@ant230685...who deseves to die while competing in sports...you don't sound to be very intelligent. And you start by writing "dont b a hero...", what's wrong with you?
That is how you kill a man in the ring. How many shots did Parets whole body lurch, and lurch , and lurch as Parets head went back. That is a real right.
the commentary from ring of fire was an except from an editorial done released in Cuba on the death of Benny Paret, so you can't really use that as legit commentary because of the emotions that the author was dealing with because boxing was a much larger sport at the time of this fight
A LITTLE TO FAR!! WHAT ARE YOU KIDDING ME? IT WAS JUST THAT ERA AS THAT REFERRE LET IT GO WAY TO FAR, EVEN BY THE STANDARDS THEN!! THAT PIECE A SHIT!! I SAW THE FIGHT AND I ALSO SANG AS A CHOIR BOY IN BENNY'S FUNERAL IN MIAMI!
HE WAS A MARICON!! I COULD NEVER STAND THE BASTERD!!
HE WAS A DIRTY FIGHTER AS I SAW MOST OF HIS FIGHTS!!
@havanakings He is a trained fighter. Taught to fight until the bell and until the ref stops him. If he did not knee anyone in the balls, or anything like that, to me, that is not a dirty fighter. Secondly, may I ask what you have against gay people? This so called maricon could have probably killed you with one punch. If it were not for the fact that he was nearly beaten to death, just because he was gay, he probably still could kill you with one punch. Boxers die in the ring. Here's proof.
A very great series of fights between these two men but this third one was marred by extremely bad refereeing in the last round! Griffith was by far the superior fighter (as was Ray Mancini in his tragic fight with Duk Koo Kim!)--- the referee should have stopped this when Paret stopped covering up or returning punches! This referee was criminally negligent in my book!
As hard as it is to watch knowing the aftermath, this is what aggressive sports are all about. You need to have that extra burst at the end to succeed. Unfortunately in this case, it went a little too far and nobody realized he was already unconscious but upright.
Also, doing an article for top ten most painful sports injuries to watch after the NFL Knox hit, if anyone wants to give me a recommendation just reply to this.
Wow. That's the most brutal fight I've ever seen, worse than any MMA bloodfest. I've noticed refs were a LOT slower to stop a fight in years gone by. Seemed like either his knees are on the canvass for a 10 count or the fight goes on. Bloody horrible when a guy gets held up by the ropes like here. Did they not have a 'can't defend himself' rule, or did they just interpret it differently?
Also obvious that boxing is less humane than MMA, IMO. You never get 5-10+ power shots to the head in MMA
@jonoderidder Ruby Goldstein refereed this fight. He was actually known as a ref who stopped fights early, and, if I'm not mistaken, there was a fight a few months before this one--I forget who was fighting--that he got a lot of grief over for stopping too early.
@thedfl72 Right. Well as I say I don't know how things were conducted back then but it seems to me they were a lot slower to step in; cf the Depsey title fight
@jonoderidder The Dempsey-Willard fight was a brutal classic. Back then, you didn't have to go to a neutral corner after knocking a guy down, so Dempsey just stood over him waiting to knock him out as Willard got to his feet. Plus, it was something like 110 degrees in the ring that day. Just a crazy fight.
@ Strongboy 1770... you sound like you're pleased at the results of how this boxing match ended. If Paret did call Griffith a maricon, are you happy with how this match ended? You sound quite jubilant.
@MrBayrocks Pleased and jubilant, no. Did you read my other comments? But as the son of a Holocaust survivor I can identify with what Griffith presumably was going through. If I was a world class fighter (haha) and an opponent at a weigh-in made an anti-Semitic crack at me, I'd let him know that I intend to settle that in the ring. No quarter given or expected. The ref better do his job because I'll be doing mine.
@MrBayrocks dont b a hero we dont know if he deser to die but by sounds o it the guy a dik anyway only his kids wud b an issue an also it was the ref that killed hin
I'd heard about this but never seen it before. I don't see how the ref couldn't see that Paret was out on his feet before Griffith threw that last series of uppercuts. He waited way too long to jump in and stop it. But then again, Paret supposedly had a reputation for faking being hurt in a fight and then turning on his opponent, so who knows?
I saw this fight as a teenager and didn't realize I was watching Paret's last hours of life...I walked away from the TV set thinking I had seen a great fight...sad, really sad.
As a boxer and you really want to be the boxer, you should accept this kind of results. To be killed in the last battle or you should destroy your opponents, knock them down rather winning by decesion. It's sad that boxer to be killed on the stage but this is the destination.
Spartan mother to her son going off to battle: Come home victorious with your shield or dead upon it. We moderns have referees so that boxers shouldn't have to die in what is, after all, entertainment. But if the worst happens, it beats rotting in an old folks' home. I'm sure any combat athlete fears infirmity more than he fears death.
@Strongboy1770 Unfortunately, infirmity in the form of (drooling, shaking dementia brought on by repeated head trauma) is a far more common fate than death for boxers and other fighting / contact sport athletes.
@PurrfectPeach We have the Marquis of Queensberry to thank for that. Gloves protect hands, not heads, and blasts to the balls end fights before brains can get scrambled.
@Strongboy1770 Agreed, partly. Hands are rather important. I guess if one wants to see a more no-holds-barred fights that's what MMA is for these days. And I wouldn't be surprised if MMA fighters, in the long term, sustained a lot less damage than boxers given that their fights are much shorter. Boxing as it has evolved since M of Q has turned into a sport with a different and somewhat limited skill set (punching hard, landing punches, dodging punches, and taking the ones you can't dodge). =0/
@PurrfectPeach MMA compiled an admirable safety record compared to pro boxing and football, even before the rules were watered down for the squeamish. Yet MMA gets all the negative press.
Kill or be killed....sad for Paret. But boxing is a bloodsport, one should buy life insurance because sometimes people get killed in these types of sports. That is why we have tennis, basketball, and track and field.
My two cents..I watched this fight back in 1962.The Friday nght fights was a weekly TV show. It was on for years.This fight was for the Welterweight Championship & the refs always let the boxers go as far as possible & Ruby Goldstein was a veteran referee .After this sad ending, there was a backlash of public opinion & this weekly Boxing show was taken off the air. The TV commentator was Don Dunphy,.who had 2 cameos,along with Howard Cosell, in Woody Allen's 1971 hilarious film "Bananas"
not to mention the bullshit spewed over in the documentary , its a tragedy , but their was no wrong doing, by griffith, an they are makeing a man of excellance out to be something hannis
collapsed from exhaustion .. ide imagine .. it was probublly for the best this caused the outrage it did, the sport is better because of it , its disgusting the leval of ignorence displayed by the staff of this event comentators an ref alike
Ironically Griffith was angry at Paret for calling him a fag, and said he wanted to kill him, but it actually turned out to be true. writers at the time, thought he was just talking trash before the fight.
@narlyboi4 i agree. should he have called griffith a faggot? no. but he didn't deserve to die for that either. and griffith didn't mean to kill him either. he may have said he was trying to but saying "i tried to kill him" and actually doing it are two completely different things. especially when you're enraged and you express such great remorse for it afterward.
I find that pretty racist the white ref knew he should of stopped the fight but since they were both Non White he wanted one of them to get hurt REALLY bad I mean dang these boxers should know when its enough when the guy anit blocking dont keep hitting him in the face you know he's done dont keep hitting i mean like seriously
I'm glad you could step into the ref's mind and determine what's going on there and why. When a man is in a fight and the adrenaline's pumping, he's not thinking of the enemy's physical condition. He's trained to fight until the ref stops him. That's why the ref is there and, tragically, this one didn't do his job.
@lildertygangsta i cant see any reason why the ref should be accused of racism when the rules on safety werent as tough as they are now unless you personally have a problem with white people and are looking to take a stab at one.
@lildertygangsta I propose a law that nobody with the name "gangsta" gets to criticize either race relations or violence. Particularly if the rest of their name include "lilderty," and they don't know how to punctuate.
@lildertygangsta I really don't see how you can make that assumption. It's possible, but do you have ANYTHING to back it up whatsoever? The ref didn't stop the fight early enough, obviously, but racism is hardly the only explanation for that failure. And FYI I am a person of color too.
After Gil Clancy died,(griffith's manager),a reporter who was at the fight wrote a eulogy on him. He said that he heard Griffith tell Clancy that he tried to kill Paret. Ironically, Griffith was beaten outside of a gay club some decades after the fight and that has caused him to have dementia. And I also agree that after that uppercut, Paret was either dead or unconscious. Just a sad story all around
@jennrenee2 Paret lingered in a coma for nine days and died without regaining consciousness. He might have been unconscious after the uppercut but the ref didn't have to assess that. As soon as he saw that Paret was unable to continue, he should have jumped in.
This I'd boxing and ur trained to only stop when the red says stop so he was doing his job but he should've known when enough is enough Benny Kidd paret died 9 days later
The fullmer beating went a long way towards poor benny's death - that was a brutal stoppage he took from Gene Fullmer prior to this rubber match with emille .
@elvishskills I don't think he was trying to kill him or beating him to death intentionally because Paret called him a "maricon." An athlete competes to win, and in boxing as in other combat sports, winning can be brutal. As mentioned, Paret probably should not have been in the ring after the Fullmer fight. It's a tragedy, for sure, but certainly not intentional in any way.
@Strongboy1770 Fuck off. A) There's no proof and B) Calling him a maricon would make Paret a cunt but implying he deserved to die for it makes you a bigger cunt.
The real villains in this travesty were the venal managers of Benny Paret who worked him like a laboratory animal.Gene Fullmer softened Paret up for Griffith.
I think the referee failed to stop the fight when he should of. There is a rule that when a fighter recieves a certain amount of unanswered blows the fight is stopped. Here there were at least 20 unanswered fatal blows. Had the referee adhered to this rule perhaps Paret would not have had this fatal end. Emile Griffith was never the same after this fight. If I'm not mistakened, he lost the title and became an homeless alcoholic, so in a sense Paret died physically but Griffith died spiritually.
I think the referee failed to stop the fight when he should of. There is a rule that when a fighter recieves a certain amount of unanswered blows the fight is stopped. Here there were at least 20 unanswered fatal blows. Had the referee adhered to this rule perhaps Paret would not have had this fatal end.
After viewing a lot of these comments my only advice to some of the mean spirited ones who just love to point the finger of blame from their comfy computer chairs is to watch the Emile Griffith story (i think you can view it on stagevu.com in full for free) even if your not a boxing fan its one of the best documentaries i have ever viewed as it really paints the picture of the whole political and social climate of the 60's, hard not to cry at the end though have to admit
Then why were you watching a boxing match? The outcome of this particular fight was tragic, and probably avoidable. The activity is simply men being men.
@shialover777 its just a sport man. if you know anything about it, it helps people like emile griffth who started out with nothing become something of themselves
I'm 54-years old, and used to watch the fights with my Dad. I think they were on Monday nights, sponsored by Gelette Razors. I can still remember the theme song. I didn't really understand what it was about, but I loved being with my Dad, so it was cool. Anyway, I vividly remember this event, and my father, a veteran fight watcher, sort of saying under his breath, "My God, he's killing him!" I remember Paret's worsening condition being a topic of dinner conversation the next few days.
@kingSpork1 actually there are alot of people to blame not the ref. first paret had fought many fights prior to the and won 3 out of 4 of em so clearly his body was in bad shape that is why his manger is one to blame. paret's mother even said he called her and he told her he wasnt feeling well.
Actually I studies it in school it had nothing to do with the fact paret called him a fag. He was just doing what Hebrew trained to do and got caught up in the moment so maybe you need to do some research :) the paret family also doesn't blame Griffith they blame the manager :)
@babygirl22776 Well, what i learned is in this fight there are many responsible for Parrets death. Parret, himself knew he had problems already to the head but still insisted on fighting. Griffith, he did get to excited and just lay the law of boxing "KO" what the fans want to see. The referee had bad judgment in the last seconds of the fight who could have possible save Parrets life; Every Blow to the head got him closer and closer to his death(parrets). dont get me started on Managers,fans
Ok being short, first off Griffith is bi-sexual and didnt come out of the closet before his fights with Paret, was called a faggot and you can see how he took it, there were alot of factors on why it went down and you all should read into it and watch documentarys, educate yourself instead of guessing on why it happened or where the guy is coming from. Why did he really kept hitting him after Paret was out standing off the first big uppercut?? Do some research!
@cubanero64 En principio no es una guerra. Es una deporte. Morir en un deporte significa que algo estuvo muy muy mal. Paret ya estaba knock out el arbitro debería haber detenido el combate, y ante la falla del arbitro debería el rincón de Paret haber tirado la toalla. Dejar que Griffith siga castigando a una persona inconsciente no tiene ningún sentido y es prácticamente criminal de parte de las personas que tienen el control de la pelea. No culpo a Griffith, sino al arbitro
The last words were wrong. Fighters go into a trance, I've been an amatuer fighter for a few years and I know that's not the same, but you have to shut yourself off and want to do nothing less than destory the other man. It sounds horrible but this is boxing.
To die in the ring is nothing less than a tragedy...but to see Benny Peret's son and Emile Griffith embarace was a humbling sight
@nuneswhite He did nothing wrong. It's a sad part of the business. Listening to the commentary, the announcers were seemingly unaware of the potential for catastrophic brain damage and chalked Paret's state up to "exhaustion". Without the technology to know the extent of Paret's neurological issues going into the fight, it's hard to say whether his death in the ring was inevitable. Either way, it's sad that this fight ruined two great fighters and their families.
@Vidike cuz the ref was known to call things to soon and the crowd would always boo him so its the national title fight man. what if you were that ref
WTF is Norman Mailer talking about? It's the 15th round, Griffith is tired & he can't measure Paret because he doesn't have the strength. So he's throwing as many close uppercuts, as possible, trying to finish the guy. But where's the ref? Mailer tries to make him a hero when he's the culprit. Then, he's got Griffith's corner jumping in to save Paret. Are you kidding? He wants us to believe Griffith is an unrepentant, suicidal, killer like Gary Gilmore. Please. Mailer was just pure BS.
Paret had a bit of a "keep hitting me/ I'm a tough guy" style and had taken some horrific beatings in his last few fights leading up to this one. He may have had a dangerous aneurysm before he even stepped into the ring that evening... There are other instances of people suddenly dying for the same reason.
It was the ref's responsibility to stop the fight even before Paret's head was between the ropes. The ref looked afraid of getting hit himself. Boo ref Goldstein.
@Strongboy1770 warrior? he wasn't fighting to protect his land or his people, he was fighting for a the hell of it, fighting to be payed, to be rich and famous.. thats how i see it anyway
@asaw1994 He might have decided to become a pro fighter to be rich, to be famous, to be PAID, but once he steps into that ring he's facing another strong, skilled fella trying to knock his head off. If he doesn't have the combat mindset, kill the other guy before he kills me, he won't do very well. That's why there's a ref in sport fighting. Unfortunately, this one didn't do his job.
sorry it wasn't aware of the fact that you go into a boxing ring with a killing mindset. that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. it's a fighting sport not a combat sport, combat implying do whatever you can to survive. i do muy thai kick boxing and not once have i ever gone in the ring with this mindset of kill him before he kills me. retard.
Your comment has opened up a whole new vista of stupid with a side-order of irony. I bet you a million dollars you are not a "muy thai" fighter but just boxing's version of one of those pathetic "YouTube War expert" kids.
Does anyone on the internet even know what trolling is anymore? Calling you out as some kid with Cheetos dust on his fingers being a "keyboard expert" and claiming to be in a combat sport but not approaching it with a "combat sport mindset" isn't trolling, it's calling you the retard that you are. There's a difference. You do about as much Muay Thai as I do nuclear physics.
Combat in a combat sport? It's more likely than you think...
@Strongboy1770 Ruby Goldstein was one of the greatest referees of all-time. He is a member of the Hall of Fame. The only reason why he didn't rush in and stop the fight right away was because Paret was known as a guy who played possum. He would take hits, them come back and fire off a flurry.. but Paret hung on too long this time and he paid the ultimate price for it.
@asaw1994 actually no your a dumbass, emile was forced to fight. he sold hats for a living tell someone found him and thought he had a boxers build. they were right and trained him. if you did any research you would know that emile even said he never wanted any of this its just all he knows now
It's so fucked up to think that we just watched a man get killed. Paret should have never called him a faggot, because Griffith would have never fought with such rage.
@chinton90 I think we've been thru that already. That rumor was confirmed in the documentary "Ring of Fire." Whether the remark had anything to do with what transpired in the ring is debatable, but if it did I do NOT blame Griffith.
@chinton90 yeah thats true and he got so worked up about it he hated that word because people thought he was a gay and at the time it was like being called the N word just as bad, he took it to offence and its ashame to seee something like this happen but hes still breathing i herd he died not sure what to believe
Paret has collapsed from exhaustion?? Did this idiot commentator not see the 20 something unanswered vicious punches that landed flush on Paret's chin?
Ref should have stopped it a few seconds earlier, but I have seen some worse instances of a ref not stoping fight sooner. But what a tragedy; Paret was a great fighter, but this could have happened to any fighter. Griffith did no more than any other fighter when they are finishing off a foe that wont go down.
You should check out the Sports Illustrated article at the time of this fight. Apparently Paret was known for facking being out just to bounce back and pum,mel his opponent. The ref knew that and wasn't buying Paret's unconsciousness.
@tronbox i apologize about my earlier comment. i rather enjoyed your comment as well as the fight. i found your comment funny as well as clever. i am 27. i grew up on violent video games. funny comment bro. sad but i am not the only one who came to this website looking for blood.
This fight, (3/24/62) and the Davey Moore death a year later, (3/21/63- also on U-Tube) almost killed boxing. The big difference between them is that Moore's death was a freak accident when he hit the back of his head on the rope. he was actually interviewed after the fight, (also on U-Tube). The ref in that one did nothing wrong. But here Ruby Goldstein stares at the action and does nothing, resulting in Paret's death.
Please remember that this fignt's end came relatively quickly, though it seems slow to us now. As someone said, refs tended to let fighters go longer then. Marciano would not have remained undefeated if the refs looked at his face and stopped fights. Also, Griffith was never known as a power puncher. He tended to win fights by using his superior boxing skills to gain decisions. I saw Griffith fight after this match, and he was never the same, as a fighter, or as a human being.
@thechatterboxman wrong paret would eat punches and retaliate he had amzing stamina it wassnt his boxing skill and was his speed and stamina that got to him and hes dead...
At about 0:15, the referee should have called for the bell. Absolute incompetence on the referee for letting Griffith beat Paret to death in the ring.
No is to blame but the ref. It's just absolute incompetence. He has a job to protect the fighters and he failed to do so. Paret takes 30 punches without responding, an idiot knows that he's out of the fight. I'd stop this at the point 11 seconds into this video.
@thechosen2010 ur absolutely right. i would have stopped the fight much much much earlier. the ref did his part to kill paret.i mean, paret was out about 15 punches before the ref stopped the fight.
It's hard to watch but that's professional boxing. usually boxers can stop but one can't rely on that. Sometimes the adrenaline takes over. I am usually very peaceful but I remember well the anger I had in my amateur fights in tae-kwen-do, the ref is there for a reason.
Bullshit. If Griffith knew Paret was unconscious, and continued attacking because of a word, he's a murderer. If he didn't know, then it was an accident. I don't know which is true. But there's no case where, even in a professional prize-fight, it's "justified" to brutalize an unconscious man because you aren't happy with the way he spoke to you.
he did what box tell boxers to do, to hit until referees stop the fight, it was totally the referees fault, thats what they are for, in every kind of fight matches, nothing justifies brutality, just cuz one wants to kill another for being called maricon
@SydneyOneSixThree - Legally, if a fighter is still on his feet without anything other than the soles of his feet touching the canvas, then the opponent is allowed to continue to hit until the ref either verbally tells the fighter to stop or the ref physically intervenes to stop the fight.
Morally, however, a fighter that continues to hit an unconscious opponent like that could be considered a murderer. Just not legally.
It was an asshole move on Griffith's part to continue punching the guy when he's clearly out cold, but fight stoppage is 100% the responsibility of the ref.
The REF is the one with complete presence of mind and situational awareness; HE'S the one in charge.
It seems many times in older bouts (anywhere between 1930 and 1970), the refs would allow boxers to beat each other to death's door.
The guy's clearly dead. I don't believe that coma theory they said just to save the day. Even in a coma, you're still breathing and the guy's chest is not even moving one bit. The "poetic" comments after the first part are really inappropriate. Both Griffith and the referee are to blame. Griffith because he killed the guy and the referee because he let him do it.
Sure, like Griffith was a doctor and should have made that determnation in the heat of battle. It's the ref's job to stop things when someone's out on his feet, and the ref didn't step in until Paret took about a dozen unanswered blows to the head. It's a FIGHT; it isn't tap dancing.
Some boxers have enough strength of character to stop when they're beating their opponent, but most of them are just mindless punchers like that Griffith. Go see the video of turk15 " 10 most brutal knockouts", most of them are just savage beatings but if you look to ko no.3, the guy was asking the referee to stop the fight because he was clearly beating his opponent. Griffith only wanted revenge because Parret called him a "fagget". If you can't dominate yourself, your place is not in a ring.
@ant230685...who deseves to die while competing in sports...you don't sound to be very intelligent. And you start by writing "dont b a hero...", what's wrong with you?
MrBayrocks 4 days ago
That incompetent ref is responsible for that Death. The fight should have been stopped long before the furry of punches
EIDYEIGHT 2 weeks ago
The ref was about four punches too slow jumping in there.
brianallancobb 2 weeks ago
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RoxxieBerry6 3 weeks ago
That is how you kill a man in the ring. How many shots did Parets whole body lurch, and lurch , and lurch as Parets head went back. That is a real right.
willkc8088 3 weeks ago
the commentary from ring of fire was an except from an editorial done released in Cuba on the death of Benny Paret, so you can't really use that as legit commentary because of the emotions that the author was dealing with because boxing was a much larger sport at the time of this fight
CITRUSDROPICUS 1 month ago
A LITTLE TO FAR!! WHAT ARE YOU KIDDING ME? IT WAS JUST THAT ERA AS THAT REFERRE LET IT GO WAY TO FAR, EVEN BY THE STANDARDS THEN!! THAT PIECE A SHIT!! I SAW THE FIGHT AND I ALSO SANG AS A CHOIR BOY IN BENNY'S FUNERAL IN MIAMI!
HE WAS A MARICON!! I COULD NEVER STAND THE BASTERD!!
HE WAS A DIRTY FIGHTER AS I SAW MOST OF HIS FIGHTS!!
THAT MY OPINION!!
havanakings 2 months ago
@havanakings He is a trained fighter. Taught to fight until the bell and until the ref stops him. If he did not knee anyone in the balls, or anything like that, to me, that is not a dirty fighter. Secondly, may I ask what you have against gay people? This so called maricon could have probably killed you with one punch. If it were not for the fact that he was nearly beaten to death, just because he was gay, he probably still could kill you with one punch. Boxers die in the ring. Here's proof.
PhalangitePower 3 weeks ago
A very great series of fights between these two men but this third one was marred by extremely bad refereeing in the last round! Griffith was by far the superior fighter (as was Ray Mancini in his tragic fight with Duk Koo Kim!)--- the referee should have stopped this when Paret stopped covering up or returning punches! This referee was criminally negligent in my book!
TheNickoda 2 months ago
@TheNickoda Or the ref could have feared for his life. Then again, if that were the case...HE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A REF THEN.
PhalangitePower 3 weeks ago
As hard as it is to watch knowing the aftermath, this is what aggressive sports are all about. You need to have that extra burst at the end to succeed. Unfortunately in this case, it went a little too far and nobody realized he was already unconscious but upright.
Also, doing an article for top ten most painful sports injuries to watch after the NFL Knox hit, if anyone wants to give me a recommendation just reply to this.
sativadivinorum 2 months ago
Wow. That's the most brutal fight I've ever seen, worse than any MMA bloodfest. I've noticed refs were a LOT slower to stop a fight in years gone by. Seemed like either his knees are on the canvass for a 10 count or the fight goes on. Bloody horrible when a guy gets held up by the ropes like here. Did they not have a 'can't defend himself' rule, or did they just interpret it differently?
Also obvious that boxing is less humane than MMA, IMO. You never get 5-10+ power shots to the head in MMA
jonoderidder 2 months ago
@jonoderidder Exactly. But MMA gets all the bad press.
Strongboy1770 2 months ago
@jonoderidder Ruby Goldstein refereed this fight. He was actually known as a ref who stopped fights early, and, if I'm not mistaken, there was a fight a few months before this one--I forget who was fighting--that he got a lot of grief over for stopping too early.
thedfl72 3 weeks ago
@thedfl72 Right. Well as I say I don't know how things were conducted back then but it seems to me they were a lot slower to step in; cf the Depsey title fight
jonoderidder 2 weeks ago
@jonoderidder The Dempsey-Willard fight was a brutal classic. Back then, you didn't have to go to a neutral corner after knocking a guy down, so Dempsey just stood over him waiting to knock him out as Willard got to his feet. Plus, it was something like 110 degrees in the ring that day. Just a crazy fight.
thedfl72 2 weeks ago
@thedfl72
I noticed the same thing, the being able to stand over the guy you'd just knocked down.
brianallancobb 2 weeks ago
@ Strongboy 1770... you sound like you're pleased at the results of how this boxing match ended. If Paret did call Griffith a maricon, are you happy with how this match ended? You sound quite jubilant.
MrBayrocks 2 months ago
@MrBayrocks Pleased and jubilant, no. Did you read my other comments? But as the son of a Holocaust survivor I can identify with what Griffith presumably was going through. If I was a world class fighter (haha) and an opponent at a weigh-in made an anti-Semitic crack at me, I'd let him know that I intend to settle that in the ring. No quarter given or expected. The ref better do his job because I'll be doing mine.
Strongboy1770 2 months ago 2
@Strongboy1770 Comparing anti-Semitic comments with comments on sexuality is essentially comparing apples and oranges.
BeatProfessor 1 month ago
@MrBayrocks dont b a hero we dont know if he deser to die but by sounds o it the guy a dik anyway only his kids wud b an issue an also it was the ref that killed hin
ant230685 4 days ago
I'd heard about this but never seen it before. I don't see how the ref couldn't see that Paret was out on his feet before Griffith threw that last series of uppercuts. He waited way too long to jump in and stop it. But then again, Paret supposedly had a reputation for faking being hurt in a fight and then turning on his opponent, so who knows?
derkommissar1917 2 months ago
This is actually a lesson to those who thinks hurting someones weak point is a way good thing.
TheSilentdarkmuse 3 months ago
Guess Paret called him Fag one too many times?
kcutz 3 months ago
I saw this fight as a teenager and didn't realize I was watching Paret's last hours of life...I walked away from the TV set thinking I had seen a great fight...sad, really sad.
PicassoStar1 3 months ago
ohmygod
AnacondaMiningCo 3 months ago
Bra96chan lol jk
plasticwinter 4 months ago
As a boxer and you really want to be the boxer, you should accept this kind of results. To be killed in the last battle or you should destroy your opponents, knock them down rather winning by decesion. It's sad that boxer to be killed on the stage but this is the destination.
rocketeerhk 4 months ago
@rocketeerhk
Spartan mother to her son going off to battle: Come home victorious with your shield or dead upon it. We moderns have referees so that boxers shouldn't have to die in what is, after all, entertainment. But if the worst happens, it beats rotting in an old folks' home. I'm sure any combat athlete fears infirmity more than he fears death.
Strongboy1770 4 months ago
@Strongboy1770 Unfortunately, infirmity in the form of (drooling, shaking dementia brought on by repeated head trauma) is a far more common fate than death for boxers and other fighting / contact sport athletes.
PurrfectPeach 3 months ago
@PurrfectPeach We have the Marquis of Queensberry to thank for that. Gloves protect hands, not heads, and blasts to the balls end fights before brains can get scrambled.
Strongboy1770 3 months ago
@Strongboy1770 Agreed, partly. Hands are rather important. I guess if one wants to see a more no-holds-barred fights that's what MMA is for these days. And I wouldn't be surprised if MMA fighters, in the long term, sustained a lot less damage than boxers given that their fights are much shorter. Boxing as it has evolved since M of Q has turned into a sport with a different and somewhat limited skill set (punching hard, landing punches, dodging punches, and taking the ones you can't dodge). =0/
PurrfectPeach 3 months ago
@PurrfectPeach MMA compiled an admirable safety record compared to pro boxing and football, even before the rules were watered down for the squeamish. Yet MMA gets all the negative press.
Strongboy1770 3 months ago
@Strongboy1770 Agreed, although I think people are now becoming more aware of the effects of repeated head trauma in football and boxing.
PurrfectPeach 3 months ago
Kill or be killed....sad for Paret. But boxing is a bloodsport, one should buy life insurance because sometimes people get killed in these types of sports. That is why we have tennis, basketball, and track and field.
mcentepede 4 months ago
i love writing ap lit essays about this......
miaHITit 4 months ago
ref should of been shot for this
craiggrogan 4 months ago
My two cents..I watched this fight back in 1962.The Friday nght fights was a weekly TV show. It was on for years.This fight was for the Welterweight Championship & the refs always let the boxers go as far as possible & Ruby Goldstein was a veteran referee .After this sad ending, there was a backlash of public opinion & this weekly Boxing show was taken off the air. The TV commentator was Don Dunphy,.who had 2 cameos,along with Howard Cosell, in Woody Allen's 1971 hilarious film "Bananas"
bballskip 5 months ago
1:45 thats what she said
plasticwinter 5 months ago
@plasticwinter grow up yo
bra96chan 4 months ago
yep, if the man being beaten is still standing, as a boxer, u dont make the determination that he cant fight anymore!
u fight until the ref steps in if he stil is standing
shoes1921 5 months ago
not to mention the bullshit spewed over in the documentary , its a tragedy , but their was no wrong doing, by griffith, an they are makeing a man of excellance out to be something hannis
Adam420Dreadz 5 months ago
collapsed from exhaustion .. ide imagine .. it was probublly for the best this caused the outrage it did, the sport is better because of it , its disgusting the leval of ignorence displayed by the staff of this event comentators an ref alike
Adam420Dreadz 5 months ago
Paret, may have been sick before the fight, Griffith only had 23 kos in 114 fights.
langlang07 6 months ago
Just a lump of dead nigger meat now.
eatswisschardforever 6 months ago
@eatswisschardforever Paret was actually Cuban, nice try though!
charliedoja 6 months ago
that fight could have been justifiably stopped much earlier and paret would have lived.
what a fuck up ob the refs part...
i dont blame emile cause its his job to punch untill the guy goes down or untill the ref pulls u away.
ghns1133 6 months ago
Collapsed from exhaustion? Huh?
frrrrrunkis 6 months ago
feels bad man...
Shokinowa 6 months ago
Ironically Griffith was angry at Paret for calling him a fag, and said he wanted to kill him, but it actually turned out to be true. writers at the time, thought he was just talking trash before the fight.
ronsmac 7 months ago
Ruling was terrible in these days
Izaak247 7 months ago
The comments that benny deserved to die becuz wat he sed is that of an ignorant really jus a dumbass person
narlyboi4 7 months ago
@narlyboi4 i agree. should he have called griffith a faggot? no. but he didn't deserve to die for that either. and griffith didn't mean to kill him either. he may have said he was trying to but saying "i tried to kill him" and actually doing it are two completely different things. especially when you're enraged and you express such great remorse for it afterward.
AmericanYeti 6 months ago
This video makes me sick now
lildertygangsta 7 months ago
I find that pretty racist the white ref knew he should of stopped the fight but since they were both Non White he wanted one of them to get hurt REALLY bad I mean dang these boxers should know when its enough when the guy anit blocking dont keep hitting him in the face you know he's done dont keep hitting i mean like seriously
lildertygangsta 7 months ago
@lildertygangsta
I'm glad you could step into the ref's mind and determine what's going on there and why. When a man is in a fight and the adrenaline's pumping, he's not thinking of the enemy's physical condition. He's trained to fight until the ref stops him. That's why the ref is there and, tragically, this one didn't do his job.
Strongboy1770 7 months ago 9
@Strongboy1770 plus the one guy is cuban an yah this ref was retarded
eton900 7 months ago
@lildertygangsta i cant see any reason why the ref should be accused of racism when the rules on safety werent as tough as they are now unless you personally have a problem with white people and are looking to take a stab at one.
MrTmm06 7 months ago
@lildertygangsta I propose a law that nobody with the name "gangsta" gets to criticize either race relations or violence. Particularly if the rest of their name include "lilderty," and they don't know how to punctuate.
AnimalAbuseIsUgly 5 months ago
@lildertygangsta I really don't see how you can make that assumption. It's possible, but do you have ANYTHING to back it up whatsoever? The ref didn't stop the fight early enough, obviously, but racism is hardly the only explanation for that failure. And FYI I am a person of color too.
PurrfectPeach 3 months ago
this is why i dont want to box to many health risks
lildertygangsta 7 months ago
qui griffit esagerò perdendo la misura tra agonismo sportivo e istinto omicida..
900claude 8 months ago
After Gil Clancy died,(griffith's manager),a reporter who was at the fight wrote a eulogy on him. He said that he heard Griffith tell Clancy that he tried to kill Paret. Ironically, Griffith was beaten outside of a gay club some decades after the fight and that has caused him to have dementia. And I also agree that after that uppercut, Paret was either dead or unconscious. Just a sad story all around
jennrenee2 8 months ago
@jennrenee2 Paret lingered in a coma for nine days and died without regaining consciousness. He might have been unconscious after the uppercut but the ref didn't have to assess that. As soon as he saw that Paret was unable to continue, he should have jumped in.
Strongboy1770 8 months ago
Fuck the referee, Ruby Goldstein cause he was late
AlAsgah 8 months ago
This I'd boxing and ur trained to only stop when the red says stop so he was doing his job but he should've known when enough is enough Benny Kidd paret died 9 days later
deezpresents 8 months ago
The fullmer beating went a long way towards poor benny's death - that was a brutal stoppage he took from Gene Fullmer prior to this rubber match with emille .
ThePanzerfist44 9 months ago
This tragedy, more than anything else, taught me not to be homophobic. It may cost you your life.
JGmartinezJr 9 months ago
He deserved to die for talking shit and not backing it up
omegamanGXE 9 months ago
"This is probably the tamest round of the entire fight". Not for long, unfortunately for Paret.
44032 9 months ago
poor paret
LexTheDino 10 months ago
@LexTheDino Poor? There are lines one does not cross, and Paret should have known what he was doing when he called Griffith a maricon.
Strongboy1770 10 months ago
@Strongboy1770 Yeah I know. It's just sad he died!! And it's my opinion get over it
LexTheDino 10 months ago
@Strongboy1770
so you just justified a man being beaten to death because he verbally insulted someone? you're an idiot.
elvishskills 9 months ago
@elvishskills I don't think he was trying to kill him or beating him to death intentionally because Paret called him a "maricon." An athlete competes to win, and in boxing as in other combat sports, winning can be brutal. As mentioned, Paret probably should not have been in the ring after the Fullmer fight. It's a tragedy, for sure, but certainly not intentional in any way.
hugogirardisking 9 months ago
@Strongboy1770 Fuck off. A) There's no proof and B) Calling him a maricon would make Paret a cunt but implying he deserved to die for it makes you a bigger cunt.
thisnotmyname 9 months ago 2
@Strongboy1770 I don't think he could've expected to be beaten to death
thomasimon 8 months ago
The real villains in this travesty were the venal managers of Benny Paret who worked him like a laboratory animal.Gene Fullmer softened Paret up for Griffith.
LimitedNewsCorp 10 months ago
I think the referee failed to stop the fight when he should of. There is a rule that when a fighter recieves a certain amount of unanswered blows the fight is stopped. Here there were at least 20 unanswered fatal blows. Had the referee adhered to this rule perhaps Paret would not have had this fatal end. Emile Griffith was never the same after this fight. If I'm not mistakened, he lost the title and became an homeless alcoholic, so in a sense Paret died physically but Griffith died spiritually.
alcatras4 10 months ago
I think the referee failed to stop the fight when he should of. There is a rule that when a fighter recieves a certain amount of unanswered blows the fight is stopped. Here there were at least 20 unanswered fatal blows. Had the referee adhered to this rule perhaps Paret would not have had this fatal end.
alcatras4 10 months ago
After viewing a lot of these comments my only advice to some of the mean spirited ones who just love to point the finger of blame from their comfy computer chairs is to watch the Emile Griffith story (i think you can view it on stagevu.com in full for free) even if your not a boxing fan its one of the best documentaries i have ever viewed as it really paints the picture of the whole political and social climate of the 60's, hard not to cry at the end though have to admit
lickstickly 11 months ago
@lickstickly I really dont see the documentary but i know the story.
bolasdefraile 10 months ago
L'arbitro è stato un idiota criminale .
In my opinion the referee was an idiot criminal . He had to stop the fight immediately .
michiamobob 11 months ago
@michiamobob i agree
bolasdefraile 10 months ago
boxing is sick..
shialover777 1 year ago
@shialover777
Then why were you watching a boxing match? The outcome of this particular fight was tragic, and probably avoidable. The activity is simply men being men.
Strongboy1770 1 year ago
@shialover777 its just a sport man. if you know anything about it, it helps people like emile griffth who started out with nothing become something of themselves
maddog2t3 1 year ago
I'm 54-years old, and used to watch the fights with my Dad. I think they were on Monday nights, sponsored by Gelette Razors. I can still remember the theme song. I didn't really understand what it was about, but I loved being with my Dad, so it was cool. Anyway, I vividly remember this event, and my father, a veteran fight watcher, sort of saying under his breath, "My God, he's killing him!" I remember Paret's worsening condition being a topic of dinner conversation the next few days.
desertswo 1 year ago
disgusting ending, totally shit referee.
kingSpork1 1 year ago
@kingSpork1 actually there are alot of people to blame not the ref. first paret had fought many fights prior to the and won 3 out of 4 of em so clearly his body was in bad shape that is why his manger is one to blame. paret's mother even said he called her and he told her he wasnt feeling well.
maddog2t3 1 year ago
I meant what he was trained to do
babygirl22776 1 year ago
Actually I studies it in school it had nothing to do with the fact paret called him a fag. He was just doing what Hebrew trained to do and got caught up in the moment so maybe you need to do some research :) the paret family also doesn't blame Griffith they blame the manager :)
babygirl22776 1 year ago
@babygirl22776
Hebrew?
Strongboy1770 1 year ago
@babygirl22776 couldnt agree more man, there were many factors to his death but griffth wasnt one of em
maddog2t3 1 year ago
@babygirl22776 Gil Clancy's a Jew?
JGmartinezJr 11 months ago
@babygirl22776 Well, what i learned is in this fight there are many responsible for Parrets death. Parret, himself knew he had problems already to the head but still insisted on fighting. Griffith, he did get to excited and just lay the law of boxing "KO" what the fans want to see. The referee had bad judgment in the last seconds of the fight who could have possible save Parrets life; Every Blow to the head got him closer and closer to his death(parrets). dont get me started on Managers,fans
jimenezjamz 10 months ago
Ok being short, first off Griffith is bi-sexual and didnt come out of the closet before his fights with Paret, was called a faggot and you can see how he took it, there were alot of factors on why it went down and you all should read into it and watch documentarys, educate yourself instead of guessing on why it happened or where the guy is coming from. Why did he really kept hitting him after Paret was out standing off the first big uppercut?? Do some research!
TIMLINGLE 1 year ago
peleo como un gerrero y murio de pie como un cubano de verdad cojonuo ,para mi es un ejemplo. que decanse en paz., valiente gerrero.
cubanero64 1 year ago
@cubanero64 English please
Strongboy1770 1 year ago
@Strongboy1770 , I feel, speak it is español I am Cuban
for that I have to write in groin, if I am Cuban
is yuotube democratic and international, you can speak germani?
cubanero64 1 year ago
@cubanero64 En principio no es una guerra. Es una deporte. Morir en un deporte significa que algo estuvo muy muy mal. Paret ya estaba knock out el arbitro debería haber detenido el combate, y ante la falla del arbitro debería el rincón de Paret haber tirado la toalla. Dejar que Griffith siga castigando a una persona inconsciente no tiene ningún sentido y es prácticamente criminal de parte de las personas que tienen el control de la pelea. No culpo a Griffith, sino al arbitro
bolasdefraile 10 months ago
The last words were wrong. Fighters go into a trance, I've been an amatuer fighter for a few years and I know that's not the same, but you have to shut yourself off and want to do nothing less than destory the other man. It sounds horrible but this is boxing.
To die in the ring is nothing less than a tragedy...but to see Benny Peret's son and Emile Griffith embarace was a humbling sight
oasis4ever92 1 year ago
i don't getwhat the problem is. A fighter fights untl the bell goes, the other fighter drops or the ref calls the fight. What did he do wrong?
nuneswhite 1 year ago
@nuneswhite He did nothing wrong. It's a sad part of the business. Listening to the commentary, the announcers were seemingly unaware of the potential for catastrophic brain damage and chalked Paret's state up to "exhaustion". Without the technology to know the extent of Paret's neurological issues going into the fight, it's hard to say whether his death in the ring was inevitable. Either way, it's sad that this fight ruined two great fighters and their families.
youngunzvt 1 year ago
Why the fuck didn't that idiot stop the fight?
Vidike 1 year ago 2
@Vidike cuz the ref was known to call things to soon and the crowd would always boo him so its the national title fight man. what if you were that ref
maddog2t3 1 year ago
WTF is Norman Mailer talking about? It's the 15th round, Griffith is tired & he can't measure Paret because he doesn't have the strength. So he's throwing as many close uppercuts, as possible, trying to finish the guy. But where's the ref? Mailer tries to make him a hero when he's the culprit. Then, he's got Griffith's corner jumping in to save Paret. Are you kidding? He wants us to believe Griffith is an unrepentant, suicidal, killer like Gary Gilmore. Please. Mailer was just pure BS.
bondurango 1 year ago
damn that was worse then ray mercer beating on tommy morrison.
snoop11080 1 year ago
rest in piece cuba.
highcollide 1 year ago
Paret had a bit of a "keep hitting me/ I'm a tough guy" style and had taken some horrific beatings in his last few fights leading up to this one. He may have had a dangerous aneurysm before he even stepped into the ring that evening... There are other instances of people suddenly dying for the same reason.
It was the ref's responsibility to stop the fight even before Paret's head was between the ropes. The ref looked afraid of getting hit himself. Boo ref Goldstein.
nathanwilefrazier 1 year ago
I guess this is why refs stop the fight so easily now.
coupedehill 1 year ago
A jewish referee watching two blacks killing each other. What the fuck does he care.
whateverum 1 year ago
What horrible way to go. Every time I see this I feel so bad for Benny and his son.
OidrunkIrirshninja 1 year ago
@OidrunkIrirshninja
I can think of worse ways to go than a warrior dying in battle.
Strongboy1770 1 year ago
@Strongboy1770 I wouldn't exactly word it like that. It's a sport... Besides, I doubt he was feeling pride while he was being beaten to death.
OidrunkIrirshninja 1 year ago
@Strongboy1770 warrior? he wasn't fighting to protect his land or his people, he was fighting for a the hell of it, fighting to be payed, to be rich and famous.. thats how i see it anyway
asaw1994 1 year ago
@asaw1994 He might have decided to become a pro fighter to be rich, to be famous, to be PAID, but once he steps into that ring he's facing another strong, skilled fella trying to knock his head off. If he doesn't have the combat mindset, kill the other guy before he kills me, he won't do very well. That's why there's a ref in sport fighting. Unfortunately, this one didn't do his job.
Strongboy1770 1 year ago 9
@Strongboy1770
sorry it wasn't aware of the fact that you go into a boxing ring with a killing mindset. that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. it's a fighting sport not a combat sport, combat implying do whatever you can to survive. i do muy thai kick boxing and not once have i ever gone in the ring with this mindset of kill him before he kills me. retard.
elvishskills 9 months ago
@elvishskills
Your comment has opened up a whole new vista of stupid with a side-order of irony. I bet you a million dollars you are not a "muy thai" fighter but just boxing's version of one of those pathetic "YouTube War expert" kids.
Do us all a solid and don't breed please.
zyphoid666 6 months ago
@zyphoid666
Truly by simply insulting someone without offering any valid points whatsoever that you are in fact the expert in this situation.
Of course if this is a trolling attempt it is poor at best.
Boxing and muay thai are the same...pppppfffftttt I seriously hope you guys dont do this.
elvishskills 6 months ago
@elvishskills
Does anyone on the internet even know what trolling is anymore? Calling you out as some kid with Cheetos dust on his fingers being a "keyboard expert" and claiming to be in a combat sport but not approaching it with a "combat sport mindset" isn't trolling, it's calling you the retard that you are. There's a difference. You do about as much Muay Thai as I do nuclear physics.
Combat in a combat sport? It's more likely than you think...
zyphoid666 4 months ago
@zyphoid666
>implying i care at all currently
elvishskills 4 months ago
@Strongboy1770 Ruby Goldstein was one of the greatest referees of all-time. He is a member of the Hall of Fame. The only reason why he didn't rush in and stop the fight right away was because Paret was known as a guy who played possum. He would take hits, them come back and fire off a flurry.. but Paret hung on too long this time and he paid the ultimate price for it.
JGmartinezJr 8 months ago
@asaw1994 what a horrible thing to say, so that warrants being killed does it? your sick dude
lickstickly 1 year ago
@lickstickly going into a sport such as boxing you kind of have to expect the worst really, his own fault to be brutally honest.. you're*
asaw1994 1 year ago
@asaw1994 actually no your a dumbass, emile was forced to fight. he sold hats for a living tell someone found him and thought he had a boxers build. they were right and trained him. if you did any research you would know that emile even said he never wanted any of this its just all he knows now
maddog2t3 1 year ago
that was a good as whipping, but with deadly results.
redfeettube 1 year ago
It's so fucked up to think that we just watched a man get killed. Paret should have never called him a faggot, because Griffith would have never fought with such rage.
BooRikkaaa101 1 year ago
Mailer was wrong
dxx46 1 year ago
@dxx46 Wrong on what? Can you elaborate?
Strongboy1770 1 year ago
The easiest thing in the world is to blame the ref
But the last combination lasted 8-9 seconds?
The ref should've interfered because Paret was in the ropes
He should have made them break and had Griffith move to the center of the ring
Back then they didn't stop fights because a fighter was "in trouble"
toyotas2006 1 year ago
Rumor is at the Weigh - In, Paret called Griffith a faggot.
chinton90 1 year ago
@chinton90 I think we've been thru that already. That rumor was confirmed in the documentary "Ring of Fire." Whether the remark had anything to do with what transpired in the ring is debatable, but if it did I do NOT blame Griffith.
Strongboy1770 1 year ago
@chinton90 yeah thats true and he got so worked up about it he hated that word because people thought he was a gay and at the time it was like being called the N word just as bad, he took it to offence and its ashame to seee something like this happen but hes still breathing i herd he died not sure what to believe
guide2playingrs 1 year ago
Mailer sounds like Hemingway when was describing a corrida, but this was a fight between two human beings that resulted in a tragedy.
gianca60 1 year ago
@gianca60
Hemingway. A man's man. What a breath of fresh air in this pussified age. I think he was a fan of boxing too.
Strongboy1770 1 year ago
@Strongboy1770 He sure was a fan and a boxer too.
gianca60 1 year ago
Paret has collapsed from exhaustion?? Did this idiot commentator not see the 20 something unanswered vicious punches that landed flush on Paret's chin?
gonzomoya420 1 year ago 2
@gonzomoya420 my thoughts exactly
burger137 1 year ago
Ref was a little late.
So was Paret's corner.
brianallancobb 1 year ago
Ref should have stopped it a few seconds earlier, but I have seen some worse instances of a ref not stoping fight sooner. But what a tragedy; Paret was a great fighter, but this could have happened to any fighter. Griffith did no more than any other fighter when they are finishing off a foe that wont go down.
loyaldude10 1 year ago
You should check out the Sports Illustrated article at the time of this fight. Apparently Paret was known for facking being out just to bounce back and pum,mel his opponent. The ref knew that and wasn't buying Paret's unconsciousness.
chortle12345 1 year ago
what a magnificent row of punches!
impressive
tronbox 1 year ago 3
@tronbox sick. someone died bro. you are sick
fredd21ful 1 year ago
@tronbox i apologize about my earlier comment. i rather enjoyed your comment as well as the fight. i found your comment funny as well as clever. i am 27. i grew up on violent video games. funny comment bro. sad but i am not the only one who came to this website looking for blood.
fredd21ful 1 year ago
This fight, (3/24/62) and the Davey Moore death a year later, (3/21/63- also on U-Tube) almost killed boxing. The big difference between them is that Moore's death was a freak accident when he hit the back of his head on the rope. he was actually interviewed after the fight, (also on U-Tube). The ref in that one did nothing wrong. But here Ruby Goldstein stares at the action and does nothing, resulting in Paret's death.
44032 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Paret lived it was griffith that went into a coma and died
trankuser9 2 years ago
WTF are you smoking?
Strongboy1770 2 years ago 3
i agree with you WTF is he smoking
alykhan2006 1 year ago
I fink the ref ended it 2 soon
domfraud 2 years ago
Please remember that this fignt's end came relatively quickly, though it seems slow to us now. As someone said, refs tended to let fighters go longer then. Marciano would not have remained undefeated if the refs looked at his face and stopped fights. Also, Griffith was never known as a power puncher. He tended to win fights by using his superior boxing skills to gain decisions. I saw Griffith fight after this match, and he was never the same, as a fighter, or as a human being.
thechatterboxman 2 years ago 16
@thechatterboxman wrong paret would eat punches and retaliate he had amzing stamina it wassnt his boxing skill and was his speed and stamina that got to him and hes dead...
guide2playingrs 1 year ago
the ref got hit trying to pull him away fuck this is weak
Xkrebs 2 years ago
At about 0:15, the referee should have called for the bell. Absolute incompetence on the referee for letting Griffith beat Paret to death in the ring.
AEMoreira81 2 years ago
griffith was a stupid faggot
LilBlitz116 2 years ago
Fuck the ref !!
GoldenBoy50827 2 years ago 3
No is to blame but the ref. It's just absolute incompetence. He has a job to protect the fighters and he failed to do so. Paret takes 30 punches without responding, an idiot knows that he's out of the fight. I'd stop this at the point 11 seconds into this video.
thechosen2010 2 years ago 3
@thechosen2010 ur absolutely right. i would have stopped the fight much much much earlier. the ref did his part to kill paret.i mean, paret was out about 15 punches before the ref stopped the fight.
intothisall 2 years ago 2
It's hard to watch but that's professional boxing. usually boxers can stop but one can't rely on that. Sometimes the adrenaline takes over. I am usually very peaceful but I remember well the anger I had in my amateur fights in tae-kwen-do, the ref is there for a reason.
antoniocherry 2 years ago
The anger was justified. If you diss a pro fighter at a weigh-in the way Paret dissed Griffith, you better be prepared to face the consequences.
Strongboy1770 2 years ago 2
Bullshit. If Griffith knew Paret was unconscious, and continued attacking because of a word, he's a murderer. If he didn't know, then it was an accident. I don't know which is true. But there's no case where, even in a professional prize-fight, it's "justified" to brutalize an unconscious man because you aren't happy with the way he spoke to you.
SydneyOneSixThree 2 years ago
he did what box tell boxers to do, to hit until referees stop the fight, it was totally the referees fault, thats what they are for, in every kind of fight matches, nothing justifies brutality, just cuz one wants to kill another for being called maricon
madbeatle82 2 years ago
@SydneyOneSixThree - Legally, if a fighter is still on his feet without anything other than the soles of his feet touching the canvas, then the opponent is allowed to continue to hit until the ref either verbally tells the fighter to stop or the ref physically intervenes to stop the fight.
Morally, however, a fighter that continues to hit an unconscious opponent like that could be considered a murderer. Just not legally.
comedicstuff 1 year ago
That ref HAD to have lost his job over this.
It was an asshole move on Griffith's part to continue punching the guy when he's clearly out cold, but fight stoppage is 100% the responsibility of the ref.
The REF is the one with complete presence of mind and situational awareness; HE'S the one in charge.
It seems many times in older bouts (anywhere between 1930 and 1970), the refs would allow boxers to beat each other to death's door.
This is really sad to see. Poor guy.
FSMNoodlyAppendage 2 years ago 3
@FSMNoodlyAppendage Ruby Goldstein refereed one more fight, then retired.
ihatelifejosemartine 2 years ago
The guy's clearly dead. I don't believe that coma theory they said just to save the day. Even in a coma, you're still breathing and the guy's chest is not even moving one bit. The "poetic" comments after the first part are really inappropriate. Both Griffith and the referee are to blame. Griffith because he killed the guy and the referee because he let him do it.
Vervello 2 years ago 2
@Vervello
Sure, like Griffith was a doctor and should have made that determnation in the heat of battle. It's the ref's job to stop things when someone's out on his feet, and the ref didn't step in until Paret took about a dozen unanswered blows to the head. It's a FIGHT; it isn't tap dancing.
Strongboy1770 2 years ago
Some boxers have enough strength of character to stop when they're beating their opponent, but most of them are just mindless punchers like that Griffith. Go see the video of turk15 " 10 most brutal knockouts", most of them are just savage beatings but if you look to ko no.3, the guy was asking the referee to stop the fight because he was clearly beating his opponent. Griffith only wanted revenge because Parret called him a "fagget". If you can't dominate yourself, your place is not in a ring.
Vervello 2 years ago