourque :S what would u do in my situation ?

[insightracer]

I bought the red civic with a B16A block and a Integra Type R (1.8L) head. With that engine setup the car had 175 WHP. When that engine blew up after many years of racing I replaced it with a stock B20B JDM CRV engine with 142 WHP. The old engine had more power but only at very high RPM, the B20B has much more torque and power at low to mid RPM so it's better for driving at a race track and better for the street. But little engines that scream at 9000 RPM and have V-tech that kicks are fun.

[MrBent2009]

@daeux my friend has b20b block with a b16 head with gsr fuel pump and gsr injec and b16 tran he gets 200hp to the wheels

[MrBent2009]

@daeux 

[poweredbairice]

Nice run. Reminds me of those best motoring vids.

[RICEFREAK]

Good drivin dude. Im planning to get an integra as my first car.

[78srx440]

Do you have the B20Z engine, which came from the 99-00 CRV as opposed to the B20b which came in the 96-98 CRV? I think the later engine had a different intake manifold. I'm just trying to figure out how you fit that engine under the hood.

[insightracer]

I have a B20B engine from a 1997 CRV.

[insightracer]

We got this engine tuned on a dyno last month and now it puts out 142 WHP and 145 ft-lbs torque at the wheel.

[78srx440]

Oh, nice! What are they stock, like 125 and 135, respectively? It sounds really good. It's cool hearing how the rpm's don't have to be at 6k to make power, b/c of the impressive torque.

Do you have a different intake manifold? I didn't think a B20b with the stock intake mani would fit under the hood. Also, did you have to use different mounting brackets or did it just drop in?

[insightracer]

I think it's something like that stock.

I believe we used a Integra LS intake manifold, and I know for sure it's a Type R exhaust manifold. We bought the car with a B16 so it was basically a drop in swap. But from what I have heard changing from a D series engine to a B series engine is a lot more work and over $1000 in parts not including the engine.

[78srx440]

That's some pretty impressive power at the wheels for such modest upgrades. Very nice!

And thanks for the info about the swap. I'll have to look into pricing the motor mounts, and everything else. In that $1000, did you include the b series transmission and axles?

[insightracer]

Tranmission is an extra $1800 for a NEW Integra Type R transmission with an LSD. Don't waist your money on a used one or a cheaper non LSD B series transmission with taller gears.

[istayaway1]

You can fit a b20Z in there by changing the intake manifold to an integra LS manifold

[Drkadrk]

thats just a diff head.. n if your going to change the head y not go vtec with ls head

[RacsQT]

ls head aint vtec

[Quangzta]

Hi, i'm actually getting a B20B replacement motor for my DA9 Integra LS. My B18A1 needed bottom end servicing which would cost as much as my motor itself, so i'm upgrading.

A quick question about the B20B, would it be more powerful than my previous B18A1? do remember the B20B has more torque and in a light shell. Thanks and that's a awesome project car you got there!

[insightracer]

My B20B put out 133 WHP and 125 ft-lbs Wheel torque.

If your B18A had V-tec then the B20 will have less power but much more torque. Your car will be slower at the drag strip but faster at a real race track.

[Quangzta]

No, B18A1's have no VTEC, just a 1.8L DOHC motor.

What are the advantages of more torque in the DA9 chassis? because i've done some research, the stock B18A1 pulls 164nm or torque whilst the B20B pulls 180.

When you say it'll have less power but more torque, what are the advantages?

Thanks for your time.

[insightracer]

A high reving VTEC motor that goes to 8500 RPM will only have lots of power and acceleration at 6000 RPM and above. At the drag strip it's easy to shift at redline to keep the RPM high and the power output high.

But at a race track the car is downshifted before entering a corner so most likely the motor will be in the middle or slightly below middle of it's RPM range when exiting the corner.

[insightracer]

So a car with better low end torque will accelerate out of corners much better then a higher powered car that is gutless at low to mid RPM range. That's why a B20 motor is faster on the track but slower at the drag strip compared to a B16 VTEC for example.

[Quangzta]

Oh, it all makes sense now. Thanks a heap buddy! your engine sounds extroadinary, what modifications have been done?

I've researched about B20B's and apparently they have weak cylinder walls, is this true? and how have you overcome that issue? it's still a strong motor isnt it?

[insightracer]

Stripped and half cage interior makes is sound loud inside. Stock B20B engine with GSR exhaust manifold, stock Integra Type R CAT, high flow exhaust & muffler that was starting to rattle inside... LOL

Now the car has a APEXI WS2 exhaust system, it's quiter and sounds better. See my latest video to compare.

[Euphorica]

lol . quebec roads/tracks are the worst

[daymkimchee]

wat a shitty ass track lol just look at the pot holes hahaa but nice driving

[insightracer]

This civic is our weekend track car and my Insight is used for daily driving.

[TaLoCc]

nice...all man i hope u didnt sell your insight..I lke all of your video with tha insight..tumps up on that

[StickSuave]

Nice video. Definitely stiff rates, there.

[shutokoupro]

Nice driving man, that stiff suspension making the car bounce, was it inducing alot more understeer?

[insightracer]

It's the roughest track I've ever driven on and the suspension is too stiff for that track. When the car bounced it usually caused the car to drift sideways from a few inches sometimes almost a foot. Sometimes the bumps caused the car to over steer more but it never caused the car to under steer more.

[hamdenlax897]

and they say hondas are boring.. nice line.. wait to go by making hondas not all look like ricer johnny cars.. you just have to do them right.. no crazy body kits, no crazy wings good job...

-coming froma a camaro fan!

[kmoallem]

Newbe question here ... is the B20 any heavier than the other B-series engines? I'd like to throw one into my CRX but don't want to kill my steering. Personally I like the idea of having all that low-end torque =)

[insightracer]

Yes B20 is slightly heavier then a B16. But how it will handle depends on many other factors as well.

[portugalpower]

Very strong sounding motor

i got a little question

im going to buy a 1992-93 Civic hatch EG im not sure if going with the one with the stock motor or b16a already installed, how much work/money would go into the car if i want to install a K20a?

[Plogics88]

I hear its about 13k total. 5-6k for engine/tran itself and modifications to get the engine installed will add up to 12k-13k dont know if that is a good deal or not. I just I read about k20a and thats how much people said it cost to do k20a swap into EG 92-95

[insightracer]

Installing a K20 is very expensive, lots of things need to be replaced, and the price of that engine is expensive. A B20 is only $500 used.

[portugalpower]

Iv noticed, i only see K20's on show cars. B20 thats a CRV right? whats it pumpin out? i was looking at a B18 the other day 192-97 hp isnt bad

[insightracer]

Yes the B20 is a CRV engine, mine dynoed at 133 WHP and 125 ft-lbs of torque. But this engine only revs to 6500 RPM it does not have VTEC. The B18 Type R VTEC engine is much more expensive and revs to 9000 RPM. The B18 only has more power and torque above 6000 RPM. On a grad strip the B18 VTEC is faster. But on a race track the B20 with the tight ratio Type R transmission on a 2300 lb civic with race syspension is just as quick as a Type R.

[insightracer]

yes a B20 will fit in a 94 civic hatchback but it requires replacing $1000 worth of parts not including the engine! You need to replace all the engine mounts, other mounts, distributor, power steering pump,etc... it's a huge list of stuff. But I bought my 93 civic si hatchback with a B16 engine already in it so it was easy going from the B16 to a B20.

[Plogics88]

thank you for the reply :)

helped me know what to look forward to cause planning to get a B20 motor soon hehe.

[Plogics88]

Hi im new at this dont really know much about hondas.I was wondering if a B20 motor can fit into a 94'' civic hatchback because what i heard is B20 can only fit into 96' and up civics. Your car sounds great btw :)

[chaddh]

Very quick! Looks like a very stiff ride. Thumbs up!

[insightracer]

Thank you, It weighs 2300 lbs, dynos at 133 HP and 125 lb-ft at the wheels. This 2L engine is from a 1997 CRV so it's near max Hp everywhere above 3000 RPM. The tight Integra Type R transmission really helps too.