@31state Oh please.... my eyes nearly popped out my head, somebody puts this Netrebko before legends such as Caballe and Callas!!!! Crazy taste or what?...
@31state Hmmm well speaking as somebody born after the great Callas died, I know who I prefer.... Callas transcends generation. How lucky are the people who saw Callas, I was not blessed enough. You can keep Netrebko, thanks.
@31state Dream on...... Oh and we have your delusional comments in contrast :)
I did see her live once, would certainly not bother again. If you want to name a current artist who is anywhere near to Callas ( though still a distance behind) I personally would go for great Angela Gheorghiu. By the way you should research how Netrebko has praised Callas in a BBC documentary :), perhaps you know better than Netrebko ha ha ha
@romaitalia29 Umm, you are saying that my comments are delusional. That's interesting. Just read your posts about you admiring and idolizing Callas from the past (you did not even hear her live). And you are saying that *my* comments are delusional. How is that?
@romaitalia29 If you admit that you "idolise Callas" then this conversation loses any sense, since idolization is irrational by definition.
I do not see anything wrong with idolizing people or things (that is one's own internal business). However it has nothing to do with a rational conversation we could have otherwise. Please keep idolizing, I am not going to bother arguing with idols sitting in your mind.
@31state Quite right, do not need to ask me to idolise Callas, it comes quite naturally. Why is idolisation irrational by definition? Says who? You..... ha ha
@romaitalia29 All I can say if it weren't for Jackie Evancho, there wouldn't be anyone mention, now!! there are more people than ever in history taking to crossover sing sinse Jackie came along! we all search to see how other people sound I found quite a few I will listen to, but people like you will turn me against your favorite, sorry! even try Haley Westener,, Sarah Brightman,Fiona Mariah, also there is another 10 year old that is coming up if you want her name, that is easely done!
@dziady1 How Could You put Maria Callas to a Level? Are you a Normal, you are such sad person that have No Clue, that compare anyone to Maria Callas I hope God Forgive you for such Thoughts.
One of Anna's better performances of this. Some of the critics can be very hard on Anna, but the same was true of Maria Callas in her day. For this particular piece, I prefer Anna Netrebko's voice over Callas', whereas Anna struggles with Casta Diva, and Callas mastered it. Everyone has their own opinions. I am a big fan of Ms. Netrebko's. She knows how get a crowd to respond.
Montserrat Caballé does this better than any one, past or present. These ladies have a ways to go before they could hold a candle to her greatness. Still it was petty though.
Is this a studio remix after the main event? If not, this must be the best she has done live. Last year it was poor and every later performance isn't closely as good as this.
I think she is as good as Callas, but it is hard to judge exactly because of the low quality sound reproduction from 40+ years ago. I think that it is important to remember that the world belongs to the living; the living are the ones who deserve your patronage.
@hvrtguys What a strange and weak argument, the greatest soprano ever remains the same, whether dead or alive, her name is Madame Maria Callas... her legacy will never ever die!
Personally I find it interesting she is about the only soprano with views in 2 or 3 million eg casta diva, ave maria yet her heyday was about 50 years before youtube generation...... says a lot really, this is coming from somebody born years after she died....
@romaitalia29 I don't know, I wouldn't place Callas as the soprano to end all sopranos. Don't get me wrong, I adore her. Her artistry is absolutely incredible, and by all reports she was an actress of the finest quality, but the voice itself is a little chesty for a soprano. In contrast, Tebaldi couldn't act to save her life, and her interpretations were not as strong, but the voice was clearer and sweeter. I don't know, that may be a matter of personal preference on my part.
@AceofGallifrey Well I certainly would place Callas as the soprano the end all sopranos thus far. Callas' voice was unique, it sounded different but every genius is different. Sopranos like Netrebko are easy on the ears but you can find such performers anywhere, lacking passion if you ask me, particularly if you understand the context of this aria.
@romaitalia29 Oh certainly Callas had passion and was an absolute master of her art, but I just don't like the voice itself very much. She sings like a contralto (which I suppose makes sense given the early history of her study) rather than a soprano. I've gone through her discography, studying her style, and while as an artist and as a musician she is unparalleled... well the voice is placed so heavily in the chest and throat! Unique, but iffy technique and undoubtedly hard on the instrument.
@AceofGallifrey That is your choice, I have supreme confidence it is a minority view however. If one wanted a sugary sweet voice, one could listen to Disney soundtracks. If this aria is meant to demonstrate youthful optimism of a young lady pleading to her father to marry her sweetheart, then in Netrebko's version it must already be a lost cause :) To assert La Callas had an 'iffy technique' is absurd to put it mildly, there is a reason her legacy lives on generations after her heyday.
@romaitalia29 Well, I suppose everyone must have different tastes. I do love Callas' artistry but the placement thing bugs me (perhaps because it is something I struggle with myself as a performer?) and I therefore tend to prefer someone with a more beautiful instrument whose musicality and interpretation are of a lesser caliber. I've never been one for canary fancying, and try to avoid putting any one musician as the "be all and end all" and instead appreciate the good rather than the flaws.
@AceofGallifrey They say 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder', for me there is nothing more beautiful than real passion and conviction in what you are actually singing, sugary sweet sopranos are as common as snow flakes in Alaska, yet there will only ever be one Callas... just the fact we are discussing her 60 years after her heyday says it all.
@romaitalia29 There's no question that Callas was something incredibly special. I just don't like the practice of putting any one singer on a pedestal. I can't speak for all opera singers, obviously (especially so very early in my career), but those of my peers I've discussed the issue with find it in bad taste. We aspire to be like Callas/Caruso/Krause/Horne/whomever, but endless comparisons to those immortalized greats never serve any art form well.
@AceofGallifrey I agree with almost everything you stated, except I have not compared the great Callas to anybody, there is nobody even close... whether you agree or not, it is certainly my opinion. I was never a great opera fan until recently, I heard Callas and felt my heart explode with emotion - she reduced this grown man to tears with her Casta Diva. I have never had this experience before despite listening to soprano after soprano thereafter. Callas and Greek goddess come to my mind.
@romaitalia29 Well, that is what La Divina was- IS- known for, particularly with that specific aria. She really is something else, but the fact is, not every singer is suited to every role. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on this subject, as while I turn to Callas for interpretive inspiration, I find her better suited to roles such as Norma or Salome rather than an ingenue such as Lauretta, a role for which Netrebko or Te Kanawa would probably be better suited vocally.
@romaitalia29 I adore Callas, but number of views doesn't mean much: tv talent show contestants get a lot more views than true artists. Callas' artistry was amazing, as a child I used to listen to records of operas with her, and I felt the suffering of her heroines. In terms of this aria - you need to keep in mind that 1. it's a teenager singing and 2. it's a comic opera, so the girl may be playing her daddy. At any rate, no recording however perfect will replace live opera experience.
@jewelmarkess Well that is your opinion, I personally would prefer to listen to a recording of Callas than listen to any live current artist ( who I do go to see incidentally), with inferior recording technology the passion of La Callas leaps out and makes the heart tremble. Listening to Netrebko's version, I personally feel nothing. We all have our opinions I guess.
@romaitalia29 One doesn't argue with opinions. I like both - listening to old recordings and go to opera and see current singers. But one doesn't argue about tastes, your view is just as valid as mine.
@jewelmarkess Haven't you just stated the same thing I did with different words?! Oh well English is not my language ha ha By way, Maria Callas reigns supreme, just my opinion!! :)
@romaitalia29 Yes, you are right, and your English is fine. E' Italiana Lei? LOL. I don't think anybody is close to Callas in the level of expressiveness. When I was a teenager I used to listen to her records of full operas while following the libretto. I did it so many times, I remembered the words. Her portrayal of tragic heroines. made me cry, I really felt for the heroines. Norma's "Deh non volerli vittime" made me really believe this was a mother asking to spare her children.
I think she is as good as Callas, but it is hard to judge exactly because of the low quality sound reproduction from 40+ years ago. I think that it is important to remember that the world belongs to the living; the living are the ones who deserve your patronage.
I like her, because she has quality, but somehow, everytime when it comes to this numera, which ows to be one of my favourite arias I simply cant give her the credit of doing it that right, cause I comapare it to the interpretation of Maria Calla, maybe its ridiculous, but I dont feel that much emotions by Anna, this Aria is sad and dramatic, and thats the way it should be interpretated, its lacking, but still well sung,,:D
i am a big abstract ,death metal ,black metal and experimental industrial music fan ,BUT listen to this Goddess, spur my mind into a smashing lovely trip in all the senses!!!!i wish that my future wife looks like Ana Netrebko ...and i shall rest in peace...for ever.You are an Angel Netrebko.
she is like the most beautiful russian woman i have ever seen! and what a voice!! i like her, saw her in an interview, very likeable, friendly and funny :)
Alert (open-eyed) to the legal representative or lawyer of Anna Netrebko. Leoperarm and Striker9410 have agreed to conspire against Anna Netrebko. This pair of bastards, whose mothers are cheap street whores, have
been committing a series of attacks, insults, denigrating the honor of Anna Netrebko and her son. These attacks have been directed at the person and honor of Anna and not its interpretation, professional qualities or defects.
the Trial Court in New England and the U.S. against this pair of ladybugs and miserable mercenaries paid to attack the women singers. Serious injury, defamation, personal attacks on a woman's honor, slander, and all kinds of insults to denigrate SINGER WOMAN WITH unspeakable ends.
Housewife Striker9410 disgusted with the family cat, and decided to get rid of him. He drove the feline 20 blocks from home and left him. But when he pulled into his driveway, there was the cat. The next day he left the kitty 40 blocks away, but again, the cat beat him home. So he took the cat on a long drive, arbitrarily turning left, then right, making U-turns, anything to throw off the tabby´s keen
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
A lot of people dis-like Netrebko. She gets a lot of attention from her looks, but there is something about her, that many people don't like. I think she's a phony, big-shot.
striker9410, is a psycho from prison, he has all the time in the world and this pervert gets pleasure by bashing the great soprano Anna Netrebko. He is a real bastard who even talks dirty about a little boy Tiago Annas baby. This bastards previous username was thugman30/mntjamant.
striker9410, is a psycho from prison, he has all the time in the world and this pervert gets pleasure by bashing the great soprano Anna Netrebko. He is a real bastard who even talks dirty about a little boy Tiago Annas baby. This bastards previous username was thugman30/mntjamant.
Anna Netrebko is going to burn out!! She is on a roll right now, but she is going to come crashing down, in the near future. She is tarnishing true opera with her " dirt Patrol " and the critics will take their revenge on her, at some point. She asked for it, she's gonna' get it.
me? I think Callas was no bariton and no tranny. Her voice sounds dark, a little bit too dark for me, but she was really a soprano. Not as nice like Netrebko or Moffo or Schwarzkopf or Fleming with Mozart, Puccini or Strauss but in belcanto she was perhaps La Divina.
Gandor, that is correct. Callas' timbre was dark (She herself described it as such) and her low notes were very powerful. It's also true that her timbre wasn't classically beautiful, but she was able of producing innocent and sweet moments despite that. (Sonnambula) And I also agree that here greatest achievements weren't in Puccini & Mozart, but Bel Canto.
Gandoredo, take FAT ANNIE back to Russia with you. There you can all be fat, and happy. Annushka eating Haagen Daas with her little piglet Tiagron, and you in the woods with your boy-toy Evgeny.
..........could it be? Striker9410, I don't believe you could be right! Folks, could it be, you think the same like Striker and allegedly millions opera fans if you hear Callas sing like a Mezzo? They think MC was SHEMALE! All along she would clinks like a TRANNY and at the last years her singing sounded more and more like a BARITON? If you would see her without horsehair they might look like a man. Indeed one can see a Adam's apple.
Annushka is getting " MASSACRED " by the critics, for her Traviata. poor girl, she is on her way down, and out. Her son Tolango eats too much Haagen Daas, and Anna eats too much also. Two little piglets. Put a fork in Annushka, she is done.
Netrebko stinks like my onion/garlic combo shit! She is on her way out of opera. She has gotten fat, and ugly. She gets bad reviews now, and cancells a lot.
Anna is having big troubles lately. She cancelled the MET!!!! She got some bad reviews. She has gained weight. It's the mutant she had, Tiago Arua, it's ruining her nice body, and career. She is on a downward spiral. I think Elwin Schnott is
banging some yound broad behind Anna's back. Poor Anna, lot's of trouble, ruining her career.
Anna canceled the MET because they want her to make another modern version of La Traviata along the same line as her highly successful one made in Salzburg in 2005. It's no big deal as she prefer to conquer new horizon.
Thugman30/mtnmanjtbrain has no variety of thoughts, no depth and no trills. His brain activity is seriously underdeveloped - his brain vibrato is within a dynamic range of SCHIZOPHRENIA and is simply lacking the agility to pull it all off He has poor imagination, no precise control of emotions and poor diction. He is severely lacking the technical depth of Homo Sapience Right now he is sitting in Mozambique under a palm tree. He had fallen from it and broke his tail Or did he have it removed?
I think Anna is cute, but I don't like her. I saw an interview, and she's too full of herself. I bet she's got a nice ass, but I don't like her anymore. I don't think she's 'gonna make it over the long haul.
Popera yes, for a while she will make money. Classical opera, I don't think so, she does not have the professional training/experience. This is why these new wannabes were not named " The Greatest Soprano Of All Time ". That is Callas, and only Callas.
Wow, does she look hot in that picture, in the black, holy shit!! I don't know if I still want to bang her, now that some Uruguayan cigar-roller, knocked her up. Shit, I just don't know. Yeah, maybe I'd still bang her, but not marry her. I would tell Anna she sings better than Callas, only to bang her. Then I would go home and listen to LaDivina, The Great Maria Callas!!
Wow, Thugman is destroying you Netrebniks tonight. I personally think she's a good looking bitch, and would marry her tomorrow. I just don't like the way she opens her mouth so wide, and I think she's kind of phony. I just don't think
ANNA or anybody else, is as good as THE GREAT CALLAS.
eradesso, I suspect that finding others mistakes make you feel better, but this is pathetic, you spend your lonely time criticizing other musicians, while no one can ever criticize you because you never made it and nobody knows you - poor looser!
And, as I said before I visit many sopranos unlike you. You are obsessed with Nertrebko while I listen to dozens of sopranos from both past and present. I critique even sopranos I really love when they make mistakes in either repertoire or execution.
But what makes you frustrated is that you can't argue such technical things so you go on yapping about this paranoid plots of yours.
Anna is adored by hundreds of prominent musicians - James Levine and Sutherland, and thousands of opera lovers (not pop opera but opera lovers, she sings in the best opera houses (18 times MET next year) and it is impossible that only you and a few others are so refined and the rest of us are just stupid mainstream grouppies. You have no shame to insult a great talent who joined a roster of past nominees that includes Martha Argerich, Leonard Bernstein, Igor Stravinsky and Mstislav Rostropovich
leoperarm, read opera chic sometimes, she is also adored and respected by Domingo, Pavarotti and many other talented people, those who are not full of malicious envy as some of the MET's family less successful members apparently are
You have a mental disorder, please, worship Mrs. Netrebko yourself, do not EVEN mention Sutherland or Pavarotti (RIP), as they wouldn't have to say a single word about Netrebko, less DAME Joan Sutherland: the best Lucia di Lammermoor ever to be recorded and a person that would surely cry out of pain when listening to Netrebko screaming out a "High Eb" (which apparently you love) have a bit of dignity and stop worshipping a woman that goes to the bathroom and gets sick like everyone!
leoperarm , Here is an extract form the MET critic (from the MET family that you said have no regards for Anna as you have mentioned earlier ) - "I can see how some thoughtful people can fall in love with Anna: her instrument has a natural glow, a dark sheen, a texture that conveys joy in sorrow (and vice versa)--and when used well, there is magic. ...and later, about the mad scene in Lucia - see below
leoperam - "Netrebko was brilliant in this scene and the last act fully committed, solid in voice ... well .. Netrebko really rised to deserve her fame." (Sieglinde)
So I quess Anna can be a great Lucia after all. I now one can understand why Anna's Lucia was shown as "GREAT PERFORMANCES AT THE MET". On this same page you may find what he said about Dessay's Lucia. So, it is not true that only I worship Netrebko, because people around the world, people who can appeciate real talen do to.
leoperarm, this is for you from the MET family - from a MET critic who did critiques on both Lucias: (Sieglinde) - Dessay:
I say how meticulous every placed note, every action was; how well the text was served, how professional the phrases were, how world-class the grand musical performance just witnessed. But in the end, it comes down to an elementary question, of how much I really dug the underlying Natalie Dessay sound, and I can't say I really do.
I don't care who this person is and/or what he/she does, I don't care about his personal opinion (It will not make me lose my precious peace), Netrebko's publicity is OK she can't sing, but she's got some good management (good for her!) I didn't even mention Dessay here nor I think she is the best Lucia (there is not a Sieglinde that can take Sutherland's one down) If you have to use this person's opinion about Dessay in order to make Mrs. Netrebko a good singer, too bad (not for me) :-((
oh yes besides Dessay has left quite the trace in roles like Lakmé, Olympia, Queen of the Night, Morgana (Alcina), Zerbinetta and on but it's not like sorkin would know about that..
Same can't really be said about Netrebko who is too self-centred to pick the roles that are appropriate for her voice (Pamina, Micaela etc)
The problem is that sorkin has to use someone else's opinion to promote someone she doesn't even understand. Many people like her so she will too. Poser AND groupie.
eradesso, she graduated form St.Petresburg conservatory, the institution you will never be even accepted to I suspect. She has a strong foundation, a fabulous sound and a LOT of flexibility in her voice. Her voice actually became stronger and more flexible in time despite of all the terrible projections that she will completely loose it from narrow minded nitpickers like you (sorry to disappoint you).
I will never be accepted because I would never apply. If that is the technical outcome good god they are as selective with students as they are with professors.
Flexibility? Yes she's flexible for a LYRIC SOPRANO. That doesn't mean she's a coloratura.
But of course, you wouldn't know the difference even if someone smacked you in the face with a fach guide.
eradesso , you once sent me a bad review of Anna's Lucia, here is another one from a MET critic who did critiques on both Lucias: (Sieglinde) - Dessay:
I say how meticulous every placed note, every action was; how well the text was served, how professional the phrases were, how world-class the grand musical performance just witnessed. But in the end, it comes down to an elementary question, of how much I really dug the underlying Natalie Dessay sound, and I can't say I really do.
I can see how some thoughtful people can fall in love with Anna: her instrument has a natural glow, a dark sheen, a texture that conveys joy in sorrow (and vice versa)--and when used well, there is magic. And let me tell you, she inhabited this drab production much better than Natalie Dessay. Netrebko was brilliant in this scene and the last act, fully committed, solid in voice
Sorkin, again, you have no knowledge to form your own opinion.
Tell us how technically, stylistically and interpretatively Netrebko makes the awesome Amina, Lucia, Elvira, Gilda, Donna Anna, Zerlina, Marguerite etc you claim she is.
What you keep doing is obsessively trying to find someone else's review for a magazine, award or video so you can just copy and paste it all over youtube.
eradesso, Do not be ridiculous, if you and your friends dismiss the opinion of whole musical communities, the opinion of conductors of the best opera houses, and of every favorable critique of Annas performances which do not suit you dirty bashing goals, then how my humble opinion can help you to come to your senses?????
And that was actually you, who claimed that Netrebko got poor rewies and Dessay got great reviews. So, I suppose you will shut up now ??? at least for a while pleaaaaseee
The fact is that you have no informed opinion at all. just copy and paste that BS about the awards all over you tube is all you do.
I said many times that I DO believe she would make a great lyric soprano IF she sang those roles. BIG IF!
The world is full of idiots look how many gave good reviews of her Puritani, her Don Giovanni etc. Does that mean she was good in it? NOPE. Does a good review make her E flats on pitch? NOPE.
You shut up and realize she's a star but not a good opera singer.
Sorkin, god your ignorance is as vast as the Sahara.
Lucia di Lammermoor is a role intended for a dramatic coloratura soprano. Lyric coloratura sopranos will tackle it as well sometimes with very good outcome.
Still. the requirement is the COLORATURA.
It was written for Fanny Tacchinardi Persiani for whom Rosmonda d'Inghilterra and Pia de' Tolomei was also written and guess what kinda roles are those!!
and regarding the comment you just deleted which i can still read from the email preview you said OPERA IS NOT ABOUT SINGING.
Oh really?! Why do you think it is called BEL CANTO?!!!
You are so ignorant you're not worth my time but I love challenges. I'm sure you'll start picking up facts with time.
First part is OPERA IS ABOUT SINGING.
who cares about acting we've seen thousands renditions of Lucia, hands up hands down on the floor standing up how better can it get? But without the voice??
eradesso , This is so pathetic; you publish here what I deleted (because I thought it wasnt right)! How much lower can you go, dear psychologist?? What Ive been saying all along, is that opera is not about techniques, it is about art, get it you poor nitpicker? By the way do you suffer from OCD?
I'll have you know that crazy people called composers (Bellini, Donizetti, Verdi, Mozart, Handel, Vivaldi just to name a few) did this very weird thing as choosing certain notes, ornamenti, fioriture, picchiettature, portamenti, glissati, acciaccature, crescendi, diminuendi, messe di voce, staccati, pauses etc not because they didn't know what to do but to convey feelings of happiness, despair, drama etc. The main acting must be done WITH THE VOICE. If you can't do it the purpose is lost.
eradesso , READ my comments before answering them, moron !!! Also read what I sent to you friend leoperarm - some historical info about Lucia, bye nutpicker!!
Unfortunately, they weren't met. Bel canto singing has never been Netrebko's strong suit. At its best, her voice is a light but full soprano with a quality of rounded darkness that lends extra communicative weight to her limpid high notes. Monday night, after she wandered onstage -- even her fans appeared unsure it was her at first -- she sang with a voice that sounded thinner and paler: a column of sound that lacked a pedestal.
Netrebko simply lacked the vocal agility to pull it off. She stinted on much of the usual ornamentation and failed to hit the final high E-flat squarely. The applause that followed was surprisingly tepid for a scene that usually stops the show in its tracks.
And the fact you know as little of psychology as you do of music well darling it's somewhat reassuring.
And hey, acting is definitely an art when you perform Shakespeare in a theatre without the singing part. I'll break it to you again.. OPERA IS ABOUT SINGING and only after you get that part ticked comes the acting!
leoperarm , a liitle historical passage for you - In the past, Lucia di Lammermoore became almost a parody as a coloratura soprano's showpiece and sometimes a showstopper. The extraordinary vocal pyrotechnics were not a part of the original 1835 score, nor was the scene at first performed solely with a flute accompaniment. The mad scene does include coloratura passages, but these are not extravagant or ostentatious; they mirror Lucia's madness.
leoperarm, more for you Donizetti did not write ornamentation or roulades that would highlight only the voice: the music as written is essential to the drama and the display of Lucia's state of mind. All of the coloratura was composed originally to exploit the fine vocal gifts of the first Lucia, Fanny Tacchinardi-Persiani.
So, it was never a requirement and is still not and Netrebko is a great Lucia!!! Get it ?
I'll save you some time, Donizetti originally wrote the Mad Scene in the F Major key so the highest note was F natural.
Of course it's just the coloratura sopranos who do it to show off but the composer didn't expect them to sing an F?? Why did he wrote it? To humiliate your poor Netrebko about 180 years later???
Oh funny mentioning Mariella Devia does sing the original version. Uhm wait, she's just a show off coloratura soprano LOL
eradesso, oh my god, you really suffer from OCD! And you may pretend to be a great opera critic all you want, but you are the shittiest musician to ever grace this earth first and foremost because you have NO respect for any other art form but your own.
Again, you mistake this as a personal opinion but I'll break to you another very basic concept that you ignore: MUSIC BEFORE BEING AN ART IS A SCIENCE.
And there is not eradesso's way or netrebko's way of singing a High E Flat. There is only the scientifical way to do it.
You either do it or you don't. It's not me.
This would require me to explain about Hertz and such to you. Not the car rental company, the frequency of sound.
and since i'm the shitty musician and you're the great one, how comes you just insult me and you don't give me facts when you say you like Netrebko or hate Dessay?
Really my self-esteem is in danger when you talk to me like that... PFTTTTTTT
eradesso, So what, it still was a great performance. High notes should mean nothing without the whole contents. Netrebkos brilliance is in what she does with her instrument. It is very easy for someone with high notes to impress, even if the rest is not very interesting.
well, there we have MONTSERRAT CABALLÉ singing the original score beautifully, I know things before giving an opinion. You can feel the difference between Caballe's and Mrs. Netrebko's Lucia di LammermooR. You are giving me information I manage since I was 13 years old :)
Leoperarm, 1) I sent you this info because you said that coloratura was a requirement
2) so what if MONTSERRAT CABALLÉ was a beautiful Lucia time ago, Netrebkos brilliance is in what she does with her instrument ; also she is a great artist and no wonder her Lucia was considered as one of "The GREAT PERFORMANCES AT THE MET of 2009" - DEAL WITH IT. By the way, in her HD performance she was flawless.
The MET is all but great since the let go a real talented soprano like Ruth Ann Swenson and let in that wannabe to sing coloratura roles so we really wipe our butts with the awards and recognitions that have to do with the Met.
It has just become a casino that has to cash as much money as possible.
And i do recognize that Netrebko does draw a huge amount of people just like Bocelli.
eradesso, well at least the best opera houses and great conductors around the world are on my side. You may pretend to be a great opera critic all you want, but you are just another psychopath from you tube, that is all. The conversation is over.
Conversation never began darling because you know nothing of Opera at all you don't discuss things you expect people to agree with you based on hearsay rather than musical facts..
We have a bet going on anyway, in maximum 5 years she will be voiceless and from here to that date she will cancel most her performances.
eradesso , 05 August 2008 - from MET family critic - Sieglinde -
Natalie Dessay, in her continued progress towards greater artistry, still doesn't know what opera is about. But she's right about one thing: they ought not to come to her performances expecting to hear beautiful voices, because there won't be any of that beauty shit getting in the way of her art. -
Actually this is what I been saying all along, opera is not about techniques, it is about art, get it you, poor nitpicker?
Anna Netrebko, besides her fabulous voice (which you can not appreciate since you are trying hard to find and listen only to deficient clips on you tube and God forbid to listen a decent CD or just because you are deaf), has great musical culture,
eradesso , You may pretend to be a great opera critic all you want, but you are are the shittiest musician to ever grace this earth first and foremost because you have NO respect for any other art form but your own. You were already engaged in lots of discussions about Anna's technique and it is just going in circles with you because your hate is so strong as if Neterbko had killed your mother and nothing calms you down.
She looks like she could be a ballerina as well.
MultiKabocha 1 month ago
Just compared the performances of: Callas, Brightman, Netrebko and Caballe.
Netrebko is the winner, in my opinion. Why? To my taste, her voice is like powerful but soft waves of warm and deep water.
31state 1 month ago
@31state Oh please.... my eyes nearly popped out my head, somebody puts this Netrebko before legends such as Caballe and Callas!!!! Crazy taste or what?...
romaitalia29 1 month ago
@romaitalia29 There is a truth in your words: Caballe and Callas are legends from the oast. Netrebko is well and alive. Big time.
31state 1 month ago
@31state Hmmm well speaking as somebody born after the great Callas died, I know who I prefer.... Callas transcends generation. How lucky are the people who saw Callas, I was not blessed enough. You can keep Netrebko, thanks.
romaitalia29 1 month ago
@romaitalia29 Transcends generations... Well all we have is: recordings of Callas which we can compare with recordings of Netrebko.
Oh yeah, we also have your comments here. :)
Did you hear netrebko on a live concert?
We will see what people say about her in 50 years. I am sure there will be some who's talking about transcending generations.
31state 1 month ago
@31state Dream on...... Oh and we have your delusional comments in contrast :)
I did see her live once, would certainly not bother again. If you want to name a current artist who is anywhere near to Callas ( though still a distance behind) I personally would go for great Angela Gheorghiu. By the way you should research how Netrebko has praised Callas in a BBC documentary :), perhaps you know better than Netrebko ha ha ha
romaitalia29 1 month ago
@romaitalia29 Umm, you are saying that my comments are delusional. That's interesting. Just read your posts about you admiring and idolizing Callas from the past (you did not even hear her live). And you are saying that *my* comments are delusional. How is that?
31state 1 month ago
@31state Absolutely I admire and idolise Callas. As for why your comments are delusional I will not insult my intelligence by explaining.
romaitalia29 1 month ago
@romaitalia29 If you admit that you "idolise Callas" then this conversation loses any sense, since idolization is irrational by definition.
I do not see anything wrong with idolizing people or things (that is one's own internal business). However it has nothing to do with a rational conversation we could have otherwise. Please keep idolizing, I am not going to bother arguing with idols sitting in your mind.
31state 1 month ago
@31state Quite right, do not need to ask me to idolise Callas, it comes quite naturally. Why is idolisation irrational by definition? Says who? You..... ha ha
romaitalia29 1 month ago
@romaitalia29 what ??????
fjmor100 1 week ago
@fjmor100 what???? read the conversation thread, should be apparent.
romaitalia29 1 week ago
@romaitalia29 All I can say if it weren't for Jackie Evancho, there wouldn't be anyone mention, now!! there are more people than ever in history taking to crossover sing sinse Jackie came along! we all search to see how other people sound I found quite a few I will listen to, but people like you will turn me against your favorite, sorry! even try Haley Westener,, Sarah Brightman,Fiona Mariah, also there is another 10 year old that is coming up if you want her name, that is easely done!
fjmor100 1 week ago
@fjmor100 HA HA HA What a sense of humour!!!...
romaitalia29 3 days ago
Pointless , worse than Callas
dziady1 1 month ago
@dziady1 How Could You put Maria Callas to a Level? Are you a Normal, you are such sad person that have No Clue, that compare anyone to Maria Callas I hope God Forgive you for such Thoughts.
WingedBull6000BC 1 month ago
@WingedBull6000BC - - When is Callas saint day ?
dziady1 1 month ago
@dziady1 Everyday is Saint Callas day.
romaitalia29 1 month ago
@WingedBull6000BC Well said!
romaitalia29 1 month ago
NOTHING compared to Callas ! Callas voice is so alive and amazingly beautiful ! Divine !
Callas voice makes people cry...but this one ...just ok !
Ksanthipa 1 month ago
One of Anna's better performances of this. Some of the critics can be very hard on Anna, but the same was true of Maria Callas in her day. For this particular piece, I prefer Anna Netrebko's voice over Callas', whereas Anna struggles with Casta Diva, and Callas mastered it. Everyone has their own opinions. I am a big fan of Ms. Netrebko's. She knows how get a crowd to respond.
brabanthallen 1 month ago
Es war die Erkennungsarie von Maria Callas!!!!!
MultiZahl 2 months ago
she has such a beautiful voice.
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milenymama 3 months ago
the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thesubmissivewoman 3 months ago
Montserrat Caballé does this better than any one, past or present. These ladies have a ways to go before they could hold a candle to her greatness. Still it was petty though.
anubis1974 3 months ago
She things like a bird....
Lucor1202 3 months ago
Is this a studio remix after the main event? If not, this must be the best she has done live. Last year it was poor and every later performance isn't closely as good as this.
Idol2011no 4 months ago
wow come to my house anna!!! you know you wanna!!!!!!!!
ianpu2fan 5 months ago
I think she is as good as Callas, but it is hard to judge exactly because of the low quality sound reproduction from 40+ years ago. I think that it is important to remember that the world belongs to the living; the living are the ones who deserve your patronage.
hvrtguys 5 months ago
@hvrtguys What a strange and weak argument, the greatest soprano ever remains the same, whether dead or alive, her name is Madame Maria Callas... her legacy will never ever die!
Personally I find it interesting she is about the only soprano with views in 2 or 3 million eg casta diva, ave maria yet her heyday was about 50 years before youtube generation...... says a lot really, this is coming from somebody born years after she died....
!Viva La Divina!
romaitalia29 4 months ago
@romaitalia29 I don't know, I wouldn't place Callas as the soprano to end all sopranos. Don't get me wrong, I adore her. Her artistry is absolutely incredible, and by all reports she was an actress of the finest quality, but the voice itself is a little chesty for a soprano. In contrast, Tebaldi couldn't act to save her life, and her interpretations were not as strong, but the voice was clearer and sweeter. I don't know, that may be a matter of personal preference on my part.
AceofGallifrey 4 months ago
@AceofGallifrey Well I certainly would place Callas as the soprano the end all sopranos thus far. Callas' voice was unique, it sounded different but every genius is different. Sopranos like Netrebko are easy on the ears but you can find such performers anywhere, lacking passion if you ask me, particularly if you understand the context of this aria.
romaitalia29 3 months ago
@romaitalia29 Oh certainly Callas had passion and was an absolute master of her art, but I just don't like the voice itself very much. She sings like a contralto (which I suppose makes sense given the early history of her study) rather than a soprano. I've gone through her discography, studying her style, and while as an artist and as a musician she is unparalleled... well the voice is placed so heavily in the chest and throat! Unique, but iffy technique and undoubtedly hard on the instrument.
AceofGallifrey 3 months ago
@AceofGallifrey That is your choice, I have supreme confidence it is a minority view however. If one wanted a sugary sweet voice, one could listen to Disney soundtracks. If this aria is meant to demonstrate youthful optimism of a young lady pleading to her father to marry her sweetheart, then in Netrebko's version it must already be a lost cause :) To assert La Callas had an 'iffy technique' is absurd to put it mildly, there is a reason her legacy lives on generations after her heyday.
romaitalia29 3 months ago
@romaitalia29 Well, I suppose everyone must have different tastes. I do love Callas' artistry but the placement thing bugs me (perhaps because it is something I struggle with myself as a performer?) and I therefore tend to prefer someone with a more beautiful instrument whose musicality and interpretation are of a lesser caliber. I've never been one for canary fancying, and try to avoid putting any one musician as the "be all and end all" and instead appreciate the good rather than the flaws.
AceofGallifrey 3 months ago
@AceofGallifrey They say 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder', for me there is nothing more beautiful than real passion and conviction in what you are actually singing, sugary sweet sopranos are as common as snow flakes in Alaska, yet there will only ever be one Callas... just the fact we are discussing her 60 years after her heyday says it all.
Anyhow good luck in your career.
romaitalia29 3 months ago
@romaitalia29 There's no question that Callas was something incredibly special. I just don't like the practice of putting any one singer on a pedestal. I can't speak for all opera singers, obviously (especially so very early in my career), but those of my peers I've discussed the issue with find it in bad taste. We aspire to be like Callas/Caruso/Krause/Horne/whomever, but endless comparisons to those immortalized greats never serve any art form well.
Many thanks for your kind wishes!
AceofGallifrey 3 months ago
@AceofGallifrey I agree with almost everything you stated, except I have not compared the great Callas to anybody, there is nobody even close... whether you agree or not, it is certainly my opinion. I was never a great opera fan until recently, I heard Callas and felt my heart explode with emotion - she reduced this grown man to tears with her Casta Diva. I have never had this experience before despite listening to soprano after soprano thereafter. Callas and Greek goddess come to my mind.
romaitalia29 3 months ago
@romaitalia29 Well, that is what La Divina was- IS- known for, particularly with that specific aria. She really is something else, but the fact is, not every singer is suited to every role. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on this subject, as while I turn to Callas for interpretive inspiration, I find her better suited to roles such as Norma or Salome rather than an ingenue such as Lauretta, a role for which Netrebko or Te Kanawa would probably be better suited vocally.
AceofGallifrey 3 months ago
@AceofGallifrey Netrebko probably better???... hell no!!! Though Te Kanawa I can respect.
We definitely must agree to disagree.
Regards.
romaitalia29 3 months ago
@romaitalia29 I adore Callas, but number of views doesn't mean much: tv talent show contestants get a lot more views than true artists. Callas' artistry was amazing, as a child I used to listen to records of operas with her, and I felt the suffering of her heroines. In terms of this aria - you need to keep in mind that 1. it's a teenager singing and 2. it's a comic opera, so the girl may be playing her daddy. At any rate, no recording however perfect will replace live opera experience.
jewelmarkess 3 months ago
@jewelmarkess Well that is your opinion, I personally would prefer to listen to a recording of Callas than listen to any live current artist ( who I do go to see incidentally), with inferior recording technology the passion of La Callas leaps out and makes the heart tremble. Listening to Netrebko's version, I personally feel nothing. We all have our opinions I guess.
romaitalia29 2 months ago
@romaitalia29 One doesn't argue with opinions. I like both - listening to old recordings and go to opera and see current singers. But one doesn't argue about tastes, your view is just as valid as mine.
jewelmarkess 2 months ago
@jewelmarkess Haven't you just stated the same thing I did with different words?! Oh well English is not my language ha ha By way, Maria Callas reigns supreme, just my opinion!! :)
romaitalia29 2 months ago
@romaitalia29 Yes, you are right, and your English is fine. E' Italiana Lei? LOL. I don't think anybody is close to Callas in the level of expressiveness. When I was a teenager I used to listen to her records of full operas while following the libretto. I did it so many times, I remembered the words. Her portrayal of tragic heroines. made me cry, I really felt for the heroines. Norma's "Deh non volerli vittime" made me really believe this was a mother asking to spare her children.
jewelmarkess 2 months ago
I think she is as good as Callas, but it is hard to judge exactly because of the low quality sound reproduction from 40+ years ago. I think that it is important to remember that the world belongs to the living; the living are the ones who deserve your patronage.
hvrtguys 5 months ago
my favorite opera/classical singer after I heard her version of Sempre Libera that made me wanna do opera instead of pop.
lazytown222 6 months ago
wonderfull, exelent voice and beautyfull girl.
malagarcha 1 year ago
I like her, because she has quality, but somehow, everytime when it comes to this numera, which ows to be one of my favourite arias I simply cant give her the credit of doing it that right, cause I comapare it to the interpretation of Maria Calla, maybe its ridiculous, but I dont feel that much emotions by Anna, this Aria is sad and dramatic, and thats the way it should be interpretated, its lacking, but still well sung,,:D
heraclo12 1 year ago
I can't find Habenera sung by her....and I am curious to see if she is that magical in it too..
idonperg 1 year ago
@idonperg That would be interesting to hear but I think she sang Micaela's aria instead of Habanera.
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i am a big abstract ,death metal ,black metal and experimental industrial music fan ,BUT listen to this Goddess, spur my mind into a smashing lovely trip in all the senses!!!!i wish that my future wife looks like Ana Netrebko ...and i shall rest in peace...for ever.You are an Angel Netrebko.
marlowecraft 1 year ago
ADORABLE ...her voice made me cry...
StarlightzPlace 1 year ago
she is like the most beautiful russian woman i have ever seen! and what a voice!! i like her, saw her in an interview, very likeable, friendly and funny :)
fortissimo25 1 year ago
....Simplemente hermoso...
SinfoniaNazi 1 year ago
Amazing, fabulous voice - such a treat to listen!
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Royhorse1 2 years ago
have you noticed how ridiculous and childisj you are? I myself in right to call you retard. Get a life.
leoperarm 2 years ago
been committing a series of attacks, insults, denigrating the honor of Anna Netrebko and her son. These attacks have been directed at the person and honor of Anna and not its interpretation, professional qualities or defects.
The way is open to file Lawsuits against
Royhorse1 2 years ago
the Trial Court in New England and the U.S. against this pair of ladybugs and miserable mercenaries paid to attack the women singers. Serious injury, defamation, personal attacks on a woman's honor, slander, and all kinds of insults to denigrate SINGER WOMAN WITH unspeakable ends.
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Royhorse1 2 years ago
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Royhorse1 2 years ago
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Traviata - Ms. Netrebko displayed ample power, coloratura bravura with a marvelous tone Having recently heard Natalie Dessay sing Sempre Libera at the Met Gala, one was impressed by the legato nature of Netrebko's portray in contrast to Dessay's intentional staccato, fragmented phrasing interpretation. Having also seen photos of Fleming in her current Violetta at the ROH, one can only marvel at Netrebko's resilience, endurance and commitment to bel canto opera.
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hydrogenix39 2 years ago
I would have to say she is the best in this. She nails all her arias.
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444mariam 2 years ago
A lot of people dis-like Netrebko. She gets a lot of attention from her looks, but there is something about her, that many people don't like. I think she's a phony, big-shot.
striker9410 2 years ago
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striker9410, is a psycho from prison, he has all the time in the world and this pervert gets pleasure by bashing the great soprano Anna Netrebko. He is a real bastard who even talks dirty about a little boy Tiago Annas baby. This bastards previous username was thugman30/mntjamant.
09avenger 2 years ago
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striker9410, is a psycho from prison, he has all the time in the world and this pervert gets pleasure by bashing the great soprano Anna Netrebko. He is a real bastard who even talks dirty about a little boy Tiago Annas baby. This bastards previous username was thugman30/mntjamant.
09avenger 2 years ago
Anna Netrebko is going to burn out!! She is on a roll right now, but she is going to come crashing down, in the near future. She is tarnishing true opera with her " dirt Patrol " and the critics will take their revenge on her, at some point. She asked for it, she's gonna' get it.
striker9410 2 years ago
Netrebko is the best soprano of the decade! Washington post
09avenger 2 years ago
me? I think Callas was no bariton and no tranny. Her voice sounds dark, a little bit too dark for me, but she was really a soprano. Not as nice like Netrebko or Moffo or Schwarzkopf or Fleming with Mozart, Puccini or Strauss but in belcanto she was perhaps La Divina.
I don't mean the last 15 years in her career.
gandor1337 2 years ago
Gandor, that is correct. Callas' timbre was dark (She herself described it as such) and her low notes were very powerful. It's also true that her timbre wasn't classically beautiful, but she was able of producing innocent and sweet moments despite that. (Sonnambula) And I also agree that here greatest achievements weren't in Puccini & Mozart, but Bel Canto.
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Gandoredo, take FAT ANNIE back to Russia with you. There you can all be fat, and happy. Annushka eating Haagen Daas with her little piglet Tiagron, and you in the woods with your boy-toy Evgeny.
striker9410 2 years ago
@striker9410
It's time to renew your argumentation ....... it is bored with the YouTube community. Ask me if you need good ideas.
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gandor1337 2 years ago
and what about you?
leoperarm 2 years ago
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Striker, what's happen? I bet, in real live you're also a loser like here on YT.
Do you have no musical arguments to answer opera experts?
Do you know only one sentence? That's not enough!
You've said, you're a wild Kodiak........ we think you're only a little cuddly toy like a teddy bear.
Wake up woodman, you better creep back in your cave and make no fool of oneself, otherwise we massacre you with your own chainsaw.
gandor1337 2 years ago
actually, he is right.
leoperarm 2 years ago
Annushka is getting " MASSACRED " by the critics, for her Traviata. poor girl, she is on her way down, and out. Her son Tolango eats too much Haagen Daas, and Anna eats too much also. Two little piglets. Put a fork in Annushka, she is done.
striker9410 2 years ago
As a dancer... I'd kill to have the arch she has in her foot.
AnnaCullen122 2 years ago
Netrebko stinks like my onion/garlic combo shit! She is on her way out of opera. She has gotten fat, and ugly. She gets bad reviews now, and cancells a lot.
striker9410 2 years ago
Transilvania, I'm not sick, maybe you are!
Just because I want to stuff my hard turds into Filaredo's mouth, doesn't make me sick. Some people are like mad dogs, and need to be treated as such.
striker9410 2 years ago
striker9410! I've said already, that you're sick and there is nothing more to add. Cease to pollute public spaces with your sick thoughts!
trisvirilaiva 2 years ago
FILAREDO brings badness to Annushka. As punishment for his words against La Divina Callas, we must rub shit in his face, and cum on Anna's face.
striker9410 2 years ago
Brava! She is the best! The tickets to her concert were sold in 14 minutes! I cannot wait to see her at the MET this December.
09avenger 2 years ago
Anna is having big troubles lately. She cancelled the MET!!!! She got some bad reviews. She has gained weight. It's the mutant she had, Tiago Arua, it's ruining her nice body, and career. She is on a downward spiral. I think Elwin Schnott is
banging some yound broad behind Anna's back. Poor Anna, lot's of trouble, ruining her career.
striker9410 2 years ago
Anna canceled the MET because they want her to make another modern version of La Traviata along the same line as her highly successful one made in Salzburg in 2005. It's no big deal as she prefer to conquer new horizon.
calbk 2 years ago
Where did you get the idea she canceled the Met ? I can't find anything of the sort . Please enlighten.
IC2720 2 years ago
Anna needs to get butt-fucked.
striker9410 2 years ago
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Thugman30/mtnmanjtbrain has no variety of thoughts, no depth and no trills. His brain activity is seriously underdeveloped - his brain vibrato is within a dynamic range of SCHIZOPHRENIA and is simply lacking the agility to pull it all off He has poor imagination, no precise control of emotions and poor diction. He is severely lacking the technical depth of Homo Sapience Right now he is sitting in Mozambique under a palm tree. He had fallen from it and broke his tail Or did he have it removed?
sorkin77 2 years ago
I think Anna is cute, but I don't like her. I saw an interview, and she's too full of herself. I bet she's got a nice ass, but I don't like her anymore. I don't think she's 'gonna make it over the long haul.
Popera yes, for a while she will make money. Classical opera, I don't think so, she does not have the professional training/experience. This is why these new wannabes were not named " The Greatest Soprano Of All Time ". That is Callas, and only Callas.
mtnmanjt 2 years ago
Wow, does she look hot in that picture, in the black, holy shit!! I don't know if I still want to bang her, now that some Uruguayan cigar-roller, knocked her up. Shit, I just don't know. Yeah, maybe I'd still bang her, but not marry her. I would tell Anna she sings better than Callas, only to bang her. Then I would go home and listen to LaDivina, The Great Maria Callas!!
mtnmanjt 2 years ago
Wow, Thugman is destroying you Netrebniks tonight. I personally think she's a good looking bitch, and would marry her tomorrow. I just don't like the way she opens her mouth so wide, and I think she's kind of phony. I just don't think
ANNA or anybody else, is as good as THE GREAT CALLAS.
mtnmanjt 2 years ago
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eradesso, I suspect that finding others mistakes make you feel better, but this is pathetic, you spend your lonely time criticizing other musicians, while no one can ever criticize you because you never made it and nobody knows you - poor looser!
sorkin777 2 years ago
And, as I said before I visit many sopranos unlike you. You are obsessed with Nertrebko while I listen to dozens of sopranos from both past and present. I critique even sopranos I really love when they make mistakes in either repertoire or execution.
But what makes you frustrated is that you can't argue such technical things so you go on yapping about this paranoid plots of yours.
Get on Lithium woman!
eradesso 2 years ago
Anna is adored by hundreds of prominent musicians - James Levine and Sutherland, and thousands of opera lovers (not pop opera but opera lovers, she sings in the best opera houses (18 times MET next year) and it is impossible that only you and a few others are so refined and the rest of us are just stupid mainstream grouppies. You have no shame to insult a great talent who joined a roster of past nominees that includes Martha Argerich, Leonard Bernstein, Igor Stravinsky and Mstislav Rostropovich
sorkin777 2 years ago
Where and when has Joan Sutherland mentioned Anna Netrebko as a musically positive person? May I ask...
leoperarm 2 years ago
leoperarm, read opera chic sometimes, she is also adored and respected by Domingo, Pavarotti and many other talented people, those who are not full of malicious envy as some of the MET's family less successful members apparently are
sorkin777 2 years ago
You have a mental disorder, please, worship Mrs. Netrebko yourself, do not EVEN mention Sutherland or Pavarotti (RIP), as they wouldn't have to say a single word about Netrebko, less DAME Joan Sutherland: the best Lucia di Lammermoor ever to be recorded and a person that would surely cry out of pain when listening to Netrebko screaming out a "High Eb" (which apparently you love) have a bit of dignity and stop worshipping a woman that goes to the bathroom and gets sick like everyone!
leoperarm 2 years ago
leoperarm , Here is an extract form the MET critic (from the MET family that you said have no regards for Anna as you have mentioned earlier ) - "I can see how some thoughtful people can fall in love with Anna: her instrument has a natural glow, a dark sheen, a texture that conveys joy in sorrow (and vice versa)--and when used well, there is magic. ...and later, about the mad scene in Lucia - see below
sorkin777 2 years ago
leoperam - "Netrebko was brilliant in this scene and the last act fully committed, solid in voice ... well .. Netrebko really rised to deserve her fame." (Sieglinde)
So I quess Anna can be a great Lucia after all. I now one can understand why Anna's Lucia was shown as "GREAT PERFORMANCES AT THE MET". On this same page you may find what he said about Dessay's Lucia. So, it is not true that only I worship Netrebko, because people around the world, people who can appeciate real talen do to.
sorkin777 2 years ago
leoperarm, this is for you from the MET family - from a MET critic who did critiques on both Lucias: (Sieglinde) - Dessay:
I say how meticulous every placed note, every action was; how well the text was served, how professional the phrases were, how world-class the grand musical performance just witnessed. But in the end, it comes down to an elementary question, of how much I really dug the underlying Natalie Dessay sound, and I can't say I really do.
sorkin777 2 years ago
I don't care who this person is and/or what he/she does, I don't care about his personal opinion (It will not make me lose my precious peace), Netrebko's publicity is OK she can't sing, but she's got some good management (good for her!) I didn't even mention Dessay here nor I think she is the best Lucia (there is not a Sieglinde that can take Sutherland's one down) If you have to use this person's opinion about Dessay in order to make Mrs. Netrebko a good singer, too bad (not for me) :-((
leoperarm 2 years ago
oh yes besides Dessay has left quite the trace in roles like Lakmé, Olympia, Queen of the Night, Morgana (Alcina), Zerbinetta and on but it's not like sorkin would know about that..
Same can't really be said about Netrebko who is too self-centred to pick the roles that are appropriate for her voice (Pamina, Micaela etc)
The problem is that sorkin has to use someone else's opinion to promote someone she doesn't even understand. Many people like her so she will too. Poser AND groupie.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, she graduated form St.Petresburg conservatory, the institution you will never be even accepted to I suspect. She has a strong foundation, a fabulous sound and a LOT of flexibility in her voice. Her voice actually became stronger and more flexible in time despite of all the terrible projections that she will completely loose it from narrow minded nitpickers like you (sorry to disappoint you).
sorkin777 2 years ago
I will never be accepted because I would never apply. If that is the technical outcome good god they are as selective with students as they are with professors.
Flexibility? Yes she's flexible for a LYRIC SOPRANO. That doesn't mean she's a coloratura.
But of course, you wouldn't know the difference even if someone smacked you in the face with a fach guide.
eradesso 2 years ago
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sorkin777 2 years ago
eradesso , you once sent me a bad review of Anna's Lucia, here is another one from a MET critic who did critiques on both Lucias: (Sieglinde) - Dessay:
I say how meticulous every placed note, every action was; how well the text was served, how professional the phrases were, how world-class the grand musical performance just witnessed. But in the end, it comes down to an elementary question, of how much I really dug the underlying Natalie Dessay sound, and I can't say I really do.
sorkin777 2 years ago
eradesso, here you go - Netrebko - Met critic:
I can see how some thoughtful people can fall in love with Anna: her instrument has a natural glow, a dark sheen, a texture that conveys joy in sorrow (and vice versa)--and when used well, there is magic. And let me tell you, she inhabited this drab production much better than Natalie Dessay. Netrebko was brilliant in this scene and the last act, fully committed, solid in voice
Bye nutpicker!
sorkin777 2 years ago
Sorkin, again, you have no knowledge to form your own opinion.
Tell us how technically, stylistically and interpretatively Netrebko makes the awesome Amina, Lucia, Elvira, Gilda, Donna Anna, Zerlina, Marguerite etc you claim she is.
What you keep doing is obsessively trying to find someone else's review for a magazine, award or video so you can just copy and paste it all over youtube.
And I would be the psychopath?? lol
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, Do not be ridiculous, if you and your friends dismiss the opinion of whole musical communities, the opinion of conductors of the best opera houses, and of every favorable critique of Annas performances which do not suit you dirty bashing goals, then how my humble opinion can help you to come to your senses?????
And that was actually you, who claimed that Netrebko got poor rewies and Dessay got great reviews. So, I suppose you will shut up now ??? at least for a while pleaaaaseee
sorkin777 2 years ago
The fact is that you have no informed opinion at all. just copy and paste that BS about the awards all over you tube is all you do.
I said many times that I DO believe she would make a great lyric soprano IF she sang those roles. BIG IF!
The world is full of idiots look how many gave good reviews of her Puritani, her Don Giovanni etc. Does that mean she was good in it? NOPE. Does a good review make her E flats on pitch? NOPE.
You shut up and realize she's a star but not a good opera singer.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, and since when Lucia is not a lyric opera???
sorkin777 2 years ago
Sorkin, god your ignorance is as vast as the Sahara.
Lucia di Lammermoor is a role intended for a dramatic coloratura soprano. Lyric coloratura sopranos will tackle it as well sometimes with very good outcome.
Still. the requirement is the COLORATURA.
It was written for Fanny Tacchinardi Persiani for whom Rosmonda d'Inghilterra and Pia de' Tolomei was also written and guess what kinda roles are those!!
eradesso 2 years ago
and regarding the comment you just deleted which i can still read from the email preview you said OPERA IS NOT ABOUT SINGING.
Oh really?! Why do you think it is called BEL CANTO?!!!
You are so ignorant you're not worth my time but I love challenges. I'm sure you'll start picking up facts with time.
First part is OPERA IS ABOUT SINGING.
who cares about acting we've seen thousands renditions of Lucia, hands up hands down on the floor standing up how better can it get? But without the voice??
eradesso 2 years ago
though I am 100% sure you have NO CLUE as to what opera SIEGLINDE even belongs to, what is that review referring to?
Where did I say I like Dessay's Lucia?
I can find you where I said it is a pity her instrument is "gone" and that I don't quite like her "new voice" so stop being childish already.
Again, go steal some reviews about my real favourite MARIELLA DEVIA if your intention is trying to hurt me like a 5yo kid.
Unlike you I base my opinion on my own knowlegde not one someone else's.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso , This is so pathetic; you publish here what I deleted (because I thought it wasnt right)! How much lower can you go, dear psychologist?? What Ive been saying all along, is that opera is not about techniques, it is about art, get it you poor nitpicker? By the way do you suffer from OCD?
sorkin777 2 years ago
I'll have you know that crazy people called composers (Bellini, Donizetti, Verdi, Mozart, Handel, Vivaldi just to name a few) did this very weird thing as choosing certain notes, ornamenti, fioriture, picchiettature, portamenti, glissati, acciaccature, crescendi, diminuendi, messe di voce, staccati, pauses etc not because they didn't know what to do but to convey feelings of happiness, despair, drama etc. The main acting must be done WITH THE VOICE. If you can't do it the purpose is lost.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso , READ my comments before answering them, moron !!! Also read what I sent to you friend leoperarm - some historical info about Lucia, bye nutpicker!!
sorkin777 2 years ago
and by the way, miss historian, Donizetti originally wanted the glass harmonica in the mad scene.
Again, your ignorance is as vast as the Sahara.
Do more research when you plan to shame people!
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, this is a well known fact,
(the glass harmonica ), so what does it have to do with the discusion ??? Are you drunk on top of having an OCD?
sorkin777 2 years ago
oh yes a known fact like you claimed Donizetti didn't want high notes and coloratura in the original edition?! LOL
you keep replying without facts just yap yap yap
Drunkness would be a temporary state of mind while you're a poser and a groupie 24/7
eradesso 2 years ago
sorkin hasn't looked out for more but there are many in Netrebko's every production.
thugman30 2 years ago
Unfortunately, they weren't met. Bel canto singing has never been Netrebko's strong suit. At its best, her voice is a light but full soprano with a quality of rounded darkness that lends extra communicative weight to her limpid high notes. Monday night, after she wandered onstage -- even her fans appeared unsure it was her at first -- she sang with a voice that sounded thinner and paler: a column of sound that lacked a pedestal.
By Anne Midget
Washington Post
thugman30 2 years ago
Netrebko simply lacked the vocal agility to pull it off. She stinted on much of the usual ornamentation and failed to hit the final high E-flat squarely. The applause that followed was surprisingly tepid for a scene that usually stops the show in its tracks.
By Mike Silverman
Seattle Times
thugman30 2 years ago
sorry but, there will be no response, they are all blocked LOL
leoperarm 2 years ago
And the fact you know as little of psychology as you do of music well darling it's somewhat reassuring.
And hey, acting is definitely an art when you perform Shakespeare in a theatre without the singing part. I'll break it to you again.. OPERA IS ABOUT SINGING and only after you get that part ticked comes the acting!
eradesso 2 years ago
you've just destroyed all your 'work' with that question, trust me! LOL
leoperarm 2 years ago
leoperarm , a liitle historical passage for you - In the past, Lucia di Lammermoore became almost a parody as a coloratura soprano's showpiece and sometimes a showstopper. The extraordinary vocal pyrotechnics were not a part of the original 1835 score, nor was the scene at first performed solely with a flute accompaniment. The mad scene does include coloratura passages, but these are not extravagant or ostentatious; they mirror Lucia's madness.
sorkin777 2 years ago
leoperarm, more for you Donizetti did not write ornamentation or roulades that would highlight only the voice: the music as written is essential to the drama and the display of Lucia's state of mind. All of the coloratura was composed originally to exploit the fine vocal gifts of the first Lucia, Fanny Tacchinardi-Persiani.
So, it was never a requirement and is still not and Netrebko is a great Lucia!!! Get it ?
sorkin777 2 years ago
LMAO!!! you teach history of music to us now? god how pretentious you are!!!
You go take a look at the critical edition and see in what keys the mad scene was.
Let's just say your Netrebko would have been short of a couple notes!
eradesso 2 years ago
I'll save you some time, Donizetti originally wrote the Mad Scene in the F Major key so the highest note was F natural.
Of course it's just the coloratura sopranos who do it to show off but the composer didn't expect them to sing an F?? Why did he wrote it? To humiliate your poor Netrebko about 180 years later???
Oh funny mentioning Mariella Devia does sing the original version. Uhm wait, she's just a show off coloratura soprano LOL
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, oh my god, you really suffer from OCD! And you may pretend to be a great opera critic all you want, but you are the shittiest musician to ever grace this earth first and foremost because you have NO respect for any other art form but your own.
sorkin777 2 years ago
Again, you mistake this as a personal opinion but I'll break to you another very basic concept that you ignore: MUSIC BEFORE BEING AN ART IS A SCIENCE.
And there is not eradesso's way or netrebko's way of singing a High E Flat. There is only the scientifical way to do it.
You either do it or you don't. It's not me.
This would require me to explain about Hertz and such to you. Not the car rental company, the frequency of sound.
eradesso 2 years ago
and since i'm the shitty musician and you're the great one, how comes you just insult me and you don't give me facts when you say you like Netrebko or hate Dessay?
Really my self-esteem is in danger when you talk to me like that... PFTTTTTTT
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, So what, it still was a great performance. High notes should mean nothing without the whole contents. Netrebkos brilliance is in what she does with her instrument. It is very easy for someone with high notes to impress, even if the rest is not very interesting.
sorkin777 2 years ago
well, there we have MONTSERRAT CABALLÉ singing the original score beautifully, I know things before giving an opinion. You can feel the difference between Caballe's and Mrs. Netrebko's Lucia di LammermooR. You are giving me information I manage since I was 13 years old :)
leoperarm 2 years ago
Leoperarm, 1) I sent you this info because you said that coloratura was a requirement
2) so what if MONTSERRAT CABALLÉ was a beautiful Lucia time ago, Netrebkos brilliance is in what she does with her instrument ; also she is a great artist and no wonder her Lucia was considered as one of "The GREAT PERFORMANCES AT THE MET of 2009" - DEAL WITH IT. By the way, in her HD performance she was flawless.
sorkin777 2 years ago
The MET is all but great since the let go a real talented soprano like Ruth Ann Swenson and let in that wannabe to sing coloratura roles so we really wipe our butts with the awards and recognitions that have to do with the Met.
It has just become a casino that has to cash as much money as possible.
And i do recognize that Netrebko does draw a huge amount of people just like Bocelli.
And just like Bocelli, all fame no talent.
eradesso 2 years ago
eradesso, well at least the best opera houses and great conductors around the world are on my side. You may pretend to be a great opera critic all you want, but you are just another psychopath from you tube, that is all. The conversation is over.
sorkin777 2 years ago
Conversation never began darling because you know nothing of Opera at all you don't discuss things you expect people to agree with you based on hearsay rather than musical facts..
We have a bet going on anyway, in maximum 5 years she will be voiceless and from here to that date she will cancel most her performances.
We shall see.
eradesso 2 years ago
sorkin777, 1) Dont waste your time, coloratura is a requirement on EVERY SINGLE belcanto score (original or not). Check it :)
2)Netrebko's got no instrument to do something with it :)
And you continue with the GREAT PERFORMANCES AT THE MET, so what? I don't give a damn care of it :))
leoperarm 2 years ago
And by the way I said I am a psychologist not that I work as one.
If Netrebko didn't go around so much to shallow events and rather stayed home with a good vocal coach she wouldn't actually get so many bad reviews.
No matter how much you pretend in your she gets bad reviews from many more people than just me and thugman ;)
But of course you don't read what you don't like!
eradesso 2 years ago
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sorkin777 2 years ago
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eradesso , 05 August 2008 - from MET family critic - Sieglinde -
Natalie Dessay, in her continued progress towards greater artistry, still doesn't know what opera is about. But she's right about one thing: they ought not to come to her performances expecting to hear beautiful voices, because there won't be any of that beauty shit getting in the way of her art. -
Actually this is what I been saying all along, opera is not about techniques, it is about art, get it you, poor nitpicker?
sorkin777 2 years ago
Anna Netrebko, besides her fabulous voice (which you can not appreciate since you are trying hard to find and listen only to deficient clips on you tube and God forbid to listen a decent CD or just because you are deaf), has great musical culture,
sorkin777 2 years ago
eradesso , You may pretend to be a great opera critic all you want, but you are are the shittiest musician to ever grace this earth first and foremost because you have NO respect for any other art form but your own. You were already engaged in lots of discussions about Anna's technique and it is just going in circles with you because your hate is so strong as if Neterbko had killed your mother and nothing calms you down.
sorkin777 2 years ago