@chris371 that's so dumb man.. Those guys don't look at that in the NFL.. If you can play, then you're gonna get pt... If not then you won't. If you get hit it's cause someone else did their job.. And trust me whether you are white or black, if you're playing a defensive position you're gonna enjoy hitting anybody, because that's how you get your paycheck!! And @youngkuttie you are exactly right man.
Why are you guys calling him racist he's not god I swear you have nothing better to do with your life then sit on the computer and be an ignorant little prick get a life seriously and I'm pretty sure Toby would kick your ass
@chris371 Oh really when they playing with a White QB STFU with your racist shit your the one one who makes this world like it is hope your fat ass have a heart attack
@kleamat Tavaris Jackson and Joe Webb were white? last time i checked no, and they both suck, yet have been given opportunities to start, Jackson has been given plenty and really sucks, he can't scramble that well and if rarely throws a pass over 5 yards, yet Tebow does average and shows promise in 3 games and they are ready to dismiss him....forever. Yeah only blacks are allowed to be dual threat quarterbacks, Matt Jones, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost you guys have to be other positions.
oh yeah and there was a locker room devide when they got Favre and Jackson was not the starter, the black players were pissed, they would rather have a mediocre Jackson than a hall of famer
@dwid1984 u dont now shit the first time webb started He completed 17 of 26 passes for 195 yards and rushed for another 31 yards on six carries and beat the eagles ass 24-14 u dumb racist fuck
@maroontide31 the first time he played, technically it wasn't a start but he played most of the game, he had 15 of 26 for 129, 2 interceptions no tds 6 rushes 38 yards 1 td. 195 yards passing is impressive? In the 3 game stretch he went 54 of 89 477 yds 0 tds 3 interceptions, 17 attempts 104 yards 2 tds. A whopping 5.36 yards per attempt which means he was captain checkdown completing 5 yard passes. Tebow gets bashed for going 41 of 82 654 4 td 3 int 31 rush 199 yard 3 tds 8 yards per attempt
you know what it says to me when you can complete 60 percent of your passes on 26 attempts and not have 200 yards? that you playin scared like a little bitch, the dude would make one read and either run or check it down. Tebow had the balls to throw it down the field. Joe Webb had tons of completions under 10 yards. Not to mention he had Adrian Peterson and one of the top backs in last year's draft in Gerhart. You don't run the ball to set up the 9 yard pass, you run the ball to set up the 50 yd
@dwid1984 Reading some of your comments, you seem like one of those crazy racist who think This guy should be starting over AP and Peyton Hillis is the best RB ever. Also no blacks could be an effective QB in the NFl......O and Craig James is the best RB ever
@dwid1984 Judging by this comment I will just assume I was right about you. Because we all know Brad Smith, Antwaan Randle El , Hines Ward, Michael Robinson and many others had the opportunity. Plus Crouch and Frost were OPTION Qb's. OPTION QB"S NEVER get the chance to play QB in the NFL. DO you hear blacks complaining about Joshua Nesbitt not getting the chance? Or how about Jamaal Lord? You know, Nebraska's starting QB after Crouch. Its never about race, its ALWAYS about TALENT
@ahjrome Cam Newton was an OPTION quarterback. Tim Tebow was an OPTION quarterback. Tebow did it for years, more passing than running, Newton does it for one, Newton is considered an automatic start his first game and Tebow "needs more time" and its not until a horrible start that he gets a chance to prove himself. Pat White was drafted as a qb, he was an option qb, the zone read is just the same as the old option crap.
@dwid1984 Cam Newton and Tim Tebow were not option QB's. They were spread QB's. Option Qb's don't throw the ball 300x's a year. Case and point Eric Crouch never through more than 190 passes in a season. The zone read was just an aspect of the offense they ran in college. Alex Smith ran the EXACT same offense as Tim Tebow did in college and was drafted number 1 overall, so it can't be about race. And Pat White was drafted as a " wildcat " QB. Which is why he's no longer in the NFL.
you know who was an OPTION quarterback. MCNABB. Peyton Hillis and Craig James are the best runningback at the same time? you surely are a bright person
Jacob Hester, rushed for over 1k his senior season leading his team to the national championship...just happens to be drafted to a team with a superstart in LT. Brian Leonard showed promise as a rb and ran a 4.49 at the combine, just happened to be drafted to a team with superstar Steven Jackson, and now Toby Gerhart, Heisman finalist, the closest race in history, just happens to be drafted to a team with a superstar back even though plenty of teams could have used him.
btw did Hester ever get a chance to run the ball once LT declined? nope, they gave it to a bigger, slower Tolbert, while effective, not as talented as Hester, and slower. So a smaller faster guy blocking for a bigger slower guy...sound familiar? happened with Hillis and Moreno. Did Leonard get a chance once he went to another team? nope, they are going with Benson with his impressive 3.5 ypc last year and Scot who hasn't done squat, no chance for Leonard to get the main reps when Benson is suspn
the same thing is going to happen to Gerhart, Peterson will decline or he will be traded and people will forget that Toby was ever a great runningback.
Hester is not better than Tolbert. What he did in college means ZERO in the pro's. Plus Darren Sproles was the back up getting the bulk of the work when LT declined. And you lost me with the Hillis & Moreno reference because Hillis is the bigger slower guy in that situation. And Hillis was blocking for Moreno. The same goes for Brian Leonard. Who had his chance in his rookie yr when he avg only 3.5 ypc. Though I do think Leonard should play over Scott..but not Benson. Leonard career 3.9 ypc
@ahjrome umm.. Moreno ran in the 4.6 range, Hillis ran a 4.59 and weighs 240 pounds, which why it doesn't make sense for him to be blocking for someone who is smaller and runs a similar speed. Moreno has shown 0 game breaking ability. When the Chargers needed Sproles, he was shut DOWN with like 3 ypc. Brian Leonard started when 4 out of 5 offensive line starters were out, Jackson averaged 3.5 when these starters were out. And they din't really use Hillis as fb McDaniels used single back sets
Moreno ran a 4.55, but it makes perfect sense for the bigger guy to be blocking for the smaller guy. While I agree that Moreno hasnt really shown much in his 3 years with Denver. The Brian Leonard thing just seems like an excuse to me. Jackson actually avg 4.2 ypc that year. And what's the excuse for Hillis this year? His avg is 3.5 ypc. And I dont what you to think I am a white RB hater. I say the same thing about Arian Foster. Do it for more than one year. Alot of RB's have had one good year.
Jacob Hester is the Starting fullback for the Chargers. Dont expect me2 feel sorry for him. Brian Leonard was a fullback in college. He's the back up RB and fullback for the Bengals. Don't expect me2 feel sorry for him either. Toby Gerhart is just in a bad situation. I do Feel sorry for him. And there's PLENTY of black RB's who were great college players that didnt pan out as a pro. Everybodies games doesnt always translate to the pro's.
its funny how Hillis had 1600 yards from scrimmage last season and had 522 yards from scrimmage in 6 games he started for Denver , yet it is considered a "fluke" while Tolbert is considered legit, not to mention guys like Blount. Benson averaged 3.5 ypc and is doing very average. Leonard did block for Ray Rice in college, but was a halfback his junior year. Yes college success doesn't always translate to the pros, but every other back gets a chance to prove themselves at tailback, not Hester
Hillis played in 12 games that year with Denver not 6. Although he did get the bulk of his stats in the 2nd half of the year. Blount avg 5.0 ypc last year and 4.3 this year. Benson sucks, I will never understand why he continues to start for anybody. Leonard played RB his Frosh & Soph years for Rutgers.His last two years he was the FB. As far as Hester goes, he gets a chance to prove himself everyday in practice. Leonard I think deserves a shot....Im from jersey, so i'd like him to do well.
Matthews is going to run the ball this year. He's 10th in the NFL in rushing and avg 4.9 ypc. He also has 20 rec for 261 yds. How can you say Matthews is always injured when this is only his second year? He's played in every game thus far. So if you're trying to convince me that Hester should get the bulk of the work ,I'd say your crazy. Tolbert isn't doing well running this year, but he doing well catching passes. 28 rec 231 yds and 2 TD's. You may have a case for Hester over Tolbert
@ahjrome Matthews is injured...as we speak he is questionable with a calf injury. The only reason why he might get a chance to play because he happened to get injured when they had a bye week, otherwise he wouldve missed a game. He missed quite a few games last year because of injury, and missed time every single season in college due to injury. He hasn't been able to stay healthy for one complete season since high school, if thats not a red flag, I don't know what is
@dwid1984 Dude you put too much into those " injury " reports. Patriots listed Tom Brady on the " injury " report for 3 straight years.The reason he didnt pratice last week was because he had a root canal done. Yes he has a calf injury, but he isnt expected to miss any games. You right about him in college though, but he missed only one game his last year in college. That was due to a concussion....But they signed him to a 5 yr 26M deal. To much money invested in him to play Hester
@ahjrome so he didn't miss time last year for injuries? Thats the whole point, why spend a 1st round on Matthews when there was talks of Hester replacing LT? Why draft Hester in the first place? he was questionable as a fullback because he has the size of a tailback. In fact hes probably the smallest fullback in the league, there are tailbacks bigger than him.
@dwid1984 Yea he missed just about all of last year. I think he played only 5 games. They drafted Mathews because they obviously dont see Hester as a feature back. But hester isn't small, he's 5'11 235....And I dont remember talks of him replacing LT. They frachised Sproles during LT's last year in SD. So I would assume They looked at Sproles as the replacement. That didnt work so they drafted Mathews. They drafted Hester to make constributions to the team. He's doing it as the FB
@chris371 a black position? racist statement it's called a football position. Is QB a white position? whats O line a big white guy position? The fact that people gave you thumbs up on this shows me people aren't thinking straight and that's why the black/white BS still exist.
fatty patty may be big but he could no take out "Toby The Great"!! Toby is da man taking hits form Williams and Brinkley and just gets up and goes for more!
Greenway blasted him ???? Why can't he do that when it counts like in a.....GAME !!!!!!
690169 1 month ago
@chris371 that's so dumb man.. Those guys don't look at that in the NFL.. If you can play, then you're gonna get pt... If not then you won't. If you get hit it's cause someone else did their job.. And trust me whether you are white or black, if you're playing a defensive position you're gonna enjoy hitting anybody, because that's how you get your paycheck!! And @youngkuttie you are exactly right man.
dewaun32 1 month ago
This guy the Vikings secret secondary weapon... This guy is a great pick up!
Whitemoon379 1 month ago
Always some idiots making this about race....He's AP's backup, do you really think he's going to get much PT
ahjrome 4 months ago
I would hate being AP's backup, but good thing Leslie is a good coach and uses his talent.
DrewInWashington 6 months ago
spencer stein highlights .. another white runngback
wearewildcats24 9 months ago
ha his dads my pe teacher and tob was in my pe class running on our school tredmills hahhahha and it was like watever hahaha
norcohigh2014 10 months ago
once he gets traded to a team with mabye not the best running back in the NFL! he will start to play great again
sirbee42 11 months ago
Why are you guys calling him racist he's not god I swear you have nothing better to do with your life then sit on the computer and be an ignorant little prick get a life seriously and I'm pretty sure Toby would kick your ass
tpoorman 1 year ago
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Toby Gerhart is a racist white supremacist. I would hit his slow weak white ass too if he was on my time.
TheHomelandDefender 1 year ago
@TheHomelandDefender ur a dumbass
The1Parsenic 1 year ago
@TheHomelandDefender since went was running the 40 in 4.5 slow? lmao
dropouts 1 year ago
@TheHomelandDefender look at peyton hillis, not slow, also not racist.....dont try to spread hate
gorillaz2424 1 year ago
Thugs like taking cheap shots on Toby, because they dont like seeing a white guy playing a black position.
chris371 1 year ago 37
@chris371 Oh really when they playing with a White QB STFU with your racist shit your the one one who makes this world like it is hope your fat ass have a heart attack
kleamat 1 year ago
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@kleamat shut up damn nigger
JamaicanBoy41 1 year ago
@kleamat Tavaris Jackson and Joe Webb were white? last time i checked no, and they both suck, yet have been given opportunities to start, Jackson has been given plenty and really sucks, he can't scramble that well and if rarely throws a pass over 5 yards, yet Tebow does average and shows promise in 3 games and they are ready to dismiss him....forever. Yeah only blacks are allowed to be dual threat quarterbacks, Matt Jones, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost you guys have to be other positions.
dwid1984 6 months ago
oh yeah and there was a locker room devide when they got Favre and Jackson was not the starter, the black players were pissed, they would rather have a mediocre Jackson than a hall of famer
dwid1984 6 months ago
@dwid1984 u dont now shit the first time webb started He completed 17 of 26 passes for 195 yards and rushed for another 31 yards on six carries and beat the eagles ass 24-14 u dumb racist fuck
maroontide31 6 months ago
@maroontide31 the first time he played, technically it wasn't a start but he played most of the game, he had 15 of 26 for 129, 2 interceptions no tds 6 rushes 38 yards 1 td. 195 yards passing is impressive? In the 3 game stretch he went 54 of 89 477 yds 0 tds 3 interceptions, 17 attempts 104 yards 2 tds. A whopping 5.36 yards per attempt which means he was captain checkdown completing 5 yard passes. Tebow gets bashed for going 41 of 82 654 4 td 3 int 31 rush 199 yard 3 tds 8 yards per attempt
dwid1984 6 months ago
you know what it says to me when you can complete 60 percent of your passes on 26 attempts and not have 200 yards? that you playin scared like a little bitch, the dude would make one read and either run or check it down. Tebow had the balls to throw it down the field. Joe Webb had tons of completions under 10 yards. Not to mention he had Adrian Peterson and one of the top backs in last year's draft in Gerhart. You don't run the ball to set up the 9 yard pass, you run the ball to set up the 50 yd
dwid1984 6 months ago
32 attempts against DETROIT of all teams, 62 percent completed, 145 yards 1 interception lol. Yeah thats brillaint right there.
dwid1984 6 months ago
and the worst part, the teammates never said anything bad about Webb or Jackson, unlike Brandon Lloyd with Tebow
dwid1984 6 months ago
@dwid1984 Reading some of your comments, you seem like one of those crazy racist who think This guy should be starting over AP and Peyton Hillis is the best RB ever. Also no blacks could be an effective QB in the NFl......O and Craig James is the best RB ever
ahjrome 4 months ago
@dwid1984 Judging by this comment I will just assume I was right about you. Because we all know Brad Smith, Antwaan Randle El , Hines Ward, Michael Robinson and many others had the opportunity. Plus Crouch and Frost were OPTION Qb's. OPTION QB"S NEVER get the chance to play QB in the NFL. DO you hear blacks complaining about Joshua Nesbitt not getting the chance? Or how about Jamaal Lord? You know, Nebraska's starting QB after Crouch. Its never about race, its ALWAYS about TALENT
ahjrome 4 months ago
@ahjrome Cam Newton was an OPTION quarterback. Tim Tebow was an OPTION quarterback. Tebow did it for years, more passing than running, Newton does it for one, Newton is considered an automatic start his first game and Tebow "needs more time" and its not until a horrible start that he gets a chance to prove himself. Pat White was drafted as a qb, he was an option qb, the zone read is just the same as the old option crap.
dwid1984 4 months ago
@dwid1984 Cam Newton and Tim Tebow were not option QB's. They were spread QB's. Option Qb's don't throw the ball 300x's a year. Case and point Eric Crouch never through more than 190 passes in a season. The zone read was just an aspect of the offense they ran in college. Alex Smith ran the EXACT same offense as Tim Tebow did in college and was drafted number 1 overall, so it can't be about race. And Pat White was drafted as a " wildcat " QB. Which is why he's no longer in the NFL.
ahjrome 4 months ago
you know who was an OPTION quarterback. MCNABB. Peyton Hillis and Craig James are the best runningback at the same time? you surely are a bright person
dwid1984 4 months ago
McNabb was not a option QB. My Peyton Hillis and Craig James comment went over your head apparently
ahjrome 4 months ago
Jacob Hester, rushed for over 1k his senior season leading his team to the national championship...just happens to be drafted to a team with a superstart in LT. Brian Leonard showed promise as a rb and ran a 4.49 at the combine, just happened to be drafted to a team with superstar Steven Jackson, and now Toby Gerhart, Heisman finalist, the closest race in history, just happens to be drafted to a team with a superstar back even though plenty of teams could have used him.
dwid1984 4 months ago
btw did Hester ever get a chance to run the ball once LT declined? nope, they gave it to a bigger, slower Tolbert, while effective, not as talented as Hester, and slower. So a smaller faster guy blocking for a bigger slower guy...sound familiar? happened with Hillis and Moreno. Did Leonard get a chance once he went to another team? nope, they are going with Benson with his impressive 3.5 ypc last year and Scot who hasn't done squat, no chance for Leonard to get the main reps when Benson is suspn
dwid1984 4 months ago
the same thing is going to happen to Gerhart, Peterson will decline or he will be traded and people will forget that Toby was ever a great runningback.
dwid1984 4 months ago
Hester is not better than Tolbert. What he did in college means ZERO in the pro's. Plus Darren Sproles was the back up getting the bulk of the work when LT declined. And you lost me with the Hillis & Moreno reference because Hillis is the bigger slower guy in that situation. And Hillis was blocking for Moreno. The same goes for Brian Leonard. Who had his chance in his rookie yr when he avg only 3.5 ypc. Though I do think Leonard should play over Scott..but not Benson. Leonard career 3.9 ypc
ahjrome 4 months ago
@ahjrome umm.. Moreno ran in the 4.6 range, Hillis ran a 4.59 and weighs 240 pounds, which why it doesn't make sense for him to be blocking for someone who is smaller and runs a similar speed. Moreno has shown 0 game breaking ability. When the Chargers needed Sproles, he was shut DOWN with like 3 ypc. Brian Leonard started when 4 out of 5 offensive line starters were out, Jackson averaged 3.5 when these starters were out. And they din't really use Hillis as fb McDaniels used single back sets
dwid1984 4 months ago
Moreno ran a 4.55, but it makes perfect sense for the bigger guy to be blocking for the smaller guy. While I agree that Moreno hasnt really shown much in his 3 years with Denver. The Brian Leonard thing just seems like an excuse to me. Jackson actually avg 4.2 ypc that year. And what's the excuse for Hillis this year? His avg is 3.5 ypc. And I dont what you to think I am a white RB hater. I say the same thing about Arian Foster. Do it for more than one year. Alot of RB's have had one good year.
ahjrome 4 months ago
Jacob Hester is the Starting fullback for the Chargers. Dont expect me2 feel sorry for him. Brian Leonard was a fullback in college. He's the back up RB and fullback for the Bengals. Don't expect me2 feel sorry for him either. Toby Gerhart is just in a bad situation. I do Feel sorry for him. And there's PLENTY of black RB's who were great college players that didnt pan out as a pro. Everybodies games doesnt always translate to the pro's.
ahjrome 4 months ago
@ahjrome hester was considered the backup fullback a while back with Tolbert as the starting fullback
dwid1984 4 months ago
whose gonna run the ball now? Matthews is always injured and Tolbert has some nagging injuries, averaging 2.9 ypc
dwid1984 4 months ago
its funny how Hillis had 1600 yards from scrimmage last season and had 522 yards from scrimmage in 6 games he started for Denver , yet it is considered a "fluke" while Tolbert is considered legit, not to mention guys like Blount. Benson averaged 3.5 ypc and is doing very average. Leonard did block for Ray Rice in college, but was a halfback his junior year. Yes college success doesn't always translate to the pros, but every other back gets a chance to prove themselves at tailback, not Hester
dwid1984 4 months ago
Hillis played in 12 games that year with Denver not 6. Although he did get the bulk of his stats in the 2nd half of the year. Blount avg 5.0 ypc last year and 4.3 this year. Benson sucks, I will never understand why he continues to start for anybody. Leonard played RB his Frosh & Soph years for Rutgers.His last two years he was the FB. As far as Hester goes, he gets a chance to prove himself everyday in practice. Leonard I think deserves a shot....Im from jersey, so i'd like him to do well.
ahjrome 4 months ago
Matthews is going to run the ball this year. He's 10th in the NFL in rushing and avg 4.9 ypc. He also has 20 rec for 261 yds. How can you say Matthews is always injured when this is only his second year? He's played in every game thus far. So if you're trying to convince me that Hester should get the bulk of the work ,I'd say your crazy. Tolbert isn't doing well running this year, but he doing well catching passes. 28 rec 231 yds and 2 TD's. You may have a case for Hester over Tolbert
ahjrome 4 months ago
@ahjrome Matthews is injured...as we speak he is questionable with a calf injury. The only reason why he might get a chance to play because he happened to get injured when they had a bye week, otherwise he wouldve missed a game. He missed quite a few games last year because of injury, and missed time every single season in college due to injury. He hasn't been able to stay healthy for one complete season since high school, if thats not a red flag, I don't know what is
dwid1984 4 months ago
@dwid1984 Dude you put too much into those " injury " reports. Patriots listed Tom Brady on the " injury " report for 3 straight years.The reason he didnt pratice last week was because he had a root canal done. Yes he has a calf injury, but he isnt expected to miss any games. You right about him in college though, but he missed only one game his last year in college. That was due to a concussion....But they signed him to a 5 yr 26M deal. To much money invested in him to play Hester
ahjrome 4 months ago
@ahjrome so he didn't miss time last year for injuries? Thats the whole point, why spend a 1st round on Matthews when there was talks of Hester replacing LT? Why draft Hester in the first place? he was questionable as a fullback because he has the size of a tailback. In fact hes probably the smallest fullback in the league, there are tailbacks bigger than him.
dwid1984 4 months ago
@dwid1984 Yea he missed just about all of last year. I think he played only 5 games. They drafted Mathews because they obviously dont see Hester as a feature back. But hester isn't small, he's 5'11 235....And I dont remember talks of him replacing LT. They frachised Sproles during LT's last year in SD. So I would assume They looked at Sproles as the replacement. That didnt work so they drafted Mathews. They drafted Hester to make constributions to the team. He's doing it as the FB
ahjrome 4 months ago
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JamaicanBoy41 1 year ago
@chris371 my friend....... you're a fucking idiot
ahjrome 4 months ago
@chris371 RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLAYING RB.... KEEP YOUR DAMN COMMENTS TO YOURSELF JACKASS
xspikes93 3 months ago
@xspikes93 Tell that to all the black coaches.
vidlivs 3 months ago
@chris371 a black position? racist statement it's called a football position. Is QB a white position? whats O line a big white guy position? The fact that people gave you thumbs up on this shows me people aren't thinking straight and that's why the black/white BS still exist.
youngkuttie 1 month ago 3
fatty patty may be big but he could no take out "Toby The Great"!! Toby is da man taking hits form Williams and Brinkley and just gets up and goes for more!
Gerhart is a stud!!!
795re 1 year ago 12