Stewart Copeland - Drum Solo (2nd Week) David Letterman 8-24-11

[threepeater]

Stewarts always great! However, for those of you who can't record directly from the TV, please stop putting this shitty sounding crap on Youtube. Holding your cellphone up to the TV is practically retarded. Get the proper connections to your computer and welcome to 2012!

[maddymud]

there are few things that woman find more attractive then men arguing over drum solos ...

[lanndonkane]

this might be the only solo that copeland's ever done. really have not heard of him soloing ever.

[jetfreak4]

@lanndonkane The Other Way of Stopping is about as close to soloing as I've ever heard him come. He doesn't like doing them now, but did them as a kid. As Neil himself said.."Stewart Copeland once said that he never liked drum solos, but did them as a kid because anybody at that time who didn't was sneered at." The drumming on "outlandos D'Amour" and the "Regatta De Blanc" albums shows him to easily be capable of great soloing. As good an accompanist as he is, he could easily solo.

[nodrush80]

I've been listening to Rush since 74, no one ever made fun of me, must be something wrong with you. So what you're saying is that all musicians are equal, no one is better than anyone else? Take stewies cock out of your ear and listen to what Neil has recorded through the years, and what copeland has recorded, there's no question who's better, douche.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 What you appear to be saying is that Peart is god and nobody compares to him. LMAO....I can't believe you would even mention Peart and Cobham in the same sentence. Neil Peart doesn't have Cobham's strength, technique, etc...you are only one person..only a douche goes and reduces other drummers to make Neil look better. Stewart Copeland has done things Neil could never hope to do, and vice-versa. And Ian Paice absolutely tears Peart to shreds. Big kits are all show.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 Peart is a rock god, he is the greatest rock drummer of all time, you are the one dragging jazz drummmers into the debate. Cobham has no where near the power Peart has, and isn't even worth mentioning. You are the one trying to reduce Peart to an average nothing rock drummer, believe me, I'm not the only person that recognizes the mans talent, you are the only person who doesn't. There's nothing Copeland does that Peart can't. Neil is better in every aspect.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 The simple fact you would compare Peart to the jazz greats truly shows you aren't a drummer. If all you've done is listen, you clearly don't know anything about drumming. Louie Bellson, Max Roach, Art Blakey, Carl Palmer, and Eddie Shaughnessy all destroy him. And Terry Bozzio's kit dwarfs Pearts and he uses every bit of that. I will give that Peart is one of the best rock drummers, but Ginger Baker, John Bonham, Ian Paice, Copeland, and Mitch Mitchell all are competent matches.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 A great jazz drummer doesn't make a great rock drummer,that you would mention jazz drummers in the same breath as a rock legend as Peart demonstrates your lack of knowledge concerning rock.Wouldn't call palmer a jazz drummer, and Peart would tear him a new one anyway. I think you should contact Neil and tell him why he never really succeeded as a drummer, maybe give him some tips as to what he's been doing wrong these 40 years. In the rock arena, Neil is king.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 Any great jazz drummer can be a rock drummer. No rock drummer can be a jazz drummer. LMAO...Neil Peart vs. Carl Palmer....Palmer would destroy him. THere is nothing PEart can do that Carl couldn't do as good or better. I'm not reducing Neil PEart to an average nothing drummer, but I'm not going to call him the greatest drummer of all time, or the greatest rock drummer, when he clearly isn't. IS he in the top ten? Easily? Top five? Possibly. You have no knowledge of drums.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 Shut up, talent is talent you jazz snob, any decent rock drummer schooled in jazz could play jazz. Peart would fillet palmer, there's nothing palmer could do Peart couldn't do in his sleep. Neil is a top 5 drummer, #1 is top 5, idiot.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 Grow the fuck up and get an education. And don't pigeonhole me as a jazz snob. Unlike you, I actually am a drummer and understand that playing something the best jazz drummers play is far beyond the best rock drummer's capabilities. If there's nothing Palmer could do that Peart couldn't do in his sleep, describe it for me. I'm not sure you've every listened to it. You're on the defensive and arguing with many people besides me. So I'm through having this argument.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 I play drums, I don't get payed to play drums, so I wouldn't dare to call myself a drummer. Again, talent is talent, a jazz drummer isn't more talented than a rock drummer just because he chose jazz, snob.Palmer is an awesome drummer, Peart is a more complete drummer. You attacked me first, and the only one I'm arguing with. We'll let history decide who is remembered more, Peart or Palmer.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 It's not just because they chose jazz. I don't say any jazz drummer is better than any rock drummer. Buddy Rich, Elvin Jones, Louie Bellson, Billy Cobham, Art Blakey, and Max Roach all have drumming abilities Peart could only dream of, and he'd be the first to admit it. And I seriously doubt you are a drummer if you think Palmer is easier to play than Peart, or that Peart compares to the jazz greats. You're more of a peart diehard refusing to hear opinions besides your's.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 Again with the jazz, I'm talking about rock. Those are great jazz drummers, although I don't agree about abilities Peart could only dream of. It has nothing to do with who can play like who, it has to do with who played it first, what does it sound like, anyone can copy any of the greats, plenty of amateurs on you tube copying the greats, and doing a decent job of it, no one sounds like Peart, he is unique in his style and sound. You're just a Palmer diehard fan.

[nodrush80]

@nodrush80 Who was chosen to lead the salute for Buddy Rich? He is respected by more than rock fans, he is also respected by jazz greats as well. We get it already! You hate Peart and have no respect for the man's abilities, listen to the intro Letterman gave him, did anyone of the other drummers get introduced as one of the greatest drummers in rock and roll? You and your little minority opinion have no validity, your dislike of Peart and Rush has seriously clouded your judgement.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 I agree that Peart is his own drummer. I've never disputed that. But to say he has the technical prowess, speed, and skills of Carl Palmer is a joke. I'm no die-hard Palmer fan, I just state the facts. Even if Peart was chosen to lead the salute for Buddy Rich, Palmer had Buddy's utmost respect...he viewed him as his equal. Fuck the critics, the uneducated audience, etc. It's one thing to invent your own style of playing. like Palmer isn't original? This is a waste of time.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 Palmer is fast, and.... Neil's the king of fills, thats why he's so popular, his fills are so much cooler than palmers. You just state the facts the way you see them. Neil never got to meet Buddy, too bad. There's no way Buddy with his ego would consider Palmer his equal, nor would I, Buddy would have crushed palmer. Yeah, this is a waste of time, we hear and see different things.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 Then I guess we both know you're full of shit then, because Buddy respected Carl Palmer like an equal. Look it up and you'll find the truth. You're all opinions and no substance. Goodbye and good-riddens. Have fun in your narrow-minded world.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 Now who's full of shit. Buddy and carl aren't even from the same planet. Carl's somewhere in the top 10 rock drummers....but buddy would have eaten him alive. I don't need to look it up, I use my eye's and ear's to form my opinions. Google worlds greatest rock drummer, who's most often at the top of that list? Ha ha, look it up. Goodbye and good riddance( correct spelling, there's your fantastic education for you)!

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 I'm just quoting what Buddy said. I'm not quoting lists or drummers. And to I'm well aware of those lists, those lists are compiled by fans of rock, they aren't voted on by actual drummers themselves. I agree Buddy would have eaten Carl alive, but Buddy respected Carl above Neil Peart. IF you honestly believe by watching Carl drum that Peart is equally as good, you are not a drummer. As far as spelling, you're not worth the time using spell-check on. You don't matter.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 Who knows if Buddy even new about Neil. After checking out carl's solo, I don't think Neil is equally as good as carl, he's so much better.Carl's solo's are lame crappy copies of Buddy's solos, nothing at all original, if I want to see the solo done right, I'll watch Buddy do it. Everything from the taking off of the shirt( your favorite part I'm sure), to the cheesey gong...boring.He's still doing the same crummy solo today. I don't matter, thats why you keep responding.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 I'm pretty sure Buddy knew of him. Neil had been famous for about 13 years by the time of his death. If Buddy knew about Bonzo and Carl, he knew about Neil. Carl's solos are not imitations of Buddy's at all. That's not what I meant by you don't matter. What I meant was that I'm not trying to please you. I'm simply telling you things you don't want to here...that Neil Peart isn't the best, and that he can be copied, as evidenced on here. you don't see anyone copying Carl.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 Yeah, his solo's are a direct copy. If Buddy new of Neil, he would have dropped carl like a bad habit. Who new Buddy better than his own family, yet they chose Neil to organise the tribute to Buddy, not his so called good friend carl, only the best to pay tribute to the best. No one wants to copy carl, his sound and style are unappealing, copying is the highest form of flatery. Because someone can copy something doesn't make them as good as original.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 On the contrary, during an interview of Ian Paice by the Yes organ player, it turns out many people wanted to copy him. Please just fuck off, will you? We get it. You love Neil Peart, and believe him to be the bes Good for you. You can't prove nobody wants to copy Carl at all...he is worshipped by anyone who is a true drummer. The simple fact Peart can't be copied shows he isn't the best. Just please quit hijacking this video about Copeland, who is every bit as good as Neil

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 No one wants to copy him. Plenty of people can copy palmer, but he's a dinosaur. No one copied moon either, not an appealing style. That's how you judge talent, if it can be copied? What an idiot. The true genious is in comming up with something people want to copy. Copeland's a great drummer, much better than palmer. Fuck off, and enjoy your gay gong show palmer worshipping.

[jetfreak4]

lmao! You think Carl Palmer is medicore, that's so laughable. And yes, a good measure of how good somebody is if it's possible to copy them. I have yet to see one person play his ELP solo and replicate it. Plenty of people want to copy Palmer. Ask any drummer or professional musician what they think of Carl...I suppose you think Bill Bruford sucks too. You're also the only loyal person here blinded by loyalty. Please just fuck off and live in your fantasy of Peart being untouchable.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 His solo is boring, half of it is him taking off his shirt, the other is him posing( trying to catch his breath, no stamina). Plenty of drummers could copy it if they wanted to. That just shows you're ignorance, palmer's not untouchable. Brufords awesome. Ask any serious drummer what they think of Neil. Fuck off and stay in your little fantasy world.

[jetfreak4]

Fine, be like that. See only what you want to see, continue blindly worshipping your idol and promoting him as above the rest...I am not the first person to ridicule you on here and I certainly won't be the last. Every drummer I've ever talked to holds my view. The fact that you dismiss Billy Cobham, one of the greatest drummers ever to sit behind a kit, is all I need to prove your mental retardation. Bill Bruford and Ian Paice both share my view of Carl. It's time you did.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 Same to you asshole, no one else has commented besides you,palmer worshipping queer. Every drummer I talk to agree's with me. The only one I dismiss is you, you have no credibility, you're not a drummer, the fact that you dismiss Neil proves your mental retardation, no one agree's with you. Go listen to your outdated boring elp records in your parents basement where you live, douche.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 You're taking my own words and using them against me. That's all the proof I need that you're a lying sack of shit. Anybody who thinks Carl Palmer sucks is no drummer...that's the same thing as any baseball player who thinks Mickey Mantle or Willy Mays was a bad player. I have a well-paying job, a fiancee, and I don't live in my parents' basement. I don't dismiss Neil at all...if you noticed, I said he was a great drummer, among the best rock drummers in history.

[rushbum]

never rip on neil peart drumming he is a fucking innovator

[Truthseaker001]

If you've ever seen Carl Palmer in concert, you'd have seen at least one of the top 5 players of all time. That's Emerson, Lake and Palmer. BTW.

[unshaned317]

Ya know, It's funny to me how I remember Stewart remarking in Modern Drummer how he looked down on drum solos as arrogant displays of what has been practiced. It's great to see him chop it up. Superb composer. Great drummer. And yeah, It's OK to change one's mind. MORE SOLOS!

[nodrush80]

No one comes even close to Peart.

[dwattzdrummer]

@nodrush80 Check out my teacher Chad Szeliga of Breaking Benjamin, he is soooo underrated. Peart shows no passion when he plays which makes me turn away from him. His DW DVD was the most boring thing I had ever seen. The guy could at least act like he's interested... I don't get it.

[nodrush80]

@dwattzdrummer You summed it all up with your last comment.....you just don't get it.

[k0rr1]

@dwattzdrummer Peart wouldn't get to that level of expertise if he wasn't passionate about drumming. His face doesn't show it, but he loves drumming.

[MattTheSasquatch]

@dwattzdrummer Just because he doesn't show passion every single minute doesn't me he isn't passionate about playing. Everyone has his or her own style and that happens to be Neil's. If you watch him live with Rush, he does crack a few smiles here and there. Sadly, I'm the same way. I don't show that much emotion, but in my mind I'm full of emotion. If you think it's boring, that's your opinion. But try posting that on a Neil Peart video and see how many people knock you down.

[96drummer96]

@dwattzdrummer He's concentrating on his greatness, you don't deserve to have even heard of him.

[dwattzdrummer]

@96drummer96 Get over self bro.. jesus... I stated an opinion, he simply is boring to watch and showmanship is half the battle in my eyes with drumming. Relax =)

[96drummer96]

@dwattzdrummer I'm just stating my opinion. Relax =)

[dwattzdrummer]

@96drummer96 I like your style sir hahah. Well to be honest give me a few songs that will wow me that Neil Peart does. I do not like the singer's voice too much which pushes me away from them haha.

[96drummer96]

@dwattzdrummer YYZ, Tom Sawyer, La Villa Strangiato, and as for his solos: O Baterista. Learn YYZ perfectly and tell me how great a drummer he is.. :D

[thnk4urself]

@dwattzdrummer I totally agree, showmanship is not part of the battle with drumming but really, if you have good technique it's impossible not to be a showman. I don't think it's pearts lack of showmanship that makes him seem robotic, I think it's his style. I've always thought his style was very mechanical and I think it really becomes evident when he does drum solos. He's a brilliant drummer but I know what you mean, I think there are better drummers out there people don't realize it

[thnk4urself]

@96drummer96 shut the fuck up. he has a point, it's not blasphemy to have a negative opinion about something Neil Peart does, don't be retarded, get of his nuts, I'm sure he doesn't want you there

[3rudymora]

@dwattzdrummer i agree in my opinion peart doesn't stack up with jojo, tony, or harrison

[Nigelxman]

@dwattzdrummer Could you possibly be more of an idiot?

[dwattzdrummer]

@Nigelxman the more people like you comment, the more views I get brah. Keep em coming =)

[Adamboms]

@nodrush80 Neil Peart is an excellent drummer, I'd never say anything to slight him, but for for the love of god saying no one comes close to him is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, there are dozens of drummers that are just as good or arguably better than him and I think Peart himself would agree with that.

[nodrush80]

@Adamboms You are right, Peart would agree with that, I wouldn't. I stand behind what I wrote.....technically speaking you might be right, but the guy has a fantasy like no other.

[mwb78]

@nodrush80 Only someone who hasn't been exposed to other drummers would think Peart, although great, is the best. Opinions are great, but they're just that.

[nodrush80]

@mwb78 You have no idea what I listen to, Copeland has always been one of my favorites, it is a fact that Neil is a better drummer than copeland, not an opinion. Gavin Harrison is also a current fav....there are so many great drummers, neil is the most innovative, something you might understand if you listened to Rush seriously.

[mwb78]

@nodrush80 I've been listening to Rush consistently for over 20 years dude. I was made fun of for being such a Rush fanboy in high school. Don't talk to me about "listening to Rush seriously." Gavin Harrison has been a fave of mine for years and years.You cannot prove one is better than the other. There is no way to quantify it. Stop trolling for unicorns on anyone who doesn't have Neil's cock in their mouth as you so obviously do.

[jetfreak4]

@nodrush80 lmao! Are you kidding me? Stewart Copeland in many respects can do things Peart cannot, and vice-versa. As far as nobody coming close to Peart...Peart will ttell you different. Buddy Rich and Billy Cobham could blow Peart out of the water effortlessly. Ian Paice in my opinion is also better. Ginger Baker and John Bonham also give him a good run for his money...Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaita, Steve Gadd, Steve Smith...Dennis Chambers...Carl Palmer.

[nodrush80]

@jetfreak4 With the exception of Buddy, none of those guy's are as complete as Neil....Cobham blow Neil out of the water...he's not even fit to set up Neils kit.

[AngelRamirezOrozco]

@nodrush80 Buddy Rich...nuff said...

[nodrush80]

No one comes even close to Peart.

[BWFSabian]

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[mantaishere]

@Beckham742 EXACTLY.

[Monsterdrumma]

To me this was the best solo so far, maybe not technically and maybe to short but as soon as he hits a drum you can tell who it is playing drums, I love that he is raw and not so refined, he plays with passion, my fave so far honestly!

[dwattzdrummer]

@Monsterdrumma Oh def dude! Gavin Harrsion comes right after though. Tony was just about speed in my eyes. I did not groove..

[durango3000]

@dwattzdrummer agreed.  royster has loads of technique, not as much soul.

[jetfreak4]

@Monsterdrumma Stewart Copeland hardly showed half of what he knows in this. He is among the most technical drummers I've ever seen in many senses. And nobody has nearly as clean a stroke and few have his speed.

[thnk4urself]

@Monsterdrumma yea man Copeland is amazing. Not only creatively, he's technically one of the best, but seriously he's got to be one of the most creative drummers alive

[lamecasuelas2]

holy shit!!!

[dorian2112]

Stewies Flams and his fills and hat work are by far the best. my fav is Neil P, but you cannot deny Stewie. love everything he has ever done.. trad grip rules!!! as does PAiSTe!!!

[dwattzdrummer]

@dorian2112 He's really hard to cover, I am working on his stuff haha.

[JacqRbbit69]

Copeland's groove is so deep you could drive a car through it! Love this guy.

What about Dennis Chambers tomorrow night? Dave said that was it for drum solo week... WTF.

[Weckl81]

@JacqRbbit69 The show with Dennis Chambers has been taped on monday. Probably Dave made a mistake.

[dwattzdrummer]

@JacqRbbit69 I noticed that too, he said it was the end of drum solo week... strange.

[ferrari808]

thank you very much for uploading, i didnt get to see the whole thing as i had just caught it walking into the gym at night. he still rocks awesome

[dwattzdrummer]

@ferrari808 Glad to have helped bro!

[dwattzdrummer]

@Beckham742 What!? I did not know that! Kids today know nothing of real musicians anymore... The Rev the best out of 100 drummers on that site fuck that... He died, so his overrated status went up even more... Check out my drum teacher Chad Szeliga, watch his drum solo on YouTube. He is greatly influence by Copeland and is SOOO musical and groovy.

[anunstealthynacho]

@dwattzdrummer I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks the Rev is overrated. I mean, yeah, he was a great drummer, but the best? No where close. (IMO)

[uohaloran]

I kept trying to clean my screen! There's a little speck in the middle of the video. :)

Gavin Harrison was excellent yesterday night, as well.

[dwattzdrummer]

@uohaloran Hahaha omg you won't believe this my friend... I come home from college to find out my brother had damaged my screen while I was away. He also managed to completely stain my floor, god I hate him...

[dwattzdrummer]

@Beckham742 It's nice to know I am not alone with thinking that. Thanks haha. He is underrated if you ask me. I am so glad he got the spot light, there are so little videos of him on YouTube. I liked his other Tama Blue StarClassic kit better, loving that new ride though. I played it at SamAsh, it's amazing...

[dwattzdrummer]

@Beckham742 One of the most tasteful drummers I have ever seen. I really think Tony Royster is overrated, that solo was just speed no real groove, and very generic.