How do you figure Hamas is willing to do all of this when they have voiced otherwise en mass in the streets? Nothing fascist? The USA has not denied the the right of a Palestinian homeland. He is completely making it up when he says Israelis in general will not accept international agreements what so ever. Why does he not bring up France, Germany, or many other countries that work with Israelis and Palestinians not to fuel flames like himself? This also should have been in full context.
So basically neither side is sincere in their desire for peace? all the negotiations and all this relatively low level skirmish warfare is futile... wasn't that obvious to begin with? I fail to see how a pack of brutal Islamic supremacist thugs with violent ambitions agreeing with International consensus is more conducive to peace, I doubt Chomsky has anything good to say about any country in the world so why would a consensus between these corrupt nations impress anyone? Useless world view.
1st point, no they are a terrorist organisation because they purposefully target civilians and they use terror tactics. I'm pretty sure the rest isn't worth watching because Chomsky is such an ideologue that he probably doesn't even realise he is lying.
This is bullshit, Mr. Chomsky. I'm Palestinian and I don't want Hamas or any other dirty Islamists to "liberate" the West Bank. Of course even if the jihadists want to, they can't (the IDF is the 4th most powerful army in the world). But suppose they can, they would only turn Palestine into another Islamic Republic, oppressing Christians, destroying womens' rights, abolishing freedom.
Israel is a lunatic state and the occupation must end, but I wish Israel can destroy all the arsenals of Hamas.
The statement from 6:40 to 6:47. THIS is the reason Chomsky is a demi-god to leftists, a comrade-in-spirit to terrorists, and essentially, a traitor to western civilization. The most disgusting thing about Chomsky is his relativist views towards militant muslims.
@oldstock1607 he doesn't have relativist views towars militant Muslims. He is simply emphazising that the accusers accuse the accused of what the accusers should be accused of. Let me know if you're brain is too slow to comprehend that, i'll give you the third grade version
@BigBallaShotCalla15 I sincerely doubt that an individual calling himself "BigBallaShotCalla" is capable of educating me on any subject. And Chomsky absolutely DOES have relativist views towards militant muslims. They're right here, in this video, in his own words. Bear in mind, this is the same individual, who only a few short years back had the gall to say "antisemitism is not really a problem anymore." Anti-semitism is not only alive and well, but is now part of the "progressive" platform
first let me say this: presupposing the intellectual potential of an individual based on their youtube username is utterly bigoted, especially coming from a person whose username is no more professional. Keep your doubts running, I'll keep my brain functioning beyond the level of the average child.
Second: in this video he clearly states that he denounces virtually all policies of a militant islamic group. what you failed to understand was that he stated the US and Israel are far more guilty
@BigBallaShotCalla15 yeah? offended by condescension? then maybe you shouldn't approach individuals with the offer to give them "the third grade version," if [their] brain is too slow to comprehend" something. You began with the condescension. And anyone who is honest with themselves and is familiar with Chomsky's mind-numbingly simplistic approach to understanding this 1400 year old conflict is well aware that his "condemnation" of Hamas and Hizbollah is half-hearted and perfunctory. He is,
@oldstock1607 without question, the leading western apologist for muslim extremism in that part of the world. He, along with that also intellectually dishonest Norman Finkelstein, have succeeded in convincing millions of leftists worldwide that supporting some of the nastiest terrorists in the world and denouncing the Israelis for their legitimate use of force in self-defense is somehow "progressive." There are actually people in the world (yourself included?) who truly believe that the palestin
@oldstock1607 ians are just perfectly innocent angels who are just constantly harrassed and oppressed by the Jews. what a joke. The Palestinians are very much the authors of their current situation. I have never once heard Chomsky acknowledge that anti-judaism is a fundamental tenet of Islam, and why would he? He doesn't believe anti-semitism exists, and Muslims certainly aren't honest on this facet of their religion.
@oldstock1607 I base my condescension on the ignorance of a statement, you base it on a YouTube name. I'm not sure it requires an in depth understandng of quantum physics to understand that these are vastly different. It only seems "half-hearted" because he's not giving you what you used to seeing on television. he's giving you what you refuse to read and research. if we are to treat Muslim terrorists with aggressiveness, then how are to treat the far more egregious US and Israeli terrorists?
@BigBallaShotCalla15 Well, there was nothing ignorant about my original statement. Indeed, it was spot-on. I imagine that you feel the way you do because you are making the same fatal error that Chomsky does: letting your leftist sensibilities and emotions, rather than logic, determine your political opinions. I see you are 21. I too was all full of righteous (and misplaced) indignation at that tender age. When you grow up, and live in the real world for a while, I assure you, your opinions will
@oldstock1607 change dramatically. You are probably the product of public schools, which have, for the past forty years, been little more than left-wing indoctrination camps. You could probably recite me MLK's entire biography and yet if I asked you about, the Kansas-Nebraska act, I'd hear crickets. Maybe you're in college right now, Just lapping up that leftist pablum. Do you have a terror scarf that you wear to class? Do you boycott Israeli goods?
@oldstock1607 Basing someone's intellect on their youtube username isn't ignorant? and you say you use knowledge?
it's not a political opinion when stating claims using facts, as Chomsky does. Chomsky is merely delineating the blatant hypocrisy of the US and Israel. He is saying, by the Us's and Israel's definition of "terrorist," then by thier definition, they themselves are terrorist governments. This is what history teaches us, not that ooblong box in your living room
@BigBallaShotCalla15 I don't watch TV, ever. So you can cease with the pretentiousness on that score. I read, and have read just about everything Chomsky has ever written. All Chomsky "delineates" is his own archetypical left-wing extremism. Every statement, every opinion he advances PROCEEDS from an indictment of the west, and the U.S. and Israel in general. His policy is to blame the west first, and act as a fawning sycophant and apologist to terrorists, pirates and criminals the world over.
@BigBallaShotCalla15 Watch the video where he is pontificating on Somali pirates. I almost burst into laughter when he IMMEDIATELY shifted the blame from the pirates themselves to western nations. It's like a knee-jerk reaction to this man. How about holding the somalis themselves responsible for their situation? Is it remotely possible that their not having an effective government since 1992 is to blame? He certainly has no problem holding the American public responsibel for their leadership.
chomsky is notorious for this. his dubious predictions - US invasion of afghanistan will create famine and millions of musilms will starve (false), pol pot genocide was imperialist propaganda (false, he murdered 30% of cambodia's population), israel is responsible for all wars in the middle east (false, 99% of all wars in ME fought independent of israel)
the list goes on. but people worship chomsky like a god. he is immune from attack.
@ImNeilPatrickHarris Indeed. His formula, as Christopher Hitchens describes it: an "insertion of a deniable but particularly objectionable innuendo" prefaced with a "pitying tone of condescension" really seems to strike a chord with the self-loather inherent in most leftist-extremists. Hopefully history will remember this man as one who prostituted his values for the sake of relativism, or even better, a man who had no concrete moral values at all.
"The figure of 1 million potential deaths was reported by the highly respected correspondent of the FEER, Nayan Chanda, attributed to a high US official."--Chomsky on Pol Pot's genocide. Not exactly denying it.
As for the Afghanistan invasion causing a famine, it was a real danger that thankfully did not materialize, as it had done with the Soviet invasion.
Utilizing "facts" should help improve your diatribes.
chomsky extolled the virtues of pol pot, complained muslims were not being massacred in kosovo and it was a NATO conspiracy, ignores the Red Terror in Ethiopia, and manically obsesses with nations such as Israel while apologizing for brutal methods of communist states and traditional enemies of the US.
And don't give Israel beef about "stolen land." You're living in stolen land.
you gentiles are Pathetic Always take some jew and make him god or Messiah just like the jesus and kerl marx and know this noam chomsky did you ever wondering why is this all your biggst gods and messiah and your intellectuals from right and left are jewish and you wonder how we the jews call are self the chosen people dont diss this
comment in 100 yreas from know your kids will things that holly histroy just like your Fathers Though't even the arebs belive in a jewish idea of god
@bigverybadtom that's not true. He stated they they were distorted and exaggerated in the press because these atrocities were committed by enemies of the US. (Cambodia), as opposed to equal or slightly worst crimes committed by our friends (ex Indonesia) that received little to no press attention.
@MrJoeBlunt It's true all right. First he denied them, and when confronted with the truth he changed his story, using "the USA is just as bad" excuse as he always does. I still stand by my statement.
@bigverybadtom "I still stand by my statement." of course you do.He never denied the crimes of Khmer rouge nor did he ever justify them.so you are sticking to your argument,one that you do not have any evidence for,none what so ever.
Interesting. He seems to consider "policies of hamas are more conductive to peace than those of Isreal or USA". Well, personally I find it interesting he considers them as offers made in good faith, while he doesn't seem to consider them Taqiya and a stall tactic to leverage a better military situation. Furthermore, I haven't heard him say at any time that it is interesting that prior to 1967, when Jordan controlled the west bank, for the creation of Palestine. In other words, its not as simple.
Palestinians inhabited their land for thousands of years before the Synagogue of Satan stole it away in 1948 just as the native American indians inhabited their land for 11,000 years before it was stolen away.
@thereinliesgreatness The Arabs in the land now called Palestine came there as conquerors and colonizers after the Muslim conquest of the area, indeed, many if not most of them arrived after the establishment of the Ottoman Empire.
It's kind of nice to see an american who knows what's really going on outside of his country. Gives hope to the rest of the world, things could change if the media starts to be more objective on what they broadcast. And unfortunately there's also a big tendence of the whole West to deffend american policies on the middle east, that's quite a disappointment
"suppose that Al-Qaeda had succeeded in attacking the white house, killing the president, installing military dictatorship,...,which killed 50000-100000....". He doesn't see that it is exactly what happened after 2001 in Iraq and Afghanistan where thousands of people were killed and we still, until now, cannot find any proof of nuclear weapon in Iraq or catch Bin Laden?!!
US people should know that wars are financed by tax payers, but oil revenues goes to oil companies owners (president and co)
A bunch of homicidal maniacs have policies which are preferable to that of the US and Israel? If Israel retreats back to the pre 1967 borders it will simply become too small to defend itself against a combined military force which really has it's act together. This has not happened yet because many of the hostile forces do not really like or trust one another, but what if a powerful leader could unite them as an effective force?
@HelgiWartooth777 then Israel is fucked? won't that happen if they don't get out of there?
BECAUSE they occupy Palestine, there is so much hatred against them in the region. Hezbollah says they are willing to accept peace with Israel if the will of the palestinian people is met, and the will of the people there is a two state solution, so no, why would any of the "enemies" of Israel attack them if they end the occupation? They're not the imperialists here, Israel is.
@grantorgeir Yes and no, on the one hand Israel is occupying what is generally perceived to be Palestinian territory, on the other hand the boundries set by Lord Mt Batton have never been fully recognized by many tribes in the area. TransJordan was the largest territory of Palestine during the British Occupation, the Brits then said 'Jews over here and others who don't want to live with them here.' Many left on their own and the result is Israel. After the Six Day War, Jerusalem was captured.
@HelgiWartooth777 cont. The problems facing Israel are actually worse in many ways than they might appear to a secular thinker on the surface. The mere presence of a "Jewish" stronghold is an affront to many fundamentalist thinkers in Islam, in short their agenda is one of total destruction. Moving Israel back to pre 1967 borders is merely stage one. Your initial acessment is in many ways is correct on the surface, certainly in the short run anyway, what no one is saying what's really happening
@HelgiWartooth777 Yes, there is descrimination in Israel towards Palestinians which are deemed "untrustworthy." There is also a larger presence in the IDF of Palestinians than most people know of, in fact many of them have won medals for valor. Ironic. There is also a presence of Israeli leftists who empathize with their struggle. In fact, there is inter marriage, I should know, I had a Palestinian Girlfriend from Birzat. An assimilation is taking place, and it's not to the liking of exteremists
@HelgiWartooth777 What comes out of this assimilation is just about anybody's guess. Should the Jews simply jump ship and go back to Germany, Poland and Russia? IS that practicle? Probably not. Will Israel look the same 50 years from now? Probably not. I'm guessing that secular thinkers are going to have to carry the day and will probably unite from both sides, some sort of moderate sanity has to overrule the loonies on both sides. Using religion as a pretext for war is a disaster.
@HelgiWartooth777 Interesting to hear, as we foreign to the problem don't see much besides MSM garbage(both sides). I personally wish for people like you and your former GF to live life in peace. I think war is the ultimate racket, and is abominable. Unfortunately, there are people that stand to profit on the human losses on both sides so I don't see continuous low scale warfare will go away any time soon.
I feel sad for people like Chomsky, Edward Said etc, but must feel some regret and bitterness that the world chose to the be ignorant and nothing is changing....
Thats what I'm wondering. You lot are all together useless and with the USSR gone of no strategic value. Though I think you need protection from your recently arrived islamic immigrants that is a domestic issue.
"Though I think you need protection from your recently arrived islamic immigrants that is a domestic issue."
Why any more protection from recently arrived islamic immigrants than from Jewish or Christian or Hindu immigrants?
Firstly, Muslims are not just "recent" immigrants, two captains with Columbus were Muslim, a third of the the African slaves were Muslims, Muslims fought for America's independence, fought in the civil war.
Secondly, Israelis spy against America and get pardoned
Why do we need some companies who don't need to listen to us to control targets of drone attacks? Are those drones weapon really ours or is it merely our money building them for someone else? Why should NATO be always US leaded but we can't stop any of their acts through our public opinions.
Chomsky (who fancies himself a modern-day Elijah) criticizes King Ahab for his dictatorial practice of condemning Elijah as a hater of Israel by identifying himself "with the people, the country, and the culture." Yet, just a few minutes earlier, Chomsky did the very same thing when describing President Bush's criteria for defining a terrorist state. Just b/c Bush thinks that any state that harbors terrorists is a "terrorist state", that doesn't mean the American populace thinks this way.
This is true. However, my point still holds true that Chomsky hastily commits of the very sort of faulty analogy that he condemns just a few minutes earlier.
You really don't understand this statement? he finds them unacceptable, in isolation, but preferable to something he considers much worse. As in: the acts of the serial killer were unacceptable, but preferable in comparison to much worse crimes, like Hitler's. In this context, the word "preferable" does not signify an endorsement. the actions of all parties are bad, but some are better than others. in the begining of the interview, chomsky states he against virtually all of Hamas' policies.
useruk..u are just insults and no debate. schooner gave u the exact response .. i guess it was too good for u to debate back.. cause u had nothing to say
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Sorry I'm not on youtube every day anxious to debate whether or not the ignoramus noam chomsky is anything other than an attention whore, pol pot loving spin doctor.
yes, in other words - hamas, an islamic mafia gangster movement that burns down churches, extorts palestinian businesses, practices disgusting polygamy, and murders rivaling arab movements is preferable to....israel, a progressive rational nation ruled by law and not religion?
right right, israel=nazi germany/hitler. like we haven't heard that b.s analogy before.
chomsky is a rogue resident jew. he courts controversy. DONT CRITICIZE HIM or else you must be part of the "lobby"
"unacceptable, but preferable TO THE POLICIES OF THE US AND ISRAEL"
remember to finish your quotes and not take words out of context bud
If you still don't understand his statement from a linguistic perspective, try reading a book, or practicing some grammar.
And why take issue with the linguistic aspect of his statement (the part taken out of context, anyways), and in the same breath say he is not being factual? Pick an argument.
By the way, it IS factual, your intellectual capabilities aside
Your just angry because this idiot, whose deluded and inane rhetoric you admire so very much, has once more demonstrated to the world what an ignorant buffoon he really is. Hamas has openly stated it will never accept a two state solution, and has already broken several peace accords. lol you and chomsky are both dim-witted clowns.
hm, who dont you respond to what i said to you? You keep simply saying im dumb, chomsky is inane, etc.
WEAK.
Hamas' leaders have been endorsing the two state solution for MANY YEARS. Oh, and Hamas has broken peace accords?!? Goodness no!! Gee, Israel and the US have NEVER done anything like that!!
The most recent cease-fire was broken by an Israeli raid!
Why are "WE" allowed to do whatever the FUCK we want, and "THEY" are seen as barbarians even when our record is FAR worse than theirs?!?
You didn't say anything of any intellectual significance that would warrent a response. Hamas' charter clearly states that there can be no two state solution:
"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors." And they demonstrated their adherence to this by perpetrated numerous suicide bombings and other terrorist attacks inorder to sabotage the Oslo Peace Accords.
Again, i know this is difficult for you to understand, but Chomsky said (correctly) that Hamas is a terrible organization, but that their policies are MORE conducive to peace the the US and Israel's.
Speak comparatively when you attempt to counter this claim. You can run around saying "hamas is bad! hamas is bad!" and you will not be disagreeing with Chomsky at all.
Failure as a linguist . . . ??? haha. Reading your posts shows the world you're not a linguist. And calling him a failed linguistic _____ something, shows that you know nothing about Linguists or modern day ACADEMIC" discussions on language creation, patterning, or functions.
You hate his Academia for his political views. Your fear of thought provokes condemnation. And your lackluster comprehension feeds your ego with a solid argument. But you sound silly. no worries, its just youtube.
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Last time I checked there was an increasing consensus amongst linguists that this sexually perverse charlatan stole his theories from a professor who taught at the University of Pennsylvania during the 1930s. As for his political views, I find them less thought provoking then I do insulting not only to the western world, but to myself, as he expects me to believe the half-truths and fabrications he bases them on. Get his semen out of your eyes and face facts retard.
You're nothing but a troll on the internet, and yet you accuse Chomsky of being an attention whore? All you do is insult, you're a waste of brain power (what amount of it there is).
There lived jews along with Muslims in Palestine for thousands of years if I'm not wrong. The only reason Muslims now are more aggressive to jews is because Israel is being a violent bitch.
I am joining my voice with Doffz0r caaling you a faggot becuase that's what you are...who cares what is Hamas constitution if we are speaking about Justice and moral and the right things to do...who started with crimes and drove populance from their lands on the tip of a gun...Hamas clearly said we can't swallow "a recognition of israel" now, its like asking them to sell their pride...but they say we can leave that decision to future generations..since when the victim has to accept conditions?
hmm...it seems that you have a lot in common with Doffz0r your both angry biggots, and your both irrationaly, and suspicously homophobic. Why don't you fuck yourself and fuck each other.
Yassar Arafat's 'idol' the grand mufti of jerusalem was raving nazi who was planning to build concentration camps in israel to exterminate any jews who escaped there. If this weren't the case things would be different.
if you think any body will pat attension to the whole bullshit logic u are selling..u r dreaming...babe...you don't offer the palestinians you land out of good will, it is the opposite, ur asking them in a very rude impolite racist way to let you live on a land that u have stolen from them, it is like that's it you are only allowed the bread crumbs you two legged beasts.well hon we are not we are gonna shove a stick up ur israeli ass until u get to some sense or u loose it all and go back to
to the europian ghettos you came from..the whole world know know that u are nothing than some god damn russian payed by the US to work as their gurad gods in the middle east nothing mpre nothing less..when you country stops being the Mafia it is then we can start looking at u differently. otherwise u race me I will stick my dick in ur ass all way up until u can't breathe..all the land is my intrinsic right, and there is no back off from that right or concept.
if you see urself as a better being than I am well it is all in ur head, I did put that shit in ur head..its probabely hilter who did that when he was roosting ur mama in the oven,,,when Just,honest and moral people like Naom speaks lean to keep u mouth shut.
Hitler branded you mama on her butt in Auchwitz. The tatoo reads "from Hitler with love"..I bet or not even a jew...you are an american = a fecal mass in the form of a human being.
you don't say that my mother was branded by hitler than ask me questions.
you are filthy jealous human being, and again, your mother is probably a sex slave...which is actually a very real possibility, not the weird and scary bullshit you posted about me
Sorry that was off the edge, I do not believe you are a jew anyways...not to say that I would have told that to a zionist BECAUSE zionism and all it advocates is pure racism and evil...lies bending the facts to coverup the truth..that ethnic cleansing happened, and a huge compensation for vixtims is required...1)Right of Return 2) offical appology form the gov of israel after zionism is defeted iside israel tp the pals for several years of agony and humiliation, lies, tyranny and coverups.
The palestinians have recieved more aid and attention, have rejected more than any 'displaced' people on the planet. 3000 sri lankens died and nobody heard about it. It's because the palestinian are banking on anti-semetism, and overwhelming arab numbers to destroy israel. The arab nations are still invested in nazism. The arab league is protecting Omar al-Bashir and chastising the ICC for infringing in the muslim world.
These are dangerous nieghbours. The second israel's defenses fall there would be a massive bombardment of terrorist attacks. European and arab media hold israel to such a high standard, treat it with contempt and suspicion, and don't miss an oppurtunity to appeal to hatred rather than reason and fairness. Certianly more palestians have been killed by hamas fasicm than israel self-defense.
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Right on. What amazes me is that so many on the political Left hate Israel and apologize for Hamas, when Hamas would cut their throat if they actually lived under a Hamas led government.
The idea of massive bombardment of Israel is supposed to sound dangerous and scary, but of course no one expresses the same distress over massive bombardment of Palestine, which is not only common and taken for granted, but kills many more civilians than Palestinian attakcs on Israeli targets.
The palestiani leadership has been offered there own state several times, (with compensation for displaced arabs from 48, and partial RETURN) and they have refused it, choosing a long and brutal war instead. I don't want anyone to suffer, israeli's or palestinians, and I do not agree with israel's policies, but that is the reality of modern warfare. I"m not sure where you live, but you have no idea the cost of your comfort on the developing world. If you want to work towards ending suffering
Palestinian leadership has been offered a viable state, with massive aid, compensation for displaced arabs, and partial return of refugees. I don't want anyone to suffer, palestinian or israeli, and in fact I don't agree with the occupation. This is how modern warfare is fought, would you risk your life, or your child's life, to protect the life of someone who prays for your death. The greatest threat to the welfare of palestinians is there own leadership, not israel.
I'm not sure where you live, but you have no idea of the kind of unnecesary suffering other people live through everday. If you want to make the world a better place, why don't you work towards ending commodity trading on agricultural products? This is something you can actually effect right now.
How do my opinioins on Israeli terrorism suggest that I am out of touch with people's suffering? On the contrary, I am much more moved by the suffering of Palestinians who are starving, economically strangled, politically stifled, have their movement illegally controlled and are the daily victims of a sustained terrorist war carried out by the most well financed military in the history of the world then I am the suffering of Israelis who can't enjoy their espresso bars and high-end boutiques
there are massive problems with poverty and unemployment due to influxes of uneducated immigrants, and hasids who have 8 kids and teaches nothing practical to any of them.
Palestinians HAVE NOT been offered a legitimate state. Israel or any country from the West would NEVER accept what Palestinians have been offered.
There is a lot of trashy propaganda that says Palestinians have repeatedly been offered their own state. Period. But they have ACTUALLY been offered a cantonized area, with no sovereignity, and with much of the most valuable land lopped off and kept by Israel.
Please be careful with your information. Make sure you have the real record.
More revisionist histoy. If you read an *actual* account of the political history of the conflict (i.e. one that Alan Derschowitz would not consider legitimate, one that actually has some semblance of truth to it, etc.) you would see that the Palestinian leadership has supported a two-state settlement for over 3 decades, but the settlement has been blocked by the rejectionism of the US and Israel which refuses to address the human rights of Palestinians.
I'll call your bluff. Show me your historical sources. Read bill clinton's reaction to the breakdown of camp david, and the PLO"s response to the clinton parameters. That's enough for me. Lets not forget the rejection of resolution 242.
Israel isn't perfect either, the settlements are the biggest blcok to peace, but you have to prove to me that palestinians have working towrads peace.
The ample documentary record contradicts your, Dershowitz's, and Clinton's postulation.
This record recounts that peaceful settlement could have been attained at the Taba Summit, and would have, if not for Israel pulling out under the false pretext of elections. The most prominent reports are those by Ron Pundak (from the Shimon Peres Peace Center), David Matz, and Miguel Moratinos (the EU appointee for the Summit).
what happened at camp david 2 & taba is really the basis for my support of israel in it`s voilence as self defense. It`s simple, if peace isn`t going to be possible than you have to do what you can to protect your own population
These sources confirm that it was Israel's rejectionism, not Arafat's, that obstructed peaceful settlement.
Notions au contraire are simply fanciful sophistries designed to hide the truth. Clinton's word is as meaningless as Bush reassuring us that we're in Iraq for democracy, or Reagan's absurd claim that Nicaragua was an existential threat.
If interested in learning rather than exemplifying myopic, ideological dogmatisms, PM me and I'll link the references.
Chomsky is says that Hamas is willing to accept the International Consensus as a long term truce, but he omits to mention that it continues to insist on the right of return of 3 million descendants of refugees to Israel, a demand which means in practice, the replacement of Israel as a Jewish state by bi-national state, bordering a Palestinian State. This is unethical, considering the fact that for 60 years, everything was done by arab countries to perpetuate and exacerbate the refugee crisis.
I think he only knows English and Hebrew. But that isn't what linguistics is about, its a study about the structure. development, and usage of language and how it shaps human thought and activity.
Thanks for getting back. Although I realise you didn't answer any of my points. It's ok, don't worry. I won't ask you to tell me how Chomsky is wrong as you will be forever trying to come up with something.
Instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks. Listen to the man and many like him (although very few in the same league) expand your mind and learn.
Sorry I have to agree with alwayswilling123. Thirty years ago, when I was a high-school student, I believed this man was the most intelligent man on the planet. I couldn't how come no-one around realized it. Today, I look at him as the incarnation of Stupidity. It happens often, says Kant, to find very instructed people revealing, in the way they make use their science, that uncurable vice of Stupidity. This is very true for Noam Chomsky.
"King Ahab...condemned the prophet Elijah for being a "hater of Israel." The reason Elijah was a hater of Israel is because he was criticizing the acts of the evil King. And the King, like totalitarians throughout history identified the state, himself, with the people, the country, the culture. So if you criticize state policy you are a hater of Israel, a hater of America, or a hater of Russia. So yes, I'm delighted to be in that company."
Let's not forget what Israel's ideology is: authocratic and totalitarian, totally opposed to Western values of free speech and religious liberty, totally ignoring women's rights or children's rights, and dedicated to the annihilation of it's neighbors...
I am educating myself on the History of Islam, only to discover that 1300 years ago its power has swept off the east of the Roman Empire, treathened to submerge Europe and was stopped at the gates of Vienna only 200 years ago. That Mohammed was no founder of a pacific religion like Jesus, but the leader of his community who knew exactly what he wanted and had a precise idea of the ways to get it. The merchant became a preacher, then a politician, and ended up a dictator and a brilliant warlord.
Now I am educating myself on how Mohammed, the military chief, convinced his men that the batte against infidels is everyone's duty and that Paradise is waiting for those who get killed fighting for Allah. How those fighters of the desert, fearless of death, became the terror of the whole region, so much that heavily fortified cities such as Alexandria fell without any resistance. How Khaleed, nicknamed 'the sword Allah', devastated the fertile plains between the Tiger and Euphrates, Persia.
I am also educating myself on today's Islamists, who consider Islam to be not just as a religion, but a political system. Who believe in a Caliphate stretching from North to South, East to West, united under the sharia, the only rule, and who want to destroy all non-muslim, mailny Western influences and values, -militarily, economically, culturally-, which they consider as incompatible with Islam.
what? why are you to talking to me about islam? i don't care about islam, i think it is as immoral and violent as ANY OTHER religion (i repeat: ANY OTHER RELIGION). that wasn't my point but that tells me a lot about you and how open minded you are. it is a waste of time arguing with you
Hamas is a paid operative of Tehran, just like Hezbollah and Mahdi Army. Tehran has killed FAR more muslims than Iran.
Chomsky is a blind fool.
TemplarLeonem 1 week ago
How do you figure Hamas is willing to do all of this when they have voiced otherwise en mass in the streets? Nothing fascist? The USA has not denied the the right of a Palestinian homeland. He is completely making it up when he says Israelis in general will not accept international agreements what so ever. Why does he not bring up France, Germany, or many other countries that work with Israelis and Palestinians not to fuel flames like himself? This also should have been in full context.
jonny7748 1 month ago
Fuck Memri and their disgraceful editing and manipulation !
rasetoi 1 month ago
So basically neither side is sincere in their desire for peace? all the negotiations and all this relatively low level skirmish warfare is futile... wasn't that obvious to begin with? I fail to see how a pack of brutal Islamic supremacist thugs with violent ambitions agreeing with International consensus is more conducive to peace, I doubt Chomsky has anything good to say about any country in the world so why would a consensus between these corrupt nations impress anyone? Useless world view.
Chinomareno 1 month ago
@Chinomareno
f
ucking idiot
get outta here!
ahmed337799 4 weeks ago
You've never read anything by Chomsky, clearly. I see know hope for intelligent discussion here.
Also I am not an American. Your country owes everything to the Indians and ought to do everything in its power to uplift them.
The Palestinians want justice. It is up to Israelis to make concessions and to compensate, but they do the opposite.
cslad1 2 months ago
Didn't anybody get mind fucked by Chomsky? Holy Shit. I was nailed to my chair for the whole 10 minutes hahaha.
kshaq22 4 months ago
1st point, no they are a terrorist organisation because they purposefully target civilians and they use terror tactics. I'm pretty sure the rest isn't worth watching because Chomsky is such an ideologue that he probably doesn't even realise he is lying.
in3x 5 months ago
@in3x what's that saying that REALLLYY applies to you and your case right now... oh yeah,the TRUTH hurts
BigBallaShotCalla15 4 months ago
Noam Chomsky is a FUCKEN ASSHOLE!!!!
jumberman 5 months ago
This is bullshit, Mr. Chomsky. I'm Palestinian and I don't want Hamas or any other dirty Islamists to "liberate" the West Bank. Of course even if the jihadists want to, they can't (the IDF is the 4th most powerful army in the world). But suppose they can, they would only turn Palestine into another Islamic Republic, oppressing Christians, destroying womens' rights, abolishing freedom.
Israel is a lunatic state and the occupation must end, but I wish Israel can destroy all the arsenals of Hamas.
darkillity 6 months ago
The statement from 6:40 to 6:47. THIS is the reason Chomsky is a demi-god to leftists, a comrade-in-spirit to terrorists, and essentially, a traitor to western civilization. The most disgusting thing about Chomsky is his relativist views towards militant muslims.
oldstock1607 6 months ago
@oldstock1607 he doesn't have relativist views towars militant Muslims. He is simply emphazising that the accusers accuse the accused of what the accusers should be accused of. Let me know if you're brain is too slow to comprehend that, i'll give you the third grade version
BigBallaShotCalla15 4 months ago
@BigBallaShotCalla15 I sincerely doubt that an individual calling himself "BigBallaShotCalla" is capable of educating me on any subject. And Chomsky absolutely DOES have relativist views towards militant muslims. They're right here, in this video, in his own words. Bear in mind, this is the same individual, who only a few short years back had the gall to say "antisemitism is not really a problem anymore." Anti-semitism is not only alive and well, but is now part of the "progressive" platform
oldstock1607 4 months ago
first let me say this: presupposing the intellectual potential of an individual based on their youtube username is utterly bigoted, especially coming from a person whose username is no more professional. Keep your doubts running, I'll keep my brain functioning beyond the level of the average child.
Second: in this video he clearly states that he denounces virtually all policies of a militant islamic group. what you failed to understand was that he stated the US and Israel are far more guilty
BigBallaShotCalla15 4 months ago
@BigBallaShotCalla15 yeah? offended by condescension? then maybe you shouldn't approach individuals with the offer to give them "the third grade version," if [their] brain is too slow to comprehend" something. You began with the condescension. And anyone who is honest with themselves and is familiar with Chomsky's mind-numbingly simplistic approach to understanding this 1400 year old conflict is well aware that his "condemnation" of Hamas and Hizbollah is half-hearted and perfunctory. He is,
oldstock1607 4 months ago
@oldstock1607 without question, the leading western apologist for muslim extremism in that part of the world. He, along with that also intellectually dishonest Norman Finkelstein, have succeeded in convincing millions of leftists worldwide that supporting some of the nastiest terrorists in the world and denouncing the Israelis for their legitimate use of force in self-defense is somehow "progressive." There are actually people in the world (yourself included?) who truly believe that the palestin
oldstock1607 4 months ago
@oldstock1607 ians are just perfectly innocent angels who are just constantly harrassed and oppressed by the Jews. what a joke. The Palestinians are very much the authors of their current situation. I have never once heard Chomsky acknowledge that anti-judaism is a fundamental tenet of Islam, and why would he? He doesn't believe anti-semitism exists, and Muslims certainly aren't honest on this facet of their religion.
oldstock1607 4 months ago
@oldstock1607 I base my condescension on the ignorance of a statement, you base it on a YouTube name. I'm not sure it requires an in depth understandng of quantum physics to understand that these are vastly different. It only seems "half-hearted" because he's not giving you what you used to seeing on television. he's giving you what you refuse to read and research. if we are to treat Muslim terrorists with aggressiveness, then how are to treat the far more egregious US and Israeli terrorists?
BigBallaShotCalla15 4 months ago
@BigBallaShotCalla15 Well, there was nothing ignorant about my original statement. Indeed, it was spot-on. I imagine that you feel the way you do because you are making the same fatal error that Chomsky does: letting your leftist sensibilities and emotions, rather than logic, determine your political opinions. I see you are 21. I too was all full of righteous (and misplaced) indignation at that tender age. When you grow up, and live in the real world for a while, I assure you, your opinions will
oldstock1607 4 months ago
@oldstock1607 change dramatically. You are probably the product of public schools, which have, for the past forty years, been little more than left-wing indoctrination camps. You could probably recite me MLK's entire biography and yet if I asked you about, the Kansas-Nebraska act, I'd hear crickets. Maybe you're in college right now, Just lapping up that leftist pablum. Do you have a terror scarf that you wear to class? Do you boycott Israeli goods?
fucking nailed it, didn't I, "Shotcalla?
oldstock1607 4 months ago
@oldstock1607 Basing someone's intellect on their youtube username isn't ignorant? and you say you use knowledge?
it's not a political opinion when stating claims using facts, as Chomsky does. Chomsky is merely delineating the blatant hypocrisy of the US and Israel. He is saying, by the Us's and Israel's definition of "terrorist," then by thier definition, they themselves are terrorist governments. This is what history teaches us, not that ooblong box in your living room
BigBallaShotCalla15 4 months ago
@BigBallaShotCalla15 I don't watch TV, ever. So you can cease with the pretentiousness on that score. I read, and have read just about everything Chomsky has ever written. All Chomsky "delineates" is his own archetypical left-wing extremism. Every statement, every opinion he advances PROCEEDS from an indictment of the west, and the U.S. and Israel in general. His policy is to blame the west first, and act as a fawning sycophant and apologist to terrorists, pirates and criminals the world over.
oldstock1607 4 months ago
@BigBallaShotCalla15 Watch the video where he is pontificating on Somali pirates. I almost burst into laughter when he IMMEDIATELY shifted the blame from the pirates themselves to western nations. It's like a knee-jerk reaction to this man. How about holding the somalis themselves responsible for their situation? Is it remotely possible that their not having an effective government since 1992 is to blame? He certainly has no problem holding the American public responsibel for their leadership.
oldstock1607 4 months ago
@oldstock1607
chomsky is notorious for this. his dubious predictions - US invasion of afghanistan will create famine and millions of musilms will starve (false), pol pot genocide was imperialist propaganda (false, he murdered 30% of cambodia's population), israel is responsible for all wars in the middle east (false, 99% of all wars in ME fought independent of israel)
the list goes on. but people worship chomsky like a god. he is immune from attack.
ImNeilPatrickHarris 4 months ago
@ImNeilPatrickHarris Indeed. His formula, as Christopher Hitchens describes it: an "insertion of a deniable but particularly objectionable innuendo" prefaced with a "pitying tone of condescension" really seems to strike a chord with the self-loather inherent in most leftist-extremists. Hopefully history will remember this man as one who prostituted his values for the sake of relativism, or even better, a man who had no concrete moral values at all.
oldstock1607 4 months ago
@ImNeilPatrickHarris
"The figure of 1 million potential deaths was reported by the highly respected correspondent of the FEER, Nayan Chanda, attributed to a high US official."--Chomsky on Pol Pot's genocide. Not exactly denying it.
As for the Afghanistan invasion causing a famine, it was a real danger that thankfully did not materialize, as it had done with the Soviet invasion.
Utilizing "facts" should help improve your diatribes.
Also, Israel is stolen land. Period.
cslad1 2 months ago
@cslad1
chomsky extolled the virtues of pol pot, complained muslims were not being massacred in kosovo and it was a NATO conspiracy, ignores the Red Terror in Ethiopia, and manically obsesses with nations such as Israel while apologizing for brutal methods of communist states and traditional enemies of the US.
And don't give Israel beef about "stolen land." You're living in stolen land.
ImNeilPatrickHarris 2 months ago
Noam Chomsky go to HELL!!!!!!!!
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ehudnold9 6 months ago
what a great man
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Zendout1 7 months ago
Noam Chomsky once denied the killing fields caused by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. 'Nuff said.
bigverybadtom 8 months ago
@bigverybadtom that's not true. He stated they they were distorted and exaggerated in the press because these atrocities were committed by enemies of the US. (Cambodia), as opposed to equal or slightly worst crimes committed by our friends (ex Indonesia) that received little to no press attention.
MrJoeBlunt 7 months ago
@MrJoeBlunt It's true all right. First he denied them, and when confronted with the truth he changed his story, using "the USA is just as bad" excuse as he always does. I still stand by my statement.
bigverybadtom 7 months ago
@bigverybadtom "I still stand by my statement." of course you do.He never denied the crimes of Khmer rouge nor did he ever justify them.so you are sticking to your argument,one that you do not have any evidence for,none what so ever.
armidas200 6 months ago
what a moron
Zareste 8 months ago
Interesting. He seems to consider "policies of hamas are more conductive to peace than those of Isreal or USA". Well, personally I find it interesting he considers them as offers made in good faith, while he doesn't seem to consider them Taqiya and a stall tactic to leverage a better military situation. Furthermore, I haven't heard him say at any time that it is interesting that prior to 1967, when Jordan controlled the west bank, for the creation of Palestine. In other words, its not as simple.
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chinopisces 9 months ago
Palestinians inhabited their land for thousands of years before the Synagogue of Satan stole it away in 1948 just as the native American indians inhabited their land for 11,000 years before it was stolen away.
thereinliesgreatness 10 months ago 2
@thereinliesgreatness The Arabs in the land now called Palestine came there as conquerors and colonizers after the Muslim conquest of the area, indeed, many if not most of them arrived after the establishment of the Ottoman Empire.
Elivasfq 9 months ago
we should support Hamas, thats the only reason to reach peace.
antekification 1 year ago
Chomsky is brilliant! Too bad he doesn't work in the White House!
antiwar2 1 year ago
It's kind of nice to see an american who knows what's really going on outside of his country. Gives hope to the rest of the world, things could change if the media starts to be more objective on what they broadcast. And unfortunately there's also a big tendence of the whole West to deffend american policies on the middle east, that's quite a disappointment
martinigby 1 year ago 5
911 was the worst terrorist crime. Well what was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was a `war`, but over 100,000 were killed instantly.
Coolflames101 1 year ago
Chomsky is a genius God bless him Maybe if Americans watched less futball they will undersand what hes saying
prowireless 1 year ago
word. the truth spoken is strong and undeniable. Brown people across the world must stand together against the oppression of the white man.
Celinancc1701 1 year ago
is there any chance of a transcription of your subtitles for this video? I would be most appreciative
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
I would love a transcript of theis excellent presentation
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
"suppose that Al-Qaeda had succeeded in attacking the white house, killing the president, installing military dictatorship,...,which killed 50000-100000....". He doesn't see that it is exactly what happened after 2001 in Iraq and Afghanistan where thousands of people were killed and we still, until now, cannot find any proof of nuclear weapon in Iraq or catch Bin Laden?!!
US people should know that wars are financed by tax payers, but oil revenues goes to oil companies owners (president and co)
joneslukas 1 year ago
A bunch of homicidal maniacs have policies which are preferable to that of the US and Israel? If Israel retreats back to the pre 1967 borders it will simply become too small to defend itself against a combined military force which really has it's act together. This has not happened yet because many of the hostile forces do not really like or trust one another, but what if a powerful leader could unite them as an effective force?
HelgiWartooth777 1 year ago
@HelgiWartooth777 then Israel is fucked? won't that happen if they don't get out of there?
BECAUSE they occupy Palestine, there is so much hatred against them in the region. Hezbollah says they are willing to accept peace with Israel if the will of the palestinian people is met, and the will of the people there is a two state solution, so no, why would any of the "enemies" of Israel attack them if they end the occupation? They're not the imperialists here, Israel is.
grantorgeir 1 year ago
@grantorgeir Yes and no, on the one hand Israel is occupying what is generally perceived to be Palestinian territory, on the other hand the boundries set by Lord Mt Batton have never been fully recognized by many tribes in the area. TransJordan was the largest territory of Palestine during the British Occupation, the Brits then said 'Jews over here and others who don't want to live with them here.' Many left on their own and the result is Israel. After the Six Day War, Jerusalem was captured.
HelgiWartooth777 1 year ago
@HelgiWartooth777 cont. The problems facing Israel are actually worse in many ways than they might appear to a secular thinker on the surface. The mere presence of a "Jewish" stronghold is an affront to many fundamentalist thinkers in Islam, in short their agenda is one of total destruction. Moving Israel back to pre 1967 borders is merely stage one. Your initial acessment is in many ways is correct on the surface, certainly in the short run anyway, what no one is saying what's really happening
HelgiWartooth777 1 year ago
@HelgiWartooth777 Yes, there is descrimination in Israel towards Palestinians which are deemed "untrustworthy." There is also a larger presence in the IDF of Palestinians than most people know of, in fact many of them have won medals for valor. Ironic. There is also a presence of Israeli leftists who empathize with their struggle. In fact, there is inter marriage, I should know, I had a Palestinian Girlfriend from Birzat. An assimilation is taking place, and it's not to the liking of exteremists
HelgiWartooth777 1 year ago
@HelgiWartooth777 What comes out of this assimilation is just about anybody's guess. Should the Jews simply jump ship and go back to Germany, Poland and Russia? IS that practicle? Probably not. Will Israel look the same 50 years from now? Probably not. I'm guessing that secular thinkers are going to have to carry the day and will probably unite from both sides, some sort of moderate sanity has to overrule the loonies on both sides. Using religion as a pretext for war is a disaster.
HelgiWartooth777 1 year ago
@HelgiWartooth777 Interesting to hear, as we foreign to the problem don't see much besides MSM garbage(both sides). I personally wish for people like you and your former GF to live life in peace. I think war is the ultimate racket, and is abominable. Unfortunately, there are people that stand to profit on the human losses on both sides so I don't see continuous low scale warfare will go away any time soon.
52111centrumcz 9 months ago
The host was such a Lebanese asshole.
muimrm 1 year ago
we need more educated people like him,and less media cnn type.
ysyilmas 1 year ago 4
I feel sad for people like Chomsky, Edward Said etc, but must feel some regret and bitterness that the world chose to the be ignorant and nothing is changing....
lovelygreebo 1 year ago
Chomsky 4 Life! He's just awesome.
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westistguttotal 2 years ago
european countries are cowardly they need americans to protect them...........from who exactley do we need protecting from?
surfin4 2 years ago
Thats what I'm wondering. You lot are all together useless and with the USSR gone of no strategic value. Though I think you need protection from your recently arrived islamic immigrants that is a domestic issue.
UserUK201 2 years ago
@UserUK201,
"Though I think you need protection from your recently arrived islamic immigrants that is a domestic issue."
Why any more protection from recently arrived islamic immigrants than from Jewish or Christian or Hindu immigrants?
Firstly, Muslims are not just "recent" immigrants, two captains with Columbus were Muslim, a third of the the African slaves were Muslims, Muslims fought for America's independence, fought in the civil war.
Secondly, Israelis spy against America and get pardoned
optimistsRUS 1 year ago
Why do we need some companies who don't need to listen to us to control targets of drone attacks? Are those drones weapon really ours or is it merely our money building them for someone else? Why should NATO be always US leaded but we can't stop any of their acts through our public opinions.
beancube2008 2 years ago
Because almost all of NATO's military forces are from the US you moron. The European countries are cowardly and rely on the US to protect them.
UserUK201 2 years ago
Chomsky (who fancies himself a modern-day Elijah) criticizes King Ahab for his dictatorial practice of condemning Elijah as a hater of Israel by identifying himself "with the people, the country, and the culture." Yet, just a few minutes earlier, Chomsky did the very same thing when describing President Bush's criteria for defining a terrorist state. Just b/c Bush thinks that any state that harbors terrorists is a "terrorist state", that doesn't mean the American populace thinks this way.
FamilyGuyRocks89 2 years ago
No but bush and the congress control troop deployment, not the american people.
rolpho 2 years ago
This is true. However, my point still holds true that Chomsky hastily commits of the very sort of faulty analogy that he condemns just a few minutes earlier.
FamilyGuyRocks89 2 years ago
"unacceptable, but preferable"
He is a linguist? Of what language?
His claims are so contrary to fact it is astounding. Choamsky is an extremely misguided individual.
UserUK201 2 years ago
You really don't understand this statement? he finds them unacceptable, in isolation, but preferable to something he considers much worse. As in: the acts of the serial killer were unacceptable, but preferable in comparison to much worse crimes, like Hitler's. In this context, the word "preferable" does not signify an endorsement. the actions of all parties are bad, but some are better than others. in the begining of the interview, chomsky states he against virtually all of Hamas' policies.
schooner23 2 years ago 25
Your attempt to reconcile this is quite amusing. Once again, Chomsky is an extremely deluded individual.
UserUK201 2 years ago
useruk..u are just insults and no debate. schooner gave u the exact response .. i guess it was too good for u to debate back.. cause u had nothing to say
thewirrow 2 years ago
Why? He has nothing intelligent to say, and everytime I debunk his moronic claims he changes topic.
UserUK201 2 years ago
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Sorry I'm not on youtube every day anxious to debate whether or not the ignoramus noam chomsky is anything other than an attention whore, pol pot loving spin doctor.
UserUK201 2 years ago
was that an argument or opinion?
LSRochon 2 years ago
@LSRochon What?
UserUK201 2 years ago
@schooner23
yes, in other words - hamas, an islamic mafia gangster movement that burns down churches, extorts palestinian businesses, practices disgusting polygamy, and murders rivaling arab movements is preferable to....israel, a progressive rational nation ruled by law and not religion?
right right, israel=nazi germany/hitler. like we haven't heard that b.s analogy before.
chomsky is a rogue resident jew. he courts controversy. DONT CRITICIZE HIM or else you must be part of the "lobby"
ImNeilPatrickHarris 4 months ago
"unacceptable, but preferable TO THE POLICIES OF THE US AND ISRAEL"
remember to finish your quotes and not take words out of context bud
If you still don't understand his statement from a linguistic perspective, try reading a book, or practicing some grammar.
And why take issue with the linguistic aspect of his statement (the part taken out of context, anyways), and in the same breath say he is not being factual? Pick an argument.
By the way, it IS factual, your intellectual capabilities aside
aewester 2 years ago
Your just angry because this idiot, whose deluded and inane rhetoric you admire so very much, has once more demonstrated to the world what an ignorant buffoon he really is. Hamas has openly stated it will never accept a two state solution, and has already broken several peace accords. lol you and chomsky are both dim-witted clowns.
UserUK201 2 years ago
hm, who dont you respond to what i said to you? You keep simply saying im dumb, chomsky is inane, etc.
WEAK.
Hamas' leaders have been endorsing the two state solution for MANY YEARS. Oh, and Hamas has broken peace accords?!? Goodness no!! Gee, Israel and the US have NEVER done anything like that!!
The most recent cease-fire was broken by an Israeli raid!
Why are "WE" allowed to do whatever the FUCK we want, and "THEY" are seen as barbarians even when our record is FAR worse than theirs?!?
aewester 2 years ago
You didn't say anything of any intellectual significance that would warrent a response. Hamas' charter clearly states that there can be no two state solution:
"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors." And they demonstrated their adherence to this by perpetrated numerous suicide bombings and other terrorist attacks inorder to sabotage the Oslo Peace Accords.
UserUK201 2 years ago
Again, i know this is difficult for you to understand, but Chomsky said (correctly) that Hamas is a terrible organization, but that their policies are MORE conducive to peace the the US and Israel's.
Speak comparatively when you attempt to counter this claim. You can run around saying "hamas is bad! hamas is bad!" and you will not be disagreeing with Chomsky at all.
aewester 2 years ago
I'm glad you agree with me that Hamas does not endorse a two state solution, seeing as how you completely side stepped what I said.
UserUK201 2 years ago
Why? Is conversing about his failure as a linguistic and his moronic claims regarding Hamas to much for you to handle intellectually?
UserUK201 2 years ago
Failure as a linguist . . . ??? haha. Reading your posts shows the world you're not a linguist. And calling him a failed linguistic _____ something, shows that you know nothing about Linguists or modern day ACADEMIC" discussions on language creation, patterning, or functions.
You hate his Academia for his political views. Your fear of thought provokes condemnation. And your lackluster comprehension feeds your ego with a solid argument. But you sound silly. no worries, its just youtube.
admspooner 2 years ago 2
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Last time I checked there was an increasing consensus amongst linguists that this sexually perverse charlatan stole his theories from a professor who taught at the University of Pennsylvania during the 1930s. As for his political views, I find them less thought provoking then I do insulting not only to the western world, but to myself, as he expects me to believe the half-truths and fabrications he bases them on. Get his semen out of your eyes and face facts retard.
UserUK201 2 years ago
You're nothing but a troll on the internet, and yet you accuse Chomsky of being an attention whore? All you do is insult, you're a waste of brain power (what amount of it there is).
themange59 2 years ago 24
I don't just insult. I referred to his habit of theivery and I encourage you to research this yourself (i.e. google it).
UserUK201 2 years ago
chomsky is a terrorist
DK0526 2 years ago
if you really believe that, then you have absolutely no idea what terrorism is
hpslugga 2 years ago
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chomsky should be shot for treason
DK0526 2 years ago
is he a terrorist or a traitor? Which is it, buddy?
When has he EVER committed or supported an act of aggressive violence? When has he EVER taken a position that would undermine the safety of anyone?
Cite some examples next time you moron.
aewester 2 years ago 2
GGGGRRRRRRgggullllll!!!!
Whats that? I cant understand you when Im pissing in your mouth!
DK0526 2 years ago
"When has he EVER taken a position that would undermine the safety of anyone?"
He oppossed Vietnam's 1979 invasion of Cambodia that ousted the Khmer Rouge.
-After The Cataclysm, 1979, pg. xix
If he had had his way, the Pol Pot regime would have continued.
RadioFreeWisconsin 2 years ago
and i opposed the invasion of iraq. is that very different?
Why should chomsky ever support state aggression, which ALWAYS inherently becomes imperialistic and brutal?
The new boss is always the same unless the PEOPLE establish new ones. I'm sure chomsky would say something along those lines..
aewester 2 years ago
lol! What an ignorant idiot.
UserUK201 2 years ago
i guess i'll respond to your baseless, example-less, ad-hoc insult by asking you, What makes me an "ignorant idiot" based on anything on this page?
don't you know how to present arguments, debate, support your beliefs, etc.? WHO is the idiot?
Why don't you try explaining yourself next time, asshole.
aewester 2 years ago
this makes me want to barf
in hamas charter it is based on never accepting israel, no peace, no two state solution,
all JEWS DEAD
why doesn't chomksy go to a hamas movement and stand on his little pulpit and get tortured
bullbunnies 2 years ago
thats a fuckin lie faggot,
There lived jews along with Muslims in Palestine for thousands of years if I'm not wrong. The only reason Muslims now are more aggressive to jews is because Israel is being a violent bitch.
Doffz0r 2 years ago
You are wrong, jews in israel were still opressed and there where terrible pogroms against them throughout history
bullbunnies 2 years ago
I am joining my voice with Doffz0r caaling you a faggot becuase that's what you are...who cares what is Hamas constitution if we are speaking about Justice and moral and the right things to do...who started with crimes and drove populance from their lands on the tip of a gun...Hamas clearly said we can't swallow "a recognition of israel" now, its like asking them to sell their pride...but they say we can leave that decision to future generations..since when the victim has to accept conditions?
mzkaddah 2 years ago
hmm...it seems that you have a lot in common with Doffz0r your both angry biggots, and your both irrationaly, and suspicously homophobic. Why don't you fuck yourself and fuck each other.
Yassar Arafat's 'idol' the grand mufti of jerusalem was raving nazi who was planning to build concentration camps in israel to exterminate any jews who escaped there. If this weren't the case things would be different.
bullbunnies 2 years ago
if you think any body will pat attension to the whole bullshit logic u are selling..u r dreaming...babe...you don't offer the palestinians you land out of good will, it is the opposite, ur asking them in a very rude impolite racist way to let you live on a land that u have stolen from them, it is like that's it you are only allowed the bread crumbs you two legged beasts.well hon we are not we are gonna shove a stick up ur israeli ass until u get to some sense or u loose it all and go back to
mzkaddah 2 years ago
to the europian ghettos you came from..the whole world know know that u are nothing than some god damn russian payed by the US to work as their gurad gods in the middle east nothing mpre nothing less..when you country stops being the Mafia it is then we can start looking at u differently. otherwise u race me I will stick my dick in ur ass all way up until u can't breathe..all the land is my intrinsic right, and there is no back off from that right or concept.
mzkaddah 2 years ago
if you see urself as a better being than I am well it is all in ur head, I did put that shit in ur head..its probabely hilter who did that when he was roosting ur mama in the oven,,,when Just,honest and moral people like Naom speaks lean to keep u mouth shut.
mzkaddah 2 years ago
your mother is a sex slave
bullbunnies 2 years ago
Hitler branded you mama on her butt in Auchwitz. The tatoo reads "from Hitler with love"..I bet or not even a jew...you are an american = a fecal mass in the form of a human being.
mzkaddah 2 years ago
Canadian..fuck you and I was wondering why does it smell stinky today!!!...where in canada motherfcuker?
mzkaddah 2 years ago
you don't say that my mother was branded by hitler than ask me questions.
you are filthy jealous human being, and again, your mother is probably a sex slave...which is actually a very real possibility, not the weird and scary bullshit you posted about me
bullbunnies 2 years ago
Sorry that was off the edge, I do not believe you are a jew anyways...not to say that I would have told that to a zionist BECAUSE zionism and all it advocates is pure racism and evil...lies bending the facts to coverup the truth..that ethnic cleansing happened, and a huge compensation for vixtims is required...1)Right of Return 2) offical appology form the gov of israel after zionism is defeted iside israel tp the pals for several years of agony and humiliation, lies, tyranny and coverups.
mzkaddah 2 years ago
The palestinians have recieved more aid and attention, have rejected more than any 'displaced' people on the planet. 3000 sri lankens died and nobody heard about it. It's because the palestinian are banking on anti-semetism, and overwhelming arab numbers to destroy israel. The arab nations are still invested in nazism. The arab league is protecting Omar al-Bashir and chastising the ICC for infringing in the muslim world.
bullbunnies 2 years ago
These are dangerous nieghbours. The second israel's defenses fall there would be a massive bombardment of terrorist attacks. European and arab media hold israel to such a high standard, treat it with contempt and suspicion, and don't miss an oppurtunity to appeal to hatred rather than reason and fairness. Certianly more palestians have been killed by hamas fasicm than israel self-defense.
bullbunnies 2 years ago
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Right on. What amazes me is that so many on the political Left hate Israel and apologize for Hamas, when Hamas would cut their throat if they actually lived under a Hamas led government.
bke274 2 years ago
The idea of massive bombardment of Israel is supposed to sound dangerous and scary, but of course no one expresses the same distress over massive bombardment of Palestine, which is not only common and taken for granted, but kills many more civilians than Palestinian attakcs on Israeli targets.
ArtVandalay666 2 years ago
The palestiani leadership has been offered there own state several times, (with compensation for displaced arabs from 48, and partial RETURN) and they have refused it, choosing a long and brutal war instead. I don't want anyone to suffer, israeli's or palestinians, and I do not agree with israel's policies, but that is the reality of modern warfare. I"m not sure where you live, but you have no idea the cost of your comfort on the developing world. If you want to work towards ending suffering
bullbunnies 2 years ago
Palestinian leadership has been offered a viable state, with massive aid, compensation for displaced arabs, and partial return of refugees. I don't want anyone to suffer, palestinian or israeli, and in fact I don't agree with the occupation. This is how modern warfare is fought, would you risk your life, or your child's life, to protect the life of someone who prays for your death. The greatest threat to the welfare of palestinians is there own leadership, not israel.
bullbunnies 2 years ago
I'm not sure where you live, but you have no idea of the kind of unnecesary suffering other people live through everday. If you want to make the world a better place, why don't you work towards ending commodity trading on agricultural products? This is something you can actually effect right now.
bullbunnies 2 years ago
How do my opinioins on Israeli terrorism suggest that I am out of touch with people's suffering? On the contrary, I am much more moved by the suffering of Palestinians who are starving, economically strangled, politically stifled, have their movement illegally controlled and are the daily victims of a sustained terrorist war carried out by the most well financed military in the history of the world then I am the suffering of Israelis who can't enjoy their espresso bars and high-end boutiques
ArtVandalay666 2 years ago
Clearly you have never been to israel
there are massive problems with poverty and unemployment due to influxes of uneducated immigrants, and hasids who have 8 kids and teaches nothing practical to any of them.
bullbunnies 2 years ago
But does it even being to approach the degree of poverty in the occupied terrirtories?
ArtVandalay666 2 years ago
Palestinians HAVE NOT been offered a legitimate state. Israel or any country from the West would NEVER accept what Palestinians have been offered.
There is a lot of trashy propaganda that says Palestinians have repeatedly been offered their own state. Period. But they have ACTUALLY been offered a cantonized area, with no sovereignity, and with much of the most valuable land lopped off and kept by Israel.
Please be careful with your information. Make sure you have the real record.
aewester 2 years ago
if the palestinian negoetiators didn't like what was being offered they should have made a counter proposal
bullbunnies 2 years ago
More revisionist histoy. If you read an *actual* account of the political history of the conflict (i.e. one that Alan Derschowitz would not consider legitimate, one that actually has some semblance of truth to it, etc.) you would see that the Palestinian leadership has supported a two-state settlement for over 3 decades, but the settlement has been blocked by the rejectionism of the US and Israel which refuses to address the human rights of Palestinians.
ArtVandalay666 2 years ago
Fine
I'll call your bluff. Show me your historical sources. Read bill clinton's reaction to the breakdown of camp david, and the PLO"s response to the clinton parameters. That's enough for me. Lets not forget the rejection of resolution 242.
Israel isn't perfect either, the settlements are the biggest blcok to peace, but you have to prove to me that palestinians have working towrads peace.
bullbunnies 2 years ago
The ample documentary record contradicts your, Dershowitz's, and Clinton's postulation.
This record recounts that peaceful settlement could have been attained at the Taba Summit, and would have, if not for Israel pulling out under the false pretext of elections. The most prominent reports are those by Ron Pundak (from the Shimon Peres Peace Center), David Matz, and Miguel Moratinos (the EU appointee for the Summit).
Cont'd...
mdoob11 2 years ago
I'm legitimately curious to read the statements from these people. Where can I find them?
bullbunnies 2 years ago
Statements by whom? Those involved in the taba summit?
mdoob11 2 years ago
from ron pundak, david matz, miguel mortinos
what happened at camp david 2 & taba is really the basis for my support of israel in it`s voilence as self defense. It`s simple, if peace isn`t going to be possible than you have to do what you can to protect your own population
bullbunnies 2 years ago
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These sources confirm that it was Israel's rejectionism, not Arafat's, that obstructed peaceful settlement.
Notions au contraire are simply fanciful sophistries designed to hide the truth. Clinton's word is as meaningless as Bush reassuring us that we're in Iraq for democracy, or Reagan's absurd claim that Nicaragua was an existential threat.
If interested in learning rather than exemplifying myopic, ideological dogmatisms, PM me and I'll link the references.
mdoob11 2 years ago
Chomsky is says that Hamas is willing to accept the International Consensus as a long term truce, but he omits to mention that it continues to insist on the right of return of 3 million descendants of refugees to Israel, a demand which means in practice, the replacement of Israel as a Jewish state by bi-national state, bordering a Palestinian State. This is unethical, considering the fact that for 60 years, everything was done by arab countries to perpetuate and exacerbate the refugee crisis.
warmperson2007 2 years ago
That only makes sense if you accept an extremely racist view.
ctvwr 2 years ago
How many languages does Noam Chomsky know?
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
I think he only knows English and Hebrew. But that isn't what linguistics is about, its a study about the structure. development, and usage of language and how it shaps human thought and activity.
ctvwr 2 years ago
I found out he does no Arabic, because he mentioned it in one of his writings.
I know that he knows Arabic, Hebrew, English and French for sure. He probably knows more than that too.
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
Why does he use translation for debates like the Michel Foucalt one? Why did he tell Ali G that he wished he was bilingual?
ctvwr 2 years ago
I didn't remember him using a translation for the Foucalt debate.
In the Ali G interview he says 'I'd love it if I were bilingual.' not that he wished he was, but it sounds like that though.
I know for a fact he knows those languages.
Plus, it's unlikely that a major intellectual, and almost impossible that a linguist, would know only one language
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
Thanks for getting back. Although I realise you didn't answer any of my points. It's ok, don't worry. I won't ask you to tell me how Chomsky is wrong as you will be forever trying to come up with something.
Instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks. Listen to the man and many like him (although very few in the same league) expand your mind and learn.
alwayswilling1232000 2 years ago
chomsky is a complete idiot. He is a self hating moron ! What a stupid idiot.
discoverngc 2 years ago
You do realise how utterly stupid your statement is dont you? Any sentence with Chomsky and idiot in it is an oxymoron.
Of course I would be happy to hear from you with any evidence that he is a idiot, moron or stupid.
alwayswilling1232000 2 years ago
you do not realize how stupid you are. That's the problem. You self hating westerner, brainwashed by this idiot.
discoverngc 2 years ago
Sorry I have to agree with alwayswilling123. Thirty years ago, when I was a high-school student, I believed this man was the most intelligent man on the planet. I couldn't how come no-one around realized it. Today, I look at him as the incarnation of Stupidity. It happens often, says Kant, to find very instructed people revealing, in the way they make use their science, that uncurable vice of Stupidity. This is very true for Noam Chomsky.
warmperson2007 2 years ago
oxymoron? how old are you exactly?
You do realise....that your a pretensious ignoramous blah blah blah.
bullbunnies 2 years ago
i love how the arabs embrace jews when they support their phony causes. When they dont, they are " apes and pigs"
such hypocrites
62036203aaa 3 years ago
genius
Terminator6324 3 years ago
Chomsky on "anti-Americanism" and "anti-Israel":
"King Ahab...condemned the prophet Elijah for being a "hater of Israel." The reason Elijah was a hater of Israel is because he was criticizing the acts of the evil King. And the King, like totalitarians throughout history identified the state, himself, with the people, the country, the culture. So if you criticize state policy you are a hater of Israel, a hater of America, or a hater of Russia. So yes, I'm delighted to be in that company."
waterview3 3 years ago 4
Let's not forget what Israel's ideology is: authocratic and totalitarian, totally opposed to Western values of free speech and religious liberty, totally ignoring women's rights or children's rights, and dedicated to the annihilation of it's neighbors...
Oops! Did I say Israel? I meant Hamas' ideology.
warmperson2007 3 years ago 4
"dedicated to the annihilation of it's neighbors"? you should really educate yourself
mazounaa 2 years ago
I am educating myself on the History of Islam, only to discover that 1300 years ago its power has swept off the east of the Roman Empire, treathened to submerge Europe and was stopped at the gates of Vienna only 200 years ago. That Mohammed was no founder of a pacific religion like Jesus, but the leader of his community who knew exactly what he wanted and had a precise idea of the ways to get it. The merchant became a preacher, then a politician, and ended up a dictator and a brilliant warlord.
warmperson2007 2 years ago
Now I am educating myself on how Mohammed, the military chief, convinced his men that the batte against infidels is everyone's duty and that Paradise is waiting for those who get killed fighting for Allah. How those fighters of the desert, fearless of death, became the terror of the whole region, so much that heavily fortified cities such as Alexandria fell without any resistance. How Khaleed, nicknamed 'the sword Allah', devastated the fertile plains between the Tiger and Euphrates, Persia.
warmperson2007 2 years ago
I am also educating myself on today's Islamists, who consider Islam to be not just as a religion, but a political system. Who believe in a Caliphate stretching from North to South, East to West, united under the sharia, the only rule, and who want to destroy all non-muslim, mailny Western influences and values, -militarily, economically, culturally-, which they consider as incompatible with Islam.
warmperson2007 2 years ago
what? why are you to talking to me about islam? i don't care about islam, i think it is as immoral and violent as ANY OTHER religion (i repeat: ANY OTHER RELIGION). that wasn't my point but that tells me a lot about you and how open minded you are. it is a waste of time arguing with you
mazounaa 2 years ago
and whats wrong with that every one wants an empire. and dont act like westerners dont want muslim influences. we dont want yours.
arsenalforever31 2 years ago
you are living in a fantasy, and have no idea what your taking about.
Where did ahmedinijad get his engineering degree? The west
bullbunnies 2 years ago
Could you please correct the spelling of "Isreal" in the title?
harpoonflyby 3 years ago 4
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Old idiot
wasek2001 3 years ago
Why do you say that?
Pommit 3 years ago
America's most heroic critic.
gorgeoushammer 3 years ago 7
AGH!@
he is not a hero he is a fraud and a tax evader. He hates totalitaronism so much, yet he meets with hezbollah leaders.
bullbunnies 2 years ago
7`52 -`the united states harbors terrorists,violent terrorists` .how sadly true.respect for prof.Chomsky
jimanHK 3 years ago 2
Think they'll play this on O'reilly's or Hannity's show hahahaha I wish.
stopandthink22 3 years ago