TrainASDI 9mm Full Metal Jacket vs Hollow Point episode 2

[FR3DisGAY]

What if you dont want to kill people?

[StellerSwag]

hahahaha "and thats why you carry hollow point" true story..

[harroon01]

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[Patmclean232]

Great comparison guys! Adding this one to my favorites. Fruit salad anyone ;)

[AznMaster24]

the hallow point cut the melon in perfect slices!

[triggerfingas]

"...and thats why you carry hollow point" damn right!!!! couldnt have said it better myself...great vid

[jcarnes9999]

Nice visual on the differences!!! Thank you!!

[FlyFishingBob]

Hollow points have a reduced chance of traveling out the other side of the body. You don't want to hit the poor guy that is 50 yards behind your attacker.

[bpaulauskas]

@FlyFishingBob If you are letting rounds off at an assailant while there are civilians 50 yards directly behind, you shouldn't carry. Learn discipline first.

[iamsuperskanick]

@bpaulauskas Like psychic discipline? Somehow foreseeing the exact moment someone attacks him and making sure it's a controlled environment? Yeah, THAT seems feasible...

[youtoo5ify]

@FlyFishingBob I think that concern is over-stated. I wonder if the ammo companies had a hand in emphasizing that to sell the expensive latest and greatest.

[theforeverstone]

hollow points cant pierce body armor so thats why they use FMJ bullets in the military.

[StunnedMutha]

@theforeverstone No actually that isnt why these use FMJ in the military. They use FMJ in the military because that is the only round the Geneva Convention permits a legitimate army to use. Its to do with humanitary reasons. There is less chance the target will actually die and more chance they will end up in a hospital or medical care (in a wartime situation) this would tie up the countires medical centres and is aimed at impacting the economy of the opposing country. Hope ive ENLIGHTENED you!

[youtoo5ify]

@StunnedMutha Actually, I think it was the earlier Hague Convention. Interesting how the countries agreed on it. In 'Nam, the 5.56/.223 at those ranges fragmented upon impact, providing stopping power due to extremely high velocities. Now at longer ranges where the velocity becomes lower than necessary to fragment, the servicemen/servicewomen have complained about stopping power issues...Reading my post, I felt a bit uncomfortable but we still must have a military either way.

[StunnedMutha]

@youtoo5ify ahh, i'd feel much more comfortable with a 308 no matter what the jacketing of the bullet, haha.

[theforeverstone]

@StunnedMutha Well yes, it is for war of attrition but also FMJ bullets have a stonger center of gravity, they will travel more accurately (not as far because heavier). When a hollow point round hits body armor it loses lots of energy when it crumples due to the lack of a solid round, it will do less damage.

[StunnedMutha]

@theforeverstone  They should have used hollow points in Somalia

[theforeverstone]

@StunnedMutha yeah

[icepoop20]

hollow points are some nasty ass bullets

[TheWildbill242]

Impressive demonstration. Thanks ...

[afroninja93]

Ye but fmj is still gonna kill someone, it's just unnecessary

[Vccine]

holy crap

[wikieditspam]

Don't use expanding bullets, don't maim someone that's trying to kill you, incapacitate him, try not kill anyone, ever, seriously.

[johnsix54]

@wikieditspam Are you kidding me? If I'm being attacked, there is no way I'm going to shoot the leg, you have to shoot thoracic cavity (chest) 2-3 times very quickly, then if that does not stop the attack, the cranio-ocular cavity (head).  The results are the responsibility of the attacker, if they would rather live, don't attack me.

[wikieditspam]

@johnsix54 I never said anything about shooting anyone in the leg, Incapacitating someone would be, say, knocking them out. Expanding bullets at the end of the day just make it harder to reciprocate, and harder to stitch people up. I really would have to see the papers written on this to be sure, but my gut tells me that the ultimate effect of hollow points is not immediate, it's longer term, harder to repair maiming, and that's why if out of fear for me life I bought a gun, I wouldn't use em.

[Stringfingerable]

the left one looks the Death Star :o

[seppukuification925]

@Stringfingerable LOL

[garybknightjr]

awsome just what I needed to see

[TheTacticalView]

Thank you for the great vids, they are a great service to the gun community!

[thomasscheer1168]

FATALITY XD

[elbarto138]

amen

[DBSaiyanTim777]

were is the metal

[XXINTL]

what would a full metal jacket be good for then? i mean at war or something... its not armor piercing, but it doesnt leave a gaping hole in the enemy. so what were they made for... or what are they GOOD at doing? were they even used in wars?

[xaal001]

@XXINTL

Hollow points are forbidden by Geneva convention, so aren't used in wars.

[MrThomPS3]

@xaal001 No, actually Genava is about POWs, HPs are forbidden by the Hague convention.

[Rifleman1964]

@XXINTL In Conventional warfare, you want a wounded opponent, not a dead one. It takes a large support group to care for a wounded man and get him off the battle field.

The big problem I see with hollow points is they sometimes fail to expand if the point fills with material. In the case of small calibers they may expand too quickly and fail to reach the vital organs. That being said, should every other round in your .380 be a FMJ? Just food for thought...

[Nolan3RD3RD3RD]

hollow points wont pierce body armor

[DAcanyousaymreyes]

poor melons . 

[EMTRailfan]

Have you tested frangibles? That's what I carry in my 9.

[craigmaster12]

Fmj wasnt made to kill it was made to wound people

[thesatist]

that thing split perfect enough to serve and eat

[nzcwk2005]

@thesatist mmm sweet brassy melon

[hitssquad]

People ≠ watermelons.

[ytgv3fc7]

q: does a hollow-point significantly decrease the risk of pass-through of a bullet to anyone (not a target) behind a target? That's something I've read about. I live in a country where it's highly unusual to own a firearm & particularly NOT hand guns, no experience with this

[doubleplay0798]

@ytgv3fc7 Yes. Because the hollow point begins to fragment upon contact with anything, it will expend most of its energy within the target. Because full metal jackets stay together for the most part, they will be more likely to carry all the way through a target (depending on what it is of course) and exit the other side. Not only does a hollow point do more damage to the target, but it is safer for anything that may happen to be behind the target, though NOTHING behind a target is 100% safe.

[darkwriter77]

FMJ = target practice.

Hollow-point = defense against attacking melons.

:-)

[HVMSSamtex]

@darkwriter77 I'd recommend to always practice with the ammo you use for self defense (e.g. against attacking melons :) ).

[wikieditspam]

@darkwriter77 "Your fruit killing skills are amazing!"

[Urhoboman5]

Is there a list of different calibers? And how to read them? Hollow point is stronger but that's about all I know.

[wardubo]

"and thats why you carry hallow point." LOL

FMJ - Shooting Range/Training

HPJ - Home/Personal Protection

[JeremyATX]

dam a hollow point would fuck someone up

[wardubo]

@JeremyATX yup

[Sukpad89]

Awesome results!!! Sweet vid for a short one...

[grantsdaman01]

mmmm, tasty

[BCOable]

Uh, what distance?

[hambonedodge34]

accidentally, Spell check is free! lol

[hambonedodge34]

This is a very good example. Thanks for the invite, I might have acidently blocked you.

[shark55580]

@Biggungobang hahah i literally thought the same thing and had a good laugh

[kroman222]

you also should compair hp to lead ball and soft point

[tarheelred28390]

Because it's winter, I carry 9mm 115gr. Hornady Critical Defense JHP rounds.

In the summer and spring I carried 9mm 147gr. Winchester Ranger Bonded JHP.

I learned that FMJs are 4 target shooting in my CCP class.

[furtherbeyond]

Very interesting. 

[bryantx3000]

@TrainASDI Thatz why I always keep HP's as my defense ammo; doesn't over penetrate but really gets the job done...

[poopmenoftheworld]

I guess FMJ's are for cleaning it up and keeping it neat but The hollow point i guess is to blow the guys face off and make a mess

[WorldofDepleted]

Very cool demonstration! We're trying to get our film to be as realistic as possible, so these demos you do here are very helpful!

[LcplMJones]

Great video! If a 9mm did that much damage, I'm guessing that a 40 would pretty much make the melon explode? Any chance of shooting that one?

[YamahaWR200]

@LcplMJones Depends on the ammo... Some hollow points will as well depending on if you find the right round. Probably a lighter bullet would have done more damage to the melon like a 115 grain. Strictly because of the speed of the round...

[LauderdaleFat]

what type of hp was that?

[TrainASDI]

@LauderdaleFat We used the Remington 9mm Hollow Point Golden Saber 124gr

[LauderdaleFat]

@TrainASDI Kool my favorites I use 124 grain +p tho thanks keep the videos coming. 

[youtoo5ify]

@TrainASDI Sir, was the hollow-point +P? I thought I heard a difference in report (sound from gun). Also, game/humans have bone. I need to research the effect of bone on HP's.

[discipleofhoudini]

@LauderdaleFat id say about 100 hp since it is a melon.. generally that's not a heavy armor class, as demonstrated by the fact he got one shot by a ranged class