cheap hydro power?

[diancagv]

Rhank you for posting. I currently work for a Company that develops similar projects in Colombia. We actually were awarded for the adaptation of a Garman water Turbine, not because we were creating a super powerful source but because these turbines are highly scalable and can be used almost anywhere, our target populations are the small riverside villages in Latin America that have not large energy consumptions, these machines are enough and cheaper than PV, and easier for technology Transfer

[QUIX4U]

@Trippy518 has a very good valid point to make herte folks... yes - heavy "extra" weght is undesirable... (however there was a shortcut... oops wrong thought) NO - weight is not the issue - it's the FORCE of inertia he's being confused with - the "styarting" INERTIA required to start the added weight turning - ALSO KEEPS it turning... & is actually a desired thing ... as it "continues to HOLD the power generated - even if there is a bubble (no water) - or "irratic" water flows...

[josephdupont]

yes and no... the more weight the heavier bearings and more drag. I would use existing things to save money, because the cost per kilowatt of power is what your interested in.

if the water is free then the efficiency is not that important. However if the water is limited then efficiency comes into play.

thanks for your comments.

[mikenator55]

I just love applesauce

[acengineer4u]

A tesla pump achieves the same effect but more efficiantly

[geordietoddy]

@acengineer4u slightly more difficult to create from 'spare' parts though :S

[acengineer4u]

@geordietoddy you can buy the material or take a trip down the scrap yard! I tried to get some stainless steel for my electrodes and found it cheaper to buy a couple of stainless steel breadbins, flatten them out and hey presto!

I actually got some really good stainless for nothing and i am using the material from the breadbins for neutral plates...

I will find out soon what the conclusion will be!

They have made a car using the tesla pump where they use kevlar for the discs....

Pretty cool!

[geordietoddy]

@acengineer4u when you say "they have made a car using the tesla pump" , who are you referring to? Because I am pretty sure that tesla pumps actually use more energy than they produce.

and I said 'SPARE' parts, not cheap parts... maybe if I had a garage or a shed full of junk, then this could work with spare parts, but I think that most people don't have that 'luxury'...

[geordietoddy]

@acengineer4u I don't mean to sound like i'm putting a downer on ur ideas, I'm just a realist! and I wouldn't be here at all if I didn't think you were on the right track!

[Trippy518]

Ok I have done some Hydo power work. All of the idea's you have are workable but very very inefficient. All of the items you have listed are very heavy in weight and requires more power to move them. Thus when you use up power in the creating motion. That is power that is lost for making power. You need to look too using much lighter materials. One other thing is how far you are from the power you make. when dealing with DC power is becomes an issue with distance. DC is the easiest to creat.

[josephdupont]

the accelerating of heavy turbine only is an issue upon the first spool up.. once the the heavey turbine is turning it's weight has nothing to do with the energy required to

generate power.

[Trippy518]

On the contrary heavy items require more power to sustain speed. That is power your going to want to use once a load is started. Belive me when you creat the load to generate a current the larger your load is the more power you need to spin the wheel. If you do not have enough power for input (AKA jet stream) the wheel will slow reducing the amount of power you can creat. Everything starts being factors in the equasion. Any additional moving parts bearings, gears, pullys all consume power.

[JAM1SN]

if you have good bearings then weight is not an issue, it will simply even out the power output by making the spinning motion more smooth, rather that super light weight things that speed up and slow down very quickly.

[Trippy518]

The concept is cheap power and using items laying around. Nobody has good bearings laying around. The good ones are being used. Even given that you can not use power robbing devices with out holding that in account. The fact is for every item you have inline bearings included take power away with resistance. This is power loss and brings down efficiency thus making power more costly per watt. Cheap power comes from being more efficient because you create more power with out loss.

[UberWagen]

Here's my question though. I can't figure out how you would get water from a tank, through a high pressure pump, to shoot onto the hydro blade, then bring the water back to the tank possibly.

[squint28]

what if you put the wheel into the tank itself?

[pitbike2006]

what about useing a jet wash there good for presure and that

[UberWagen]

I had something similar to that drawn up a couple of weeks ago.

[Scienceworksusa]

excellent idea

for poorer people thanks for the video

[txe5502]

Hey, what about using torque converter turbines, they are basically francis turbines that are designed to use the same fluid in a circular flow instead of a constant stream. I am actually trying to come up with ideas of how I can build a housing for a torque converter turbine that I have right now so that it can be used for hydroelectric.

[josephdupont]

YOur probably right.. as I recall in some old manuels, you might have a great idea.

do you have one? you can cover it with fiberglass. but bearings might be a problem. do you have any pictures of same?? In any evant good thinking! That's what these are youtube are for.

[911sheeple]

combine the two ideas. Use the disc brake but more importantly the sealed bearing on car spindle with torque converted welded/bolted to disc brake. Search hi performance convertors with different Stahl speeds.

[h4ck3rm1k3]

you know,

this is pretty good. If someone did not patent that already, then this video would make it harder for them to make a patent on it.

"Prior Art"