@ncs2000 actually after looking at a much larger picture, it is a Six. Her hair looked extremely similar to D'anna (Three), which was curled the same way and the same color.
MAHA GAYATRI MANTRA OM = Almighty God BHOOR = Embodiment of vital or spiritual energy BHUVAHA = Destroyer of suffering SWAHA = Embodiment of happiness TAT = That (indicating God) SAVITUR = Bright, luminous, like and sun VARENIYAM = Supreme, best BARGO = Destroyer of sins DEVASYA = Divine DHEEMAHI = May receive DHIYO = Intellect YO = Who NAHA = Our PRACHODAYAT = May inspire OM BHOOR BHUVA SWAHA OM TAT SAVITUR VARENIYAM BARGO DEVASYA DHEEMAHI DHIYO YONAHA PRACHODAYAT OM
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Spins and turns,angles and curves, the shape of dreams half remembered. Slip the surly bonds of Earth and touch the face of perfection, a perfect face, a perfect lace, find the perfect world for the end of Kara Thrace. End of Line.
fabuloso simplemente extraordinario increiblemente muy bueno 10000 puntos el sanscrito hindu es fasbuloso el himno a los dioses de la creacion y destruccio y renacimiento no tiene comparacion simplemente es extraodinario maravilloso
fabuloso simplemente extraordinario increiblemente muy bueno 10000 puntos el sanscrito hindu es fasbuloso el himno a los dioses de la creacion y destruccio y renacimiento no tiene comparacion simplemente es extraodinario
can't we stop arguing who is right and who is wrong? The meaning of God was not created to explain why are we here and where are we from. The meaning of God is created to put an end to all the war and deaths and genocide that happens because of the eternal "I am better then you!" thing. But it seems it failed... I mean think for a second. Would it matter if God was/wasn't real if there's no one left to believe/ not believe in him? And one very important thing is that this is IMHO!
What's more important is to understand what God represents (happiness, peaceful, empathy, etc.), not which God is real or not but people are so ignorant that they're not listening to God's words but words created by religions to inflict fear upon everyone by saying if you don't believe in this God you'll go to hell. Use your brains for God's sake.
Instead of listening to a beautiful song, with excellent music, you argue about "The One True Religion" and "The One True Atheism". Do you even know what this song is about?
Damn it, can't you put your proverbial balls on ice, take a chill-pill and enjoy something as magnificent as this song? You ain't gonna prove anything here. You can only do the "I am right, you are wrong!" mantra.
Anyway, I just love it how the song begins in a lullaby-like tone and suddenly goes metal.
Religious debates are stupid so I'm not going to indulge that waste of time. Instead, I'm just gonna sit here and listen to a piece of music that makes goosebumps stand up on my skin in all of the best ways possible. Holy frak those drums are amazing and that voice! Oh man!!!!
How did listening to the Gayatri Mantra sung through BSG's The Plan turn into a religious argument. If anything, this alone is why it is so easy to be distracted by arguments of "My God is better than yours" nonsense. Please bother to look up the Gayatri Mantra and understand its meaning and use. It's not remotely considered of whose ears hear it. This is why humanity is so easy to dupe and destroy. They start arguing over whose "godhead" is more valid.
Can we not have a religous debate on youtube please, We all have the right too our opinions but we don't need to bicker with one another over our ideals do we?
Well this has been mildly amusing, but do you guys really think YouTube is the best place to be having a religious discussion? It's getting a little out of hand don't you think?
Peace is an unknown concept to religious zealots and perverters. The most you can do is convince others who are less sure of their beliefs that they pervert their own beliefs. You won't know peace unless religion itself is destroyed.
I refuse to apologize for doing what I feel is right: laying their cards and mine out for others to see the full argument rather than some biased and thoroughly perverted interpretation of Islam, just as I would for Christians and other theists.
"It is important to keep in mind that atheism and agnosticism have no inherent proscription against suicide, so higher rates of suicide among agnostics and atheists should in no way be considered a failure of these belief systems. Indeed, compassionate tolerance for suicide and euthenasia are widely regarded as hallmarks of many secular societies. "
-Kanita Dervic, Maria A. Oquendo, Michael F. Grunebaum, Steve Ellis, Ainsley K. Burke, J. John Mann. "Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt"
Just saw the film last night and was blown away. I thought watching Caprica for background was good, but The Plan sheds light on so many things that happen during the series!! :P
Well, I can't comment on the quality of their Sanskrit (hey, their Jimi Hendrix wasn't all that great either, except as a mindblower) ... but it's a haunting song, a cultural tribute to Sanskrit at least -- and EERIE as hell, when you fuse it with the idea of the Cylons being off on their religious jihad against God's fallen humans (or, their own misguided jihad in God's name. Funny how becoming HUMAN meant falling into the same human errors and pits, wasn't it?)! BSG was genius, imo.
Throiughout the Battlestar Gakactuca series the theme of the war bwtween the monotheisitc Cylons and the pagan humans s repeated over and over. In "The Plan" we learn hoiw Cavil was the planner and prime movewr behind the war and he reveals that it wasn't about "the one true God", indeed, he reveals that he doesn't believe in any God at all, He simply used the religion of the Cylons as a means to acheive his own ends - destroying everything.
On the other hand, Six repeatedly speaks about her faith in God's plan and the Cylons' divine mission ... and SHE'S still around at the end, after Cavil (?) has cynically commited suicide after his own grandiose 'plans" have been proven empty and doomed.
The point may be that the Cylons are as capable of feeling both true spirituality AND cynical egocentrism as humans are!
The song is still utterly cool, and BSG forever an amazing sci-fi trip!!!
True Fact: Millions of people died in wars in the name of no religion. Example: Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, World War I, World War II, and much more.
True Fact: Millions have committed acts of great evil in the name of their God. Example: the genocide of countless native peoples in the name of Christianization.
Another True Fact: Millions have committed acts of great evil in the name of thier God. Example: the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents in places like India, Israel, and the United States in the name of Allah.
So then it's somehow better to die in the name of whatever God or gods you worship than it is to die in your own name? Or maybe because at leat then you have an excuse.
Oh, and by the way, that is actually untrue. Every tyrant from Nero to Adolf Hitler has committed acts of great evil in the name of EVERYTHING ELSE but their own name. Probably because they're smart enough to realize that if they start getting greedy the people will revolt.
In any event, you would be hard pressed to find someone who committed genocide in their own name without having at least one way out of the quagmire that is human nature. They didn't want to claim responsibility for their actions, thus they claim it to be in the name of their God or gods, in the name of national security, in the name of the free market, or in any other see-through invisibility cloak.
Thus is human nature, and you'll be hard-pressed to find a couter to it.
We'll see. You made your choice, I've made my own.
At the very least, you cannot say you weren't reminded of the Truth. Even a TV show about people journeying through space taught you about the One, True God.
What? The truth that every single religious text ascribes infinite power to God or the gods? If God, in whatever form, is omnipotent, then how can you possibly claim to understand It? A TV show taught me nothing except thatbeings try to hide behind God or the gods when they don't know if what they've done is right.
You are yet one more person who hides behind the guise of God when you really have no clue as to what to believe. Is what you believe right, or were you taught that it is?
That is the real question. Were you taught that the Qur'an is the one true source of religious truth or do you truly believe it? If you truly believe it to be correct, then you must believe that Allah is omnipotent. If Allah is omnipotent, then how can you possibly claim that you can describe what It believes is right and wrong? Omnipotence is a two-way street and a pitiful excuse for an escape clause.
Too long I was taught to rely on 'blind faith', not clear proofs. Too long I was taught to trust the person behind the pulpit, instead of searching for the Truth, instead of using my head and using logic and reason.
So I searched until I found it.
I am told the Quran is a Book whose Author is the Creator. If this is true, then I have a right to ask 'Where is proof?'
1400 years ago, the Big Bang and molecular composition of water was revealed to a man. Surah 21:30
This isn't the only scientific miracle revealed in that Book. And these scientific facts are enough to bring Scientists and other learned men and women to Al-Islam.
The Torah, Gospel, and Quran are revealed by our Creator. I have proof of our Creator.
But you are welcome to make your own choice on what you believe, or don't. There is no compulsion in religion. :)
Incorrect. Surah 21:30 does not mention the molecular composition of water (being hydrogen and oxygen), nor does it mention more than a poetic representation of most astronomical phenomenon. Including the spreading of the canvas of night. I own a copy of the Qur'an as well, and I know full well how poetic it and all holy books are.
And, indeed, I believe despite that. There is no empirical evidence, or else everyone would believe in the God of Abraham. It requires faith and faith alone.
God does not love you any more than It hates you. Thus is the duality of omnipotence. God is no more beneficient, loving, forgiving, or merciful than it is fickle, hating, condemning, and merciless. Thus is the duailty of omnipotence. Deny one and you deny the other because all adjectives are dependent upon their antonyms for existence. Deny the existence of day and night is denied. Deny the existence of good and evil perishes. Indeed, how can either exist without the other to compare it to?
Deny Allah is omnipotent, and you deny that the Torah, the Bible, and the Qur'an are true. All three claim Jehovah/God/Allah to be omnipotent and all three are taken by their respective religions to be unquestionable.
Concede that Allah is omnipotent, and you concede that Allah is amoral. Amorality, being the complete lack of morality or immorality, meaning that Allah no more loves you than it hates you.
To you are your works, and to me are mine. The fact you are striving to get so upset over someone else's beliefs speaks volumes about you and your view of others.
Believe or believe not. I am not a guardian nor am I responsible for you. You make your choices just as I make mine, and we are only responsible for ourselves.
But on the Day of Judgment, you cannot say you were not warned. Even from a TV show. :)
You didn't. You claimed Allah loved you, personally. I counter with the fact that, since It is omnipotent (according to the Qur'an), it no more loves you than hates you, thus is amoral.
I'm not upset about your beliefs. I merely feel sorry that you can't see the truth set before your eyes. We created good and evil or, if not that, then we decided the concept had worth. You haven't warned me of anything I'm not fully aware of. All three main Abrahamic religions condemn me for questioning them.
Although humans are made up of around 60% water, we aren't solely made from it. Otherwise every time we bathe we would go down the drain. There are other elements, carbon, nitrogen, iron, potassium, and so forth, that are found within our systems and are vital to our existence. The Qur'an is WRONG when it says Allah created us from JUST water.
Because I don't need proof. You made the original claim, that Islam is the one true religion, and I have yet to see concrete evidence for that claim.
You'll have to forgive me, I'm not familiar with the method by which the Qur'an is divided.
Surah 2:129:
O our Sustainer! Raise up from the midst of our off spring an apostle from among themselves, who shall convey unto them Thy messages, and impart unto them revelation as well as wisdom, and cause them to grow in purity: for, verily, Thou alone art almighty, truly wise!
Almighty, a synonym for omnipotent. Omnipotence: a way for a being to exhibit any emotion and all emotion simultaneously.
Deny Allah is omnipotent, and you deny It can exhibit all emotion simultaneously. Thus, if you deny Allah is omnipotent, you deny that Allah is amoral and thus you deny that Allah is flawless. After all, only a flawless being would be able to truly hate someone and love someone at the same time. Both of which are emotions applied to the Abrahamic God. Sometimes in the same paragraph.
I don't use conventional sources. I use the word of the Qur'an against the word of the Qur'an.
Surah 29:29 Must you indeed approach men [with lust], and thus cut across the way [of nature]? And must you commit these shameful deeds in your open] assemblies? But his peoples only answer was, Bring down upon us Gods chastisement, if thou art a man of truth!
The Qur'an, like the Bible and Torah, consider all sexual alignments other than heterosexuality to be sins. At the same time they call God omnipotent, thus they call God gay, straight, and all other alignments, and none at all.
I have found my creator. It is in ALL religions. It is the only way I can reconcile omnipotence. It is in all religions that do not glorify human nature. Christianity, and indeed all religions, are nothing more than concepts. We associate violence with religion because we are afraid to take responsibility for what we create. We associate our actions with God or the gods to absolve ourselves of that responsibility. At the end of it all, a killer who recants on his deathbed still killed innocents.
I question to find answers, true. The problem being that you are trying to tell me the answers I have found are wrong. You are not one to judge. You are just as fallible as I. I won't know if I'm right until I die. I believe I am right, that is all I have. There is no truth to be found in religion during our lives because that isn't the point of religion. It is an exercise of faith, nothing more and nothing less.
And thus you deny that having unlimited power means that one cannot exhibit all emotion and none at the same time. Omnipotence doesn't need to follow human logic. Indeed, if it did, it wouldn't be omnipotence. Your definition, by your own explanation, is just as invalid.
You fall into the same trap the Christians fall into: If God is All Powerful, He can come into the body of a man and die for man's sins!
Our Creator acts in a Godly manner. He does Godly things, not stupid things. :P
You cannot exhibit all emotions and none at the same time. Your conjecture is flawed, just as saying you can make a square circle is flawed. You are combining words that are meaningless.
You made your choice, tycoonmike3. Live with it, or continue to seek the Truth.
The problem being what is stupid to you may not be stupid to God. Are you capable of comprehending God? In other words, can you look into the face of God and come out as anything except insane? If you are, then this God is not worthy of our worship. Anything we can comprehend must be as fallible as we are. I do not worship fallible beings, nor do I believe anyone else should.
O our Sustainer! Raise up from the midst of our off spring an apostle from among themselves, who shall convey unto them Thy messages, and impart unto them revelation as well as wisdom, and cause them to grow in purity: for, verily, Thou alone art ALMIGHTY, truly wise!
If God is almighty, or omnipotent, it must be capable of not feeling emotion. Otherwise, it is just as fallible as we are, thus not worthy of human worship. Do you deny the Qur'an?
My "proof" is the Qur'an itself. This alone should prove that there is no proof that the Qur'an is infallible. Indeed, if it were, there would only be one interpretation of it. You do not know that the Qur'an is infallible, so do not parade around as though you're the next prophet.
I never said God was infallible. If you had understood what I said, this entire debate has been simply following your own logic through to its very end.
You stop short of actually calling a spade a spade and realizing that these books, the Qur'an, the Bible, the Torah, and indeed the Upanishads, the Tao Te Ching, and all holy books in existence, even if inspired by God, were written by MEN. They were written by fallible creatures, thus are fallible themselves. Considering, therefore, that all organized religions have at least one text, in and of itself flawed, all organized religions are themselves flawed.
As is the way. I provide the exact same evidence you have (the Qur'an) and you claim I provide none. You are just like all other theists who don't understand the burden of proof lies with the person making the original claim. You have originally claimed that Allah is the one true God, you have claimed how Allah loves you, and you claimed that Islam is the one true faith. You've provided no more proof than I have. The difference being it is not my responsibility.
You are just as bad as all the cafeteria Christians. You expect me to prostrate myself to Allah because of your quotations, but when I provide counter quoations, you write them off as not being evidence simply so you don't have to question your own beliefs and your own God. You don't want to admit that, according to your own belief, we're not supposed to question Allah. Show me one Surah that says we're supposed to question the almighty benefaction and decisions of Allah. Do that, and I leave.
The defense of the beaten: call an opponent's arguments a logical fallacy and be done with it. The defense of the ignorant: the explanation of evidence is not proof. The defense of the foolish: to ignore an entire source and claim an opponent's arguments are beaten because of it. Explanation is proof because without an explanation the proof is nothing. If you can't explain it, it is not proof. Any scientist will tell you that.
The only proof I need is the surah claiming Allah to be omnipotent. From that, my entire argument is derived. That is the beauty of my position: deny the truth of my proof and you deny the truth of your proof. Concede that my proof is true and you concede to my argument. There's no third direction, either Allah is omnipotent or Allah is not. Which is it?
17:36And follow not that of which you have not the knowledge; surely the hearing and the sight and the heart, all of these, shall be questioned about that.
Sure, you could run away. Perhaps that is because you accede that, logically, I am right? Do you accept the notion that Allah is omnipotent?
In either case, this line tells you to question unbelievers, not God Almighty. You've failed, yet again, to say to me that believers are told in the Qur'an to question the Word of Allah.
4:94O you who believe! when you go to war in Allah's way, make investigation, and do not say to any one who offers you peace: You are not a believer. Do you seek goods of this world's life! But with Allah there are abundant gains; you too were such before, then Allah conferred a benefit on you; therefore make investigation; surely Allah is aware of what you do.
49:6O you who believe! if an evil-doer comes to you with a report, look carefully into it, lest you harm a people in ignorance, then be sorry for what you have done.
mike do you need anymore proof that we are charged with using our brains, eyes, and ears? That we are told to question things, and verify them, and not just blindly follow them? You asked for one, i gave you 3
None of which say you should question Allah. The first, considering how Allah is omnipotent and thus unknowable to us finite beings, is an impossible statement. The second tells you to question ones motives before making war in the name of Allah, nothing more. The third tells you to question evil-doers, not Allah.
17:45And when you recite the Quran, We place between you and those who do not believe in the hereafter a hidden barrier;
46And We have placed coverings on their hearts and a heaviness in their ears lest they understand it, and when you mention your Lord alone in the Quran they turn their backs in aversion.
You are supposed to question things,,,if you truly read the Quran you would know that Allah tells us to use the brain he gave us and verify info, not just blindly follow what we are told,,,,also the Quran does not say we are ONLY made of water, we are made of the elements of the earth as well,,,read, study, ponder, and pray, Allah will show you
"And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful." Surah 2:111
"And We will draw forth from among every nation a witness and say: Bring your proof; then shall they know that the truth is Allah's, and that which they forged shall depart from them." Surah 28:75
"Say: Have you considered if the chastisement of Allah should overtake you suddenly or openly, will any be destroyed but the unjust people?" Surah 6:47
"Have you not considered your Lord, how He extends the shade? And if He had pleased He would certainly have made it stationary; then We have made the sun an indication of it." Surah 25:45
"He said: Have you then considered what you have been worshiping:" Surah 26:75
None of which say you should question Allah. The first questions the Judeo-Christian belief that only Jews and Christians enter heaven. The second is simply a restatement of how truth is only in Allah. The third and fourth further demands one not to question Allah. The fifth questions what one has been worshiping in an attempt to discredit other, non-Abrahamic religions.
@uuu64 You make a good point about the possibility of BSG being fantasy as opposed to sci-fi because of those virtual beings and Starbuck coming back as an angel. WTF?!? This show has always prided itself on its emphasis on gritty realism and hard sci-fi. But with all these virtual beings popping up, as well as Starbuck returning as an angel was getting ridiculous. But I came up with a plausible explanation: after Starbuck "die" everybody was smoking pot and hallucinated that she came back. LOL!
@KnightInExile7 i doubt that... in te first season Roslyn was having visions, prophecies, you dont have anymore mystic than that! If you didnt catch the vibe at first dont come bitchin if it bit you in the ass while you were still trying to figure out stuff!
@lykan21 Actually, I do remember Roslyn having those visions and yes, they were mystical, but the part about Starbuck coming back as an angel was really pushing it. But introspective, I now understand that it is open to interpretation, so anyone can think and decide for themselves and I respect the show's writers for that. :)
To be fair, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
I felt the ending was probably as strong as they could make it... they did paint themselves into a corner, in a sense, with the various head-people.
But at the same time, it's usually the case that questions are more interesting than answers. IMO they did a fairly good job tying up the questions they could, but at least still leaving it fairly open.
Aren't all of "the gods" on BSG greek? Shouldn't the songs be greek then?
Six didn't plan and instigate the genocide of humanity. She, like the other human Cylons, was duped by Cavil, who used her religious beliefs to motivate her to carry out his plan. The only person Cavil reveals his true beliefs and motives to is another copy of himself.
The human "gods" obviously have Greek names (just as the colonies have Zodiacal-sounding names). The "One God" that the Cylons discuss may be Someone totally different (tho the "prophecies" and scriptures seem to overlap ... but that's like debating whether GOD can co-exist in OUR universe where both God and Physics apply. They can.)
The wonderful theme song actually increases the coolness and mystery of BSG by NOT being "Greek" ... by hinting that human religion was MORE than the "greek" aspects ... but mostly all we're shown are the "greek" aspects, yes.
No, Cylon Six didn't 'plan or instigate' their jihad. :) The BSG series is spooky and beautiful in how it reveals that they were ALL pawns in a cosmic epic: Cavil was as much a pawn in unfolding the Divine scheme as everyone else was.
Love Battlestar Galactica!!!
By the way, which language is this?
JohnfuckingSnow 2 weeks ago
@JohnfuckingSnow It's Sanskrit. Same lyrics as the show's theme
sgcommand14 2 weeks ago
who the hell is that guy between colonel tigh and Gaius Baltar?
MrCarlosBrazao 1 month ago
@MrCarlosBrazao It's Lee Adama.
NebulaB 1 month ago
@NebulaB oh yeah you're right... XD
MrCarlosBrazao 1 month ago
@MrCarlosBrazao Lee Adama
Excelsior2007 2 weeks ago
I miss Muffit...
DoctorGleich 2 months ago
LIKE just for the awesome picture!
MrCarlosBrazao 2 months ago
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Artisticat86 2 months ago
Look around you. Where are these gods you argue about? All you see is strife.
walrusclothing 6 months ago
@greyfox129 actually it's D'Anna, this is my wallpaper and I'll even post a screen shot some how, if you want to PM me.
screambloodymurda 6 months ago
who is the lady beside Roslin?
ncs2000 7 months ago
@ncs2000 thats deanna, the news reporter.
HolySwordsman1 7 months ago
@HolySwordsman1 Actually the woman next to roslin is another Six model Natalie.
greyfox129 6 months ago 3
@ncs2000 Xena
megaminomakai 5 months ago in playlist nice stuff
@megaminomakai doesn't look like the Xena girl
ncs2000 5 months ago
@ncs2000 it's Lucy Lawless = Xena
megaminomakai 5 months ago
@megaminomakai but still doesn't look like her from the photo, maybe is the angle
ncs2000 5 months ago
@ncs2000 actually after looking at a much larger picture, it is a Six. Her hair looked extremely similar to D'anna (Three), which was curled the same way and the same color.
megaminomakai 5 months ago
Enough with the 'holy war' being fought on here! Save everyone a lot of time and energy and "Keep thy religion to thy self!"
CatsRuleDogsAreTards 9 months ago
oh-my-GOD(s)!
WHAT THE FU*K!?
ISN'T THERE A SONG IN THIS SERIES THAT SUCKS AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT!?!?
NOBODY CAN MAKE THIS MANY AWESOME TRACKS AND BE HUMAN!! WHAT THE FU*K!?!?!?
loveyoubel 9 months ago 5
@loveyoubel Technically, Bear McCreary if half-Cylon. We all are...
tehawesomezful 8 months ago
@loveyoubel I guess that makes McCreary a cylon Dx
CanzoniPotenti 2 months ago
really awesome
85Damix 9 months ago
Check out the BluRay ! There's a lot of bonus and the full OST inside it !
iToaster360 10 months ago
This is for the bible pushing crowd....The bible has been discredited as a political tool manufactured by the roman king Constantine..
Effingbaddude 10 months ago 4
After 1:24 it's the best part ! Such a great ending for The Plan
RitaKatherine24 10 months ago
@singletona082: It;s rendition of the Gayatri Mantra:
oṃ bhūr bhuvaḥ svaḥ
tát savitúr váreniyaṃ
bhárgo devásya dhīmahi
dhíyo yó naḥ pracodáyāt
httpescu 11 months ago
Anyone have any clue what the lyrics are, if anything other than gibberish?
singletona082 11 months ago
@singletona082 Sanskrit
386dx1 11 months ago
am I the only one to think that the pic is SO much more than just a pic of the cast or a copy of DaVinci's painting?
I think it's a masterpiece that escapes the understanding of us mortals
gstv87 11 months ago
@gstv87 Jesus your right! i knew i recognised its layout, compare it to the painting and it has the same layout, well said man.
hazzjaz 10 months ago
@gstv87 There is a version of the picture that has a side bar explaining what each thing represents.
CatsRuleDogsAreTards 9 months ago
Nice, that's my desktop pic lol.
I have a widescreen laptop so it fits perfectly too. Not stretched or anything :)
2pakiMakabeli 11 months ago
Let's get this genocide started.
Vongspawn 11 months ago
mirczi 1 year ago
3 of the final 5 apparently dont like their own plan....
lostsoul496 1 year ago
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This song and this show suck.
Kerorofan1990 1 year ago
@Kerorofan1990
No offense, but you must be smoking crack!
JoeBSG1 1 year ago
All of this has happened before...and all of this will happen again.
MsDetroitMan117 1 year ago 17
Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park, Grace Park...
no what I mean
the26thhour 1 year ago 27
@the26thhour i know. you seen her in Hawaii five o? that's awesome. i like to think Kono is a long lost relative of sharon8
TheBlueHandOfDeath 10 months ago
@TheBlueHandOfDeath - I hear ya!
the26thhour 10 months ago
@the26thhour that girl's going places.
TheBlueHandOfDeath 10 months ago
@TheBlueHandOfDeath - I hope so. She seems like a pretty cool, chilled out lady.
the26thhour 10 months ago
@the26thhour yeah, you can say that two times.
TheBlueHandOfDeath 10 months ago
@the26thhour Grace Park..Yes...Trisha Helfer...Yes...Katee Sackoff.,,yes, this can be repeated with either name =)
IronMan666Ozz 1 month ago
@IronMan666Ozz hehehe
the26thhour 1 month ago
This movie was NOT great but this soundtrack was WONDERFUL!
CryingZombie666 1 year ago
YOUTUBE!!! Put in a REPEAT BUTTON!!!
Please. :)
MyCrunchyCookie 1 year ago 4
@MyCrunchyCookie just make a playlist and put this video on that playlist twice and then turn autoplay on
Unclesamslair 1 year ago
@rsagan ...
hummerskickass 1 year ago
Awesome song. Sanskirt is a type of Indian language if I remeber well. Very pretty ^_^
stsars13 1 year ago
@stsars13
I agree, awesome song. I believe Sandskrit was a Sumerian language.
JoeBSG1 1 year ago
@JoeBSG1 My bad, I guess Sandskrit is an Indian language. I just watched Temple of Doom.
JoeBSG1 1 year ago
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Spins and turns,angles and curves, the shape of dreams half remembered. Slip the surly bonds of Earth and touch the face of perfection, a perfect face, a perfect lace, find the perfect world for the end of Kara Thrace. End of Line.
matrix0071 1 year ago
The song is indeed sung in Sanskrit. But the lyrics itself is the Gayatri Mantra, a highly revered prayer mantra in Hinduism.
Random fact of the day for all. =D
Joyride37 1 year ago 2
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fabuloso simplemente extraordinario increiblemente muy bueno 10000 puntos el sanscrito hindu es fasbuloso el himno a los dioses de la creacion y destruccio y renacimiento no tiene comparacion simplemente es extraodinario maravilloso
MrCicuta123 1 year ago
fabuloso simplemente extraordinario increiblemente muy bueno 10000 puntos el sanscrito hindu es fasbuloso el himno a los dioses de la creacion y destruccio y renacimiento no tiene comparacion simplemente es extraodinario
MrCicuta123 1 year ago
@drnkbeer2: Thanks :)
localfive0 1 year ago
Cool song. What language is it in, though?
localfive0 1 year ago
@localfive0 The song is sung in Sanskrit.
drnkbeer2 1 year ago
@drnkbeer2 how can you sing in a type of writing? LOL! That would be like saying "THIS SUNG IN ROMAN CHARACTERS"
GeekBoy03 1 year ago
@GeekBoy03 Sanskrit is also a spoken language, jeez i thought that you'd realise that.
drnkbeer2 1 year ago
This is why BSG is so good. Bear Macreary
darthjc1965917 1 year ago
It´s just a wonderful theme. Thanks Bear!
sascha79713 1 year ago
Let's get this genocide started!
The24Hourstolive 1 year ago
the song is great, the show is great all i want to know is what language are they singing in because it is really well done
Gremster7 1 year ago
@Gremster7 Its sung in Sanskrit
drnkbeer2 1 year ago
1) i love this song.
2) you say ftl-drives are SCIENCE-fiction but have problems with imaginary friends? LOL!
3) i love this song
yippieh123 1 year ago
I love this song!
Tomtheflyboy 1 year ago
Is this song out on any cd, and then which one?
LittleMissDodger 1 year ago 6
@LittleMissDodger
Yes, just google The Plan / Razor soundtrack. Well worth getting, there's lots of other great tracks on it.
kodath2 1 year ago 4
@LittleMissDodger Artist : Bear McCreary ; CD : Battlestar Galactica : The Plan & Razor. :)
iToaster360 1 year ago
Love this. The main title theme with a Cylon twist. Hope they release a CD
Davemace 1 year ago
just enjoy the damn music and chill out
Mandelbrotmat 1 year ago
For the first time, I wont even read the rest of the comments, this song is awesome, I loved it from the first time I heard it on BSG.
dacheese13 1 year ago
can't we stop arguing who is right and who is wrong? The meaning of God was not created to explain why are we here and where are we from. The meaning of God is created to put an end to all the war and deaths and genocide that happens because of the eternal "I am better then you!" thing. But it seems it failed... I mean think for a second. Would it matter if God was/wasn't real if there's no one left to believe/ not believe in him? And one very important thing is that this is IMHO!
boggy2411 1 year ago
What's more important is to understand what God represents (happiness, peaceful, empathy, etc.), not which God is real or not but people are so ignorant that they're not listening to God's words but words created by religions to inflict fear upon everyone by saying if you don't believe in this God you'll go to hell. Use your brains for God's sake.
igotbeef7 1 year ago
what they saying at this track and what language is it?
Eraser2G 1 year ago
@Eraser2G The song is in Sanskrit (did I spell it right?)
It translation in English is: (From battlestar wiki)
Oh God! Thou art the Giver of Life,
Remover of pain and sorrow,
The Bestower of happiness,
Oh! Creator of the Universe,
May we receive thy supreme sin-destroying light,
May Thou guide our intellect in the right direction.
anaki101 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure the message of BSG can be boiled down to this: Don't be dicks to one another, put your differences behind you and get along.
nowrongway19 1 year ago 6
Great, just great...
Instead of listening to a beautiful song, with excellent music, you argue about "The One True Religion" and "The One True Atheism". Do you even know what this song is about?
Damn it, can't you put your proverbial balls on ice, take a chill-pill and enjoy something as magnificent as this song? You ain't gonna prove anything here. You can only do the "I am right, you are wrong!" mantra.
Anyway, I just love it how the song begins in a lullaby-like tone and suddenly goes metal.
rapaicruma 1 year ago
Religious debates are stupid so I'm not going to indulge that waste of time. Instead, I'm just gonna sit here and listen to a piece of music that makes goosebumps stand up on my skin in all of the best ways possible. Holy frak those drums are amazing and that voice! Oh man!!!!
Chipchik 1 year ago 4
How did listening to the Gayatri Mantra sung through BSG's The Plan turn into a religious argument. If anything, this alone is why it is so easy to be distracted by arguments of "My God is better than yours" nonsense. Please bother to look up the Gayatri Mantra and understand its meaning and use. It's not remotely considered of whose ears hear it. This is why humanity is so easy to dupe and destroy. They start arguing over whose "godhead" is more valid.
Walkingcedar2006 1 year ago
Agreed. At this rate, we'd end up like the 12 Colonies.
RevanRA 1 year ago
Sure is religious war in here. Take your biblefights somewhere else.
JewishPharaoh 1 year ago 38
@JewishPharaoh
Agreed. :)
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
Can we not have a religous debate on youtube please, We all have the right too our opinions but we don't need to bicker with one another over our ideals do we?
ssxcdave1 1 year ago
@ssxcdave1
I agree, as I've stated many times.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
Well this has been mildly amusing, but do you guys really think YouTube is the best place to be having a religious discussion? It's getting a little out of hand don't you think?
kodath2 1 year ago 34
@kodath2
Peace is an unknown concept to religious zealots and perverters. The most you can do is convince others who are less sure of their beliefs that they pervert their own beliefs. You won't know peace unless religion itself is destroyed.
I refuse to apologize for doing what I feel is right: laying their cards and mine out for others to see the full argument rather than some biased and thoroughly perverted interpretation of Islam, just as I would for Christians and other theists.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
@kodath2 Do you even go here?
Belindashort 1 year ago
"It is important to keep in mind that atheism and agnosticism have no inherent proscription against suicide, so higher rates of suicide among agnostics and atheists should in no way be considered a failure of these belief systems. Indeed, compassionate tolerance for suicide and euthenasia are widely regarded as hallmarks of many secular societies. "
-Kanita Dervic, Maria A. Oquendo, Michael F. Grunebaum, Steve Ellis, Ainsley K. Burke, J. John Mann. "Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt"
storispinner 1 year ago
Nifty.
masterofplanets 1 year ago
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Caprica is great. Thanks for posting. I've just been watching the episodes at capricastreamingonline (.) com
macoupshot52 1 year ago
I love this version of the song. It's amazing!
Just saw the film last night and was blown away. I thought watching Caprica for background was good, but The Plan sheds light on so many things that happen during the series!! :P
Stargatecrazy 1 year ago
Just finished watching the film and was pretty taken back by this version of the song. It is absolutely incredible.
XxDeadParrotxX 1 year ago
The best!!!!
hellboytwo 1 year ago
Well, I can't comment on the quality of their Sanskrit (hey, their Jimi Hendrix wasn't all that great either, except as a mindblower) ... but it's a haunting song, a cultural tribute to Sanskrit at least -- and EERIE as hell, when you fuse it with the idea of the Cylons being off on their religious jihad against God's fallen humans (or, their own misguided jihad in God's name. Funny how becoming HUMAN meant falling into the same human errors and pits, wasn't it?)! BSG was genius, imo.
hauntedmoviehouse 1 year ago 3
Throiughout the Battlestar Gakactuca series the theme of the war bwtween the monotheisitc Cylons and the pagan humans s repeated over and over. In "The Plan" we learn hoiw Cavil was the planner and prime movewr behind the war and he reveals that it wasn't about "the one true God", indeed, he reveals that he doesn't believe in any God at all, He simply used the religion of the Cylons as a means to acheive his own ends - destroying everything.
TullyBascombe 1 year ago
On the other hand, Six repeatedly speaks about her faith in God's plan and the Cylons' divine mission ... and SHE'S still around at the end, after Cavil (?) has cynically commited suicide after his own grandiose 'plans" have been proven empty and doomed.
The point may be that the Cylons are as capable of feeling both true spirituality AND cynical egocentrism as humans are!
The song is still utterly cool, and BSG forever an amazing sci-fi trip!!!
hauntedmoviehouse 1 year ago
True Fact: Athiests commit suicide at a far higher rate than those who believe in a Higher Power.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
True Fact: Millions of people died in wars in the name of religions. Example: Crusades and much more
Uyuzefe 1 year ago
True Fact: Millions of people died in wars in the name of no religion. Example: Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, World War I, World War II, and much more.
Surah72 1 year ago
True Fact: Millions have committed acts of great evil in the name of their God. Example: the genocide of countless native peoples in the name of Christianization.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
Another True Fact: Millions have committed acts of great evil in the name of thier God. Example: the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents in places like India, Israel, and the United States in the name of Allah.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
True Fact: Millions have committed acts of great evil in their own name.
Surah72 1 year ago
So then it's somehow better to die in the name of whatever God or gods you worship than it is to die in your own name? Or maybe because at leat then you have an excuse.
Oh, and by the way, that is actually untrue. Every tyrant from Nero to Adolf Hitler has committed acts of great evil in the name of EVERYTHING ELSE but their own name. Probably because they're smart enough to realize that if they start getting greedy the people will revolt.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
In any event, you would be hard pressed to find someone who committed genocide in their own name without having at least one way out of the quagmire that is human nature. They didn't want to claim responsibility for their actions, thus they claim it to be in the name of their God or gods, in the name of national security, in the name of the free market, or in any other see-through invisibility cloak.
Thus is human nature, and you'll be hard-pressed to find a couter to it.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
We'll see. You made your choice, I've made my own.
At the very least, you cannot say you weren't reminded of the Truth. Even a TV show about people journeying through space taught you about the One, True God.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
What? The truth that every single religious text ascribes infinite power to God or the gods? If God, in whatever form, is omnipotent, then how can you possibly claim to understand It? A TV show taught me nothing except thatbeings try to hide behind God or the gods when they don't know if what they've done is right.
You are yet one more person who hides behind the guise of God when you really have no clue as to what to believe. Is what you believe right, or were you taught that it is?
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
That is the real question. Were you taught that the Qur'an is the one true source of religious truth or do you truly believe it? If you truly believe it to be correct, then you must believe that Allah is omnipotent. If Allah is omnipotent, then how can you possibly claim that you can describe what It believes is right and wrong? Omnipotence is a two-way street and a pitiful excuse for an escape clause.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
I am an American, born into Christianity.
Too long I was taught to rely on 'blind faith', not clear proofs. Too long I was taught to trust the person behind the pulpit, instead of searching for the Truth, instead of using my head and using logic and reason.
So I searched until I found it.
I am told the Quran is a Book whose Author is the Creator. If this is true, then I have a right to ask 'Where is proof?'
Surah72 1 year ago
1400 years ago, the Big Bang and molecular composition of water was revealed to a man. Surah 21:30
This isn't the only scientific miracle revealed in that Book. And these scientific facts are enough to bring Scientists and other learned men and women to Al-Islam.
The Torah, Gospel, and Quran are revealed by our Creator. I have proof of our Creator.
But you are welcome to make your own choice on what you believe, or don't. There is no compulsion in religion. :)
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
Sources:
ajp . psychiatryonline . org/cgi/content/abstract/161/12/2303
watch?v=0IspK651RpY
watch?v=g2ZIgn1K7E4
watch?v=oVBItuyUAJg
Something in the universe loves me. Something in the universe loves the entity that is me.
Allah. Beneficent. Loving. Forgiving. Merciful. :)
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
Incorrect. Surah 21:30 does not mention the molecular composition of water (being hydrogen and oxygen), nor does it mention more than a poetic representation of most astronomical phenomenon. Including the spreading of the canvas of night. I own a copy of the Qur'an as well, and I know full well how poetic it and all holy books are.
And, indeed, I believe despite that. There is no empirical evidence, or else everyone would believe in the God of Abraham. It requires faith and faith alone.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
God does not love you any more than It hates you. Thus is the duality of omnipotence. God is no more beneficient, loving, forgiving, or merciful than it is fickle, hating, condemning, and merciless. Thus is the duailty of omnipotence. Deny one and you deny the other because all adjectives are dependent upon their antonyms for existence. Deny the existence of day and night is denied. Deny the existence of good and evil perishes. Indeed, how can either exist without the other to compare it to?
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
Thus is your dilemma:
Deny Allah is omnipotent, and you deny that the Torah, the Bible, and the Qur'an are true. All three claim Jehovah/God/Allah to be omnipotent and all three are taken by their respective religions to be unquestionable.
Concede that Allah is omnipotent, and you concede that Allah is amoral. Amorality, being the complete lack of morality or immorality, meaning that Allah no more loves you than it hates you.
Which is it?
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
When did I deny our Creator cannot hate?
Strawman rhetoric fails everytime.
To you are your works, and to me are mine. The fact you are striving to get so upset over someone else's beliefs speaks volumes about you and your view of others.
Believe or believe not. I am not a guardian nor am I responsible for you. You make your choices just as I make mine, and we are only responsible for ourselves.
But on the Day of Judgment, you cannot say you were not warned. Even from a TV show. :)
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
In your eyes, it does. That is your choice.
But as you are saying that living things are not created of water, which is the combination of hydrogen and oxygen, then you go against scientists.
Again, you are more than welcome to believe as you want. I will believe as I want as well.
Since you cannot bring proofs, as you stated to MegaManX1415, why should I believe you? :)
Once you go back to believing I am wrong and you are right, you'll feel right as rain.
In the End, we'll know.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
You didn't. You claimed Allah loved you, personally. I counter with the fact that, since It is omnipotent (according to the Qur'an), it no more loves you than hates you, thus is amoral.
I'm not upset about your beliefs. I merely feel sorry that you can't see the truth set before your eyes. We created good and evil or, if not that, then we decided the concept had worth. You haven't warned me of anything I'm not fully aware of. All three main Abrahamic religions condemn me for questioning them.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
Although humans are made up of around 60% water, we aren't solely made from it. Otherwise every time we bathe we would go down the drain. There are other elements, carbon, nitrogen, iron, potassium, and so forth, that are found within our systems and are vital to our existence. The Qur'an is WRONG when it says Allah created us from JUST water.
Because I don't need proof. You made the original claim, that Islam is the one true religion, and I have yet to see concrete evidence for that claim.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
Where is your proof Allah is amoral?
Bring proofs or keep silent, it's wiser.
I understand you are lashing out because of the lifestyle you have chosen. But nowhere in the Quran does it teach that homosexuality is unforgivable.
The only unforgivable sin is associating partners to Allah, not following Him.
Don't let your lifestyle choice keep you from finding our Creator. Ignore the hate found in Christianity.
You are supposed to question. How else do you find answers?
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
You'll have to forgive me, I'm not familiar with the method by which the Qur'an is divided.
Surah 2:129:
O our Sustainer! Raise up from the midst of our off spring an apostle from among themselves, who shall convey unto them Thy messages, and impart unto them revelation as well as wisdom, and cause them to grow in purity: for, verily, Thou alone art almighty, truly wise!
Almighty, a synonym for omnipotent. Omnipotence: a way for a being to exhibit any emotion and all emotion simultaneously.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
Deny Allah is omnipotent, and you deny It can exhibit all emotion simultaneously. Thus, if you deny Allah is omnipotent, you deny that Allah is amoral and thus you deny that Allah is flawless. After all, only a flawless being would be able to truly hate someone and love someone at the same time. Both of which are emotions applied to the Abrahamic God. Sometimes in the same paragraph.
I don't use conventional sources. I use the word of the Qur'an against the word of the Qur'an.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
Surah 29:29 Must you indeed approach men [with lust], and thus cut across the way [of nature]? And must you commit these shameful deeds in your open] assemblies? But his peoples only answer was, Bring down upon us Gods chastisement, if thou art a man of truth!
The Qur'an, like the Bible and Torah, consider all sexual alignments other than heterosexuality to be sins. At the same time they call God omnipotent, thus they call God gay, straight, and all other alignments, and none at all.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
I have found my creator. It is in ALL religions. It is the only way I can reconcile omnipotence. It is in all religions that do not glorify human nature. Christianity, and indeed all religions, are nothing more than concepts. We associate violence with religion because we are afraid to take responsibility for what we create. We associate our actions with God or the gods to absolve ourselves of that responsibility. At the end of it all, a killer who recants on his deathbed still killed innocents.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
I question to find answers, true. The problem being that you are trying to tell me the answers I have found are wrong. You are not one to judge. You are just as fallible as I. I won't know if I'm right until I die. I believe I am right, that is all I have. There is no truth to be found in religion during our lives because that isn't the point of religion. It is an exercise of faith, nothing more and nothing less.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
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You are on the right track. Our Creator revealed to all nations, and some Prophets (pbut) are not spoken of in the Quran.
You are welcome to believe what you want, and seek the Truth where you believe it is. In the End, we will know who is rightly guided.
"Those who believe and do good deeds, for them the Beneficent will surely bring about love." Surah 19:96
"And He is the Forgiving, the Loving," Surah 85:14
May Allah continue to guide us to the Truth.
Peace, tycoonmike3.
Surah72 1 year ago
Omnipotence (from Latin: Omni Potens: "all power") is unlimited power.
All Mighty, All Powerful.
Just as He created the heavens and earth in 6 periods, He did not tire nor need to rest. :)
Look up the definition of omnipotence, as your improper definition is causing your confusion.
The only unforgivable sin is serving others besides our Creator. I'm not perfect; I sin. I have and will, as I am human.
But, I serve only my Creator, give to charity, do good deeds, and pray daily.
It's that easy.
Surah72 1 year ago
And thus you deny that having unlimited power means that one cannot exhibit all emotion and none at the same time. Omnipotence doesn't need to follow human logic. Indeed, if it did, it wouldn't be omnipotence. Your definition, by your own explanation, is just as invalid.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
You fall into the same trap the Christians fall into: If God is All Powerful, He can come into the body of a man and die for man's sins!
Our Creator acts in a Godly manner. He does Godly things, not stupid things. :P
You cannot exhibit all emotions and none at the same time. Your conjecture is flawed, just as saying you can make a square circle is flawed. You are combining words that are meaningless.
You made your choice, tycoonmike3. Live with it, or continue to seek the Truth.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
The problem being what is stupid to you may not be stupid to God. Are you capable of comprehending God? In other words, can you look into the face of God and come out as anything except insane? If you are, then this God is not worthy of our worship. Anything we can comprehend must be as fallible as we are. I do not worship fallible beings, nor do I believe anyone else should.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
Give me proof from the Quran that Allah is capable of not feeling emotion.
I have shown where Allah is Loving, Forgiving.
Where is your proof?
I am not your guardian. It is not up to me to compel anyone to believe or not believe. Each person has their own choice to make.
You choose to not believe. No one is making you do that. You choose to not believe of your own Free Will.
You say the One, True God is fallible. That is your choice.
I am clear of what you set up with Him.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
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Surah 2:129:
O our Sustainer! Raise up from the midst of our off spring an apostle from among themselves, who shall convey unto them Thy messages, and impart unto them revelation as well as wisdom, and cause them to grow in purity: for, verily, Thou alone art ALMIGHTY, truly wise!
If God is almighty, or omnipotent, it must be capable of not feeling emotion. Otherwise, it is just as fallible as we are, thus not worthy of human worship. Do you deny the Qur'an?
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
My "proof" is the Qur'an itself. This alone should prove that there is no proof that the Qur'an is infallible. Indeed, if it were, there would only be one interpretation of it. You do not know that the Qur'an is infallible, so do not parade around as though you're the next prophet.
I never said God was infallible. If you had understood what I said, this entire debate has been simply following your own logic through to its very end.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
You stop short of actually calling a spade a spade and realizing that these books, the Qur'an, the Bible, the Torah, and indeed the Upanishads, the Tao Te Ching, and all holy books in existence, even if inspired by God, were written by MEN. They were written by fallible creatures, thus are fallible themselves. Considering, therefore, that all organized religions have at least one text, in and of itself flawed, all organized religions are themselves flawed.
The Mathematical Law of Identity.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
Yet you bring no proofs.
Explanation is not proof.
Use your head. Think.
Either way, it's your choice.
There is only One, True God.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
As is the way. I provide the exact same evidence you have (the Qur'an) and you claim I provide none. You are just like all other theists who don't understand the burden of proof lies with the person making the original claim. You have originally claimed that Allah is the one true God, you have claimed how Allah loves you, and you claimed that Islam is the one true faith. You've provided no more proof than I have. The difference being it is not my responsibility.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
You are just as bad as all the cafeteria Christians. You expect me to prostrate myself to Allah because of your quotations, but when I provide counter quoations, you write them off as not being evidence simply so you don't have to question your own beliefs and your own God. You don't want to admit that, according to your own belief, we're not supposed to question Allah. Show me one Surah that says we're supposed to question the almighty benefaction and decisions of Allah. Do that, and I leave.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
I don't expect you to do anything except what you choose to do.
I am not responsible for you, nor am I your guardian.
The right way is clear from the wrong way. In the End, no one will have any excuses.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
There's your proof.
Again, tycoonmike3, I do not expect you to do anything but what you choose to do of your own Free Will. There is no compulsion in religion.
Believe or believe not. I am not a guardian.
But do not say you were not given the Message, nor reminded of the Truth of our Lord.
There is only One, True God: Allah.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
Where are the Surahs and ayats to back up your claims?
You bring nothing except Ad Hominum and Insults.
That is your proof? :P
Show me in the Quran where Allah states He feels no emotion, as you claim. Bring proof if you speak truthfully.
There is only One, True God: Allah.
Explanation is not proof.
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
The defense of the beaten: call an opponent's arguments a logical fallacy and be done with it. The defense of the ignorant: the explanation of evidence is not proof. The defense of the foolish: to ignore an entire source and claim an opponent's arguments are beaten because of it. Explanation is proof because without an explanation the proof is nothing. If you can't explain it, it is not proof. Any scientist will tell you that.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
The only proof I need is the surah claiming Allah to be omnipotent. From that, my entire argument is derived. That is the beauty of my position: deny the truth of my proof and you deny the truth of your proof. Concede that my proof is true and you concede to my argument. There's no third direction, either Allah is omnipotent or Allah is not. Which is it?
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
@tycoonmike3
17:36And follow not that of which you have not the knowledge; surely the hearing and the sight and the heart, all of these, shall be questioned about that.
Dabo614 1 year ago
Sure, you could run away. Perhaps that is because you accede that, logically, I am right? Do you accept the notion that Allah is omnipotent?
In either case, this line tells you to question unbelievers, not God Almighty. You've failed, yet again, to say to me that believers are told in the Qur'an to question the Word of Allah.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
@tycoonmike3
4:94O you who believe! when you go to war in Allah's way, make investigation, and do not say to any one who offers you peace: You are not a believer. Do you seek goods of this world's life! But with Allah there are abundant gains; you too were such before, then Allah conferred a benefit on you; therefore make investigation; surely Allah is aware of what you do.
Dabo614 1 year ago
@tycoonmike3
49:6O you who believe! if an evil-doer comes to you with a report, look carefully into it, lest you harm a people in ignorance, then be sorry for what you have done.
mike do you need anymore proof that we are charged with using our brains, eyes, and ears? That we are told to question things, and verify them, and not just blindly follow them? You asked for one, i gave you 3
peace
Dabo614 1 year ago
None of which say you should question Allah. The first, considering how Allah is omnipotent and thus unknowable to us finite beings, is an impossible statement. The second tells you to question ones motives before making war in the name of Allah, nothing more. The third tells you to question evil-doers, not Allah.
You have done nothing. Try again.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
@tycoonmike3
17:45And when you recite the Quran, We place between you and those who do not believe in the hereafter a hidden barrier;
46And We have placed coverings on their hearts and a heaviness in their ears lest they understand it, and when you mention your Lord alone in the Quran they turn their backs in aversion.
peace
Dabo614 1 year ago
@tycoonmike3
You are supposed to question things,,,if you truly read the Quran you would know that Allah tells us to use the brain he gave us and verify info, not just blindly follow what we are told,,,,also the Quran does not say we are ONLY made of water, we are made of the elements of the earth as well,,,read, study, ponder, and pray, Allah will show you
peace
Dabo614 1 year ago
What I have said to Surah also goes for you. Give me one surah that says we're supposed to question the almighty benefaction and decisions of Allah.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
"And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful." Surah 2:111
"And We will draw forth from among every nation a witness and say: Bring your proof; then shall they know that the truth is Allah's, and that which they forged shall depart from them." Surah 28:75
Surah72 1 year ago
"Say: Have you considered if the chastisement of Allah should overtake you suddenly or openly, will any be destroyed but the unjust people?" Surah 6:47
"Have you not considered your Lord, how He extends the shade? And if He had pleased He would certainly have made it stationary; then We have made the sun an indication of it." Surah 25:45
"He said: Have you then considered what you have been worshiping:" Surah 26:75
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
None of which say you should question Allah. The first questions the Judeo-Christian belief that only Jews and Christians enter heaven. The second is simply a restatement of how truth is only in Allah. The third and fourth further demands one not to question Allah. The fifth questions what one has been worshiping in an attempt to discredit other, non-Abrahamic religions.
You've done nothing. Try again.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
Cite your Source. Every single god damn one of you...and If I hear one person say Wikipedia....
MegaManX1415 1 year ago
ajp . psychiatryonline . org/cgi/content/abstract/161/12/2303
Surah72 1 year ago
@MegaManX1415
Simple: none. I have only used what Surah has used against him.
tycoonmike3 1 year ago
I dont think BSG is Sci-Fi. With all the imaginary
friends i think BSG is Fantasy. Unless they
are aliens and/or implanted cylon-chips.
What ever happened to Starbuck when she
"died"? (A wizard did it?)
The first 2 seasons where beyond awesome
sci-fi.
But then it, very sadly, fizzled out in a abysmal
mess.
uuu64 1 year ago
@uuu64 You make a good point about the possibility of BSG being fantasy as opposed to sci-fi because of those virtual beings and Starbuck coming back as an angel. WTF?!? This show has always prided itself on its emphasis on gritty realism and hard sci-fi. But with all these virtual beings popping up, as well as Starbuck returning as an angel was getting ridiculous. But I came up with a plausible explanation: after Starbuck "die" everybody was smoking pot and hallucinated that she came back. LOL!
KnightInExile7 1 year ago
@KnightInExile7 i doubt that... in te first season Roslyn was having visions, prophecies, you dont have anymore mystic than that! If you didnt catch the vibe at first dont come bitchin if it bit you in the ass while you were still trying to figure out stuff!
lykan21 1 year ago
@lykan21 Actually, I do remember Roslyn having those visions and yes, they were mystical, but the part about Starbuck coming back as an angel was really pushing it. But introspective, I now understand that it is open to interpretation, so anyone can think and decide for themselves and I respect the show's writers for that. :)
KnightInExile7 1 year ago
@uuu64
To be fair, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
I felt the ending was probably as strong as they could make it... they did paint themselves into a corner, in a sense, with the various head-people.
But at the same time, it's usually the case that questions are more interesting than answers. IMO they did a fairly good job tying up the questions they could, but at least still leaving it fairly open.
squeezybox 1 year ago
@uuu64 When this is Fantasy Warcraft III is a realistic WW2 game xD
benutzer29915022 1 year ago
Aren't all of "the gods" on BSG greek? Shouldn't the songs be greek then?
Six didn't plan and instigate the genocide of humanity. She, like the other human Cylons, was duped by Cavil, who used her religious beliefs to motivate her to carry out his plan. The only person Cavil reveals his true beliefs and motives to is another copy of himself.
TullyBascombe 1 year ago
The human "gods" obviously have Greek names (just as the colonies have Zodiacal-sounding names). The "One God" that the Cylons discuss may be Someone totally different (tho the "prophecies" and scriptures seem to overlap ... but that's like debating whether GOD can co-exist in OUR universe where both God and Physics apply. They can.)
hauntedmoviehouse 1 year ago
The wonderful theme song actually increases the coolness and mystery of BSG by NOT being "Greek" ... by hinting that human religion was MORE than the "greek" aspects ... but mostly all we're shown are the "greek" aspects, yes.
No, Cylon Six didn't 'plan or instigate' their jihad. :) The BSG series is spooky and beautiful in how it reveals that they were ALL pawns in a cosmic epic: Cavil was as much a pawn in unfolding the Divine scheme as everyone else was.
hauntedmoviehouse 1 year ago
Part 3 ...
Some play their roles through their FAITH, others play their role through their EGOTISM or DOUBT or CYNICISM.
They all work towards the Divine will, it seems. They all dance to the Divine Will, even having their Free Will.
hauntedmoviehouse 1 year ago
The One True God is Allah, (Elah in the Old Testament, Bible.)
Watch the ending episode, where Angel Six and Angel Baltar are discussing the human race. and Angel Baltar says "You know He doesn't like that name."
Peace.
Surah72 1 year ago
I really enjoyed this movie and the entire series. A shame that all things are transient.
sonofcy 1 year ago
Damn right mate!
Armatige 1 year ago