@hitime2011 He also said for slaves to be good to their masters. He never denounced the OT law like some people like to claim. He insisted it must be followed actually.
@aCrucifiedCrusader Right? I am astounded by how little the caller knows about his own religion, i've even read that stupid f*cking bible and i know more about most stupid religious morons who say they are better than us atheists.....shit....
If we were to explore the galaxy looking for other life forms, what would we say we believe about the beginning of time? That it was just before Adam and Eve, or that it was billions of years ago?
Our own arrogance is keeping us back. We spend time bickering over which religion is better when we could be uniting for a common purpose.
I don't have to follow any particuar religion to believe that the Universe was created by a singular being. The whole point is that we can't understand that being. The only way to learn more about Him is to learn more about the Universe.
@73gummybears No one should dismiss the Bible, the Q'ran, or any other religious book. Neither should they follow its tenets fanatically without asking questions. The true path to being at one with the Universe is to see it for what it is.
Did I just hear her say that " you can't prove or disprove that god created the world" ? .. I sensed tension from the chick on the left. Was she upset that that was said?
according to most, christianity is law. deep down, however, they know that it is ridiculous. there is a part of them that is brainwashed beyond repair.
@bmac atheists believe there isn't a God. But it's a belief in a negative. Which isn't a belief. It's whatever the atheist replaces God with that is their positive assertions. But God is the only logical, historical, & philosophical explanation of all thngs!!!!!
one atheist told me that atheists have no beliefs. is that true? i feel like I've heard that atheists definitely believe that there is no God, but some have said they have no beliefs whatsoever. can someone clear that up for me? I'm not looking for a debate or argument. just a response to clear up my question
I find it interesting that the new line in Atheism is that it is not related to Evolution....of course distancing yourself from this is necessary since theory after modified theory proves nothing but false. Darwin's theory has everything to do with modern Atheism. A med-school drop out who was found to be unsuitable for medical studies is the one who began to doubt God's existence by offering up nonsense, which was accepted before any evidence could substantiate it. And you call us stupid?
Who created time? Who created the universe? Who created life? Who created whats right and whats wrong? Who created the sun that gives life sustanance on earth? Who created water? Who created the ozone layer that protects life from outerspace radiation in order that life may exist? Why is the apple a perfect shape ergonomically so that it may fit around a human hand? The whole of the universe did not come out of thin air from 0 to 1. Allah created humans so that we worship him THAT IS OUR PURPOSE
@MrPlanx What I am trying to say is there are countless wonders on earth that point to Gods existence. In the Quran there are many verses that tell us about the creation of this world. In the Quran it states the stages of the formation of a human embryo. It states the formation of the clouds and many more. All this was revealed 1400 years ago! yet science proves of this in moden times.
@imzo101 - There is NOTHING that "points to Gods existence". Your personal ignorance is not evidence of anything. A book proves nothing. The Bible and the Quran were both written at a time when science didn't exist, by people who entertained each other by making up stories around campfires. As I said before, get an education. Once you understand the history of those times and the science of how things work in the world, the superstitious beliefs from the Bronze Age will be laughable.
@Kalkas53 - There is nothing to prove that Zeus doesn't exist - or that pink unicorns on the Moon don't exist. Intelligent people don't believe in things simply because there isn't evidence that they DON'T exist. You believe in things because there is evidence that they DO exist. Also, your own personal ignorance of science is not evidence of a deity. All that proves is that you need to learn more so that you can understand why the intelligent people are laughing at you.
@MrPlanx Intelligent people don't reject what they're not familiar with, without studying it and deciding for themselves. Intelligent people don't lash out at other people with aggression and insults - if they had the logic and the skill to actually debate. This blog is a joke....nothing more than elementary school name calling, not an honest review of the facts.
@hitime2011 - Yeah? If I told you that I had a magic pink unicorn that came from the moon, would you accept it until you could prove otherwise? No, of course not. But the mythology of a supernatural invisible deity (ANY deity) is just as preposterous and has just as much actual evidence for it (ZERO) - an if you had grown up in a culture where people believed in pink unicorns, you would be arguing in favor of their existence, too. Magic is not real. GET AN EDUCATION.
@MrPlanx If you are suggesting that Judaism and Christianity are unsubstantiated mythology, similar to pink unicorns, then YOU are the UNEDUCATED one. The truth is, you reject what you do no know or care to find out about. Fine, your choice. But don't go around acting like your ignorance is superior knowledge, because it isn't. The fact that Jesus existed is an undisputable historical FACT. Whether or not you believe He was who He said He was is a separate issue.
@hitime2011 - The fact that a MAN named Jesus probably existed means absolutely NOTHING. Billions of other people have existed, too. Some of them were great con artists who gathered many followers, like David Koresh, or Adolf Hitler. Many have been great magicians like Houdini or David Copperfield. Does that make them the son of a god? NO. Is there ANY actual evidence for ANY god? NO - ZERO - ZIP.
@MrPlanx Its true. But you'd have to admit that what Jesus taught didn't exactly draw the crowds...it was hard teaching, not something any group would be eager to follow.....unless...they thought it was true. His claim was that He was the incarnate God....the Jews, who had much interest in proving the claims false, never produced a body. The tomb was heavily guarded by Roman soldiers who faced death if it was tampered with. Jesus was one of only three things.. a liar...a lunatic...or the Lord
@hitime2011 - This is a story that was passed along by word of mouth around camp fires for DECADES before it was written down. Ever play that game where you whisper something to someone, then they tell the next person, and so on - then see what the last person in the chain thinks the story was? Facts get mixed up in 5 minutes. Now multiply that by decades. The Bible is a story. It can not be taken literally or factually.
@MrPlanx The first 5 books of the old testament (the Penatuch) were written by Moses....probably the first Israelite to write following his certain education as one being raised by the Pharaoh's daughter. The Jewish scribes followed stringent guidelines for copying the text in a painstaking manner. These writings are verified as astonishingly accurate accounts of history as proven numerous times in archeological finds. They eclipse every other book of antiquity in terms of being verified.
@MrPlanx Why don't you look it up....go ahead. Do a google search for books of antiquity....learn about what you are rejecting without any knowledge of it. I'm not the one whose been conned....you are.
@hitime2011 And while you're at it....why don't you try verifying the crap you do believe...where did the author receive his training and how did he become an expert at what he espouses? The truth is...you'll believe ANYTHING anyone says....without verification, because you want to. It doesn't have to be true, it just has to feel good.
@hitime2011 - I provided you with references and facts. Again, type in "acurseonalltheirhouses" into Google and read the top search result, which contains references. If you have the courage to face the truth, you will read it.
@MrPlanx The book you reference was written by Sam Butler, who graduated from the University of California, Berkly in 1959 with a degree in Economics and it looks as though his career was in commercial real estate and appraising. Hmmm. I'm guessing that he's not exactly qualified to refute an ancient document like the scripture. At best, his book is speculative nonsense, but hey, if it helps you sleep at night to think that way go ahead.
@hitime2011 - He isn't reviewing the Bible. IF YOU WANT TO LEARN THE TRUTH, YOU DON'T LOOK AT THE BIBLE! He looked at historical documents, which are refrerenced - look at the original source material. His credentials are not important to the sources, and I'm damned sure that you didn't graduate from ANY accredited university. Finally, that was given to you as ONE source of some facts, not the only one.
@MrPlanx You are damned sure about so many things you know nothing about. What you just said is so obvious...."you don't look at the bible..." You've decided ahead of time that they are rubbish....but why? Your "one source of some facts" is contrived information with an agenda....its propaganda. You know it, AND you believe it. Just foolish.
@MrPlanx Maybe it's you who hasn't enough courage to find the truth. BTW, I read up on Krishna, whom Mr. Butler claims was born on December 25 to a virgin, died and was resurrected....I found no such claims in the historical analysis of this being. In fact, one research article says, and I quote "In the absence of valid historical evidence all that we have about Lord Krishna are the scriptures like Bhagavadgita, Mahabharata and Bhagavatapurana... whose authorship and dates are debated
@MrPlanx Keep studying Mr. Planx....maybe you'll learn something. But you'll have to dig a bit deeper than your own desire to reject what you do not know. Did you look up books of antiquity? I bet not.
@hitime2011 - START studying. So far all you have done is read a book written down decades later about some stories told around campfires by sheep herders. The truth is out there, but you won't find it being offered up by con artists who make a living off of you believing in an invisible man in the sky that you won't meet until after you die - which is the biggest con game of all time.
@MrPlanx Once again, Mr. Planx, you've got the message and the purpose of the scriptures wrong....There is a plethora of material written to support the validity of the bible. The claims made within it are verified in the fossil record, but blind men like yourself, can't see the truth....why? Because you refuse to investigate it for yourself. You just sit on the sidelines and ridicule everyone who does. Just a cynic, not a scholar.
@MrPlanx HOLY CRAP ONE OF US IS DEFINITELY STUPID....EVER HEAR OF THE CAMBRIAN FLASH OR EXPLOSION????? BUT YOU'RE SO SMART, YOU WOULD NEVER ATTRIBUTE THAT TO THE ANCIENT RECORD THAT SAYS ALL THINGS WERE SPOKEN INTO BEING BY A CREATOR, EVEN THOUGH THE FOSSILS PROVE EVERYTHING SHOWED UP AT ONCE....EXPLAIN IT MR BRAINIAC, AS SOON AS YOU FIGURE IT ALL OUT, WHICH WILL BE NEVER BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO THINK ABOUT THE OBVIOUS.
@MrPlanx Are you saying that the resources for your entire belief system lies within a Youtube video? I haven't heard any feedback from your search of books of antiquity. Does it matter to your that most of the recorded history for an enormous amount of time is found in scripture and that this historical record has been verified countless times in archeology. In fact, there is ever increasing evidence that the Bible is an unparalleled record of historical integrity.
...much of the Bible, in particular the historical books of the old testament, are as accurate historical documents as any that we have from antiquity and are in fact more accurate than many of the Egyptian, Mesopotamian, or Greek histories. These Biblical works can and are used as are other ancient documents in archeological works."
But archaeologists do indeed find the Bible a valuable reference tool, and have used it many times for geographic relationships, old names, and relative chronologies. On the enclosed list, you will find many articles concerning discoveries verifying events discussed in the Bible (note: more than thirty articles are listed)."
@hitime2011 - National Geographic is not a person. I see no evidence of any such statement published by NG. I DO see this quote in a couple of religious websites trying desperately to prop up their mythology. Frankly, it makes no difference what some author at NG may or may not have written. The FACTS remain the same. The Bible was MANUFACTURED under order of Constantine from fables by sheep herders and the ONLY account of a Jesus is in the Bible. NO WHERE ELSE. Get a clue.
@MrPlanx You haven't done your homework, Mr. Planx. National Geographic isn't a religious institution, however it does acknowledge that the places and peoples written about in the Hebrew bible exist and they are able to document the actual existence of the places described. Look on their website for material that is related to the Bible. What about the Smithsonian....garbage too? Everything is garbage to you if you don't like it, true or not...yet you rely heavily on unsubstantiated theories
@MrPlanx Why don't you spend a little time at Reasons to Believe. Many of the scientists who write for this website came to their faith in Christianity as adults. They are astrophysicists, biochemists, geneticists and the like. They have given up lucrative careers to write evidences for the Christian faith. Most were not raised with any kind of religious bias.
@MrPlanx Extra-biblical sources that reference the Christ: Flavius Josephus (c. 37–c. 100), a Jew and Roman citizen;The Babylonian Talmud;The Dead Sea scrolls are first century or older writings that show the language and customs of some Jews of Jesus' time; similar uses of languages and viewpoints recorded in the New testament and the Dead Sea scrolls are valuable in showing that the New Testament portrays the 1st century period that it reports and is not a product of a later period.
@hitime2011 - You just revealed that you did NOT watch the video that I pointed you to. Of the only FOUR extra-Biblical references, Jesus was NEVER named. One of those references has been proven a fraud for over a century now, and in the other three, it was a reference to "Chrestus" and "Chreestians", but that translation of Chreestus only means "anointed one" - which is a GENERAL term of the time for a cult leader. Go watch the video!
@MrPlanx Another lie. Josephus named Jesus specifically. The Talmud references Yeshua, the Hebrew rendering of the name Jesus. Your ignorance is flagrant....its impossible to speak to someone who knows as little as you do. Only foolish people reject what they don't know...but its your choice...bury your head in the proverbial sand, Mr. Planx....for as long as you can......
@MrPlanx I just watched your video. There certainly is plagerism. In order to determine the original story, one would have to research the ANCIENT TEXTS!!! I challenge you to research the sources referenced in the video....oh, wait, there weren't any sources referenced, just some unknown voice spouting all this erroneous information. BTW, December 25th is not a biblical birthdate....of course you would have to READ the book you wholeheartedly reject in order to know that.
@hitime2011 - YES, there is plagerism, because it is COMMON KNOWLEDGE among historians. These facts are well established among scholars. As I must have said several times by now, GET AN EDUCATION. Of course, you don't WANT an education, and that's really the problem here. You want to believe in ridiculous fairy tales.
@MrPlanx What historians? What scholars? I've studied for 17 years the evidences that are available. I'm intimately familiar with biblical text and have sought Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic lexicons to determine original intent. I don't believe just because I was brainwashed. I WAS a self proclaimed atheist beginning in high school and into college. No one in my family as far as I know are Christian. My studies began with the intent to put to rest a nagging doubt about evidence I knew existed.
@hitime2011 - You have studied for 17 years, but you have yet to read from any historians or scholars? What have you been studying, exactly? Religious doctrines?
@MrPlanx On the contrary, Mr. Planx. I've never taken anyone's word for anything, but searched diligently the sources provided. I've searched literary history and books of antiquity....nothing compares to the validity of scripture, whether or not you believe its message, no other ancient writing has been authenticated like the bible. I've searched scientific evidences and find many compelling reasons to consider Christianity.
@MrPlanx Its annoying how atheists have their own "faith"...in nothing. The theories that they base their beliefs on is mostly unsubstantiated nonsense that changes like the wind. The writer's of their "bibles" are not authorities of anything, yet what they speak of is treated as though its superior knowledge. The primary way they defend their ideology is to put up false notions of the Christian faith and then tear them down. Nothing they think or say is in the slightest way based on truth.
@MrPlanx I know what I believe and I know why. I am not ashamed of the Gospel for it is the power of God for the salvation of all who believe, first for the Jew and then for the Gentile.
@hitime2011 - No, you BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE, which is what you WANT to believe. That has NOTHING to do with reality. You can not learn the truth about a religion by only studying the doctrines of that religion. You have to study the history from other sources outside of that religion, and weigh the claims against logic and evidence. If you are an honest and intelligent person, you will quickly realize that it is ancient superstition. It is a game for fools and con artists.
@73gummybears - Which is exactly why religion is giving way to science. Statistics of Americans: Those born before 1946 who are still alive: less than 5% atheists. Those born after 1976? Over 19% atheists. These knuckle-draggers can kick and scream all they want to.
@MrPlanx I'd check the percentage of people who actually have an accurate knowledge of the message of scripture pre-1946 versus those post 1976. Chances are you'd see a direct correlation between those who are not educated in matters of faith with those who reject it....and increase in disbelief rises with an increase in ignorance of scripture.
@MrPlanx Don't you mean you believe what you want to believe, even in the face of irrefutable evidence. You won't acknowledge the scriptures even though there exists no other record like it. To reject its history, one would have to reject everything written before the printing press was invented. You ignore evidence in the fossil records, in archeology, in biology....just because you want to. Take the journey for yourself....or don't. Your ignorance makes your opinion irrelevant.
@hitime2011 -- You're free to believe what you want, but you should realize that most sane and rational folks live by values and morals that FAR EXCEED those that any Biblical author could ever begin to think up! Christians often forget that the Bible, Jesus and God are all 100% MAN-MADE inventions. It was MAN who created God, not the other way around.
Our planet could use a whole lot MORE kindness and mercy and a whole lot LESS Biblical 'morality'!
@ColonPal Why thank you for granting me permission to be insane and irrational by believing the scriptures. I'm interested to know what planet you live on, because the assault on Christian values in the last 50 years has produced a level of human suffering like never before. Everything is permissable, no one is allowed say otherwise. Human trafficking is a testimony to what men will do when no moral boundries exist. You can buy a child on the internet to abuse or murder if you like. Good?
@hitime2011 -- There's no 'assault' on Christian 'values' whatsoever. The past 50 years has seen a DECREASE in human suffering, because religious stupidity is becoming EXTINCT! The FACTS are that today's society has far less genocide and human rights violations than it has at any time in human history. And the closer humanity gets to GETTING RID OF GOD and DELUSIONAL and superstitious religious beliefs, just that much sooner with the planet exist in peace and harmony. Welcome to REALITY!
@ColonPal I'd like the resources you are referencing for this garbage. The International Justice Mission would have to disagree wholeheartedly with your insane suggestion that the world is becoming more peaceful....why don't you read the newspaper once in awhile, visit some third world countries or some prisons.....your kind is not interested in finding the truth....you manufacture your own.
@hitime2011 - Doesn't take a genius to do a few simple google searches, if you're truly interested I suggest you do it and you'll see that across all 1st world nations it's pretty unanimous that the vast majority of the earth's population enjoys far more freedom, lives longer and has higher standards of living than ever before. We also have FAR less war and genocide -- ALL thanks to SECULAR and SCIENTIFIC organizations, NOT AT ALL thanks to Faith-based organizations, which do the exact opposite!
@ColonPal How much of your time and money do you devote to helping the hurting people around the world? While the lifestyle in your "1st world nations" has improved, millions of people suffer because of it. Sweatshops exist around the world to produce goods and services at dirt cheap prices to keep the 1st world fat cats in their luxury. I'm guessing you're a citizen of one of these?
@hitime2011 -- EVERY war is about one of 3 thing: GOD, Land, or OIL. And I think it's about time us humans got rid of GOD because God is what people invent for themselves to excuse their hatred of people they don't agree with. The Universe is perfectly explainable through Science, logic and reason anyway, so there's no use for superstitious religious NONSENSE like Islam and Xianity.
Why not instead of being 'Born-Again', don't you morons just GROW THE FUCK UP!?
@ColonPal Why don't you do your homework instead of acting like you know what you're talking about. There's so much evidence to consider....but, you'd rather not. Fine. Not a problem for me, but that you want to rid the world of the likes of me sounds a lot like Hitler mentality....lets get rid of everything that suggests authority and just do what we want.
@hitime2011 -- There's ZERO 'evidence' to consider if you're trying to convince someone that 'God created' the Universe. Why do you think the idea of teaching Intelligent Design 'theory' was LAUGHED out of the Supreme Court? It's because the Supreme Court is FAR smarter than the imbeciles that comprise the sum total of Creationism.
So, perhaps you should take your OWN advice and do you own goddamned homework!
@ColonPal What Supreme Court case are you referring to? Dates and details will be verified. There are many well educated people who find humor in the basis of atheism, which is nothing but unfounded theory after unfounded theory. The fossil evidence clearly shows that all the animal phyla showed up at one time-no transitional species exist. You've been duped! STUDY!
@hitime2011 -- I don't hate people who don't agree with me, I PITY them for being so ignorant and try to educate them when I can. Besides, there's nothing even REMOTELY hateful about calling out hate-mongers and bigots on their stupidity and ignorance and it's a personal hobby of mine. And when you consider the fact that the ENTIRE anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-freedom movement is comprised SOLEY of self-described 'Christians', it doesn't take a genius to see who makes up the TRUE hateful agenda!
@ColonPal What you say may be true of "self-described Christians", but those who are attempting to live out the mandates of Jesus Christ (biblical Christianity) are not as you describe. Jesus shocked the Jewish crowds when He addressed women as "daughters of Abraham", elevating them to positions equal to men. He spoke words of kindness to those whose lifestyle choices had wrecked havoc on their existence. He taught that not only must we give to those who ask, but we should give even more.
@hitime2011 -- Biblical morality has excused and endorsed some of the WORST example of human behavior in history. It views women as property, much like it's brother, the Koran, it endorses slavery and the MURDER of children who curse, and the followers of Christianity have as much or more blood on their hands as Islamic fundamentalists.
So, perhaps it's YOU who isn't familiar with Christian morality, in which case, I would suggest you READ your Holy Babble and inform yourself!
@ColonPal I'm already very familiar....you, however, would benefit immensely by reading what you are obviously unfamilar with. The ONLY people who could possibly accept what you say would have to be as ignorant of scripture as you are. Don't get me wrong....there's a lot of people who don't actually know what it says. Its those people who believe but can't defend that you decimate with your twisted logic. Everyone else knows better.
@hitime2011 -- Scripture is a 100% MAN-MADE invention. So quit pretending it's anything more than legend and myth unless you're prepared to show PROOF. And by proof I don't mean merely SAYING 'it's the inspired word of God', because you KNOW that BS won't fly for rational and sane humans like myself.
@ColonPal Well if you mean that scripture is 100% WRITTEN down by men, then ok, I'll give you that. Isn't all history written down by men? I mean cows can't write nor sheep nor snakes....who else would write history. Now that that is established, how reliable IS the history? Archeology has proven time and again that the places and the peoples written about are real.
@valgez1 - I am certain that I have more of an education than you do. As for being rational, I was programming computers in binary when I was 12 years old, which I taught myself. I designed and built a 6502 based microcomputer. I don't mean assembling one from a kit, either. I'd say that qualifies me as being rational. If you disagree, then try looking up the definition of the word. What I see from your writing is that you are angry at your miserable life.
@MrPlanx :-))) You see now what clown you are: YOU designed computers - HAHA!!! tell me the stories ! - you cooked spaghetti and made Flying Spaghetti Monsters, when you were 12 years old ? Keep on dreaming, - overcome your dyslexia first and then try to finish your 1st grade - if social workers allow you to - you call yourself rational? You don't know the meaning of this word - you are as rational as a menstruating old lady - and, yes, you lead pitiful, measurable, pathetic atheistic life
@MrPlanx You are fucking clown - you call yourself rational, little fool ? Somebody actually got Nobel prize for researching irrationality in human behavior - so, stfu, fool. Also, tell me, what exactly rational are you doing by being yourself - a little fool gobbing off on Youtube ? - judging by the line of your reasoning, you hardly even know what computer is. So, what is rational in your pathetic behavior ??? Let's test how rational you are
@valgez1 - I can see how your religion has made you into a kind and tolerant person of good standing. People like you are a walking, talking advertisement for the stupidity of religion. Thank you for making my point here better than anything I could have written.
@hitime2011 - Since YouTube doesn't let anyone post links to websites, type the following into Google: "acurseonalltheirhouses" and then click on the top search result.
There is a lot of evidence to support the authenticity of the scriptures. Its annoying to hear people mis-quote passages out of context and claim contradictions. This habit is a manipulation of the text and for those who never bother to study it on their own, may even believe the lies. For those who do bother to pick it up and read it for themselves.....they would find a very different reality. A truth that is surrounded by a ton of evidence......
@Chrisluvslupe - Only if you believe that Christians are mentally retarded, THEN you can claim that it is mean. Otherwise these people need to be exposed to the direct sunlight of reason.
@MrPlanx Well there is something that you should know maybe people look up to this fantasy only to rid themselves of depression r maybe they look up to a God only to get through the day and also you know there is a difference between Religion and a "Traditionalist" meaning they follow the their religion only out of tradition seems reasonable to me if you ask me and hey perhaps AT LEAST SOMETHING happens after you die I don't care where you go I hope there will at least be somethingafter
@MrChach1ng - Yes, people do drugs to relieve themselves of depression, too. Does that make drugs a good idea? Religion actually damages the minds of children. This has been proven in very recent investigations. Children who are exposed to illogical and irrational ideas, and told to accept these things as facts, actually suffer brain damage in the cererbral cortex and have difficulty thinking logically in later life. Fantasy is a nice thing, but it is not real.
@MrPlanx Well indeed this is where the term "Trditionalist" comes into play you do it because it is tradition it is what your eldest father has done people mistaken that very easily you know I believe everything science have to show because it is has proof of course but I think you are thinking of extremists Conservatives Jews for example they follow some of the rules only because of well Tradition. But to my opinion I think there is anything wrong with creativity of the mind
@MrPlanx Plus think about it this way when you die there must be at least SOMETHING that must happen I don't care if their is no heaven or hell I believe in a soul. So I think there must be something that happens to us after we die which again is an example but my point still stands firm oh and that last part below this comment I meant to say "there isn't anything wrong..etc." Sorry. But you have to realize a lot of these people or at least the Jewish population for example still...
@MrPlanx Go to Synagogue and pray and celebrate the holidays and maybe even hold sabbath only out of tradition because of their fore-fathers have done. For example they stayed strong from their religion through the holocaust. Science does have many wonders but unfortunately it has its downers because not many people can find the facination into so much detail. Well that is I am going to say for now sorry for putting too many comments I just wanted to get my point out. Do you wanna add?
@MrPlanx Which "religion" are you speaking of? What are the names of the studies...where were they conducted and by whom and over what period of time? More unsubstantiated crap. Holy books, thousands of years old and verified in many ways are to be discarded as meaningless, yet you spout your ideology completely in your own vacuum as though IT were absolute truth. Your agenda is riddled with hypocrisy.
wtf wtf wtr wtf? every single religious post i try to debate on gets blocked by the uploader. what a bunch of cowards. i am so mad that i want to scream. wait, i need to be patient. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The biggest fear in a persons life is to not know for EVERYONE Theists and Atheists alike when they don't have the answer it creates tremendous fear and to be wrong is what shall acumilate that fear nobody wants to be wrong Theists and Atheists both have great arguments in their stories but unfortunately nobody wants to agree upon one another which creates Choas within this world that we live in today but I don't think it takes a great mind to find that out hopefully
Actually the stoning rules apply to the old testament. That was before Jesus died on the cross to save our sins which took away the punishment of stoning.
Not to mention stoning was rules of the people not just part of the religion
@sombraros - This is STUPID. The same god who called for stoning of children for their disobedience - EVEN INCLUDING girls who had been raped by their own father - is the SAME god that is in the New Testament. Furthermore, Jesus specifically said that he was not there to give any new laws, and that the laws of the Old Testament were still to be obeyed. Christians just like to cherry pick the parts that they like, and ignore the rest because 90% of it is incredibly amoral today.
@MrPlanx It would be so refreshing to actually listen to someone who knew what they were talking about. These things have other facts surrounding them....other meanings than the isolated way you choose to think about them. And Jesus didn't say the old testament laws were to be obeyed....He said "I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it." Quit talking about things you obviously know nothing about.
Faith is believing in something that has no factual evidence behind it. Therefore, having faith in something that can't even be proven right, with GOOD strong evidence, with no debate about it, I would have to say its a bunch of crap.
Why would you let yourself have an invisible crutch?
You're a human being, make your own path. Don't "hold" "Gods" hand through it all. Just shows how much you depend on a fairy tale.
@MushroomRocksGoPop15 You are right. Faith without proof or evidence may just be a fairy tale. Doesn't this point apply to evolution? Those who refute the creation of the world as described in scriptures merely WANT to believe that evolution is true and try very hard to manufacture the facts they need to substantiate it, all the while, the Cambrian flash supports a creation view point.....all the animal phyla show up at one time...the transitional species do not exist or are quickly refuted
It does. But, most people are to closed minded and so wrapped up in their truth to even begin thinking about considering other concepts that are probably and in my opinion, are more true than their own.
It is. It's merely based on what they want rather than what they are willing to know and accept. They WANT to have a god, they WANT someones hand to hold, they WANT the easy way out, they WANT to be granted heaven if all they do is pray.
@MushroomRocksGoPop15 Do you understand the historical integrity of the scriptures? This text is incomparable with any other writing of antiquity. It makes some pretty amazing claims. Many of the people and events are written about in other first century documents-a good number of which were written by those who were actually hostile to the Christian movement. If you refute its historical validity, then you have to reject EVERYTHING written prior to the printing press.
@MushroomRocksGoPop15 Please! These "transitional" fossils that are found are quickly refuted, not keeping consistent with other data the evolutionist previously claim as evidence nor is it within the same era. The science is flawed. The only thing that has ever evolved is the evolutionary theory itself.
Most Christians only PRETEND to believe in god. Somewhere they KNOW that it is a ridiculous fable, but they go along with the nonsense "just in case" - and if you disagree, then ask yourself WHY you fear death? Take the most dangerous job you can, and trust that if you die, it just means you'll be in heaven sooner. Go dancing at the top of a partially constructed skyscraper. So what if you fall? You go to heaven, right? No? BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT IS BULLSHIT.
@MrPlanx Not afraid of death, but enjoying life and not seeking to die. So because I'm not suicidal, I don't have faith? That's an interesting perspective. Many who believe are not solid in their knowledge, so they seem defenseless when someone attacks them. Their lack of knowledge doesn't not refute the truth, but it does make them weak and it can make the faith look weak.....but it is not.
@hitime2011 - I didn't say "suicidal" - your argument is a straw man. I said that Christians wouldn't FEAR death if they REALLY believed that crock of shit. The Pope wouldn't have 3 inches of bulletproof plexiglass in his Popemobile. He'd be right out in the open trusting that his god would protect him, and that even if he was killed, it would be for the best because that would be god's plan. IT IS A FARCE AND IN YOUR HEART YOU ALL KNOW IT - no one is that stupid in this age.
@MrPlanx Like I said, I don't fear death, but I guess you know what's in everyone's heart? Do you fear death? If you're just going to be worm food, then no big deal, right. Or if this is your only go around....maybe you should be extremely cautious with it all, cause you only get one chance.....
@MrPlanx Did you then think that We had created you in jest (without any purpose), and that you would not be returned to Us (in the Hereafter)? So, God is exalted, the True King. None has the right to be worshipped but Him... (Quran, 23:115-116)
And the Moon is eclipsed, and the Sun and the Moon are fused together, on that Day man will ask: "Where can I run?" No indeed! There will be no safe place. That Day, the only resting place will be your Lord. (Surat al-Qiyama, 8-12)
A lot of people making comments on here need to do some research on how the scientific method works before making comments about how it doesn't work because from your explanations it is obvious you don't understand it at all. For those of you who remember from your science classes in middle school, cheers. Two major problems, among many, with faith based belief systems are the argument from ignorance fallacy and the confirmation bias fallacy. Look them up.
No offense meant to the guys in the video - but they serve rather good antiatheism marketing - interrupting each other, bad manners, manipulation with the sound, overwhelming the op with silly childish methods, etc... Not mentioning the guy looking like a retard with his retarded smile :-) - nothing resembling intelligent debate. If I were an atheist I would be ashamed of leaving comments here.
@valgez1 - Since you wrote, "IF I were an atheist", we can assume you are not. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is admitting to believing idiotic fairy tales in the 21st century. It doesn't matter HOW that message is delivered to you, it will be a bitter pill to you.
@MrPlanx :-))) At least I don't play with "Flying Spaghetti Monsters" like you do - that's the REAL SHAME. Seems like you reached your top while at the kindergarten :-)
@MrPlanx "invisible man in the sky that you won't meet until after you die"
So, that is as deep as your Atheistic ideas go? Bearded folks in the sky, talking snakes, talking donkeys? Rights? Not impressive at all for some who claims to be "Intelligent". You are definitely just one of those religion-brainwashed idiots who got molested once or twice by some catholic priest truly believing it was Jesus who molested you - HAHA!!! No doubt it was this way !!!
@MrPlanx "invisible man in the sky that you won't meet until after you die"
So, that is as deep as your Atheistic ideas go? Bearded folks in the sky, talking snakes, talking donkeys? Rights? Not impressive at all for some who claims to be "Intelligent". You are definitely just one of those religion-brainwashed idiots who got molested once or twice by some catholic priest truly believing it was Jesus who molested you - HAHA!!! No doubt it was this way
@MrPlanx I mean you got molested once or twice by some catholic priest - and, now, after you realized that it was not Jesus :-))) but some catholic priest, you became Atheitic Warrior - no problem, there are many like you - but, beware that retarded Youtube is the only place where anyone can actually argue with you - your insight is so shallow and primitive that no intelligent person will take you seriously. Understand, little fool ?
@MrPlanx I mean you got molested once or twice by some catholic priest - and, now, after you realized that it was not Jesus :-))) but some catholic priest, you became Atheitic Warrior - no problem, there are many like you - but, beware that retarded Youtube is the only place where anyone can actually argue with you - your insight is so shallow and primitive that no intelligent person will take you seriously. Understand, little fool ?
@MrPlanx I mean you got molested once or twice by some catholic priest - and, now, after you realized that it was not Jesus :-))) but some catholic priest, you became Atheitic Warrior - no problem, there are many like you - but, beware that retarded Youtube is the only place where anyone can actually argue with you - your insight is so shallow and primitive that no intelligent person will take you seriously. Understand, little fool?
@MrPlanx I mean you got molested once or twice by some catholic priest - and, now, after you realized that it was not Jesus :-) but some catholic priest, you became Atheitic Warrior - no problem, there are many like you - but, beware that retarded Youtube is the only place where anyone can actually argue with you - your insight is so shallow and primitive that no intelligent person will take you seriously. Understand it, little fool?
@MrPlanx Since you wrote, "IF I were an atheist", we can assume you are not.
Who is "WE" ? Atheistic Brethren - you are talking like a sect member. Don't say "WE", cause not all atheists are as dumb as you are - some are really smart
@MrPlanx "We" is ANYONE WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN "
Nope, I think you are hallucinating, in your case "WE" refers to the bunch of mindless Athestic Aunts - good to know that you associate yourself with those idiots - makes it clear to me who I am arguing with - so I don't have to waste my energy in vain trying to get your to a serious talk :-)))
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You guys are good but to make it better get a physicist or professor with you guys. We have certain scientific theories on how the planet came to its existence. So please don't say we don't know how it got here.
Actually the evidence for Gods existence is overwhelming but people just like to get involved by voicing an opinion with no research and life dedication to knowledge of the truth so keep dreaming athiest ignore science FACTS embrace THEORIES and hide from TRUTH. Josephous the historian and many others confirmed Jesus story and existences, artifacts were found naming Pontious Pilate and the high priest who sentenced Jesus. History the bible and the universe prove God exists. But be ignorant.
@justplotting Look at greece, lots of people speaking of many god's existance. Witnesses and hear-say rank the lowest on evidence credibility, again. No empirical factual evidence has ever been provided.
@TheFaafia yes dozens of scientific theories have been proven wrong, but thousands or even millions have been proven right, people created religion because we became smart enough to question our own existence, you will base your whole life on millenia old writings just because you cant accept that one day you will die and there will be nothing, conciousness is a bunch of electrical impulses and chemical reactions, so tell me how your spirit lives on after your brain decomposes,
@valgez1 What? Theory is an explanation of the problem, answers the "how". Speculation holds no place in science. As far as religion, it relies on second hand witnesses, which rank the lowest on evidence credibility. Science takes only real evidence that rank the highest on evidence credibility rank to develop theories (explanations).
@marigold992 OK, that's what science does. But who says that any "Explanation" is valid? How do you know that it's not a BS ? :-) The fact that some explanation has a "science" logo attached to it doesn't make it valid enough for me to accept. Don't forget that science is done by humans hence all possible errors and misjudgements that may happen. Scientists may make wrong assumptions, wrong subject definitions, wrong results interpretation, not mentioning human ego involved.
@hitime2011 He also said for slaves to be good to their masters. He never denounced the OT law like some people like to claim. He insisted it must be followed actually.
BER2ERKER 1 week ago
Planck time
BER2ERKER 1 week ago
i think that kid will be an atheist some day... :>
RIMA142142 1 week ago
Debate? How is this a debate...its 3 dumasses and a guy that is trying to explain this to them...
SuperNeon17 3 weeks ago
@SuperNeon17 Other way around bucko :]
aCrucifiedCrusader 2 weeks ago
@aCrucifiedCrusader Right? I am astounded by how little the caller knows about his own religion, i've even read that stupid f*cking bible and i know more about most stupid religious morons who say they are better than us atheists.....shit....
BenZirkir 1 week ago
Guy is totally fucking mad. Let's hope he is dead
TheEmperorhirohito 3 weeks ago
If we were to explore the galaxy looking for other life forms, what would we say we believe about the beginning of time? That it was just before Adam and Eve, or that it was billions of years ago?
Our own arrogance is keeping us back. We spend time bickering over which religion is better when we could be uniting for a common purpose.
We are not ready.
Quierame407 4 weeks ago
I don't have to follow any particuar religion to believe that the Universe was created by a singular being. The whole point is that we can't understand that being. The only way to learn more about Him is to learn more about the Universe.
Quierame407 4 weeks ago
@Quierame407 But what if He left us with a way to know Him......and we missed it because we dismissed what we were unwilling to understand?
73gummybears 4 weeks ago
@73gummybears No one should dismiss the Bible, the Q'ran, or any other religious book. Neither should they follow its tenets fanatically without asking questions. The true path to being at one with the Universe is to see it for what it is.
Quierame407 3 weeks ago
@Quierame407 I agree. Search for yourself. Don't believe....or disbelieve because someone else says you should.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
Did I just hear her say that " you can't prove or disprove that god created the world" ? .. I sensed tension from the chick on the left. Was she upset that that was said?
iakopu23 4 weeks ago
mr.planx seems to be popular on here... i didn't even come here for the video, just 4the comments!
TheTantilla 1 month ago
@TheTantilla - Thanks... I think.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
according to most, christianity is law. deep down, however, they know that it is ridiculous. there is a part of them that is brainwashed beyond repair.
68293578149584730037 1 month ago
Both Christianity and Atheism both seem to me to be very narrow views about the possibilities of afterlife, and higher beings.
soho2014 1 month ago
@bmac atheists believe there isn't a God. But it's a belief in a negative. Which isn't a belief. It's whatever the atheist replaces God with that is their positive assertions. But God is the only logical, historical, & philosophical explanation of all thngs!!!!!
plato7770 1 month ago
They get the worst Christian callers. I'd like to c them answer some real questions
plato7770 1 month ago
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one atheist told me that atheists have no beliefs. is that true? i feel like I've heard that atheists definitely believe that there is no God, but some have said they have no beliefs whatsoever. can someone clear that up for me? I'm not looking for a debate or argument. just a response to clear up my question
bmac111260 1 month ago
I find it interesting that the new line in Atheism is that it is not related to Evolution....of course distancing yourself from this is necessary since theory after modified theory proves nothing but false. Darwin's theory has everything to do with modern Atheism. A med-school drop out who was found to be unsuitable for medical studies is the one who began to doubt God's existence by offering up nonsense, which was accepted before any evidence could substantiate it. And you call us stupid?
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - Not always, but in your case, yes. Also we call people like you uneducated and brainwashed. GET AN EDUCATION.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
MURDERED
MrLeftyliberal 1 month ago
Who created time? Who created the universe? Who created life? Who created whats right and whats wrong? Who created the sun that gives life sustanance on earth? Who created water? Who created the ozone layer that protects life from outerspace radiation in order that life may exist? Why is the apple a perfect shape ergonomically so that it may fit around a human hand? The whole of the universe did not come out of thin air from 0 to 1. Allah created humans so that we worship him THAT IS OUR PURPOSE
imzo101 1 month ago
@imzo101 - GET AN EDUCATION.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx What I am trying to say is there are countless wonders on earth that point to Gods existence. In the Quran there are many verses that tell us about the creation of this world. In the Quran it states the stages of the formation of a human embryo. It states the formation of the clouds and many more. All this was revealed 1400 years ago! yet science proves of this in moden times.
imzo101 1 month ago
@imzo101 - There is NOTHING that "points to Gods existence". Your personal ignorance is not evidence of anything. A book proves nothing. The Bible and the Quran were both written at a time when science didn't exist, by people who entertained each other by making up stories around campfires. As I said before, get an education. Once you understand the history of those times and the science of how things work in the world, the superstitious beliefs from the Bronze Age will be laughable.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx and there is nothing to to prove that God does not exist
Kalkas53 1 month ago
@Kalkas53 - There is nothing to prove that Zeus doesn't exist - or that pink unicorns on the Moon don't exist. Intelligent people don't believe in things simply because there isn't evidence that they DON'T exist. You believe in things because there is evidence that they DO exist. Also, your own personal ignorance of science is not evidence of a deity. All that proves is that you need to learn more so that you can understand why the intelligent people are laughing at you.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx I'm intelligent. LMAO at you!
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - If you were intelligent you would be laughing with me.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Intelligent people don't reject what they're not familiar with, without studying it and deciding for themselves. Intelligent people don't lash out at other people with aggression and insults - if they had the logic and the skill to actually debate. This blog is a joke....nothing more than elementary school name calling, not an honest review of the facts.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - Yeah? If I told you that I had a magic pink unicorn that came from the moon, would you accept it until you could prove otherwise? No, of course not. But the mythology of a supernatural invisible deity (ANY deity) is just as preposterous and has just as much actual evidence for it (ZERO) - an if you had grown up in a culture where people believed in pink unicorns, you would be arguing in favor of their existence, too. Magic is not real. GET AN EDUCATION.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx If you are suggesting that Judaism and Christianity are unsubstantiated mythology, similar to pink unicorns, then YOU are the UNEDUCATED one. The truth is, you reject what you do no know or care to find out about. Fine, your choice. But don't go around acting like your ignorance is superior knowledge, because it isn't. The fact that Jesus existed is an undisputable historical FACT. Whether or not you believe He was who He said He was is a separate issue.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - The fact that a MAN named Jesus probably existed means absolutely NOTHING. Billions of other people have existed, too. Some of them were great con artists who gathered many followers, like David Koresh, or Adolf Hitler. Many have been great magicians like Houdini or David Copperfield. Does that make them the son of a god? NO. Is there ANY actual evidence for ANY god? NO - ZERO - ZIP.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Its true. But you'd have to admit that what Jesus taught didn't exactly draw the crowds...it was hard teaching, not something any group would be eager to follow.....unless...they thought it was true. His claim was that He was the incarnate God....the Jews, who had much interest in proving the claims false, never produced a body. The tomb was heavily guarded by Roman soldiers who faced death if it was tampered with. Jesus was one of only three things.. a liar...a lunatic...or the Lord
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - This is a story that was passed along by word of mouth around camp fires for DECADES before it was written down. Ever play that game where you whisper something to someone, then they tell the next person, and so on - then see what the last person in the chain thinks the story was? Facts get mixed up in 5 minutes. Now multiply that by decades. The Bible is a story. It can not be taken literally or factually.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx The first 5 books of the old testament (the Penatuch) were written by Moses....probably the first Israelite to write following his certain education as one being raised by the Pharaoh's daughter. The Jewish scribes followed stringent guidelines for copying the text in a painstaking manner. These writings are verified as astonishingly accurate accounts of history as proven numerous times in archeological finds. They eclipse every other book of antiquity in terms of being verified.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Certainly nothing you reference as a resource for consideration compares to the accuracy of biblical text. Look it up.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - Totally false. You have been conned. GET AN EDUCATION.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Why don't you look it up....go ahead. Do a google search for books of antiquity....learn about what you are rejecting without any knowledge of it. I'm not the one whose been conned....you are.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 And while you're at it....why don't you try verifying the crap you do believe...where did the author receive his training and how did he become an expert at what he espouses? The truth is...you'll believe ANYTHING anyone says....without verification, because you want to. It doesn't have to be true, it just has to feel good.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - I provided you with references and facts. Again, type in "acurseonalltheirhouses" into Google and read the top search result, which contains references. If you have the courage to face the truth, you will read it.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx The book you reference was written by Sam Butler, who graduated from the University of California, Berkly in 1959 with a degree in Economics and it looks as though his career was in commercial real estate and appraising. Hmmm. I'm guessing that he's not exactly qualified to refute an ancient document like the scripture. At best, his book is speculative nonsense, but hey, if it helps you sleep at night to think that way go ahead.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - He isn't reviewing the Bible. IF YOU WANT TO LEARN THE TRUTH, YOU DON'T LOOK AT THE BIBLE! He looked at historical documents, which are refrerenced - look at the original source material. His credentials are not important to the sources, and I'm damned sure that you didn't graduate from ANY accredited university. Finally, that was given to you as ONE source of some facts, not the only one.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx You are damned sure about so many things you know nothing about. What you just said is so obvious...."you don't look at the bible..." You've decided ahead of time that they are rubbish....but why? Your "one source of some facts" is contrived information with an agenda....its propaganda. You know it, AND you believe it. Just foolish.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Maybe it's you who hasn't enough courage to find the truth. BTW, I read up on Krishna, whom Mr. Butler claims was born on December 25 to a virgin, died and was resurrected....I found no such claims in the historical analysis of this being. In fact, one research article says, and I quote "In the absence of valid historical evidence all that we have about Lord Krishna are the scriptures like Bhagavadgita, Mahabharata and Bhagavatapurana... whose authorship and dates are debated
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Keep studying Mr. Planx....maybe you'll learn something. But you'll have to dig a bit deeper than your own desire to reject what you do not know. Did you look up books of antiquity? I bet not.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - START studying. So far all you have done is read a book written down decades later about some stories told around campfires by sheep herders. The truth is out there, but you won't find it being offered up by con artists who make a living off of you believing in an invisible man in the sky that you won't meet until after you die - which is the biggest con game of all time.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Once again, Mr. Planx, you've got the message and the purpose of the scriptures wrong....There is a plethora of material written to support the validity of the bible. The claims made within it are verified in the fossil record, but blind men like yourself, can't see the truth....why? Because you refuse to investigate it for yourself. You just sit on the sidelines and ridicule everyone who does. Just a cynic, not a scholar.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - Verified in the fossil record? HOLY CRAP ARE YOU STUPID! Forget getting an education. Get a brain!
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx HOLY CRAP ONE OF US IS DEFINITELY STUPID....EVER HEAR OF THE CAMBRIAN FLASH OR EXPLOSION????? BUT YOU'RE SO SMART, YOU WOULD NEVER ATTRIBUTE THAT TO THE ANCIENT RECORD THAT SAYS ALL THINGS WERE SPOKEN INTO BEING BY A CREATOR, EVEN THOUGH THE FOSSILS PROVE EVERYTHING SHOWED UP AT ONCE....EXPLAIN IT MR BRAINIAC, AS SOON AS YOU FIGURE IT ALL OUT, WHICH WILL BE NEVER BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO THINK ABOUT THE OBVIOUS.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Let me take a guess....you never looked up books of antiquity or their verification, have you? Of course not....too "smart" for that......
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - Watch the YOUTUBE video titled, "The Real Truth about Religion and its Origins" !
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Are you saying that the resources for your entire belief system lies within a Youtube video? I haven't heard any feedback from your search of books of antiquity. Does it matter to your that most of the recorded history for an enormous amount of time is found in scripture and that this historical record has been verified countless times in archeology. In fact, there is ever increasing evidence that the Bible is an unparalleled record of historical integrity.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx" The Smithsonian Institute acknowledges:
...much of the Bible, in particular the historical books of the old testament, are as accurate historical documents as any that we have from antiquity and are in fact more accurate than many of the Egyptian, Mesopotamian, or Greek histories. These Biblical works can and are used as are other ancient documents in archeological works."
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx" The National Geographic Society states:
But archaeologists do indeed find the Bible a valuable reference tool, and have used it many times for geographic relationships, old names, and relative chronologies. On the enclosed list, you will find many articles concerning discoveries verifying events discussed in the Bible (note: more than thirty articles are listed)."
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - National Geographic is not a person. I see no evidence of any such statement published by NG. I DO see this quote in a couple of religious websites trying desperately to prop up their mythology. Frankly, it makes no difference what some author at NG may or may not have written. The FACTS remain the same. The Bible was MANUFACTURED under order of Constantine from fables by sheep herders and the ONLY account of a Jesus is in the Bible. NO WHERE ELSE. Get a clue.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx You haven't done your homework, Mr. Planx. National Geographic isn't a religious institution, however it does acknowledge that the places and peoples written about in the Hebrew bible exist and they are able to document the actual existence of the places described. Look on their website for material that is related to the Bible. What about the Smithsonian....garbage too? Everything is garbage to you if you don't like it, true or not...yet you rely heavily on unsubstantiated theories
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Why don't you spend a little time at Reasons to Believe. Many of the scientists who write for this website came to their faith in Christianity as adults. They are astrophysicists, biochemists, geneticists and the like. They have given up lucrative careers to write evidences for the Christian faith. Most were not raised with any kind of religious bias.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Extra-biblical sources that reference the Christ: Flavius Josephus (c. 37–c. 100), a Jew and Roman citizen;The Babylonian Talmud;The Dead Sea scrolls are first century or older writings that show the language and customs of some Jews of Jesus' time; similar uses of languages and viewpoints recorded in the New testament and the Dead Sea scrolls are valuable in showing that the New Testament portrays the 1st century period that it reports and is not a product of a later period.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - You just revealed that you did NOT watch the video that I pointed you to. Of the only FOUR extra-Biblical references, Jesus was NEVER named. One of those references has been proven a fraud for over a century now, and in the other three, it was a reference to "Chrestus" and "Chreestians", but that translation of Chreestus only means "anointed one" - which is a GENERAL term of the time for a cult leader. Go watch the video!
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Another lie. Josephus named Jesus specifically. The Talmud references Yeshua, the Hebrew rendering of the name Jesus. Your ignorance is flagrant....its impossible to speak to someone who knows as little as you do. Only foolish people reject what they don't know...but its your choice...bury your head in the proverbial sand, Mr. Planx....for as long as you can......
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx I just watched your video. There certainly is plagerism. In order to determine the original story, one would have to research the ANCIENT TEXTS!!! I challenge you to research the sources referenced in the video....oh, wait, there weren't any sources referenced, just some unknown voice spouting all this erroneous information. BTW, December 25th is not a biblical birthdate....of course you would have to READ the book you wholeheartedly reject in order to know that.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - YES, there is plagerism, because it is COMMON KNOWLEDGE among historians. These facts are well established among scholars. As I must have said several times by now, GET AN EDUCATION. Of course, you don't WANT an education, and that's really the problem here. You want to believe in ridiculous fairy tales.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx What historians? What scholars? I've studied for 17 years the evidences that are available. I'm intimately familiar with biblical text and have sought Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic lexicons to determine original intent. I don't believe just because I was brainwashed. I WAS a self proclaimed atheist beginning in high school and into college. No one in my family as far as I know are Christian. My studies began with the intent to put to rest a nagging doubt about evidence I knew existed.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - You have studied for 17 years, but you have yet to read from any historians or scholars? What have you been studying, exactly? Religious doctrines?
MrPlanx 3 weeks ago
@MrPlanx On the contrary, Mr. Planx. I've never taken anyone's word for anything, but searched diligently the sources provided. I've searched literary history and books of antiquity....nothing compares to the validity of scripture, whether or not you believe its message, no other ancient writing has been authenticated like the bible. I've searched scientific evidences and find many compelling reasons to consider Christianity.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@MrPlanx Its annoying how atheists have their own "faith"...in nothing. The theories that they base their beliefs on is mostly unsubstantiated nonsense that changes like the wind. The writer's of their "bibles" are not authorities of anything, yet what they speak of is treated as though its superior knowledge. The primary way they defend their ideology is to put up false notions of the Christian faith and then tear them down. Nothing they think or say is in the slightest way based on truth.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@MrPlanx I know what I believe and I know why. I am not ashamed of the Gospel for it is the power of God for the salvation of all who believe, first for the Jew and then for the Gentile.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 - No, you BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE, which is what you WANT to believe. That has NOTHING to do with reality. You can not learn the truth about a religion by only studying the doctrines of that religion. You have to study the history from other sources outside of that religion, and weigh the claims against logic and evidence. If you are an honest and intelligent person, you will quickly realize that it is ancient superstition. It is a game for fools and con artists.
MrPlanx 3 weeks ago
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73gummybears 3 weeks ago
@MrPlanx Time and truth walk hand in hand.
73gummybears 3 weeks ago
@73gummybears - Which is exactly why religion is giving way to science. Statistics of Americans: Those born before 1946 who are still alive: less than 5% atheists. Those born after 1976? Over 19% atheists. These knuckle-draggers can kick and scream all they want to.
MrPlanx 3 weeks ago
@MrPlanx I'd check the percentage of people who actually have an accurate knowledge of the message of scripture pre-1946 versus those post 1976. Chances are you'd see a direct correlation between those who are not educated in matters of faith with those who reject it....and increase in disbelief rises with an increase in ignorance of scripture.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@MrPlanx Don't you mean you believe what you want to believe, even in the face of irrefutable evidence. You won't acknowledge the scriptures even though there exists no other record like it. To reject its history, one would have to reject everything written before the printing press was invented. You ignore evidence in the fossil records, in archeology, in biology....just because you want to. Take the journey for yourself....or don't. Your ignorance makes your opinion irrelevant.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 - Yeah, "my ignorance" - You are a fucking idiot.
MrPlanx 3 weeks ago
@MrPlanx Your vocabulary is admirable....another display of superior intelligence.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 -- You're free to believe what you want, but you should realize that most sane and rational folks live by values and morals that FAR EXCEED those that any Biblical author could ever begin to think up! Christians often forget that the Bible, Jesus and God are all 100% MAN-MADE inventions. It was MAN who created God, not the other way around.
Our planet could use a whole lot MORE kindness and mercy and a whole lot LESS Biblical 'morality'!
ColonPal 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal Why thank you for granting me permission to be insane and irrational by believing the scriptures. I'm interested to know what planet you live on, because the assault on Christian values in the last 50 years has produced a level of human suffering like never before. Everything is permissable, no one is allowed say otherwise. Human trafficking is a testimony to what men will do when no moral boundries exist. You can buy a child on the internet to abuse or murder if you like. Good?
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 -- There's no 'assault' on Christian 'values' whatsoever. The past 50 years has seen a DECREASE in human suffering, because religious stupidity is becoming EXTINCT! The FACTS are that today's society has far less genocide and human rights violations than it has at any time in human history. And the closer humanity gets to GETTING RID OF GOD and DELUSIONAL and superstitious religious beliefs, just that much sooner with the planet exist in peace and harmony. Welcome to REALITY!
ColonPal 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal I'd like the resources you are referencing for this garbage. The International Justice Mission would have to disagree wholeheartedly with your insane suggestion that the world is becoming more peaceful....why don't you read the newspaper once in awhile, visit some third world countries or some prisons.....your kind is not interested in finding the truth....you manufacture your own.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 - Doesn't take a genius to do a few simple google searches, if you're truly interested I suggest you do it and you'll see that across all 1st world nations it's pretty unanimous that the vast majority of the earth's population enjoys far more freedom, lives longer and has higher standards of living than ever before. We also have FAR less war and genocide -- ALL thanks to SECULAR and SCIENTIFIC organizations, NOT AT ALL thanks to Faith-based organizations, which do the exact opposite!
ColonPal 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal How much of your time and money do you devote to helping the hurting people around the world? While the lifestyle in your "1st world nations" has improved, millions of people suffer because of it. Sweatshops exist around the world to produce goods and services at dirt cheap prices to keep the 1st world fat cats in their luxury. I'm guessing you're a citizen of one of these?
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 -- EVERY war is about one of 3 thing: GOD, Land, or OIL. And I think it's about time us humans got rid of GOD because God is what people invent for themselves to excuse their hatred of people they don't agree with. The Universe is perfectly explainable through Science, logic and reason anyway, so there's no use for superstitious religious NONSENSE like Islam and Xianity.
Why not instead of being 'Born-Again', don't you morons just GROW THE FUCK UP!?
ColonPal 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal Why don't you do your homework instead of acting like you know what you're talking about. There's so much evidence to consider....but, you'd rather not. Fine. Not a problem for me, but that you want to rid the world of the likes of me sounds a lot like Hitler mentality....lets get rid of everything that suggests authority and just do what we want.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 -- There's ZERO 'evidence' to consider if you're trying to convince someone that 'God created' the Universe. Why do you think the idea of teaching Intelligent Design 'theory' was LAUGHED out of the Supreme Court? It's because the Supreme Court is FAR smarter than the imbeciles that comprise the sum total of Creationism.
So, perhaps you should take your OWN advice and do you own goddamned homework!
ColonPal 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal What Supreme Court case are you referring to? Dates and details will be verified. There are many well educated people who find humor in the basis of atheism, which is nothing but unfounded theory after unfounded theory. The fossil evidence clearly shows that all the animal phyla showed up at one time-no transitional species exist. You've been duped! STUDY!
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal And what's your excuse for hating people you don't agree with?
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 -- I don't hate people who don't agree with me, I PITY them for being so ignorant and try to educate them when I can. Besides, there's nothing even REMOTELY hateful about calling out hate-mongers and bigots on their stupidity and ignorance and it's a personal hobby of mine. And when you consider the fact that the ENTIRE anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-freedom movement is comprised SOLEY of self-described 'Christians', it doesn't take a genius to see who makes up the TRUE hateful agenda!
ColonPal 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal What you say may be true of "self-described Christians", but those who are attempting to live out the mandates of Jesus Christ (biblical Christianity) are not as you describe. Jesus shocked the Jewish crowds when He addressed women as "daughters of Abraham", elevating them to positions equal to men. He spoke words of kindness to those whose lifestyle choices had wrecked havoc on their existence. He taught that not only must we give to those who ask, but we should give even more.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal From you note, it doesn't sound like you're familiar with biblical morality.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 -- Biblical morality has excused and endorsed some of the WORST example of human behavior in history. It views women as property, much like it's brother, the Koran, it endorses slavery and the MURDER of children who curse, and the followers of Christianity have as much or more blood on their hands as Islamic fundamentalists.
So, perhaps it's YOU who isn't familiar with Christian morality, in which case, I would suggest you READ your Holy Babble and inform yourself!
ColonPal 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal I'm already very familiar....you, however, would benefit immensely by reading what you are obviously unfamilar with. The ONLY people who could possibly accept what you say would have to be as ignorant of scripture as you are. Don't get me wrong....there's a lot of people who don't actually know what it says. Its those people who believe but can't defend that you decimate with your twisted logic. Everyone else knows better.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 -- Scripture is a 100% MAN-MADE invention. So quit pretending it's anything more than legend and myth unless you're prepared to show PROOF. And by proof I don't mean merely SAYING 'it's the inspired word of God', because you KNOW that BS won't fly for rational and sane humans like myself.
ColonPal 3 weeks ago
@ColonPal Well if you mean that scripture is 100% WRITTEN down by men, then ok, I'll give you that. Isn't all history written down by men? I mean cows can't write nor sheep nor snakes....who else would write history. Now that that is established, how reliable IS the history? Archeology has proven time and again that the places and the peoples written about are real.
hitime2011 3 weeks ago
@MrPlanx You, uneducated fool, really think that you are RATIONAL ? Think real hard before answering this.
valgez1 1 month ago
@valgez1 - I am certain that I have more of an education than you do. As for being rational, I was programming computers in binary when I was 12 years old, which I taught myself. I designed and built a 6502 based microcomputer. I don't mean assembling one from a kit, either. I'd say that qualifies me as being rational. If you disagree, then try looking up the definition of the word. What I see from your writing is that you are angry at your miserable life.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx :-))) You see now what clown you are: YOU designed computers - HAHA!!! tell me the stories ! - you cooked spaghetti and made Flying Spaghetti Monsters, when you were 12 years old ? Keep on dreaming, - overcome your dyslexia first and then try to finish your 1st grade - if social workers allow you to - you call yourself rational? You don't know the meaning of this word - you are as rational as a menstruating old lady - and, yes, you lead pitiful, measurable, pathetic atheistic life
valgez1 1 month ago
@MrPlanx You are fucking clown - you call yourself rational, little fool ? Somebody actually got Nobel prize for researching irrationality in human behavior - so, stfu, fool. Also, tell me, what exactly rational are you doing by being yourself - a little fool gobbing off on Youtube ? - judging by the line of your reasoning, you hardly even know what computer is. So, what is rational in your pathetic behavior ??? Let's test how rational you are
valgez1 1 month ago
@valgez1 - I can see how your religion has made you into a kind and tolerant person of good standing. People like you are a walking, talking advertisement for the stupidity of religion. Thank you for making my point here better than anything I could have written.
MrPlanx 3 weeks ago
@MrPlanx I am not religious, neither am I an atheist, but, anyway, thank you for recognizing my contribution in the Holly Anti-Atheist crusade.
valgez1 3 weeks ago
@hitime2011 - Since YouTube doesn't let anyone post links to websites, type the following into Google: "acurseonalltheirhouses" and then click on the top search result.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
There is a lot of evidence to support the authenticity of the scriptures. Its annoying to hear people mis-quote passages out of context and claim contradictions. This habit is a manipulation of the text and for those who never bother to study it on their own, may even believe the lies. For those who do bother to pick it up and read it for themselves.....they would find a very different reality. A truth that is surrounded by a ton of evidence......
hitime2011 1 month ago
Watch - YOU SYMBOLIZE HOPE
differentandalike 1 month ago
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I used to believe in god....Until I took an arrow in the knee...
TheGrtC 1 month ago
im atheist also, but this is just mean, having a talk show trying to strip people's beliefs, that is just terrible
Chrisluvslupe 1 month ago
@Chrisluvslupe - Only if you believe that Christians are mentally retarded, THEN you can claim that it is mean. Otherwise these people need to be exposed to the direct sunlight of reason.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Well there is something that you should know maybe people look up to this fantasy only to rid themselves of depression r maybe they look up to a God only to get through the day and also you know there is a difference between Religion and a "Traditionalist" meaning they follow the their religion only out of tradition seems reasonable to me if you ask me and hey perhaps AT LEAST SOMETHING happens after you die I don't care where you go I hope there will at least be somethingafter
MrChach1ng 1 month ago
@MrChach1ng - Yes, people do drugs to relieve themselves of depression, too. Does that make drugs a good idea? Religion actually damages the minds of children. This has been proven in very recent investigations. Children who are exposed to illogical and irrational ideas, and told to accept these things as facts, actually suffer brain damage in the cererbral cortex and have difficulty thinking logically in later life. Fantasy is a nice thing, but it is not real.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Well indeed this is where the term "Trditionalist" comes into play you do it because it is tradition it is what your eldest father has done people mistaken that very easily you know I believe everything science have to show because it is has proof of course but I think you are thinking of extremists Conservatives Jews for example they follow some of the rules only because of well Tradition. But to my opinion I think there is anything wrong with creativity of the mind
MrChach1ng 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Plus think about it this way when you die there must be at least SOMETHING that must happen I don't care if their is no heaven or hell I believe in a soul. So I think there must be something that happens to us after we die which again is an example but my point still stands firm oh and that last part below this comment I meant to say "there isn't anything wrong..etc." Sorry. But you have to realize a lot of these people or at least the Jewish population for example still...
MrChach1ng 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Go to Synagogue and pray and celebrate the holidays and maybe even hold sabbath only out of tradition because of their fore-fathers have done. For example they stayed strong from their religion through the holocaust. Science does have many wonders but unfortunately it has its downers because not many people can find the facination into so much detail. Well that is I am going to say for now sorry for putting too many comments I just wanted to get my point out. Do you wanna add?
MrChach1ng 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Which "religion" are you speaking of? What are the names of the studies...where were they conducted and by whom and over what period of time? More unsubstantiated crap. Holy books, thousands of years old and verified in many ways are to be discarded as meaningless, yet you spout your ideology completely in your own vacuum as though IT were absolute truth. Your agenda is riddled with hypocrisy.
hitime2011 1 month ago
wtf wtf wtr wtf? every single religious post i try to debate on gets blocked by the uploader. what a bunch of cowards. i am so mad that i want to scream. wait, i need to be patient. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ilikelazers 1 month ago
The biggest fear in a persons life is to not know for EVERYONE Theists and Atheists alike when they don't have the answer it creates tremendous fear and to be wrong is what shall acumilate that fear nobody wants to be wrong Theists and Atheists both have great arguments in their stories but unfortunately nobody wants to agree upon one another which creates Choas within this world that we live in today but I don't think it takes a great mind to find that out hopefully
MrChach1ng 2 months ago
We're to love one another, don't over-complicate something that's very simple/
BlotBlackInk 2 months ago
in all these debates they get giant vagina atheists they should get me to do it or someone who's nice to do the debate
jamstamanify 2 months ago
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NathansWatchinYou 2 months ago
Actually the stoning rules apply to the old testament. That was before Jesus died on the cross to save our sins which took away the punishment of stoning.
Not to mention stoning was rules of the people not just part of the religion
sombraros 2 months ago
@sombraros - This is STUPID. The same god who called for stoning of children for their disobedience - EVEN INCLUDING girls who had been raped by their own father - is the SAME god that is in the New Testament. Furthermore, Jesus specifically said that he was not there to give any new laws, and that the laws of the Old Testament were still to be obeyed. Christians just like to cherry pick the parts that they like, and ignore the rest because 90% of it is incredibly amoral today.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx It would be so refreshing to actually listen to someone who knew what they were talking about. These things have other facts surrounding them....other meanings than the isolated way you choose to think about them. And Jesus didn't say the old testament laws were to be obeyed....He said "I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it." Quit talking about things you obviously know nothing about.
hitime2011 1 month ago
Yet theists cant prove there is one. There is the impass. But we can prove your bible is false.
dethklocker1 2 months ago
@dethklocker1 How?
hitime2011 1 month ago
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WTF!! Atheist!!! they cannot even prove there is no God!!
TheMichlink 2 months ago
Faith is believing in something that has no factual evidence behind it. Therefore, having faith in something that can't even be proven right, with GOOD strong evidence, with no debate about it, I would have to say its a bunch of crap.
Why would you let yourself have an invisible crutch?
You're a human being, make your own path. Don't "hold" "Gods" hand through it all. Just shows how much you depend on a fairy tale.
--My Opinion
MushroomRocksGoPop15 2 months ago
@MushroomRocksGoPop15 You are right. Faith without proof or evidence may just be a fairy tale. Doesn't this point apply to evolution? Those who refute the creation of the world as described in scriptures merely WANT to believe that evolution is true and try very hard to manufacture the facts they need to substantiate it, all the while, the Cambrian flash supports a creation view point.....all the animal phyla show up at one time...the transitional species do not exist or are quickly refuted
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011
It does. But, most people are to closed minded and so wrapped up in their truth to even begin thinking about considering other concepts that are probably and in my opinion, are more true than their own.
It is. It's merely based on what they want rather than what they are willing to know and accept. They WANT to have a god, they WANT someones hand to hold, they WANT the easy way out, they WANT to be granted heaven if all they do is pray.
Drives me crazy.
MushroomRocksGoPop15 1 month ago
@MushroomRocksGoPop15 Do you understand the historical integrity of the scriptures? This text is incomparable with any other writing of antiquity. It makes some pretty amazing claims. Many of the people and events are written about in other first century documents-a good number of which were written by those who were actually hostile to the Christian movement. If you refute its historical validity, then you have to reject EVERYTHING written prior to the printing press.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MushroomRocksGoPop15 Please! These "transitional" fossils that are found are quickly refuted, not keeping consistent with other data the evolutionist previously claim as evidence nor is it within the same era. The science is flawed. The only thing that has ever evolved is the evolutionary theory itself.
hitime2011 1 month ago
Most Christians only PRETEND to believe in god. Somewhere they KNOW that it is a ridiculous fable, but they go along with the nonsense "just in case" - and if you disagree, then ask yourself WHY you fear death? Take the most dangerous job you can, and trust that if you die, it just means you'll be in heaven sooner. Go dancing at the top of a partially constructed skyscraper. So what if you fall? You go to heaven, right? No? BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT IS BULLSHIT.
MrPlanx 2 months ago 7
@MrPlanx Not afraid of death, but enjoying life and not seeking to die. So because I'm not suicidal, I don't have faith? That's an interesting perspective. Many who believe are not solid in their knowledge, so they seem defenseless when someone attacks them. Their lack of knowledge doesn't not refute the truth, but it does make them weak and it can make the faith look weak.....but it is not.
hitime2011 1 month ago
@hitime2011 - I didn't say "suicidal" - your argument is a straw man. I said that Christians wouldn't FEAR death if they REALLY believed that crock of shit. The Pope wouldn't have 3 inches of bulletproof plexiglass in his Popemobile. He'd be right out in the open trusting that his god would protect him, and that even if he was killed, it would be for the best because that would be god's plan. IT IS A FARCE AND IN YOUR HEART YOU ALL KNOW IT - no one is that stupid in this age.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Like I said, I don't fear death, but I guess you know what's in everyone's heart? Do you fear death? If you're just going to be worm food, then no big deal, right. Or if this is your only go around....maybe you should be extremely cautious with it all, cause you only get one chance.....
hitime2011 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Did you then think that We had created you in jest (without any purpose), and that you would not be returned to Us (in the Hereafter)? So, God is exalted, the True King. None has the right to be worshipped but Him... (Quran, 23:115-116)
And the Moon is eclipsed, and the Sun and the Moon are fused together, on that Day man will ask: "Where can I run?" No indeed! There will be no safe place. That Day, the only resting place will be your Lord. (Surat al-Qiyama, 8-12)
God bless.
dirtynuke 1 month ago
@MrPlanx that is true.
68293578149584730037 1 month ago
Bahaha :)
prancer303 2 months ago
A lot of people making comments on here need to do some research on how the scientific method works before making comments about how it doesn't work because from your explanations it is obvious you don't understand it at all. For those of you who remember from your science classes in middle school, cheers. Two major problems, among many, with faith based belief systems are the argument from ignorance fallacy and the confirmation bias fallacy. Look them up.
nebjg1989 2 months ago 2
No offense meant to the guys in the video - but they serve rather good antiatheism marketing - interrupting each other, bad manners, manipulation with the sound, overwhelming the op with silly childish methods, etc... Not mentioning the guy looking like a retard with his retarded smile :-) - nothing resembling intelligent debate. If I were an atheist I would be ashamed of leaving comments here.
valgez1 2 months ago
@valgez1 Nono.. you're just mad as fuck cause you're butthurt after listning to this knowing they are right.
4:06 she is such a bad person for letting the caller talk even tho she was the one talking.. not that it matters as it is a fucking DEBATE!
Talking about retards.. you are qualified as one.
Vleesball 2 months ago
@Vleesball Hmm...
valgez1 2 months ago
@valgez1 - Since you wrote, "IF I were an atheist", we can assume you are not. What you SHOULD be ashamed of is admitting to believing idiotic fairy tales in the 21st century. It doesn't matter HOW that message is delivered to you, it will be a bitter pill to you.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx :-))) At least I don't play with "Flying Spaghetti Monsters" like you do - that's the REAL SHAME. Seems like you reached your top while at the kindergarten :-)
valgez1 1 month ago
@MrPlanx "invisible man in the sky that you won't meet until after you die"
So, that is as deep as your Atheistic ideas go? Bearded folks in the sky, talking snakes, talking donkeys? Rights? Not impressive at all for some who claims to be "Intelligent". You are definitely just one of those religion-brainwashed idiots who got molested once or twice by some catholic priest truly believing it was Jesus who molested you - HAHA!!! No doubt it was this way !!!
valgez1 1 month ago
@MrPlanx "invisible man in the sky that you won't meet until after you die"
So, that is as deep as your Atheistic ideas go? Bearded folks in the sky, talking snakes, talking donkeys? Rights? Not impressive at all for some who claims to be "Intelligent". You are definitely just one of those religion-brainwashed idiots who got molested once or twice by some catholic priest truly believing it was Jesus who molested you - HAHA!!! No doubt it was this way
valgez1 1 month ago
@MrPlanx I mean you got molested once or twice by some catholic priest - and, now, after you realized that it was not Jesus :-))) but some catholic priest, you became Atheitic Warrior - no problem, there are many like you - but, beware that retarded Youtube is the only place where anyone can actually argue with you - your insight is so shallow and primitive that no intelligent person will take you seriously. Understand, little fool ?
valgez1 1 month ago
@MrPlanx I mean you got molested once or twice by some catholic priest - and, now, after you realized that it was not Jesus :-))) but some catholic priest, you became Atheitic Warrior - no problem, there are many like you - but, beware that retarded Youtube is the only place where anyone can actually argue with you - your insight is so shallow and primitive that no intelligent person will take you seriously. Understand, little fool ?
valgez1 1 month ago
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@MrPlanx I mean you got molested once or twice by some catholic priest - and, now, after you realized that it was not Jesus :-))) but some catholic priest, you became Atheitic Warrior - no problem, there are many like you - but, beware that retarded Youtube is the only place where anyone can actually argue with you - your insight is so shallow and primitive that no intelligent person will take you seriously. Understand, little fool?
valgez1 1 month ago
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@MrPlanx I mean you got molested once or twice by some catholic priest - and, now, after you realized that it was not Jesus :-) but some catholic priest, you became Atheitic Warrior - no problem, there are many like you - but, beware that retarded Youtube is the only place where anyone can actually argue with you - your insight is so shallow and primitive that no intelligent person will take you seriously. Understand it, little fool?
valgez1 1 month ago
@MrPlanx Since you wrote, "IF I were an atheist", we can assume you are not.
Who is "WE" ? Atheistic Brethren - you are talking like a sect member. Don't say "WE", cause not all atheists are as dumb as you are - some are really smart
valgez1 1 month ago
@valgez1 "We" is ANYONE WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN. If you were an atheist then you wouldn't write, "If I was an atheist". Simple logic.
MrPlanx 1 month ago
@MrPlanx "We" is ANYONE WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN "
Nope, I think you are hallucinating, in your case "WE" refers to the bunch of mindless Athestic Aunts - good to know that you associate yourself with those idiots - makes it clear to me who I am arguing with - so I don't have to waste my energy in vain trying to get your to a serious talk :-)))
valgez1 1 month ago
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chauncey1383 2 months ago
if im rite i go to heaven if your wrong u rot in hell for etrnity, why is they dive to the bootom to get these douchebags at .
chauncey1383 2 months ago
You guys are good but to make it better get a physicist or professor with you guys. We have certain scientific theories on how the planet came to its existence. So please don't say we don't know how it got here.
Underdogpiano 2 months ago
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@Underdogpiano Of course, you don't know how and why it got here.
valgez1 2 months ago
Lol, I can't believe some of the ppl on here are speaking as science as ignorant. Wow ppl, wow
itsthemagic1 3 months ago
i at least like mark for being a caller with manners.
apoorva0426 3 months ago
Actually the evidence for Gods existence is overwhelming but people just like to get involved by voicing an opinion with no research and life dedication to knowledge of the truth so keep dreaming athiest ignore science FACTS embrace THEORIES and hide from TRUTH. Josephous the historian and many others confirmed Jesus story and existences, artifacts were found naming Pontious Pilate and the high priest who sentenced Jesus. History the bible and the universe prove God exists. But be ignorant.
justplotting 3 months ago
@justplotting Look at greece, lots of people speaking of many god's existance. Witnesses and hear-say rank the lowest on evidence credibility, again. No empirical factual evidence has ever been provided.
marigold992 3 months ago
@theFaafia you should ask that question to yourself; how would you explain god exists?
MegaMayorca 3 months ago
If they do beleive in science and looking for truth, why beleive in science if dozens of science have been wrong.".
TheFaafia 3 months ago
@TheFaafia yes dozens of scientific theories have been proven wrong, but thousands or even millions have been proven right, people created religion because we became smart enough to question our own existence, you will base your whole life on millenia old writings just because you cant accept that one day you will die and there will be nothing, conciousness is a bunch of electrical impulses and chemical reactions, so tell me how your spirit lives on after your brain decomposes,
blumpkinable 3 months ago
@blumpkinable "conciousness is a bunch of electrical impulses and chemical reactions" ?? Do you have a proof ? :-)
valgez1 3 months ago
@valgez1 no i dont have any proof, but science does!
blumpkinable 3 months ago
@blumpkinable No, science doesn't ! Just theories and speculations.
valgez1 3 months ago
@valgez1 What? Theory is an explanation of the problem, answers the "how". Speculation holds no place in science. As far as religion, it relies on second hand witnesses, which rank the lowest on evidence credibility. Science takes only real evidence that rank the highest on evidence credibility rank to develop theories (explanations).
marigold992 3 months ago
@marigold992 OK, that's what science does. But who says that any "Explanation" is valid? How do you know that it's not a BS ? :-) The fact that some explanation has a "science" logo attached to it doesn't make it valid enough for me to accept. Don't forget that science is done by humans hence all possible errors and misjudgements that may happen. Scientists may make wrong assumptions, wrong subject definitions, wrong results interpretation, not mentioning human ego involved.
valgez1 3 months ago