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  • it's true we don't have all of the papyrus, only fragments. So what! We don't have any of the golden plates! the more logical conclusion is that JS had the book of breathings because those are common and hundreds exist in museums, but no books of abraham have ever been discovered. the more logical conclusion by a landslide is that there never were golden plates or a book of abraham PERIOD

  • @mike30701 You should actually educate yourself for a change instead of believing the obvious drive by anti-mormon claims. The found manuscript IS NOT the book Joseph translated the BOA from. It is simply a working copy of the common "facsimilees" with a common Book of Breathings attached. The actual BOA is elsewhere....

  • these people lie... I am not even a behavioral scientist and I can plainly see the behaviors and mannerisms that demonstrate misdirection and 'avoidance'... plus add in the all the historical evidence ... modern scientific inquiry ... these people are intentionally misleading people

  • While these arguments are strictly true, it is simply scraping the bottom of the ideas barrel to maintain the possibility of Joseph Smith not being a bald-faced liar.

  • Michael Rhodes forgot that you should not bare false witness.

  • @athono You and your kind are the ones who should not bear false witness..... Cause you do it on EVERY ISSUE in relation to mormonism. And I should know as a former believer in nothing and a Christian and anti-mormon and anti-religionist. So, don't tell us who bears false witness, I actually know for a FACT who does it, and it's NOT the mormons, it's anti-mormons like you.

  • @leeuniverse You are correct, the actual BOA was not a scrap pile of fragments but a collection "perfectly preserved" done in "Red Ink". The anti's more often than not attack the wrong writings. It's funny really.

  • Sickening! willingness to lie to protect beliefs at all cost even in light of direct evidence The facsimiles match forensically so the Harry Potter example just murders the truth. Make a religious person think and their would be no religion...make a Mormon examine their own faith and they will find ways to twist reality. FAIR in time will be remembered in history as some of the worlds greatest deceivers. Makes me physically ill and I'm Mormon

  • You're Mormon and you think that your own religion "twists reality?" Why are you still in the church?

  • I study the church history and I've read what the critics have to say about the book of mormon and joseph smith...

    yet, I still have faith in the church and I have examined it many times!

  • Really, you guys' politeness is astounding.

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  • Is there an Egyptologist outside of the LDS Church that supports Micheal Rhodes' claims about the Book of Abraham?

  • Of course not, thelight. I have yet to hear of a single non-Mormon archeologist or historian who believes a shred of the nonsense Mormons teach.

    By the way, the church has still not responded to the DNA study showing Native Americans are from East Asia and are not related to anyone from the Mideast. Unless the scientists (mormon & non-mormon) are all lying, the BOM is not only dead wrong but an utter fraud.

  • Aren't you snappy?

    They don't need to respond to the study. The Nephites and Lamanites were not the only peoples in the area, the Nephites went extinct, and there was a lot of intermingling involved. You won't be able to narrow down any Native Americans to any one origin place in the world.

  • Ok aside from the fact that your an idot. Since you want to play the "extinct people" card why don't the Mormons test the DNA of Joseph Smith's family their not extinct....if it proves he's of Hebrew Descent (because he claimed he was directly related to the Christ) then the Mormon Bible is the real deal. No amount of "intermingling" would hide from DNA tests unless you came from another planet so that card is out the fucking window....NEXT!

  • Aside from the fact that you don't know how to spell "you're..." or "they're..." What "Extinct People" card?

    How do we do DNA tests on somebody who is not alive anymore?

    You can be related to someone and not have it show in your DNA.

  • i do know how to use compound words but I was in a bit of a rush; wasting my time to answer someone who doesn't know shit of what 'they're' talking about you tend to lose literary correctness. To answer your dumbass question you would need a fragment of bone or hair but this wouldn't be neccessary because JS bloodlines are still around today. It also wouldn't need to prove his relation to christ it would simply need to test for those sequences found in Hebrew DNA.

  • Furthermore, you wouldn't need to prove direct descent just simply the fact if what JS had said is true than he would have Hebrew roots. The Extinct people I'm referring to is the comment made by another viewer 'cause she said the Lamanites spoken of in th Book of Moron are no longer here but according to his teachings he never makes that distinction he simply labels American natives as the lamanites. About your comment about being related but it won't show in DNA tests that is utter stupity.

  • Correction; Stupidity,

  • Utter stupity. You know, winning a debate is more about proving your argument than hurling insults at the other side, but I guess you knew that...

    The Nephites and Lamanites are not necessarily Hebrews, and they have been stated by the leaders of the church to only be one of the sources of ancestry for Native Americans, not the only one.

    As for Joseph Smith saying he was related to Jesus, can you give me a direct quote or where you found that?

  • Being a real book translated by the Holy Ghost, obviously not. However, the idea of other books being including in Egyptian funeral text and using the funeral text vignettes to depict scenes in the story.... there are several examples of this being done. The theories presented by FARMS are in no way far fetched or desperately seeking answers.

  • Of course not, if they did then they would be in the LDS Church...

  • This guy giving the speech is making no sense to any sort of argument or debate. He is basically talking off the 'cuff.'

    He is flashing a few bits of random text on the projected screen and rambles with out getting to any factual conclusions.

    Sorry, but he needs to get some real research to back up his speakings.

  • He is an Egyptologist and has done extensive research on this subject. Just because you may not understand it, does not make it fact.

  • @fairldsorg From what college did he graduate, and under whom did he study in his post graduate days?

  • @laDy8A5737 His website states:M.S., University of New Mexico (1989), Physics

    Thesis: The Determination of Starspots on Eclipsing RS Canum Venaticorum Binary Stars by Computer Analysis of their Light Curves

    B.S., Air Force Institute of Technology (1982), Electrical Engineering

    Graduate work at Johns Hopkins University (1970-1973), Egyptology

    Graduate work at Freie Universitaet Berlin (1977-1978), Egyptology

    B.A., Brigham Young University (1970), Classical Greek

  • @fairldsorg Thank you for the response. 

  • Basically you and your ilk have been lied to by your mommy and daddy!

    Joseph Smith was a great and holy man, died without guilt on his conscience and the Book of Mormon is the Word of God.

    You better get your facts straight, and figure out who is on the Lords side, who?

    fairlds . org

    for the truth.

  • TCLDS

    I'd argue Joe died without guilt on his conscience because he was a sociopath who didn't care about any1 but himself. All his 'revelations' were about how he could personally benefit from his new religious movement.

    questions:

    Do u begin reasoning w/'The Church Is True' when determining whether it's true?

    How did u come to your conclusions?

    What sources did u use? Avoid?

    Did your "feelings" play a large role in your truthseeking method?

    What do u reject to maintain support for Moism?

  • You poor misguided little dumbass; you honestly believe that Joseph F. Smith Jr. was a holy-man? I've met drunks holier than JS Jr. I'm a truth seeker and NOTHING about this man you and your cult leaders hold in such high regard as a man Chosen by Yahweh. I have Docs on this that would rival any history book you could through at me. You would beat yourself for believing this swill of garbage if you knew a QUARTER of what i know about your so-called Prophet!

  • Yes I do.

    Why, have you met him?

    What do you know?

    What "cult leaders?"

  • The cult leaders is referred to mean your Moron church, and you don't need to meet Joseph Smith to know his entire religion is fictitious. You just need common sense which has obviously passed you by at a great speed! To tell you what I know is the same as throwing pearls to swine they simply ignore it and it's value. Ignorant white people like yourself; circumvent truths and pick apart things instead of digesting everything that is told you, hence telling you anything is a waste of time.

  • Actually it's only obvious you didn't watch the video but commented in ignorance before even starting it.

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  • The Koran, Another Testament of Jesus Christ?

  • Joe Smith obviously didn't know Egyptian, "reformed" or otherwise

    there is no way that his Egyptian alphabet & grammar would stand close scrutiny by Egyptologists or grammarians

    you can check that out on the internet, then see Champollion's work or go to your local library & check out a book on Egyptian heroglyphics

    regrettably, something that Joe Smith did not have access to

  • FC275,

    good points. Somehow i get the feeling that these true believers will simply ignore what u just said because it forces them to think about their 'firm foundation'. Plus Elder Packer won't allow them to investigate church history without "seeing the hand of the Lord in everything", always proving the church is true...Might as well be reasoning with a cucumber. At least the cuke has a reason not to deal with the rest of uncorrelated history. Thanks for the reminder of Eg.Alph & Grammar.

  • the book of breathings is NOT the book of abraham.

  • This guy can rationalize all day about what he doesn't like in the DVD. There is one hard fact that proves Joseph Smith a fraud.

    Every Mormon has three facsimiles in their quad, with numbered references to Joseph's "translation" of the hieroglyphics. JS missed the translation by a mile. It's obvious he just guessed at the meaning based on the pictures.

    If JS bungled the translation of what we have and can check, how can you possibly trust his "translation" of mysteriously missing documents?

  • Smith missed by a mile eh? That's not what my independent research into the ancient Egyptians shows. You are dreaming.

  • "My independent research..." What did you find? The passages lifted from the Sensen text and then pasted into the stela, creating gibberish?

    Name three pictographs JS translated correctly, NOT including the (obvious to a five-year-old) heavenly ark, four seasons/quarters of the earth, and altar. Joseph pretended to translate hundreds of pictographs, and his % correct is surprisingly low for someone with such a passion for Egypt.

  • So who are you to be able to decide before hand what is allowed and what isn't? I can show you more than a mere three if you are interested. But don't even coe on here pretending you are the Johhny Authority who dictates what is, and what is not allowed. I won't play that idiotic arrogant game of yours with you. I have important people to talk to and learn with, not some yoyo pretender himself.

  • "I won't play that idiotic arrogant game of yours" followed by "I have important people to talk and learn with."

    I see, my arrogance is idiotic, but your arrogance is important.

    So your answer is zero. Zero hieroglyphs translated correctly.

    I don't pretend to be an "authority," I've simply shared a fact, that EVERYTHING that JS claimed to translate, for which we have the original document, he failed. Completely.

    Meanwhile your rebuttal amounts to a self-important ad hominem attack.

  • Yep, always leaping with illogic to hastily and incorrectly drawn conclusions, as a typical critic does. You have no facts dude. Your arrogance about having facts is enough to tell me you are a complete waste of time to even attempt reasoning with. You already have closed your mind without any evidence.

  • You're right. I asked you for some simple facts, and instead of providing them, you chose to attack me personally, ignoring my questions and the larger issue.

    I asked you to reason with me.

    You refused.

    Here's plenty of facts:

    trialsofascension(dot)net/morm­on/abraham.html

  • And here is far more accurate information (though I have a sneaking suspicion you have no interest to vest in discovering for yourself the answers. Look up (all one word) thebackyardprofessor. That's my You Tube site, where I have hundreds of videos refuting this silliness.

  • birostrisphile,

    The Backyard Professor's backyard is La La Land, and He has tried in "typical pitiful vain" to block the truth from getting out. He is not a man of God, but a self righteous fool who is locked in the hopelessness of Mormonism.

    The sad videos he puts out are the work of the Devil himself, and have no truth to the Word of God. We can only pray God delivers people like me from the Lie of the LDS. I feel sorry for him, but his arrogant Lies makes it so very hard.

  • My videos are the work of the devil hisself? Well then, I must be little Satan Jr! GRIN! It's so fun to have such logic displayed for us to see. Thank you.

  • You battle the Lord my friend, not me. That is your fight. Your self righteous arrogant videos only act as a road to the ultimate defeat of your false teachings & Prophet Joe and the Black hater Mr. Young.

    We are still waiting for the address to the " Book of Mormon Museum of Artifacts"

    P.S. Can you please tell us the Museum Hours?

    Thanks.

  • It's not a museum, its a research institution, but I know you will never allow yourself to darken its doors and enter and learn. The Neal A. Maxwell Institute. Tha you refuse to read and learn is most telling indeed.

    We glory in the Lord, we don't battle Him.

  • No, you battle the Lord with your Videos of Lies, The Lie of Mormonism, And I would be very afraid if I were you.

    research institution?

    No, I am talking about the "Book of Mormon Museum of Artifacts" You do have a Museum don't you? You know a place that has all the Artifacts left behind from the Millions & Millions of People in the BOM. I need the address to the Museum so I can do Learn about all this "Truth". And the Hours please, I don't want to show up Late.

  • It's impossible for Millions & Millions of People described in the BOM not to leave behind some sort of artifacts, Now please tell me where they are?

    Are you saying we should believe your story, yet you don't any Artifacts?

    The Address Please?

  • And now you know how things are possible and what things are possible and impossible eh? I don't suppose you could share with us how *you* know this? Clairvoyance? Mediumship? crystal ball? witchcraft?

  • Still waiting for the Address.

  • Good luck! Do you need me to mail you some razors so you can keep well shaved?

  • Things are only funny if they have some sort of truth.

    You my friend are not funny.

    You are running again!

    I need a REAL Travel Agency that offer MANY DIFFERENT BOM Sight Seeing Packages. I want to Tour all the Wonderful Ancient Cities & Ruins in the BOM

    They don't exist do they?

    the "Book of Mormon Museum of Artifacts"

    doesn't exist ETHER!!

    Little Man, have you every got past your little self righteous arrogant Ego and ask yourself WHY!!!!

  • funnrun

    You my friend are not funny.

    Kerry

    Neither are you smart.

  • funnrun

    Little Man, have you every got past your little self righteous arrogant Ego and ask yourself WHY!!!!

    Kerry

    Garsh..... I guess it never dawned on my own egotistical self to ask why...... thank you for your sterling guidance. I just couldn't a dun it without you.

  • funnrun

    You are running again!

    Kerry

    Well ya know, the next Olympics I need to try out for are a mere four years away, so I gots ta run a lot ya know.....

  • Avoiding my Question and Rewriting my Question is only making my point.

    Stop acting like a fool.

    Answer my Questions.

    Address & Referral please!

    Little Man!

    Where is your Truth?

  • funnrun:

    Stop acting like a fool.

    Answer my Questions.

    Address & Referral please!

    Kerry:

    Oh why yes, of course. How utterly silly and inept of my little self. Address? Google Search, then type in FARMS or Neal A. Maxwell Institute. That'll get you all the information you need on the Book of Mormon. I promise.

  • funnrun:

    Avoiding my Question and Rewriting my Question is only making my point.

    Kerry:

    Avoiding my question of your question is only making my point. Isn't this cool that we can both make claims all over the place? What fun!

  • Your stalling.

    You're the One telling the World they have it All wrong!

    And you Have the Truth!

    So the burden of prove is on you little Man.

    Jesus did not Run and hide!

    He told the world "I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." -Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV)

    Look at your Faith!

    Brigham Young:

    "..no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith." (Journal of Discourses,Vol.7, p.289)

    Hmmm, Someone is lying!

  • funnrun:

    Your stalling.

    NO, but my former Congress man was Stalling. Actually Richard Stalling(s), but it's close enough for the likes of you. You won't get it anyway, just like you haven't with anything else.

  • funnrun:

    You're the One telling the World they have it All wrong!

    Kerry:

    I have never said any such thing. Your weird powers of interpretation wouldn't even get you into Wicca, let alone serious Christianity. But thanks for playing "Me no know how to readem, nor have me a clue."

  • Is that you truth? Word Games? Hiding?

    You sound like a dumb Parrot in the corner of the house, I bet i could get a better answer about the Address to

    "The Book of Mormon Museum of Artifacts" AND A good Referral to a Travel Agency to plan a Vacation to "All the Wonderful Ancient Cities from the BOM " from a foolish Parrot then I could ever hope to get from You!

  • funnrun:

    You sound like a dumb Parrot in the corner of the house,

    Kerry:

    SQUAWCK! Kerry wanna cracker! Kerry wanna cracker! SQWAUACK! SQUAWCK! Kerry wanna cracker! Kerry wanna cracker! SQWAUACK! SQUAWCK! Kerry wanna cracker! Kerry wanna cracker! SQWAUACK! SQUAWCK! Kerry wanna cracker! Kerry wanna cracker! SQWAUACK! SQUAWCK! Kerry wanna cracker! Kerry wanna cracker! SQWAUACK! SQUAWCK! Kerry wanna cracker! Kerry wanna cracker SQWAUACK! SQUAWCK Kerry wanna cracker Kerry wanna cracker!

  • Your silence about Jesus counter of Joe speaks volumes about just Who you really are! "I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." -Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV)

    Look at your Faith!

    Brigham Young:

    "..no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith." (Journal of Discourses,Vol.7, p.289)

    Hmmm, Someone is lying!

    (hint) the last name starts with the Letter Y

  • funnrun:

    Your silence about Jesus counter of Joe speaks volumes about just Who you really are!

    Kerry:

    Who I really are is not as obvious on first blush as variously proposed based upon the parameters of reality within which we find ourselves in this present moment. Due to fluctuations within the precincts of Inner galactic space (balls) and reading between the lines, even if it is the book of Douglas Hofstadter's magnum opus "Le Ton Beau de Marot" this particular identification is illegal!

  • Ya know, I just knew it would come to this.

    You're a rambling fool and a dead end.

    It's the same pattern with most Mormons. Challenge them long enough, and they run out of thing to say. You can never get past God's word, and it's sad to watch you try.

    I really do feel sorry for you.

  • funnrun:

    You're a rambling fool and a dead end.

    Kerry:

    No, please, wait. I can explain...... see, I really want to believe. Oh man you have been sent my way with all your wisdom, truth, sincere love, and willing spirit to share the wealth (er Gospel, sorry bout the slip matey, hee, hee). I know I need more faith. I know I lack knowledge, intelligence, I.Q.ness, and smarts. I was born stupider than heck, it ain't my fault man. Don't make me leave.... DON'T DO IT! DON'T! NO! NO!!!!!!! Mercy!

  • God' word is anti Mormon, not me.

    It's not my truth, not my wisdom, not my mercy, But It's the Lord's.

    Your self righteous and arrogant videos of lies go against the word of God. You prop up these Men as Prophets, YET you have nothing but false prophecy from them.

    One thing FOR SURE, You don't have 1 artifact, and NO referrals! ha ha ha !

    God is your Judge, not me.

  • funnrun:

    One thing FOR SURE, You don't have 1 artifact, and NO referrals! ha ha ha !

    Kerry:

    Aw shucks. Not one artifact ....... drats, double drats. I was told we almost found a third just the other day, now you come along, Mr. Science, and demolish the facts with facts. Crimany man, that must mean we are back to square one. I probably don't even have that. Woe is me.

    (um....... do you yet get that I am not taking you seriously at all? Your credibility is literally zero.)

  • funnrun:

    Hmmm, Someone is lying!(hint) the last name starts with the Letter Y.

    Kerry:

    HEY! Identification word games! Can I play? O.K., well lessee here now.... a "y", a "y", the guy said a "y". Um Can I have a "K" please? Now then that was easy, I got my "K", and I already possess a "Y" thanks to that moron for giving it away to me (hee, hee). I'm gonna find the criminal and become a HERO!!!! My mom will be SOOOOOOO proud of her baby! Lessee, Y and K has to equal YOUNG KOOK! I WIN! I WIN!

  • Little Man

    You are running again!

    Come out from behind the BOM.

    Running from the truth of the Lord is only  going to lead you to the Dead End of Mormonism.

    Address & Referral Please!

  • funnrun:

    Little Man

    You are running again!

    Kerry:

    (huffin and a puffin)..... yeah man! I have gotten to where I can run 5 miles! Woo hoo! I'm gettin in shape for those thar Olympics.

  • funnrun:

    Come out from behind the BOM.

    Kerry:

    Aw come on. You CHEATED! How didja know I was hiding there? I carefully sneaked and was really, really quiet too.

  • Playing games is the Mormon way!

    I chose to seek truth, not play games with faith & God as you do.

    Please tell all the You Tubers where you are Hiding all the Artifacts? Little Man!

    The Smithsonian Institution issued an official statement in 1996 and again in 1998 that it considered the Book of Mormon to be "a religious document and not a scientific guide", that it "has found no archaeological evidence to support [the book's] claims.

    Hmmm, Someone is lying!

  • Well lessee now...... um, do any of you know my great aunt Maude twice removed? She had a black lab who loved to hide things. The hound somehow got into the museum late one night and ran off with all the artifacts. Bad dog! Bad dog! We tracked his trail for a few miles but lost it somewhere near Jackson Hole, Wyoming. I suspect were we to gather a horde of us and start ta diggin we might find sumthun! What? You think it may take a while? no problem, my aunt LOVES to cook! Woo hoo! FOODFIGHT!!!!!

  • funnrun:

    Playing games is the Mormon way!

    Kerry:

    Oh hey! I *LOVE* Chess. Actually Parchesi is O.K., but Scrabble also rocks! Checkers is fine also. We Mormons LOVE games! Thanks for noticing.....

  • funnrun:

    The Smithsonian Institution issued an official statement in 1996 and again in 1998 that it considered the Book of Mormon to be "a religious document and not a scientific guide", that it "has found no archaeological evidence to support [the book's] claims.

    Kerry:

    NOT a scientific document? WHAT?!? That is utter BLASPHEMY (hee hee, just kiddin man, I was just usin that famous dictum as sorta you know joke... hee, hee). They say it is a religious document huh? I couldn't a guessed.

  • Address & hours Please?

  • Where did you Go??

    Did you Run & Hide?

    I'm sorry if I was to hard on you!

    I just want an address to "Book of Mormon Museum of Artifacts"

    No need to hide behind the BOM.

  • Hello!

    are you hiding behind your Videos?

  • Hello!

    Little Man?

    Where did you Go?

    no need to hide! I just want an address!

  • Now please don't get Mad & all upset at Me for asking 2 very simple and easy Question, that ANY "Truth Warrior" For The BOM, should have No problem answering!

    And Please don't Run and Hide behind One of your Multi-Million Dollar temples ether!

    YOU do have a Museum that house all the Artifact don't you?

    AND I'm Sure the ALL the Travel Agency offer MANY DIFFERENT BOM Sight Seeing Packages! So Could you refer me to a couple of those Travel Agency?

    Please don't run from Me! I wont hurt You!

  • funnrun

    And Please don't Run and Hide behind One of your Multi-Million Dollar temples ether!

    Kerry

    Aw come on man! Can't I pretty please? It's suppose to be our last place of refuge.... I just gotta go there, I gotta I tells ya!

  • funnrun

    AND I'm Sure the ALL the Travel Agency offer MANY DIFFERENT BOM Sight Seeing Packages! So Could you refer me to a couple of those Travel Agency?

    Kerry

    Oh! Well crimany man, why didnja asks me earlier? *I* run the travel agency bro! We have several different and very affordable packages just for you. Our first and best priced begins in Salt Lake City where we fly down to Guatemala (private leer jet, yer gonna LOVE IT MAN!) I need a 50% downpayment of a mere $43,678.23 THANK YOU!

  • There you Are!

    I'm sorry if I caused you to Run and hide!

    I just wanted the address to the "Book of Mormon Museum of Artifacts" and hours of operation.

    If your going be a "Truth Warrior" For The BOM, You need to show much more Courage!

    Now Please provide me with the address to the "Book of Mormon Museum of Artifacts".

    also I need to know where I can get info on a "Sight Seeing" trip to all the Wonderful Ancient Cities & Ruins in the BOM.

    Is there a Vacation Package from a Travel Agency?

  • funnrun

    There you Are!

    I'm sorry if I caused you to Run and hide!

    Kerry

    Oh why yes! Dude you like so totally scared me right outta my boots. Crimany it tok me almost weeks and weeks ta find em! (shivers!)

  • You love to shake that stubble little finger at your Camera! You have the TRUTH, Yet where is your Truth?

    What? Some Mormon think tank?

    That is your truth?

    Please don't run and hide again, answer the Question please! Address Please? Agency Referral Please?

    Why am I still waiting?

  • I dunno. That's what we are asking. WHY *are* you still waiting? All the information you need is at the Neal A. Maxwell Institute. That's easier than falling off a log.

  • Dude,just because Masson is making jars again, doesn't mean you gotta shove your head in one.

  • BYP,

    I am amazed you knew right away that birostrisphile had a hidden devious agenda. I tried to communicate with him to go over it and ALL he wanted me to do was agree with ANTImormon people off site. STRANGE!

  • BOM = Lies

  • BofM = Challenge!

  • BoM = greater than 60% plagiarized from the Bible, even the transcription errors, mistranslations, and non-original commentary.

  • Yawn. Royal Skousen's world class work destroys this tissue of absurdity. Sorry to deflate yer bubble of excitement over thinking you can refute the powerful Book of Mormon.

  • No Sorry!!

    We need more than excuses from you, like maybe Archaeological Evidence or DNA Evidence! You have more excuses than Artifacts Mister. You have more Denial than DNA. You have more Lies than Grave Yards. More Deception than Weapons!

    YOU DO HAVE tons of Blind faith in a Fake book and in a false prophet for sure!

    You can try to block the truth all you want, but you need to repent and drop to your knees and DENOUNCE the Book of Mormon and Abraham. It's Proven Lie from the Devil himself.

  • LOL! Wowie..... well lessee, I will give you 5 stars for sheer enthusiasm..... misplaced though it is.

  • Is there anyway to download this video in complete form?

  • Yes there is, but not on this site. Just google download youtube videos and it will take you to a site where you can do it.

    Let me know if it works for you.

  • Thank you

  • You guys are great! Shalom

  • And Mike Rhodes...... how does one say enough good about his work in the Book of Abraham arena? I LOVE his new translation.

  • To say good about Mike Rhodes work, one must ignore logic and reasoned argument. His work is full of straw-man arguments and circular reasoning.  He attacks minor points while ignoring major issues.

    Basically his work only appeals to believers who want to cling to their cherished beliefs, regardless of what the truth is.

  • You are dreaming.

  • Yes, dreaming of the day when Mormons will actually care about TRUTH as much as they claim they do.

  • I am too. That's true. Not a bad dream to have.

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