New setup to explore acceleration-under-load.

[TinselKoala]

You are spinning your wheels.

Doing a very nice job of it, but still.... spinning your wheels.

When you get your oscilloscope we can talk more about how to do correct power measurements, and I may be able to show you a reliable way to measure your mechanical torque output.

Don't you think it's interesting that you cut your input power by 2/3 and got more torque by going to a commercially available DC motor rather than using a Bedini motor arrangement?

Personally, I think that's hilarious.

[deepcut66]

@TinselKoala Thanks TK :) Ye i LOL'd a lot with the DC motor vs Bedini ! I'll be sure to pick your brain when i get the scope.

[Khwartz]

@TinselKoala

With or without oscilloscope, if no linear charge, like resistor in series with each coils, it's means nothing in term of power (not voltage, but A*V). Otherwise it's like taking voltage on a battery without load... but thanks for sharing your experiment any way, I'm interested in your replication, if of course you could check as I propose to you (an no need of expensive oscillo for that ;) ).

Cheers.

[zebok3]

Very exciting! Remember, if it ain't broke don't fix it..

[UrCoffeeTastesToasty]

I think this is a great improvement! You show you know what you're on about.

I have a thought about those coils: the requirements for AUL are; the inductance has to be high, lots of turns and high impedance, OK. But the coupling could still increase for the magnets are at a big distance from the bottom wire of the coil.

An idea I have is to have lots of highly coupled coils in series, do you think maybe we could get even more power out and AUL aswell?

JP

[deepcut66]

@UrCoffeeTastesToasty Thanks JP, i spoke with Thane and he says i should have them connected in parallel so will convert over and try.

[UrCoffeeTastesToasty]

@deepcut66

Yes right in this setup that would do great, I'm sure!

I was wondering though, if you were to wind a new set of coils & they have all a lower impedance 50 ohm. All coils induced by their own magnet, then added in series to form a "single" coil of that same 400 ohms (so 8 highly magnetic coupled coils).

My question to you: with the similarity of the impedance, would that setup than also have a speed up or do the dimensions of the coil matter?

JP

[deepcut66]

@UrCoffeeTastesToasty Well more coils is more cores so even if the AUL effect was still there then overall output would be lower.

[UrCoffeeTastesToasty]

@deepcut66

Nah, more cores true & more magnetic surface area & higher magnetic density per turn and per ohms. Negative maybe the cogging, although since the generator turns into a motor that might help alot.

[deepcut66]

@UrCoffeeTastesToasty That's all true, also the odd/even coil/magnet strategy. So many effing variables i wish i had a formlua ! I'm testing a little coil just now and it's doing really well. Unconnected RPM is 1713, current draw is 665 mA, when i short it the RPM is 1833 and the current draw is 595 mA.

[TheSolarSolsticeWave]

If you have a mobil charger or any charger that convert 230Vac to 5 Vdc you can rewire it and use it in reverse. That may give you what you need and that is lower volts and higher amps.

Hope that help out abit ^^

Peace!

VZ2DAY

[deepcut66]

@TheSolarSolsticeWave Ye i tried that yesterday and it wasn't quite the right output, just a few hundred mA too low :( I see you like Marley :) Man i used to listen to reggae and ska all the time, love toots and the maytals :)

[TheSolarSolsticeWave]

@deepcut66

Oke, i see. just a few hundreds to low :)

Hmmm, if with 3 coils you had 440ish vdc so why not set them up in parallel.

Than you should have like 145ish volt dc with 36 ma...:)

And than try that reverse charge thingy again ^^

Reggae and ska are awesome to listen to...my favorite are the oldskol bob marley where you every crack and noise in the background.

Man, wish i was on the beach now with my boombox ^^

Cheers, hope you get it this time.

Peace!

VZ2DAY

[TheSolarSolsticeWave]

@deepcut66

Oops, just saw that the tip on parallel was already given to you -.-

Sorry about that :)

Peace!

VZ2DAY

[deepcut66]

@TheSolarSolsticeWave LOL no worries mate, it's all good :)

[TheSolarSolsticeWave]

Hi there,

Nice video on the progress on delaying lenz :)

Looking at your coils they must be high ohm ones like in the > 250.

If i may ask are those aircore or with ferrite cores or some kind of iron ^^

Now if you can add more coils and still get that effect than your on the right path.

Rpm sound like >3000 , sweet.

Peace!

VZ2DAY

[deepcut66]

@TheSolarSolsticeWave

all coils about 400 ohms, inductance greater than 20 Henries.

cores are laminated, 13 plates, each 0.35mm thick, 12mm wide and 55mm long.

RPM about 1750. 24 magnets on rotor gives about 700 hz frequency.

[TheSolarSolsticeWave]

@deepcut66

400 ohm o.O thats very high. No wonder you get sucha high voltage and low current :)

A good transformer is what you need now mate.

The highest i have is i think 360ohm or something

Laminated cores you say, oke. I think i have something like that.

High permeability and low core losses ^^

I give it a try with my 360ish ohm coil and around 2000rpm with a 24 magnets rotor setup. Oh boy, another one on the to do list -.-

Thanks for the info, much appriciated :)

Peace!

VZ2DAY

[deepcut66]

@TheSolarSolsticeWave Thanks Solar. Ye i've ordered an AC-DC adapter that has a good range and good output. The laminations i got were ten quid for 40 slices, well worth getting from ascocomponents.co.uk. They are E160 M6 35 G.O. (grain oriented) 'I' laminations. They increased the induction HUGELY. I then noticed that when they had spaces between them (i put about 13 in each coil) the inductance went up even more, i used toilet paper to space them.

[TheSolarSolsticeWave]

@deepcut66

Thanks for the info on the core. I`ll try ferrite first since i have a whole bunch of those.

Yes, having the right core material is very important.

Increased induction and a must have is very low Coercivity of that material ^^

Peace!

VZ2DAY

[waseatenbyagrue]

Yes it is me. Good luck with your research!

[Edmorbus]

Thanks for sharing

[waseatenbyagrue]

Only 3 views? Come on, you have reached overunity and your invention will surely save the world. How come no one knows?

[deepcut66]

@waseatenbyagrue Hi is that you from OUR ?

Well i only just put this up and i have no scope yet to do power measurements that are generally acceptable.

[deepcut66]

@waseatenbyagrue And the (human) world is WAY beyond saving, especially by litle old me ;+}