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  • If it makes a women feel good to wear a hijab regardless of her faith then do it! I am not muslim and was born into a Christian family but I am more spiritual and take a little from every religion. Anywhoodles.....I'm ording some scarfs next week and I am going to start wearing the hijab for modesty. It is something I want to do for myself.

  • I personally agree with what you said because not many people know that Christian women are supposed to cover their heads. For example, I never found out about this until i started researching about it today! Now I want to broadcast it to every Christian & Catholic women I know! :) God bless! And thank you for making this video!

  • Im a Unitarian Universalist, and I wore my head covered for the first time today! I was anxious cuz I live in a small town. My parents had the worst time with it tho. I'm an adult but see them frequently to help out... My mother was upset and really didn't want to listen to my reasons. My husband however loves the idea of it, and said he thought I was even more beautiful for guarding my modesty and acknowledging his biblical authority over me. I'm so glad to have found your channel! ;)

  • I wouldn't mind taking off my headcover at an airport or courtroom. But school? I would soooooo wear my headcover to school (but I'm homeschooled, so I don't have that problem)

  • i cover my hair as a form of modesty. it just like how women in the 1900s would cover wrist to ankle, covering their head, with gloves. I think we have to know our rights. i would have to take off my head covering in a private place. in my culture hair is a very big thing and its enough of a thing to attract men from it. even when we see the prophets wives in the bible cover, normally it was due to a non family male coming into the room

  • I'm a Catholic woman who covers her head full-time. I honestly would have a problem with being asked to take my head scarf off in school or court. To me, it is an issue of modesty-I started covering my hair before I became more serious about my religion. As far as airport security, I can agree that if we could go to a secluded area (me and a female security guard) then I would take off my scarf so she could search it. These are my thoughts on this issue.

  • I am a Christian woman who covers the head when in prayer. This is in accordance with the writings of the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians chapter 11: verses 1-16. It is not always the same type of covering, because the mandate is not for any one type of headress. I cover in prayer, or according to my daily dress. This may be a scarf, or snood, as well as a hat. I will happily remove that head cover when it is appropriate; such as in a courtroom. My heart is to honor God, but not to distract.

  • The head covering was not a suggestion in the Bible or in the Church. The problem is not the head covering but the feminist ideology that has permeated the Church and all that comes with it. The head covering is simply about obedience and one following the example and life of the sisters who went on before us.

    The issue of Muhammadans and the veil is a non-issue. St. Paul makes it very clear in 1 Corinthians 11 that this is about faithfully submitting to God and his order. A powerful witness..

  • @onef8th How strange, I was having precisely this thought earlier today. So often women talk about "feeling led to" do it, or "feeling uncomfortable" in some way or other. But really, why should our feelings have anything to do with? It's an authentic Orthodox tradition (Tradition? it's Biblical even!). Why all the discussion and angst? No, I see the use of it, it's unfortunately necessary, but it's becoming so tiresome. (This is me talking to me - I need to get over it and move on.)

  • she looketh well to the ways of her household and eateth not the bread of idleness...clean up your house.

    sister to sister, i am telling you to clean up. not to be mean or self-righteous. it has nothing to do with a head covering, but we can clearly see the room behind you, so this does have something to do with the video. so, please do that.

  • @hisboo911 Solomon was wise but I am neither his nor your servant to judge. If we were sisters then you would not assume the worst about me, but perhaps would find out why I have difficulty with housekeeping or offer to help me organize my bookshelves or even just listen w/o judging about my trouble trusting people or anxiety over organization and how it means I can walk past clutter b/c its too overwhelming. Actually it has everything to do with headcovering. But I don't have to explain myself.

  • @MrsShirotora I am not judging you. BTW, I can give you the definition of "judging" later. Nor do I assume the worst about you. I just assumed that you dont clean up. But, I apologize. May I ask what your troubles are? Maybe I can give you some advice...I dont know. Maybe I can though. Please forgive me for being so forward. I am humbling myself now.

  • I just wanted to comment because a few years ago I considered head-covering after retuning from 6 weeks in Jordan. I kept my head covered there for 2 reasons 1) I'm ginger so I roast 2) red hair is so rare that everyone wanted to touch it. That got annoying fast. 1 reason I decided not to was because I felt I was invading the Islamic cultural identity. I would like to see head-covering open to all people for religious or not. When its done right I think it just looks good.

  • Also, I am not a "headcovering' Christian, but I do think that it is quite plausible. My fiance is a believer, but he views things like that as 'old school' and I think it would be a difficult adjustment seeing as I have never worn them before. Still, I think it is within all rights to do so.

  • I like the idea of headcovering...I mean I don't feel it is our duty to wear them for the purpose of keeping the man in check, but remind us of the headship order... I mean yes, I'm probably going to get nailed for being anti-feminist, but it is a personal choice. I do think people should be allowed to wear them as long as face is identifiable. No covering of the face...and maybe some restrictions or whatever (like you stated with airport check point)...but I'm running out of characters here

  • In the Orthodox Church women still have to cover their hair. St. Paul ordered that women should cover their hair when praying.

    Also in the apostolic Constitions also the Apostles ordered that women should cover their hair.

  • Thanks for explaining it to me. Guess I'm not gonna be wearing it to school, my school's dress code doesn't add the "except for religious purposes" part.

  • @Julianakun American public high schools are like prisons for teenagers. You may not have committed a crime (yet), but if you're between the ages of 13 and 18, we don't want to see you on the street. Unless you want to join the army. (I begged to go to boarding school to get away from my local public high school. Begged and pleaded.)

  • @MrsShirotora I totally agree! I hate high school, but I'm almost out. I have about a year and a quarter of "hell" left, and then I get to go into the real world and join the human race :) Can't wait!

  • Can you wear a headscarf to public high school if ur not Muslim?

  • @Julianakun Different school districts have different dress codes and policies, but if they make an exception for Muslims, they have to allow others who are wearing it for religious purposes. This is reflected in the language of dress codes - they generally say something like "except for religious purposes," and people assume that to mean hijab or yarmulkes, but if you're a Christian who wears a covering for religious reasons, legally, they should allow that. If they don't, call a lawyer.

  • @swordofgodone Ok I have to ask....why does a man have to shave his head? THis is a new one to me.

  • @good2goski The miters and veils of bishops have a different history that has something to do with practical considerations after violent persecutions. But I'm not sure of the details. I really appreciate that you respectfully disagree. In fact I don't think it's required. I was hindered for a long time b/c I thought people who didn't want to cover would feel I was judging them by doing so.

  • @good2goski If you read that one verse in isolation, it make the entire passage nonsense. It's St. Paul's argument by analogy: Most women naturally feel upset and ashamed if they are forced to given up their covering of hair; hair is a covering that brings "honor." I'm sure God does think my long hair is beautiful. He did make it. But it's like how you don't wear white to a wedding. When you pray or worship, the focus is one the Beautiful One, and it's respectful to cover one's own beauty.

  • beautiful.. god bless you x

  • I haven't read the entire Bible yet, but there's a passage in the first book of Corinthians that would seem to suggest that a woman should cover her head while in prayer (specifically 1 Corinthians 11:5-6 NIV, I will be asking my pastor about that passage next Sunday). But I haven't read anything about how a woman should cover her head all the time. 

  • @animeodyssey15 Some people take Paul's injunction "pray without ceasing" as a reason to cover all the time as a reminder to pray throughout the day or so as to be always prepared. Some (that is, me) split the difference and cover when in public, when you can't run home and grab a scarf.

  • @MrsShirotora Sounds like a good idea, I think I'll do that. Later on in that 1 Corinthians passage, it seems to suggest that my hair is a covering. But if the Bible mentions that I should cover when meeting strange men (Genesis 24:64-65) and while in prayer (1 Corinthians 11:5-6) and my hair is a covering, then I'm not really doing anything different than what I normally do because my hair is always there. So good idea, I will do that and thank you.

  • @animeodyssey15 the NIV is not relayable in for detailed research i would recommend the ESV OR the KJV

  • I don't know a lot about this, but I just finished taking POLS 1011 (I'm pretty up there, eh? lol) & our professor told us that if the holy book of your religion requires you to do a specific act, like headcovering, & it harms no one, you have the right to do it & no one can deny you that right. Now if I were in a courtroom & the judge asked me to remove mine, (I hope) I would have the courage to stand up to him, because it is my right & not even he can legally deny that right to me.

  • Let's look at it in a different view than comparing ourselves to muslim women. At an airport would a nun be required to remove her headcovering? Or in a courthouse would a nun be required to remove her headcovering? In any situation would a nun be required to remove her headcovering? I have never seen a nun asked or required to remove her headcovering. So why should other followers of Christ be asked or required to remove their headcovering? God Bless!!

  • @Veiled4God Good call. Although, my boss (an attorney) did point out to me some justification for a woman removing her headcovering in court. In ecclesiastic courts of the middle ages, if a nun was the defendant she would be required to the push her veil back while in court.

  • @MrsShirotora Those were just questions I had. I really have never seen a nun be asked to remove her veil. God bless!

  • @NatTurnerIsAlive You're entirely right. The racism angle hadn't occured to me before, which is itself a result of my white privilege.No doubt I suffer less harrassment than would a darker person similarly attired. Where I come from headscarves are more associated with black women, so maybe that's the problem: I'm a white person doing something "black," hence the funny looks. But then again, I am a white woman, so I can pretty much get away with anything, so I do it anyway.Racism is confusing.

  • I do believe that headcovering is a personal conviction-- something between the individual and God. I do think that the church needs to be taught about it and that there needs to be an understanding of the meaning behind it.

    I agree about stepping aside at airports and courthouses to check for safety reasons-- I understand about the security measures, but sometimes people go overboard with requirements of removing head scarves.

  • Well I have only just started covering, and so far I only do it when I pray or am at church or bible meeting, etc., because the bible doesn't command us to wear it all the time, only when praying or prophesying. However, if someone was harrassing me or ordering me to take it off at an airport, it's very likely I would be praying silently due to the situation, so I would need to keep it on! I don't really know what to think.

  • well, we wear the headovering for the eason that man is at the head of woman, Christ the head of man and God the head of Christ.

    muslims do it because of modesty. we can wear a chapel cap, we don't need to cover as much just need something on the top of our heads. muslims shouldn't be harrassed for trying to be modest and i do not think they should have to take it off.

    imagine you were wearing a turtleneck and someone said "you could be hiding something" and made you wear a low cut shirt?

  • @kelseyleeification Exactly. I think your example of a turtleneck is a good analogy. The only reason people don't think you're hiding something under your turtleneck is because turtlenecks fall within our culture's definition of normal clothing while head scarves are more or less weird.

  • I love the bun in the back. I were my headcovering when i pray. And when I go to prayer at church. And I am moving toward wearing it more often. thanks for the videos

  • I think its a nice thing to wear, it's not necesary though, but it looks like youre special, and it can help to remind people youre trying to be modest

  • Personally, I think if a woman wants to wear the headcovering they s hould be allowed it's their right. It's odd to me how people look at a woman who wants to dress modestly and wear a headcovering as "weird" but if a woman wants to walk around with thigh high miniskirts or topless, they're supposedly "expressing themselves!" 

  • Good job on this video!I cover my head too due to 1 Cor 11:5-6!!

  • I am Russian Orthodox and I can say that Orthodox woman should wear head scarfes and body covering clothes. It makes me very happy hearing that this woman converted to our faith and I tryly, deeply respect you and your choise! It is true that actualy Islam and Orthodox is very alike. Not oly when it comes to rules but also the way we pray. God bless u.

  • Absolutely. You are right. I just haven't had the courage to wear one until now. Thank you to all the head covering women!

  • It's not about attempting to look like a Muslim .... It is in the Torah, also in the Quran, the bible do some research. I totally agree with it. But, I also know that we cant force this on people it must be a conviction from God not from men... Stay focus on the Word of God... Muslim, Jew and Christians is not about scarf is about who do you belong too.. the women in the Torah and scriptures covered their head... then again, don't cover your head and sin... whats the purpose of that?

  • I have been wearing a head covering for about 17 years, but for the last year I really struggled with it and didn't wear it around groups of non-covering sisters. But just recently upon discovering scarves and being encouraged by a friend, I decided to keep it on all the time again. I am a born again Christian and I just want to wear a covering. I will share one time while I was renewing my license they would not take my picture with my covering on & I had to remove it which I did.

  • I dont cover ... but I really dont see a good reason to make a big deal out of someone who does.

  • We should wear our headcovering whenever and where ever we want to. We should insist.

  • Hi Sister, I don't agree that it is not a modesty issue for christians. The Bible says that it is a woman's glory. However, I think that it should be an individual choice. Modesty should be something that comes from within. Otherwise it is not real. I think that it is a personal choice between you and God.

  • I have just started covering my head. I love your technique. I was wondering if you would be doing tutorials in the future? It would be so helpful for other women like myself who are new to head covering. Thanks.

    :)

  • wow Im muslim and if I ever went to a court and they said I had to remove my scarf I would definately LEAVE Im pretty sure thats against the law-I know on my license pic I wear my scarf, anyways most court house have metal detectors

  • i wear a head covering because i am married in the bible in 1 cor. it states that women who comited adultery or were prostitutes had there hair cut short it is a total modesty thing . in 1 cor it also says that he praises those people that still follow the teachings of wearing a head covering when you are married many people believe that jesus died so we are under new law

  • hmm yes..when in fact God looks at the heart and this extra clothing means nothing to Him..

  • @fanoflittleman You're right. If one does it in a spirit of legalism than nothing is gained. But if one's heart moves one to be obedient to what one believes the Bible and/or church teaches, then there's something lost in not doing so. One could see it as a symbol of obedience or rather willingness to be obedient.

  • @fanoflittleman covering could also be Christ as the covering?

  • @fanoflittleman It could. Sure, why not? Maybe wearing a piece of cloth could be a reminder that Christ is the covering and to try to behave accordingly.

  • why would a christian woman want to look like a muslim?

  • @fanoflittleman Good question. It's less "wanting to look like a Muslim," and more wanting to follow what one believes the Bible to say and/or church tradition to teach. Looking like a Muslim is a coincidence. For more thoughts on this topic, see my video "But I look like a Muslim!"

  • @fanoflittleman

    whats wrong with looking like a muslim?

  • @CaligirlSofia Why are w looking at the mosem womanl??? lets leave them alone cos it has nothing to do with covering our hair as a chistian woman cos christiam wman was coveringtheir hair way before th islam religion. They keep up according to thier quran and lets keep up according to our bible. If i have common thingwith a mosle woman whic is covering good we r both modest andto be fair mosle womanshouldnt be judge cos they overthier head cos tey do it fo th same reason as we r trying to do.

  • @fanoflittleman Something to note, I think, is that Christians were practicing this some 600 years before Islam ever arrived on the scene. We were doing it first.

  • @Doulos7608 But it isn't actually a Christian or Muslim thing. Is was a commandment from God. Remember the jews were commanded to do it as well.

    Wouldn't it be better for everyone if we were following the commandments of God?

  • nice point! I'm a Muslim But I've always lived in Arab countries, But I can imagine how (head covering) woman suffer from people giving them the weird "terrorist - criminal - outsider) kinda look!

    people should start accepting others just the way they are!! where is the freedom in people feeling they wcan't wear certain stuff in a certain way!!

  • I don't think the face should be covered. That is how you identify people. Period. As for covering the hair, I've served on a jury with my hair covered and flown and no one said anything about it to me. If they had I might have asked for a private room to uncover but it never came up so ~shrug~.

  • I just started covering my head and I plan on dressing very modestly, I felt God commanding me to do this for my dedication to Christ. I think Christian women and Muslim women who cover their heads should have that right upheld unless the circumstance is outstanding and very unusual.

  • I would say it depends on the type of covering as to when it would be permissable. The full face veil would be foolish and dangerous (can't tell if male or female), if truly a head covering then the courts and such should deal with it as they would any other reasonable article of clothing, ignore it. I supose it could be argued that a woman officer can pull the woman aside to ensure nothing is hidden in the scarf, perserving modesty and enabling the woman to remain covered

  • Wow that was really interesting (minus the tidbit at the start maybe lol). I had never thought about this issue from that perspective.

  • I don't see the difference in a ball cap and head scarf. I wouldn't do anything to get myself in trouble over the head scarf, but I would explain that I was wearing it for my own personal religious beliefs.

  • God bless you! I think its gr8 when i see a Christian women wearing scarves, veils, Etc. I always respected Muslim women who wear them and this makes me very happy to see you wearing it. Mashallah!

  • Peace be with you, sister. i think it depends on how you view the covering. Some women feel that it is only for prayer or service. But I think that His authority extends everywhere and if you feel that you wear it under His authority then we have the perfe tly 1st amendment justified religious right to do so. i just know that you shouldnt let anyone MAKE u take it off. If you feel its not as important.. then u know.. u make that choice. never let them make u take it off it u feel u must wear it

  • If I was at an airport or court room, I probably would not have an issue with taking off my covering, but I would probably state that it is for religious reasons. If they just wanted to check it, I would ask for a more secluded area ( I should state that I am a nondenominational Christian, I where the tichel type covering). Oh and I would make sure not to wear metal hair pins LOL

  • I think it all depends on the situation. We had an issue in OK with them not letting a Muslim woman wear her hijab for a drivers lic, even though there was no specific wording for religious reasons. I think in that situation the only reason they should be asked to remove is IF it covers the face. I have taken off my covering out of respect for my hubby's abuela's funeral because I did not want to draw attention to my head. (see next comment)

  • Actually the argument for the ID issue is really foolish on the part of DMV or whatever agency it is. Your "face" is what is recognized by ID software not your hair, so therefore anyone's conviction needs to be left alone and allowed because it is simply your 1st amendment right period.

  • I didn't have a problem at school, but in the bank I get looked weird when I have it on. I don't know why they think because you wear a head scarf you are a terrorist or something, I mean do just muslim's wear it? Even if muslim's widely wear it I think if we do want to wear it we should. It isn't like we are going around naked or something, seriously!

  • But going aroung naked would be less weird, as long as you're sufficiently skinny! As evidence, I offer the covers of magazines in every grocery store checkout line.

  • If it is a head covering, we should have rights for "religious" reasons. I believe a face covering (veil) is different, it's like wearing a mask & I'll have to think about that one. What I don't understand is the women who wear the head covering or veil and then wear tons of make-up, it kind of defeats the purpose. Also from my understanding, the scarfs are tied/worn differently between jewish and muslim women. For christian women I have seen them wear the scarf both ways.

  • I also was called for jury duty but ended up not serving due to health reasons. However, about headcovering, on the form when they ask if there are any special accomidations they need to make for you, perhaps you could list your headcovering. I'd be curious to see what the response would be. Perhaps they would disqualify you. Just my personal opinion, but my obedience to God would come before my obedience to the government.

  • I had jury duty and they asked me to take my covering off in the courtroom. So my husband advised just default to your hair which is your natural covering. The idea behind the practice is to show that you accept your place in creation as a woman and not try to be a man. In Corinth the head covering was used to apply that principle. Today we can wear skirts instead of pants etc and a feminine hairstyle. So if they asked me to remove I decide to be humble and not make anyone uncomfortable.

  • I really respect that reasoning. You made me rethink: If my husband or and Orthodox clergyman asked me to remove it, okay, I would. Personally, I don't feel like the secular authority has or should have that power over me. But that's not really the issue, as you frame it. (I'm just stubborn.) And you have a really good point.

  • I am Eastern Orthodox as well. If I have a question about something I generally default to my husband or spiritual father, then go from there, I try to trust that God will guide and protect me through them just like he protected Sarah from the Pharoe (sp) when Abraham told him she was his sister and not his wife. Like St Peter said you are her daughters if you act in this way without fear. So that is my reasoning for that. I agree the secular does not have that authority. Great videos :)

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  • i just started to cover myself and i feel sorry for muslim women who are looked at crazy for doing what their religion asks of them . if it were nuns they would respect their covering.

  • The cultural double standard re: nuns is an interesting point. I think our culture expects all women to make ourselves available for public scruntiny (so we can be convinced of how we don't measure up and thus be sold things to fix us). So it's okay for nuns, they're off limits, set apart. But for everyone else, to be covered is somehow offensive. Just my theory.

  • I veil all the time everyday that I go out ... I would insist until the word insist runs out ...lol... I know I am trying in my videos ..... Peace of Christ be with you

  • I feel women should wear it if they feel called to do so .I myself wear one all the time and I love them .If someone told me to take my headcovering off,I would not be comfortable with that.I would have to say no to them .

  • I think first of all it is up to our HUSBANDS how we wear our covering or when we wear our covring. We are free as Christians. I will take mine off durring court or to get checked if needed. Unlike other religions we are not sinning or being unfaithful to G-D if we take it off for something like that. My dauhters go to school and I will NOT make them cover their head there unless it is a holy day. When they are MARRIED they will cover. They always Cover for Mass and for Holy Days anyway. xoxo

  • I agree that we're not sinning in taking it off. Good point. I'm really interested in what people feel the line is - How much clothing can we be forced to remove? Also I'm curious - If your daughters wanted to cover at school and got in trouble or were harassed for it, what would you do? (I hope you don't think I'm being rude, I'm really interested in how people feel about this.)

  • My girls do cover at school on Holy Days, and durring Lent, and the schools can't do anything about it. I always call the schools and let them know what's going on, and they say "Okay"- they have to. There are beautiful Muslim girls that cover their heads all the time and they are allowed b/c it is for religous reasons. Same with my girls. If my daughters want to cover other than for Holy Days etc...I will make sure that their rights are upheld to the "T". ;)

  • Last year, for about 3 months my oldest daughter wanted to cover full time, and the school couldn't do a thing about it. We wear bluejeans, with shirts that cover our bums, I wear makeup, and cover my head. Now if I am wearing a pretty coveriing, and I don't want to take it off or I feel like I am being MADE to take it off, then I will have a say in that. If I am asked to take it off nicely, I will take it off, let them search, and then I will put it back on-- a covering is NOT a hat.Thats crazy

  • In answer to the question, I wd say that we shd insist, if we feel compelled b/the Spirit, on wearing our headcvrng in public places, even government buildings. One of our inalienable rights as Americans is freedom of religion, so, if pagans can wear pentacles & robes in such places, we should be allowed to cover our heads.

  • though I am not a Christian head cover wearing woman, I think you should be able to wear whatever you like in a court room when your beliefs are in play.

    What I don't understand is how state and church can mix when it isn't appropriate, then why is it not appropriate in a court room?

    You aren't wearing a disrespectful hat. You're wearing a headscarf that means a lot to you in reference to your beliefs.

  • What if your head covering is meant to invoke Ridicule ... I know I am special lol and not female so not sure how much I can speak on this ... In some places hats are not allowed nor anything else cover the head. Schools are one and some churches and I can respect the rules of a place when I set foot on it. Now what I hated is being a student in high school where there is a double standard according to gender on what can and cannot be worn on ones head. Bandanas are only permitted by females

  • You have a point. The double standard is based on the Christian custom, and in a secular institution, that could be a problem.

  • It really hits home when you say if we tolerate it for one we should for all and if we do so ... there will just be more tolerance in general. All sounds very good to me and in my spiritual path these are the tactics we often use to bring about change. It is my ideal to end double standards ... Christian, Muslim or whatever if you want to wear something over your hair be my guest.

  • That being said I have my own problem with women who "cover up" but that is not going make me stop them from doing what they want. My issues come from the Victorian Hypocrisy / Effect and/or if it is not their choice to do so. I believe these issues are deeper than symbolism, or ritual matters ... I think they run deeper into the religion itself and the cultures and many times the practices can be made into something that is destructive in nature... sorry I got a lot to say on the subject ...

  • Make a video response! I'd like to hear it.

  • i can understand why a court room would ask that a burker be removed as you cant see their face, only their eyes.. its ignorence of the difference between hijab and a burker, though both look beautiful... if a sheik can wear his head covering and a hindu can wear his then why not a christian woman.. i see nothing wrong in a public or legal setting the use of a head covering provided it doesnt cover the complete face for security reasons

  • I am glad you said Christian women. That might save some of us men:)

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