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  • Best Raistlin analyses ever!

  • 13 ARE DUMB HULKING IDIOTS WHO ARE AFRAID OF THEIR SMARTER TWINS no offense to caramon.

  • I will tell you what the REAL appeal of Raistlin was. WE RELATE TO HIM. All of us were picked on at some time, had sibling rivalry, watched with jealousy and envy as the bigger, stronger and more beautiful were loved, praised and recipients of all things good as we were tormented. Those that loved us always treated us like weak children. All we wished for was the power to split the earth in two and THEN they will RESPECT us.

  • Nah....I don't really think the voice goes that well. Or at least that's not how I imagine Raistlin's voice lol. Raistlin by the way, is the most sexiest fantasy character of them all! Who wants bulging muscles and an overload of testosterone when there's Raistlin, intelligent, wise, unearthly...the most beautiful mind ever.

  • @Karrigan117 Yeah, i guess if you're into insane, self serving, and power hungry guys with a superiority complex...

  • @AebelAlmighty You're just jealous that women actually dig his type :P He might be all that you said, but at least he's hard to get, and he doesn't "pretend" either, it's the real deal. It was, after all a chick who created him...must be something about those characteristics that make us crazy!

  • @Karrigan117

    I see, he is "real." A REAL prick, a REAL murderer, a REAL liar, a REAL abuser

    he left a woman to die horrifically in the Abyss but "at least he was REAL and didn't PRETEND." Actually if you read the series, he pretended all the time. He pretended he cared when he really didn't.

    Enjoy your "reality."

  • @mongoose704 Okay so he's a prick...not in the way that most guys can be pricks but murderer, abuser? Uh, that would be his half sister actually, he never actually gets directly involved in murder and abuse. You should read the books if you're going to make comments about this character. And you mock me for using the world real even though you are the one taking it way out of context here.

  • @Karrigan117

    Never gets involded directly with murder and abuse?

    Oh let's see, Gnimsh, every living thing on Krynn. He would have murdered his own brother in a blink of an eye, that was made abundantly clear.

    I've read every book. Have you? Obviously not based upon the conclusions you have drawn. Either that or it has been fairly selective reading on your part.

  • @mongoose704 He WOULD have murdered his own brother? But he never actually did now did he? And if you read every book then you would also note that later after emerging from the Abyss and making a few appearances he does express some remorse for things he did in the past and claimed he could not rest in peace in the afterlife until he was once again joined by his companions. So Raistlin with a bit of an attitude adjustment..hmmm...still makes the most awesome character in Dragonlance ;)

  • @Karrigan117

    The fact he would have murdered his brother shows his TRUE HEART. He didn't because he had use for his brother, not out of sentimental value.

    And I notice you stayed far away from the murder of Gnimsh and the murder of every life on Krynn. Call it collateral damage if you wish it still shows utter disregard for life and ANYTHING neyond his ambition. Say it was another time line but the heart was the same in both.

  • @Karrigan117 Furthermore the idea that he had true remorse is simply not canon. Even if he did: So the man has a couple heartstrings. Who doesn't??

    but the fact remains he started a war that consumed every life on Krynn without a scrap of remorse. So how does that make him good: Is it because he is "real" and "not a phony?"

  • @mongoose704 Ugh look, it's like I told the other dude...quit flaming just cuz you don't like the fact that chicks dig the loners ;) The fact that he hated the workings of society and wasn't moved or swayed by it makes him all the more unique. He's hot sauce...deal with it :D

  • @Karrigan117

    I don't know why you think I'm the least bit interested in your desire to be fisted by him but I care not. What about the points I raised that your ignore?

    Welcome to the internet. Open your mouth, better be prepared to back it up!

  • @mongoose704 Why do I think you care? Um cuz you wont quit arguing with me and are therefore adding fuel to the fire. And the points you raised? Are all the negative ones of course, just as you ignore all the good ones I brought out. Shall we continue? I'm all for this nerdy debate lasting for an eternity ;)

  • @Karrigan117 Okay how about this for fuel on the fire to a nerdy debate.

    I compute a 99.97% that Chuck Norris would kick the crap out of Raistlin in two roundkicks (note how much credit I am giving Raistlin by implying he would survive the FIRST!)

  • @mongoose704 Raistlin would drop chuck with a fireball no problem. Fuck chuck Norris hes the biggest bitch on the planet. My step mother dropped his ass in a karate tournament because of ya hes only like 5'.

  • @Karrigan117 So let's think of a more even challenge.

    James T Kirk.  He has also kicked the crap out of three gods. He also has the dreaded chop to the neck finisher.

  • THEY HAVE TOO make a War of the twins trilogy the scale of the the story and the scale of sheer scale of god destroy hights of magic involved would hold any audience at awe rastlin majere/fistandantalis is the the most powerfull mage i have ever read .I would also like to state I am not a virgin !

  • How about a Legan of Huma movie instead since it has a lot more to do with the "Dragonlance".

  • The thing is why wouldn't they make a good movie out of these books? I mean they have sold well have they not/ Why would they have made a crapy cartoon?

  • the one that starts at 0:11 is by far the best!

  • Raistlin forever! Great clip!

  • I have to say that when Ralph Fiennes showed up as Voldemort in the HP movies I was furious - for years I had thought he would make the Ultimate Raistlin. Now he can't play him, even if he had the chance...

  • i think that heth ledger would have been the best for the role

  • I personally do not think there are any actors out that can play the role of Raist.

    I think that the best Raistlin would be found in some country over seas with some actor that is trying to make his way into the big scene from Acting School or something. Because I've witnessed scenarios like this to happen and they pull of an excellent role. Why? Because again, they have to make a huge effort and do it right and commit to the charecter. Actors who already have a name do not.

  • I have to sort of agree with you there. But I don't think that the actors whoa lready have a name purposely don't try as hard (not all fo them) but that they are just getting too comfortable witht heir success. I do think that if they do make a DL movie then most of the cast should be unknowns though I really think Serius Black (the actor from Harry Potter who's real name I can't remember) would make a good Sturm Brightblade.

  • maybe not Depp but Gilbert Godfree for sure.

  • Imo raistlin's voice is more like Golem in LOTR, but obviously more subtle and quiet. Still the strain has to be there.

  • you mean gollum? the true name is smeagol

  • If you think about it Gollum was schizophrenic. So it was either Gollum or Smeagol, bad or good ;D

  • lol, you make ME sick with your inadequate knowledge about middleearth! :)

  • Friends, friends. Let us not forget the true reason we're all here. We must teach Bupu to count past a whole bunch.

  • ROFL!!

  • actually you should do US a favor and find some people who care about you, we sure don't, hf

  • wow, two months? i apologize i have not the time for, ah, i apologize again i have no words for someone who calls another a nerd for knowing a bloody name. You see the movies, you hear the name. Now get your glasses and read well : WHY WOULD I MAKE SICK SOMEONE WHO CALLS ME A NERD WHEN YOU ARE CLEARLY TRYING TO GET ATTENTION BY INSULTING RANDOM PEOPLE ON RECREATIONAL SITES? Sorry for caps, I wish you to read that quite well. Now do us a favor and seek atention elsewhere. Good day to you sir/miss

  • What the hell is your deal?

    Your grammer sucks btw, just said I'd let you know, it's a form of creative critisism, except I hate you so how creative can that be

  • then i apologize to you, Waylander08 i failed to see that. Would you be willing to teach me? However, I do believe it is called grammar. Good day, sir/miss

  • Oh great, you again *sighs*

    Okay you incredible idiot, Grammar is how its spelled in some countries, and Grammer is how it's spelled in others, got it numbnuts??

    Good

    However, I dont really think you can use that reason on your own messages, which seem to have been written by a slow seven year old

  • Please excuse me, but how can you write about ages through the internet? It is rather rude, and you never know how old the person really is. Apart from that, then I apologize, i did not know both terms were correct, my hat off to you. And what reason do you reffer to? On a different note, please stay out of the"retarded" jokes, for they are people too. Good day to you sir/miss.

  • He gets the wispy part of the voice but Raistlin's voice was deeper and somewhat strained

  • It came out and royally sucked balls. I mean honestly it would have been better had it not been a crappy cartoon.

  • the movie came out or no?

  • that movie was an epic fail

  • ponyfreak123:

    Tas-elijah wood

    Gold Moon-Jessica Alba

    Silvara-Emmy Rossum

    Caramon-someone with more muscle.

    no pproblems with the others,just these.

  • heres my pick for a cast is they do a live action one : tanis- Ewan Mcgregor Laurana-Keira knightly Sturm-gary oldman Raistlin - johnny depp Caramon- drew fuller tas- michael j fox flint- john rhys davies kitiara- catherine zeta jones goldmoon- monica bellucci riverwind- james marsden alhana starbreeze - eliza dushku gilthanis- orlando bloom silvara- helena bonham carter tika- amber tamblyn let me know what you think!
  • depp wouldnt be a good raistlin maybecrispin glover.

  • idk man i'm not so sure depp could do a role like that. raistlins a very fragile character and very physically weak, i cant see depp being able to put up with that, he seems like he needs to be way too eccentric so i dont see that working.

  • no fucking way depp

    lets remember who Raistlin is and what his bloodlines are.... he is a warrior sapped of his physical strength

    Yeah ok depp gets it for the creepy part but not even close on portraying a character of such strength.... depp is a victim in general... Raistlin is a victim of his own hand with the courage of a fukn zulu on magic mushies... he is strength wrapped so delicately in skin

  • I don't ever remember them referring to Rastlin as a warrior. He was born as a sick child and his parents were not even sure that he would live past infancy. They even told stories of when he was young and use to entertain people with his magic tricks (though he was also picked on by these same kids). Raistlin was never a warrior and even before his Test at the Tower he was sickly. But, still, I agree that Depp is a HORRIBLE choice though he does have very good acting experience.

  • Its been a long time since Ive read the books but yeah your right about the sickly child part and performing tricks in his youth but I'm sure I remember his skill with the sword being quite impressive only that he lacked physical stamina. People seem to recall him too much for the wasted man he was after the test but he was nursed back to health. I never did imagine him scrawny, just sickly..... and only referred to as small in comparison to Caramon.

  • Hmm, I don't remember his skill with the sword but that very well could have been. He was very small when compared to Caramon and I might be remembering him as scrawny because the last DL books I read were the Legends in which he was travelling alongside Caramon the whole time and he was simply small in comparison. I don't really remember him for being sickly though, as he was in Chronicles, but with God-like powers after defeating the Queen. My favorite form of him was in DragonsofSummer Flame

  • I really need to pull those books down from the shelf and dust em off lol..., greatest books ever man. It's honestly great meeting other people who have read and appreciate the books too. I'm 32 now and even though I read those books 2 or 3 times each I think the last time I read them I was maybe 18. All I will say is if they ever do make a movie they better be prepared to shell out the dollars and make it as good if not better than LOTR was. My collection is there for when my son grows :)

  • *shudder* Please don't wish LotR movie success on DragonLance's possible movie. I HATED LotR and the only Tolkein book I actually enjoyed was The Hobbit. lol I first read Dragons of Autumn Twilight when I was 13 but was unable to find the rest of the books so I didn't read the entire series until I was 16 (I think) and I'm 20 now. If you really enjoy them then you should look for the Annotated versions of Chronicles and Legends. The side notes alone will motivate you to read them all over again

  • I read them when i was in 12/13 and managed to read one after the other then continued to read the elminster books after. These are my favorite books i have read. Though the dritz books are a close second. the move was crap i actually rage quit after it coz i found it wanting compared to the books.

  • First of all, his name is Drizzt and not "dritz." Sorry, I have to correct that name every time I see it. lol Second of all, I do not quite understand what you said in the last line as your wording was sort of strange to me. You might have bad grammar or your might be foreign (to me at least), I'm not sure. If you would like me to reply back to that comment then please re-send it with better wording that I may understand it. Thank you

  • I seriously envy you! I live in sweden, so its bloody damn hard to find the english books, not to mention the translated! I only got to read as far as "Dragons of Summer Flame", when they stopped translating the series. :(

  • Yes I love the series and the movie a lot! I'm surprised that pple didn't like it, all over the forums. Isn't there a sequel movie to autumn twilight? I can't get the books here ack

  • I agree with u:) Johnny is the only actor who can be a good Raistlin character (sorry for my English^^)

  • Tanis was younger then that.

    Raistlin must be palyed by me lol.

    Tas and micheal?nooo...

  • Tas and Michael. That's what I said too.

  • where did you get that last picture at :37??? i love it! i want it!! :D

  • one the movie was butchered horribly.......and this voice is just cool he has some hint of emotion in it with the whole creepyness thing the movie was just bland with the voices but i like this

  • Ummm...there is an animated dragonlance movie where sutherland gives his voice to raistlin but the voice here is sayin lines frm 24...

  • LOL WTF, CHINA!!?

  • Oh fuck yes. That was hot. Do me now.

    The stills here are far better than that animation... travesty... thing.

  • why is this called keifer sutherland when the only picture of an actual person was johnny depp?

  • actually, compared to this, the animation voice was kinda..... bad.

  • I KNOW!

  • lol raist dosent die in china lmao

  • or did he?

  • this video sucks penises.

  • Its not the voice thats the problem,check out the other trailers.(p.s. this is a sample of his voice,Raist wont be talking about china in the movie.)

  • dragonlancemovie.blogspot com/

  • I see a tralier of a movie.I think that is a joke..No one has a big balls to relase this piece of shit

  • first it is not a piece of shit!!!second go and hide somewere!!

  • oh come now- even a die hard fan can recognize that this 70's style is completely unfitting.

  • j=JACK MAJERE HAS 24 HOURS TO SAVE THIS FILM. I'M GOING TO SPOIL IT NOW AND TELL YOU HE FAILS. MISERABLY.

    THE ARTWORK YOU PUT ON THIS IS ABOUT A KERZILLION TIMES BETTER THAN THE MOVIE ITSELF.

  • LOL agreed

  • o crap . . . i am so excited to watch it though!

  • no0o!! kiefer sutherland is THE WORST person to have a voice for raistlin!!! :'(

    in the book, raistlin`s voice, is weak, raspy, sickly and everything else besides what kiefer`s voice is...i am so sad about this v_v

  • ...did he say "china" at 0:11?!

  • Raist ftw...i can see Sutherland fitting the role very well, though the movie itself...it depends on how they handle the animation.

  • It's KIEFER for cryin' out loud...

  • I VOTE RAISTLIN

  • Voldemort vs. Raistlin......Raistlin would drop him like a lead weight, he'd ass rape him, in a non-gay way.

  • HELL YA!!!! Raistlin would kick his sorry ass and then the rest of thoses pathetic idiots that call themselves wizard in voldermorts world!!

  • Umm is it just me or would Rastlin Pwn all of hogwarts? I mean the guy was taking on Gods.

  • Not even Keifer Sutherland can save this movie...

  • HE'S SO EFFING SEXY

    holy god

  • I heard Keifer Sutherland is going to REALLY play Raistlin in the (animated)DragonLance movie.

  • do someone know the song name starting 25th second

  • do someone know the song name starting 25th song name

  • Hahaha.

    Hearing Jack's voice from 24 over pictures of Raistlin was odd. I am an avid 24 watcher, but also a Dragonlance and Raistlin lover, so this was kind of weird for me.

    This is most definitely a clip from 24. Since it's just Kiefer playing Jack, I'm sure his voice for Raistlin will be different. More raspy or what not. I think Kiefer Sutherland will make a fine Raistlin.

    I don't know whether this movie will be bad or not, but regardless, I am VERY excited. =)

  • can you plz tell me what the movie name is?

  • dragonlance

    Dragons of autumn twilight

  • I've never really thought of Raistlin with a sarcastic voice. I've always imagined him with a real low voice like after having all you're air blown out (first hand experience) and with a bitter voice and almost spitting like voice when hes mocking someone. :') thats the lovable raistlin in my head.

  • He is constantly described as being bitter and sardonic in the first trilogy, Keifer's voice is a perfect pick. Too bad they hired fecalating monkeys to do the animation.

  • I alwyas imagin raist looking like that last inage...only frailer =) loved this

    yeah!

  • That clips isn't the best version of his voice, but, yeah, he has the bitter, sarcastic voice when he wants to use it. It's good casting.

  • Oh, and where did you find that fourth picture.

  • One thing about Sutherland's voice though is that he's not doing it for Raistlin, The voice is from 24 from what I've heard. So he will...hopefully speak more like what you'd imagine Raistlin would speak like in the actual movie.

  • I alwyas imagin raist looking like that last inage...only frailer =) loved this (y) thankyou.

  • This voice S**ks!! I'ts not as raspy, sarcastic as I imagined after reading the books. I don't know, but this movie will be ... strange

  • Shirak

    First, Kiefer might be able to do Raistlin's voice, but can he do Fistandantilus's voice? I don't know that he can....

    Second, he may be able to do a raspy, wheezy voice, but it also has to be bitterly sardonic and condescending.

    Dumak

  • exactly, especially since that is how they describe it, but he does the whisper pretty well...

  • Shirak

    It is irrelevant whether Keifer can do Fistandantilus, they might just use his non-raspy voice as Fist, or use a different actor altogether.

    Second, it isn't too hard to go into being bitter and sardonic as an actor.

    Dulak.

  • "Drop the wand NOW or I swear to God I'll shoot!"

    I could see that. Nah, he seems like he'll do all right. By the way, The Lost Boys is one of my favorite movies. So just in case anyone isn't aware, Sutherland can play a very good bad guy.

  • Raistlin is a amazing character. I am very happy, Kiefer Sutherland make the Raistlin voice in the upcoming animated movie, 'Dragons of Autumn Twilight'. His voice has that certain texture to it. He can capture the 'character' of Raistlin's voice,Kiefer, I think, has what it takes to give it life. Sorry,I hope that they understand to me,my english is not good,i am from Argentina.

  • I was disappointed at first hearing that Kiefer would be the voice for Raistlin, but after I've thought about it (and watched a few more episodes of 24), I think he has a good shot.

    His voice, while familiar with the Jack Bauer character, has that certain texture to it. He can capture the 'character' of Raistlin's voice, as described in the books, while also giving it some sort of realism. Anyone can do a hoarse whispery mockery of Raistlin. Kiefer, I think, has what it takes to give it life.

  • hocam dehset bse! sadece bastaki raistlin gercektir tamammı digerleri sahte ya olmuo larry elmore yarattı o karakteri ama ses süper olmus insallah coq gzl olur caramonu kim seslendirio bilen warmı!

  • I think Keifer Sutherland is an awesome choice for Raistlin, but I seriously doubt he'll sound like that.

    Go watch "Dark City" if you can find it (Its a movie) and listen to his voice there... THAT is a bit more of what I hear when I "hear" Raisltin in the books.

    From reading things here and there I heard he was very miticulous about getting Raistlin's voice, personality, and spell pronunciations exactly right.

  • Look Keifer is going to make a great Raistlin his voice is usually dry and slightly rasping at times so im sure hes going to kick ass as the best bad ass mage of all time

  • We'll see on the voice... but darn I wish it was a live movie too.

  • He can make the voice work. I sure wish this movie was live action though.

  • No way! This is not how I imagined Raistlin to sound like. They need to find someone else...

  • it sux 4 me,ain't fit 4 Raistlin,his vioce must be more cynical and unhealty

  • exacly. he should also hav an edge of bitterness and sarcasm, jus like in the books

  • jack bauer as raistlin majere are you fucking kiddin or what? he could maybe be a good tanis

  • i can't wait, i just heard about them making this movie. a few years back i read the chronicles and the twin series. I was told the movie will be on the chronicles

  • I am Fvuk1ng excited. Autumn Twilights gonna be the shit.

  • YAY! that's sounds just like him!!! I was so worried that he was going to screw up Raistlin's voice (it always sounded so...not whispering) but now, I am satisfied!

  • i agree that imagine raistlin to soudn like that but a bit more synical

  • wow wait a second... what is this movie all about? they are making a dragon lance movie?!?

  • yes, they are making a movie. check out the offical dragolance movie site at dragonlance-movie 'dot' com.

  • Spooky...I cant wait to see the movie. I hope Keifer softens his voice some to fit Raistlins image and character.

  • I concur, it dosen't fit Raistlin. I thought he was weaker and more frail in the voice. He is a weakling pysicaly.

  • The voice is pretty good, but somehow, it just doesn't fit Raistlin...

  • Yeah - I hink that also. But he just might change it good enough once its done...

  • that's so COOL!

  • It is going to be good. I love Dragonlance, have read pretty much every book several times through. I'd prefer to see Huma, I'm a big fan of the idea of Knights and honor (in real life and books) but I'll settle for this!

  • Very nice, very nice... I can imagine Raist talking like that.

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