mane cobalt are slow af n most of them come automatic. i hate them because uall u here is da same noise throughtout ther whole run unlike a civic u hear that v-tec poppen loud. fck american cars all bout that JDM IMPORTS
@ILike2OwnU2 first of all civics sound like weedwackers so i dont know what your talking about sound and second, all cobalt ss/sc and ss/tc come manual, so dont be trolling with your "V-TAK" and start reading
You haters are retarded? What is so bad about a cobalt? Because they are not an import? You people that think like this forget that Domestic created Muscle, and back in the 60's they tuned up they're cars the way we do today. Id rather own a Nova SS,or a 69 Camaro SS anyday over a Honda!LMAO So now they bring something to play you put it down? Its Racism against cars!LMFAO JK! Seriously,dont hate, its got a german motor,and a swedish tranny! So really, the body is american.Its half breed!!!!
@soundwave132 you bring up a great point, domestic DID indeed create muscle, no doubt, that was until the late 70s/early 80s, then america built fuckin junk. i own a civic SI and i also would so rather have an early muscle car such as a 70 superbird or a early gtx over it, but america cant get it right anymore, so until then i will buy import, and i will be daily driving my import wayyy many more miles than your domestic will last. oh,DO NOT take my word for it, just do a little research!
@Marshmallowrex is that why GMs Ecotech motors and their cobalt currently hold class records in differents devisions and classes all being FWD drag or even lap times?
@carcajoo well I have a cobalt and there's quite a few of theses old civics around where I live with the nasty hatchback that i wouldn't even try to race lol... they've got some crazy ass k20 engines and shit and they kill like crazzy lol
Yea if you kno where your looking you can deff get 500 hp for 5000 but you need to know what your doing I got a 96 ek RWD custom firewall skyline r34 rear diff strapped to the ridgeline v8 scary sound coming from a ricer but I love it.
i been buildin hondas for years nd u my friend are makin me look stupid.... ridgelines come with a j series v6 as there biggest motor honda does not even make v8s...period... a nissan rear is way too wide to even custom fit to a ek, nd wtf would u need a custom firewall for if the car isnt real... u are a disgrace to hondas everywhere go do us all a favor nd buy a mustang...
you cannot get a honda to 500 hp with 5000 dollars your crazy to much reinforcment is needed on the frame for the torque that comes with that the cobalt ss driver could drive nice vid 1/8 is fine less wear on your car.
@ej2project no you cannot get 500HP for 5000 haha. i started a turbo build about a year ago.. spent just over $4000 and was around 230whp. best run was a 13.4. thats not even close bud. btw sold the car because dollar per HP was NOT worth it
@rg3ibanez hey buddy as a car enthusiast overall I must say Id respect the person who can build a car to do amazing things then the guy who bought the car thats already amazing.. just saying...
"shut to hell up" all you Honda boys, times are changing your days of a guaranteed victory are long gone, say what you want, the cobalt still weighs at least 400lbs more, stop making excuses take your defeat like a man! wankers !
@jdmbayarea, that Cobalt's the supercharged, you can tell by the wing. The Cobalt's stock, the Civic's already modded for weight, it should've evened out.
kman your fucking retarded....any car? what about... camaro, corvette, cobalt ss/tc, pontiac G8 Gt, Pontiac GT0....and Much more......all thoughs cars would beat any 1991 piece of shit Honda anyday, anyplace...
if your not an idiot u can make a civic hatch soo fast cause there so light...if u drop a b18 engine in one of those and put the right money into it you will be able to beat any car u pull up next to
wow i was admiering ur comment up to where u said it will be able to beat any car you pull next to? wow ur so fkn stupid! this pos ran a 9.9 wow wat a slow pos my cuzins truck runs like 9.5 and its a heavy ass half a ton extended cab silverado!
I really couldnt care any less for small cars, but thats a nice little cobalt. I hate when people with old cars think ther pos are better because theyre fast. I laugh at them. To some people speed is everything, which I can understand, but dont forget your still driving a pos. Anyone can buy an old ass shell and pop in a motor and a turbo. Shoot I know a kid who works as a bagger who has a seemingly quick civic. At the end of the day, its still a pos and Im laughing at you. BTW I own a Lexus GS.
The Cobalt SS has the ability to beat a few older, 90's Camaros, but you have to remember the Cobalt may be I4, but it's TURBOCHARGED, the Camaro is just N/A with a big engine. Turbos make a lot of power.
i like how when he shifts you can hear the rpms go really low, and slowly rev up. Maybe if he didnt have that 8inch round kazoo on his car he wouldnt lose so much torque to backpressure.
im the owner of the yellow cobalt and everyone that is saying i won because i got a good launch is on crack. I had a 2.36 60 ft. this race. HORRIBLE. and i highly doubt a civic that traps 74 was gonna beat my car that trapped 81. It was only a fairly close race because i got a horrible launch.
well i have the civic and if u can listen to the video i spun all the way threw first and bogged 2nd out bad, did u hear it.. my speed and times are better than that.. iraced it here in cincinnati and my 60's was a 2.28 NON TURBO lol Bone Stock.. My car has a fully built head on it now and maybe next time im down there in my N/A Car we'll do it again ;) k??
it's a goddamn Chevy!!! just like an srt-4 is just a fucking neon!!! You americans , you have no imagination!!! Imports all the way!!! Civics kick ass!!! Your american cars don't last!!!! They suck!!! They keep breaking down!!!!
Whatever you guys say about your Cobalt.....it's still a piece of Chevy shit! Civics are still more impressive overall for years. Chevy is still a Chevy, just good at making farm trucks.
The cobalt ss S/C is the best chevy they built, i got mine pretty damn fast... and dude kno matter what you do to a civic they still suck and like everyone says they sod like weed
the ecotec engine can be built to make 1400hp!! dont believe gm has a manual on how to take the engine from stock rite up to the 1400hp lets see a jap 4cyl do tht
haha you're funny FUCK OFF lets see some honda piece of shit beat a camaro oh wow you can mod you little piece of shit lets see a stock 500 hp one oh wait THEY DON'T FUCKING EXSIST
haha you're funny too 'coz your analysis between a 4-cylinder and a v8 camaro is of course not a fair match....STUPID! Your American insecurities is obviously showing......your cars are still pieces of shit because I just found out that the real meaning of FORD(for example)is Found-On-The-Road-Dead!!!!Hahaha!!!
yea i guess you're right ford does suck i have to agree there BUT you also have to remember where your money is going if i liked ford i woulda mentioned a mustang obviously i didn't i just get so pissed when i'm riding around in my car and all of the sudden i hear "fart fart fart fart" coming from an exhaust and he sounds fast but's only doing 30 mph omg it pisses me off its so gawd damn anoying
Mustang is a nice car, no doubt. But just the fact that it's made by Ford doesn't convince me to wanna own one...as far as reliability's concerned, no shit, I know where my money's goin', not on the "road....DEAD"!!!
I have an stock internals Evo with boltons & ecu reflash that does 373HP at the wheels, has awd, outruns many Camaro's (see my vids), and still gets 25mpg.
I still own a T/A, owned & raced many WS6's, and think they are ok; but they have nowhere near the character, fun, or exclusivity as the tuner cars.
Ayone can pump-up V8's; accept the hi-tech challange of doing same with 4 cylinders...
@MCPOAJ neither does 500 hp stock camaro. well except the new ones, although that will run you a good 30 thousand. i'd rather spent 5,000 modifying a honda to 500 hp. soo my point...same power as you, alot better gas mileage. bitch.
both cars stink..!!!
museman007 4 months ago
mane cobalt are slow af n most of them come automatic. i hate them because uall u here is da same noise throughtout ther whole run unlike a civic u hear that v-tec poppen loud. fck american cars all bout that JDM IMPORTS
ILike2OwnU2 5 months ago
@ILike2OwnU2 first of all civics sound like weedwackers so i dont know what your talking about sound and second, all cobalt ss/sc and ss/tc come manual, so dont be trolling with your "V-TAK" and start reading
synther99 5 months ago
@ILike2OwnU2 Your numerous spelling errors shows that you're the typical ricer.
krocialblack 3 months ago
You haters are retarded? What is so bad about a cobalt? Because they are not an import? You people that think like this forget that Domestic created Muscle, and back in the 60's they tuned up they're cars the way we do today. Id rather own a Nova SS,or a 69 Camaro SS anyday over a Honda!LMAO So now they bring something to play you put it down? Its Racism against cars!LMFAO JK! Seriously,dont hate, its got a german motor,and a swedish tranny! So really, the body is american.Its half breed!!!!
soundwave132 6 months ago
@soundwave132 you bring up a great point, domestic DID indeed create muscle, no doubt, that was until the late 70s/early 80s, then america built fuckin junk. i own a civic SI and i also would so rather have an early muscle car such as a 70 superbird or a early gtx over it, but america cant get it right anymore, so until then i will buy import, and i will be daily driving my import wayyy many more miles than your domestic will last. oh,DO NOT take my word for it, just do a little research!
digmynewsocks 5 months ago
dude fwd and wet pavement equals one bad race,
RocknRican 6 months ago
@Marshmallowrex is that why GMs Ecotech motors and their cobalt currently hold class records in differents devisions and classes all being FWD drag or even lap times?
YellowCamaro85 7 months ago
Does the "challenge of tuning" not include fixing a headlight?
jleja09 8 months ago
@jleja09 damn BURNED!
gehennamaggot666 8 months ago
I'm thinking someone needs a motor swap
supersmashist 9 months ago
@supersmashist agreed, look's like someone need's to finally upgrade to a DOHC.
poonpiratex420 8 months ago
both r slow but the cobalt is stok civic idk u can do anny thing to it and it still will be slow lolz
craZybansheeboy 1 year ago
@craZybansheeboy ...lol the cobalt isnt stock.
gsxrpik 1 year ago
@gsxrpik the ss comes with a supercharger or turbocharger so actually it is stock
illni11 9 months ago
CHEVYDUDE SAID IT , A HONDA IS A FART IN A CAN ! LOL....
carcajoo 1 year ago
@carcajoo well I have a cobalt and there's quite a few of theses old civics around where I live with the nasty hatchback that i wouldn't even try to race lol... they've got some crazy ass k20 engines and shit and they kill like crazzy lol
Belvadeeer 1 year ago
Yea if you kno where your looking you can deff get 500 hp for 5000 but you need to know what your doing I got a 96 ek RWD custom firewall skyline r34 rear diff strapped to the ridgeline v8 scary sound coming from a ricer but I love it.
applesnaxz08 1 year ago
@applesnaxz08
i been buildin hondas for years nd u my friend are makin me look stupid.... ridgelines come with a j series v6 as there biggest motor honda does not even make v8s...period... a nissan rear is way too wide to even custom fit to a ek, nd wtf would u need a custom firewall for if the car isnt real... u are a disgrace to hondas everywhere go do us all a favor nd buy a mustang...
BelowTheRadarRacing 1 year ago
- even though the civic got beat, still gotta love the HONDAS !
JUSTINxYIN 1 year ago
both 2 great sounding cars
(Y)
thumbs up for Racing!
xCobaIt 1 year ago
no disrespect but......i thought the tuner era was over? i mean i dont see to many of them around anymore! TRIPPY ShIT MAN!
MrJdevil85 1 year ago
@chevydude2
so far from the truth. a comment like this is expexted from someone with the username "chevydude2" though. just sayin
michael4472353 1 year ago
that cobalt looks beautiful!!!!
PnutButterNbicheZ 1 year ago
you cannot get a honda to 500 hp with 5000 dollars your crazy to much reinforcment is needed on the frame for the torque that comes with that the cobalt ss driver could drive nice vid 1/8 is fine less wear on your car.
Phormerte 1 year ago
@Phormerte
you sir have no idea about cars. a 90s Civic can definitely have 500hp with $5000 if you can do all labor yourself... it will also run 10s with 500hp
ej2project 1 year ago
@ej2project no you cannot get 500HP for 5000 haha. i started a turbo build about a year ago.. spent just over $4000 and was around 230whp. best run was a 13.4. thats not even close bud. btw sold the car because dollar per HP was NOT worth it
person3213 1 year ago
@person3213 what kind of car?? 230WHP thats it??? wow
chainsawmanny 11 months ago
1/8 mile race?.... lame...
silfocus84 1 year ago
Thats right show hondas whats really good! You gotta put thousands into them to make em run we come ready stock!
rg3ibanez 1 year ago
@rg3ibanez hey buddy as a car enthusiast overall I must say Id respect the person who can build a car to do amazing things then the guy who bought the car thats already amazing.. just saying...
Slowyota65 8 months ago
single cam
taylorromeo 1 year ago
Why is everyone making such a deal about a 1/8 mile race???
Suazovic 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHA torqueless rice-mobile civic hondah sounds liks a cow getting a cattle prod up the ass looses again. civics are gay homo cars.
Topfueltrooper 1 year ago
Lol cobalt wins!!
tywoerner 1 year ago
the cobalt won this past friday again... bye bye honda
TheJrip420 1 year ago
uhhh.. cobalt wins..
urmomschesthair1 1 year ago
"shut to hell up" all you Honda boys, times are changing your days of a guaranteed victory are long gone, say what you want, the cobalt still weighs at least 400lbs more, stop making excuses take your defeat like a man! wankers !
cortina490 1 year ago
cobalt-stock civic-tuned , both four cylinders so the import dudes cant bitch about engine displacement
TheBaller357 2 years ago
cobalt beat the civic when the civic has been tuned
animetodamaximum 2 years ago
ur retarded. a cobalt ss doesnt do a quarter mile in less than 10 seconds w/o mods.
boomdude 2 years ago
yea..thats why it's 1/8 mile
focusizhere 1 year ago
i bet that ss was turbochargedd thats why it won. toss a turbo kit on that civic and have a rematch.
jdmbayarea 2 years ago
@jdmbayarea, that Cobalt's the supercharged, you can tell by the wing. The Cobalt's stock, the Civic's already modded for weight, it should've evened out.
Nwambe 1 year ago
@jdmbayarea lol you are dumb, its supercharged and came like that from the factory.
dont start the "if it had 5 turbozzzzz and was full race setup it would win easily" crap.
Joelit121 1 year ago
lajefade ur so full of shit
snowvam 2 years ago
This isn't 1/4 mile.
ELPacman 2 years ago
balt ftw
thecashier 2 years ago
Civic hatchbacks are shit cars..
crimson25haze 2 years ago
kman your fucking retarded....any car? what about... camaro, corvette, cobalt ss/tc, pontiac G8 Gt, Pontiac GT0....and Much more......all thoughs cars would beat any 1991 piece of shit Honda anyday, anyplace...
hellon45 2 years ago
Probably. But all those cars u listed would be stock. And the Civic would have 10+k put into it to beat them. Muscle cars all they way
sockboys111 2 years ago
PADIDDLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
camopaint0707 2 years ago
if your not an idiot u can make a civic hatch soo fast cause there so light...if u drop a b18 engine in one of those and put the right money into it you will be able to beat any car u pull up next to
kman10105 2 years ago
wow i was admiering ur comment up to where u said it will be able to beat any car you pull next to? wow ur so fkn stupid! this pos ran a 9.9 wow wat a slow pos my cuzins truck runs like 9.5 and its a heavy ass half a ton extended cab silverado!
lajefadecarebear 2 years ago
that civics second gear is bs !!! ls trans
rascles 2 years ago
SS beat that trash!
StefanTheSerb 2 years ago
cobalt ss supercharged is trash.
and envicity not everyone can make a turbo civic i bet morons like you wouldnt know where to begin to remove an engine.
rahe35 2 years ago
Your right, I dont, but there is no need since I have the cash to pay someone to do it. HA!
envicity 2 years ago
yea clearly its trash considering it just took a civic once again....
Snakes709 2 years ago
why would someone want to? sure it's faster but in the end you're still driving a 4 cylinder civic.
admiraljimmy 2 years ago
I really couldnt care any less for small cars, but thats a nice little cobalt. I hate when people with old cars think ther pos are better because theyre fast. I laugh at them. To some people speed is everything, which I can understand, but dont forget your still driving a pos. Anyone can buy an old ass shell and pop in a motor and a turbo. Shoot I know a kid who works as a bagger who has a seemingly quick civic. At the end of the day, its still a pos and Im laughing at you. BTW I own a Lexus GS.
envicity 2 years ago
BTW, lexus is built by toyota, so you might as well own a camry.
travswilly 2 years ago
hahaha i love the cobalt dam i hope the new concept one comes out XD
StelthNight 2 years ago
did those cars just make 9 second runs? both of them are worthy of praise!
freeviber 2 years ago
1/8mille
houa90 2 years ago
American Made all the way
cmh1245 2 years ago
i think that civic has a d16z6 mostly stock and its for sale in my area
moserd91 2 years ago
great cobalt run !!
KayMinns 2 years ago
Just for u all that are talkin up v8's this cobalt beats the fuck out of mustangs and comaro's. any dumbass can bolt on parts, but can you tune em.
cosmopik08 3 years ago
yeah anyone can get a tune. but can you put all the power to the ground in a torque filled FWD car? good luck! i suffer from it, CA stage 4 CSS.
jimmytango 3 years ago
Umm if a cobalt did beat a camaro i punch chevy in the throat, and the driver of the camaro. lol. Sorry but 4 bangers are for chicks and japs.
Xerxes371 2 years ago
thats just your narrowmindedness talking, get a life.
cosmopik08 2 years ago
The Cobalt SS has the ability to beat a few older, 90's Camaros, but you have to remember the Cobalt may be I4, but it's TURBOCHARGED, the Camaro is just N/A with a big engine. Turbos make a lot of power.
Quatermain98526 2 years ago
The new Balts are turbo, but this one is supercharged
zx636d6f 2 years ago
wat kinda hatch is that
ricer712 3 years ago
slowass civic
Stevenguira 3 years ago
I was sure that honda would win...
lightbalt 3 years ago
i like how when he shifts you can hear the rpms go really low, and slowly rev up. Maybe if he didnt have that 8inch round kazoo on his car he wouldnt lose so much torque to backpressure.
ericjackson40 3 years ago
Bowtie beat that ass bad. American pride baby.
JPhinfan86 3 years ago
nice modd civic and nice stock cobalt
sejodieron 3 years ago
They sound like a Cuisinart.
RandallFlaggNY 4 years ago
One of those or Both cars much have a weedeater motor you hear the way it sounds?
rgree20 4 years ago
yea that would def b the honda.
zsk8er16 4 years ago
Yea I know all civics sound like that
rgree20 4 years ago
I think they sound great, esp at high RPM.
ihmdad 4 years ago
I'll spank that cobalt SS with my jdm h22a eg hatch thats garaunteed!!
KhmerPiruG 4 years ago
oooo GUARANTEED HUH? hahaha
zsk8er16 4 years ago
are you serious? a JDM h22 eg hatch is about 13.9's in the quarter spinning in 1st.
malibubarbiie1111 3 years ago
Is this directed at me? if so, 13.9's isnt fast.
zsk8er16 3 years ago
for a 4 cylinder STOCK "n/a".... that's pretty quick.
malibubarbiie1111 3 years ago
HELL YEAHH GUARANTEED!!!
cosmopik08 2 years ago
im the owner of the yellow cobalt and everyone that is saying i won because i got a good launch is on crack. I had a 2.36 60 ft. this race. HORRIBLE. and i highly doubt a civic that traps 74 was gonna beat my car that trapped 81. It was only a fairly close race because i got a horrible launch.
zsk8er16 4 years ago
well i have the civic and if u can listen to the video i spun all the way threw first and bogged 2nd out bad, did u hear it.. my speed and times are better than that.. iraced it here in cincinnati and my 60's was a 2.28 NON TURBO lol Bone Stock.. My car has a fully built head on it now and maybe next time im down there in my N/A Car we'll do it again ;) k??
malibubarbiie1111 3 years ago
yeah bring a real car to the race next time!lol
razzordog 3 years ago
it's a goddamn Chevy!!! just like an srt-4 is just a fucking neon!!! You americans , you have no imagination!!! Imports all the way!!! Civics kick ass!!! Your american cars don't last!!!! They suck!!! They keep breaking down!!!!
cruise30 4 years ago
not too bad, consider the cobalt got a very good launch.
hangguy209 4 years ago
Cobalt is supercharged with "Super-crack"!
k3moi 4 years ago
nice race, looks like the balt got it right off the line and just held its lead
and for the guy above aways, the 2nd gear is alright with my balt atleast, i just hate 1st gear, its so short
halfj99 4 years ago
Whatever you guys say about your Cobalt.....it's still a piece of Chevy shit! Civics are still more impressive overall for years. Chevy is still a Chevy, just good at making farm trucks.
k3moi 4 years ago
honda boys are faihful even in all the videos where they're getting ther ass handed to them.
antwan17 4 years ago
Becuse we have faith in the product, know what they will do, respect their reliability, and enjoy the challange of tuning...
ihmdad 4 years ago
That must have been his POS civic.....
Crackster2006 4 years ago
No, but I'd drive it.
And I'm sure it's faster than what you drive.
Post video of your car racing, losing that is.
ihmdad 4 years ago
Imhdad is fag....
Crackster2006 4 years ago
Is that the best you can provide for insult?!
You smokin' crack & think that's funny...
ihmdad 4 years ago
The cobalt ss S/C is the best chevy they built, i got mine pretty damn fast... and dude kno matter what you do to a civic they still suck and like everyone says they sod like weed
wackers
Crackster2006 4 years ago
Believe what you want & like whatever.
Fact is, however, Japs build better cars.
Check Consumer Reports on quality or resale;
Civic beats Cobalt on every category...
Cobalt is cool car, however, so wish you luck!
ihmdad 4 years ago
oh no you are stone men civic is scooter not a car lol chevy ist real car moron
3steeve 4 years ago
the ecotec engine can be built to make 1400hp!! dont believe gm has a manual on how to take the engine from stock rite up to the 1400hp lets see a jap 4cyl do tht
bszondi 4 years ago
Stock 4g63 handles 550hp on stock internals.
Let's see ANY domestic 4 cylinder do that.
GM failed the last 20 years to beat Japs:
At quality,cost,resale value,reliability,etc.
Oh, and GM just set one record, though:
GM lost more $ last year than any company,
EVER!!!
WOO WHOO, go Chevy go!
ihmdad 4 years ago
haha you're funny FUCK OFF lets see some honda piece of shit beat a camaro oh wow you can mod you little piece of shit lets see a stock 500 hp one oh wait THEY DON'T FUCKING EXSIST
MCPOAJ 4 years ago
haha you're funny too 'coz your analysis between a 4-cylinder and a v8 camaro is of course not a fair match....STUPID! Your American insecurities is obviously showing......your cars are still pieces of shit because I just found out that the real meaning of FORD(for example)is Found-On-The-Road-Dead!!!!Hahaha!!!
k3moi 4 years ago
yea i guess you're right ford does suck i have to agree there BUT you also have to remember where your money is going if i liked ford i woulda mentioned a mustang obviously i didn't i just get so pissed when i'm riding around in my car and all of the sudden i hear "fart fart fart fart" coming from an exhaust and he sounds fast but's only doing 30 mph omg it pisses me off its so gawd damn anoying
MCPOAJ 4 years ago
Mustang is a nice car, no doubt. But just the fact that it's made by Ford doesn't convince me to wanna own one...as far as reliability's concerned, no shit, I know where my money's goin', not on the "road....DEAD"!!!
k3moi 4 years ago
I have an stock internals Evo with boltons & ecu reflash that does 373HP at the wheels, has awd, outruns many Camaro's (see my vids), and still gets 25mpg.
I still own a T/A, owned & raced many WS6's, and think they are ok; but they have nowhere near the character, fun, or exclusivity as the tuner cars.
Ayone can pump-up V8's; accept the hi-tech challange of doing same with 4 cylinders...
ihmdad 4 years ago
@MCPOAJ neither does 500 hp stock camaro. well except the new ones, although that will run you a good 30 thousand. i'd rather spent 5,000 modifying a honda to 500 hp. soo my point...same power as you, alot better gas mileage. bitch.
91kevinl 1 year ago
im proud of chevy for building a badass car like the cobalt. i have the S/C model with a mods and the car is really fucking fast.....
Crackster2006 4 years ago
i hate the 2nd gear of the Cobalt, i test drove one, not to shabby but 2nd gear seemed to drop to low in the rpms
FastisFast 4 years ago
funny how they have been making "performance" imports for years, chevy steps in late in the game and builds a pretty badass ride
birdbeak22 4 years ago
Smoked that fool in the civic.
rampagexxx 4 years ago
spun the hell of off first and 2nd gear didnt hit hard at all lol wow take this one off lol
malibubarbiie1111 4 years ago
It is what it is; that's racing.
As long as it was fun, it was worthwhile!
It was fun fun watching so it stays...
Seriously though, you other run was better;
However, I was prepping for Dash for Cash so
I didn't get your other race on video. Sorry!
ihmdad 4 years ago