by saying drummers are narrow minded because they enjoy John Bonham is being narrow minded. I am only 15 and I enjoy every form of drums except heavy metal
@adamdeawesome1 It's not what he said, he said that all the young drummers are doing the same Bonham-like tricks. I mean Bonham was one of the greatest rock drummers of all time (if not the greatest) but not everyone is able to make a drumkit sound like he did. So don't try to copy and find your very own style, you wille never be Bonham or Elvin Jones or whoever but if you work hard and find your style and your way to play you'll become a good drummer.
the most talented drummer at this drum battle is by far no questions is elvin. who had the least impressive solo. Elvin. but what makes elvin so fucking amazing is not his soloing but his playing. on all the records i have with him on drums he rarely takes solos and he's still my favorite drummer from listening to how complex and amazing his swing beat is. blakey and roach and no questions asked masters but sometimes being a good soloer can be over rated
Max was definitely the cleanest player of these three, Art was probably the most powerful, and I personally don't dig Elvin that much as a soloist, however, I gotta say, in my opinion, none of these guys were as clean, or in many cases as powerful as the previous generation of drummers that came out in the swing era (Buddy, Gene, Chick, Jo, etc.). They REALLY built their solos every time, and rarely screwed up live, plus, to me, their time seemed more solid! Don't kill me, it's just my opinion!
what i love about jazz and music all together is that u can tell what kind of man they are when they solo. u can tell that Elvin is all about being free and he has no interest in being fake, he plays what is true to him. Roach is the kind of man that wants to make a point. He will elaborate beautifully, but he his always laying down his point (snare snare bass bass snare bass bass) and Blakey is like the old guy telling war stories but about music, his plot and storyline will make you cry
Don't know which ones which (I've never seen them before) but I liked the second guy better than the first. The third guy didn't really do anything (in this clip)
And? What is the world supposed to stop cause you don't like his playing. He's just a guy that's made history and who's music and playing will be studied till the end of time...what have you got going on? Nothing? Yeah I thought so. Enough said.
its amazing how these very professional looking jazz drummers with there four piece kits wearing suits, not all cocky, not taking there shirts are infinitely more talented than all these heavy metal drummers with a kit 1/6 of the size
Roach is smoking! no pun intended. a challenge to the commenter below who says roach is one dimensional...grab yourself a 4 piece kit and beat this performance then
Max makes it effortless, Elvin strangles it our like he is gonna kill somebody, Art lets the joy and the pain dance through his limbs. No use to compare, three masters having fun....
Miles my jive ass....his early bebop was fairly cool, when he was listening...but the second ya play yer own cliche's an phonie it in, why come to the gig and make the rest of us suffer because you're either out of ideas or don't care who you bug! Never let up on the vigil of musical joy & creation in present time, like John Perkins teaches us, on another subject, in "Attack Proof"...
Drums are easy to learn, but they're deffiantly one of the hardest instruments to learn correctly and distinguish yourself from other drummers. I can't count how many kids I've seen all play the same bonham lick over and over, and they aren't bad drummers, their minds are just to narrow. Once you learn how to make the drums a form of expression you start playing them, not just hitting them. This is what jazz drummers do so well. Jazz expands the mind.
@hithatrollz man you have the best way of explaining drums i'm gonna use this if it's k when my friend the guitarist says that drums arent an instrument
tell you why art is my man. 'cause he can give you a story with a single hit. the story of his heart soul and people. it's like an instantaneous thing. some have a lot of talent, and then there are some that you can tell are returning back to earth to evolve the instrument, spiritually. Art is that brother. makes me cry when i hear him play.
yeah to be fair metal has its place, lots of good metal drummers (who use every drum of their massive kits) i do perfer jazz and jazz drummers. i find that in these 3 solos they didn't exp[lore the drums as much as they have done in other vids though:( still very noce though! i love all 3!
Max and Elvin have no groove imo. I could listen to Art Blakey for days. Regarding my comment earlier, I meant to say that Bonham had been influenced "by" Art Blakey. So please stop sending me negative comments about this.
@Ixtee1979 there's of course nothing wrong with liking art blakey the most, but who are you to state that max roach and elvin jones have no groove? that's plain silly.
@Ixtee1979 I hope your kidding! Cause by saying Bonham influenced Blakey makes you sound so childish!!!!! Bonham (and Keith Moon) were really into jazz growing up and listened to the likes of Blakey, Elvin Jones, Philly Joe, Papa Jo, Max Roach to name a few!
@plangentmusic You haven't heard the right solos: Try his duo records with Anthony Braxton, Dollar Brand, Cecil Taylor, or, especially, The Long March with Archie Shepp- there are a few solos on there that match total technical command to a viciousness that he rarely displayed.
Art Blakey had the "tude" and the fire. His solos were more powerful and lively. He also experimented more and incorporated more ideas. (not just a theme).
Damn, that max roach was just cruisin thru his solo like a mega profesional. More a Caddilac cruising from New York to California and Alaska with no problems.
To SayJonosz...and others like him, yr so right i don't know all of you and i didn't mean to offend you, i apologize to all whom what i wrote simply doesn't apply...however i still feel that there are alot of misconceptions about many things that need to be examined and i know that social-conditioning and that certain perceptions that took centuries to create and to pass on and to establish firm paradigms don't just disappear overnight...
Miles Davis was playin' a gig once in the late 60s'. The Black Panthers were there and told Miles he shouldn't play with a White Bass player. Miles retorted,"That's not a White Bass Player, that's MY Bass Player!"
@Bluesmen88 I wouldn't fuck Miles at gunpoint, but I know some ladies my momma's age who did, and....oh never mind, it's agin me religion to pass on bad news...just don't put "Miles" where he didn't earn the spot! Feet of clay, ha, ha, it's always the little short chicks and the kiddies who notice the shoes, the feet of clay, hide in shrubbery! Decide how this post is---I'll wait...Be safe, everyone, love one another, and never fail to pat the kitties!
@Helslinky - No. He had the talent to assemble some of the greatest ensembles in the history of American music. It's a gift to lead a band. He also had a way of playing that was so unique, that several people emulate it to this day. He certainly didn't seem like the easiest person to get along with, but you can't say anything bad about his musical talent.
@lemonite1 And still he absconded with Cleanhead's Four and Tune Up...win some, lose some...Ben Webster said, on being introduced to my late great white brilliant tenor player Rick Davis, "He plays good for a little white cat" Ben said, "Sh*t, man, soul ain't got no color"
I knew a whole bunch of what you call "Black panthers" and race had wy little to do with it, me being a little ofay chick, welcomed anyway like Sly & the Family---I say it again! Soul has no color!
I am trying to learn jazz drums but it is hard for a lefty who plays open on a right handed kit. I have taught myself so I do not know much theory, I just play off of feeling. But this video is my inspiration to learn everything i can and get better. Truly beautiful.
Haha I have tried, but I am right footed and cant work the hi hat with my right if my life depended on it. I have tried every setup possible and open normal is the best I can get. It just makes certain rhythms very hard to play right.
I think musically you're at an advantage being a lefty on a right handed set-up. You're naturally able to approach fills with a different sticking to most drummers playing that kit, yet still comfortable with the layout.
put the ride on the left side...that's a good place to start.
I am left handed too but I play drums right handed...it was just the way I learned because I saw every other drummer I knew play like that and in the long run it helps me a bit with keeping my left and right hands even.
@guitardude1230 I am a right handed drummer, who plays open/left handed on a right handed set. my dad (who is a lefty) taught me how to play when i was 10, and so i play like he did (lefty open on a right handed set up). I have my ride on the right hand side though because i have more control with it over there.
I would move the ride to the (snare side), and the crash to the floor tom side (ie swap sides). maybe even get an extra ride or crash to go opposites to have more options
Oh I have plenty of options haha but I did the same with my ride. Its next to my hi hat now. Then I have 2 crashes per hand and a china on my right. You can see it in some of the vids I have of my band if you want. Ive found my comfort position for sure. Thanks for sharing!
assymetrical, polyrhythmic, creativity in motion, talkin' wit it, funk, motherland, you caucasians just don't know how to appreciate the intelligence of emotions freely growing beyond quantifiable mathematic scientific time-keeping stuff, imagination in tune with things beyond rationality, ancetral magik is actually a deep knowledge of nature beyond the western notion of subduing and controlling it rather allowing it to be itself yet harnessing it...
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cozy cole is better by far,,,all this is thump thump hows that drumming ,take a look at real drummers ,cole rich kurpa ,,,or louis bellson 4 top class drummers,,,on this vid these guys are 2 rate ,,,class always shows not in this case
you wanna know the best thing about jazz drummers...they have some of the most basic kit setups in the world and they can still maek them sound 1,000,000,000,000,000 times more better than the metal drummers who have these massive kits that they don't even use half of. Jazz drummers are the most amazing kinda of drummers ever...adn maybe even the greatest musicians ever
@PeponeNRC wait wait wait wait wait just a second. you think i don't know good metal drummers??? i'm going to name these drummers and tell you this, i know more about awesome metal drummers than you think:
justin foley, kevin choiral, morgan rose, matt greiner, JORDAN MANICO, craig nunemacher, Jean Dolabella, Max Kolesne, Paul Mazurkiewicz, Branden Saller.
You think i don't know my metal, well don't don't judge a book by it's cover...or don't judge a drummer by his comments on youtube
Metal drummers has normally as inspirations drummers like George Kollias,Dave Lombardo, Derek Roddy, Pete Sandoval , Daniel Erlandsson and others shurely.
Talking about extreme metal drumming that is shurely the one you hate more, you know the one of the blastbeasts.
Is not swing is a different style but most of them can swing. Cause i dont if you know but most of the metal drummers play jazz and blues. Because metal came from it. I mean seriously check and look information.
. Metal drummers has normally as inspirations drummers like George Kollias,Dave Lombardo, Derek Roddy, Pete Sandoval , Daniel Erlandsson and others shurely.
Talking about extreme metal drumming that is shurely the one you hate more, you know the one of the blastbeasts. Is not a swing is a different style but most of them can swing. Cause i dont if you know but most of the metal drummers play jazz and blues. Because metal came from it. I mean seriously check and look information.
@PeponeNRC i have a question for you...do you think i don't know this. of course i like jazz drumming, but that doesn't mean i have to only like that one style. i love metal and that's why iw as able to name all those metal drummers off the top of my head. i love all styles of music and jazz is one of them, which i happen to enjoy quite alot. that doesn't mean i don't like metal
you've got to understand a little about me, i'm more than a drummer, i'm a musician and i enjoy...(will continue)
@mrmcevilweevil all kinds of instruments, but i prefer drums. i don't favoratise them because they are easy to make loud noises out of, i chose them because they're alot harder to make a true sound out of. and i believe that in jazz, that sound is truely brought out alot more than most other styles of music. i'm not saying that it doesn't come out in metal, but i'm saying TO ME...jazz drumming jumps off the page alot more
@mrmcevilweevil may i also point out that yes you have said that metal drumming comes from jazz drumming...prooving the point that one of the best drumming styles has branched out into so much more like METAL, ROCK, alternative...basically jazz has helped every kind of music evolve...may i also say that if you think i don't know my history about jazz then let me tell you that jazz drumming orginated from marching bands and the blues style of music coming into the scene back then.
@mrmcevilweevil EXACTLY. Jazz drummers ruin my ability to enjoy 98% of rock/metal drummers. And the best rock/metal drummers I've seen have jazz roots, so there ya go.
@mrmcevilweevil agreed. However you're really just comparing apples and oranges. I grew up playing jazz drums yet I can fully appreciate death metal drummers like Steve Asheim who are so technically skilled.
@mrmcevilweevil i see what ur saying, but thats not always true. Look at louis bellson, same sized kit as lars ulrich, i play jazz and my kits on the bigger side, this is back when a 5 peice was too big, they played with only what they needed, metal drummers like options, mike portnoys kits are huge cause he like lots of options, and also the jazz drummers your refering too are the geats like these 3 above.
@shakakamooroar ok thank you i get it, and i don't mean to seem like i'm snapping at you but seriously, i posted that like ages ago, i've grown in maturity of music, both in jazz, metal, samba, mambo, rock, punk...everything, so now i know what's going on
@shakakamooroar The size of the kit? Are you serious?? Maybe it's the player! Brushes on a phone book! If it cooks, it cooks! What's next? Nina Simone's earrings!? Music! Music! Feeling! OK!
Check out extremely rare ex-Duke Ellington drummer Dave Black on YouTube. Incredible skill never moves his wrists let alone his arms. JoJo Mayer plays tradional grip push pull a "Buddy Rich secret". He's never seen this extremely rare footage just before his passing. You can see his technique up close because it's shot from the side. You can see a real one hand roll. Also plays incredible double bass drums as did all Duke's drummer I know of.
damn...blakey walks out thinking "hey are you guys done fucking around.....i wanna play some shit" hahaha no disrespect for elvin or max.....art is just art
Check out 18 minute drum battle between Art and Ginger Baker at 72 Munich Olympics way better than this, not even close. On "Ginger Baker".Check out Dave Black 9 min drum solo on You Tube ;best left hand if ever seen also double bass. Only time I heard of him is in Giger's instructional video. Most important very musical. Played in Duke's band. Might be only video on him.
Music is about enjoyment and entertainment ONLY......... its not a contest to see who is the fastest player is, if you are into cats that play really fast all the time then thats fine but even Buddy Rich himself has said thats its all about conveying that raw emotion and if a player sounds a certain way then thats fine......There was more to Buddy Rich than just chops, he could swing the band really well, he could play brushes and he was a great writer and buisnessman.
Interesting how Blakey plays with the small end of the sticks for the softer more subtle parts and with the fat end for the power, louder parts. This was not common back then but everybody does it now it seems.
I think These are the greastist drummer off all these are the Origanal, the Pioneers, The Father of the Drum Game RIP Max, Elvin, Earl Miller, Buddy Rich thank you for you done for us as Drummers today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good grief... watchin these guys play is something else. i have to agree with rapa, graceful is a great way to discribe their playing. Cant get much more naturally talented than these guys.
Man, Max Roach had the coolest stare. His eyes were just burning through the other guys.
WhatAreDrums729 1 day ago
Gospel chops back in the day.
adrianwaj 1 week ago
Wow, at 3:20, Art blakey rocks!!!! That's so amazing!
bramvanderveenmusic 1 week ago
by saying drummers are narrow minded because they enjoy John Bonham is being narrow minded. I am only 15 and I enjoy every form of drums except heavy metal
adamdeawesome1 3 weeks ago
@adamdeawesome1 It's not what he said, he said that all the young drummers are doing the same Bonham-like tricks. I mean Bonham was one of the greatest rock drummers of all time (if not the greatest) but not everyone is able to make a drumkit sound like he did. So don't try to copy and find your very own style, you wille never be Bonham or Elvin Jones or whoever but if you work hard and find your style and your way to play you'll become a good drummer.
ghostyo 2 weeks ago
Mom!! hit the tv!!! or fix the damn rabbit ears!!!
Tuberidin01 3 months ago
the most talented drummer at this drum battle is by far no questions is elvin. who had the least impressive solo. Elvin. but what makes elvin so fucking amazing is not his soloing but his playing. on all the records i have with him on drums he rarely takes solos and he's still my favorite drummer from listening to how complex and amazing his swing beat is. blakey and roach and no questions asked masters but sometimes being a good soloer can be over rated
yourfamilydocter 4 months ago
Max was definitely the cleanest player of these three, Art was probably the most powerful, and I personally don't dig Elvin that much as a soloist, however, I gotta say, in my opinion, none of these guys were as clean, or in many cases as powerful as the previous generation of drummers that came out in the swing era (Buddy, Gene, Chick, Jo, etc.). They REALLY built their solos every time, and rarely screwed up live, plus, to me, their time seemed more solid! Don't kill me, it's just my opinion!
TheHeater90 5 months ago
what i love about jazz and music all together is that u can tell what kind of man they are when they solo. u can tell that Elvin is all about being free and he has no interest in being fake, he plays what is true to him. Roach is the kind of man that wants to make a point. He will elaborate beautifully, but he his always laying down his point (snare snare bass bass snare bass bass) and Blakey is like the old guy telling war stories but about music, his plot and storyline will make you cry
knowgeddy 5 months ago 7
@knowgeddy QFT.
The4thGuy 4 months ago
Don't know which ones which (I've never seen them before) but I liked the second guy better than the first. The third guy didn't really do anything (in this clip)
Shmoeseph12345 6 months ago
haha Elvin staring at Max at 0:35. He never looks that scared and worried behind a drumset! lol
byungkang 6 months ago in playlist Music
Art Blakey one of my favorite Jazz Drummers of all time
mrozzy1231 6 months ago
beautiful to see a segment of jazz history all on one stage....if you simply remove Ego from all the comments, all you feel is Love in this video.
taylorfusion 6 months ago
I don't know what it is but I really dislike Blakey's soloing.
Helslinky 6 months ago
@Helslinky
And? What is the world supposed to stop cause you don't like his playing. He's just a guy that's made history and who's music and playing will be studied till the end of time...what have you got going on? Nothing? Yeah I thought so. Enough said.
videolover61 6 months ago
Yeah Max played much better than Elvin this time ;)
He really tells a story.
VillageBomb 7 months ago
its amazing how these very professional looking jazz drummers with there four piece kits wearing suits, not all cocky, not taking there shirts are infinitely more talented than all these heavy metal drummers with a kit 1/6 of the size
yourfamilydocter 7 months ago
Roach is smoking! no pun intended. a challenge to the commenter below who says roach is one dimensional...grab yourself a 4 piece kit and beat this performance then
rynomite69 7 months ago
I never dug Roach as a soloist.
One-dimensional and predominantly unimaginative.
Easleytee 9 months ago
VERY LIVELY AUDIENCE....UNBELIEVABLE.
TheDice2008 9 months ago
@TheDice2008 yeah... especially that woman they film first.. she crowd surfing like a mad woman!
MortenBoHansen 8 months ago
Max Roach clearly won that battle.His combos where better and more cleaner.
Lo0074 9 months ago
Max makes it effortless, Elvin strangles it our like he is gonna kill somebody, Art lets the joy and the pain dance through his limbs. No use to compare, three masters having fun....
DarkeningSkies1 9 months ago
Miles my jive ass....his early bebop was fairly cool, when he was listening...but the second ya play yer own cliche's an phonie it in, why come to the gig and make the rest of us suffer because you're either out of ideas or don't care who you bug! Never let up on the vigil of musical joy & creation in present time, like John Perkins teaches us, on another subject, in "Attack Proof"...
ohyppest1 10 months ago
look at al those people!!!
boyondrums 11 months ago
what's not to love....
bteiv676 1 year ago
Man, just to see these three onstage together....and that look on Elvins face at the beginning as Max Roach is playing . Intense is not the word!
ambientgreg 1 year ago 2
At 1:33 ish the camera zooms in on the only afro americans in the place. They look scared to move. It would've been crazy living back in those days.
noahbirdrevolution 1 year ago
Drums are easy to learn, but they're deffiantly one of the hardest instruments to learn correctly and distinguish yourself from other drummers. I can't count how many kids I've seen all play the same bonham lick over and over, and they aren't bad drummers, their minds are just to narrow. Once you learn how to make the drums a form of expression you start playing them, not just hitting them. This is what jazz drummers do so well. Jazz expands the mind.
hithatrollz 1 year ago 29
@hithatrollz man you have the best way of explaining drums i'm gonna use this if it's k when my friend the guitarist says that drums arent an instrument
itsmiketehdrummerguy 3 months ago
@hithatrollz you are totally right but are you saying that John Bonham is a bad drummer??
cuz if you are saying it you are stupid!
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what technique is this??
willforty2 1 year ago
tell you why art is my man. 'cause he can give you a story with a single hit. the story of his heart soul and people. it's like an instantaneous thing. some have a lot of talent, and then there are some that you can tell are returning back to earth to evolve the instrument, spiritually. Art is that brother. makes me cry when i hear him play.
jinalanguniafrika 1 year ago 7
yeah to be fair metal has its place, lots of good metal drummers (who use every drum of their massive kits) i do perfer jazz and jazz drummers. i find that in these 3 solos they didn't exp[lore the drums as much as they have done in other vids though:( still very noce though! i love all 3!
xotankox 1 year ago
i like how max roach is jus groovin his head to their solos, as jones stares him down during his lol
RITMOTAMBOR 1 year ago
Art Blakey won this competition, closely second is Max Roach and the very last is elvin jones in my opinion
hhhooorrrssseee 1 year ago
Lol Blakeys hair...
weskoki 1 year ago
First time i see an early jazz drummer playing match grip !
ThemJazzyBeats 1 year ago
Max's triplets at 0:35 are very interesting - ll f rr f - - - -
tomlangedrums 1 year ago
The Art of Drumming
konbitkreyol 1 year ago
@obdrummer1997 if he listened to him he was influenced by him
that's the way music works guys
doesn't matter who came first or who came last
did I really HAVE to explain this ?
ishredu 1 year ago
My jaw is on the floor...
AndyVintheD 1 year ago
Where was Elvin?
johnnylance 1 year ago
Max and Elvin have no groove imo. I could listen to Art Blakey for days. Regarding my comment earlier, I meant to say that Bonham had been influenced "by" Art Blakey. So please stop sending me negative comments about this.
Ixtee1979 1 year ago
@Ixtee1979 there's of course nothing wrong with liking art blakey the most, but who are you to state that max roach and elvin jones have no groove? that's plain silly.
bertdockx 1 year ago
thats crazy
ccccyyyrruuussss 1 year ago
John Bonham must have been influenced Art Blakey, I hear alot of similarities. Hi-Hat Timing and Power.
Ixtee1979 1 year ago
@Ixtee1979 I hope your kidding! Cause by saying Bonham influenced Blakey makes you sound so childish!!!!! Bonham (and Keith Moon) were really into jazz growing up and listened to the likes of Blakey, Elvin Jones, Philly Joe, Papa Jo, Max Roach to name a few!
rushour144 1 year ago
I like the way Max swings and plays 4's but I'm not knocked out by his solos.
plangentmusic 1 year ago
@plangentmusic You haven't heard the right solos: Try his duo records with Anthony Braxton, Dollar Brand, Cecil Taylor, or, especially, The Long March with Archie Shepp- there are a few solos on there that match total technical command to a viciousness that he rarely displayed.
DarkeningSkies1 9 months ago
Elvins a beast
DeanIgnacio 1 year ago
Blakey is a Powerhouse! And Elvin Jones looks like a Giant. Seriously, he must be like 6'4"!
deltadogful 1 year ago
well that was some intense drumming on Max's part
ghdtjdqhd 1 year ago
i like art blakey, in MPO
mrkennedy4321 1 year ago
nobody plays like you art
solomanhill 1 year ago
The three giants!
helluvagun 1 year ago 2
Art Blakey is the second one that comes up.
Dirtbike778 1 year ago
Art Blakey had the "tude" and the fire. His solos were more powerful and lively. He also experimented more and incorporated more ideas. (not just a theme).
Acrylicdrums 1 year ago
wtf...i wanted to hear elvin
HippieDrummer06 1 year ago
what year???
HippieDrummer06 1 year ago
The last guy, who I think is Art Blakey is the sickest........I could be wrong about who it is but he is the best solo here, I think.
DrewKazinskY4209 1 year ago
deep man, deep.
speedoflite1 1 year ago
buzz roll at 4:21 is crazy clean
sicock86 1 year ago
Damn, that max roach was just cruisin thru his solo like a mega profesional. More a Caddilac cruising from New York to California and Alaska with no problems.
BNforever2009 2 years ago
omg look at elvin face!!!!
protobuster 2 years ago
great bass and hi hat timing and the flams are sublime
Cooder74 2 years ago
Thanks ef!
I figured as much.
Jp
jpritch2 2 years ago
where was this filmed??
this cant be a u.s. audience...
too appreciative.
jp
jpritch2 2 years ago 2
england
EvilEvilFlow 2 years ago
i love the sound of the first guys hi hats, is that elvin?
thewirecollection 2 years ago
The first guy is max roach
Felisillo 2 years ago
if i was in the audience i'd be going nuts, jumping out of my seat and shit haha
SetTheStageForMe 2 years ago
is it just me or does art use almost no rudiments?
Bosphorus92 2 years ago
I like the third guy although elvins just as good...
thelawya 2 years ago
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bigxjon91 2 years ago
cool vid keep it up
xxxrandomjamezxxx 2 years ago
i just noticed that Art Blakely looks a lot like Bill Cosby. lol
Jaytee1227 2 years ago 3
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it sounds wack they got no rythm
neonjunior69 2 years ago
Wow... I can't believe you said that.
bomberbadj 2 years ago
Go live with the devil..... ITS AN EXPRESSION DUMMY!
drummaboi1234 2 years ago
thank you for the posting! that gave me the chills!
jazzaheadandbehind 2 years ago
art is really having fun
protobuster 2 years ago 2
waiting for it to load dammit but i know its gunna be good groovin haha;-)
carma626 2 years ago
I'm gonna guess this is somewhere between 1958 and 1964. Anyone know for sure?
malcolmpalm 2 years ago
Elvin is so intense listening to Max.
Jazzanswer 2 years ago 5
Every time AB comes in right after Max Roach finishes the last repetition of his theme a huge smile finds its way to my face...
Lardlad95 2 years ago 2
To SayJonosz...and others like him, yr so right i don't know all of you and i didn't mean to offend you, i apologize to all whom what i wrote simply doesn't apply...however i still feel that there are alot of misconceptions about many things that need to be examined and i know that social-conditioning and that certain perceptions that took centuries to create and to pass on and to establish firm paradigms don't just disappear overnight...
mysticlion5 2 years ago
Miles Davis was playin' a gig once in the late 60s'. The Black Panthers were there and told Miles he shouldn't play with a White Bass player. Miles retorted,"That's not a White Bass Player, that's MY Bass Player!"
lemonite1 2 years ago 56
You don't fuck with Miles.
Bluesmen88 2 years ago 11
@Bluesmen88 I wouldn't fuck Miles at gunpoint, but I know some ladies my momma's age who did, and....oh never mind, it's agin me religion to pass on bad news...just don't put "Miles" where he didn't earn the spot! Feet of clay, ha, ha, it's always the little short chicks and the kiddies who notice the shoes, the feet of clay, hide in shrubbery! Decide how this post is---I'll wait...Be safe, everyone, love one another, and never fail to pat the kitties!
ohyppest1 10 months ago
@ohyppest1 Miles was always the least talented in his groups! He was actually a little... S H I T !
Helslinky 10 months ago
@Helslinky - No. He had the talent to assemble some of the greatest ensembles in the history of American music. It's a gift to lead a band. He also had a way of playing that was so unique, that several people emulate it to this day. He certainly didn't seem like the easiest person to get along with, but you can't say anything bad about his musical talent.
holygroove2 10 months ago
@Helslinky you are outta your effin mind!!
jsoul99 9 months ago
@lemonite1 Now that's classic Miles. hahahaha
cavaleer 1 year ago
@lemonite1
Miles certainly knew how to put things in
perspective! And as for his music, he
constantly ventured into unknown
territory in search of new, innovative
ways to express himself. That dude had
a fearless attitude, just like Jaco.
Pastorius333 1 year ago
@lemonite1 thank you
skatingcanhurt 1 year ago
@lemonite1 And still he absconded with Cleanhead's Four and Tune Up...win some, lose some...Ben Webster said, on being introduced to my late great white brilliant tenor player Rick Davis, "He plays good for a little white cat" Ben said, "Sh*t, man, soul ain't got no color"
ohyppest1 11 months ago
@lemonite1
Dave Holland ? Cool story ^^
FunkySkunk90 11 months ago
@lemonite1
I knew a whole bunch of what you call "Black panthers" and race had wy little to do with it, me being a little ofay chick, welcomed anyway like Sly & the Family---I say it again! Soul has no color!
ohyppest1 10 months ago
@ohyppest1 Well that is totally incorrect according to 'lemonite1' & the 'Black Panthers' themselves.
Helslinky 10 months ago
AB's solo there...one of my favourite drum solos ever. Long live the true legends of drumming.
Shove yer metal up yer arse.
NewBreedOfDrummer 2 years ago 4
Someone needs to adjust the tracking on the VCR.
ststafford 2 years ago
I am trying to learn jazz drums but it is hard for a lefty who plays open on a right handed kit. I have taught myself so I do not know much theory, I just play off of feeling. But this video is my inspiration to learn everything i can and get better. Truly beautiful.
guitardude1230 2 years ago 2
just flip everything over to the other side and you should be good. Go with what feels comfortable for you.
sarizmendez19 2 years ago
Haha I have tried, but I am right footed and cant work the hi hat with my right if my life depended on it. I have tried every setup possible and open normal is the best I can get. It just makes certain rhythms very hard to play right.
guitardude1230 2 years ago
Awesome.
I think musically you're at an advantage being a lefty on a right handed set-up. You're naturally able to approach fills with a different sticking to most drummers playing that kit, yet still comfortable with the layout.
Keep working at it.
ignarukih 2 years ago 2
put the ride on the left side...that's a good place to start.
I am left handed too but I play drums right handed...it was just the way I learned because I saw every other drummer I knew play like that and in the long run it helps me a bit with keeping my left and right hands even.
playswithpassion 2 years ago
Keep with the open style. Your back will be into it and that.
MrBatfish 2 years ago
@guitardude1230 I am a right handed drummer, who plays open/left handed on a right handed set. my dad (who is a lefty) taught me how to play when i was 10, and so i play like he did (lefty open on a right handed set up). I have my ride on the right hand side though because i have more control with it over there.
I would move the ride to the (snare side), and the crash to the floor tom side (ie swap sides). maybe even get an extra ride or crash to go opposites to have more options
hoffman912 1 year ago
Oh I have plenty of options haha but I did the same with my ride. Its next to my hi hat now. Then I have 2 crashes per hand and a china on my right. You can see it in some of the vids I have of my band if you want. Ive found my comfort position for sure. Thanks for sharing!
guitardude1230 1 year ago
assymetrical, polyrhythmic, creativity in motion, talkin' wit it, funk, motherland, you caucasians just don't know how to appreciate the intelligence of emotions freely growing beyond quantifiable mathematic scientific time-keeping stuff, imagination in tune with things beyond rationality, ancetral magik is actually a deep knowledge of nature beyond the western notion of subduing and controlling it rather allowing it to be itself yet harnessing it...
mysticlion5 2 years ago
lmao YOU CAUCASIANS
dont stereotype us caucasians, please?
acting as if u know us all
SayJanosz 2 years ago
Lol I just wondered how many of the people that tells us Caucasians know what the Caucase is ..?
WAMEDJO 2 years ago
They should listen to Boogie Down Productions - You Must Learn!
harryshand 2 years ago
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cozy cole is better by far,,,all this is thump thump hows that drumming ,take a look at real drummers ,cole rich kurpa ,,,or louis bellson 4 top class drummers,,,on this vid these guys are 2 rate ,,,class always shows not in this case
elvischevy 2 years ago
you wanna know the best thing about jazz drummers...they have some of the most basic kit setups in the world and they can still maek them sound 1,000,000,000,000,000 times more better than the metal drummers who have these massive kits that they don't even use half of. Jazz drummers are the most amazing kinda of drummers ever...adn maybe even the greatest musicians ever
mrmcevilweevil 2 years ago 42
Exactly. It's never the kit - it's always the drummer.
spacitydrummer4JC 1 year ago
@mrmcevilweevil Thats because you dont know good metal drummers, you just know stupid guys like joey jordisson.
Check george kollias.
PeponeNRC 1 year ago
@PeponeNRC wait wait wait wait wait just a second. you think i don't know good metal drummers??? i'm going to name these drummers and tell you this, i know more about awesome metal drummers than you think:
justin foley, kevin choiral, morgan rose, matt greiner, JORDAN MANICO, craig nunemacher, Jean Dolabella, Max Kolesne, Paul Mazurkiewicz, Branden Saller.
You think i don't know my metal, well don't don't judge a book by it's cover...or don't judge a drummer by his comments on youtube
mrmcevilweevil 1 year ago
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@mrmcevilweevil
Metal drummers has normally as inspirations drummers like George Kollias,Dave Lombardo, Derek Roddy, Pete Sandoval , Daniel Erlandsson and others shurely.
Talking about extreme metal drumming that is shurely the one you hate more, you know the one of the blastbeasts.
Is not swing is a different style but most of them can swing. Cause i dont if you know but most of the metal drummers play jazz and blues. Because metal came from it. I mean seriously check and look information.
PeponeNRC 1 year ago
@PeponeNRC
. Metal drummers has normally as inspirations drummers like George Kollias,Dave Lombardo, Derek Roddy, Pete Sandoval , Daniel Erlandsson and others shurely.
Talking about extreme metal drumming that is shurely the one you hate more, you know the one of the blastbeasts. Is not a swing is a different style but most of them can swing. Cause i dont if you know but most of the metal drummers play jazz and blues. Because metal came from it. I mean seriously check and look information.
PeponeNRC 1 year ago
@PeponeNRC i have a question for you...do you think i don't know this. of course i like jazz drumming, but that doesn't mean i have to only like that one style. i love metal and that's why iw as able to name all those metal drummers off the top of my head. i love all styles of music and jazz is one of them, which i happen to enjoy quite alot. that doesn't mean i don't like metal
you've got to understand a little about me, i'm more than a drummer, i'm a musician and i enjoy...(will continue)
mrmcevilweevil 1 year ago
@mrmcevilweevil all kinds of instruments, but i prefer drums. i don't favoratise them because they are easy to make loud noises out of, i chose them because they're alot harder to make a true sound out of. and i believe that in jazz, that sound is truely brought out alot more than most other styles of music. i'm not saying that it doesn't come out in metal, but i'm saying TO ME...jazz drumming jumps off the page alot more
mrmcevilweevil 1 year ago
@mrmcevilweevil may i also point out that yes you have said that metal drumming comes from jazz drumming...prooving the point that one of the best drumming styles has branched out into so much more like METAL, ROCK, alternative...basically jazz has helped every kind of music evolve...may i also say that if you think i don't know my history about jazz then let me tell you that jazz drumming orginated from marching bands and the blues style of music coming into the scene back then.
mrmcevilweevil 1 year ago
@mrmcevilweevil last but not least...if you don't like jazz drumming why are you watching a jazz drumming solo???
mrmcevilweevil 1 year ago
@mrmcevilweevil EXACTLY. Jazz drummers ruin my ability to enjoy 98% of rock/metal drummers. And the best rock/metal drummers I've seen have jazz roots, so there ya go.
alloyjane 1 year ago
@mrmcevilweevil YESSS well said my friend
ratamacue14 1 year ago
@mrmcevilweevil agreed. However you're really just comparing apples and oranges. I grew up playing jazz drums yet I can fully appreciate death metal drummers like Steve Asheim who are so technically skilled.
jerseyimperial 1 year ago
@mrmcevilweevil i see what ur saying, but thats not always true. Look at louis bellson, same sized kit as lars ulrich, i play jazz and my kits on the bigger side, this is back when a 5 peice was too big, they played with only what they needed, metal drummers like options, mike portnoys kits are huge cause he like lots of options, and also the jazz drummers your refering too are the geats like these 3 above.
shakakamooroar 1 year ago
@shakakamooroar ok thank you i get it, and i don't mean to seem like i'm snapping at you but seriously, i posted that like ages ago, i've grown in maturity of music, both in jazz, metal, samba, mambo, rock, punk...everything, so now i know what's going on
mrmcevilweevil 1 year ago
@shakakamooroar The size of the kit? Are you serious?? Maybe it's the player! Brushes on a phone book! If it cooks, it cooks! What's next? Nina Simone's earrings!? Music! Music! Feeling! OK!
ohyppest1 11 months ago
@mrmcevilweevil why thanks...thought nobody noticed!
ohyppest1 11 months ago
that damn buzz roll blakey does is so og status! i need to get in the shed jeezzz
jrock162000 2 years ago
Blakey is awesome here, rock tribal groove, just great
pyroba33 2 years ago
Can you even imagine yourself in that theater that night? Absolutely incredible.
MrMatthewsullivan 2 years ago
jeeesus that groove he starts at 4:47 is VICIOUS
jaydude214 2 years ago
Great classic jazz! whos who left to right? im guessing max roach, art blakey, elvin jones?
drumm1n09 2 years ago
01:40 WOMAN IZ NOT AMUSED
BAkos 2 years ago 6
When are they amused?!!!
themilksnatcher 2 years ago
I love the way elvin jones joins art blakey towards the end........what a way to end the drum solo......
tuberhatesonions 2 years ago
who are they zooming in on @ 1:33 ?
TheRealManzilla 2 years ago
Check out extremely rare ex-Duke Ellington drummer Dave Black on YouTube. Incredible skill never moves his wrists let alone his arms. JoJo Mayer plays tradional grip push pull a "Buddy Rich secret". He's never seen this extremely rare footage just before his passing. You can see his technique up close because it's shot from the side. You can see a real one hand roll. Also plays incredible double bass drums as did all Duke's drummer I know of.
giacblanc 2 years ago
amazing!
bendinggreenvans 2 years ago
damn...blakey walks out thinking "hey are you guys done fucking around.....i wanna play some shit" hahaha no disrespect for elvin or max.....art is just art
groupieoftheyear 2 years ago 5
Check out 18 minute drum battle between Art and Ginger Baker at 72 Munich Olympics way better than this, not even close. On "Ginger Baker".Check out Dave Black 9 min drum solo on You Tube ;best left hand if ever seen also double bass. Only time I heard of him is in Giger's instructional video. Most important very musical. Played in Duke's band. Might be only video on him.
giacblanc 2 years ago
Beautiful vintage work. The simplicity of jazz proves that LESS is definitely MORE.
charlessavarese 2 years ago 8
I love the fact these jazz cats didnt use massive kits,so much achieved with so little.Fantastic
onlyjoetee 2 years ago 4
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blakely is garbage
speepizoop 2 years ago
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agreed
tamarockstar45 2 years ago
I wonder what would have happened if you said that to his face?
oforiperry 2 years ago 2
dude doesnt matter what they think
adzug 2 years ago
Does anyone know what year this was?? All of these videos are amazing but I think Blakey is definitely my favourite.
Vans93 2 years ago
damn...
bjazzer795 2 years ago
When Mr. Blakey came and stood behind the kit, it looked like a little kid's setup!!!
Wish these vids had been continuous;
this is hella cool!!
hotdrumchick 2 years ago 3
Max Roach , Just amazing , so musical
drums127 2 years ago
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these r sum ugly niggaz but they are amazing.!
ThEmAcHINe201111 2 years ago
would take your woman at a drop of a high hat! a guy like you needs a good ass whippin' go say some crap like that to a black man's face.
oforiperry 2 years ago
Did anyone hear Blakeys bass drum stop? Did anyone see his hi-hat stop?
dropfan195 2 years ago
1st video - Elvin Jones
2nd Video - Max Roach
3rd video (dis vid) - Art Blakey
ryt?
JjuSstiNn47 2 years ago 5
what's the name of the first drummer in the video?
wdsa8d 2 years ago
Max Roach
Svetty00 2 years ago
first drummer in the video is max roach, second in the video art blakey.
franco212 2 years ago
buddy rich, however, was also an emotional wreck with anger problems and little to no consideration for the other musicians in his band.. :[
but also... ART BLAKEY. GOD DAMN.
Aids343 2 years ago
elvin is zonin out the whole time in the background
jackson420 2 years ago
The stare at 0:32....haha
doppleganger3288 2 years ago 3
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zildj1an 2 years ago
Music is about enjoyment and entertainment ONLY......... its not a contest to see who is the fastest player is, if you are into cats that play really fast all the time then thats fine but even Buddy Rich himself has said thats its all about conveying that raw emotion and if a player sounds a certain way then thats fine......There was more to Buddy Rich than just chops, he could swing the band really well, he could play brushes and he was a great writer and buisnessman.
JIMFISHES1 2 years ago
well I guess that's all opinion, now isn't it?
PROUDTOBEFAT 2 years ago
Interesting how Blakey plays with the small end of the sticks for the softer more subtle parts and with the fat end for the power, louder parts. This was not common back then but everybody does it now it seems.
tbcass 2 years ago
you can see the fire in their eyes
Jicim 3 years ago
blakey's high hat never stops.
dropfan195 3 years ago
2:35
dropfan195 3 years ago
dont test the old skool!
dropfan195 3 years ago
I think These are the greastist drummer off all these are the Origanal, the Pioneers, The Father of the Drum Game RIP Max, Elvin, Earl Miller, Buddy Rich thank you for you done for us as Drummers today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BigRobo31 3 years ago
MY GAWD!!!!!!!
BigRobo31 3 years ago
good grief... watchin these guys play is something else. i have to agree with rapa, graceful is a great way to discribe their playing. Cant get much more naturally talented than these guys.
procussionaire 3 years ago
so folks sumtimes muzik is a competition
but competition my eyes is whoz got betta style and control so digg it white boiz...!!!
so jus do u and and smoke tha kit...!!!!
xxxxrhodesxxxx 3 years ago