Not all capitalism is the same. The Henry Ford mindset of paying workers well created the middle-class of yesterday's Detroit, but Cannibal Capitalism created today's Detroit. You should read the book Cannibal Capitalism and see how capitalism can be harnessed in the public interest.
I'm high too, why is it that I start thinking about this stuff when I'm high... it sucks. I'm going back to watching old episodes of yogi bear. that shit still holds up today.
also, as humans we grow in exponentially, in science and technology. Better systems will be had soon, not now, not in your lifetime, but soon, relatively speaking. 100 years from now will appear bizarre to us now... humans are instinctively progressive... combine that with exponential growth... and humanity is destined for something that we now cannot comprehend. for now, however, capitalism is what we have, enjoy it. because I'm hopeful of the future, the future could be just the opposite.
also, capitalism leads to the progressiveness of that society. the only way to currently progress our way of thinking and our sciences is through the present capitalist systems. so capitalism is the way to go... for now.
the problem with capitalism is that it can lead to hedonism, how ever the problem with communism is that i deprives people of individual freedoms... so the answer to these problems lays somewhere in between these two ideals... the nice thing about america is that the people have the power to change this... since capitalism seems to work, we stick with it. I'm sure something else will come along in the future but, until it's broke, why fix it?
I find it rather ironic that a person would post an anit-capitalist video on a website that he would not be able to do without the capitalist system...I guess some people just can't see ignorance 3 inches in front of their face....
The problem is, business owners profit from your labour because you agree to it. The simple answer is to start your own business and keep 100% of the profit. Duh.
If capitalism only works for the rich, why 2 million people legally moved in US in 2009 alone? How many illegally nobody knows (20-22 million). Are all those people too stupid to figure out what's good for them?
@ssmusic214 Have you ever heard of a story of a mexican worker who came in US to live the american dream and only found american nightmare? Well, now you know why they came.
@TheBlindPowerslave I heard all kinds of stories. But the fact is: Anybody who doesn't like to live under capitalism in USA is perfectly free to move anywhere, anytime, for any reason or without any reason.
@ssmusic214 No walls? You can be stuck in USA if you don't have the money to get out and it's more effective than walls. And even if they returned they would only be changing the shithole they are living in. It's easy to create useless solutions while you are living in your little bourgeois neighborhood far away from the harsh truth.
@TheBlindPowerslave Ridiculous! I don't remember Communists paying anybody's way who want's to leave the country. On the contrary they do not allow anybody to take out ANYTHING of value even if it is your PERSONAL property. And if you ever seen "working class" neighborhood in USSR you'd understand what kind of nonsense you are blabbing.
@ssmusic214 USSR? Why are we talking about USSR? Don't change the conversation. I give you a good critic of capitalism and you just throw USSR card at me like a desperate liberal. USSR is gone and you better keep that in mind.
It is you are the one who's changing conversation beyond any sense and logic. Which country in the world pays people to immigrate abroad? Which country provides better living standard to the working people? Your "critic" is absolutely senseless unless you provide a better alternative.
@ssmusic214 Which country provides better living standarts to the working people? European countries most certainly (I don't know for how long though). They offer better living standarts than any other country. I would laugh if you say that US does. It's a country without social security. Instead they abuse the taxpayers' money and invest it on weapons. My critic was a good one and your attempts to dodge it failed.
@TheBlindPowerslave Halooo..... I live in US! And my standard of living is beyond anything I've seen in USSR,
Austria and Italy. And providing social security is none of the government business, but building the weapons IS! That's what the government is for in the first place.
@TheBlindPowerslave Most euro nations are also facing massive budget short and stagnate economics, far worse than the US, due there unsustainable economic programs.
@TheBlindPowerslave Most euro nations are also facing massive budget shortfalls and stagnate economics, far worse than the US, due there unsustainable economic programs such as universal healthcare.
@TheBlindPowerslave this doesnt actually disprove anything i ve said. Your comment is actually just a confession that you cant argue with my statement. Look at nations such as Greece, Spain, Portugual, England and Ireland they have huge debt problems. In nations such as hungary and poland they they are seizing citizens private poensions to make up for government shortfalls.
@SuperWilly33 I don't have to disprove anything because you haven't proven something. You didn't explain the reasons why healthcare is an unsutainable economic program which is like saying "I believe in Big Foot because I know it exists, even if there is no proof that it actually exsists." The same goes with what you said in your second argument. Have a nice day.
@TheBlindPowerslave Yea my response to your cliam the Euro nations have higher stantdards of living standards for working ppl was that the social nets they offer are un-sustainable based on there massive budget shortfall. You havent offered any response other than saying it rediculous (your response is a big foot argument). You have just conceded that my point is accurate. You have not even attempted to argue it.
@SuperWilly33 Wow! You sure have missed some english lessons, along with a decent education it seems. Anyway, you are saying the same shit but still based on a big nothing. What makes you think EU countries have budget deficiency?
@TheBlindPowerslave do you live under a rock? Did your education fail to teach to pay attention to world events? Have you not heard of the Greek and irish financial meltdowns? They have had to make deep cuts into there social programs and still required loans total 177 billion Euros. Spain has had to do the same as well. Portugal is expected to need a 70 to 80 billion euros from the EU to meet its obligations. The EU has had to approve a 1 trillion dollar rescue program for its nations.
@SuperWilly33 Haha so Greece and Ireland are part of european union? Well they are officially but unoficially only the important countries matters. France, England and Germany are the main powers and they did nothing to help those countries because it's exactly what they want. Now those countries are their slaves because they owe a shit load of money to germany and france. I do not dare to call it a rescue program ffs...
@TheBlindPowerslave You really are a dip shit. 1) greece and ireland illustrate that there social safety nets are unsustainable, the reactions of other nations is irrelevant (2) England has massive budget short falls there healthcare system faces shortfalls of 10 billion pounds and an overall budget shortfall of about 274 billion dollars for 2010. (3) France's budget deficit for 2010 was 229 billion dollars.
@SuperWilly33 The situation US is in now, a country with no credible social security, faces the same economic disaster as european countries because of capitalist economy. When it grows it becomes unsustainable because it is not a system based on reality. It consumes all resources but there is a limit, always. Us spent 700 billion to help its economy in 2008. Triple of countries with universal healthcare. Your arguments are invalid. Now I expect you to vanish, Willy, along with your existence.
@TheBlindPowerslave 1) the US runs a deficit due to wars. it is not related to capitalism 2) Capitalism is the only economic system that operates in reality by using the market forces of supply and demand. Ex. as oil becomes more scare the market reacts by sending the price up forcing consumers to find alternatives. 3) Bailouts are not a capitalist action. they are socialist measures. By pointing out that they ineffective you are arguing my point dumb ass.
@SuperWilly33 You don't support social policies and you don't support aggresive policies. What do you want exactly? You'll have to apply one of them eventually. Secondly capitalism is a monopoly (a generalization) in which real goods are traded with money, which is a piece of paper (fairly cheap and abundant), thus real goods are also considered abundant regardless of their limits because money has value not the goods. Thirdly the word you seek is nationalization not bailouts. Fat stupid fuck...
@TheBlindPowerslave FAIL 1) Minimal government interference. You dont have to apply social polices or aggresive polices. 2) Yes paper is abundant, but paper with value attached to it (money) is not abundant. You (TheBlindDumbSlave) cannot create money. Real goods are not considered abundant thats why price rises as supply diminishes. Ex. Oil, diamonds, the hot christmas gift. (learn about basic economics Ex. Supply curves and demand curves). 3) No i meant bailouts are not capitalist measures.
@SuperWilly33 Even if a country has no or little gvmt. interference you still have to apply a policy which is required to run a country. Money is created out of nothing you ask the cetral bank of a country and they'll print you the sum you want. One thing you don't consider is the money is created with debt. Which means when you borrow money from the bank you borrow it at interest which means you have to pay more than you borrowed. I will explain below what it has to do with ressources.
@TheBlindPowerslave No central banks will not just print money if i ask. Yes money is more or less created out of nothing, but it not worth nothing because it has a value attached to it by society. Money is not debt. You have fallen victim to conspiracies about the fractional researve banking system. You pay interest as a cost of doing business. 1) so the bank has an incentive to lend. (why would they just give away there money) 2) to cover inflation (which purposely exists for econ growth)
@TheBlindPowerslave The FED dumb ass. It is then given value by societies recognition that it can be traded for goods. This question is irrelevant to the discussion of capitalism because capitalism doesn't need a fiat monetary system. It could function in a barter system. Basically you are barking up the wrong tree. You have not responded to any of my points. Why? I know 1) they are logical, as opposed to yours 2) you know nothing about economic systems and are a poser commie.
@SuperWilly33 You have proven my point yourself. The question is realated to capitalism because today capitalist economies cannot work without money, unless you suggest that the capitalist system in use today has not evolved at all, which would be one fucking stupid suggestion. If you can't to see the logic in this, it is your failure, not mine. Also answer this; Does the FED gives money for free or do they give it at interest?
@SuperWilly33 Money you have is borrwed from a bank which gave it to you at interest. This interest is bigger than the value of the sum you have borrowed and it is impossible to pay this debt right in the beginning. Even if you do pay someone else will not be able to do it and this means everyone will get bankrupt sometime in the future. And since trade is made by money the good have no importance and if your bankrupt what you own is now the proprety of the one who lent you the money.
@TheBlindPowerslave FAIL. You know nothing about banking/economics. No the money i have was not barrowed. You basing this on the false presumption everyone is 100% in debt. No not everyone wil go bankrupt. You can earn money without going into debt dumbass. Interest is want you pay so you can buy things you cant afford now. You take a loan betting you will be able to pay it off with interest on your salary or if it is a business loan the future profits of you company.
@SuperWilly33 And as seen in the world today the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few thousand which is why it is a monopoly where you have no liberty. You are a wage slave living to consume and die. Your life is a onw way ticket to hell. Remember “You can protect your liberties in this world only by protecting the other man's freedom. You can be free only if I am free.” which is why capitalism is not liberty but slavery.
@TheBlindPowerslave FAIL. It is not a monopoly becasue i can earn become wealtly and not have to work. I have enough money that i could chose to not work for the rest of my life. Lets say we did live in a early agrarian society. You have to choose to work to produce food and shelter or die or be excommunicated in essence death. In a communist society if everyone decides not to work you die. This allows less liberty you cant make enought money to not have to work.
@ssmusic214 The Berlin wall was around 100 mi., cost $3+ bil., with 100-200 dead; while US border wall is 500-700+ mi., cost tax payers untold billions with corps profiting thru contracts, w/ over 5000 dead, trapping economic refugees in Mex. stemming from FTA's. The US, world, (and the USSR, China, Nazi's) run a failed state-capitalist economy, now in crisis. The US has travel restrictions, no free to move! Nordic states like Sweden have the higher living standards...US #1 in child poverty tho!
I'll say this much: I think capitalism is the one reason many countries currently enjoy the standards of living we enjoy now. (compared to even 150 years ago, when most nations and their mothers were 3rd world countries, right?) If not capitalism, what other system has history proven to improve nation prosperity as successfully? That said, I think if your stats are an accurate reflection of reality, the rules for the game DO need a serious makeover so the wealth is enjoyed more evenly.
Capitalist systems have vast middle classes. The disparity between the poorest and wealthiest is greater than in socialism, but the overall standard of living for the majority is greater.
You are saying wealthy people like it's a whole other race and you can never be it. There are so many stories of rags to riches. With something other than capitalism, when you actually start making money it gets taken away from you. With capitalism, you can work hard and you will be rewarded greatly.
@Fidlestyx - That crap's been spewed from all of your kind for far too long. Do you honestly think that, for example, the people in Africa under Capitalist rule are nothing but lazy slobs? These people struggle to get by every day, and their honest-to-God efforts get them nowhere and gain them no reward but the possibility of potentially being granted enough money or food to get by another day.
Under Capitalism, hard work isn't rewarded, it's exploited.
The problem isn't blacks, but the divisive methods the owning class use to divide the working class. The inner city black, Mexican migrant worker, and redneck (excuse the pejorative term) NASCAR fan all have a similar class struggle and interests.
It is true that the working class has poor role models such as the rappers you mentioned, but a group of executives had to have organized to agree to approve of, fund, and market such violent, profane trash.
I have heard that schools in the inner city have classes that teach students how to be carpenters or mechanics (i.e.: classes with saws in them) and even have military courses. Such classes aim to track said individuals into blue collar professions and thus act to exacerbate working class oppression. Abolishing said classes should help with a greater emphasis on SAT, SAT II, essay, and interview prep in high school and SSAT prep in middle school.
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS whats wrong with the schools? the funding. the teachers (sometimes). resources. commitment in part of the district and faculty. you get a different education in a predominantly white school. Why? because more resources are being poured in there. more programs and what not.
you know how many AP classes were offered in my high school? 2
you know how many AP classes are offered in richer high schools? 10+
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS some would say the KKK started violence against ppl of color.
and i cant do anything to take away your hatred. i can, however, say that hatred continues to perpetuate violence FROM BOTH SIDES. if you treat people as sub-human, then you will get more hatred from the other side. and thats how it all goes. hatred feeds on hatred. keep it up!
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS "Didn't the inequality in the U.S start growing alot right after the creation of the welfare sttate?"
not really. inequality was really bad before FDR. the welfare state made it possible for many who were poor before to actually move up ahead in between generations. the statement: "If a farmer is a better farmer & grows more crops he has more crops to sell & therefor has more wealth." is therefore false before FDR. a farmer could not compete with huge corporations
whites enslaved blacks for centuries. They segregated people. they have made law that benefitted whites at the expense of blacks.
im not condoning their actions. but its quite interesting to see how whites are now in the position to understand how bad they themselves treat blacks. the mistake of both sides is to see the problem of race as black vs. white. this is what perpetuates the violence from both sides.
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS as a white person, this statement comes easy for you. when you see the schools people of color come from, then maybe you'll understand how bad it is for a great number of blacks who are capable of meeting the challenge are systematically being disadvantaged. not just as a poor person, but as a person of color.
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS so im guessing ur father's experience was the experience of all the white folk in s. bronx?
the white experience is much different than the black experience. this is the tricky part. cause not only is it hard for you to succeed if you're poor but also if you're black/colored. if you're a woman, even harder!
these are things that people dont get. they think that the inequality present in the US is natural. it isnt tho. its a product of social imagination and consequent law
70,000 income? you do know poor people make much less than that. and because they probably live in areas where things are as expensive as they are in your area, then they struggle more than you. you simply dont know how bad it is for poor folks to make ends meet which is why you make an assumption that they are "blessed"
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS you should check out the social and economic mobility between those "socialist" countries vs. the US. US is very middle of the road
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS you cant base the US on other countries. For one, the cost of living in all those countries is much lower than here. Second, just because u think blacks here are doing "better" than elites in other countries (you're mistaken if you do) that doesnt mean things dont have to change.
The African American income is much less than that just so u know.
when my great grandmother came here there were help wanted signs that said irish need not apply.now my family are millionaires.only in america and its evil capitalist system would this be possible.
i agree on the idea of capitalism as working only for the rich. but i think that this only works true for the type of capitalism that is unregulated. in other words, if you regulate the market, then you will have more people, people who would otherwise be displaced by the powerful, rich classes, participating.
going all the way to communism like all the comments here seem to suggest is too much for me. marx's idea of transitioning into communism will never happen
I just don't get what people don't like with communism/sociamlism. They seem to think that in a communism everyone are poor and the state are trying to put you in some sort of Gulag. Sure, in communism there are no rich, but everyone have food on their table and a home to live in.
The Rich Minority wishes for one thing - To preserve its wealth and power. The Status Quo and profit is more important to them than human dignity. The Capitalist system is a Mode of Survival for the Rich.
There is a looming global economic insurrection in the future, as proletariats realize their majority and use their power in the form of production and work and will take back what is rightfully theirs.
i agree, i for example have a low income job at macdonalds and have a hard time saving up money because of bills, dental payments, food, rent, etc., while those owning businesses get richer and richer while the rest of us have to struggle, low income jobs in general are more stressful to work in and we earn way less.
@dermatlmann So, try getting a better job. It will not make your situation any better if you punish your employer. It is not like someone getting rich takes anything from you. Right now you have options to improve your life. In a communist system you wouldn't. It looks lots better on paper than it does in practice. Take a look at Cuba. Yea, people are closer to equal but nobody has anything.
Greedy executives rolling in piles of stolen cash. No person is worth the obscene salary & bonuses paid to executives, especially banks. The execs at a company I'm with cause so much of a mess every day it's pathetic. Their stupid, greedy, impulsive shoot from the hip mentality is why we're in such an economic mess. None of em' are worth ten-cents. No company can benefit from fat cat CEOs & VPs thieving profits. It's disgusting how incompetence & greed continues to destroy millions of families.
Well, alot of great capitalists didn't start out rich. They might have become rich by say, selling a product people want, or providing a service people want. Start poor, do something smart, get rich.
yes but the problem is to deliver that service in a capitalist system and create profit (and thus keep delivering it) he is going to have to screw over other people to get there. imagine if everyone in the world started poor, did something, got rich. it wouldnt work, what i mean is for everyone who gets rich, thats multiple people getting poorer.
You don't get it. That's not how it works. The only reason it works that way is because the federal reserve is taking away your ressources, and replacing it with paper. In a free market there would not be a federal reserve. Therefore all ressources would represent themselves. To be blunt, you actually have socialism, and you are experiencing what socialism really is about, state sponsored corporate monopolies taking away what you have through the use of "law" and violence. Capitalism works.
i dont have the federal reserve because im scottish, my country, and the USA, have some elements of socialism but are still almost all capitalist, and im not talking as small scale as you here im talking about the whole thing, for someone to be rich there is always going to be someone who is poor, if you have 2 cups of water each half full and one cup decides its going to be full then wheres the water coming from? you get me?
You still have a central bank. Since you have a federal sponsored central bank, you're going to get someone replacing your ressources with paper, with which when the music stops, people go under. Because the paper doesn't back anything up. Upon printing, the very first dollars printed have the fullest buying power, with which it can purchase ressources. Then the paper depreciates, no longer being pegged to the ressource the banks have bought. Meaning, the poor ar the ones the music stopped on.
Agreed. But, free market forces apply even if people choose to collectively ignore it. This is why communism destroyed Russia, people didn't know the price of goods, they didn't know instinctively where there opportunities were, so they wasted time in other areas than where they should be, creating famins, deaths, scarcity. The only thing it could support was the top, and the wars. But not it's own workers, it collapsed under it's own weight. Socialism is the same.
firstly russia was only ever a communist nation by name, it was stalinist, secondly the masses found themselves working for a small group of peoples benefit instead of their own. yeah again its got to be all the way or no way, one country of communists (or stalinists, in soviet russia's case) in a sea of capitalists will not work that well.
Either system cannot work with a government. And communism is nowhere near as efficient as capitalism. Efficiency means that you can over-produce, then relax later. Work nothing but a couple hours, then get back home. If you're interested in anarcho communism, you might want to check out the venus project. Either system, i'm fine, really. My goal is to make people understand why statism cannot work.
"The benefits of economic growth have been largely enjoyed by high income families."
I couldn't have said it better myself. Large incomes rock. Soon I hope to be getting a very decent income boost with a new job. Who could object to that?
first things first, on the topic of orwell, one must remember that he was a VERY active communist and actually fought with the marxist in spain 1936 so his books are not critiques of communism but rather authoritarianism. the flaws of his dytopias are in no way characteristics of communist. If people want to live with freedom ppl must be responsible and ensure democracy in any society. we are not born capitalist b/c capitalist steal their money. communist earn each penny
Animal Farm failed because of corruption, Not Capitalism or Socialism. The principle of self interest helps determine the Laws of Supply and Demand. Those are natural laws just like gravity and can not be denied. Try to deny gravity and jump off a cliff you still die, same with Laws of Supply and Demand. We were all born capitalists, demonstrated by the fact out of self interest we took our first breath. If the majority would deal with corruption instead of treating it like mental kryptonite.
Dont you see? More regulation and moves to socialism only help the rich disrupt the true price system and doom the masses. Why does europe experience little to no economic growth even with increased purchasing parity of the euro, and moderate inflation? The government pushes the wealth to the extreme top, its obvious.
Our society is shaped by the System into a steep pyramid with a few excessively privileged and powerful people at the top and a huge vertical drop to the bottom where people lead lives of deprivation and desperation. This shape is in contrast to the expectation after World War II, that America would become a country with a large and prosperous middle class and no extreme contrasts between rich and poor. This extreme inequality, destroys community and threatens society.
How correct is that... Capitalism is only for the rich, as the rich either oppress the poor or the foreign. This is the prime cause of imperialism and the atrocities caused by it. I am not a communist, but nice video! Continue to attack the evil that plagues the world, which is materialism.
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Capitalism works a lot better, it's the natural way to go. Kill or be killed makes the best rise to the top, and the worst flounder till they disappear. And because of our short lives, it constantly shifts to fit into new generations. I love it.
under your "natural way" i guess i can come to your house, kill you, take your stuff and eat your children: "Kill or be killed makes the best rise to the top" ???
What a crap ideal society that is. That's how to breed guard dogs not humans.
Yes, rich are parasites! Rich are fools, for they do not follow the teachings in places such as Ecclesiastes 5:8-17, Deuteronomy 15:1-18, 23:20, et al. Survival of the fittest only benefits the rich as it allows them to sacrifice their ethics in the altar of luxury and hedonism.
The thing that's missing here is that there is no General difference between Capitalism and communism. One puts power in the hands of the Government, which as we see in every single communist country out there so far, is corrupt, and the other puts the power in the Rich, who by the way can't take away our rights to fight them or take them down like communism does. Owning land is a right of every human being, and can only truly be taken away in a Communist government, not Capitalism.
Materialist fool! The rich won't do anything with the wealth except expand their own empire, buy luxuries for themselves, and go to charity to hide their heinous crimes, ignorant of the fact that they won't be taking any of their wealth when they die.
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ComradeFlorian28 is just a POOR FRUSTRATED IMBECILE who actually belives that the working class can come to power... HE IS RETARDED !!! He belongs in a hospital !
As I said, it will only hurt the AMERICAN workers by depriving them of allies. As long as there are capitalists, they can always find new sources of cheap labour, but it would be very difficult for American workers to find new allies.
Just another stat, 19% of Americans think that they are in the 1% income bracket. I wonder if this 18% are also the ones who think bush is doing a bang up job.
Fascists are usually members of Wealthy Classes like the Middle Class,Upper Class, and Rich.And they blame all the problems in a Country on Different groups of people without offering any solutions to the problems they point out.Sounds more like you.
heil comrade? ROFL!!! Heil is what Hitler's people used as a salute which they borrowed from the Roman Empire's Hail Ceaser.What does that have to do with Communism? And the only one who complains so far is you, you blame everything on the Mexicans when the Economy is garbage because you do nothing to fight the crooked Corporations and Elitists who are destroying it.
Illegal invasion? your opinion is so biased that it doesn't count. You can't debate and realize that you were wrong or even see another point of view." Funny, I was just about to say the same thing about you.I await your message.
There hasnt been an "illegal" invasion in years, just the ones the Colonists did with this Country and if your not Racist why dont you try to debate me on it sometime and prove your not.Of course I'm more than sure you dont have the balls to do it.
ComradeFlorian28, i would say the same thing about the poor, but that`s allready happening.. and it will happen forever :D , the poor don`t have a place in this world, but the rich DO
The poor dont have a place in the World because the Rich steals from everyone to create they're own Empire, therefore the Rich must be exterminated like the Vermin they are.
A supply and demand market only controls the prices of goods and services, that's all.
In communism, the gov controls the production and distribution of everything. That's not good either. Russia was paying Cuba $5/pound for sugar. Here in the USA at that time sugar was selling for less than $1/pound.
Communism does not believe in Government control of the Market,it believes in the People's Control of the Market, and Capitalism is an ideology in which money controls everything including Politics.That's not Democracy, that's Plutoacracy.
That is what communism is, the gov controls production and distribution of all goods & services. Their is no market. No one knows what a pound of sugar (for example) should really cost since the gov controls it. It's still open to corruption at the top and on down. That is one of the problems I have with communism.
Communism is when the people themselves control what the Prices are of everything and how the Businesses should be run as opposed to Capitalism where the Government and Businessmen decide everything.
The people can not control prices. In the sugar example, the people can say, OK, I only want to pay 10cents a pound today. There is no way to figure out the true cost of goods produced.
The gov doesn't control prices in Capitalism.
Supply and demand control prices. I'm sure greed plays a part somewhere in larger operations/corporations.
The people can not control the Prices under Capitalism, but with Communism it would be a totally different society.And no one ever said that in Capitalism the Government controls the Prices,in fact the first thing that we say is that the one thing that seperates Capitalism from other Tyrannical Ideologies is that the Elites control the Government and Economy and Society as a whole.
I look at the communist countries. They are all "Tyrannical". Half the population starves and the elites at the top do very well. So in some respects, Capitalism and Communism are the same.
Brother these are Right-Wing Dictatorships disguised as Communism, and they dont have any Elites, they have lowly Beucrats that follow the Stalinist Dictator.Yes Stalinist Countries and Capitalist Countries are both Equally Fucked over.
Not all capitalism is the same. The Henry Ford mindset of paying workers well created the middle-class of yesterday's Detroit, but Cannibal Capitalism created today's Detroit. You should read the book Cannibal Capitalism and see how capitalism can be harnessed in the public interest.
Nuuzman 1 month ago
I'm high too, why is it that I start thinking about this stuff when I'm high... it sucks. I'm going back to watching old episodes of yogi bear. that shit still holds up today.
a2r1v1i2s 5 months ago
also, as humans we grow in exponentially, in science and technology. Better systems will be had soon, not now, not in your lifetime, but soon, relatively speaking. 100 years from now will appear bizarre to us now... humans are instinctively progressive... combine that with exponential growth... and humanity is destined for something that we now cannot comprehend. for now, however, capitalism is what we have, enjoy it. because I'm hopeful of the future, the future could be just the opposite.
a2r1v1i2s 5 months ago
also, capitalism leads to the progressiveness of that society. the only way to currently progress our way of thinking and our sciences is through the present capitalist systems. so capitalism is the way to go... for now.
a2r1v1i2s 5 months ago
the problem with capitalism is that it can lead to hedonism, how ever the problem with communism is that i deprives people of individual freedoms... so the answer to these problems lays somewhere in between these two ideals... the nice thing about america is that the people have the power to change this... since capitalism seems to work, we stick with it. I'm sure something else will come along in the future but, until it's broke, why fix it?
a2r1v1i2s 5 months ago
Poor people can become rich in America. That's only because Capitalism allows it. If you don't see this you're not worthy to live in America.
MarbReb 6 months ago
@MarbReb You are not worthy to live anywhere in the universe.
darknight651 5 months ago
I find it rather ironic that a person would post an anit-capitalist video on a website that he would not be able to do without the capitalist system...I guess some people just can't see ignorance 3 inches in front of their face....
TheManInTheMasks 7 months ago
This video title is true.
Capitialism is for the rich and the relatively well off because they benefit the most from it.
This is the way is is and it always will be.
MultiSmartass1 8 months ago
Death to Capitalism Viva la Revolution!
NickMrozonka 9 months ago
The problem is, business owners profit from your labour because you agree to it. The simple answer is to start your own business and keep 100% of the profit. Duh.
idedesign 11 months ago 2
hooray for capitalism
lambofwassy2 1 year ago
If capitalism only works for the rich, why 2 million people legally moved in US in 2009 alone? How many illegally nobody knows (20-22 million). Are all those people too stupid to figure out what's good for them?
ssmusic214 1 year ago
@ssmusic214 Have you ever heard of a story of a mexican worker who came in US to live the american dream and only found american nightmare? Well, now you know why they came.
TheBlindPowerslave 1 year ago
@TheBlindPowerslave I heard all kinds of stories. But the fact is: Anybody who doesn't like to live under capitalism in USA is perfectly free to move anywhere, anytime, for any reason or without any reason.
There are no Berlin Walls around USA.
ssmusic214 1 year ago
@ssmusic214 No walls? You can be stuck in USA if you don't have the money to get out and it's more effective than walls. And even if they returned they would only be changing the shithole they are living in. It's easy to create useless solutions while you are living in your little bourgeois neighborhood far away from the harsh truth.
TheBlindPowerslave 1 year ago
@TheBlindPowerslave Ridiculous! I don't remember Communists paying anybody's way who want's to leave the country. On the contrary they do not allow anybody to take out ANYTHING of value even if it is your PERSONAL property. And if you ever seen "working class" neighborhood in USSR you'd understand what kind of nonsense you are blabbing.
ssmusic214 1 year ago
@ssmusic214 USSR? Why are we talking about USSR? Don't change the conversation. I give you a good critic of capitalism and you just throw USSR card at me like a desperate liberal. USSR is gone and you better keep that in mind.
TheBlindPowerslave 1 year ago
@TheBlindPowerslave Hallooo...
It is you are the one who's changing conversation beyond any sense and logic. Which country in the world pays people to immigrate abroad? Which country provides better living standard to the working people? Your "critic" is absolutely senseless unless you provide a better alternative.
ssmusic214 1 year ago
@ssmusic214 Which country provides better living standarts to the working people? European countries most certainly (I don't know for how long though). They offer better living standarts than any other country. I would laugh if you say that US does. It's a country without social security. Instead they abuse the taxpayers' money and invest it on weapons. My critic was a good one and your attempts to dodge it failed.
TheBlindPowerslave 1 year ago
@TheBlindPowerslave Halooo..... I live in US! And my standard of living is beyond anything I've seen in USSR,
Austria and Italy. And providing social security is none of the government business, but building the weapons IS! That's what the government is for in the first place.
ssmusic214 1 year ago
@TheBlindPowerslave Most euro nations are also facing massive budget short and stagnate economics, far worse than the US, due there unsustainable economic programs.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave Most euro nations are also facing massive budget shortfalls and stagnate economics, far worse than the US, due there unsustainable economic programs such as universal healthcare.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 Thats the most fucking ridiculous thing I've heard so far.
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave this doesnt actually disprove anything i ve said. Your comment is actually just a confession that you cant argue with my statement. Look at nations such as Greece, Spain, Portugual, England and Ireland they have huge debt problems. In nations such as hungary and poland they they are seizing citizens private poensions to make up for government shortfalls.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 I don't have to disprove anything because you haven't proven something. You didn't explain the reasons why healthcare is an unsutainable economic program which is like saying "I believe in Big Foot because I know it exists, even if there is no proof that it actually exsists." The same goes with what you said in your second argument. Have a nice day.
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave Yea my response to your cliam the Euro nations have higher stantdards of living standards for working ppl was that the social nets they offer are un-sustainable based on there massive budget shortfall. You havent offered any response other than saying it rediculous (your response is a big foot argument). You have just conceded that my point is accurate. You have not even attempted to argue it.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 Wow! You sure have missed some english lessons, along with a decent education it seems. Anyway, you are saying the same shit but still based on a big nothing. What makes you think EU countries have budget deficiency?
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave do you live under a rock? Did your education fail to teach to pay attention to world events? Have you not heard of the Greek and irish financial meltdowns? They have had to make deep cuts into there social programs and still required loans total 177 billion Euros. Spain has had to do the same as well. Portugal is expected to need a 70 to 80 billion euros from the EU to meet its obligations. The EU has had to approve a 1 trillion dollar rescue program for its nations.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 Haha so Greece and Ireland are part of european union? Well they are officially but unoficially only the important countries matters. France, England and Germany are the main powers and they did nothing to help those countries because it's exactly what they want. Now those countries are their slaves because they owe a shit load of money to germany and france. I do not dare to call it a rescue program ffs...
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave You really are a dip shit. 1) greece and ireland illustrate that there social safety nets are unsustainable, the reactions of other nations is irrelevant (2) England has massive budget short falls there healthcare system faces shortfalls of 10 billion pounds and an overall budget shortfall of about 274 billion dollars for 2010. (3) France's budget deficit for 2010 was 229 billion dollars.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 The situation US is in now, a country with no credible social security, faces the same economic disaster as european countries because of capitalist economy. When it grows it becomes unsustainable because it is not a system based on reality. It consumes all resources but there is a limit, always. Us spent 700 billion to help its economy in 2008. Triple of countries with universal healthcare. Your arguments are invalid. Now I expect you to vanish, Willy, along with your existence.
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave 1) the US runs a deficit due to wars. it is not related to capitalism 2) Capitalism is the only economic system that operates in reality by using the market forces of supply and demand. Ex. as oil becomes more scare the market reacts by sending the price up forcing consumers to find alternatives. 3) Bailouts are not a capitalist action. they are socialist measures. By pointing out that they ineffective you are arguing my point dumb ass.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 You don't support social policies and you don't support aggresive policies. What do you want exactly? You'll have to apply one of them eventually. Secondly capitalism is a monopoly (a generalization) in which real goods are traded with money, which is a piece of paper (fairly cheap and abundant), thus real goods are also considered abundant regardless of their limits because money has value not the goods. Thirdly the word you seek is nationalization not bailouts. Fat stupid fuck...
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave FAIL 1) Minimal government interference. You dont have to apply social polices or aggresive polices. 2) Yes paper is abundant, but paper with value attached to it (money) is not abundant. You (TheBlindDumbSlave) cannot create money. Real goods are not considered abundant thats why price rises as supply diminishes. Ex. Oil, diamonds, the hot christmas gift. (learn about basic economics Ex. Supply curves and demand curves). 3) No i meant bailouts are not capitalist measures.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
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TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 Even if a country has no or little gvmt. interference you still have to apply a policy which is required to run a country. Money is created out of nothing you ask the cetral bank of a country and they'll print you the sum you want. One thing you don't consider is the money is created with debt. Which means when you borrow money from the bank you borrow it at interest which means you have to pay more than you borrowed. I will explain below what it has to do with ressources.
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave No central banks will not just print money if i ask. Yes money is more or less created out of nothing, but it not worth nothing because it has a value attached to it by society. Money is not debt. You have fallen victim to conspiracies about the fractional researve banking system. You pay interest as a cost of doing business. 1) so the bank has an incentive to lend. (why would they just give away there money) 2) to cover inflation (which purposely exists for econ growth)
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 OK answer this; Where does the money come from?
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 The question, Willy. Answer it!
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave The FED dumb ass. It is then given value by societies recognition that it can be traded for goods. This question is irrelevant to the discussion of capitalism because capitalism doesn't need a fiat monetary system. It could function in a barter system. Basically you are barking up the wrong tree. You have not responded to any of my points. Why? I know 1) they are logical, as opposed to yours 2) you know nothing about economic systems and are a poser commie.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 You have proven my point yourself. The question is realated to capitalism because today capitalist economies cannot work without money, unless you suggest that the capitalist system in use today has not evolved at all, which would be one fucking stupid suggestion. If you can't to see the logic in this, it is your failure, not mine. Also answer this; Does the FED gives money for free or do they give it at interest?
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 Money you have is borrwed from a bank which gave it to you at interest. This interest is bigger than the value of the sum you have borrowed and it is impossible to pay this debt right in the beginning. Even if you do pay someone else will not be able to do it and this means everyone will get bankrupt sometime in the future. And since trade is made by money the good have no importance and if your bankrupt what you own is now the proprety of the one who lent you the money.
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave FAIL. You know nothing about banking/economics. No the money i have was not barrowed. You basing this on the false presumption everyone is 100% in debt. No not everyone wil go bankrupt. You can earn money without going into debt dumbass. Interest is want you pay so you can buy things you cant afford now. You take a loan betting you will be able to pay it off with interest on your salary or if it is a business loan the future profits of you company.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@SuperWilly33 And as seen in the world today the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few thousand which is why it is a monopoly where you have no liberty. You are a wage slave living to consume and die. Your life is a onw way ticket to hell. Remember “You can protect your liberties in this world only by protecting the other man's freedom. You can be free only if I am free.” which is why capitalism is not liberty but slavery.
TheBlindPowerslave 11 months ago
@TheBlindPowerslave FAIL. It is not a monopoly becasue i can earn become wealtly and not have to work. I have enough money that i could chose to not work for the rest of my life. Lets say we did live in a early agrarian society. You have to choose to work to produce food and shelter or die or be excommunicated in essence death. In a communist society if everyone decides not to work you die. This allows less liberty you cant make enought money to not have to work.
SuperWilly33 11 months ago
@ssmusic214 The Berlin wall was around 100 mi., cost $3+ bil., with 100-200 dead; while US border wall is 500-700+ mi., cost tax payers untold billions with corps profiting thru contracts, w/ over 5000 dead, trapping economic refugees in Mex. stemming from FTA's. The US, world, (and the USSR, China, Nazi's) run a failed state-capitalist economy, now in crisis. The US has travel restrictions, no free to move! Nordic states like Sweden have the higher living standards...US #1 in child poverty tho!
AnarchyDavey 1 year ago
@AnarchyDavey Hallooo.... Stupid!
What'd'hell US border wall has to do with freedom of immigration?
Anybody who doesn't like to live in US doesn't need to scale any walls free to go anytime anywhere for any reason or without any reason.
ssmusic214 1 year ago
I'll say this much: I think capitalism is the one reason many countries currently enjoy the standards of living we enjoy now. (compared to even 150 years ago, when most nations and their mothers were 3rd world countries, right?) If not capitalism, what other system has history proven to improve nation prosperity as successfully? That said, I think if your stats are an accurate reflection of reality, the rules for the game DO need a serious makeover so the wealth is enjoyed more evenly.
Silkspine 1 year ago
There is so much fallacy here I don't even know where to start.
For one, you're quoting recent statistics as though any of it has any relevance to capitalism. Corporatism =/= capitalism or free markets.
Here's a good video that explains the difference: watch?v=yAa6dYBwy7M
HeyItzMeDawg 1 year ago
Ska-P!
miclefa 1 year ago
@miclefa not Ska-P its Skalariak :D
McCuPCaKeMaN90 1 year ago
Capitalist systems have vast middle classes. The disparity between the poorest and wealthiest is greater than in socialism, but the overall standard of living for the majority is greater.
Gegock1134 1 year ago
You are saying wealthy people like it's a whole other race and you can never be it. There are so many stories of rags to riches. With something other than capitalism, when you actually start making money it gets taken away from you. With capitalism, you can work hard and you will be rewarded greatly.
Fidlestyx 1 year ago
@Fidlestyx - That crap's been spewed from all of your kind for far too long. Do you honestly think that, for example, the people in Africa under Capitalist rule are nothing but lazy slobs? These people struggle to get by every day, and their honest-to-God efforts get them nowhere and gain them no reward but the possibility of potentially being granted enough money or food to get by another day.
Under Capitalism, hard work isn't rewarded, it's exploited.
battousai9439 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS
The problem isn't blacks, but the divisive methods the owning class use to divide the working class. The inner city black, Mexican migrant worker, and redneck (excuse the pejorative term) NASCAR fan all have a similar class struggle and interests.
It is true that the working class has poor role models such as the rappers you mentioned, but a group of executives had to have organized to agree to approve of, fund, and market such violent, profane trash.
jaymthegenius 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS
I have heard that schools in the inner city have classes that teach students how to be carpenters or mechanics (i.e.: classes with saws in them) and even have military courses. Such classes aim to track said individuals into blue collar professions and thus act to exacerbate working class oppression. Abolishing said classes should help with a greater emphasis on SAT, SAT II, essay, and interview prep in high school and SSAT prep in middle school.
jaymthegenius 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS yeah you seem to speak very well for blacks. and you wonder why they hate whites.
there are more blacks going to school and entering the white collar workforce. many go and get their PhD's. many get their law degrees.
what do you suggest? take away blacks' rights? enslave them? if so, man, your racism goes beyond anything i can do... bye
dautolover 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS whats wrong with the schools? the funding. the teachers (sometimes). resources. commitment in part of the district and faculty. you get a different education in a predominantly white school. Why? because more resources are being poured in there. more programs and what not.
you know how many AP classes were offered in my high school? 2
you know how many AP classes are offered in richer high schools? 10+
dautolover 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS some would say the KKK started violence against ppl of color.
and i cant do anything to take away your hatred. i can, however, say that hatred continues to perpetuate violence FROM BOTH SIDES. if you treat people as sub-human, then you will get more hatred from the other side. and thats how it all goes. hatred feeds on hatred. keep it up!
dautolover 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS "Didn't the inequality in the U.S start growing alot right after the creation of the welfare sttate?"
not really. inequality was really bad before FDR. the welfare state made it possible for many who were poor before to actually move up ahead in between generations. the statement: "If a farmer is a better farmer & grows more crops he has more crops to sell & therefor has more wealth." is therefore false before FDR. a farmer could not compete with huge corporations
dautolover 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS boo whoo...
whites enslaved blacks for centuries. They segregated people. they have made law that benefitted whites at the expense of blacks.
im not condoning their actions. but its quite interesting to see how whites are now in the position to understand how bad they themselves treat blacks. the mistake of both sides is to see the problem of race as black vs. white. this is what perpetuates the violence from both sides.
dautolover 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS as a white person, this statement comes easy for you. when you see the schools people of color come from, then maybe you'll understand how bad it is for a great number of blacks who are capable of meeting the challenge are systematically being disadvantaged. not just as a poor person, but as a person of color.
dautolover 1 year ago 2
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS so im guessing ur father's experience was the experience of all the white folk in s. bronx?
the white experience is much different than the black experience. this is the tricky part. cause not only is it hard for you to succeed if you're poor but also if you're black/colored. if you're a woman, even harder!
these are things that people dont get. they think that the inequality present in the US is natural. it isnt tho. its a product of social imagination and consequent law
dautolover 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS what facts? socialist? not even close!
70,000 income? you do know poor people make much less than that. and because they probably live in areas where things are as expensive as they are in your area, then they struggle more than you. you simply dont know how bad it is for poor folks to make ends meet which is why you make an assumption that they are "blessed"
dautolover 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS and you say this as a poor person?
dautolover 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS you should check out the social and economic mobility between those "socialist" countries vs. the US. US is very middle of the road
dautolover 1 year ago
@WetbacksRapeDONKEYS you cant base the US on other countries. For one, the cost of living in all those countries is much lower than here. Second, just because u think blacks here are doing "better" than elites in other countries (you're mistaken if you do) that doesnt mean things dont have to change.
The African American income is much less than that just so u know.
dautolover 1 year ago
when my great grandmother came here there were help wanted signs that said irish need not apply.now my family are millionaires.only in america and its evil capitalist system would this be possible.
cassidy99ful 1 year ago
i agree on the idea of capitalism as working only for the rich. but i think that this only works true for the type of capitalism that is unregulated. in other words, if you regulate the market, then you will have more people, people who would otherwise be displaced by the powerful, rich classes, participating.
going all the way to communism like all the comments here seem to suggest is too much for me. marx's idea of transitioning into communism will never happen
dautolover 1 year ago
Great stats, but why ruin it with the annoying music? I had to turn it down.
somebodysvids 1 year ago
Our attitude towards ourselves should be ''to be satiable in learning'' and towards others ''to be tireless in teaching.''
Mao Tse-Tung
cultofmao 1 year ago
I just don't get what people don't like with communism/sociamlism. They seem to think that in a communism everyone are poor and the state are trying to put you in some sort of Gulag. Sure, in communism there are no rich, but everyone have food on their table and a home to live in.
MrMT94 1 year ago
@MrMT94 i know that you wrote this months ago, but you have to realize that theres much more to life than just having food and a home.
if you work harder than everyone else, as long as you dont exploit anyone else, then you should get more than everyone else.
dautolover 1 year ago
The Rich Minority wishes for one thing - To preserve its wealth and power. The Status Quo and profit is more important to them than human dignity. The Capitalist system is a Mode of Survival for the Rich.
There is a looming global economic insurrection in the future, as proletariats realize their majority and use their power in the form of production and work and will take back what is rightfully theirs.
technologic21 1 year ago
i'd vote for a socialist/communist party.
dermatlmann 2 years ago
i agree, i for example have a low income job at macdonalds and have a hard time saving up money because of bills, dental payments, food, rent, etc., while those owning businesses get richer and richer while the rest of us have to struggle, low income jobs in general are more stressful to work in and we earn way less.
dermatlmann 2 years ago
@dermatlmann So, try getting a better job. It will not make your situation any better if you punish your employer. It is not like someone getting rich takes anything from you. Right now you have options to improve your life. In a communist system you wouldn't. It looks lots better on paper than it does in practice. Take a look at Cuba. Yea, people are closer to equal but nobody has anything.
shananagans5 1 year ago
@shananagans5
This is incorrect; Cuba has one of the most effective public health and education systems - two very highly valued 'paradigms'.
Uberloinvongenchler 1 year ago
@Uberloinvongenchler You have to be joking about that one. I guess that why they are jumping on anything that will float to get to florida.
shananagans5 1 year ago
Greedy executives rolling in piles of stolen cash. No person is worth the obscene salary & bonuses paid to executives, especially banks. The execs at a company I'm with cause so much of a mess every day it's pathetic. Their stupid, greedy, impulsive shoot from the hip mentality is why we're in such an economic mess. None of em' are worth ten-cents. No company can benefit from fat cat CEOs & VPs thieving profits. It's disgusting how incompetence & greed continues to destroy millions of families.
pig5689 2 years ago 3
@pig5689 that is so true, lucky b*******
dermatlmann 2 years ago
Hey dumbass, Middle Class Kid all for Capitlism.
Garren16 2 years ago
Whoever made this video is an idiot.
ExquisiteDoom 2 years ago
Well, alot of great capitalists didn't start out rich. They might have become rich by say, selling a product people want, or providing a service people want. Start poor, do something smart, get rich.
Zender1 2 years ago
yes but the problem is to deliver that service in a capitalist system and create profit (and thus keep delivering it) he is going to have to screw over other people to get there. imagine if everyone in the world started poor, did something, got rich. it wouldnt work, what i mean is for everyone who gets rich, thats multiple people getting poorer.
ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz 2 years ago
You don't get it. That's not how it works. The only reason it works that way is because the federal reserve is taking away your ressources, and replacing it with paper. In a free market there would not be a federal reserve. Therefore all ressources would represent themselves. To be blunt, you actually have socialism, and you are experiencing what socialism really is about, state sponsored corporate monopolies taking away what you have through the use of "law" and violence. Capitalism works.
ExquisiteDoom 2 years ago
i dont have the federal reserve because im scottish, my country, and the USA, have some elements of socialism but are still almost all capitalist, and im not talking as small scale as you here im talking about the whole thing, for someone to be rich there is always going to be someone who is poor, if you have 2 cups of water each half full and one cup decides its going to be full then wheres the water coming from? you get me?
ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz 2 years ago
You still have a central bank. Since you have a federal sponsored central bank, you're going to get someone replacing your ressources with paper, with which when the music stops, people go under. Because the paper doesn't back anything up. Upon printing, the very first dollars printed have the fullest buying power, with which it can purchase ressources. Then the paper depreciates, no longer being pegged to the ressource the banks have bought. Meaning, the poor ar the ones the music stopped on.
ExquisiteDoom 2 years ago
only in a partial system, its got to be all the way or it wont work.
ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz 2 years ago
Agreed. But, free market forces apply even if people choose to collectively ignore it. This is why communism destroyed Russia, people didn't know the price of goods, they didn't know instinctively where there opportunities were, so they wasted time in other areas than where they should be, creating famins, deaths, scarcity. The only thing it could support was the top, and the wars. But not it's own workers, it collapsed under it's own weight. Socialism is the same.
ExquisiteDoom 2 years ago
firstly russia was only ever a communist nation by name, it was stalinist, secondly the masses found themselves working for a small group of peoples benefit instead of their own. yeah again its got to be all the way or no way, one country of communists (or stalinists, in soviet russia's case) in a sea of capitalists will not work that well.
ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz 2 years ago
Either system cannot work with a government. And communism is nowhere near as efficient as capitalism. Efficiency means that you can over-produce, then relax later. Work nothing but a couple hours, then get back home. If you're interested in anarcho communism, you might want to check out the venus project. Either system, i'm fine, really. My goal is to make people understand why statism cannot work.
ExquisiteDoom 2 years ago 2
yep i agree there the less government the better
ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz 2 years ago 2
@Zender1
still there are few are rich.
CloudsofBliss 1 year ago
"The benefits of economic growth have been largely enjoyed by high income families."
I couldn't have said it better myself. Large incomes rock. Soon I hope to be getting a very decent income boost with a new job. Who could object to that?
hapspir 2 years ago
first things first, on the topic of orwell, one must remember that he was a VERY active communist and actually fought with the marxist in spain 1936 so his books are not critiques of communism but rather authoritarianism. the flaws of his dytopias are in no way characteristics of communist. If people want to live with freedom ppl must be responsible and ensure democracy in any society. we are not born capitalist b/c capitalist steal their money. communist earn each penny
prjctcivilian 2 years ago
Really what it means is that stupid mother fuckers are breeding a lot faster than intelligent responsible people.
jjrglobal 2 years ago
Animal Farm failed because of corruption, Not Capitalism or Socialism. The principle of self interest helps determine the Laws of Supply and Demand. Those are natural laws just like gravity and can not be denied. Try to deny gravity and jump off a cliff you still die, same with Laws of Supply and Demand. We were all born capitalists, demonstrated by the fact out of self interest we took our first breath. If the majority would deal with corruption instead of treating it like mental kryptonite.
waketheoblivious 2 years ago
Dont you see? More regulation and moves to socialism only help the rich disrupt the true price system and doom the masses. Why does europe experience little to no economic growth even with increased purchasing parity of the euro, and moderate inflation? The government pushes the wealth to the extreme top, its obvious.
mikeyooh7 2 years ago
Anti-capitalists should support Open Source, and free information more generally
ConspiracyoftheRich 3 years ago
Another one
Matthew 6:24b (KJV)
Ye cannot serve both God and mammon.
Rich serve mammon.
iseeallforme 3 years ago
Our society is shaped by the System into a steep pyramid with a few excessively privileged and powerful people at the top and a huge vertical drop to the bottom where people lead lives of deprivation and desperation. This shape is in contrast to the expectation after World War II, that America would become a country with a large and prosperous middle class and no extreme contrasts between rich and poor. This extreme inequality, destroys community and threatens society.
CosmicFork 3 years ago 5
great vid ,capitalism will always enslave us until it is destroyed
trotskyist5 3 years ago 5
Smash the state!
jackriter 3 years ago
Nice BGM! What's the title of the BGM?
iseeallforme 3 years ago
How correct is that... Capitalism is only for the rich, as the rich either oppress the poor or the foreign. This is the prime cause of imperialism and the atrocities caused by it. I am not a communist, but nice video! Continue to attack the evil that plagues the world, which is materialism.
iseeallforme 3 years ago
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Capitalism works a lot better, it's the natural way to go. Kill or be killed makes the best rise to the top, and the worst flounder till they disappear. And because of our short lives, it constantly shifts to fit into new generations. I love it.
Akwotico 3 years ago
under your "natural way" i guess i can come to your house, kill you, take your stuff and eat your children: "Kill or be killed makes the best rise to the top" ???
What a crap ideal society that is. That's how to breed guard dogs not humans.
ConspiracyoftheRich 3 years ago 9
The rich are simply parasites
ComradeFlorian28 3 years ago 5
Yes, rich are parasites! Rich are fools, for they do not follow the teachings in places such as Ecclesiastes 5:8-17, Deuteronomy 15:1-18, 23:20, et al. Survival of the fittest only benefits the rich as it allows them to sacrifice their ethics in the altar of luxury and hedonism.
iseeallforme 3 years ago
@ConspiracyoftheRich You're an idiot.
CaramelMarshmallow 11 months ago
The thing that's missing here is that there is no General difference between Capitalism and communism. One puts power in the hands of the Government, which as we see in every single communist country out there so far, is corrupt, and the other puts the power in the Rich, who by the way can't take away our rights to fight them or take them down like communism does. Owning land is a right of every human being, and can only truly be taken away in a Communist government, not Capitalism.
KOHNAN 3 years ago
No, we need a world were workers WORK and are SUBMISIVE !!! Like they are now !!! Workers ... GO BACK TO WORK, NOW !!!!
We also need a whip for those dirty workers, so they can work harder
RaulSmen 3 years ago
Materialist fool! The rich won't do anything with the wealth except expand their own empire, buy luxuries for themselves, and go to charity to hide their heinous crimes, ignorant of the fact that they won't be taking any of their wealth when they die.
iseeallforme 3 years ago 2
Workers of the world, rise up and overthrow the greedy employers!
We need a world run by workers and for the workers
ComradeFlorian28 3 years ago
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ComradeFlorian28 is just a POOR FRUSTRATED IMBECILE who actually belives that the working class can come to power... HE IS RETARDED !!! He belongs in a hospital !
RaulSmen 3 years ago
Fascist scum
ComradeFlorian28 3 years ago 7
The only hope for mankind is to do away with the capitalist system.
Down with the greedy bastards!
ComradeFlorian28 3 years ago 3
As I said, it will only hurt the AMERICAN workers by depriving them of allies. As long as there are capitalists, they can always find new sources of cheap labour, but it would be very difficult for American workers to find new allies.
ComradeFlorian28 3 years ago 3
It won't hurt them because they can always bring more. The only thing you will hurt will be the AMERICAN working class by leaving it without allies.
ComradeFlorian28 3 years ago
Just another stat, 19% of Americans think that they are in the 1% income bracket. I wonder if this 18% are also the ones who think bush is doing a bang up job.
70road 3 years ago
Your so-called "solutions" can only succeed in dividing the working class. Hatred of immigrants only helps the capitalist masters.
ComradeFlorian28 3 years ago
Fascists are usually members of Wealthy Classes like the Middle Class,Upper Class, and Rich.And they blame all the problems in a Country on Different groups of people without offering any solutions to the problems they point out.Sounds more like you.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
heil comrade? ROFL!!! Heil is what Hitler's people used as a salute which they borrowed from the Roman Empire's Hail Ceaser.What does that have to do with Communism? And the only one who complains so far is you, you blame everything on the Mexicans when the Economy is garbage because you do nothing to fight the crooked Corporations and Elitists who are destroying it.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
Yes Bias, and what you think because you call me a Comrade that that offends me? How funny.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
"lmfao @ u
you have never debated anyone.
Illegal invasion? your opinion is so biased that it doesn't count. You can't debate and realize that you were wrong or even see another point of view." Funny, I was just about to say the same thing about you.I await your message.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
There hasnt been an "illegal" invasion in years, just the ones the Colonists did with this Country and if your not Racist why dont you try to debate me on it sometime and prove your not.Of course I'm more than sure you dont have the balls to do it.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
LMAO!!! arent you the one that runs around online pretending to be Black so you can somehow justify your Racist Garbage?
VampireLord66 3 years ago
Ah my Homosexual Stalker has returned again, pay him no mind people
VampireLord66 3 years ago
ComradeFlorian28, i would say the same thing about the poor, but that`s allready happening.. and it will happen forever :D , the poor don`t have a place in this world, but the rich DO
RaulSmen 3 years ago
The poor dont have a place in the World because the Rich steals from everyone to create they're own Empire, therefore the Rich must be exterminated like the Vermin they are.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
Capitalism is the best system ever :D , i like it
RaulSmen 3 years ago
throw the rich down the well!
ComradeFlorian28 3 years ago
The only hope for mankind is to do away with the capitalist system.
Workers of the world, rise up and overthrow the greedy employers!
ComradeFlorian28 3 years ago
The Rich get Richer and The Poor Get Poorer! How fucking TRUE!!!! We are being raped and doing nothing about it!!!! Great stuff! Pops
popartproductions 3 years ago
that is kinda true capitalism revolves around the rich. capitalism doesnt care for the poor
slimv29 3 years ago
Only a fool would think that a System where the Market is in total control over the Government and Society could ever be Democratic.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
A supply and demand market only controls the prices of goods and services, that's all.
In communism, the gov controls the production and distribution of everything. That's not good either. Russia was paying Cuba $5/pound for sugar. Here in the USA at that time sugar was selling for less than $1/pound.
KKKn50cal 3 years ago
Communism does not believe in Government control of the Market,it believes in the People's Control of the Market, and Capitalism is an ideology in which money controls everything including Politics.That's not Democracy, that's Plutoacracy.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
That is what communism is, the gov controls production and distribution of all goods & services. Their is no market. No one knows what a pound of sugar (for example) should really cost since the gov controls it. It's still open to corruption at the top and on down. That is one of the problems I have with communism.
KKKn50cal 3 years ago
Communism is when the people themselves control what the Prices are of everything and how the Businesses should be run as opposed to Capitalism where the Government and Businessmen decide everything.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
The people can not control prices. In the sugar example, the people can say, OK, I only want to pay 10cents a pound today. There is no way to figure out the true cost of goods produced.
The gov doesn't control prices in Capitalism.
Supply and demand control prices. I'm sure greed plays a part somewhere in larger operations/corporations.
KKKn50cal 3 years ago
The people can not control the Prices under Capitalism, but with Communism it would be a totally different society.And no one ever said that in Capitalism the Government controls the Prices,in fact the first thing that we say is that the one thing that seperates Capitalism from other Tyrannical Ideologies is that the Elites control the Government and Economy and Society as a whole.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
I know you've studied communism more than me.
I look at the communist countries. They are all "Tyrannical". Half the population starves and the elites at the top do very well. So in some respects, Capitalism and Communism are the same.
KKKn50cal 3 years ago
Brother these are Right-Wing Dictatorships disguised as Communism, and they dont have any Elites, they have lowly Beucrats that follow the Stalinist Dictator.Yes Stalinist Countries and Capitalist Countries are both Equally Fucked over.
VampireLord66 3 years ago
Great video
legolds 3 years ago
Forte tare! Astfel de informatii nu vei afla de la televizor in nicio tara capitalista.
CheGuevaraOVULA 3 years ago