This really pisses me off. LJB would have NEVER had the opportunity to sign the Civil Rights Bill if it were not for the efforts of MLK and God knows how many faceless people - of all ethnic background - who brought the fight of the Civil Rights movement to the foreground.
How dare she?? I'm a Democrat and I would never vote for her . . . not after this.
@DRush76 No need to be ignorant. Without Lyndon Johnson, Civil Rights legislation would never have been passed. He was the reason it was passed in 1957 as Senate Majority Leader and it was he who was able to get lawmakers to vote in favor in 1964 and 1965. She in no way downplayed MLK's role, she simply stated that you cannot deny the fact that Lyndon Johnson brought his dream to life through his legislative prowess.
What Hillary failed to realize is that the idea of equality would have never come about and her precious LBJ would have never signed of on the civil rights act if Dr. King and the great men and women among him fought the many fights warranted...
Yeah! I'm a Dem....now look at the Fing mess in Washington...We voted a loser idiot! The real candidate with experience Hillary. The Dem primaries were stolen by Barry Soetoro AKA Obama..yeah, I laugh at the fools who voted for that phony! We are losing jobs-health care is not a reform, it is to make more money for the crooks...WHAT A MISTAKE. Oh well we did electe our 1st Blk prez?? Or did we???
All Civil Rights bills were passed by Congress, not by any Presidents. They were always passed by Republicans. The 1964 bill was passed by 82% Republicans and only 60% of democrats in the Senate. All Civil Rights bills including the 1964 bill from Kennedy were written by Republicans. The 1964 bill was a watered down copy from the 1875 bill passed by Republicans that Democrats overturned after 1888.
The democratic party is the party of slavery, segregation and White Supremacy. Totalitarians.
The 1957 Civil Rights Act 1) allowed the justice department to investigate claims of civil rights violations, 2) allowed charges to be brought against those suspected of violating civil rights, and 3) (the reason this Act was basically useless) it allowed for state courts (and state court selected juries) to prosecute these cases. This Act did propel political incrementalism and LBJ played a MAJOR role in its passage. Concerning MLK, MLK and LBJ were working differnt sides of the same street.
Clinton's statement was one that seemed to diminish the role of the true heroes of Civil Rights. In my opinion, LBJ's stroke of the pen was admirable but I do not believe he shared the same passion as the people doing the ground work. LBJ and Lincoln are a like in that neither were exactly champions of anything other than striking a balance to end divisions. You sound like a very interesting person. I would love hear more of what you have to say about it if you can refrain from name calling.
Well I am not black and I did not say I thought JFK did it. LBJ signed it into law. MLK and others are the people that went to jail, took beatings.. I don't understand how you can put words in my mouth and then claim that I am ignorant. JFK was a cheerleader for civil rights but was sadly killed before he could ever do anything. LBJ signed civil rights act of 1964 into law but RFK continued the passion for peace between the races until he was sadly killed as well.
LBJ and MLK were working different sides of the same street. Different angles on the same issue. LBJ gave FEDERAL support and MLK gave GRASS ROOTS support for the civil rights issue.
LBJ was a great president. MLK was a great social activist. Civil rights activism could not be realized without federal support. MLK's dream became a reality when LBJ supported it. Hillary said nothing wrong. She made a factual statement.
Hillary is saying that the president is in the position to enact legislation which can make dreams such as MLK's come true. She is correct- it's just a statement of fact.
ouch...Hillary Clinton...that hurts....this is a classic example of misspeaking,no wonder black voters were turned off.She later apologised and rephrased those comments to tell us what she really meant
And she claims Obama is the one playing the race card!! She's such a bitch! Is she trying to say that She would be the type to sign civil rights over Obama?
Was the civil rights a bottom-up or top-down movement? Obama says bottom-up (mass movement demanded the action), Clinton says top-down (authoritarian legislation). There is a case for both, implicating the idea that it was mutually productive. Personally I think Hillary is retarded for trying to shift credit away from the people that were getting beat, fire-hosed, and arrested.
"Direct action is not a substitute for work in the courts and the halls of government. Bringing about passage of a new and broad law by a city council, state legislature, or the Congress, or pleading cases before the courts of the land, does not eliminate the necessity for bringing about the mass dramatization of injustice in front of a city hall.
Indeed, direct action and legal action complement one another. When skillfully employed, each becomes more effective."
Of course her comment is not meant to diminish the life and death of MLK...she is COVERING HER ASS! She wouldnt want to look contradicting now...would she? Since she has always mocked Obama for his hope message, what CAN she say on the day that they honor the dreamer MLK? "Oh..I know, I'll say the dream wasnt realized until the president took over."
What about the bus boycotts and the sit-ins and all of the people that died to show that freedom was more important to them than life in an oppressive society? It didn't start there? Come on Billary! LBJ called JFK an SOB after he was assassinated. He wasn't doing what he thought was right. He was doing what he had to do given the state of the nation and the pressures that the civil rights movement required of him.
I am a mama for obama all the way. But Hilary said the truth. It really did have to pass through & only a president could do it. Aren't we sick and tired of living under a dead man's dreams. My moma had dreams but she died when she was 56 in 2002. I don't live for her dreams & certainly not for MLK's. I have my own & so does my child. And more importantly, I deal with REALITY everyday. & MLK,LBJ are not the only 1's. What about Malcolm X, Huey Newton, Angela Davis, Ashata Shakur, etc.?
I would point to the fact that that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the president before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became a real in peoples lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it, and actually got it accomplished.
False Hopes. Dr. King standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial looking out over the magnificent crowd, the reflecting pool, the Washington Monument, sorry guys, false hopes, the dream will die, it can't be done, false hope, we don't need leaders who tell us what we can't do, we need leaders to tell us what we can do and inspire us.
The Obama campaign wanted race to be an issue, maybe not Obama himself but clearly when Blacks have withstood all we have in the past few years(Katrina,JENA,IMUS)any hint of a white person talking "crazy" is enough to turn us off! I think here it was unfortunate, but I certainly understand how people in SC felt given the way it was covered and funneled!
Lets be honest.........the Obama campaign and the media saw an opportunity to jump on what they looked at as a salacious story! They did just that, rather effectively! Each charge of so-called "racist" remarks that the Clinton campaign made was being pushed and fed to the media daily right before the SC primary.
give me a break.......this was so not a controversial comment! any person that knows anything about the Civil Rights movement and the 1960's in America knows that it was MLK's visionary leadership and Johnson's often times dirty manipulation of other politician's coupled with his supremely effective grasp of the United States Senate as an institution that finally got much of the substantive civil rights requests into law! So folks, bullshit about this being a racist remark!
You're absolutely correct. Clinton's statements are valid. Even if you don't agree with them, calling them racist is absurd. I feel that if Obama really didn't want race to be an issue he'd made a statement clearing Clinton of these baseless accusations.
Amazing. Do you know what the poll results of SC were in Nov of 2007 between candidates? She enjoyed a 10 point lead among AA. However, after the attacks on Obama, the shift in "character", misquotes...the group that was solidly behind the Clintons saw the light. Veiled inuendos, condescending remarks and playing identity politics made it abundantly what Billary was all about. That was the story and I'm glad they reported it.
I really don't understand her point in reference to the campaign.
Both candidates are running for president that will have the power to pass the legislation. If shes trying to characterize Obama as an MLK/JFK, he's in a better position to inspire and pass the legislation than LBJ-like candidate.
Who was more influential in making that dream come to pass? A president who made so much a part of his campaign and with the help of civil rights workers made it a central issue. Or the Vice president who took over a slain president, was forced after bloody Sunday to sign the Bill. If thinking concretely, yes the bill would not have been passed if didn't sign, thinking abstractly...the will and the effort of passed that bill.
She's completely right. She doesn't dismiss that MLK was an important factor in fuelling black nationalism, but his Capitol Hill "I have a dream speech" was almost completely insignificant in influencing any effective legislation. It WAS Johnson's 1964 Act that changed things up. People need to get of Hillary's back.
What we can do? Um, since last I heard, America was free, that statement was by far, too me anyways, quite a ignorant one. Laws are one thing, but every race should have the same freedoms under the USA constitution. Maybe I misunderstood this video, if I did, I apologize.
of course he's going to say that u stupid idiot someone's always trying to bring the black man down o this country cant be refoormed like it needs to be!!!
so basically what she saying is martin luther king stole is damn dream from the president....she's saying that his dream wouln't exist or wouldn't have been set in motion if it wasn't for the president
First off are you educated? Have you any American History education? What she is saying is Lyndon B. Johnson the President of the United States in 1964 made MLK "I have a Dream" a reality. There was more to this interview then him asking her that question. Think before you comment.
Democrats and the liberal media will never tell you that the reason the Civil Rights bill passed is because of REPUBLICAN lawmakers who cast the deciding votes for it. SOUTHERN WHITE DEMOCRATS, such as AL GORE'S FATHER voted against it.(Look it up know-it-all libs) Yeah, the GOP is just soooo racist and against blacks.
Gore was one of only three Democratic senators from the eleven former Confederate states who did not sign the 1956 Southern Manifesto opposing integration, the other two being Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson (who was not asked to sign) and Gore's fellow Tennesseean Estes Kefauver, who refused to sign. South Carolina Senator J. Strom Thurmond tried to get Gore to sign the Southern Manifesto, but was told "Hell no" by Gore.
Gore could not, however, be regarded as an out-and-out integrationist, having voted against some major civil rights legislation including the Civil Rights Act of 1964. (Gore later claimed that the 1964 vote was his biggest mistake.)
He did support the Voting Rights Act of 1965. He had easily won renomination in 1958 over former governor of Tennessee Jim Nance McCord, which at that point was still tantamount to election (because of the traditional weakness of the Republican party in the post-Reconstruction South);
she is so wrong at the time do you think that this country was ready to have a black person in any place of power so it is kind of a non issu,dont ya thnk.
I can't stand Clinton but she just pointed out historical truth: MLK and LBJ needed each other to fundamentally change our country. MLK created the political climate to allow LBJ to unleash his mastery of congressional politics.
If we applied the same bizarre logic used to attack Clinton, then we'd consider the fact Lincon--a white man--signed the Emancipation Proclamation to be somehow racist b/c it "demeans" the sacrifices of blacks who bore the brunt of the struggle for freedom.
Perhaps, MLK was a good Republican. In many ways it would have been nice if his goals were achieved without the civil rights act of 1964. I think that while the East has had integration we now need integration in the West. Indian Tribes need to be integrated into states as counties, by states negotiating treaties with Native Americans, these counties need to allow non-aboriginal people to vote, purchase private land, and hiring practises of tribes included in the civil rights act 1964.
Bigoted? You're getting me wrong if you think I'm a bigot. My comment, in truth, had little to do with the video, and more to do with the fact that she's a horrible excuse for a Democrat and a person. However, some of it came from that she was downplaying MLK's role in the civil rights movement, making it seem as though Lyndon Johnson or anyone else would have done everything even if MLK, Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, et al. hadn't brought the problem to light.
I'm Declaring in all honest conviction, Democrats are still the Party of the Confederacy, the KKK, and Eugenicist Genocide. They will distort any issue and cast doubt on anything positive to subvert their oppressive ideology through the media fed ignorance which they have already impressed on the "masses". ( I put 'masses' in quotations here for those of us who still consider ourselves "People".)
Listen folks Dr MLK's message was for freedom and liberty of all people no matter what colour or religion and the only candidate who is pushing this message is Ron Paul. Wake up people you are crazy if you think Obama or Clinton will not bring the same old tired government line you have had for 20+ years. Look at their voting records and what they really stand for. Obama and Clinton are for Big Government and Big Business. Dr Ron Paul is for freedom. watch?v=DggGZqYebrQ
Big business is not bad, big government is. Big business is a sign of successful free enterprise. Big government is a sign of oppressive dictatorship. Democracy is dangerous if not kept uncorrupted by rule of law Republicanism. The founders designed the Constitution to provide Republican protection. (Article 4 Section 4)
Black or White the comments were ill-advised, "the dream will die" (MLK dedicated and gave his life); these comments show the lack of sophistication Hillary posses.
She's lying here. The president before Kennedy, Eisenhower, with help from Everitt Dirksen, wrote those bills and Kennedy voted 'No'. Johnson had little to do with them and took credit from Eisenhower and Dirksen. Dirksen broke the democrat filibuster in Congress, and Johnson could not veto like the Democrat President Johnson of 1865 who vetoed 19 Civil rights bills. Clinton is LYING.
BO compares himself 2 MLK & therefor OPENED this dialogue
Powerful Goals of any leader have 2 eventually make their way thru the LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. EVEN DrKing's!
HC feels she's more prepared for the AssKicking job of dealin w/ the Bullshit DC roadblocks & GOP
There r days of discussion previous 2 this It takes more than 1 video 2 fully understand the essence.But its easier 2 take 1 sentence out of context & twist it 2 sound like something horrible
Dr. King KNEW he needed political leaders to help realize his vision which is WHY he used his commanding oratory skills to raise an awareness, then to educate, then to encourage people to VOTE. Stop listening to these talking heads and do your homework. Look up the voting records, they're quite easy to find.
If democrats start voting republican for reasons they can't even verbalize (their totally unsupported and illogical hatred for Ms. Clinton) than there truly isn't any hope for this country.
Don't dare call yourself a democrat at all. It's an insult to the rest of us.
What would Martin Luther King say about the philanderer Jesse Jackson who admits that he would spit in the food of white people as he worked at a fast food restaurant? Does Al Sharpton represent the black community or promote himself? What is it that Oprah Winfrey really likes about Barack Obama?
Even health Care which is Hillary's Issue, Obama has a better plan. She plans on mandating adults to pay insurance companies. Spending 100 billion dollars when the USA has an almost 2 trillion dollar deficit, Obama plan will cover everybody in need and cost only 50 billion. Also he has no mandates which would line the pockets of insurance companies and federal lobbyist that bank role Hillary's campaign.
I had to reslisten to it about 20 times... but I didn't hear any racist remarks?!?!?!
Can someone help me?!
I don't see anything racist about this. She said it took a LBJ to get to legislation to finally pass a law...indicating the importance of presidency and how people need to work together.
This is so typical way of America, certain 'groups' always try to add race to something that isn't there.
I'm so sick of this shit. If you want respect, earn it.
The issue is her claiming that a president had more to do with civil rights than Martin Luther King, Jr. A lot of people believe that MLK was the one who forced the issue of civil rights so far into the mainstream that President Johnson had not alternative but to support it. Clinton believes that change would have never happened if it wasn't for President Johnson. Some people take issue to that since it seemingly weakens all that MLK fought for.
LBJ was a socialist idiot. (Trillions on the War of Poverty and ZERO change in the poverty rate. Typical results for a government run effort I suppose.) And, the congress passed the law, not LBJ. And, furthermore, Republicans voted for it in larger numbers and percentages in both houses than did Democrats (or should I say "Dixiecrats"). Whatever.
Without the Leadership Of the Man of GOD, Dr.Martin L. King,Jr. There would not have been any "Civil Rights Bill" to even SIGN, Hillary.... Duh! So stop trying to make more out of a White man(Lyndon Johnson)who was rightful in just doing his job;over the Prophetic call of the Real Leader (Dr.King)who carried out the WILL of GOD ALMIGHTY.
I would and I would point to the fact that Dr. KING's DREAM BEGAN to be realized WHEN President Lyndon JOHNSON PASSED the CIVIL RIGHTS act of 1964. When HE WAS ABLE TO GET through Congress SOMETHING that President KENNEDY WAS HOPEFUL to do, PRESIDENT BEFORE HAD NOT even TRIED, BUT IT TOOK A PRESIDENT (LBJ) TO GET IT DONE. That DREAM BECAME A REALITY, the power of that dream became real in people's lives, BECAUSE we had a PRESIDENT (LBJ) who SAID we are going TO DO IT AND actually GOT IT DONE.
KING's DREAM BEGAN WHEN JOHNSON PASSED CIVIL RIGHTS. HE WAS ABLE TO GET SOMETHING KENNEDY WAS HOPEFUL, PRESIDENT BEFORE HAD NOT TRIED, BUT IT TOOK A PRESIDENT (LBJ) TO GET IT DONE. DREAM BECAME A REALITY, BECAUSE PRESIDENT (LBJ) SAID TO DO IT AND GOT IT DONE.
Face it, the NAACP is nothing but a socialist organization from top to bottom. Nowhere in the constitution does it say that one race could have special advantage over another.
In fact our founding fathers said all men are created equal with certain God given rights.
Civil rights is just another way to raid the treasury by creating oversight, and pork for the powers that be.
Our founding fathers added an "except" in that all men are created equal clause. Go back and read it. Black people were not considered full citizens until ammendments were made to the constitution. This country was founded on the backs of racism -
Affirmative action needs to end. Nowhere in the constitution does it say any group of people should have an advantage over another group.
Oh and another thing, some of you need to stop coveting what white men have, and communally put yourself to work via hard work and dedication, not special advantage!
Wrong..angelina247 the Constitution was anti slavery, and no such clause was written in the Declaration of Independence. You are letting someone else tell you what is written instead of reading it yourself.
The true racists are the one going around pointing out that MLK was black and LBJ and JFK were white. That is a separation of race. A true non-racist would view them all as simply people fighting for equal rights!
not saying that lbj was necessarily a proper leader in terms of v.n. but he listened when it came to civil rights. btw, i haven't decided between hill and oba.
those saying hillary took away from mlk didn't pay attention. she said mlk's dream inspired people to make lbj realize the need for change; that lbj listened to the people and made it real by placing it in law where civil rights must be enforced. it's like the country saying, "we want out of iraq," but nothing happens til a pres says, "ok, the people are right, let's bring the troops home." a dream that speaks to millions makes a proper leader listen and implement change.
LBJ also realized the dream of a wasteful, pointless war in SouthEast Asia which took the lives of 50,000 young men and women. With the country tipping with a showdown with Iran, do you want another LBJ in office?
It was American and British interests that founded and helped create Nazism and communism. Look it up for yourself.
Democracies like ours, and what we are spreading around the world, always lead to dictatorships. Once the people figure out they can raid the treasury, then the politicians they elect, raise up companies to feed off the pork the people create, and it only gets worse! Hitler, Stalin, etc.
He could have watered down the bill to appease southern white voters. Instead, he lobbied tirelessly on behalf of the bill, essentially turning his back on said voters. Did he do it for political gain or because he believed in equal rights? I can't say for sure, but I can say that had he not worked hard to convince doubt filled representatives to support equal rights, it would have taken a lot longer to achieve. It sounds to me like dissenters would prefer that LBJ be given no credit at all.
While I think Hillary's words were not well thought out, I have always supported the Clinton's. I don't want these two camps to implode and allow the Republicans to sneak in and win this thing. Why can't we have Hillary and Barack on the Democratic ticket in the general election??
MLK Jr, speech move alot of people and to dare say that this speech meant nothing is immoral. to say that a president did this is also wrong. shame on you hillary.
He can instill that 'fierce urgency of now' into every American. He can make Washington realize that cost of not progressing far outweighs the cost of losing petty partisan battles. Man or woman, black or white, Republican or Democrat, Obama is the candidate for Americans who want progress and want it yesterday.
And despite hillary's cynical criticism, that struggle is what Barack Obama represents in this election. He, perhaps more than any presidential candidate in our nation's history, has the power to change hearts and minds. He has the power to transform the tangled web of self-interest and pettiness that has always defined American politics into one uniform pool of progress.
The primary and most important part of the civil rights movement was the ideological battle to change people's hearts and minds. Dr. King, not President Johnson, was on the front line of that most difficult battle.
Wrong comment at the wrong time. Huge mistake from Hillary. She basically blasphemed the most revered figure of the civil rights movement by equating him and his struggle (and perhaps belittling in comparison) to LBJ and his signature on a piece of legislation. The civil rights act was important legislation but it is only just that: legislation.
I love Obama.... but, at the end of the day he is just another politician! 'Do whatever you have to do to get elected' mentality. She played the gender card by crying, and now he plays the race card to get back at her. We all know Hilary is not racist, I don't like her but come on - This is getting goofy now!
Hillary was right, it took a president to pass civil rights bills that made MLK's dream a reality! MLK was an iconic figure in world history but he wasn't a president. What's wrong with Hillary's speech?
there nothing wrong with her speech at all but if there wasn't a leader at the time pushing them to make things equal the LBJ would have done what the rest of white amarica was doing at that time and thats was ignore the minority people. MLK brought the fight to them and LBJ made it happen and she is down playing what MLK brought to the table thats all im saying!
mick: Spin? look at the damn video! She credits LBJ for civil rights legislation. That is doing versus like Obama or King only hopeful talk. To hell with the disgraceful dishonest clintons. I'll vote for a damn republican before I allow them back in the Oval Office!
I would also like to add that if it where not for MLK, there would have not been such a strong mandate, or push towards civil liberties. Johnson would have only acted upon issues where there was demand.
Hillary Clinton is not racist, but her statement took away credit from what Martin Luther King Jr. accomplished. People that admire MLK, and are considering Hillary Clinton as their candidate must think long and hard about her. It is clear that she is a very different person than what the popular Democratic base believes she is.
hillary can claim anything she & her disgraceful husband choose but the interview is available to the world. "Dr Kings words were good but it took Pres Johnson to make the talk a reality." It is not just African Americans pissed by her interpretation of civil rights history. They believe like plantation slave owners, that Blacks are more loyal to their masters than themselves or leaders like Tubman or OBAMA! No to clinton politics & lets boycott bob johnson for his remarks!
So is Hillary comparing Obama to MLK , and her self to LBJ through this statement? Is this a direct attack against Obama's camp? If it is.... its a crazy way to show the American public that she can get things done!! SOMEONE PLZ CLARIFY THIS FOR ME.
"and actually got it done" those last few words is where she messed up, she made it seem as if all Dr. King did was bring the thought up, Dr. King went through ALOT, a hell of ALOT to get his dream spread out all over, he didnt just speak words, he also put action behind them, and she should of also mentioned that
mando0286, not only are you evil but you're an embarassement to black folk. I suppose you voted for Al Sharpton back in the '80s, too, right? Figured as much.
Being african american, i am with the prez. of BET ... if the Obama camp thinks intelligent blacks will take this out of context and make a big deal out of it, their sadly mistaking. It just proves to me that Obama and lesser eductated blacks are grasping at straws. Nothing more, nothing less. If THIS offended you, you really shouldn't be voting anyway.
I totally agree with 1koolkittykat in the sense that Clinton was not trying to insult MLK, but as an African American I must say her comments were insulting regardless because if LBJ was a "caring" president as she stated, it wouldn't have taken him so freaking long to respond. The people had to force him into a response, which is cowardly. So, giving him any credit is ridiculous in my opinion
LBJ was president in a very turbulent time. I recently watched a History Channel or PBS thing on him. He really wanted to do a lot more for civil rights but had a lot of high people against him. He did what he could and did not seek re-election. I don't like Hilary AT ALL, however she was trying to make a presidential point and left off the part that MLK Jr., and the civil rights movement were the single most contributing factor of Johnson signing the bill.
There are many heroes in the "dream" of realizing civil rights. If Lyndon Johnson were an African American people would not be using this story for their own personal spin.
Even though I despise Hillary. This is much ado about nothing. She wasn't insulting MLK, she is just saying that a President had to act to accomplish that dream.
This is being blown out of proportion. What she appears to be saying is that this country needs a president who will listen to and act on behalf of the people and make their dreams a reality, whether it's civil rights or whatever. She's simply implying that she can be the next LBJ - a president who takes action on behalf of the people. It's just "elect me" rhetoric, not an attempt to undermine MLK.
Those of you who are saying that Hillary Clinton is stealing credit from MLK and giving it all to LBJ are missing the point. I do not hear nor infer this to be an attack on Obama since I do not see him as being timid when it comes to civil rights issues. I also do not see this as an attack on MLK as she specifically mentions it being his "dream." LBJ's actions were just as necessary to further the civil rights act as MLK's actions were necessary in order to bring them to fruition.
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LBJ did nothing but react to a massive people, who have every right to protest a government which does not protect their liberty. LBJ did nothing but save his own skin. People like LBJ, Lincoln, and apparently Hilary, could care less about our liberty.
Hilary is pathetic in her undermining of MLK heroic leadership. Governments are designed to keep things the way the are, and it is amazing that a simple unwealthy man like MLK can shake the world. LBJ is the one to credit? Politicans are NEVER the ones to credit for the improvement of civil rights.
And one other thing I'd like to add... could we get a show of hands on how many Republicans are responding to this video? I have my suspicions that we're being sabatoged here. :-) Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Thank you so much for your post. As a white woman with a black best friend, I am incensed by all this mainstream media garbage. No one has worked harder for the civil rights movement than Bill & Hillary. The media is shoving this down people's throats, soundbite by soundbite. People, research everything for yourself. THINK for yourselves. All the media wants are their ratings. They don't care anything about substative issues, or you for that matter.
I have no doubt that she has the greatest respect for Dr. King, and I'm sure Mrs. Clinton did not intend to belittle King's accomplishments. However, even assuming that's the case, her remarks send a message that "the people don't matter; it's the ones in power who get things done." And that is a bad, a VERY bad message to send.
Clinton continues to be a robot who spews random statements. Occasionally she regurgitates poorly. I would like to see more crying. That's what I want in a president.
It's interesting how HILARY is the one who continues to bring up race, I think she's trying to paint Barrack Obama as the "Black" candidate instead of the racially neutral guy that he is. It's sad really. This clip just shows me her desparation and that she will do or say anything to achieve power for herself.
Okay...Where did she MENTION Obama??...She answered a question pertaining to what Obama said about Martin Luther King! If anything Obama is painting himself blacker than he is! He mentions Dr. King just about ANYWHERE he can! Why? Cause he was black! Cause he knows black people are fond of Dr. King! And he wants that black vote!!
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Typical mentality of the Al Sharpton's, Jesse Jackson's and, now, the MUSLIM, Osama ... making siemthing out of absolutely nothing. I get so sick of these idiots trying to play the race card at any given chance. I was on the fence between Osama and Hillary, but his "race card" shit has totally turned me off from him and proven he's nothing but another Al Sharpton who just happens to speak a little better and not quite so unattractive.
Hillary Clinton has completely lost her mind. If she wasn't backpeddling before she better do some push up and get ready....
WHAT!!!??? There would have never been anything for Lyndon B Johnson to do if Dr. King hadn't started the MOVEMENT. So it goes with Obama and his hope movement....
This is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous - and to Bill the only fairy tale is Hillary's campaign plan. She doesn't have one!
She is not saying anything about one man being better than another but that one needs the office of President to get things done. I thought that was pretty clear.
Dr. King didn't start the movement tho its easy to think that since he has the most recognizable name.
As for Mrs. Clinton, the president before LBJ didn't do anything because he happen to get shot. Bobby Kennedy worked hard to get his brother to pay attention to civil rights.
How can people glean from Hillary's comments that she is in any way demeaning Dr. King? All she is saying is that if LBJ hadn't passed the Civil Rights Act we would be in the same boat as we were! Absolute Dr. King's work inspired him to do it but as Hillary tries to get across - If your LEADERs don't embrace what is being taught and act on it the nation doesn't move forward!
If you know history, you will understand that LBJ was not really trusted by black people in the sixties. Him signing the Voting Rights Act was only viewed as an extension of John F. Kennedy's efforts. Many black people believed the JFK conspiricy theory and thought LBJ had something to do with JFK's assasination. (might sound crazy now - but it was true) So putting it in historical context and knowing Hiliary was a young adult during that time tells me she spoke off the cuff.
This comment of hers was despicable. To denigrate the role of such a great leader held in such high regard by all Americans and people of the world is beyond imagination.
She now has the gall to accuse the Obama campaign of 'twisting her words'. Truly shameful!
LBJ had MLK killed. The American dream was a presidential bill with Robert Kennedy AND Martin Luther King as Vice President. Imagine the wonderful world we might be experiencing had this dream come true.
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Oh yeah, let's get something else straight about the endless pity party of slavery. Only 2% of whites actually owned slaves, when slavery was legal. Even thousands of free blacks owned slaves, as did the Chinese, the Mexicans, and the American Indians.
So, I think slavery is a dead issue, given also that it was black Africans that captured and sold blacks to the arab and anglo slave traders.
This really pisses me off. LJB would have NEVER had the opportunity to sign the Civil Rights Bill if it were not for the efforts of MLK and God knows how many faceless people - of all ethnic background - who brought the fight of the Civil Rights movement to the foreground.
How dare she?? I'm a Democrat and I would never vote for her . . . not after this.
DRush76 7 months ago
@DRush76 No need to be ignorant. Without Lyndon Johnson, Civil Rights legislation would never have been passed. He was the reason it was passed in 1957 as Senate Majority Leader and it was he who was able to get lawmakers to vote in favor in 1964 and 1965. She in no way downplayed MLK's role, she simply stated that you cannot deny the fact that Lyndon Johnson brought his dream to life through his legislative prowess.
m2mgm 6 months ago
@eboninupe=FUCK YOU CLINTON SUPPORTER!
mr300ism 1 year ago
What Hillary failed to realize is that the idea of equality would have never come about and her precious LBJ would have never signed of on the civil rights act if Dr. King and the great men and women among him fought the many fights warranted...
MrChauncyClayton 1 year ago
major garret is an asshole.
jbond5150 1 year ago
Yeah! I'm a Dem....now look at the Fing mess in Washington...We voted a loser idiot! The real candidate with experience Hillary. The Dem primaries were stolen by Barry Soetoro AKA Obama..yeah, I laugh at the fools who voted for that phony! We are losing jobs-health care is not a reform, it is to make more money for the crooks...WHAT A MISTAKE. Oh well we did electe our 1st Blk prez?? Or did we???
steveforsane 2 years ago
@steveforsane=FUCK YOU WHITE SUPREMACIST!
mr300ism 1 year ago
Hillary is a demagogue, and a liar.
ReppaBlicken 2 years ago
All Civil Rights bills were passed by Congress, not by any Presidents. They were always passed by Republicans. The 1964 bill was passed by 82% Republicans and only 60% of democrats in the Senate. All Civil Rights bills including the 1964 bill from Kennedy were written by Republicans. The 1964 bill was a watered down copy from the 1875 bill passed by Republicans that Democrats overturned after 1888.
The democratic party is the party of slavery, segregation and White Supremacy. Totalitarians.
ReppaBlicken 2 years ago
he had to.there was social disobedience on the streets,but kennedy got the ball rolling
carlyw1982 2 years ago
The 1957 Civil Rights Act 1) allowed the justice department to investigate claims of civil rights violations, 2) allowed charges to be brought against those suspected of violating civil rights, and 3) (the reason this Act was basically useless) it allowed for state courts (and state court selected juries) to prosecute these cases. This Act did propel political incrementalism and LBJ played a MAJOR role in its passage. Concerning MLK, MLK and LBJ were working differnt sides of the same street.
joflo82 2 years ago
Do you people now Get your answer why the JFK casa still Close..or should we spell it out for you..USE YOUR HEAD !!!
TruthorDare21 3 years ago
Clinton's statement was one that seemed to diminish the role of the true heroes of Civil Rights. In my opinion, LBJ's stroke of the pen was admirable but I do not believe he shared the same passion as the people doing the ground work. LBJ and Lincoln are a like in that neither were exactly champions of anything other than striking a balance to end divisions. You sound like a very interesting person. I would love hear more of what you have to say about it if you can refrain from name calling.
loudgirl78 3 years ago
Well I am not black and I did not say I thought JFK did it. LBJ signed it into law. MLK and others are the people that went to jail, took beatings.. I don't understand how you can put words in my mouth and then claim that I am ignorant. JFK was a cheerleader for civil rights but was sadly killed before he could ever do anything. LBJ signed civil rights act of 1964 into law but RFK continued the passion for peace between the races until he was sadly killed as well.
loudgirl78 3 years ago
LBJ and MLK were working different sides of the same street. Different angles on the same issue. LBJ gave FEDERAL support and MLK gave GRASS ROOTS support for the civil rights issue.
LBJ was a great president. MLK was a great social activist. Civil rights activism could not be realized without federal support. MLK's dream became a reality when LBJ supported it. Hillary said nothing wrong. She made a factual statement.
joflo82 3 years ago 2
Yes, LBJ was a great president all right. He didn't resort to fear-mongering, and the Gulf of Tonkin incident just didn't happen.
finkster 3 years ago
Hillary is saying that the president is in the position to enact legislation which can make dreams such as MLK's come true. She is correct- it's just a statement of fact.
jordanthecat 3 years ago
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Hitlery Rotten Clinturd is a MESS!
She prefers a pantsuit over a dress
I've watched her lie I've watched her kill
All in the name of her hubby named Bill
She won't give up to save her face
She would rather the country divide it's race
STOP the madness and just CONCEDE!!
And let Obama take over the lead
chuckinla 3 years ago
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"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.
We shall neither fail nor falter; we shall not weaken or tire...give us the tools and we will finish the job."
Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, Feb 9, 1941
mkkjb20 3 years ago
ouch...Hillary Clinton...that hurts....this is a classic example of misspeaking,no wonder black voters were turned off.She later apologised and rephrased those comments to tell us what she really meant
newdayo 3 years ago
LBJ - Leader of Federal Civil Rights Legislation.
MLK - Leader of 1950s & 1960s Civil Rights movement.
MLK was a GREAT leader. He led a 1950s & 1960s civil rights movement that gained NATIONAL ATTENTION.
LBJ was great leader too. He led a 1950s & 1960s political strategy that became NATIONAL LAW.
MLK was a great CIVIL RIGHTS leader.
LBJ was a great CIVIL RIGHTS leader.
What Hillary means is MLK succeeded because LBJ was in Washington securing federal support.
She's right.
joflo82 3 years ago
LBJ was a criminal and a murderer. When the psychiatric reports are released on LBJ the world will know the whole truth.
kloopyklopp 3 years ago
And she claims Obama is the one playing the race card!! She's such a bitch! Is she trying to say that She would be the type to sign civil rights over Obama?
MLK!!!!!!!!
loudgirl78 3 years ago 3
haha.........
bbbm65 4 years ago
Was the civil rights a bottom-up or top-down movement? Obama says bottom-up (mass movement demanded the action), Clinton says top-down (authoritarian legislation). There is a case for both, implicating the idea that it was mutually productive. Personally I think Hillary is retarded for trying to shift credit away from the people that were getting beat, fire-hosed, and arrested.
clsmooth80 4 years ago 2
"Direct action is not a substitute for work in the courts and the halls of government. Bringing about passage of a new and broad law by a city council, state legislature, or the Congress, or pleading cases before the courts of the land, does not eliminate the necessity for bringing about the mass dramatization of injustice in front of a city hall.
Indeed, direct action and legal action complement one another. When skillfully employed, each becomes more effective."
Martin Luther King, Jr
blubastian 4 years ago
NO IDIOTS" HILLARY ADMIRES GREATLY AND RESPECTS
MLK. SHE IS ONLY STATING A FACT THAT President
Johnson help to mak the dream happen !
HILL WAS NOT EN ANY WAY SHAPE OR COLOR
DIMINISHING THE GRET WORK OF OUR MLK<
LIGHTEN UP !
mrgnh 4 years ago
mrgnh- Well said- ive just finished a book on LBJ and Hillary is completely right.
CULAVE 3 years ago
@CULAVE=FUCK YOU AND HILLARY!
mr300ism 1 year ago
Of course her comment is not meant to diminish the life and death of MLK...she is COVERING HER ASS! She wouldnt want to look contradicting now...would she? Since she has always mocked Obama for his hope message, what CAN she say on the day that they honor the dreamer MLK? "Oh..I know, I'll say the dream wasnt realized until the president took over."
Tatamulata3 3 years ago
How do you know she greatly respects MLK?
loudgirl78 3 years ago
What about the bus boycotts and the sit-ins and all of the people that died to show that freedom was more important to them than life in an oppressive society? It didn't start there? Come on Billary! LBJ called JFK an SOB after he was assassinated. He wasn't doing what he thought was right. He was doing what he had to do given the state of the nation and the pressures that the civil rights movement required of him.
wethepeople2050 4 years ago 3
I am a mama for obama all the way. But Hilary said the truth. It really did have to pass through & only a president could do it. Aren't we sick and tired of living under a dead man's dreams. My moma had dreams but she died when she was 56 in 2002. I don't live for her dreams & certainly not for MLK's. I have my own & so does my child. And more importantly, I deal with REALITY everyday. & MLK,LBJ are not the only 1's. What about Malcolm X, Huey Newton, Angela Davis, Ashata Shakur, etc.?
blackmissouri 4 years ago
OBAMA '08
Thesouthman 4 years ago
How else could MLK's dream be realized til it was passed through Congress?
Basically, she is downplaying the 10-15 years of fighting that MLK did to get to that point where a JFK or LBJ would pass a civil rights bill..
Both LBJ and JFK were instrumental in change but let's not forget that without the grass-roots civil rights leaders it doesnt get started..
Politicians never give you anything you dont FIGHT for !
maldonadojustin 4 years ago 3
Her response:
I would point to the fact that that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the president before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became a real in peoples lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it, and actually got it accomplished.
maldonadojustin 4 years ago
The Obama quote that the reporter referred to:
False Hopes. Dr. King standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial looking out over the magnificent crowd, the reflecting pool, the Washington Monument, sorry guys, false hopes, the dream will die, it can't be done, false hope, we don't need leaders who tell us what we can't do, we need leaders to tell us what we can do and inspire us.
maldonadojustin 4 years ago
The Obama campaign wanted race to be an issue, maybe not Obama himself but clearly when Blacks have withstood all we have in the past few years(Katrina,JENA,IMUS)any hint of a white person talking "crazy" is enough to turn us off! I think here it was unfortunate, but I certainly understand how people in SC felt given the way it was covered and funneled!
jchris723 4 years ago
Lets be honest.........the Obama campaign and the media saw an opportunity to jump on what they looked at as a salacious story! They did just that, rather effectively! Each charge of so-called "racist" remarks that the Clinton campaign made was being pushed and fed to the media daily right before the SC primary.
jchris723 4 years ago
@jchris723=KEEP SUCKING CLINTON'S BALLS! YOUR MOM IS LESBO BITCH!
mr300ism 1 year ago
give me a break.......this was so not a controversial comment! any person that knows anything about the Civil Rights movement and the 1960's in America knows that it was MLK's visionary leadership and Johnson's often times dirty manipulation of other politician's coupled with his supremely effective grasp of the United States Senate as an institution that finally got much of the substantive civil rights requests into law! So folks, bullshit about this being a racist remark!
jchris723 4 years ago
You're absolutely correct. Clinton's statements are valid. Even if you don't agree with them, calling them racist is absurd. I feel that if Obama really didn't want race to be an issue he'd made a statement clearing Clinton of these baseless accusations.
ace625 4 years ago
Johnson ?
oh yeah, the guy who killed JFK..
And she calls him great.. pathetic.
kevinz1985 4 years ago
Amazing. Do you know what the poll results of SC were in Nov of 2007 between candidates? She enjoyed a 10 point lead among AA. However, after the attacks on Obama, the shift in "character", misquotes...the group that was solidly behind the Clintons saw the light. Veiled inuendos, condescending remarks and playing identity politics made it abundantly what Billary was all about. That was the story and I'm glad they reported it.
bms4lifem3 4 years ago
I really don't understand her point in reference to the campaign.
Both candidates are running for president that will have the power to pass the legislation. If shes trying to characterize Obama as an MLK/JFK, he's in a better position to inspire and pass the legislation than LBJ-like candidate.
bms4lifem3 4 years ago 2
Notice this:
Who was more influential in making that dream come to pass? A president who made so much a part of his campaign and with the help of civil rights workers made it a central issue. Or the Vice president who took over a slain president, was forced after bloody Sunday to sign the Bill. If thinking concretely, yes the bill would not have been passed if didn't sign, thinking abstractly...the will and the effort of passed that bill.
JFK = Obama
LBJ = Hilary CLinton
Nixon= Mccain
bms4lifem3 4 years ago
She's completely right. She doesn't dismiss that MLK was an important factor in fuelling black nationalism, but his Capitol Hill "I have a dream speech" was almost completely insignificant in influencing any effective legislation. It WAS Johnson's 1964 Act that changed things up. People need to get of Hillary's back.
chocopopo 4 years ago
there's nothin wrong with what she said, it was pretty much right.
hammertlme 4 years ago
What we can do? Um, since last I heard, America was free, that statement was by far, too me anyways, quite a ignorant one. Laws are one thing, but every race should have the same freedoms under the USA constitution. Maybe I misunderstood this video, if I did, I apologize.
MastaCAK47 4 years ago
of course he's going to say that u stupid idiot someone's always trying to bring the black man down o this country cant be refoormed like it needs to be!!!
ruthiee30 4 years ago
After reading your comment I decided definitely NOT to vote for whoever you support
charliemaine01 4 years ago 3
so basically what she saying is martin luther king stole is damn dream from the president....she's saying that his dream wouln't exist or wouldn't have been set in motion if it wasn't for the president
lodiedodiee 4 years ago 2
First off are you educated? Have you any American History education? What she is saying is Lyndon B. Johnson the President of the United States in 1964 made MLK "I have a Dream" a reality. There was more to this interview then him asking her that question. Think before you comment.
randigrogan 4 years ago
Democrats and the liberal media will never tell you that the reason the Civil Rights bill passed is because of REPUBLICAN lawmakers who cast the deciding votes for it. SOUTHERN WHITE DEMOCRATS, such as AL GORE'S FATHER voted against it.(Look it up know-it-all libs) Yeah, the GOP is just soooo racist and against blacks.
aaaredskin 4 years ago
Gore was one of only three Democratic senators from the eleven former Confederate states who did not sign the 1956 Southern Manifesto opposing integration, the other two being Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson (who was not asked to sign) and Gore's fellow Tennesseean Estes Kefauver, who refused to sign. South Carolina Senator J. Strom Thurmond tried to get Gore to sign the Southern Manifesto, but was told "Hell no" by Gore.
murcuryvapor 4 years ago
Gore could not, however, be regarded as an out-and-out integrationist, having voted against some major civil rights legislation including the Civil Rights Act of 1964. (Gore later claimed that the 1964 vote was his biggest mistake.)
murcuryvapor 4 years ago
He did support the Voting Rights Act of 1965. He had easily won renomination in 1958 over former governor of Tennessee Jim Nance McCord, which at that point was still tantamount to election (because of the traditional weakness of the Republican party in the post-Reconstruction South);
murcuryvapor 4 years ago
It is all fals hope all leaders want to line there bank books
belkly 4 years ago
she is so wrong at the time do you think that this country was ready to have a black person in any place of power so it is kind of a non issu,dont ya thnk.
belkly 4 years ago
I can't stand Clinton but she just pointed out historical truth: MLK and LBJ needed each other to fundamentally change our country. MLK created the political climate to allow LBJ to unleash his mastery of congressional politics.
If we applied the same bizarre logic used to attack Clinton, then we'd consider the fact Lincon--a white man--signed the Emancipation Proclamation to be somehow racist b/c it "demeans" the sacrifices of blacks who bore the brunt of the struggle for freedom.
Jackstowne 4 years ago
Perhaps, MLK was a good Republican. In many ways it would have been nice if his goals were achieved without the civil rights act of 1964. I think that while the East has had integration we now need integration in the West. Indian Tribes need to be integrated into states as counties, by states negotiating treaties with Native Americans, these counties need to allow non-aboriginal people to vote, purchase private land, and hiring practises of tribes included in the civil rights act 1964.
Knoss 4 years ago
Summary: Hillary Clinton is a cunt.
spynae 4 years ago
God you're dumb as fuck. She's stating historical fact you bigoted fuck.
Jackstowne 4 years ago
Bigoted? You're getting me wrong if you think I'm a bigot. My comment, in truth, had little to do with the video, and more to do with the fact that she's a horrible excuse for a Democrat and a person. However, some of it came from that she was downplaying MLK's role in the civil rights movement, making it seem as though Lyndon Johnson or anyone else would have done everything even if MLK, Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, et al. hadn't brought the problem to light.
tl;dr, no u
spynae 4 years ago
god you're an asshole...go suck a dick
officehunk1202 4 years ago
Yes. Yes she is.
jfl440 4 years ago
You are a dumbass. Clinton has the most senator endorsement. Search it anywhere; its even on wikipedia.
mojojojoe69 4 years ago
RON PAUL 2008!
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Loafy1212 4 years ago
In 1964 Hillary Clinton was a Goldwater Girl.
Ron Paul '08
Knoss 4 years ago
I'm Declaring in all honest conviction, Democrats are still the Party of the Confederacy, the KKK, and Eugenicist Genocide. They will distort any issue and cast doubt on anything positive to subvert their oppressive ideology through the media fed ignorance which they have already impressed on the "masses". ( I put 'masses' in quotations here for those of us who still consider ourselves "People".)
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
Listen folks Dr MLK's message was for freedom and liberty of all people no matter what colour or religion and the only candidate who is pushing this message is Ron Paul. Wake up people you are crazy if you think Obama or Clinton will not bring the same old tired government line you have had for 20+ years. Look at their voting records and what they really stand for. Obama and Clinton are for Big Government and Big Business. Dr Ron Paul is for freedom. watch?v=DggGZqYebrQ
sifromeire 4 years ago
Big business is not bad, big government is. Big business is a sign of successful free enterprise. Big government is a sign of oppressive dictatorship. Democracy is dangerous if not kept uncorrupted by rule of law Republicanism. The founders designed the Constitution to provide Republican protection. (Article 4 Section 4)
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
That is not true. If you listen to him carefully he is talking about the Negro people. His message has been distorted over the years.
MicChech1 4 years ago
Please listen to the end of this speach from MLK. watch?v=PbUtL_0vAJk
This is what I am refering to.
sifromeire 4 years ago
Black or White the comments were ill-advised, "the dream will die" (MLK dedicated and gave his life); these comments show the lack of sophistication Hillary posses.
labbeech 4 years ago
These comment show her dishonesty and racism. She is getting it from Bill.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
She's lying here. The president before Kennedy, Eisenhower, with help from Everitt Dirksen, wrote those bills and Kennedy voted 'No'. Johnson had little to do with them and took credit from Eisenhower and Dirksen. Dirksen broke the democrat filibuster in Congress, and Johnson could not veto like the Democrat President Johnson of 1865 who vetoed 19 Civil rights bills. Clinton is LYING.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
Hillary once asked whether Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a medical doctor.
BooBooLane 4 years ago
BO compares himself 2 MLK & therefor OPENED this dialogue
Powerful Goals of any leader have 2 eventually make their way thru the LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. EVEN DrKing's!
HC feels she's more prepared for the AssKicking job of dealin w/ the Bullshit DC roadblocks & GOP
There r days of discussion previous 2 this It takes more than 1 video 2 fully understand the essence.But its easier 2 take 1 sentence out of context & twist it 2 sound like something horrible
nativeskygirl 4 years ago
"Something push us always to do something"
Somebody make us change our mind.
Nobody give you freedom, you fight for it.
M L King make him take that decision.
goblai67 4 years ago
Dr. King KNEW he needed political leaders to help realize his vision which is WHY he used his commanding oratory skills to raise an awareness, then to educate, then to encourage people to VOTE. Stop listening to these talking heads and do your homework. Look up the voting records, they're quite easy to find.
nessabean 4 years ago
If democrats start voting republican for reasons they can't even verbalize (their totally unsupported and illogical hatred for Ms. Clinton) than there truly isn't any hope for this country.
Don't dare call yourself a democrat at all. It's an insult to the rest of us.
bitterswtmocha 4 years ago
I agree, we really don't deserve saving if we decide to screw ourselves over.
yuechan 4 years ago
What would Martin Luther King say about the philanderer Jesse Jackson who admits that he would spit in the food of white people as he worked at a fast food restaurant? Does Al Sharpton represent the black community or promote himself? What is it that Oprah Winfrey really likes about Barack Obama?
BigLeagueTV 4 years ago
Even health Care which is Hillary's Issue, Obama has a better plan. She plans on mandating adults to pay insurance companies. Spending 100 billion dollars when the USA has an almost 2 trillion dollar deficit, Obama plan will cover everybody in need and cost only 50 billion. Also he has no mandates which would line the pockets of insurance companies and federal lobbyist that bank role Hillary's campaign.
labbeech 4 years ago
I had to reslisten to it about 20 times... but I didn't hear any racist remarks?!?!?!
Can someone help me?!
I don't see anything racist about this. She said it took a LBJ to get to legislation to finally pass a law...indicating the importance of presidency and how people need to work together.
This is so typical way of America, certain 'groups' always try to add race to something that isn't there.
I'm so sick of this shit. If you want respect, earn it.
thechoosendude 4 years ago
THANK YOU!!! so true.
bitterswtmocha 4 years ago
The issue is her claiming that a president had more to do with civil rights than Martin Luther King, Jr. A lot of people believe that MLK was the one who forced the issue of civil rights so far into the mainstream that President Johnson had not alternative but to support it. Clinton believes that change would have never happened if it wasn't for President Johnson. Some people take issue to that since it seemingly weakens all that MLK fought for.
ben2550 4 years ago
LBJ was a socialist idiot. (Trillions on the War of Poverty and ZERO change in the poverty rate. Typical results for a government run effort I suppose.) And, the congress passed the law, not LBJ. And, furthermore, Republicans voted for it in larger numbers and percentages in both houses than did Democrats (or should I say "Dixiecrats"). Whatever.
History. Learn it.
VerbotenDingleberry 4 years ago
Without the Leadership Of the Man of GOD, Dr.Martin L. King,Jr. There would not have been any "Civil Rights Bill" to even SIGN, Hillary.... Duh! So stop trying to make more out of a White man(Lyndon Johnson)who was rightful in just doing his job;over the Prophetic call of the Real Leader (Dr.King)who carried out the WILL of GOD ALMIGHTY.
plainwain 4 years ago
I would and I would point to the fact that Dr. KING's DREAM BEGAN to be realized WHEN President Lyndon JOHNSON PASSED the CIVIL RIGHTS act of 1964. When HE WAS ABLE TO GET through Congress SOMETHING that President KENNEDY WAS HOPEFUL to do, PRESIDENT BEFORE HAD NOT even TRIED, BUT IT TOOK A PRESIDENT (LBJ) TO GET IT DONE. That DREAM BECAME A REALITY, the power of that dream became real in people's lives, BECAUSE we had a PRESIDENT (LBJ) who SAID we are going TO DO IT AND actually GOT IT DONE.
cygapb 4 years ago
KING's DREAM BEGAN WHEN JOHNSON PASSED CIVIL RIGHTS. HE WAS ABLE TO GET SOMETHING KENNEDY WAS HOPEFUL, PRESIDENT BEFORE HAD NOT TRIED, BUT IT TOOK A PRESIDENT (LBJ) TO GET IT DONE. DREAM BECAME A REALITY, BECAUSE PRESIDENT (LBJ) SAID TO DO IT AND GOT IT DONE.
cygapb 4 years ago
Face it, the NAACP is nothing but a socialist organization from top to bottom. Nowhere in the constitution does it say that one race could have special advantage over another.
In fact our founding fathers said all men are created equal with certain God given rights.
Civil rights is just another way to raid the treasury by creating oversight, and pork for the powers that be.
Verlch 4 years ago 3
Our founding fathers added an "except" in that all men are created equal clause. Go back and read it. Black people were not considered full citizens until ammendments were made to the constitution. This country was founded on the backs of racism -
angelina247 4 years ago
Well, I really don't see the problem there. If you want me to cry "victim" about that with you and your PC lemmings, I won't.
I might have a problem with that when Mexico will allow white people to own land, or hold top jobs like being a cop or fireman.
And when South AFrica and Zimbabwe stop killing whites and taking over farm land that doesn't belong to them.
Verlch 4 years ago
Affirmative action needs to end. Nowhere in the constitution does it say any group of people should have an advantage over another group.
Oh and another thing, some of you need to stop coveting what white men have, and communally put yourself to work via hard work and dedication, not special advantage!
Verlch 4 years ago
Wrong..angelina247 the Constitution was anti slavery, and no such clause was written in the Declaration of Independence. You are letting someone else tell you what is written instead of reading it yourself.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
The true racists are the one going around pointing out that MLK was black and LBJ and JFK were white. That is a separation of race. A true non-racist would view them all as simply people fighting for equal rights!
dikdik1313 4 years ago
No they were dividing and conquering Americans.
How much has taxes increased since then?
WE are the Kings have almost become, We the United Stats of socialized Europe.
Verlch 4 years ago
not saying that lbj was necessarily a proper leader in terms of v.n. but he listened when it came to civil rights. btw, i haven't decided between hill and oba.
leyachim 4 years ago
those saying hillary took away from mlk didn't pay attention. she said mlk's dream inspired people to make lbj realize the need for change; that lbj listened to the people and made it real by placing it in law where civil rights must be enforced. it's like the country saying, "we want out of iraq," but nothing happens til a pres says, "ok, the people are right, let's bring the troops home." a dream that speaks to millions makes a proper leader listen and implement change.
leyachim 4 years ago
LBJ also realized the dream of a wasteful, pointless war in SouthEast Asia which took the lives of 50,000 young men and women. With the country tipping with a showdown with Iran, do you want another LBJ in office?
MuleSkinner01 4 years ago
War for profit, ever heard of it?
It was American and British interests that founded and helped create Nazism and communism. Look it up for yourself.
Democracies like ours, and what we are spreading around the world, always lead to dictatorships. Once the people figure out they can raid the treasury, then the politicians they elect, raise up companies to feed off the pork the people create, and it only gets worse! Hitler, Stalin, etc.
Verlch 4 years ago
He could have watered down the bill to appease southern white voters. Instead, he lobbied tirelessly on behalf of the bill, essentially turning his back on said voters. Did he do it for political gain or because he believed in equal rights? I can't say for sure, but I can say that had he not worked hard to convince doubt filled representatives to support equal rights, it would have taken a lot longer to achieve. It sounds to me like dissenters would prefer that LBJ be given no credit at all.
paulflorez 4 years ago
All presidents since FDR have been spineless yes men.
"In politics nothing happens by accident, if it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." -FDR
Verlch 4 years ago
Hillary was always a Marxist. She just got more liberal going to a communist liberal university.
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kidwave1 4 years ago
While I think Hillary's words were not well thought out, I have always supported the Clinton's. I don't want these two camps to implode and allow the Republicans to sneak in and win this thing. Why can't we have Hillary and Barack on the Democratic ticket in the general election??
angelina247 4 years ago
He did not wrap himself in MLK. He also spoke about JFK wanting to put a man on the moon. He was talking about hope and vision, not about race.
angelina247 4 years ago
MLK Jr, speech move alot of people and to dare say that this speech meant nothing is immoral. to say that a president did this is also wrong. shame on you hillary.
jas0n123456789 4 years ago
He can instill that 'fierce urgency of now' into every American. He can make Washington realize that cost of not progressing far outweighs the cost of losing petty partisan battles. Man or woman, black or white, Republican or Democrat, Obama is the candidate for Americans who want progress and want it yesterday.
gqiq 4 years ago
And despite hillary's cynical criticism, that struggle is what Barack Obama represents in this election. He, perhaps more than any presidential candidate in our nation's history, has the power to change hearts and minds. He has the power to transform the tangled web of self-interest and pettiness that has always defined American politics into one uniform pool of progress.
gqiq 4 years ago
The primary and most important part of the civil rights movement was the ideological battle to change people's hearts and minds. Dr. King, not President Johnson, was on the front line of that most difficult battle.
gqiq 4 years ago
Wrong comment at the wrong time. Huge mistake from Hillary. She basically blasphemed the most revered figure of the civil rights movement by equating him and his struggle (and perhaps belittling in comparison) to LBJ and his signature on a piece of legislation. The civil rights act was important legislation but it is only just that: legislation.
gqiq 4 years ago
I love Obama.... but, at the end of the day he is just another politician! 'Do whatever you have to do to get elected' mentality. She played the gender card by crying, and now he plays the race card to get back at her. We all know Hilary is not racist, I don't like her but come on - This is getting goofy now!
mynameandaccount 4 years ago
Obama pulling out the MLK card. What a scum bag. Check his phone records for when he made that call to the vultures Sharpton or Jackson.
prrolg 4 years ago
Don't get dirtier Hillary, or you'll blow up the Democratic coaltion. If the Dems lose in 2008, it will be a nightmare.
WadeBlazingame34 4 years ago
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Hillary was supporting and working for the goldwater campaign at the time, she was actively working against MLK and LBJ
zpinthedark 4 years ago
Hillary was right, it took a president to pass civil rights bills that made MLK's dream a reality! MLK was an iconic figure in world history but he wasn't a president. What's wrong with Hillary's speech?
LateralBud 4 years ago 2
there nothing wrong with her speech at all but if there wasn't a leader at the time pushing them to make things equal the LBJ would have done what the rest of white amarica was doing at that time and thats was ignore the minority people. MLK brought the fight to them and LBJ made it happen and she is down playing what MLK brought to the table thats all im saying!
therealwardog 4 years ago
mick: Spin? look at the damn video! She credits LBJ for civil rights legislation. That is doing versus like Obama or King only hopeful talk. To hell with the disgraceful dishonest clintons. I'll vote for a damn republican before I allow them back in the Oval Office!
rammer257 4 years ago
unfairwitness: You are an uninformed idiot! The speaches are ALL on Youtube. Check your damn facts!
OBAMA '08!
rammer257 4 years ago
Thanks for clarifying that jcw1965, I have a clear understanding of where this MLK statement came from. Wow, not a smart move on her part!!
megamanly30 4 years ago
I would also like to add that if it where not for MLK, there would have not been such a strong mandate, or push towards civil liberties. Johnson would have only acted upon issues where there was demand.
rob91883 4 years ago 2
Hillary Clinton is not racist, but her statement took away credit from what Martin Luther King Jr. accomplished. People that admire MLK, and are considering Hillary Clinton as their candidate must think long and hard about her. It is clear that she is a very different person than what the popular Democratic base believes she is.
rob91883 4 years ago
hillary can claim anything she & her disgraceful husband choose but the interview is available to the world. "Dr Kings words were good but it took Pres Johnson to make the talk a reality." It is not just African Americans pissed by her interpretation of civil rights history. They believe like plantation slave owners, that Blacks are more loyal to their masters than themselves or leaders like Tubman or OBAMA! No to clinton politics & lets boycott bob johnson for his remarks!
OBAMA '08!
rammer257 4 years ago
So is Hillary comparing Obama to MLK , and her self to LBJ through this statement? Is this a direct attack against Obama's camp? If it is.... its a crazy way to show the American public that she can get things done!! SOMEONE PLZ CLARIFY THIS FOR ME.
Thanks you
megamanly30 4 years ago
"and actually got it done" those last few words is where she messed up, she made it seem as if all Dr. King did was bring the thought up, Dr. King went through ALOT, a hell of ALOT to get his dream spread out all over, he didnt just speak words, he also put action behind them, and she should of also mentioned that
FaceMob500 4 years ago
mando0286, not only are you evil but you're an embarassement to black folk. I suppose you voted for Al Sharpton back in the '80s, too, right? Figured as much.
clapolla 4 years ago
Being african american, i am with the prez. of BET ... if the Obama camp thinks intelligent blacks will take this out of context and make a big deal out of it, their sadly mistaking. It just proves to me that Obama and lesser eductated blacks are grasping at straws. Nothing more, nothing less. If THIS offended you, you really shouldn't be voting anyway.
clapolla 4 years ago 3
Hilary just effectively slapped every single Black person in the face with those sickening words.
1) Whether people knew it or not, racism were a set of laws (and still are), inspired by White genetic survival.
2) MLK's view were natural humanistic ones really requiring no laws but commonsense; meaning Whites are naturally inhumane.
Clinton knew exactly what she was doing and it is clear Hilary has already been chosen to be the next president.
outthetube 4 years ago
I totally agree with 1koolkittykat in the sense that Clinton was not trying to insult MLK, but as an African American I must say her comments were insulting regardless because if LBJ was a "caring" president as she stated, it wouldn't have taken him so freaking long to respond. The people had to force him into a response, which is cowardly. So, giving him any credit is ridiculous in my opinion
sryididthis 4 years ago
LBJ was president in a very turbulent time. I recently watched a History Channel or PBS thing on him. He really wanted to do a lot more for civil rights but had a lot of high people against him. He did what he could and did not seek re-election. I don't like Hilary AT ALL, however she was trying to make a presidential point and left off the part that MLK Jr., and the civil rights movement were the single most contributing factor of Johnson signing the bill.
sueteran1 4 years ago
LEAVE HILLARY ALONE!sheloves HER GRANDMOTHER! shes tryin' to build the COUNTRY, did u do that? ha ha
sexybrowneyezSC 4 years ago 2
There are many heroes in the "dream" of realizing civil rights. If Lyndon Johnson were an African American people would not be using this story for their own personal spin.
remeseoane 4 years ago
Even though I despise Hillary. This is much ado about nothing. She wasn't insulting MLK, she is just saying that a President had to act to accomplish that dream.
houstonnick 4 years ago 3
This is being blown out of proportion. What she appears to be saying is that this country needs a president who will listen to and act on behalf of the people and make their dreams a reality, whether it's civil rights or whatever. She's simply implying that she can be the next LBJ - a president who takes action on behalf of the people. It's just "elect me" rhetoric, not an attempt to undermine MLK.
1koolkittykat 4 years ago 2
great sensible comment!
sexybrowneyezSC 4 years ago 3
Those of you who are saying that Hillary Clinton is stealing credit from MLK and giving it all to LBJ are missing the point. I do not hear nor infer this to be an attack on Obama since I do not see him as being timid when it comes to civil rights issues. I also do not see this as an attack on MLK as she specifically mentions it being his "dream." LBJ's actions were just as necessary to further the civil rights act as MLK's actions were necessary in order to bring them to fruition.
paulflorez 4 years ago
livefree4242 -
good one!
edclam 4 years ago
livefree4242 (4 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam -2 Reply | Spam Clinton continues to be a robot who spews random statements. Occasionally she regurgitates poorly. I would like to see more crying. That's what I want in a president.
Remark: lol
edclam 4 years ago
LBJ did nothing but react to a massive people, who have every right to protest a government which does not protect their liberty. LBJ did nothing but save his own skin. People like LBJ, Lincoln, and apparently Hilary, could care less about our liberty.
anwiyayoukhanna 4 years ago
Hilary is pathetic in her undermining of MLK heroic leadership. Governments are designed to keep things the way the are, and it is amazing that a simple unwealthy man like MLK can shake the world. LBJ is the one to credit? Politicans are NEVER the ones to credit for the improvement of civil rights.
anwiyayoukhanna 4 years ago
And one other thing I'd like to add... could we get a show of hands on how many Republicans are responding to this video? I have my suspicions that we're being sabatoged here. :-) Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
dee1153 4 years ago
Thank you so much for your post. As a white woman with a black best friend, I am incensed by all this mainstream media garbage. No one has worked harder for the civil rights movement than Bill & Hillary. The media is shoving this down people's throats, soundbite by soundbite. People, research everything for yourself. THINK for yourselves. All the media wants are their ratings. They don't care anything about substative issues, or you for that matter.
dee1153 4 years ago
I have no doubt that she has the greatest respect for Dr. King, and I'm sure Mrs. Clinton did not intend to belittle King's accomplishments. However, even assuming that's the case, her remarks send a message that "the people don't matter; it's the ones in power who get things done." And that is a bad, a VERY bad message to send.
thinkpad20 4 years ago 2
Clinton continues to be a robot who spews random statements. Occasionally she regurgitates poorly. I would like to see more crying. That's what I want in a president.
livefree4242 4 years ago
lol
edclam 4 years ago
It's interesting how HILARY is the one who continues to bring up race, I think she's trying to paint Barrack Obama as the "Black" candidate instead of the racially neutral guy that he is. It's sad really. This clip just shows me her desparation and that she will do or say anything to achieve power for herself.
minetalou 4 years ago
Okay...Where did she MENTION Obama??...She answered a question pertaining to what Obama said about Martin Luther King! If anything Obama is painting himself blacker than he is! He mentions Dr. King just about ANYWHERE he can! Why? Cause he was black! Cause he knows black people are fond of Dr. King! And he wants that black vote!!
tisgemuh 4 years ago 2
go to freewebs(dot)com/ronaldpaul
GO RON PAul and MLK RIP
mattfailsattrumpet 4 years ago
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Typical mentality of the Al Sharpton's, Jesse Jackson's and, now, the MUSLIM, Osama ... making siemthing out of absolutely nothing. I get so sick of these idiots trying to play the race card at any given chance. I was on the fence between Osama and Hillary, but his "race card" shit has totally turned me off from him and proven he's nothing but another Al Sharpton who just happens to speak a little better and not quite so unattractive.
eplafan 4 years ago
She claims to be "We the People", but what she really is, is a high taxation, anti personal liberty, shrew.
We the people would be constitutional, personal liberty, low taxes and limited government.
Before Woodrow Wilson "The sell out Esau" our tax rate was 1% and the divorce rare was 3%, even amongst the black.
Verlch 4 years ago
Wow. she's boned
draiax 4 years ago
Hillary Clinton has completely lost her mind. If she wasn't backpeddling before she better do some push up and get ready....
WHAT!!!??? There would have never been anything for Lyndon B Johnson to do if Dr. King hadn't started the MOVEMENT. So it goes with Obama and his hope movement....
This is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous - and to Bill the only fairy tale is Hillary's campaign plan. She doesn't have one!
shaesmith2002 4 years ago 2
She is not saying anything about one man being better than another but that one needs the office of President to get things done. I thought that was pretty clear.
Simonchez 4 years ago 2
Dr. King didn't start the movement tho its easy to think that since he has the most recognizable name.
As for Mrs. Clinton, the president before LBJ didn't do anything because he happen to get shot. Bobby Kennedy worked hard to get his brother to pay attention to civil rights.
DieLan2012 4 years ago 2
How can people glean from Hillary's comments that she is in any way demeaning Dr. King? All she is saying is that if LBJ hadn't passed the Civil Rights Act we would be in the same boat as we were! Absolute Dr. King's work inspired him to do it but as Hillary tries to get across - If your LEADERs don't embrace what is being taught and act on it the nation doesn't move forward!
loucard 4 years ago
If you know history, you will understand that LBJ was not really trusted by black people in the sixties. Him signing the Voting Rights Act was only viewed as an extension of John F. Kennedy's efforts. Many black people believed the JFK conspiricy theory and thought LBJ had something to do with JFK's assasination. (might sound crazy now - but it was true) So putting it in historical context and knowing Hiliary was a young adult during that time tells me she spoke off the cuff.
angelina247 4 years ago
This comment of hers was despicable. To denigrate the role of such a great leader held in such high regard by all Americans and people of the world is beyond imagination.
She now has the gall to accuse the Obama campaign of 'twisting her words'. Truly shameful!
bklynsam 4 years ago
I am from New Zealand and its non of my business to mess around in your politics too but I don't think uniter like Obama would be found easly.
Please do something in your power to make him President coz Americans have no idea how good president in America could change world order....
michellkun 4 years ago 4
Have you elected a Maori for Prime Minister?
thomasdosborneii 4 years ago
LBJ had MLK killed. The American dream was a presidential bill with Robert Kennedy AND Martin Luther King as Vice President. Imagine the wonderful world we might be experiencing had this dream come true.
Now we must prepare for the American Nightmare.
captvanhalen 4 years ago
LBJ didn't have MLK killed, the FBI did. Ha ha ha conspiracy!
shaicapone 4 years ago
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Oh yeah, let's get something else straight about the endless pity party of slavery. Only 2% of whites actually owned slaves, when slavery was legal. Even thousands of free blacks owned slaves, as did the Chinese, the Mexicans, and the American Indians.
So, I think slavery is a dead issue, given also that it was black Africans that captured and sold blacks to the arab and anglo slave traders.
Verlch 4 years ago