This old girl wouldn't know a "bullet-ho" from her "butt-ho". I am quite certain that the Secret Service just let her amble on over, lean against the car, and exclaim, "look . . . I see a bullet-ho". Yeah - Right . . . This is nothing more than some old dyke trying to hitch up to her 15 minutes of fame. If she is such a crack shot crack pot, maybe she did it. The Conspiracy Theories have certainly included everyone else.
@BlueWolfe38 You're not very convincing. Seriously, you're making yourself look ridiculous by clinging to the pathetic fabrication of the Warren Commission.
@draoi99 NO photographic evidence to support evidence of a bullet penetration through the windshield. The crater effect would have been more than obvious in the Altgens photograph and it is not. As to any speculation that this photograph could have been altered, it was not confiscated nor developed by any government agency. If you are prepared to incriminate Altgens or the AP Wire Service into your conspiracy theory, then be my guest. It only makes the theory more preposterous.
I'm less interested in the crazy theories than in the obvious mental illness of most of the people who espouse them. they seem like to capital letters
@constealnav Hoover was the most important member of the coup that Killed JFK. Without Hoover, LBJ would have been exposed almost immediately.
Hoover's FBI collected all the Dallas evidence and took it to Washington. Once he had all that, he was in control. LBJ hand picked the members of the Warren Commission and one of them, the WHITE RAT, was instrumental in fooling that pack of fools.
The windshield bullet is just one of MANY lies.
LBJ made Hoover FBI Director for life as his reward.
@SCGATOR2001 The Warren Commision , was a joke.. They left out so many eyewitness reports.. I have seen so many great video's that are hard to find now, Youtube delete a file.. I'm sorry for the how stupid statement.. We know this was so wrong from the beginning.. The Truth would be nice..
The JFK conspiracy genre is renowned for its lack of diversity. Zero blacks, and very, very few women. To have a female, professional eyewitness to a bullet hole in the windshield is tremendously credible evidence of a conspiracy.
We known the shooting took place at 12:30. We know Oswald was in the TSBD at that time on second floor cafeteria. So why is he pulled from a movie theatre at 1:10 pm. Was there a reason he leaves work and goes to a movie by himself. It just looks a bit out of place.
If proof of a second gunman had been shown to be so obvious it could not be covered up, what would that prove. Oswald was dead , so there was a second gunman who was not caught. Again, why were the FBI / LBJ so intent on burying that.
I guess the answer is obvious, but these events like OK city / JFK always need to push the lone nut theory. TIA
now you see why alot of evidence was locked up- everything has a context -one piece here -one piece of evidence there -that's all it takes to break a case..this is powerful eyewitness testimony- back in the day- she did not know the significance of a bullet hole through the windshield-back in the day she coudl've ended up in a tragic accident. the car was key evidnece just like the clothes. and body of kennedy-in each case this key evidence was compromised. oh well, just another co-incidence
Jgarfbihoover, You dummy LBJ began ducking down on Houston Street. LBJ and Hoover covered it all up. Oswald was part of a plan to thwart the assassination. Plot coordinated by David Atlee Phillips, General Lansdale, E. Howard Hunt, Bill Harvey (exprets in coup-d'etats). Or do you think Lee outsmarted the entire intelligence of the USA? Wake the hell up. The right wing was not going to wait until 1984 to get the White House back. Coincidence Oswald got job in TSBD in October?
Or a bigger "Coincidence" that Ozzie got the job from a conversation over a morning coffee clutch between Ruth Payne & Neighbors who suggested to Marina that Oz apply at the TSBD because of a possible part time opening during the upcoming busy season (he did) You're just not only unfamiliar w/this case u border on RETARDATION & MONGOLOIDISM ! Better stick w/the 'Hobo Hitman' (mystery tramps) that fits u hillbilly NUTCASE'S better ! DUNCE !
@Humes53 "Or do you think Lee outsmarted the entire intelligence of the USA?"
How about these people DUNCE !? Booth, Guiteau, Czolgosz, Lawrence, Schrank, Zangara, Collazo and Torresola, Pavlick (1st JFK Assassination Attempt) Byck, Fromme, Moore, Hinckley, Hussein, Corder, Duran, Yousef, Pickett, Massoud, Atta, Arutyunian? U.S. Attorn.'s Manual, "Of the ppl who come to the SS's attention as creating a possible danger to the president approx. 75% are mentally ill."
@10Faenor "The CIA & mafia had pics w/young men & boys"
Authoratative JEH Biographer Richard Gid Powers cites John Weitz wartime SS officer who according to Anthony Summers was at a dinner party (1950s) when host showed him a picture & identified me having sex with another man (Is ridiculous) Weitz did not himself recognize me & he refused to identify the party host. Nor did Summers ever see the photo. Another
"witness" JFK fantasist, & "controversial" figure that lacks veracity".
And the identities of the leaders of the coup to kill JFK? Probably Nixon, LBJ and George H.W. Bush. That's why the U.S. government doesn't want to tell the citizens.
Why kind of democracy would the people think we have here if they knew that these three crooks were in on getting rid of JFK? These bums would have never ever seen the Oval Office without the killing of John and Bobby Kennedy!
Just about everyone is looking for that video of Hoover in female clothing. He is wearing a hair bun and what looks like a booby bra under his shirt.
that is conclusive proof that this perv was owned. Hoover controlled the investigations. Hoover supplied the Warren Commission criminals the phony data. The WC criminals were lead by Hoover.
Hoover claimed the mafia never existed. Hoover was just as much a criminal in the cover up as was the controlled media, owned by the CIA gangsters.
@10Faenor You don't need any more proof to be sure Hoover was in on the coup. Forged autopsy photos, forged Z film, altered witness' testimony etc. Hoover was key to the success of the plot. Nitwits like Bugliosi still can't comprehend the magnitude of the lies.
The other key player was LBJ, without LBJ, Hoover would have been exposed, it took both LBJ and J Edgar Hoover to pull this off. Since the US Gov't knows this is true they will tell any lie to hide the ties to these scum.
@SCGATOR2001 Read the book, "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Lamar Waldron and you'll realize the utter genius in the planning and execution of this crime. Those in the gov't. who covered it up did not commit the crime itself but did so for other reasons. Hoover had nothing to do with it but covered it up because he had information that could have prevented it. Robert F. Kennedy directed the autopsy and covered up the truth for well founded reasons of national security. READ THE BOOK!!
@10Faenor I agree 10Faenor & how are you! I've just got on the internet & I am amazed. I thought I new a lot about the Kennedy assassination, but my God, there's so much research here. I feel like a kid in a candy store. Anyway. I agree with you, Hoover was a nasty piece of work, an evil spider of a man, capable of anything --and he hated the Kennedy's. He's certainly a prime suspect. You know most people don't really know what a crazed bastard Hoover was, how he terrorized citizens.
Like I would of loved to see RFK, head of the Justice Dept & my beloved FBI on 11/22/63, with a myrtred brother eh ? Yer so stewpid it make me ears hurt just listening to ya !
"I thought I new a lot about the Kennedy assassination"
Probably enough to qualify as a 'Hatriot' , any momo with no evidence that tinks it's 'Patriotic' to 'Hate' ones own government irrationally !
Cranky, whiny, always in an extra-shitty mood that the wrong side won the Cold War, that LHO is the lone assassin and that it's taught in all schools, in US history books through-out the USA. Other than that he's a worthless piece of shit thats been damp sponged once to often by drinking too deeply from the CONspiracy well, what else ?
@mightymissk Mel Ayton has challenged Anthony Summers's "evidence" of Hoover's homosexuality lacks veracity according to two of Hoover's most acclaimed and authoritative biographers. Richard Gid Powers and Athan Theoharis both believe Summers's sources are not credible. Athan Theoharis said that the popularization of Hoover's homosexuality was the result of "shoddy journalism." Powers also questioned the reliability of many of Summers's witnesses quoted in the book.
@mightymissk Powers said that JEH was such a hated figure that many sheeple were prepared to believe the worst about him & to "badmouth" him. Powers cites John Weitz, wartime SS officer according to Summers was at a dinner party in the 1950s when the host showed him a picture & identified JEH having sex w/another man. Weitz did not himself recognize JEH & he refused to identify the party host. Nor did Summers ever see the photograph.
@10Faenor have they found that video of J. Edgar in drag? They won't, because none exists. You have shown the world you know nothing about the JFK case.
He is sitting with his crime friends and certainly wearing a female hair bun and possible booby bra under his shirt, at 2:40 - 2:50. The CIA & mafia had pics of this perv with young men & boys. He was also involved in felony insider stock manipulation. The CIA & mafia owned this piece of shit.
This felon fag supplied the phony docs to the WC criminals to help them cover up the assassination conspiracy.
@10Faenor "He (JEH) was also involved in felony insider stock manipulation"
Nazi Tactic's by Communist 10Faenor ! Accuse the innocent to exonerate the guilty !
Joe Sr. engaged in all sorts of insider trading that wasn't illegal at the time, and then when he became SEC Commissioner, he outlawed all of the practices that made him millions !
Every $Dollar$ was stolen off the backs of working ppl so the Kennedy's could engage in 'Rum-Running' and 'Communistic Red Romances' with 'Mob 'Molls' !
@10Faenor Read the book, "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Lamar Waldron and you'll realize the utter genius in the planning and execution of this crime. Those who covered it up (all part of the US government) did not commit the crime itself. They covered it up for other reasons. Robert F. Kennedy directed the autopsy and covered up the truth for well founded reasons of national security. READ THE BOOK!!
@10Faenor Is that how you have a discussion? By calling someone you disagree with an idiot? Do you want to continue our discussion like that? If you do, I can do it much better than you. What's it gonna be? It's your call!
@changing3 Bwahahaha. Can you really imagine a non-medical bureaucrat brother conducting an autopsy in a military hospital? The autopsy was conducted by the conspirators military doctor - fool. That nonsense by the CIA stooges was already discredited. It was CIA total bullshit called AMWORLD.
There is a small list. The CIA/FBI or... could have technically done it but how in the world would they have controlled the investigations? This has always been a lie that should have fallen apart.
The only person who had the power and was actively trying to get ONE investigation was the most obvious suspect, LBJ. VP Lyndon Johnson had a shady history of corruption all the way up through murder. His co-conspirator was J Edgar.
@sdhscrosscountry "butt how in the world would they have controlled the investigations?"
Silly Question ! The Warren Commission Members were not investigators, they relied on the FBI investigation by 1000's of FBI agents, newspaper men, video's, pathologists, 26,000 interviews !
Proves if you ask the wrong Q you get the wrong A you wanted..
@JgarfbiHoover Of course that couples up with FBI confiscated all the evidence from Dallas, LBJ worked overtime to get ONE investigation that was under the control of the FBI (Imagine if you are one of the conspirators and the State of Texas, Congress, FBI etc are going to have INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS!).
It was nicely controlled with one investigation: Hoover controlled the evidence, Johnson controlled the intelligence agencies and impossible things were made possible. by LBJ and Hoover
@SCGATOR2001 "FBI confiscated the evidence from TX"
WRONG! The DPD retained photo proof (See Book '1st Day Evidence') of LHO's fingerprints & guilt on rifle !
"LBJ worked 4 1 investigation under FBI control"
WRONG ! FBI IS THE ONLY FED. INVESTIGATORS THAT WOULD INVESTIGATE THE MURDER OF A FED. OFFICIAL ! IF U'RE SUGGESTING A STATE INVESTIGATE THE CASE FOR THE FED'S U GOT IT BACKASSWARDS ! FED>STATE>COUNTY>CITY IN THAT PECKING ORDER ! BTW WTF R U DOING MAKING VIDEO'S IF U DON'T KNOW THIS ?
@SCGATOR2001 You're mistaken. Even a President doesn't have that power. Those who everyone thinks covered it up, did so. They did so because each had a lot to lose if it was solved. NONE were guilty of the crime. There was more than one motive to derail the investigationS. THAT is how it was possible and THAT is why a huge conspiricy wasn't necessary. It boils down to a CIA which did, and still does operate above the law. A CIA which illegaly recruited the mafia to assassinate Castro.
@sdhscrosscountry Once you see that there is proof where this gunman is located then you can put it all together. There is no need to guess any more.
WHY is this still a mystery? It's because the US Government will tell any lie to hide the identities of the leaders of the coup that killed Kennedy. This has never been a mystery, it's always been a lie.
SCGATOR2001: this is the most interesting bullet to me. Have you traced it back to source yet? The images of that hole show it was slightly to the driver's side of the central rear-view mirror and at that level, which indicates a shot from the left front with a slightly downward trajectory. Where does that place the third gunman? Inside a stationary lorry on Commerce? Only an expert marksman could get past driver and Connallys to hit Kennedy in the neck, with sun reflecting on windshield.
@pimperneldog The secret to solving the Kennedy assassination is to IGNORE EVERYTHING the US Government has ever touched. The Windshield picture the US Government supplied shows a crack when this witness says it is a clean bullet hole through the windshield with no cracks & in her opinion fired from the front.
What is damning to the US Government is that she is NOT alone, others say they saw the same thing.
The real story: WHY is the US Gov't lying? Easily answered now by witnesses
* AS IF WITNESSES WOULDN'T LIE THEIR ASSES OFF FOR A QUICK BUCK ?
* SEEMS SAGGY IS STILL PLAYING TMWKK BANNED AT YT FOR COPYRIGHT VIOLATIONS ? WE'D BETTER TELL YT ADMIN. ABOUT THIS. CAN'T CONTINUE WITH SEDTIOUS CONSPIRACY NOW CAN WE SAGGY?
SCGATOR2001: this is the most interesting bullet to me. Have you traced it back to source yet? The images of that hole show it was slightly to the driver's side of the central rear-view mirror and at that level, which indicates a shot from the left front with a slightly downward trajectory. Where does that place the third gunman? Inside a stationary lorry on Commerce? Only an expert marksman could get past driver and Connallys to hit Kennedy in the neck, with sun reflecting on windshield.
Guys just google and watch the video "JFK-Case for conspiracy I" it starts getting down to buisness at about 20 minutes into it. It will show multiple shooters, Gov. fabrication of evidence, and proves many things.
The extreme ripping of the scalp was there before. The last time i saw it was 1986 on the Geraldo show. I haven't seen it since. Also haven't seen the big chunk of scalp that was thrown rearward during the headshot. Probably cause it looked so fake.
Hey DUMBASS didn't you know there were many .222 shells found. That info. on files is Bullshit. You need to do more reading, Any good scientist will tell you dumbass, not to limit your research to one group's data. You look at all opinions and then draw your conclusions. That's simple standard scientific practice. But I guess that's just beyond your comprehension.
Yes you are the DUMBASS for believing the perpetrators. You haven't named 1 book. or website. I would trust an honest conspiracy researcher who doesn't have a vested interest over any Gov. source. In fact, they are putting their lives at risk.
Google it Gov. asslicker. Dozens of articles are available. Witnesses all agree the car came almost ot a stop. Most Z. films don't show that. Mooreman said she stepped off the curb, Z. doesn't show it. Z. film shows Mrs. Connally and Greer turn their heads faster than humanly possible. Connally said he was NOT hit by the same bullet as Jfk. Greer and Kellerman said many bullets were entering the car. Greer said one came through the windshield. Google all this.
You're wrong, cops right next to the limo saw the hole. One cop said you could put a pencil through it. Only FBI and Secret Service who were in on it said there was no hole. The HSCA windshield was fabricated. Look at jfkLancer forum "Hole in the Windshield". Scroll to bottom. Also look at Doug Weldon's videos.
Hey Retard, the other 2 film show things from the left side and far away with people in the way. You can't see any detail of the headshot which is on the right side.
I said over and over IDIOT that if Z. did show it that soon then it was original. Are WE CLEAR. After that the Gov. had all the originals and switched them, they had 6 yrs. to work on it.
And what have you given? Zip natha Squat Bullshit. No articles, no videos, just Gov. propaganda. Google any Zapruder hoax article. They show solid incontrovertable proof that the Z. film has been totaly remade with all kinds of errors. If you saw the prestine version of the z. film from the Geraldo show from 1986 you would be shocked.
Bull, Files told the story pretty accurately. You even admitted the W. commisson was fiction. The huge snap of JFK's head to the left and back proves it came from the Files position.
There would be no reason for conspiracy experts to change the film . The only ones who had something to gain would be the Gov. The warren c. LBJ, etc. They wanted to make it look like a rear shot instead of J. Files temple shot. I remember one version of the head shot that showed a large chunk of scalp that was thrown backward . Haven't seen that one in years.
What a load of horseshit!! The Nix and muchmore films are too far away and on the wrong side to show key datails of the headshot which were on the right side. Z. was paid off 150 grand for the rights and then his original copy. Yes he showed the original but after that the Gov. switched all except howard Hunt's with the altered version. Why else would Life Mag. which was Cia controled buy it for 150 grand then sell it back for a dollar.
I suppose all the people running to the grassy knoll after a shooter means nothing? The warren Commission did it's best to ignore witnesses and then threaten and harrass them to make them believe shots only came from the TSBD.
you said you now admit changes were made on the Z. film. What changes are you admitting to? Did you look at the article about all the changes on the Z. film?
The original has never been seen on youtube. It was altered after the gov. got it's hands on it. I don't know how much was done cause I've never seen it. They have been altering it since after 1986. Like I said the only noticable stuff was the headshot. The rest is shown by experts with computers etc.
I'm telling you I've seen various versions of the head shot. One version showed a big chunk of scalp or whatever it was, flying to the rear. The headshot keeps changing. The present version doesn't show much headsnap. I guess back then they didn't think people would remember.
Give a list of ten books you read. You've never even seen the z.film before pcs and the internet came out. Am I right? The Z. film from what I've read was altered to make it look like the shot came from the rear, and they didn't want the film to show the car coming to a stop. Some believe the sign was enlarged to block some things.
What I saw on early the 1975-1986 Z. film, I haven't seen on any film since. you would know what I mean if you had seen it. But after reading many articles , I believe all the films I see on youtube are totaly revamped. I sent you the article.
send me the films that show what your takling about. What I saw on the early Z. versions I've not seen on any other film or on modern Z. films since 1986.
What the hell are you talking about? It wasn't shown to the general public till 1975. Didn't you know that Mr. expert who's read 100 books that he can't name. A court room is hardly the general public. How would dealey Plaza people see it?
@sargoth37 so you're fucked up position is the z was first shown in 75 and then altered in 86? omg just totally absurd. omg insane. let me guess - fetger told you that? figures there is no film that was released by the govt or z that ever showed what you say. so why did they supposedly do these alterations? what was ther reason. WHERE R THE NAMES OF THE DEALY PLAZA WITNESSES WHO SAID Z WAS NOT ACCURATE FUCKER??
@sargoth37 you would not need or expect to see the split from the left side as the split was on the right dumbass. the z shows the head splitting - i.e. the front being blown out.
That's what I've been saying you can't see minute details on the right side of his head with those other films which are too far away and have people in the way. The present Z. film shows some of the splitting but nowhere near the amount as the earlier pre 1986 versions. Just as some versions show the car slowing much more like the Geraldo one . Others show no slowing at all.
I say again what year did you first see the Z. film? I'm saying if it's true that Z. showed it immediatly before giving copies to the FBI and Secret Service, then it was most likely the original. After giving copies to them they had it altered. After Life got his copy according to that article, the only one left that was original was Hunts. There is some speculation here, so I'm saying it's 100% proof. The Gov. still probably have the originals. All the others in circulation are altered.
JESUS CHRIST!!! You have got to be one of the stupidest people I've ever come across. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I GOT TO SAY IT. I'M NOT SAYING, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SEEN FROM THE RIGHT TO MATCH. THE ONLY THING I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE RIPPING OF HIS SCALP WHICH CAN'T BE SEEN FROM THE OTHER FILMS. ARE WE CLEAR?
Who's taliking about Jackie on the trunk? I've told you time after time, I am only talking about things that can't be seen from the other side. The ripping of his scalp, etc.
I should have known your pea brains couldn't grasp some concepts. I remember it cause it was bizarre how the scalp spit in two. I also have a tabloid on JFK from 1978 which hi-lighted one of those frames. I'm looking at it now. I was always a jfk assass. addict. What yr. was the first time you saw the Z. film?
Since when is the CIA not part of the Gov. Covering up a murder makes you complicit. Allen Dullis who was head of the Cia was fired by JFK for lying to him. Then he gets put on the Warren Commission. Talk about corruption.
The things I'm talking about like the ripping of his scalp can only be seen from the right side. It may have been on 5-10 frames, That might be less than a second of time, I don't know. I doubt that it would show up on the other films, but they had the other films and could easily modify those as well.
It's already been explained. Z. probably did show the original if as you say it was shown that early. The Gov. altered it as soon as they could. They switched versions when he sold his to Life. The only original version left was the one he probablly gave to Howard Hunt. The alterations were not hugely noticable. Read the last half of "JFKcountercoup the Zapruder Film Mystery"
JfkLancer forum "Hole in the windshield" proves there were 2 different windshields. There is a closeup comparison of both. They are different, so your single windshield in the archives is debunked and proven to be a lie. Every one take a look.
And when did you do a pole? Apparently many did notice the differences. Why do you think there is so many saying it's altered? Including you. You better go back and remove all the posts of you ranting about how it's never been altered.
No dumbass. That article i sent you explains all about the Z. film. Z had 3-4 made. He gave 1 to FBI, 1 to the Secret Service, possibly 1 to Howard Hunt, and then he sold the rights to his, to Life mag. The Gov. wanted all the originals. So they got him to sell his copy for 100 grand in hush money.
continued... They had all the originals except maybe Hunt's. They altered it. Z. may have shown the original to reporters. but after that they replaced all originals with altered ones. Life then sold the altered one back to him for a $1.00 so the story goes. More extensive alterations happened after 1986 I believe. That was the last time i saw the bizzarr scalp tearing version on the Geraldo Rivera show.
There's all kinds of evidence ,you're just too afraid to look at it. Just cause there's a few mistakes doesn't mean all of it is wrong. They were probably right about Lucien Sarti as the Badgeman.
Very easy to explain, the bullet in the back was pushed out when he was given cpr. The throat bullet was removed when his body was stolen by the secret service, they took his body out of the casket when LBJ begged her to witness him being sworn in. They flew jfk back to DC as fast as possible on another jet to give maximum time to change his wounds.
David Lifton shows there were several caskets delivered to Bethesda at different times. I believe his best guess is that the body was altered at Bethesda before the autopsy started.
Last time I corresponded with Lifton he was finishing another book.
I'm most familar with Fetzger, who I repect a lot. If you respect Lifton, then he's probably has good info. since i repect your opinion SCGATOR2001. I respect any non Gov. researcher who's hones.
roflmao nuff said Fetzger quack wacko, lifton lying piece of shit who only makes up fake shit to make money with his lies. respect lifton? hell no he's as stupid as you are. take a guess - how many people do you figure were in dealy that day
Fetzger is one of the best I've seen. And any of the guys Clifton or the other Gov. Flunky say are no good, have to be excellent, cause these guys are as brainwashed and retarded as they come, as we all know by now.
Jackass, there are some things that can be matched obviously. We're talking about the things that can't be seen on that side OF THE STREET IDIOT. CAN'T YOU GRASP THE CONCEPT. THOSE OTHER FILMS DON'T SHOW THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIS HEAD.
Clifton you ignorant slut! I soo enjoy ripping you new asshole after asshole. Your super collossal ego makes it that much more fun to squash like a bug.
Clifton you ignorant slut. As usual, you twist my words to suit your rediculous ideas. Mooreman remembered it from day one idiot. Just another fact you can't accept cause like a spoiled child you can't admit when you're wrong.
No you're just a pimply faced jerk off wanna be with delusions of grandeur. You have no sources except the hsca, the Gov. the perpetrators who have a vested interest in keeping this and all their other scams like 911 the Federal Reserve etc. going forever.
How can the other films show all the details when they were on the wrong side of the street from Z. film? We aren't talking big obvious things. We are talking small details that happen in a second or two.
Now you admit it's altered but it's Jim Garrison's fault. You really are a complete mental retard.
Read the article I sent, it explains all about the Z.film. He was bought off. It was altered from the very beginning. Mostly sanitizing the head shot, making the sign to tall to block the limo etc. I should have known it was over your head. You just don't have the mental capacity to grasp these things.
If you want the testimonies of people who saw a missile come out from JFK's sheets when they were unloading him from the casket to a gurney, you will simply have to read a book, like this. I am sure there is something in there as well on a doctor's view on the bullet in JFK's chest cavity.
Killing the Truth: Deceit and Deception in the JFK Case
If you look at another of my videos you'll see that the FBI agent at the autopsy said when the doctor probed the back wound he said NO POINT OF EXIT (with both his hand and an instrument).
Specter & others turned this into an exit from JFK's throat, something that is ridiculous and laughable.
Look at my video THE BIG LIE and you'll see that the DISC Channel showed the bullet would have exited JFK's CHEST, not his throat which shows the single bullet did not happen, that shows conspiracy.
First you need to verify they actually saw it the first day, and identify them! You can't. Homer McMahon who worked for the CIA at NPIC received the film the night of the assassination and was told to produce 40 frames at key spots. Along with Dan Rather and his viewing of it over 10 times we know there were more shots, no interruption in the motorcade, and a dramatic shot to the head. McMahon testified before the HSCA.
I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls. Let me guess the hsca? It was given to the FBI, Secret Service and Z. sold his rights to Life mag. which many say was CIA.
Must you be a MORON 24/7? Copies were given by Zapruder to the FBI and Secret Service then he sold his to Life magazine who were supposedly CIA. I also heard H. Hunt got a copy.
Yes you do, if you want to find anomalies, not seen by the eye. For instance, The woman Mooreman said when she took her famous shot, she had stepped off the curb into the street, but the Z. film shows her still on the grass. That's just one example. That's something you wouldn't notice. Try using some common sense for a change.
throat bullet removed? roflmao just put on a hat saying you are an idiot it would be no diff then saying there was a throat bullet THERE IS NO EVIDENCE A BULLET WAS REMOVED FROMT THE THROAT OMG THAT IIS STUPID BEYOND BELIEF!!
Clifton you ignorant slut! Oh so now anyone who glanced at it is an expert? You think you're an expert and you've seen it many times yet you can't get it right. That's because there are many versions out there. And you seem to have a learning disability.
I've said a hundred GOD DAMNED times. HE WAS DEAD, DEAD, DEAD before anyone had a chance to study the film and see the alterations you fucking retard. Can you prove he wasn't bought off or CIA.
Clifton you ignorant slut! Let try to explain some things so even your pea brain can understand. Some versions of the Z. film do show some slowing down of the carlike the one on the Geraldo video. Most others don't. Care to explain that? None of us know how much or if at all or when the film was altered before 1975 cause it was not available for study by researchers or the public. So they had 12 yrs. to do as they pleased with it. Showing it once to reporters proves nothing.
continued..... Since when do reporters qualify as photo analysis experts? If I showed you a film once, then 12 yrs. later ask you to recall every detail, it's highly unlikely you could do it. If I removed some frames which equaled 1-2 seconds or less, you would not be able to tell the difference. We are talking minute changes.
Continued ... Changes that could only be seen from the right side. The ones that were removed are ones that showed his scalp ripping away. Of course they may have removed a lot more, I don't believe the one first shown on Geraldo was completely original but I know they have been altering it since 1975.
Clfton you ignorant slut! We knew no names would be forth coming. Check mate ASSWIPE. AS usual no evidence at all. All BULLSHIT. Showing the film once to a bunch of reporters proves nothing, then in court still doesn't prove much. You'd have to give the film to independant experts to study. Calling reporters experts, now that's rich. How dum can you get?
Bullshit. You can't see much brain or blood from the Z. film. It's been removed and sanitized. The earlier versions had much more spray. The point is, if the exit was in the front he would have had much more on him and the front and side of the car. The majority was to the rear, that's why jacky climbed out to retrieve some skull or brain matter. LBJ was destroying evidence.
You won't talk about the Altgens photo cause it's alterations are undeniable. Those films CAN'T show the EXACT things, MORON. They can show some things, but they can't show the head shot from the same angle, so if frames were missing you can't tell. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD AND DON'T REPEAT IT 10,000 times.
We are still waiting for those names and dates of your so-called experts. Those other films do NOT show the identical things Imbecile. They can't cause they were on the oposite side of the street retard. They can't show the head shot to the temple, oh I forgot you believe the headshot only came from the rear. Funny how those films don't show that. Wierd how all the brain matter and blood was all over the rear of the car.
If the shot only entered from the rear and exited from the front, wouldn't the blood and brain matter all go forward onto Connelly? Could that be why Johnson had Connely's cloths cleaned, and the car's rear end cleaned and then totaly rebuilt?
Clifton you ignorant slut! What experts would that be? Name them and what date did they get the film for study? And if so can you prove they wern't CIA? We will wait for your answer with baited breath.
So, all you have to do is get the 20 reporters who saw the film and get their take. Can't do it, can you? Again, those who did see the film saw and verified what they saw, and is different than what we see today, more known commonly as the Extant Film. I suggest if you want some experts on the subject, you read a good book. You can read the Great Zapruder Film Hoax online for free if you google it right.
And just how many were photgraphic experts? Was the film given to them for study? What did they have to compare it to? Do you see how dum your question is?
All that is irrelevant. The proof is on any Z. film videothey proove alterations. What about the Altgens photo? Do you deny it's altered yes or no kook. Explain how ruby's face or whoever it is is blotted out?
2 of those cops Harry Freeman and Stavis Ellis said there was a hole in it. They were right next to it. You don't know shit cause all you read is hsca info. The nurse said she leaned against the fender. So you are proved wrong again.
The only thing you own is a skull full of rocks. All you do is spew Gov. crap. No proof. I prooved you wrong with Weldon's videos and jfkLancer forum. There's dozens of Z. film alternation videos which make you look like the fool you are.
It wasn't alalysed until yrs. later IMBECILE after Zapruder was dead. Can't you read english jerk off. Would you be able to remember exact details of a film you saw once 12 yrs. prior? I doubt it. How hard would it be to it be for the Gov. to steal those 3 original versions and replace them with edited versions. Pull your retarded head out of the hsca's ass.
I just read up that the original z.films were given to the FBI, Secret Service, and Z. sold his to Life magazine which was supposed to be CIA. H. Hunt got a copy I heard. S
I didn't say they were all CIA. I said you can't prove they weren't. Even if you could, it wouldn't make any difference. As I've said a hundred times. We don't know how much or if it was changed at all prior to 1975. The other films do not show his head being hit from the right angle. They were on the wrong side, cause he was hit in the right temple, but the Z. film had those frames taken out a long time ago, probably in the 1970s. I've seen earler versions.
I now believe it was altered as soon as the Gov. got their hands on it. Z. may have shown the original but it was replaced soon after and he was payed $100 grand as hush money. More extensive alterations were done after 1986. That's the last time I saw the version with the bizzarr scalp tearing frames on the Geraldo show.
No MORON. The CIA had infiltrated the US media starting in the 50s according to Operation Mockingbird. That doesn't mean every person, just upper management. Only an IDIOT like you would suggest those 4 films can be matched frame for frame. The other films are across the street and don't show the critical headshot. So explain how they can match? It does not show the limo slowing to almost a stop. First you said 20 now it's 70 people. Can you name them all?
You have not proved the windhield the hsca has is original. Doug Weldon's excellent video series details what happened to the limo. He has an audio tape of the man at the Ford plant who confirms the through and through hole in the windshield and that it was destroyed on pt. 8-9. He even shows where the shooter on the south knoll probably was.
Clfton you ignorant slut! I read an article last night that explained the whole Z. film situation. He was bought off. It was altered from the very beginning at some top secret CIA lab in Rochester NY. I sent it to you . I suggest you read it and educate yourself. It's called JFKcountercoup The Zapruder Film Mystery 12/19/2009. Everyone google it.
Only an idiot like you would suggest that those films can be matched frame for frame. Missing frames of Z. film which would equal seconds of time can not be seen from the other side of the street.
Hey chucklehead, that guy was the man who performed the autopsy on Oswald, he sawed the top of his skull off but didn't see those marks on the exhumed skull. IMO the Skull & Bones society probably stole his head and replaced it with a fake. I'm sure he wasn't a liar.
Look you GOD Damned dyslexic imbecile. I've told you many times, They may have been shown the original in 1963. It wasn't shown to the public until 1975. 5 yrs. after Zapruder was dead. Critical analysis and arguments hadn't begun yet idiot. So your argument makes no sense. Those films can't be matched to each other. How can you compare them when they are on different sides of the street. Your assinine reasoning shows how rediculous you are.
Some things can be matched but crucial stuff like the head shot to the temple can't be seen on those other films. It has nothing to do with Jacky on the trunk. So stop repeating rediculous things.
This old girl wouldn't know a "bullet-ho" from her "butt-ho". I am quite certain that the Secret Service just let her amble on over, lean against the car, and exclaim, "look . . . I see a bullet-ho". Yeah - Right . . . This is nothing more than some old dyke trying to hitch up to her 15 minutes of fame. If she is such a crack shot crack pot, maybe she did it. The Conspiracy Theories have certainly included everyone else.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 You're not very convincing. Seriously, you're making yourself look ridiculous by clinging to the pathetic fabrication of the Warren Commission.
draoi99 1 month ago
@draoi99 NO photographic evidence to support evidence of a bullet penetration through the windshield. The crater effect would have been more than obvious in the Altgens photograph and it is not. As to any speculation that this photograph could have been altered, it was not confiscated nor developed by any government agency. If you are prepared to incriminate Altgens or the AP Wire Service into your conspiracy theory, then be my guest. It only makes the theory more preposterous.
BlueWolfe38 4 weeks ago
I'm less interested in the crazy theories than in the obvious mental illness of most of the people who espouse them. they seem like to capital letters
andrelebaron 1 month ago
@andrelebaron If anyone still believes the crock of shit which passes for the official story they are seriously delusional.
draoi99 1 month ago
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constealnav 2 months ago
@constealnav Hoover was the most important member of the coup that Killed JFK. Without Hoover, LBJ would have been exposed almost immediately.
Hoover's FBI collected all the Dallas evidence and took it to Washington. Once he had all that, he was in control. LBJ hand picked the members of the Warren Commission and one of them, the WHITE RAT, was instrumental in fooling that pack of fools.
The windshield bullet is just one of MANY lies.
LBJ made Hoover FBI Director for life as his reward.
SCGATOR2001 2 months ago
@SCGATOR2001 The Warren Commision , was a joke.. They left out so many eyewitness reports.. I have seen so many great video's that are hard to find now, Youtube delete a file.. I'm sorry for the how stupid statement.. We know this was so wrong from the beginning.. The Truth would be nice..
constealnav 2 months ago
These Evil LBJ statements WE believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
YOU want to see a guilty MAN? check this out , = LBJ coments on JFK assasination 1969.wmv
LBJ Evil joke about JFK
"I told? him that morning at breakfast...Son, I'm afraid this just ant' your day. Your going to the morgue and I'm going back to the White House"
JFK
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cruisersism 3 months ago
The JFK conspiracy genre is renowned for its lack of diversity. Zero blacks, and very, very few women. To have a female, professional eyewitness to a bullet hole in the windshield is tremendously credible evidence of a conspiracy.
matt605 4 months ago
I have looked and looked for an obituary and to find some documentation of her cause of death (on 2/27/99). Does anyone here know?
lzambeni 5 months ago
We known the shooting took place at 12:30. We know Oswald was in the TSBD at that time on second floor cafeteria. So why is he pulled from a movie theatre at 1:10 pm. Was there a reason he leaves work and goes to a movie by himself. It just looks a bit out of place.
390bullitt1968 7 months ago
If proof of a second gunman had been shown to be so obvious it could not be covered up, what would that prove. Oswald was dead , so there was a second gunman who was not caught. Again, why were the FBI / LBJ so intent on burying that.
I guess the answer is obvious, but these events like OK city / JFK always need to push the lone nut theory. TIA
390bullitt1968 7 months ago
now you see why alot of evidence was locked up- everything has a context -one piece here -one piece of evidence there -that's all it takes to break a case..this is powerful eyewitness testimony- back in the day- she did not know the significance of a bullet hole through the windshield-back in the day she coudl've ended up in a tragic accident. the car was key evidnece just like the clothes. and body of kennedy-in each case this key evidence was compromised. oh well, just another co-incidence
larrywheels 7 months ago
TIN FOIL HAT FOR SALE
ghostdogmovies 8 months ago
At .41 it looks like they are putting in a windshield on the limo behind the cops.
overkill3356 1 year ago
Jgarfbihoover, You dummy LBJ began ducking down on Houston Street. LBJ and Hoover covered it all up. Oswald was part of a plan to thwart the assassination. Plot coordinated by David Atlee Phillips, General Lansdale, E. Howard Hunt, Bill Harvey (exprets in coup-d'etats). Or do you think Lee outsmarted the entire intelligence of the USA? Wake the hell up. The right wing was not going to wait until 1984 to get the White House back. Coincidence Oswald got job in TSBD in October?
Humes53 1 year ago
@Humes53 "Coincidence Oz got job in TSBD in Oct?
Or a bigger "Coincidence" that Ozzie got the job from a conversation over a morning coffee clutch between Ruth Payne & Neighbors who suggested to Marina that Oz apply at the TSBD because of a possible part time opening during the upcoming busy season (he did) You're just not only unfamiliar w/this case u border on RETARDATION & MONGOLOIDISM ! Better stick w/the 'Hobo Hitman' (mystery tramps) that fits u hillbilly NUTCASE'S better ! DUNCE !
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@Humes53 "Or do you think Lee outsmarted the entire intelligence of the USA?"
How about these people DUNCE !? Booth, Guiteau, Czolgosz, Lawrence, Schrank, Zangara, Collazo and Torresola, Pavlick (1st JFK Assassination Attempt) Byck, Fromme, Moore, Hinckley, Hussein, Corder, Duran, Yousef, Pickett, Massoud, Atta, Arutyunian? U.S. Attorn.'s Manual, "Of the ppl who come to the SS's attention as creating a possible danger to the president approx. 75% are mentally ill."
GET A SHRINK'S HELP DUNCE !
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@10Faenor "The CIA & mafia had pics w/young men & boys"
Authoratative JEH Biographer Richard Gid Powers cites John Weitz wartime SS officer who according to Anthony Summers was at a dinner party (1950s) when host showed him a picture & identified me having sex with another man (Is ridiculous) Weitz did not himself recognize me & he refused to identify the party host. Nor did Summers ever see the photo. Another
"witness" JFK fantasist, & "controversial" figure that lacks veracity".
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
And the identities of the leaders of the coup to kill JFK? Probably Nixon, LBJ and George H.W. Bush. That's why the U.S. government doesn't want to tell the citizens.
Why kind of democracy would the people think we have here if they knew that these three crooks were in on getting rid of JFK? These bums would have never ever seen the Oval Office without the killing of John and Bobby Kennedy!
Humes53 1 year ago
@Humes53 "And the identities of the leaders of the kook'de'attack"
Mark Lame, Jim Fetztard, Robert 'Garbage' Groden, Ms. Kunt, Fat Pat, and SCGATOR2001 !
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
Just about everyone is looking for that video of Hoover in female clothing. He is wearing a hair bun and what looks like a booby bra under his shirt.
that is conclusive proof that this perv was owned. Hoover controlled the investigations. Hoover supplied the Warren Commission criminals the phony data. The WC criminals were lead by Hoover.
Hoover claimed the mafia never existed. Hoover was just as much a criminal in the cover up as was the controlled media, owned by the CIA gangsters.
10Faenor 1 year ago
@10Faenor You don't need any more proof to be sure Hoover was in on the coup. Forged autopsy photos, forged Z film, altered witness' testimony etc. Hoover was key to the success of the plot. Nitwits like Bugliosi still can't comprehend the magnitude of the lies.
The other key player was LBJ, without LBJ, Hoover would have been exposed, it took both LBJ and J Edgar Hoover to pull this off. Since the US Gov't knows this is true they will tell any lie to hide the ties to these scum.
SCGATOR2001 1 year ago 2
@- spot on.
390bullitt1968 7 months ago
@SCGATOR2001 Read the book, "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Lamar Waldron and you'll realize the utter genius in the planning and execution of this crime. Those in the gov't. who covered it up did not commit the crime itself but did so for other reasons. Hoover had nothing to do with it but covered it up because he had information that could have prevented it. Robert F. Kennedy directed the autopsy and covered up the truth for well founded reasons of national security. READ THE BOOK!!
changing3 6 months ago
@10Faenor I agree 10Faenor & how are you! I've just got on the internet & I am amazed. I thought I new a lot about the Kennedy assassination, but my God, there's so much research here. I feel like a kid in a candy store. Anyway. I agree with you, Hoover was a nasty piece of work, an evil spider of a man, capable of anything --and he hated the Kennedy's. He's certainly a prime suspect. You know most people don't really know what a crazed bastard Hoover was, how he terrorized citizens.
mightymissk 1 year ago
@mightymissk There was a massive 'Conspiracy' :
Exculpate the guilt of Lee Harvey Oswald !
And
There was a 'Cover Up' :
Incriminate the innocent ! LBJ , SS , FBI , Castro , CIA , ect. , ect. (218 assassins SO FAR !)
Whew ! If it wasn't for us LNer's exposing this plot , JFK's death might have been interpreted as somethng other than a senseless act of violence !
Live with it ! Ms. Kunt !
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@mightymissk "He's certainly a prime suspect"
Like I would of loved to see RFK, head of the Justice Dept & my beloved FBI on 11/22/63, with a myrtred brother eh ? Yer so stewpid it make me ears hurt just listening to ya !
"I thought I new a lot about the Kennedy assassination"
Probably enough to qualify as a 'Hatriot' , any momo with no evidence that tinks it's 'Patriotic' to 'Hate' ones own government irrationally !
Live with it ! Ms. Kunt !
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@mightymissk "I agree 10Faenor & how are you ?"
Cranky, whiny, always in an extra-shitty mood that the wrong side won the Cold War, that LHO is the lone assassin and that it's taught in all schools, in US history books through-out the USA. Other than that he's a worthless piece of shit thats been damp sponged once to often by drinking too deeply from the CONspiracy well, what else ?
BUSTED !
Signed Jgar
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
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@mightymissk Mel Ayton has challenged Anthony Summers's "evidence" of Hoover's homosexuality lacks veracity according to two of Hoover's most acclaimed and authoritative biographers. Richard Gid Powers and Athan Theoharis both believe Summers's sources are not credible. Athan Theoharis said that the popularization of Hoover's homosexuality was the result of "shoddy journalism." Powers also questioned the reliability of many of Summers's witnesses quoted in the book.
Well Ms. Kunt ?
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@mightymissk Powers said that JEH was such a hated figure that many sheeple were prepared to believe the worst about him & to "badmouth" him. Powers cites John Weitz, wartime SS officer according to Summers was at a dinner party in the 1950s when the host showed him a picture & identified JEH having sex w/another man. Weitz did not himself recognize JEH & he refused to identify the party host. Nor did Summers ever see the photograph.
Ms. Kunt BUSTED AGAIN !
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@10Faenor have they found that video of J. Edgar in drag? They won't, because none exists. You have shown the world you know nothing about the JFK case.
cyberwing777 1 year ago
@cyberwing777 Gay Edgar Hoover was a queer. Proof?
Videos: 9fqMA9YV3ks and 3N3Vg5l-ITU
He is sitting with his crime friends and certainly wearing a female hair bun and possible booby bra under his shirt, at 2:40 - 2:50. The CIA & mafia had pics of this perv with young men & boys. He was also involved in felony insider stock manipulation. The CIA & mafia owned this piece of shit.
This felon fag supplied the phony docs to the WC criminals to help them cover up the assassination conspiracy.
10Faenor 1 year ago
@10Faenor "He (JEH) was also involved in felony insider stock manipulation"
Nazi Tactic's by Communist 10Faenor ! Accuse the innocent to exonerate the guilty !
Joe Sr. engaged in all sorts of insider trading that wasn't illegal at the time, and then when he became SEC Commissioner, he outlawed all of the practices that made him millions !
Every $Dollar$ was stolen off the backs of working ppl so the Kennedy's could engage in 'Rum-Running' and 'Communistic Red Romances' with 'Mob 'Molls' !
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@10Faenor Read the book, "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Lamar Waldron and you'll realize the utter genius in the planning and execution of this crime. Those who covered it up (all part of the US government) did not commit the crime itself. They covered it up for other reasons. Robert F. Kennedy directed the autopsy and covered up the truth for well founded reasons of national security. READ THE BOOK!!
changing3 6 months ago
@changing3 You idiot. RFK did not conduct any autopsy. LOL. That was really stupid of you. Waldron & Hartmann are known CIA writer goons.
10Faenor 6 months ago
@10Faenor Is that how you have a discussion? By calling someone you disagree with an idiot? Do you want to continue our discussion like that? If you do, I can do it much better than you. What's it gonna be? It's your call!
changing3 6 months ago
@changing3 Bwahahaha. Can you really imagine a non-medical bureaucrat brother conducting an autopsy in a military hospital? The autopsy was conducted by the conspirators military doctor - fool. That nonsense by the CIA stooges was already discredited. It was CIA total bullshit called AMWORLD.
OK - my call is - you're stuck on stupid.
10Faenor 6 months ago
yes I agree with you ...its has been a lie.. and it was a coup ..
sdhscrosscountry 1 year ago 4
@sdhscrosscountry So WHO had the power to pull this off?
There is a small list. The CIA/FBI or... could have technically done it but how in the world would they have controlled the investigations? This has always been a lie that should have fallen apart.
The only person who had the power and was actively trying to get ONE investigation was the most obvious suspect, LBJ. VP Lyndon Johnson had a shady history of corruption all the way up through murder. His co-conspirator was J Edgar.
SCGATOR2001 1 year ago
@sdhscrosscountry "butt how in the world would they have controlled the investigations?"
Silly Question ! The Warren Commission Members were not investigators, they relied on the FBI investigation by 1000's of FBI agents, newspaper men, video's, pathologists, 26,000 interviews !
Proves if you ask the wrong Q you get the wrong A you wanted..
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover Of course that couples up with FBI confiscated all the evidence from Dallas, LBJ worked overtime to get ONE investigation that was under the control of the FBI (Imagine if you are one of the conspirators and the State of Texas, Congress, FBI etc are going to have INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS!).
It was nicely controlled with one investigation: Hoover controlled the evidence, Johnson controlled the intelligence agencies and impossible things were made possible. by LBJ and Hoover
SCGATOR2001 1 year ago
@SCGATOR2001 "FBI confiscated the evidence from TX"
WRONG! The DPD retained photo proof (See Book '1st Day Evidence') of LHO's fingerprints & guilt on rifle !
"LBJ worked 4 1 investigation under FBI control"
WRONG ! FBI IS THE ONLY FED. INVESTIGATORS THAT WOULD INVESTIGATE THE MURDER OF A FED. OFFICIAL ! IF U'RE SUGGESTING A STATE INVESTIGATE THE CASE FOR THE FED'S U GOT IT BACKASSWARDS ! FED>STATE>COUNTY>CITY IN THAT PECKING ORDER ! BTW WTF R U DOING MAKING VIDEO'S IF U DON'T KNOW THIS ?
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@SCGATOR2001 You're correct and have good reason to distrust our government but the speifics you mention are incorrect.
changing3 6 months ago
@SCGATOR2001 You're mistaken. Even a President doesn't have that power. Those who everyone thinks covered it up, did so. They did so because each had a lot to lose if it was solved. NONE were guilty of the crime. There was more than one motive to derail the investigationS. THAT is how it was possible and THAT is why a huge conspiricy wasn't necessary. It boils down to a CIA which did, and still does operate above the law. A CIA which illegaly recruited the mafia to assassinate Castro.
changing3 6 months ago
This places the gunman somewhere over the by pass ..there was a eye witness to a strange man there.
sdhscrosscountry 1 year ago
@sdhscrosscountry Once you see that there is proof where this gunman is located then you can put it all together. There is no need to guess any more.
WHY is this still a mystery? It's because the US Government will tell any lie to hide the identities of the leaders of the coup that killed Kennedy. This has never been a mystery, it's always been a lie.
SCGATOR2001 1 year ago
SCGATOR2001: this is the most interesting bullet to me. Have you traced it back to source yet? The images of that hole show it was slightly to the driver's side of the central rear-view mirror and at that level, which indicates a shot from the left front with a slightly downward trajectory. Where does that place the third gunman? Inside a stationary lorry on Commerce? Only an expert marksman could get past driver and Connallys to hit Kennedy in the neck, with sun reflecting on windshield.
pimperneldog 1 year ago
@pimperneldog The secret to solving the Kennedy assassination is to IGNORE EVERYTHING the US Government has ever touched. The Windshield picture the US Government supplied shows a crack when this witness says it is a clean bullet hole through the windshield with no cracks & in her opinion fired from the front.
What is damning to the US Government is that she is NOT alone, others say they saw the same thing.
The real story: WHY is the US Gov't lying? Easily answered now by witnesses
SCGATOR2001 1 year ago
@SCGATOR2001 "Easily answered now by witnesses"
* AS IF WITNESSES WOULDN'T LIE THEIR ASSES OFF FOR A QUICK BUCK ?
* SEEMS SAGGY IS STILL PLAYING TMWKK BANNED AT YT FOR COPYRIGHT VIOLATIONS ? WE'D BETTER TELL YT ADMIN. ABOUT THIS. CAN'T CONTINUE WITH SEDTIOUS CONSPIRACY NOW CAN WE SAGGY?
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
SCGATOR2001: this is the most interesting bullet to me. Have you traced it back to source yet? The images of that hole show it was slightly to the driver's side of the central rear-view mirror and at that level, which indicates a shot from the left front with a slightly downward trajectory. Where does that place the third gunman? Inside a stationary lorry on Commerce? Only an expert marksman could get past driver and Connallys to hit Kennedy in the neck, with sun reflecting on windshield.
pimperneldog 1 year ago
Guys just google and watch the video "JFK-Case for conspiracy I" it starts getting down to buisness at about 20 minutes into it. It will show multiple shooters, Gov. fabrication of evidence, and proves many things.
sargoth37 1 year ago
The extreme ripping of the scalp was there before. The last time i saw it was 1986 on the Geraldo show. I haven't seen it since. Also haven't seen the big chunk of scalp that was thrown rearward during the headshot. Probably cause it looked so fake.
sargoth37 1 year ago
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sargoth37 1 year ago
Define evidence. That which is put out by the Gov. I THINK NOT!
sargoth37 1 year ago
Then why won't you tell us all when was the first time you saw the Z. film? HMMM
WE ARE WAITING!!!
sargoth37 1 year ago
Hey DUMBASS didn't you know there were many .222 shells found. That info. on files is Bullshit. You need to do more reading, Any good scientist will tell you dumbass, not to limit your research to one group's data. You look at all opinions and then draw your conclusions. That's simple standard scientific practice. But I guess that's just beyond your comprehension.
sargoth37 1 year ago
The twin info. on Files was made up by his ex wife or daughter.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Yes you are the DUMBASS for believing the perpetrators. You haven't named 1 book. or website. I would trust an honest conspiracy researcher who doesn't have a vested interest over any Gov. source. In fact, they are putting their lives at risk.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Google it Gov. asslicker. Dozens of articles are available. Witnesses all agree the car came almost ot a stop. Most Z. films don't show that. Mooreman said she stepped off the curb, Z. doesn't show it. Z. film shows Mrs. Connally and Greer turn their heads faster than humanly possible. Connally said he was NOT hit by the same bullet as Jfk. Greer and Kellerman said many bullets were entering the car. Greer said one came through the windshield. Google all this.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Name 10 books you've read Clifton. If you don't then shut the fuck up!!!
sargoth37 1 year ago
I sent you a bunch of videos of dealey witnesses that dispute the Warren commisson theory.
sargoth37 1 year ago
You're wrong, cops right next to the limo saw the hole. One cop said you could put a pencil through it. Only FBI and Secret Service who were in on it said there was no hole. The HSCA windshield was fabricated. Look at jfkLancer forum "Hole in the Windshield". Scroll to bottom. Also look at Doug Weldon's videos.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Everyone see how this clown operates. He's says he's read over 100 books but can't name 10. You are so full of shit.
They were trying to make it look like a rear headshot.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Hey Retard, the other 2 film show things from the left side and far away with people in the way. You can't see any detail of the headshot which is on the right side.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I said over and over IDIOT that if Z. did show it that soon then it was original. Are WE CLEAR. After that the Gov. had all the originals and switched them, they had 6 yrs. to work on it.
sargoth37 1 year ago
And what have you given? Zip natha Squat Bullshit. No articles, no videos, just Gov. propaganda. Google any Zapruder hoax article. They show solid incontrovertable proof that the Z. film has been totaly remade with all kinds of errors. If you saw the prestine version of the z. film from the Geraldo show from 1986 you would be shocked.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Bull, Files told the story pretty accurately. You even admitted the W. commisson was fiction. The huge snap of JFK's head to the left and back proves it came from the Files position.
sargoth37 1 year ago
There would be no reason for conspiracy experts to change the film . The only ones who had something to gain would be the Gov. The warren c. LBJ, etc. They wanted to make it look like a rear shot instead of J. Files temple shot. I remember one version of the head shot that showed a large chunk of scalp that was thrown backward . Haven't seen that one in years.
sargoth37 1 year ago
What a load of horseshit!! The Nix and muchmore films are too far away and on the wrong side to show key datails of the headshot which were on the right side. Z. was paid off 150 grand for the rights and then his original copy. Yes he showed the original but after that the Gov. switched all except howard Hunt's with the altered version. Why else would Life Mag. which was Cia controled buy it for 150 grand then sell it back for a dollar.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I suppose all the people running to the grassy knoll after a shooter means nothing? The warren Commission did it's best to ignore witnesses and then threaten and harrass them to make them believe shots only came from the TSBD.
sargoth37 1 year ago
you said you now admit changes were made on the Z. film. What changes are you admitting to? Did you look at the article about all the changes on the Z. film?
sargoth37 1 year ago
The original has never been seen on youtube. It was altered after the gov. got it's hands on it. I don't know how much was done cause I've never seen it. They have been altering it since after 1986. Like I said the only noticable stuff was the headshot. The rest is shown by experts with computers etc.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I'm telling you I've seen various versions of the head shot. One version showed a big chunk of scalp or whatever it was, flying to the rear. The headshot keeps changing. The present version doesn't show much headsnap. I guess back then they didn't think people would remember.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Give a list of ten books you read. You've never even seen the z.film before pcs and the internet came out. Am I right? The Z. film from what I've read was altered to make it look like the shot came from the rear, and they didn't want the film to show the car coming to a stop. Some believe the sign was enlarged to block some things.
sargoth37 1 year ago
That's what all the articles say. He was payed in 25 grand installments. Some say $150,000.
sargoth37 1 year ago
What I saw on early the 1975-1986 Z. film, I haven't seen on any film since. you would know what I mean if you had seen it. But after reading many articles , I believe all the films I see on youtube are totaly revamped. I sent you the article.
sargoth37 1 year ago
send me the films that show what your takling about. What I saw on the early Z. versions I've not seen on any other film or on modern Z. films since 1986.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Yes you do. You said you have been studing this for 30 yrs. but you don't remember the changes in the Z. film? You would have if that were true.
sargoth37 1 year ago
What changes made you change your mind. Explain
sargoth37 1 year ago
What the hell are you talking about? It wasn't shown to the general public till 1975. Didn't you know that Mr. expert who's read 100 books that he can't name. A court room is hardly the general public. How would dealey Plaza people see it?
sargoth37 1 year ago
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sargoth37 1 year ago
@sargoth37 so you're fucked up position is the z was first shown in 75 and then altered in 86? omg just totally absurd. omg insane. let me guess - fetger told you that? figures there is no film that was released by the govt or z that ever showed what you say. so why did they supposedly do these alterations? what was ther reason. WHERE R THE NAMES OF THE DEALY PLAZA WITNESSES WHO SAID Z WAS NOT ACCURATE FUCKER??
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
@sargoth37 you would not need or expect to see the split from the left side as the split was on the right dumbass. the z shows the head splitting - i.e. the front being blown out.
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
That's what I've been saying you can't see minute details on the right side of his head with those other films which are too far away and have people in the way. The present Z. film shows some of the splitting but nowhere near the amount as the earlier pre 1986 versions. Just as some versions show the car slowing much more like the Geraldo one . Others show no slowing at all.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I say again what year did you first see the Z. film? I'm saying if it's true that Z. showed it immediatly before giving copies to the FBI and Secret Service, then it was most likely the original. After giving copies to them they had it altered. After Life got his copy according to that article, the only one left that was original was Hunts. There is some speculation here, so I'm saying it's 100% proof. The Gov. still probably have the originals. All the others in circulation are altered.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Name them all? We'll wait. I doubt if you read more than 10. And they're probably all Gov. sources.
sargoth37 1 year ago
JESUS CHRIST!!! You have got to be one of the stupidest people I've ever come across. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I GOT TO SAY IT. I'M NOT SAYING, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SEEN FROM THE RIGHT TO MATCH. THE ONLY THING I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE RIPPING OF HIS SCALP WHICH CAN'T BE SEEN FROM THE OTHER FILMS. ARE WE CLEAR?
sargoth37 1 year ago
What are the changes that you are talikng about. dumbfuck?
sargoth37 1 year ago
Who's taliking about Jackie on the trunk? I've told you time after time, I am only talking about things that can't be seen from the other side. The ripping of his scalp, etc.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I should have known your pea brains couldn't grasp some concepts. I remember it cause it was bizarre how the scalp spit in two. I also have a tabloid on JFK from 1978 which hi-lighted one of those frames. I'm looking at it now. I was always a jfk assass. addict. What yr. was the first time you saw the Z. film?
sargoth37 1 year ago
Since when is the CIA not part of the Gov. Covering up a murder makes you complicit. Allen Dullis who was head of the Cia was fired by JFK for lying to him. Then he gets put on the Warren Commission. Talk about corruption.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Not even close to the Bizarre way it looked on the Z. film pre 1986.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Remember this was way before PCs and the internet. You couldn't see any time you wanted.
sargoth37 1 year ago
REETTAARRRRDD.....PUT DOWN THE CRACKPIPE AND TRY TO FOCUS.
The THINGS I'M TALKING ABOUT CAN ONLY BE SEEN FROM THE RIGHT SIDE.
GOT IT. OR IS THAT JUST TO COMPLICATED FOR YOUR SMALL WARPED PEA BRAIN.
sargoth37 1 year ago
The things I'm talking about like the ripping of his scalp can only be seen from the right side. It may have been on 5-10 frames, That might be less than a second of time, I don't know. I doubt that it would show up on the other films, but they had the other films and could easily modify those as well.
sargoth37 1 year ago
It's already been explained. Z. probably did show the original if as you say it was shown that early. The Gov. altered it as soon as they could. They switched versions when he sold his to Life. The only original version left was the one he probablly gave to Howard Hunt. The alterations were not hugely noticable. Read the last half of "JFKcountercoup the Zapruder Film Mystery"
sargoth37 1 year ago
JfkLancer forum "Hole in the windshield" proves there were 2 different windshields. There is a closeup comparison of both. They are different, so your single windshield in the archives is debunked and proven to be a lie. Every one take a look.
sargoth37 1 year ago
You're a real master...bater. It's not how many books you read. It's how much truth is in those books.
sargoth37 1 year ago
And when did you do a pole? Apparently many did notice the differences. Why do you think there is so many saying it's altered? Including you. You better go back and remove all the posts of you ranting about how it's never been altered.
sargoth37 1 year ago
You've already admitted the Z. film is altered. So what changed your mind?
sargoth37 1 year ago
No dumbass. That article i sent you explains all about the Z. film. Z had 3-4 made. He gave 1 to FBI, 1 to the Secret Service, possibly 1 to Howard Hunt, and then he sold the rights to his, to Life mag. The Gov. wanted all the originals. So they got him to sell his copy for 100 grand in hush money.
sargoth37 1 year ago
continued... They had all the originals except maybe Hunt's. They altered it. Z. may have shown the original to reporters. but after that they replaced all originals with altered ones. Life then sold the altered one back to him for a $1.00 so the story goes. More extensive alterations happened after 1986 I believe. That was the last time i saw the bizzarr scalp tearing version on the Geraldo Rivera show.
sargoth37 1 year ago
hey dumbfuck - how many people do you suppose were in dealy plaza?
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
Who cares dumfuck!!!
sargoth37 1 year ago
But the guy who made the statement did the original autopsy on Oswald dipshit.
sargoth37 1 year ago
There's all kinds of evidence ,you're just too afraid to look at it. Just cause there's a few mistakes doesn't mean all of it is wrong. They were probably right about Lucien Sarti as the Badgeman.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Very easy to explain, the bullet in the back was pushed out when he was given cpr. The throat bullet was removed when his body was stolen by the secret service, they took his body out of the casket when LBJ begged her to witness him being sworn in. They flew jfk back to DC as fast as possible on another jet to give maximum time to change his wounds.
sargoth37 1 year ago
David Lifton shows there were several caskets delivered to Bethesda at different times. I believe his best guess is that the body was altered at Bethesda before the autopsy started.
Last time I corresponded with Lifton he was finishing another book.
SCGATOR2001 1 year ago
I'm most familar with Fetzger, who I repect a lot. If you respect Lifton, then he's probably has good info. since i repect your opinion SCGATOR2001. I respect any non Gov. researcher who's hones.
sargoth37 1 year ago
roflmao nuff said Fetzger quack wacko, lifton lying piece of shit who only makes up fake shit to make money with his lies. respect lifton? hell no he's as stupid as you are. take a guess - how many people do you figure were in dealy that day
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
SCGATOR2001,
Fetzger is one of the best I've seen. And any of the guys Clifton or the other Gov. Flunky say are no good, have to be excellent, cause these guys are as brainwashed and retarded as they come, as we all know by now.
sargoth37 1 year ago
They just happen to leave out some of the most important perps, like LBJ, Hoover, Dullis, secret service, etc.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Jackass, there are some things that can be matched obviously. We're talking about the things that can't be seen on that side OF THE STREET IDIOT. CAN'T YOU GRASP THE CONCEPT. THOSE OTHER FILMS DON'T SHOW THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIS HEAD.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Clifton you ignorant slut! I soo enjoy ripping you new asshole after asshole. Your super collossal ego makes it that much more fun to squash like a bug.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Clifton you ignorant slut. As usual, you twist my words to suit your rediculous ideas. Mooreman remembered it from day one idiot. Just another fact you can't accept cause like a spoiled child you can't admit when you're wrong.
sargoth37 1 year ago
No you're just a pimply faced jerk off wanna be with delusions of grandeur. You have no sources except the hsca, the Gov. the perpetrators who have a vested interest in keeping this and all their other scams like 911 the Federal Reserve etc. going forever.
sargoth37 1 year ago
How can the other films show all the details when they were on the wrong side of the street from Z. film? We aren't talking big obvious things. We are talking small details that happen in a second or two.
Now you admit it's altered but it's Jim Garrison's fault. You really are a complete mental retard.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Read the article I sent, it explains all about the Z.film. He was bought off. It was altered from the very beginning. Mostly sanitizing the head shot, making the sign to tall to block the limo etc. I should have known it was over your head. You just don't have the mental capacity to grasp these things.
sargoth37 1 year ago
If you want the testimonies of people who saw a missile come out from JFK's sheets when they were unloading him from the casket to a gurney, you will simply have to read a book, like this. I am sure there is something in there as well on a doctor's view on the bullet in JFK's chest cavity.
Killing the Truth: Deceit and Deception in the JFK Case
curtjester1 1 year ago
If you look at another of my videos you'll see that the FBI agent at the autopsy said when the doctor probed the back wound he said NO POINT OF EXIT (with both his hand and an instrument).
Specter & others turned this into an exit from JFK's throat, something that is ridiculous and laughable.
Look at my video THE BIG LIE and you'll see that the DISC Channel showed the bullet would have exited JFK's CHEST, not his throat which shows the single bullet did not happen, that shows conspiracy.
SCGATOR2001 1 year ago
First you need to verify they actually saw it the first day, and identify them! You can't. Homer McMahon who worked for the CIA at NPIC received the film the night of the assassination and was told to produce 40 frames at key spots. Along with Dan Rather and his viewing of it over 10 times we know there were more shots, no interruption in the motorcade, and a dramatic shot to the head. McMahon testified before the HSCA.
curtjester1 1 year ago
Most people know the Gov. was involved LBJ, J.E.Hoover Allen Dullis etc.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls. Let me guess the hsca? It was given to the FBI, Secret Service and Z. sold his rights to Life mag. which many say was CIA.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Must you be a MORON 24/7? Copies were given by Zapruder to the FBI and Secret Service then he sold his to Life magazine who were supposedly CIA. I also heard H. Hunt got a copy.
sargoth37 1 year ago
How rediculous blaming J. Garrison for the Gov. alterations.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Yes you do, if you want to find anomalies, not seen by the eye. For instance, The woman Mooreman said when she took her famous shot, she had stepped off the curb into the street, but the Z. film shows her still on the grass. That's just one example. That's something you wouldn't notice. Try using some common sense for a change.
sargoth37 1 year ago
You can't even remember what I write in just a few hours.
sargoth37 1 year ago
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sargoth37 1 year ago
Exactly what is bullshit about them? Get specific. Why is 99% of theJFK info. on google and youtube anti-Gov.
sargoth37 1 year ago
how would you know it looked like he was hit with an ax with white? what is your laughable source? there is NO EVIDENCE OF THAT.
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
My eyes idiot. That's what the Z. film showed early on. 1975-1986 I don't know exactly when it was removed, but I think it was after 1986.
sargoth37 1 year ago
throat bullet removed? roflmao just put on a hat saying you are an idiot it would be no diff then saying there was a throat bullet THERE IS NO EVIDENCE A BULLET WAS REMOVED FROMT THE THROAT OMG THAT IIS STUPID BEYOND BELIEF!!
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
Name who analyzed it and when?
sargoth37 1 year ago
Clifton you ignorant slut! Oh so now anyone who glanced at it is an expert? You think you're an expert and you've seen it many times yet you can't get it right. That's because there are many versions out there. And you seem to have a learning disability.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I've said a hundred GOD DAMNED times. HE WAS DEAD, DEAD, DEAD before anyone had a chance to study the film and see the alterations you fucking retard. Can you prove he wasn't bought off or CIA.
sargoth37 1 year ago
A film on the right side like Z. shows the right side the others show the left side. What's your point?
sargoth37 1 year ago
Clifton you ignorant slut! Let try to explain some things so even your pea brain can understand. Some versions of the Z. film do show some slowing down of the carlike the one on the Geraldo video. Most others don't. Care to explain that? None of us know how much or if at all or when the film was altered before 1975 cause it was not available for study by researchers or the public. So they had 12 yrs. to do as they pleased with it. Showing it once to reporters proves nothing.
sargoth37 1 year ago
continued..... Since when do reporters qualify as photo analysis experts? If I showed you a film once, then 12 yrs. later ask you to recall every detail, it's highly unlikely you could do it. If I removed some frames which equaled 1-2 seconds or less, you would not be able to tell the difference. We are talking minute changes.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Continued ... Changes that could only be seen from the right side. The ones that were removed are ones that showed his scalp ripping away. Of course they may have removed a lot more, I don't believe the one first shown on Geraldo was completely original but I know they have been altering it since 1975.
sargoth37 1 year ago
What the hell are you talking about? Your question makes no sense. What do you mean inside knoll?
sargoth37 1 year ago
Clfton you ignorant slut! We knew no names would be forth coming. Check mate ASSWIPE. AS usual no evidence at all. All BULLSHIT. Showing the film once to a bunch of reporters proves nothing, then in court still doesn't prove much. You'd have to give the film to independant experts to study. Calling reporters experts, now that's rich. How dum can you get?
sargoth37 1 year ago
Bullshit. You can't see much brain or blood from the Z. film. It's been removed and sanitized. The earlier versions had much more spray. The point is, if the exit was in the front he would have had much more on him and the front and side of the car. The majority was to the rear, that's why jacky climbed out to retrieve some skull or brain matter. LBJ was destroying evidence.
sargoth37 1 year ago
You won't talk about the Altgens photo cause it's alterations are undeniable. Those films CAN'T show the EXACT things, MORON. They can show some things, but they can't show the head shot from the same angle, so if frames were missing you can't tell. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD AND DON'T REPEAT IT 10,000 times.
sargoth37 1 year ago
We are still waiting for those names and dates of your so-called experts. Those other films do NOT show the identical things Imbecile. They can't cause they were on the oposite side of the street retard. They can't show the head shot to the temple, oh I forgot you believe the headshot only came from the rear. Funny how those films don't show that. Wierd how all the brain matter and blood was all over the rear of the car.
sargoth37 1 year ago
If the shot only entered from the rear and exited from the front, wouldn't the blood and brain matter all go forward onto Connelly? Could that be why Johnson had Connely's cloths cleaned, and the car's rear end cleaned and then totaly rebuilt?
sargoth37 1 year ago
Clifton you ignorant slut! What experts would that be? Name them and what date did they get the film for study? And if so can you prove they wern't CIA? We will wait for your answer with baited breath.
sargoth37 1 year ago
So, all you have to do is get the 20 reporters who saw the film and get their take. Can't do it, can you? Again, those who did see the film saw and verified what they saw, and is different than what we see today, more known commonly as the Extant Film. I suggest if you want some experts on the subject, you read a good book. You can read the Great Zapruder Film Hoax online for free if you google it right.
CJ
CJ
curtjester1 1 year ago
Was the film given to any experts for study? If not then how is any critical analysis to be done? Explain it to us all. We are waiting. Dum baboon.
sargoth37 1 year ago
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sargoth37 1 year ago
And just how many were photgraphic experts? Was the film given to them for study? What did they have to compare it to? Do you see how dum your question is?
sargoth37 1 year ago
All that is irrelevant. The proof is on any Z. film videothey proove alterations. What about the Altgens photo? Do you deny it's altered yes or no kook. Explain how ruby's face or whoever it is is blotted out?
sargoth37 1 year ago
2 of those cops Harry Freeman and Stavis Ellis said there was a hole in it. They were right next to it. You don't know shit cause all you read is hsca info. The nurse said she leaned against the fender. So you are proved wrong again.
sargoth37 1 year ago
The only thing you own is a skull full of rocks. All you do is spew Gov. crap. No proof. I prooved you wrong with Weldon's videos and jfkLancer forum. There's dozens of Z. film alternation videos which make you look like the fool you are.
sargoth37 1 year ago
It wasn't alalysed until yrs. later IMBECILE after Zapruder was dead. Can't you read english jerk off. Would you be able to remember exact details of a film you saw once 12 yrs. prior? I doubt it. How hard would it be to it be for the Gov. to steal those 3 original versions and replace them with edited versions. Pull your retarded head out of the hsca's ass.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I just read up that the original z.films were given to the FBI, Secret Service, and Z. sold his to Life magazine which was supposed to be CIA. H. Hunt got a copy I heard. S
sargoth37 1 year ago
And just how would you prove someone isn't CIA? Answer the question.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I'm waiting. What's the matter, cat got your tongue? Can't anwer that can you?
sargoth37 1 year ago
I didn't say they were all CIA. I said you can't prove they weren't. Even if you could, it wouldn't make any difference. As I've said a hundred times. We don't know how much or if it was changed at all prior to 1975. The other films do not show his head being hit from the right angle. They were on the wrong side, cause he was hit in the right temple, but the Z. film had those frames taken out a long time ago, probably in the 1970s. I've seen earler versions.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I now believe it was altered as soon as the Gov. got their hands on it. Z. may have shown the original but it was replaced soon after and he was payed $100 grand as hush money. More extensive alterations were done after 1986. That's the last time I saw the version with the bizzarr scalp tearing frames on the Geraldo show.
sargoth37 1 year ago
No MORON. The CIA had infiltrated the US media starting in the 50s according to Operation Mockingbird. That doesn't mean every person, just upper management. Only an IDIOT like you would suggest those 4 films can be matched frame for frame. The other films are across the street and don't show the critical headshot. So explain how they can match? It does not show the limo slowing to almost a stop. First you said 20 now it's 70 people. Can you name them all?
sargoth37 1 year ago
You have not proved the windhield the hsca has is original. Doug Weldon's excellent video series details what happened to the limo. He has an audio tape of the man at the Ford plant who confirms the through and through hole in the windshield and that it was destroyed on pt. 8-9. He even shows where the shooter on the south knoll probably was.
sargoth37 1 year ago
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sargoth37 1 year ago
Clfton you ignorant slut! I read an article last night that explained the whole Z. film situation. He was bought off. It was altered from the very beginning at some top secret CIA lab in Rochester NY. I sent it to you . I suggest you read it and educate yourself. It's called JFKcountercoup The Zapruder Film Mystery 12/19/2009. Everyone google it.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Only an idiot like you would suggest that those films can be matched frame for frame. Missing frames of Z. film which would equal seconds of time can not be seen from the other side of the street.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Hey chucklehead, that guy was the man who performed the autopsy on Oswald, he sawed the top of his skull off but didn't see those marks on the exhumed skull. IMO the Skull & Bones society probably stole his head and replaced it with a fake. I'm sure he wasn't a liar.
sargoth37 1 year ago
3 cops who were right next to it said there was a hole.
sargoth37 1 year ago
As if that proves anything. God you're a retard.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Look you GOD Damned dyslexic imbecile. I've told you many times, They may have been shown the original in 1963. It wasn't shown to the public until 1975. 5 yrs. after Zapruder was dead. Critical analysis and arguments hadn't begun yet idiot. So your argument makes no sense. Those films can't be matched to each other. How can you compare them when they are on different sides of the street. Your assinine reasoning shows how rediculous you are.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Some things can be matched but crucial stuff like the head shot to the temple can't be seen on those other films. It has nothing to do with Jacky on the trunk. So stop repeating rediculous things.
sargoth37 1 year ago
I'ts not in the TMWKK stupid ass, it's on Doug Weldon's video.
sargoth37 1 year ago
Explain to us all why the car stopping isn't in the Z. film, or how people move faster than possible? Hmmm
sargoth37 1 year ago