I had the exacta $1,979.60. See it Jimfromearth . I forgot to bring my SS card had to come back but so what. In hit a few other good exactas but this one was real nice.
@GBeret83 I seem to remember you deserted Workforce too prior to the Arc.I wrote to you about it.You seem like a fair weather friend.Canford Cliffs is a monster but I doubt he possesses Goldikova`s track versatility.History has shown that older horses can become stale.Freddie Head has done well to keep his mare sweet for so long.
She is just so much more interesting than Zenyatta. She may have lost more than one race, but she's been around the world, raced on different surfaces, and against the boys. Goldikova is bloody awesome.
@emmelby Comparitively speaking she was well ahead of Zenyatta. And she was soundly beaten each time by Zarkava, who received a high RPR 2 lbs less than Goldikova. Work that one out. I guess they think she improved since the went head to head? Damn therehave been some great females in the last few years. Zarkava, Goldikova, Zenyatta, Sunline, Makybe Diva, Rachel Alexandra, Black Caviar.... when are they going to rethink the set-weights imposts? ;)
@bgardiner2000 Zarkava = amazing! I'm not going to rise to the imposts bait, because I actually agree with you. A mare Sunline's size could quite easily cruise around with a wee mare's weight on her back. For a giant like Zenyatta, it'd be lke a horsefly. Personally, I'd be happy if all weights went up, regardless of the quality of the field. I'm more concerned about the use of drugs amongst jockeys trying to keep weight down. It's not like a horse can't carry 5kg more.
@emmelby It's not a crazy idea but it wouldn;t solve the problem. All that would happen is that riders who presently are "naturally" 65kg that can't make sub-55kg allowances would replace the existing riders that are naturally 60kg's and have to use diuretics and the like to make light weights. The current system also provides opportunities for apprentices and young riders on the light-weight chance. It's a good idea in theory, but in practice it would only create different problems.
@bgardiner2000 The current system gives young riders a go, but by raising the weights, it limits the bleeding you get when those riders age and are no longer able to manage light weights. It wouldn't have a huge impact on apprentices, a 4kg claim is still 4kg, whether you're meant to be carrying 55 or 60. I'm not talking about diuretics, I'm talking about meth and speed. It's an issue that is ignored, until someone gets caught and made an example of, then it gets swept under the rug again.
is it weird that im not afraid to ride a150 cc dirt bike up a steep rutted out muddy hill but im afraid to ride a horse espacialy if i want to become a jockey
when she wins in 2011 they certainly should give her HOY for her 4 years of domination, without avoiding anyone or any track,something z never did yet was awarded the top prize---nothing else need to be said----
I dearly love Goldikova, and I'm glad she's coming back for a shot at a 4th B.C. Mile. But I would like to see her go out of her comfort zone headed back to the Breeders Cup. She did go to the Queen Anne at Ascot this year. But she usually goes Prix Rothschild, Prix Jacques Le Moire, then Prix De La Foret in route to America. As great as Goldy is on the turf. I'd love to see her go to the Dubai Duty Free. 9f is well within her compass, and she'd be a huge draw in Dubai. JMO.
When ever I'm down I watch a great horse race - and this was one that made me hoarse from screaming - what an incredible mare she is, she's truly GOLD.
Well FYI they got beat all weekend, inclusive of turf, Bekhabad, Debussy, Together, Flood Plain, Midday, Miss Keller, Red Desire, Hibaayeb, amongst others got whooped over and over again, if theyre so great you think they might compete a little better on TURF.
..did in her first 19.If I thought an American horse was superior I would say so.The best horses in the late 90's and early 2000's were U.S and I have NO problem saying so.Things now though are different and some credit where credit is due would be at least a start.Zen is a superb horse but there is nothing at all to show how she is the best mare around when she was so over protected in her career.For pure pace Goldikova would have gobbled her up.Her acceleration was majestic beating the BEST.
...are on this side of the Atlantic then we'll have more time for you.Sea The Stars would have to have given Zenyatta nearly a stone in a handicap yet you lot slaughter him for not going to the vastly overrated BC.Why the fuck didn't the Mosses have some real balls and go to last years Arc?He was the best so all comers to his crown should have to go to him,not go to race a mare who was nearly a stone inferior.The Arc is worth more money than the Classic and STS won more in 9 races than Zen....
Careful europeans to jumping off the cliff with jumping up and down about your Euro group of horses because on the whole Breeders cup weekend, they got beaten down. There was something like 17 Euro, Japanese, and S american shippers and Goldikova was the only winner
@caz11533 Amazing ain't it??NOT ONE FUCKING YANK EVEN ATTEMPTED TO RUN IN EUROPE THIS YEAR.Your all full of shit idiots who think the world starts in New York and ends in L.A.Face facts 8 of the top 11 horses on this planet at the moment are European,the best being the recently retired Harbinger who was rated 135.Where was the mighty Zenyatta?125,not so special afterall.When you get off your assess and take on the best instead of thinking we have to go to you all the time when the best horses..
@caz11533 FYI euro horses are better than US. Euro only run on grass so that is why they perform bad on dirt and rarely run in dirt races. If you look at the last two years of the BC when it was run on synthetics you will see euro's dominated.
i gotta say im a huge zen fan but if they voted goldi for HOTY i would not be dissapointed, the only way i will be dissapointed and think nothing of the award is if its given to blame
Goldikova is awesome, but don't make the mistake of saying she is superior to Zenyatta. Yes, Goldi faced tougher comp on average, but she also faltered in a race or two and couldn't beat Zarkava. Goldi also couldn't travel well beyond 1m. So you arrogant Euros should think twice before assuming she is somehow "better" than Zenyatta. They are both brilliant mares who have had different types of careers.
Sea The Stars vs Zarkava would have been a contender for the greatest Arc match up ever but it wasnt to be.
I dont blame them for retiring Zarkava, what she done as a 3yo will never be matched again by a filly. Theres no reason why she wouldnt have trained on and improved as a 4yo but you never know with fillies and retiring her was the right decision. She went out as the best horse in the world and we know this because the Euros cleaned up at the BC that year and she was a class apart
@dessiesdoneit Totally agree. I couldn't help but feel disappointed when they were both retired after a combined career of 14 starts. I understood that Harbinger was forced to retire. But STS & Zarkava were both sound. Let them race on I say! The sport needs it's idols. I for 1 would have loved to have seen what she'd have done at 4. Same with STS. One horse that I think will be very interesting to see next year is So Yo Think the Aus champ. IMO the next big thing at 10F, if AO is any good.
As for the Goldikova Zarkava debate, its a non starter.
Goldikova is a great miler but Zarkava beat her comfortably over a mile and 1m2. I know Goldikova has improved since then but remeber how she won the BC Mile as a 3yo. She was a great 3yo who would have won the French Guineas in any other year.
I know Americans cant seem to understand but anyone from Europe will tell you, Zarkava had more natural class and is the greater of the 2.
Goldikova is the best miler on grass. Period. Could she beat other horses at a longer distance and on dirt? Doesn't matter. I doubt those horses could beat her on the grass at a mile so the argument is a wash IMO. This is her speciality and she is the best.
@sepul071200 useless at winning??Won 3 Group 1's and was unfortunate to run into one of the greatest race mares of all time.Would have won 7 if Goldikova wasnt around.So please re-educate yourself in horse racing because your comments have made you sound like an ignorant and useless prick.
@sonofscrewcap i love pricks like you......whats with the insults ???
you could have just told me im in the wrong.....but no....u hide behind a laptop or comp to insult me ??
i fucking love you to say that to my face you fucking spotty little twat....i piss down your throat and cut you up so bad you parents would not even recognise you.
i think your over rating goldikova myself....
it helps her that there is only 2 other decent horses at this trip with her and she is best of the 3,
@sepul071200 you called me Canadian lol.....brilliant deduction on your part.
Im English you retard.I live in Abingdon,Oxfordshire UK.And i certainly dont hide behind my laptop.So if you wish me to send you a private message with my address,dont hesitate to ask.
How can you over-rate a horse that has won 12 Group/Grade 1,s and is the only horse in 27 runnings of the BC to win 3 races.
@sepul071200 Lol boy.I see you are from Liverpool.I am originally from there too.Best thing i have ever done was move from that stinking hole.Bunch of uneducated,illiterate low-lives.It truly is the toilet of Britain and a disgusting stain on the UK.But hey it obviously works for an ignorant,uneducated,jobless fool like you.
By the way i loved the bit about my children and i dying of A.I.D.S. lol.Nice touch doelite.
Is it me or does it seem like Goldikova runs these days as if she stays further? She was backward in her 3yo days and maybe, just maybe she'll get 10f. She did set a track record over a distance just over 9f this year, so maybe.....
@ApatheticLeader She wont get further than 9f m8, to set a track record at that distance means nothing in Europe, its a void distance, no one runs it.
And that day she put the race to bed 2 out, by cruising away from the Prince Of Wales winner Byword and she was easing up towards the finish. She is an out and out miler and one of the best ive seen, definately the best mile filly ive seen.
Though older brigade will tell you, Brigadier Gerrard was the best miler of all time.
@dessiesdoneit It's definitely a rarely run distance in Europe, but Manduro, Falbrav and Observatory have all won the D'Ispahan in the last 10 years, so good horses do run over the distance, however rare it is. And I know Byword was catching Goldikova in the final 100m but she still won handily enough. Maybe I'm being overoptimistic and going on how strongly she sees 8f out.
@ApatheticLeader Manduro was a great horse, he really came into his own as a 5yo and is probably the best older horse ive seen in Europe over the last few years. It was a tragedy when he picked up a career ending injury after winning his arc trial on the bridle because he would have beat Dylan Thomas that year as easily as he beat him at Ascot earlier in the season.
@dessiesdoneit Agree Zarkava was a wonderful athlete but she was always going to peak as a 3yo due to her size.She practically looked like a colt and eventhough as you say Goldikova won the BC as a 3yo I don't think Zarkava would have had it all her own way had they met as 4 and 5yolds.To me though Zarkava isn't the best filly in our generation.That accolade goes to Pebbles who in her 5yo season beat the winners of the Derby,Arc,Juddemont ,Irish Champion,English Champion,Oaks,Arlington Million..
@dessiesdoneit ..Hollywood Gold Cup and Breeders Cup Turf and incidently was rated 135 by Timeform.Zarkava was rated 132.Only Allez France was rated higher on 136.Just wish Zarkava's connections came to England so we could have seen her in the flesh(same as Zenyatta I suppose)but I do understand her retirement as so many brilliant 3yo fillies don't really train on.It's the unfurnished 3yolds such as Goldikova and Midday that do.Also though I don't think Zarkava was better than my poersonal fav..
@dessiesdoneit ..and that of her trainer H.Cecil in Bosra Sham.Look at the fillies he trained from Oh So Sharp to Ramruma to Midday and he rates her the best horse he ever trained.Her Champion Stakes/Prince Of Wales Stakes victories were devastating and she was the best looking filly you will ever see.The argument could go on and on but to me the greatest fillies of all time are the legendry Pretty Polly and Sceptre whose records will never be equalled.
I have to say..she's awesome..Here in the states we don't get to see the great ones face the males as much as the euros. as the euros have no problem racing the girls with the boys...Although, I suppose the proper surace has much to do with that...In the end...the "great" ones could run on glass and win...Turcotte said secretariat was 6 lenghts better on the turf...and Zenyatta proved she could run with the boys on dirt...would have loved to seen her on the turf...not to mention affirmed..
I have to say..she's awesome..Here in the states we don't get to see the great ones face the males as much as the euros. as the euros have no problem racing the girls with the boys...Although, I suppose the proper surace has much to do with that...In the end...the "great" ones could run on glass and win...Turcotte said secretariat was 6 lenghts better on the turf...and Zenyatta proved she could run with the boys on dirt...would have loved to seen her on the turf...not to mention affirmed..
I have to say..she's awesome..Here in the states we don't get to see the great ones face the males as much as the euros. as the euros have no problem racing the girls with the boys...Although, I suppose the proper surace has much to do with that...In the end...the "great" ones could run on glass and win...Turcotte said secretariat was 6 lenghts better on the turf...and Zenyatta proved she could run with the boys on dirt...would have loved to seen her on the turf...not to mention affirmed..
Once Olivier Peslier set Goldikova in motion. There was never a doubt who the Breeders Cup Mile winner was going to be. Gio Ponti ran about as well as he's capable of running. But Goldikova is just simply in a class all her own at this distance on turf. The only time Goldikova ever get's beaten at a mile on the turf is if she run's up against ground that doesn't suite. Like her and Paco Boy both ran up against at Deauville. When Makfi beat both on very soft ground in the Prix Jacques Le Marois.
Zarkava has done this is extraordinary and I remain confident that we have seen a filly to legend, the best for a very long time! gold is a beautiful mare 1 miles I would have liked to see cons Rock of Gibraltar was for me the best miler before her for 20 years. lol!
Brilliant stuff for Goldikova as always, the American race style really suits her but she can win anywhere, from any position in a race. She is rare in that sense, that you can put her anywhere in a race and her turn of foot is second to none. She was no match for Zarkava in her 3yo career but she has improved alot since then and she goes down in history as the only horse to win 3 consecutive BC races.
But for the record, Brigadier Gerrard is the best miler ever.
Remarkable win from a remarkable mare. Still think that Zarkava is the best filly/mare I have ever seen though she always had the better of Goldikova, But what this mare as done since is nothing short of exceptional and she thoroughly deserves everything she gets after this shes utterly brilliant! Never dodged the opposition and consistently beat them...
@ASupremeOwl Goldikova as improved tremendously since Zarkava beat her in the Poule and that race was not as cut and dry as some people try to make out, it is unfair to keep saying Goldie was put in her place by Zarkava, when F Head said himself that Goldikova was more backward than Zarkava as a 3 year old, some people wish to boost Zarkava form on the back of Goldi archievements at 4 & 5, but Goldi at 4 & 5 would have distroyed the Goldi in that Poule, so you cannot compare the 2 now.
I'm from the USA and I give this mare all the kudos, she deserves them. Unlike Zenyattas connections who for 3 years evaded running against males on real dirt this mares connections did not dodge or evade anyone. They consistently sought out the best competition in her disclipline and they consistently beat them. In fact if it were me, Goldikova would be my vote for Eclipse award older HOY even with just this one race.
@duhru4real GREATEST ZENYATTA would have been destroyed if she ran in shorter races,so fucking what?GREATEST ZENYATTA would have been destroyed had she raced over further,so fucking what?Both of them ran over their preferred trip on their preferred surface.One won,one lost.Tough shit.
@bluetiege I totally agree with that what we are looking at is a mare in Goldi with 8 wins vs males, Rachel has 3 wins vs males, easily the most impressive females we've seen on the track in a very long time, taking on males and beating them consistently is what a true test of a champion race mare. Kudos to her connections for not being scared to take on and beat the best over and over again, not ducking due to surface or wanting to take on optional claimers or allowance horses. HOY Goldikova
The best mare in the world, and unlike Zenyatta her connections did not choose cookie cutter schedules for her racing mostly against cupcakes. Blame is an ok older male, but he's no monster and Zenyatta could not even beat him. This mare has unreal acceleration. wow
@BlackHorse0688 No mate that goes to Zarkava, Remember Zarkava always had the better of her. What she as done since is remarkable though and I take My hat off to her...
@ASupremeOwl Zarkava only once beat Godi over a mile, but thad day Godi was a real madam, she did throw the Jockey at the start refused to go into the stalls and was down on her nose when the gates opened she was lucky to get back in the race at all but she came second, the only other time these 2 horses met was over 11F a distance Goldi does not stay, Zarkava was a very big filly for her age but Goldi was not, Zarkava never raced out side of France and only once raced away from Longchamp >>>
@kelletman We can argue to the sun comes home about who the better was, The facts remain that Zarkava retired undefeated. Beat Goldikova in there one meet over a mile at the first time of asking, Was the first filly to win the Arc in nearly 15 years aswell as two classics to her name and 5 group ones in her career retiring on a timeform rating of 133 exactly the same as Goldi who as won more group ones. I dont like to take anything away from Goldi Im a big fan. Its just IMO Zarkava was better...
@ASupremeOwl Should that be cows not sun? never mind, Zharkava remained undefeated like you said, but she retired as a 3 year old where as Goldi stayed in training and proved her self at 4 & 5 and her owners deserve alot of credit for that unlike the owners of Zarkava who was a course specialist at Longchamp then packed of to stud at the first opportunity, it is very unfair to keep bringing Goldi 3 year old form up as she is not the same horse and as proved that time and time again.
@kelletman ha yeah it meant to be cows, No idea where sun came from there. IMO Zarkava is the best filly I've seen for a long long time. Theres no point comparing Zarkava and Goldikova because Zarkava retired at a different age, I can only go on when She was racing Goldikova when she was a 3 year old and she didnt lose in the time they met. Zarkava beat Goldikova at a mile which is Goldikova's specialist distance these days. Then Zarkava won the Diane and Arc two of frances classic races...
@ASupremeOwl the paddock look at other great mares Time Charter 2nd in the Guinness, Oaks winner, King George winner, Dubai Champion Stakes winner, Champion mare for 3 seasons, top class brood mare. Pebbles first try at 1 1/2m smashed the course record in Breeders Cup by 1 1/5 seconds in a time of 2.27 seconds, she was awarded the Eclipse Award on the back of that 1 run, Ouija Board won G1 races all over the world against colts including the Hong Kong Vase, Oaks,Breeders and many more >>
@ASupremeOwl , these are just a few of the giants of our sport that proved them self as older horse on many different tracks, their owners should be applauded for keeping them in training and not packing them off to the paddock at the first opportunity. Yes Zarkava was a great horse on one track for one season, See The Stars was better because he won in Ireland, England and France, he was a colt so it is understandable that he went to stud.
@kelletman Zarkava would have probably won in Ireland or England had she raced there... How can You say she might not have? Anyone who crossed her was disposed off and I am confident in saying she would have done that on any track in Europe. Ouija Board was a brilliant horse but as timeform shows Zarkava is rated on par with Indian Skimmer and Miesque now that is high company both better horses than anyone You have just named. I mean the mighty Zarkava disposed of 5 time group one winner...
@kelletman Duke of Marmalade in the Arc, Aswell as Henry the Navigator and New Approach both group one winners. How timeform rated Curlin higher than Zarkava is beyond Me, He wouldnt have been able to stay in her slipstream in the her 3 year old year. Besides the point, Both Goldi and Zarkava are brilliant fillys. I look forward to following the flat season again next year, Fingers crossed that Frankel is as good as everyone thinks He is, I've followed him with interest and Im very hopeful..
@ASupremeOwl It was Goldikova who beat Henrythenavigator not Zarkave, then Henry went on to finish in front of Curling in the BCC. New Aproach never ran against Zarkava, yes Zarkava did beat Duke of Marmalade but DOM did not run up to his best in the Arc as Solder of Fortune 12/1 It's Gino 150/1 and Ask 33/1 also finished infont of Duke Of Marmalade in that years Arc, I am not saying Zarkava was a very good horse but she was wrapped in cotton wool compared to many horses and retired early.
@kelletman Zarkava proved herself over many distances and won and that for Me makes her the better of the two. Goldikova is without doubt the best miler I've seen but like I said earlier we can't say what else Zarkava would have done she was retired and quite rightly, She was the best horse in the world at the time. Goldikova carried on and as made herself a racing legend and I can't say anymore that that..
@ASupremeOwl I agree with you up to a point, Zarkava did win from a mile to 1 1/2m but she was a massive 3 year old and was getting the full weight for age allowance from the older horses, If I had my way the Derby and Arc would be for 4 year olds and upwards then we would see who was the best, no horse needs to retire as a 3 year old 99% of the time it is done for commercial reasons only, I can understand the reasons behind retiring a colt but the fillies can earn as much on the track than in>
@BlackHorse0688 - I would Agree with you she IS phenomenol, BUT You are wrong. Zarkava is the Greatest, and would have broken ANY record Goldikova has. Zarkava made EASY work of Goldikova on previous encounters. It is just too bad their owners retired her, and she will now go to breed with Sea to the Stars. But PLEASE don't think I am here to disrespect this Champion Mare..... I am Certainly NOT. Cheers.
@BlackHorse0688 - Just think how good Zarkava was when she blew past Goldi like she was standing still!. So think carefully next time you wanna ignorantly state the not so obvious!. ZARKAVA is the BEST Turf Filly EVER!.
@Nucleo85Torino She was brilliant Nucleo and has just given birth to a healthy colt by the greatest, STS.However,I would personally have Zarkava about 4th or 5th in the rankings.My reasons are stated below,just go back a page or two.Regards.
@BlackHorse0688 Check out YouTube 'Frankel 2000 Guineas'. Breeders Cup Mile winner? maybe Looks an awesome miler. Wheter or not he'll get the longer distances who knows, If not I'd back him for the Breeders Cup Turf mile.....
@kingsindiandefence Agreed it was an impressive performance. Not sure though that Churchill Downs would suit him though. Who know how good he'll be come the BC's next year. He's still got a ways to go before you culd mention hi in te same breath as Goldkova though.
@bgardiner2000 Goldikova is about to race against Canford Cliffs in The Queen Anne stakes. The Richard hannon Horse is favourite, promises to be a cracking race....I'm sad, she had first run, fought like a tiger but he went by her.
@kingsindiandefence everyone hates to see a champion lose. The way she fought showed her class. the other horse just had too much and that should tell you a lot that he was favourite to win before the race.
@kingsindiandefence she did lose to canford cliffs but i bet you a pound to a penny that she will make it 4 breeders cup mile wins, that is the focus not canford cliffs, let Frankel take care of Canford but Sir Henry take Quealy off him or he will ruin him. goldi is a true great and not done yet trust me
@kingsindiandefence Id imagine Frankel will comee over for a BC race, afterall he is named after a famous American trainer. The worry id have are the tracks they have over there, there very tight left handed tracks. First of all Frankel has never raced left handed, and secondly it takes a very versatile horse to act on American tracks, as they are ridiculously sharp. Goldikova apears to thrive on these tracks, wether Frankel or even Canford Cliffs will, only time will tell.
Oops! Make that the BC mile 2011
jimfromearth 2 months ago
I had the exacta $1,979.60. See it Jimfromearth . I forgot to bring my SS card had to come back but so what. In hit a few other good exactas but this one was real nice.
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jaedunn1 4 months ago
I hope Goldi will win the Mile again this year :D
CandyAndy3467 4 months ago
@CandyAndy3467 She earned third. I still have a lot of respect for her though!
21Sarabi 4 months ago
@21Sarabi I've watched the race of 2011 five minutes ago. I'm very sad about the result.
But she gave her best, and that's the most important thing ^_^
CandyAndy3467 4 months ago
Seriously the worst film job... I hope it's better this year!
Brburton17 4 months ago
Tiny mare...Big heart <3
saramadi100 4 months ago
I hope she comes back to breeders' again! And if she does i'll be rooting!
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GBeret83 8 months ago
@GBeret83 I seem to remember you deserted Workforce too prior to the Arc.I wrote to you about it.You seem like a fair weather friend.Canford Cliffs is a monster but I doubt he possesses Goldikova`s track versatility.History has shown that older horses can become stale.Freddie Head has done well to keep his mare sweet for so long.
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GBeret83 8 months ago
She won her prep race today! She's back for 2011!
ajbonney 9 months ago
She is just so much more interesting than Zenyatta. She may have lost more than one race, but she's been around the world, raced on different surfaces, and against the boys. Goldikova is bloody awesome.
emmelby 10 months ago
@emmelby Comparitively speaking she was well ahead of Zenyatta. And she was soundly beaten each time by Zarkava, who received a high RPR 2 lbs less than Goldikova. Work that one out. I guess they think she improved since the went head to head? Damn therehave been some great females in the last few years. Zarkava, Goldikova, Zenyatta, Sunline, Makybe Diva, Rachel Alexandra, Black Caviar.... when are they going to rethink the set-weights imposts? ;)
bgardiner2000 10 months ago
@bgardiner2000 Zarkava = amazing! I'm not going to rise to the imposts bait, because I actually agree with you. A mare Sunline's size could quite easily cruise around with a wee mare's weight on her back. For a giant like Zenyatta, it'd be lke a horsefly. Personally, I'd be happy if all weights went up, regardless of the quality of the field. I'm more concerned about the use of drugs amongst jockeys trying to keep weight down. It's not like a horse can't carry 5kg more.
emmelby 10 months ago
@emmelby It's not a crazy idea but it wouldn;t solve the problem. All that would happen is that riders who presently are "naturally" 65kg that can't make sub-55kg allowances would replace the existing riders that are naturally 60kg's and have to use diuretics and the like to make light weights. The current system also provides opportunities for apprentices and young riders on the light-weight chance. It's a good idea in theory, but in practice it would only create different problems.
bgardiner2000 10 months ago
@bgardiner2000 The current system gives young riders a go, but by raising the weights, it limits the bleeding you get when those riders age and are no longer able to manage light weights. It wouldn't have a huge impact on apprentices, a 4kg claim is still 4kg, whether you're meant to be carrying 55 or 60. I'm not talking about diuretics, I'm talking about meth and speed. It's an issue that is ignored, until someone gets caught and made an example of, then it gets swept under the rug again.
emmelby 10 months ago
goldikova deserved the 2010 HOTY
xxcrystlecityxx 1 year ago
is it weird that im not afraid to ride a150 cc dirt bike up a steep rutted out muddy hill but im afraid to ride a horse espacialy if i want to become a jockey
MrMotoxracer8 1 year ago
when she wins in 2011 they certainly should give her HOY for her 4 years of domination, without avoiding anyone or any track,something z never did yet was awarded the top prize---nothing else need to be said----
ps525984 1 year ago
Goldi, you are a freak! That explosive turn of foot never ceases to amaze me.
bellaserene 1 year ago
I dearly love Goldikova, and I'm glad she's coming back for a shot at a 4th B.C. Mile. But I would like to see her go out of her comfort zone headed back to the Breeders Cup. She did go to the Queen Anne at Ascot this year. But she usually goes Prix Rothschild, Prix Jacques Le Moire, then Prix De La Foret in route to America. As great as Goldy is on the turf. I'd love to see her go to the Dubai Duty Free. 9f is well within her compass, and she'd be a huge draw in Dubai. JMO.
GBeret83 1 year ago
When ever I'm down I watch a great horse race - and this was one that made me hoarse from screaming - what an incredible mare she is, she's truly GOLD.
ajbonney 1 year ago
Goldikova is let loose - she's flying!
LaugherLady 1 year ago 9
Anything over a mile on Turf, and Gio Ponti wins that Race. At a Mile Goldi is simply too good, and has an amazing turn of foot in the stretch.
Nucleo85Torino 1 year ago
thought gio ponti needed more distance..he was doing a bunch of mile 1/4 & 1/2 races earlier in the year to go a mile...i thought was too short
DartsRme312 1 year ago
It's too bad the BC is no longer on NBC, I miss it so much and all the other races
they used to have. I never had cable, never will. I am sick of football and basketball,
especially college. They arn't even pros, who cares unless you know someone
there.
JettRink50 1 year ago
Well FYI they got beat all weekend, inclusive of turf, Bekhabad, Debussy, Together, Flood Plain, Midday, Miss Keller, Red Desire, Hibaayeb, amongst others got whooped over and over again, if theyre so great you think they might compete a little better on TURF.
caz11533 1 year ago
..did in her first 19.If I thought an American horse was superior I would say so.The best horses in the late 90's and early 2000's were U.S and I have NO problem saying so.Things now though are different and some credit where credit is due would be at least a start.Zen is a superb horse but there is nothing at all to show how she is the best mare around when she was so over protected in her career.For pure pace Goldikova would have gobbled her up.Her acceleration was majestic beating the BEST.
guitarlegend32 1 year ago
...are on this side of the Atlantic then we'll have more time for you.Sea The Stars would have to have given Zenyatta nearly a stone in a handicap yet you lot slaughter him for not going to the vastly overrated BC.Why the fuck didn't the Mosses have some real balls and go to last years Arc?He was the best so all comers to his crown should have to go to him,not go to race a mare who was nearly a stone inferior.The Arc is worth more money than the Classic and STS won more in 9 races than Zen....
guitarlegend32 1 year ago
Careful europeans to jumping off the cliff with jumping up and down about your Euro group of horses because on the whole Breeders cup weekend, they got beaten down. There was something like 17 Euro, Japanese, and S american shippers and Goldikova was the only winner
caz11533 1 year ago
@caz11533 Amazing ain't it??NOT ONE FUCKING YANK EVEN ATTEMPTED TO RUN IN EUROPE THIS YEAR.Your all full of shit idiots who think the world starts in New York and ends in L.A.Face facts 8 of the top 11 horses on this planet at the moment are European,the best being the recently retired Harbinger who was rated 135.Where was the mighty Zenyatta?125,not so special afterall.When you get off your assess and take on the best instead of thinking we have to go to you all the time when the best horses..
guitarlegend32 1 year ago
@caz11533 FYI euro horses are better than US. Euro only run on grass so that is why they perform bad on dirt and rarely run in dirt races. If you look at the last two years of the BC when it was run on synthetics you will see euro's dominated.
Hoesgotemall 1 year ago
i gotta say im a huge zen fan but if they voted goldi for HOTY i would not be dissapointed, the only way i will be dissapointed and think nothing of the award is if its given to blame
snapoutofit11 1 year ago
Goldikova is awesome, but don't make the mistake of saying she is superior to Zenyatta. Yes, Goldi faced tougher comp on average, but she also faltered in a race or two and couldn't beat Zarkava. Goldi also couldn't travel well beyond 1m. So you arrogant Euros should think twice before assuming she is somehow "better" than Zenyatta. They are both brilliant mares who have had different types of careers.
jmplays44 1 year ago
Sea The Stars vs Zarkava would have been a contender for the greatest Arc match up ever but it wasnt to be.
I dont blame them for retiring Zarkava, what she done as a 3yo will never be matched again by a filly. Theres no reason why she wouldnt have trained on and improved as a 4yo but you never know with fillies and retiring her was the right decision. She went out as the best horse in the world and we know this because the Euros cleaned up at the BC that year and she was a class apart
dessiesdoneit 1 year ago
@dessiesdoneit Totally agree. I couldn't help but feel disappointed when they were both retired after a combined career of 14 starts. I understood that Harbinger was forced to retire. But STS & Zarkava were both sound. Let them race on I say! The sport needs it's idols. I for 1 would have loved to have seen what she'd have done at 4. Same with STS. One horse that I think will be very interesting to see next year is So Yo Think the Aus champ. IMO the next big thing at 10F, if AO is any good.
bgardiner2000 1 year ago
As for the Goldikova Zarkava debate, its a non starter.
Goldikova is a great miler but Zarkava beat her comfortably over a mile and 1m2. I know Goldikova has improved since then but remeber how she won the BC Mile as a 3yo. She was a great 3yo who would have won the French Guineas in any other year.
I know Americans cant seem to understand but anyone from Europe will tell you, Zarkava had more natural class and is the greater of the 2.
She is the best filly we will ever see
dessiesdoneit 1 year ago
Goldikova is the best miler on grass. Period. Could she beat other horses at a longer distance and on dirt? Doesn't matter. I doubt those horses could beat her on the grass at a mile so the argument is a wash IMO. This is her speciality and she is the best.
Jemsters1 1 year ago
Man, she is a fierce competitor and just amazing!
chixellie1 1 year ago
amazing this......
as i bet u 1 million dollar that paco boy gets revenge on this horse at next years royal ascot.
sepul071200 1 year ago
@sepul071200 Well that would take some effort considering hes now retired.
sonofscrewcap 1 year ago
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sepul071200 1 year ago
@sonofscrewcap i just seen paco boy is now retired,
oh well i guess it will make good dog meat as it was useless at winning.
sepul071200 1 year ago
@sepul071200 useless at winning??Won 3 Group 1's and was unfortunate to run into one of the greatest race mares of all time.Would have won 7 if Goldikova wasnt around.So please re-educate yourself in horse racing because your comments have made you sound like an ignorant and useless prick.
sonofscrewcap 1 year ago
@sonofscrewcap i love pricks like you......whats with the insults ???
you could have just told me im in the wrong.....but no....u hide behind a laptop or comp to insult me ??
i fucking love you to say that to my face you fucking spotty little twat....i piss down your throat and cut you up so bad you parents would not even recognise you.
i think your over rating goldikova myself....
it helps her that there is only 2 other decent horses at this trip with her and she is best of the 3,
sepul071200 1 year ago
@sepul071200 you called me Canadian lol.....brilliant deduction on your part.
Im English you retard.I live in Abingdon,Oxfordshire UK.And i certainly dont hide behind my laptop.So if you wish me to send you a private message with my address,dont hesitate to ask.
How can you over-rate a horse that has won 12 Group/Grade 1,s and is the only horse in 27 runnings of the BC to win 3 races.
sonofscrewcap 1 year ago
@sonofscrewcap well it says canadian on your channel.
u obviously a lying little tramp too.
with any luck you and your children will die of aids slowly and painfully.
the world will be better off without scum like you.
sepul071200 1 year ago
@sepul071200 Lol boy.I see you are from Liverpool.I am originally from there too.Best thing i have ever done was move from that stinking hole.Bunch of uneducated,illiterate low-lives.It truly is the toilet of Britain and a disgusting stain on the UK.But hey it obviously works for an ignorant,uneducated,jobless fool like you.
By the way i loved the bit about my children and i dying of A.I.D.S. lol.Nice touch doelite.
sonofscrewcap 1 year ago
@sonofscrewcap your welcome.
and next time your grubby arse in in liverpool and you wanna pop into freshfields we can catch up for a drink and bit of pain ;-)
sepul071200 1 year ago
@sonofscrewcap It's too easy sometimes isn't it?
bgardiner2000 1 year ago
@sepul071200
bgardiner2000 1 year ago
Wonderful that we'll see her again next year. Fabulous!
Kagefujin 1 year ago
There goes the Wild Irishwoman good for Goldikova she deserved every single one of those wins
dreamershavemorefun 1 year ago
Paco Boy late again.
jonnybeeston 1 year ago
For Goldikova lovers , you will see her running next year , F.Head will keep her on training next year , it was confirmed today....
TOMMY23711 1 year ago 2
Is it me or does it seem like Goldikova runs these days as if she stays further? She was backward in her 3yo days and maybe, just maybe she'll get 10f. She did set a track record over a distance just over 9f this year, so maybe.....
ApatheticLeader 1 year ago
@ApatheticLeader She wont get further than 9f m8, to set a track record at that distance means nothing in Europe, its a void distance, no one runs it.
And that day she put the race to bed 2 out, by cruising away from the Prince Of Wales winner Byword and she was easing up towards the finish. She is an out and out miler and one of the best ive seen, definately the best mile filly ive seen.
Though older brigade will tell you, Brigadier Gerrard was the best miler of all time.
dessiesdoneit 1 year ago
@dessiesdoneit It's definitely a rarely run distance in Europe, but Manduro, Falbrav and Observatory have all won the D'Ispahan in the last 10 years, so good horses do run over the distance, however rare it is. And I know Byword was catching Goldikova in the final 100m but she still won handily enough. Maybe I'm being overoptimistic and going on how strongly she sees 8f out.
ApatheticLeader 1 year ago
@ApatheticLeader Manduro was a great horse, he really came into his own as a 5yo and is probably the best older horse ive seen in Europe over the last few years. It was a tragedy when he picked up a career ending injury after winning his arc trial on the bridle because he would have beat Dylan Thomas that year as easily as he beat him at Ascot earlier in the season.
dessiesdoneit 1 year ago
@dessiesdoneit Agree Zarkava was a wonderful athlete but she was always going to peak as a 3yo due to her size.She practically looked like a colt and eventhough as you say Goldikova won the BC as a 3yo I don't think Zarkava would have had it all her own way had they met as 4 and 5yolds.To me though Zarkava isn't the best filly in our generation.That accolade goes to Pebbles who in her 5yo season beat the winners of the Derby,Arc,Juddemont ,Irish Champion,English Champion,Oaks,Arlington Million..
guitarlegend32 1 year ago
@dessiesdoneit ..Hollywood Gold Cup and Breeders Cup Turf and incidently was rated 135 by Timeform.Zarkava was rated 132.Only Allez France was rated higher on 136.Just wish Zarkava's connections came to England so we could have seen her in the flesh(same as Zenyatta I suppose)but I do understand her retirement as so many brilliant 3yo fillies don't really train on.It's the unfurnished 3yolds such as Goldikova and Midday that do.Also though I don't think Zarkava was better than my poersonal fav..
guitarlegend32 1 year ago
@dessiesdoneit ..and that of her trainer H.Cecil in Bosra Sham.Look at the fillies he trained from Oh So Sharp to Ramruma to Midday and he rates her the best horse he ever trained.Her Champion Stakes/Prince Of Wales Stakes victories were devastating and she was the best looking filly you will ever see.The argument could go on and on but to me the greatest fillies of all time are the legendry Pretty Polly and Sceptre whose records will never be equalled.
guitarlegend32 1 year ago
I have to say..she's awesome..Here in the states we don't get to see the great ones face the males as much as the euros. as the euros have no problem racing the girls with the boys...Although, I suppose the proper surace has much to do with that...In the end...the "great" ones could run on glass and win...Turcotte said secretariat was 6 lenghts better on the turf...and Zenyatta proved she could run with the boys on dirt...would have loved to seen her on the turf...not to mention affirmed..
belmontsar 1 year ago
@belmontsar Zenyatta losing 10 lengths has no chance of starting a race won on the turf of G1 in Europe and even at home!
kirikou441 1 year ago
@kirikou441 Not sure what you were trying so say?
belmontsar 1 year ago
I have to say..she's awesome..Here in the states we don't get to see the great ones face the males as much as the euros. as the euros have no problem racing the girls with the boys...Although, I suppose the proper surace has much to do with that...In the end...the "great" ones could run on glass and win...Turcotte said secretariat was 6 lenghts better on the turf...and Zenyatta proved she could run with the boys on dirt...would have loved to seen her on the turf...not to mention affirmed..
belmontsar 1 year ago
I have to say..she's awesome..Here in the states we don't get to see the great ones face the males as much as the euros. as the euros have no problem racing the girls with the boys...Although, I suppose the proper surace has much to do with that...In the end...the "great" ones could run on glass and win...Turcotte said secretariat was 6 lenghts better on the turf...and Zenyatta proved she could run with the boys on dirt...would have loved to seen her on the turf...not to mention affirmed..
belmontsar 1 year ago
Once Olivier Peslier set Goldikova in motion. There was never a doubt who the Breeders Cup Mile winner was going to be. Gio Ponti ran about as well as he's capable of running. But Goldikova is just simply in a class all her own at this distance on turf. The only time Goldikova ever get's beaten at a mile on the turf is if she run's up against ground that doesn't suite. Like her and Paco Boy both ran up against at Deauville. When Makfi beat both on very soft ground in the Prix Jacques Le Marois.
GBeret83 1 year ago
Zarkava has done this is extraordinary and I remain confident that we have seen a filly to legend, the best for a very long time! gold is a beautiful mare 1 miles I would have liked to see cons Rock of Gibraltar was for me the best miler before her for 20 years. lol!
kirikou441 1 year ago
Brilliant stuff for Goldikova as always, the American race style really suits her but she can win anywhere, from any position in a race. She is rare in that sense, that you can put her anywhere in a race and her turn of foot is second to none. She was no match for Zarkava in her 3yo career but she has improved alot since then and she goes down in history as the only horse to win 3 consecutive BC races.
But for the record, Brigadier Gerrard is the best miler ever.
dessiesdoneit 1 year ago
Greatest turf miler of all time. Male or female. Bar none!!!
GBeret83 1 year ago
Remarkable win from a remarkable mare. Still think that Zarkava is the best filly/mare I have ever seen though she always had the better of Goldikova, But what this mare as done since is nothing short of exceptional and she thoroughly deserves everything she gets after this shes utterly brilliant! Never dodged the opposition and consistently beat them...
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@ASupremeOwl Goldikova as improved tremendously since Zarkava beat her in the Poule and that race was not as cut and dry as some people try to make out, it is unfair to keep saying Goldie was put in her place by Zarkava, when F Head said himself that Goldikova was more backward than Zarkava as a 3 year old, some people wish to boost Zarkava form on the back of Goldi archievements at 4 & 5, but Goldi at 4 & 5 would have distroyed the Goldi in that Poule, so you cannot compare the 2 now.
kelletman 1 year ago
@ASupremeOwl Probably not to fair to compare two horses that run different distances and on different grounds.
eddiey4k 1 year ago
great horse good jockey
crewclub 1 year ago
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Goldikova is a real champion mare unlike the overrated Zenyatta who only races in fillies/mares races against no hopers
debbider 1 year ago
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debbider 1 year ago
if sidney's candy didn't have an 11 week layoff he would have finished better
dinney123 1 year ago
I'm from the USA and I give this mare all the kudos, she deserves them. Unlike Zenyattas connections who for 3 years evaded running against males on real dirt this mares connections did not dodge or evade anyone. They consistently sought out the best competition in her disclipline and they consistently beat them. In fact if it were me, Goldikova would be my vote for Eclipse award older HOY even with just this one race.
bluetiege 1 year ago 30
@bluetiege
Zenyatta's discipline was on synthetics, not dirt. hypocritical post.
saveus228 1 year ago
@bluetiege GREATEST MILER but would have lost more if she ran in longer races.
There is a huge difference running against males at a mile. You stretch out for another 2 furlongs and Goldikova would have lost more.
duhru4real 1 year ago
@duhru4real GREATEST ZENYATTA would have been destroyed if she ran in shorter races,so fucking what?GREATEST ZENYATTA would have been destroyed had she raced over further,so fucking what?Both of them ran over their preferred trip on their preferred surface.One won,one lost.Tough shit.
guitarlegend32 1 year ago
@bluetiege
uh you do realize that she dodged all the BEST TURF HORSES IN EUROPE BY NEVER RUNNING 12 furlongs right?
saveus228 1 year ago
@bluetiege I totally agree with that what we are looking at is a mare in Goldi with 8 wins vs males, Rachel has 3 wins vs males, easily the most impressive females we've seen on the track in a very long time, taking on males and beating them consistently is what a true test of a champion race mare. Kudos to her connections for not being scared to take on and beat the best over and over again, not ducking due to surface or wanting to take on optional claimers or allowance horses. HOY Goldikova
dubby300 1 year ago
The best mare in the world, and unlike Zenyatta her connections did not choose cookie cutter schedules for her racing mostly against cupcakes. Blame is an ok older male, but he's no monster and Zenyatta could not even beat him. This mare has unreal acceleration. wow
bluetiege 1 year ago
What a great mare. ..Its too bad that many people in the US don't give her as much credit as she deserves...Absolutely Phenomenal!
Glamwolf 1 year ago
Fantastic!
kijuuki 1 year ago
In a word, "EXPLOSIVE"!!!!!!
GBeret83 1 year ago
She is so good and she made it look so easy. A true Legend.
DOAJAM 1 year ago
Long live the Queen
tcacVII 1 year ago
What a fantastic feat! Goldikova made it look so easy!
Kagefujin 1 year ago
WOW!! What a GREAT mare!
73KHS 1 year ago
Best miler ever IMO and a true champion. To quote last year's race, "Goldikova is just such a lady!"
dustywhipp5 1 year ago
@dustywhipp5 Best miler ever - Brigadier Gerard. End of story...
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
Best miler and turf mare EVER. Awesome. Amazing. Wonderful. True champion. Love you Goldi <3
BlackHorse0688 1 year ago 13
@BlackHorse0688 No mate that goes to Zarkava, Remember Zarkava always had the better of her. What she as done since is remarkable though and I take My hat off to her...
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@ASupremeOwl Zarkava only once beat Godi over a mile, but thad day Godi was a real madam, she did throw the Jockey at the start refused to go into the stalls and was down on her nose when the gates opened she was lucky to get back in the race at all but she came second, the only other time these 2 horses met was over 11F a distance Goldi does not stay, Zarkava was a very big filly for her age but Goldi was not, Zarkava never raced out side of France and only once raced away from Longchamp >>>
kelletman 1 year ago
@kelletman We can argue to the sun comes home about who the better was, The facts remain that Zarkava retired undefeated. Beat Goldikova in there one meet over a mile at the first time of asking, Was the first filly to win the Arc in nearly 15 years aswell as two classics to her name and 5 group ones in her career retiring on a timeform rating of 133 exactly the same as Goldi who as won more group ones. I dont like to take anything away from Goldi Im a big fan. Its just IMO Zarkava was better...
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@ASupremeOwl Should that be cows not sun? never mind, Zharkava remained undefeated like you said, but she retired as a 3 year old where as Goldi stayed in training and proved her self at 4 & 5 and her owners deserve alot of credit for that unlike the owners of Zarkava who was a course specialist at Longchamp then packed of to stud at the first opportunity, it is very unfair to keep bringing Goldi 3 year old form up as she is not the same horse and as proved that time and time again.
kelletman 1 year ago
@kelletman ha yeah it meant to be cows, No idea where sun came from there. IMO Zarkava is the best filly I've seen for a long long time. Theres no point comparing Zarkava and Goldikova because Zarkava retired at a different age, I can only go on when She was racing Goldikova when she was a 3 year old and she didnt lose in the time they met. Zarkava beat Goldikova at a mile which is Goldikova's specialist distance these days. Then Zarkava won the Diane and Arc two of frances classic races...
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@ASupremeOwl the paddock look at other great mares Time Charter 2nd in the Guinness, Oaks winner, King George winner, Dubai Champion Stakes winner, Champion mare for 3 seasons, top class brood mare. Pebbles first try at 1 1/2m smashed the course record in Breeders Cup by 1 1/5 seconds in a time of 2.27 seconds, she was awarded the Eclipse Award on the back of that 1 run, Ouija Board won G1 races all over the world against colts including the Hong Kong Vase, Oaks,Breeders and many more >>
kelletman 1 year ago
@ASupremeOwl , these are just a few of the giants of our sport that proved them self as older horse on many different tracks, their owners should be applauded for keeping them in training and not packing them off to the paddock at the first opportunity. Yes Zarkava was a great horse on one track for one season, See The Stars was better because he won in Ireland, England and France, he was a colt so it is understandable that he went to stud.
kelletman 1 year ago
@kelletman Zarkava would have probably won in Ireland or England had she raced there... How can You say she might not have? Anyone who crossed her was disposed off and I am confident in saying she would have done that on any track in Europe. Ouija Board was a brilliant horse but as timeform shows Zarkava is rated on par with Indian Skimmer and Miesque now that is high company both better horses than anyone You have just named. I mean the mighty Zarkava disposed of 5 time group one winner...
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@kelletman Duke of Marmalade in the Arc, Aswell as Henry the Navigator and New Approach both group one winners. How timeform rated Curlin higher than Zarkava is beyond Me, He wouldnt have been able to stay in her slipstream in the her 3 year old year. Besides the point, Both Goldi and Zarkava are brilliant fillys. I look forward to following the flat season again next year, Fingers crossed that Frankel is as good as everyone thinks He is, I've followed him with interest and Im very hopeful..
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@ASupremeOwl It was Goldikova who beat Henrythenavigator not Zarkave, then Henry went on to finish in front of Curling in the BCC. New Aproach never ran against Zarkava, yes Zarkava did beat Duke of Marmalade but DOM did not run up to his best in the Arc as Solder of Fortune 12/1 It's Gino 150/1 and Ask 33/1 also finished infont of Duke Of Marmalade in that years Arc, I am not saying Zarkava was a very good horse but she was wrapped in cotton wool compared to many horses and retired early.
kelletman 1 year ago
@kelletman Zarkava proved herself over many distances and won and that for Me makes her the better of the two. Goldikova is without doubt the best miler I've seen but like I said earlier we can't say what else Zarkava would have done she was retired and quite rightly, She was the best horse in the world at the time. Goldikova carried on and as made herself a racing legend and I can't say anymore that that..
ASupremeOwl 1 year ago
@ASupremeOwl I agree with you up to a point, Zarkava did win from a mile to 1 1/2m but she was a massive 3 year old and was getting the full weight for age allowance from the older horses, If I had my way the Derby and Arc would be for 4 year olds and upwards then we would see who was the best, no horse needs to retire as a 3 year old 99% of the time it is done for commercial reasons only, I can understand the reasons behind retiring a colt but the fillies can earn as much on the track than in>
kelletman 1 year ago
@BlackHorse0688 - I would Agree with you she IS phenomenol, BUT You are wrong. Zarkava is the Greatest, and would have broken ANY record Goldikova has. Zarkava made EASY work of Goldikova on previous encounters. It is just too bad their owners retired her, and she will now go to breed with Sea to the Stars. But PLEASE don't think I am here to disrespect this Champion Mare..... I am Certainly NOT. Cheers.
Nucleo85Torino 1 year ago
@BlackHorse0688 - Just think how good Zarkava was when she blew past Goldi like she was standing still!. So think carefully next time you wanna ignorantly state the not so obvious!. ZARKAVA is the BEST Turf Filly EVER!.
Nucleo85Torino 1 year ago
@Nucleo85Torino She was brilliant Nucleo and has just given birth to a healthy colt by the greatest, STS.However,I would personally have Zarkava about 4th or 5th in the rankings.My reasons are stated below,just go back a page or two.Regards.
guitarlegend32 1 year ago
@guitarlegend32 - Cheers.
Nucleo85Torino 1 year ago
@BlackHorse0688 Check out YouTube 'Frankel 2000 Guineas'. Breeders Cup Mile winner? maybe Looks an awesome miler. Wheter or not he'll get the longer distances who knows, If not I'd back him for the Breeders Cup Turf mile.....
kingsindiandefence 10 months ago
@kingsindiandefence Agreed it was an impressive performance. Not sure though that Churchill Downs would suit him though. Who know how good he'll be come the BC's next year. He's still got a ways to go before you culd mention hi in te same breath as Goldkova though.
bgardiner2000 10 months ago
@bgardiner2000 Goldikova is about to race against Canford Cliffs in The Queen Anne stakes. The Richard hannon Horse is favourite, promises to be a cracking race....I'm sad, she had first run, fought like a tiger but he went by her.
kingsindiandefence 8 months ago
@kingsindiandefence everyone hates to see a champion lose. The way she fought showed her class. the other horse just had too much and that should tell you a lot that he was favourite to win before the race.
kingsindiandefence 8 months ago
@kingsindiandefence she did lose to canford cliffs but i bet you a pound to a penny that she will make it 4 breeders cup mile wins, that is the focus not canford cliffs, let Frankel take care of Canford but Sir Henry take Quealy off him or he will ruin him. goldi is a true great and not done yet trust me
fowlergod09 8 months ago
@kingsindiandefence Id imagine Frankel will comee over for a BC race, afterall he is named after a famous American trainer. The worry id have are the tracks they have over there, there very tight left handed tracks. First of all Frankel has never raced left handed, and secondly it takes a very versatile horse to act on American tracks, as they are ridiculously sharp. Goldikova apears to thrive on these tracks, wether Frankel or even Canford Cliffs will, only time will tell.
MANUTD4LIFE171 8 months ago
Goldikova true champion
TheFrancis143 1 year ago 2
Thanks for this
joshfletch1290 1 year ago
and Goldikova makes the hat-trick!! Go Goldikova!! :D
FleetingMoon123 1 year ago