guess what : the headphone vibrates, it turns the audio into electric signal, signal goes to the analog/digital converter in your pc, there you go, audio sent over.
i tried it with my headphones and it doesnt appear to work on my sound recorder but i have a dell does that count. and my heda phones are 2 ringed not 3. it probably wont work at all then huh? cause i dont have the money for a mic.
i have a skull candy head phone with three rings but dont know how to use the mic in it or find the mic in it please reply and tell me the answer to this if possible.
On Older Win XP PC If i record on audacity on stereo with stereo headphones it records from the left because its a mono mic input, On Newer Windows 7 It Records on Stereo, Which is a good way to record my voice in stereo when i sing
multiple voices, I Would Recommend The USB MXL 007 Mic For The Best Stereo Recording, It Cost $200, Check My Vids
nice vid. but i kinda figured this out on my own. i have the bass boosting coby headphones and the work great. so i would suggest using those big type of headphones or studio watever you call it.
THAAAAANNNNNNNNKKKKKKK YOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!! I AM FOREVER GRATEFUL! I had some crappy red Headphones that I had from a shirt I plugged it in and it worked!!!!!
If used in a computer put the headphones in the audio out jack the speak into the left headphone for plane audio recording use a program called sound recorder it comes standard on all windows computers
it works because the mic and the headphones use the same system to make the sound it uses electromagnetics to make vibarations so it could work the other way.
it probbably wouldnt work but you could try it another way with trying to listen to your micin the headphone plug?
I have jlab J3M earphones and I tried plugging them into my computer (windows 7) but the computer wont pick them up as a microphone. The earphones have a built in microphone thatworks for the ipodbut for some reason not on the computer. Do you know why?
@wampatoga You probably have a microphone and headphone input on your computer, so you need to make sure its plugged into the microphone input so it will work.
dude i will subcribe if you fix my 2 problems i have apple earphones my first problem is that it dose not work on my vista it works on my laptop so if you can tell me how to make it work on my vista and my sceound problem i have to speak relly loude and put them close to my face to get good voice so if you can fix one of them i will suscribe
It works pretty well with these Sony Stereo headphones I'm using. :) Just don't pull it to close to your face. Wear it around your neck instead because It looks cooler and sounds better! XD
Dude This Shit WORKS!!!!! i use standard apple headphones and they work like a charm! thanx dude! Sending this to all of my friends! (btw im on a Toshiba laptop with windows 7!)
i used to aple headphones with the microphone nd remote all i did was connec it to the microphone nd i tlk through the headphones but to get better soun u may go to settings nd give it a boost
i found out about this the day before i watched this but yea it works perfict for me and i have vista but i did go to controll panel and speach then set up mic ;)
im trying to use a a set oh headphones as a mic on a game called combat arms but i talk into the headphones i hear nothing can some one help me out the headphones are plugged in right i know that
@Twonnswaggaturntup24 well first ur gonna need some sort of multi track recording program like mixcraft, then u just hook up the mic or headphones in this case and set tht as ur input under the armed track and then just add the instrumental to another track and record =] hmu for more info
Hey guys, I have found away that works on both vista and xp and i think even 7. You plug any set of headphones in to the mic slot on your computer. Then go to Control panel, sound, recording. Microphone FP, properties, levels if not full change both or just 1 to full.
Piezoelectric headphones generate power from sound and sound from power, which allows the head phones to act as a either a speaker or microphone.. The reason the headphones don't record you that loud is because in many microphones they have conductor coils that amplifies the power. But like you said.. some headphones don't work at all it is because they use another type of piezoelectric system.. Nice video.. but maybe you should update this one a little bit..
i want to use it for socom cause i bought the game in the bargain bin at wal mart but didnt come with the freaking headset how can you get it to work for a ps2 anyone got an idea
@Leader509 Windows xp is an operating system. It relys on your computer wher to put it because thre are lots of types of computers. It usualy has a little microphone picture above the place to put it
lol a funny story: i was watching this vid cuz i didnt have a mic (at least i didnt think so) and while i wait for the vid to load i looked through my game thing and found the wii microphone thing and it actually works lol THE END
Thanxs. It does work! Well i dont know but i thought my headphones where just normal but after watching your video i looked at them and they had 3 rings. The i spoke into this square thing on it and it worked. Thanxs!
I have Sony Headphones with only 2 rings. It sucks because I'll record and there's TONS of static in the background, and I can barely hear my voice. Oh well. I need to start a lemonade stand or something for a mic, lol.
Yeah I tried it but it wouldn't work it was going to my webcam so I took that out then it just wouldn't work at all so yeah oh well.. What mic do you use like that one it's pretty HQ or did u record on camera??? Anyways what Mic would u recommend for me to buy for fandubbing and etc
I actually don't have an external mic for my videos, the reason for that is because my camera doesnt have a mic input so I cant use any of the mics that I have lying around. As far as a mic to buy, well let me just say you really don't need to spend too much money on a mic, for the most part, unless you spend a few hundred dollars you wont notice any difference.
guess what : the headphone vibrates, it turns the audio into electric signal, signal goes to the analog/digital converter in your pc, there you go, audio sent over.
lucadepu 3 weeks ago
@lucadepu good to know, thanks for the information!
XxgodismyrockxX 3 weeks ago
can u use a blackberry earphone as a mic?? comment backk plzz i needd to know and if u know it tell me ?
ismailboy667 1 month ago
@ismailboy667 Try it, I just told you how...
XxgodismyrockxX 1 month ago
It's works on vista for all it know~
alexbyehi 1 month ago
@alexbyehi Really!? Good to know.
XxMrmoneyKing 4 weeks ago
haaa jokes on you!!!!
RoFlcommenter 1 month ago
pease let me sum up this 10 minutes video in 20 seconds, use ur headphones as a mic, may not work on vista, have a great day..
freddygotfisted 1 month ago
So this wont work on vista? :(
metalman3D 1 month ago
ur smarticle
mouseonme36 1 month ago
thumbs up if when you tried this your speakers started blasting a preacher preaching a sermon about the lawd n stuff smh!
xdFlyKiidxd 2 months ago
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xdFlyKiidxd 2 months ago
I have windows 7 and I use Sony MDR-W08 headphones and it works.
RALTactics 2 months ago
Why Do i need to watch this?? I have a samson meteor mic... LOL
JayQuinn1994 2 months ago
but wenn i put the mic in the thing :p
then i cant hear the music etc ...
MrDaantje9 2 months ago
Will it work on a xbox 360???
InSaNegAmEr217 2 months ago
any way to trick and ipod touch into believing that a normal headset is a mic?
drealbabo258 3 months ago
@drealbabo258 not that I know of
XxgodismyrockxX 2 months ago
i tried it with my headphones and it doesnt appear to work on my sound recorder but i have a dell does that count. and my heda phones are 2 ringed not 3. it probably wont work at all then huh? cause i dont have the money for a mic.
WTTMfan 3 months ago
@minervini1920
*COUGH* GAY
RsBottingReviews 3 months ago
@BigAppleMacintosh
*COUGH*gay..
RsBottingReviews 3 months ago
Does it have to be a camera...or can i just plug it into the computer?
im confused...can i use it to just record my voice?
Cidwithey 3 months ago
Doesnt work on dell xps m140
Myxboxisarobot 3 months ago
@BigAppleMacintosh very cute!
minervini1920 4 months ago
i have a skull candy head phone with three rings but dont know how to use the mic in it or find the mic in it please reply and tell me the answer to this if possible.
Thanx for ur time :)
genocidalss501 4 months ago
On Older Win XP PC If i record on audacity on stereo with stereo headphones it records from the left because its a mono mic input, On Newer Windows 7 It Records on Stereo, Which is a good way to record my voice in stereo when i sing
multiple voices, I Would Recommend The USB MXL 007 Mic For The Best Stereo Recording, It Cost $200, Check My Vids
Studio1043 4 months ago
worked with my standard nokia headphones :-)
SuperWellzy 5 months ago
@SuperWellzy by the way im on and acer laptop with windows 7 :0
SuperWellzy 5 months ago
i have a macbook and it wont work somone help me please :)
The2Kplaymaker 5 months ago
doesnt work on windows 7
FantagePrincessify 5 months ago
@FantagePrincessify yes it does
jymzw 4 months ago
@HintsTV Oh I see what you mean...I thought you meant record your voice over it...yeah not going to work.
XxgodismyrockxX 5 months ago
@HintsTV I record mine separately and just line up the audio correctly...it's not that hard to do
XxgodismyrockxX 5 months ago
didnt work made comentary with skull candies no sound no voice
armymankiller228 6 months ago
@HintsTV Just record it on the iPhone
XxgodismyrockxX 6 months ago
used skullcandy lowriders on skype with my mate, was pretty shitty but still worked , using windows 7 with latest skype update
DinosaurKidVids 6 months ago
does dre dre studios work
fav145d 6 months ago
Man you are AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
aditya29329 6 months ago
@aditya29329 Thanks! I try hahh
XxgodismyrockxX 6 months ago
This is actually a good vid...
XxSenorBanoxX 6 months ago
nice vid. but i kinda figured this out on my own. i have the bass boosting coby headphones and the work great. so i would suggest using those big type of headphones or studio watever you call it.
NFR31 6 months ago
ya i wanna know how to record me and music like a rap with a beat u know? and put it on Fb or youtube do u know how message asap thanks :)
xOHIOxBEASTx 7 months ago
awsome tthx i have a microphone but lost it
yimmthy 7 months ago
when i use mine. the audio just comes out of my speakers.
piggy68921 7 months ago
my headphones have a microphone and it doesn't work + it has 2 rings not 3 whats the problom
werppeoo 7 months ago
I Got This
But How Do You Record Your Voice With Background Music Playing?!
'Cause When I Record My Voice With The Sound Recorder On My PC
It Records My Voice But It Doesnt Record The Background Music
So Can You Help?
sujutapwa1 7 months ago
Is it just me or is anyone else on vista where it echos?
nottz99mufc 8 months ago
thx for the help never knew that this would work thumbs and fav
FURTHERMORE1000 8 months ago
@FURTHERMORE1000 sure thing! Glad I could hlep!
XxgodismyrockxX 8 months ago
I can't believe it actually worked!I have Nady over-ear studio QH-200 stereo headphones on a Toshiba Windows 7 system.
yokin128 8 months ago
@yokin128 awesome!!
XxgodismyrockxX 8 months ago
@XxgodismyrockxX Hey dude i have a compaq Presario PC and i dont know where to put my headset with a mircophone can you help?
negi358 7 months ago
it works but i wanna learn how to hear people
pieceofmei 8 months ago
Can u do a tutorial for how to use the headphones on audacity because I'm subcribing
nasrsarian 9 months ago
Not loud enough on vista..
DayBreakCLAN 9 months ago
sick man it works with my altec lansings but its crap quality
macfreak98 9 months ago
This is epic. Worked on my Windows 7 machine. Thanks!
MagicRevealer09 10 months ago
@MagicRevealer09 Anytime! Glad I could help~!
XxgodismyrockxX 9 months ago
@XxgodismyrockxX This is amazing. Really wierd how it works. Thanks anyway, it's helped me for now, until my new microphone arrives :)
MagicRevealer09 9 months ago
@MagicRevealer09 Awesome!! Well enjoy your new microphone and don't forget to subscribe =)
XxgodismyrockxX 9 months ago
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@XxgodismyrockxX Aha, will do. Maybe check out some of my videos? I do a lot of tech videos :)
MagicRevealer09 9 months ago
Could I use my xbox mic
Mastergamesplayer200 10 months ago
i bought a microphone off ebay and it wont even fit into the jack in the laptop. it does fit into the jack in the computer, though.
Lollistar12 10 months ago
dosent work for windows 7
spadezcuz 10 months ago
THAAAAANNNNNNNNKKKKKKK YOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!! I AM FOREVER GRATEFUL! I had some crappy red Headphones that I had from a shirt I plugged it in and it worked!!!!!
Beastzombie000 10 months ago
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Thank you this really Helped but how do you stop the noise in the background
PCgamer12321 11 months ago
Thank you this really Helped but how do you stop the noise in the backgound
PCgamer12321 11 months ago
wow it worked
kol101101 11 months ago
If used in a computer put the headphones in the audio out jack the speak into the left headphone for plane audio recording use a program called sound recorder it comes standard on all windows computers
wiime22 11 months ago
it dosnt fuckin work
Lucozade44 11 months ago
i have samsung headphones.
it fits into the usb ports but the comp says that it has malfunctioned.
please help!
MyComputerLover 11 months ago
IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! use apple earphones
XSaint760X 11 months ago
it works because the mic and the headphones use the same system to make the sound it uses electromagnetics to make vibarations so it could work the other way.
it probbably wouldnt work but you could try it another way with trying to listen to your micin the headphone plug?
1998kjw 11 months ago
And you've got the BEATS!
MaskedPhotoshopTuts 11 months ago
@MaskedPhotoshopTuts I don't have the Beats...I didn't buy them, because I don't really like wired headphones.
XxgodismyrockxX 11 months ago
I have jlab J3M earphones and I tried plugging them into my computer (windows 7) but the computer wont pick them up as a microphone. The earphones have a built in microphone thatworks for the ipodbut for some reason not on the computer. Do you know why?
wampatoga 1 year ago
@wampatoga You probably have a microphone and headphone input on your computer, so you need to make sure its plugged into the microphone input so it will work.
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
hha worked yesterday, not today :D
sloesty 1 year ago
@sloesty Hmm that's weird...maybe try a reboot?
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
..............YOUVE GOT ALOT OF HEADPHONES GET TO THE POINT xD
Jonaeproductionx3 1 year ago
I have presidian headphones and here not working
SuperEJ911 1 year ago
@BigAppleMacintosh hah yeah i get told that alot
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
nvm i worked on my vista i just need help with sound i put my mouth close to mic but dosent come that loud
update2011new 1 year ago
@update2011new Okay, well yeah you will need them close to your mouth because it isn't made to me a microphone.
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
dude i will subcribe if you fix my 2 problems i have apple earphones my first problem is that it dose not work on my vista it works on my laptop so if you can tell me how to make it work on my vista and my sceound problem i have to speak relly loude and put them close to my face to get good voice so if you can fix one of them i will suscribe
update2011new 1 year ago
@update2011new sometimes apple headphones dont work with all vista computers...try a different kind of headphone
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
will turtle beaches work???
PaintBallGuy813 1 year ago
@PaintBallGuy813 Yes, they already have a mic built in...
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
@XxgodismyrockxX lol fail
rozclot 1 year ago
u talk way too long
PeytonandReed 1 year ago
It works pretty well with these Sony Stereo headphones I'm using. :) Just don't pull it to close to your face. Wear it around your neck instead because It looks cooler and sounds better! XD
ThunderstormBaseball 1 year ago
@ThunderstormBaseball Cool, thanks for the info.
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
It works because the mechanics of the inside of a microphone is the same as the make up of speakers. you can also use a microphone as a speaker.
EternalEmbraceMusic 1 year ago
@EternalEmbraceMusic ahhh...thats pretty cool though
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
intro = wtf? but i kinda like it cuz its funny... hehe no offense
sgbballer 1 year ago
WOW that actually worked with my philips she3583, but the sound is rly low XD
Janetfsho 1 year ago 4
the beginning is cool but its a waste of time
THEmrBACKSTABBER 1 year ago
Dude This Shit WORKS!!!!! i use standard apple headphones and they work like a charm! thanx dude! Sending this to all of my friends! (btw im on a Toshiba laptop with windows 7!)
SosaBoyTellem 1 year ago
this is fucking great! its is so clear and crisp its amazing! i mite not even buy a mic. its great, THANKS!
JBAKAJJEROCKS 1 year ago
which hole do you plug it into on your computer?i got 3. a green hole,blue and red hole.can you help me?
gutzmand 1 year ago
@gutzmand check the symbols next to each color
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
@gutzmand Its the red one.
IVgrandtheftauto 1 year ago
it works for window 7 thx ur the best.
The2kingdom 1 year ago
i tried skull candy they worked i also tried philips noise canceling head phones that also worked
jesse22266 1 year ago
@jesse22266 awesome...thanks for the update!
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
@XxgodismyrockxX it work for me on a dell pc?
Fr3shB0iii 1 year ago
Does it work with ipod
Jamesyoung450 1 year ago
@Jamesyoung450 it might...give it a try and let us know
XxgodismyrockxX 1 year ago
@XxgodismyrockxX Yes it does work with ipod. That was the first one i tried out.
ThePikachusLunch 1 year ago
Lol i even tried out my headphones i got with my electric guitar and they worked.
TheEliteNerd 1 year ago
it worked for me if i didnt plug them in all the way
RobotWalk 1 year ago
hahah your such a goof, love ya
RobotWalk 1 year ago
i used to aple headphones with the microphone nd remote all i did was connec it to the microphone nd i tlk through the headphones but to get better soun u may go to settings nd give it a boost
ustaz69 1 year ago
i used to aple headphones with the microphone nd remote all i did was connec it to the microphone nd i tlk through the headphones
ustaz69 1 year ago
completly slipped my mind . thanks.
kc7wwy 1 year ago
it worked!!!!!!!!!! somehow?... for me it worked with my ipod headphones didnt try any other ones I already have a mic I was just testing this anyway
mionDM 1 year ago
i found out about this the day before i watched this but yea it works perfict for me and i have vista but i did go to controll panel and speach then set up mic ;)
Mrbeatingsyou 1 year ago
im trying to use a a set oh headphones as a mic on a game called combat arms but i talk into the headphones i hear nothing can some one help me out the headphones are plugged in right i know that
koer56 1 year ago
i have none of the setups all i have is my computer
and philips headphones how do i go by recording with instrumentals
playing @ the sametime
Twonnswaggaturntup24 1 year ago
@Twonnswaggaturntup24 well first ur gonna need some sort of multi track recording program like mixcraft, then u just hook up the mic or headphones in this case and set tht as ur input under the armed track and then just add the instrumental to another track and record =] hmu for more info
gabriel71413 1 year ago
you have use microphones as speakers aswell ;)
jazsta123 1 year ago
Skull candy, alright
SunburntBrownie 1 year ago
it works because u put the Ear phones in the ipods OUTPUT plug. If u put it in the input plug its doing the same just the other way around.
SunburntBrownie 1 year ago
Hey guys, I have found away that works on both vista and xp and i think even 7. You plug any set of headphones in to the mic slot on your computer. Then go to Control panel, sound, recording. Microphone FP, properties, levels if not full change both or just 1 to full.
DaWagaCagaJagaSaga 1 year ago
lol notepad people ._.
PEZZY3 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS GUYS. FUCK THOES FUCKING NOTE PAD GUYS lol
GuerreroF5 1 year ago
i have sansa headphones w/ 2 rings, nd i have windows....7? ya
samigrl1234 1 year ago
Nokia headphones (the newer ones) worked windows 7 very nicely
zaktan744 1 year ago
I have Vista, used a regular set of headphones and worked great, thanks!
jxjd36 1 year ago
sorry bro, you dont look gangsta.
DJJohndice 1 year ago
Does it works for iPod touch 2g?
12345Jonna 1 year ago
Piezoelectric headphones generate power from sound and sound from power, which allows the head phones to act as a either a speaker or microphone.. The reason the headphones don't record you that loud is because in many microphones they have conductor coils that amplifies the power. But like you said.. some headphones don't work at all it is because they use another type of piezoelectric system.. Nice video.. but maybe you should update this one a little bit..
Sadorath 1 year ago
JVC Gumy work great with my Windows 7 laptop
Gnat3094 1 year ago
you suck like shit in this. ar u..........
TheBan95 1 year ago
I have Vista on my laptop and this thing is working for me. I can use my headphones as microphone. :D
Thanks, dude! :)
rajmadlani 2 years ago
I am using Windows Vista and I can use my headphones as microphone. :D
Thanks, dude! ;)
rajmadlani 2 years ago
i want to use it for socom cause i bought the game in the bargain bin at wal mart but didnt come with the freaking headset how can you get it to work for a ps2 anyone got an idea
nickelbackdude1255 2 years ago
I have an XP computer where do i plug my HP in at?
Leader509 2 years ago
@Leader509 Windows xp is an operating system. It relys on your computer wher to put it because thre are lots of types of computers. It usualy has a little microphone picture above the place to put it
zaktan744 1 year ago
I tried it onwindows xp with Coby CV H47s on in windows movie maker
WesRandom 2 years ago
I tried it on my Imac with a pair of sonymdr xd200s in garage band and in iphoto and it works super well.
Brunsworth 2 years ago
it doenst work with vista cuz vista SUCKS
blackarrowstorm 2 years ago 19
@blackarrowstorm
no your just a newwb
XP for Pussies who cant take crashes
Vista for tough people who can fight crashes AND MAKE A STUPID MIC WORK
sharingan9652 1 year ago
@blackarrowstorm your right vista sucks because u dont get microsoft sam voice
THEmrBACKSTABBER 1 year ago
@blackarrowstorm i love vista
McMIxTER 1 year ago
@blackarrowstorm I agree!
XxgodismyrockxX 8 months ago
lol a funny story: i was watching this vid cuz i didnt have a mic (at least i didnt think so) and while i wait for the vid to load i looked through my game thing and found the wii microphone thing and it actually works lol THE END
Shadowpwnsall1 2 years ago
i deserve an award
Jackot08 2 years ago 34
@Jackot08 haha me too.
mattnanokid 1 year ago
OMG !! You are the man lol. Thank you :) I had NO IDEA you could actually do that.
PrinceAndJackie 2 years ago
Beleive me i got one back in July for my I-pod
it was Mic+HeadPhones,, Prize was 1.87$.
ShehzadHBK 2 years ago
:D sweeeet
Mosspelt8 2 years ago
works with mac and apple headphones
but doesnt work with iphone 3g
funnyboyz7 2 years ago
thanks sooooo much
LegendofthePacks 2 years ago
Thanxs. It does work! Well i dont know but i thought my headphones where just normal but after watching your video i looked at them and they had 3 rings. The i spoke into this square thing on it and it worked. Thanxs!
Honama1 2 years ago
thanks for the tip!:)
bookittystumpy5 2 years ago
do you have a girlfriend?
TheMayoHELLO 2 years ago
I have Sony Headphones with only 2 rings. It sucks because I'll record and there's TONS of static in the background, and I can barely hear my voice. Oh well. I need to start a lemonade stand or something for a mic, lol.
FireheartToonTown 2 years ago 3
Dude i achuely got my stage mic to work as a speaker
hostblank 2 years ago
it worked in my mac
w4w4w4d 2 years ago
lol you said retard xD
narutohowler 2 years ago
Hey would this be good for Fandubbing? Like recording for voice acting stuff since my 30 bucks mic has like static background -_-
PikachuzMiniMovieDub 2 years ago
It should work fine, I wouldnt rely on it as your permanent mic, but it should work temporarily.
XxgodismyrockxX 2 years ago
Yeah I tried it but it wouldn't work it was going to my webcam so I took that out then it just wouldn't work at all so yeah oh well.. What mic do you use like that one it's pretty HQ or did u record on camera??? Anyways what Mic would u recommend for me to buy for fandubbing and etc
PikachuzMiniMovieDub 2 years ago
I actually don't have an external mic for my videos, the reason for that is because my camera doesnt have a mic input so I cant use any of the mics that I have lying around. As far as a mic to buy, well let me just say you really don't need to spend too much money on a mic, for the most part, unless you spend a few hundred dollars you wont notice any difference.
XxgodismyrockxX 2 years ago
it worked perfectly
andreshelton 2 years ago
i had some sony portable speaker things and they worked!! thanks man!!
TWFtech 2 years ago
Sure thing man! Thanks for letting us know what worked!
XxgodismyrockxX 2 years ago
Us?
HBD22Tech 2 years ago
Everybody who watches the videos...
XxgodismyrockxX 2 years ago
i have lik 10 pairs of headphones and now i cant find eny now that i can use them lol
TheOssk3 2 years ago
You'll find them Im sure!
XxgodismyrockxX 2 years ago
i have windows vista and i had some cheap dollar store headphones and it worked it was insane plus the quality is great!
rediceman222 2 years ago
Nice, thanks for actually leaving a comment about it unlike most people who didnt even bother
XxgodismyrockxX 2 years ago
i have a dell windows xp and i cant find my comp's mic input thing
melodyemilyandchloe 2 years ago