As Onision says, you like meat? why don't you eat yourself too YUM! :] If you care about your own family you won't consume another, no matter if they are human or animal.
An analogy you brought up is quite annoying, and imo, something that a salesmen would say to get you to buy something. A lions killing 1 gazelle to feed their whole pride vs us killing thousands of livestock, while mistreating them their entire life, so your fat ass can enjoy a 42 ounce steak?
Lions will die if they don't kill that gazelle. Will you die if you don't eat that steak? How bout if you only eat half of it and throw the other half out, will you die then?
@S3FLionheart i know you commented a year ago but still a life is a life a frog is similar to a cow because they are both living so you sir are no better than us "meateaters" because of the fact that you are killing the animals inhabited in the places where crop fields were built
@AwesomeKiwi69 MORE crops are produced to feed animals than crops used to feed people. If we only ate vegetation, we still wouldn't be consuming as much vegetation as we are now in order to feed animals. So, if we all stopped eating animals, less vegetation would be produced and less animals would die.
The gazelle is killed by the lion yes but the gazelle is a healthy source unlike the cows who are fed hormones and in horrible living conditions to be rasied,birthed, and or milked in an unnatural way and raised to be killed
Just because you don't, doesn't mean it isn't necessary. Or have you never been to a farm. Guess what, farms kill the animals that eat their crops. Full stop. Every farm on earth.
Call it hunting, call it extermination. It is destroying animals so you can be fed.
Vegetarians aren't wrong for being vegetarian. People who eat meat are not wrong for eating meat. It is a life style choice. You can be healthy both ways.
once there was a little girl named Christine. In 1925 she was buried alive.He body wasn't found until 1938. a few weeks ago a kid didn't copy and paste this onto 6 videos so he went to sleep and he woke up in a coffin so if you don't copy and paste this unto 6 videos the little girl will come to you in your sleep and burry you alive.
...The Lion can eat the gazel because it HAS to, we on the other hand have alternatives...if we got rid of the slaughter houses and such we would have a lot more area for crops, your video has flaws..
@Risus1212 Meat eaters eat cows and cows produce methane and methane is damaging our ozone layer and damaging the earth.
Vegetarians eat plants, plants help get rid of Methane which helps not damage the ozonelayer which damages our earth. Now which one do you think does more damage? The one who is getting rid of a problem to the earth by making it a food source or the ones who eat the one thing that gets rid of the dangers that damage the ozonelayer by eating it?
Yes we do but if everyone became vegitarians it would be completely different because then everyone would be getting rid of our plannets defence helper. You dont want to argue because you know I made a very good point that you cant counter. Thats why you opened the discussion with "Im not going to argue with you" to try dismiss what my point was and then right after tried to open up a new part by sayin "you know its a living thing".
So yes I do know it was a living thing but the fact is you are destroying the things that we need around to wsurvive and keep the earth good and then you encourage people to eat thje things we need around to survive instead of eat the things that cause a problem so no when you say your better for taking away what we need to survive and that saying were worse than you because we made a problem into a food source then you are completely wrong.
If you dont want to argue about the point "I made" instead of tryiong to dismiss it because its a good point then dont reply to me because its obvious you are trying to figure out a way to try say vegetarians are better but when I give you information that proves you wrong you have nothing better to say is "Im not going to argue with you". If you werrent going to argue with me then what was the point in commenting back to me?
Aha aw how cute so I make a logical statement and all you have is "it didnt make sense". Ok let me simplify it for you. Plants are needed to protect earths ozone layer and vegetarians eat the things that protect earths atmosphere (plants).
Cows prodice Methan which damages the ozone layer and meat eaters get rid of that problem by making it into a food source. Meat eaters eat the things that damage earths ozone layer while vegetarians each things that protect earths ozone layer.
@SpikedYumFAR more plants are killed in order to provide the feed for animals raised in meat dairy and egg production than those used by a vegan. By funding the industries BREEDING these animals, you are funding repeated breeding of the animals producing so much methane, and the killing of far more plants. 80% of deforestation of the Amazon is a direct result of animal agri-business clearing land to plant and kill more plants and breed more cows.
Now if that doesnt make sense to you (which im sure it does) then you are just saying it doesnt make sense then it is obvious you arent trying to find the truth of which is better for earth you are just trying to make it sound like your food choice makes youa better person which it clearly doesnt.
@SpikedYum okay well, what I just said is probably good enough, we BREED the cows that produce the methane if we didnt do that then..well you can do the math.. I'm sure your an awesome person but we just don't agree...I have my FACTS and you have your FACTS..lets just leave it at that..have a good day bro :)
And he apparently can't tell the difference between eating crops which might harm some animals indirectly and is NECESSARY TO LIVE and killing far more animals as a part of the NECESSITY of eating meat and is NOT NECESSARY TO LIVE.
Paused 1:40. This guy is a moron. If a lion could easily survive without killing and was sentient enough to fully understand his actions and take responsibility for it, thinking about the ethical considerations of his diet then YES OF COURSE IT WOULD BE YOU FUCKING CRETIN! But they can't moron. We are intelligent enough to have to be responsible for our fucking actions. If we could persuade the lion not to kill the animals like we can humans then uh....yes? Yes it would be reasonable?
@kattwoman17 Wow. Your comment is almost as stupid as you yourself. You realize that just calling me stupid and offering absolutely NOTHING to counter my argument just makes you look like a drooling braindead idiot? Notice that when I called him a moron, I followed it with a full paragraph explaining why?
@AEgamesFtw Ah. So you are indeed just plain stupid. Evidently someone never bothered to study the anatomy of a lion. Another difference between lions and humans is that of our physiology. Lions are meant to sustain themselves on meat. Humans (without the advances we have made as a society) are not meant to survive on only one food source. If lions had the same intelligence and self-awareness that we as humans had, the only thing that would change is that it would be easier for them to hunt us.
You do realize that rain forests, which harbor many more amphibians and reptiles, are being wipe outed for farming land?
Also the "natural" argument is getting old and tired. Take a look around. What the fuck are humans doing that is so natural? We are not obligated by the laws of nature anymore. So in that, there is a choice. We are so beyond animality, that we have the choice to enslave entire species, or stop eating animals altogether.
hahahaha.... retarded vegans, living a life of denial. these faggots refuse to hear anything they don't want to and do nothing but spout nonsense they read in pamphlets.
That is not true. We have tearing teeth, we are omnivores, similar to bears. We have a medium sized gut length so we can eat vegetables and meat. Furthermore, this new age of city-dwelling, out-of-touch with the environment vegetarians is a tiny fraction of human existence. For hundreds of thousands of years, all of mankind were hunters/gatherers and subsisted on meat protein.Even today there are cultures (think Eskimo) that follow this strategy.
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i couldnt care less, i love my beef pork, chicken, occasional seafood, and all the creatures deemed edible. if being whatever makes you sleep at night because yall didnt eat bambi thats absolutley fine, but doesent mean i wont eat him so there yahh go.
Humans are actually a not natural meat eaters. If you look at our jaw structures, it is that of a herbivore.
Also a lion killing a gazelle, well that is the lions food source, that is what the lion survives by. But us humans, we have intelligence and kitchens. Also meat is not necessity, we do not need it.
And if you are serious about Onision killing himself, then you must be messed up. No one should be wished death.
Also if your serious about your opinions don't disguise yourself coward.
You are obviously an idiot. Just because you see that killing animals is fine and justifiable, those innocent animals would not have to be farmed that way, or at all if people realised that we could survive without meat. That we could be happier and healthier without needing the consumption of meat. That these animals could have had a life and a family, and died peacefully. But no, we must eat the animals, that's the only logical answer, it's not like we could survive any other way, wait, we can
Ok um i live on a farm and i take care of all the animals on it. I even live within walking range of a national forest but i have no desire to kill anything that doesn't need to die for me to survive. It is not the same for humans to kill animals as other animals kill other animals because out in the wild animals actually fight to survive while OBESE PEOPLE go out and kill an animals and then lie and say the protect them.
For thou shouldst be mindful that though what is thus compounded seem to thee of marvelous subtlety, it is as nothing compared with the soul that dwells within this structure; and in truth, whatever this may be, it is a divine thing which suffers it thus to dwell within its handiwork at its good pleasure, and wills not that thy rage or malice should destroy such a life, since in truth he who values it not does not deserve it. -Leonardo da Vinci
You are so stupid. Yes. Lions and tigers and bears kill other animals. But do they know how to chop up a bush and eat there greens? Do they know how to jump in trees and feed off of apples or berries? Giraffes stay strong and healthy eating trees, and even dinosaurs lived on plants. We are capable to make a decision. There for, we are not depending on meat to live. fucktard.
@jmunky123 It's great to see everyone's not calling each other a fucktard here.
...Wait.
I do believe if they put their minds to it doing such things would be simple. In fact, they very well can do such things - especially with their claws - but they eat meat simply because they are such creatures. Humans are not supposed to be simply herbivores. For example, take a gander at your teeth. Around the front they're sharp and around the back they're rather dull. Wouldn't you think we wouldn't
@Artemis750 Evolution...In early years, We didnt know because everything was survival. But now that we have everything handed to us, unless you live in a third world contry, You are perfectly capable of living a herbibore diet. Have you ever had a salad? An apple? anything but meat? If other vegetarians can survive for so long, i think meat-eating fat asses can too.
@jmunky123 Some families live in countries like America but still can't afford this herbivore diet as - believe it or not - not all families are quite rich or middle-class.
And I just have to shake my head at that meat-eating fat ass comment. Don't go Emo Charlie on omnivores by calling them all overweight punks, or we'll go Arnold Schwartzeneger on herbivores by calling them all puny sticks and shells of men.
@jmunky123 While I'm not saying you can't live without meats, your body would essentially perform better with the proteins in meat. With the proper exercise and consumption of foods (not just meats but also fruits and vegetables) you could have a healthy, fit lifestyle.
Why not educate the children on ALL aspects of our food production, including meat and the cruelty involved? Or do we want them to grow up "in caves" like blind little mushrooms, always in the dark?
Why do people put on masks???? Is it to entertain people??? Its stupid and the high voice makes it more stupid, i hate this guy, thumbs down to his videos!!!!!
His intention is to cause as little harm as possible which means not eating meat without killing himself or harming anyone, which is obvious so in turn, proves your ignorance.
And for the record, I've been on both sides of the topic too. Used to be a vegetarian, then tried to be a vegan, and eventually went back to eating meat and everything else. So I'm not being one-sided if I sound like it, I've been on both ends of the topic.
Interesting topic, my only reasoning is that the lion has to kill animals, without meat it dies. It's stomach and body isn't designed like ours is to function just on fruits, vegetables, and non-meat products. That's like trying to feed a lion tofu for the rest of its life, it'll die, but a person won't if they eat it because we're omnivores. Our bodies can consume most things, even some people in this world can eat raw meat. Other than that, I agree with both sides of the topic.
@TheSuperiorChaotix Wow. You're a perfect example of what is wrong with youtube. Greg is a big boy, AND a big partner. Don't you think if he wanted to, he could have this video taken down? Grow up, you sad little fan-tard.
You're comparing a lion's mind set to that of a human? Unlike most animals humans do not base their actions primarily on instinct but rather their observation of the world and with a sense of what can be done to change the observed injustices. As the dominant species on this planet we no longer need to base our survival on the suffering and exploitation of other species, we've progressed to such a point where we can manipulate the environment to our advantage and no longer need to live this way
its not about not killing animals, its about killing the least amount of them and reduce the impact that meat eating creates to our health, economy and even morals.
We are always killing animals when we build and expand so I find that a bogus reason to stop creating crop fields since creating animal farms have the same effect on the poor little frogs you have so much concern about.
by your logic of least kills, it forces you to become fruitarian in order to be consistent. Given there wouldn't be another diet to sustain yourself. Good luck.
WAT THE FUK man if you think Onision is bad which in opinion he isn't. why do you have to do things like this. sure people can understand quite clerly what he me.ans. But if you have to stoop so low to completely bring him down like this your no better than the opinion you think of onision
I'm sorry but to me absolutely none of your arguements are acceptable. The lion example: Lion's are born carnivores, they are made to eat meat. If you watch his videos on vegetarianism there is one with a mindblowing arguement. He states the facts about our anatomy and we have the same anatomy as herbivores. The crops: some animals may be killed but when making meat it is guaranteed that many animals will be killed.
..... Um, you just proved Onision's point even better than he has in his own videos. You do realize that land also has to be cleared to create fields FOR LIVESTOCK? And barns? Habitat is destroyed either way.
Oh my god, It just goes to show how wrong people can be, onision and all the others that choose to judge us for eating meat need a reality check, and you just gave it to them :D WELL DONE !
down with Onision he has no right to stuff his beliefs down peoples thoughts first telling people to give up meat because it kills animals but yet the vegetables that he eats kills animals when they are farmed and now what he is doing attacking Shay Carl about is baby son's circumcision is just not right nether Onision has no right to tell Shay how to raise his kids i say we all should do something about Onision all the members of the Uncle Troll nation, Shay Tards should all band together!
Many vegetarians make the outrageous claim that it's NOT natural for humans to eat meat! This is a FLAT OUT LIE! Scientest KNOW it's a lie. we have Canine teeth which are designed for one purpose, ripping meat. The appendix had ONE purpose (although we have since lost the use of it) the appendix was the part of the digestive system that allowed us to eat RAW meat safely! Any of these Vegens who make this claim I liken to Medeival Christians and their MYTHS!
@Onewitnessus Actually the appendix has many uses. Don't use wikipedia. Stay current. The veggies use outdated information, that doesn't mean we should.
@peaches97778 I"m 50 years old and I do NOT use wikipedia. I was around when they finally DISCOVERED what the human apendix was originally used for. NO it does NOT have "many" uses. In fact, in humans it's utterly useless and that's why they can remove it! For years it was a MYSTERY what it was originally for! Since humans cook their food the appendix has become obsolete.
@Onewitnessus You can remove it, but it still has many uses. It plays a role in many bodily functions. It's just not the sole organ involved in any of the essential ones.
@Onewitnessus Wikianswers then. Are you trying to suggest that an organ can de-evolve into obsolescence in such a short time? People were saying the same shit about the pineal gland until 1960. Anyway, save me some time replying. Read some CURRENT medical material on the subject. I won't be giving this troll asshole OR onision any more views. I think they are both idiots and neither of them affect my dietry choices.
Thank you Uncle Troll. I have found Onisions videos of one sided views and utter arrogance to deny anybody elses opinion appalling. I too am the same that I enjoy (enjoyed) his videos but I've found that his force feeding of vegan-ism has turned me off him all together. My mother has been a vegetarian since she was 17 years old. I do not look down on anybody who leads a life their way but Onision... Well that guy's just a plain old prick!
I dont know about u but I would not want anybody to have to live in a world like that. Besides, thats no excuse to be disrispectful to those that died, and the ones that did to keep u alive.
Sadly the world is a evil place, but atleast some people are striving to make it better for everone... Cant u see that? I hate the idea of anyone that suffers, do u?
Proberly not because ur a freak who hides behind a mask.
can't we just eat the vegetarians? solve the whole deal and such? what? oh you're right stringy,anemic,meat without much nutritional value..ok then..let's grind 'em all up for mulch so's they can feed the earth..good idea right,right??
i'm a vegetarian, but i do it because it's scientifically proven that the hormones in meat are likely to cause cancer. since i am more likely to have cancer because my mom had cancer, i choose not to eat meat. i've never been healthier.
When the farmers are cropping those fields for those delicious vegetables, well they are killing animals too. frogs, turtles, snakes, birds, and even some larger animals like fox, raccoons, squirrels etc...
Ok so your way still kills way less animals I get it. But your argument is for the love of all animals. You must starve Greg Onision to live up to your beliefs. It is all in my video response. You have no further argument.
@UncleTroll You make a good point. Too often killing goes unnoticed.
There are sustainable ways of reducing this number of deaths of animals, insects, worms, and other creatures effected by tilling. Too often farmers are overworked and underpaid and allow these atrocities to go on. Since agriculture has been industrialized, many areas use factory and commercial farming to raise hundreds of acres of uncared-for plants and animals in poor living conditions under the pretext of reducing costs.
@UncleTroll You give the same argument many meat eaters do. I have heard this before and argued with it before, there is no use. I am not going to change your opinion, eat meat if you wish, but don't judge us for not eating it,
@UncleTroll Unca Troll..G.M.A.Regulations on what you can grow,MON-FUCKIN'_SANTO and the management of seeds..maybe the vegetarians will get what's there's going to be served at the "Last Supper" of man.Of course all the garbage they feed our meat"Read..mass trapped farms" is just as bad..and the salmon..well long and short..we're JWF..jolly well fucked.
and Unca..fuck them who hate..the opinions who matter are the one's you know you love and love you ..anyways..rep and all..FUCK ALL BUT 6
Vegetarians who say the meat industry being crap is the reason for their vegetarianism? Then go to a local farm! Order grass-fed meat from a small farm instead of walmart. It's sustainable and doesn't have all the crap industrial meat does.
@celt130 again how can you say anything about what animals do or don't feel, you have no right to say that animals don't feel guilt when you don't know and the fact that you think peole are superior is just ridiculous, people are the reason for global warming, they invented war, and show less guilt than any animal, we put animals through so much, drugging them and cooking them alive and most
well the problem is obvious, overpopulation means meat has to be unnaturally industrialized, but also perpetuates hunger where the industry of food isn't as easily reached, but the solution to both problems, overpopulation and hunger, is just as obvious, everyone should eat someone they don't like. Hunger. solved. Population, down by at least half. Best of all, the popel who will be going away are only people who suck. I/E Youtube staff, Republicans, and the like
@JamesIsDreaming Moderate vegans pay for those extremists posting here.They use any means to get to there goal so many omnivores are getting on the attack now.Personnaly I never attack vegans for what they are but for the arguments they use,that is why we are talking now.On what do omnivores attack you and where does it come from you think?
@JamesIsDreaming What do you find here on this media?Hundreds of vegan material trying to convince omnivores that either, we are not supposed to eat meat, or meat is bad for your health,or meat is bad for the environment, or meat is not moral.And I surly forget some. Do you see omnivores post hundreds of such material trying to convert vegans?
@JamesIsDreaming That is why you are wrong on my intentions.You think I care you are a vegan?You are free to do so,as I am to be an omnivore.That is also the big difference between you and me.I respect your freedom,you don't respect mine.I simply attack your wrong arguments with science as science is on my side.All the arguments you can ever use are destroyed by science and data.
@JamesIsDreaming The enzyme argument is surely something you found on some vegan website as it is related to the famous"carnivores have higher acidity in there stomach then humans,humans have an acidity level related to herbivores"argument.If you actually study this you will notice it is not the acidity who counts but the PH.Carnivores 2,humans 3,herbivores around5/6.
Why did I cop paste scientific studies about the Inuits, simply because you surly believe meat bring you heart diseases and cancer as this is one favorite vegan argument. So I just destroyed that one before you or any other vegan starts about that subject.The vegan movement is from the 20th century, never where there vegans in ancient history because of the health issue.Prove me wrong if you can.
@JamesIsDreaming Aren't you the one who says humans aren't supposed to eat meat because it isn't natural?Because we don't have some special enzyme in our
digestive system.The B12 vitamin tottaly destroys your argument as does the vitamin D under our latitudes.Also Iodine and calcium is another nail to your coffin.I didn't hear any reply about cattle not killing grass...
@JamesIsDreaming Mixed farming systems make the largest contribution to world livestock products with just over 50 per cent of the meat and 90 per cent of the milk currently consumed being produced in such systems (Council for Agricultural Science and Technology, 1999, quoted in Van Keulen and Schiere, 2004).Not everything is industrial.What more do you want me to debunk?
@JamesIsDreaming Doesn't meat give you heart diseases?Same data coming from the Abkhaze people who are renowned for there old age and who eat fat. Meat must be realy bad for your health...
The daily feeding pattern consisted of four meals. The first three
were generally of 200-250 g portions of dried meats.The fourth and largest meal of the day was usually a stew, made with flesh, bones, marrow and selected viscera of terrestrial and marine mammals and birds.Few
plants are available in the vicinity of Kutuervik; they formed an incidental
part of the diet.Vitamin C in the Diet of Inuit Hunters From
@JamesIsDreaDewailly says the traditional Inuit diet is high in selenium,common to whale skin,and explains why prostate cancer is almost unheard of in the north,as are most other cancers.Cardiovascular disease is rare,likely because the Inuit diet remains rich in game."The traditional Inuit diet is fats and proteins,no sugar at all,"Dewailly "It is probably one of the healthiest diets you can haveming
@JamesIsDreaming In Greenland atherosclerosis is a more or less unknown disease. For example, in the 1970s there was not a single death due to cardiovascular disease in the hunting district of Uummannaq with about 3,000 inhabitants. In recent years some Greenlanders have moved to Denmark. Following the same pattern as elsewhere in the world, these immigrants have contracted the same cardiovascular diseases as the Danes
@JamesIsDreaming However, strong evidence exists of a decrease in traditional food consumption by the Inuit, primarily from 1950 to 1970, when Inuit populations settled into permanent communities and market foods became increasingly available (18, 19). In several native populations, a shift away from traditional lifestyles and diets is associated with an increased prevalence of risk factors for CVD, such as high blood pressure, elevated blood lipids, diabetes, and obesity
@JamesIsDreaming As early as 1908 the Danish doctors Krogh & Krogh studied the Greenlandic diet. They demonstrated that Greenlanders were the most meat-eating population known at that time.The Danish doctors Bang and Dyerberg confirmed this in the studies they made between 1970 and 1979.Inuit who have lived on the diet of the western world have developed atherosclerosis just as in Europe and the USA.Atherosclerosis is still not a widespread disease in Greenland
@JamesIsDreaming What I understand is that you use arguments you cannot prove either with data or science. I proved you are wrong concerning meat in the Inuit population and the fact they didn't know heart diseases and almost no cancers. This is opposite to what you and most vegans claim.The difference is that I use data and science to prove my point.
@JamesIsDreaming There has never been any healthy vegan population in history,only vegetarians.Veganism dates from 1944 when"the vegan society"was created.If you would from birth never eat meat or fish you wouldn't get to 10 years old,not maybe even 5.You would die of lack of B12,D vitamin,calcium,Iodine.That is why you need chemicals to be able to live now.
@JamesIsDreaming: See this is what I mean. My facts are false and yours are true. And it's not like part of them are true, eating plants is part of a health human diet, but so is meat. I think because I disagree with you, you think I am more extreme then I really am.
@JamesIsDreaming: No, if that was true then everything would be true wouldn't it?
What I was saying is that what I use are facts about the human diet. However because those facts don't agree with what you think they are wrong. It's like saying that doctors and scientists are wrong but not the ones saying a vegan diet is the best to have.
@BrookieBaine I'll tell you what I told him. I think you should work on your research a little bit. Animals are carnivores, that's why the lion eats the gazelle. Not to mention the fact we are more self aware than the animals. Humans are built to consume fruits and grains, not flesh.
And for the end; Vegetarians eat vegetables and grains out of necessity. Meat eaters eat the flesh of the innocent out of a desire.
I think you should work on your research a little bit. Animals are carnivores, that's why the lion eats the gazelle. Not to mention the fact we are more self aware than the animals. Humans are built to consume fruits and grains, not flesh.
And for the end; Vegetarians eat vegetables and grains out of necessity. Meat eaters eat the flesh of the innocent out of a desire.
@Sims2players Simple reply to your propaganda. Do not ever eat meat or fish from when you are born and you will not get to 10 years of age and you will be mentally disabled. You will not maybe even get to 5 years old. B12, D vitamin, calcium,Iodine is missing in your"natural"diet.Without chemicals you wouldn't survive.
@Sims2players There where never people before the 20th century.The B12 vegans use is called"Cyanocobalamin"it's a man made vitamin,doesn't exist in nature.There is also no vitamin D in plants.Vitamin D2 is manufactured by the UV irradiation of ergosterol in yeast, and vitamin D3 is manufactured by the irradiation of 7-dehydrocholesterol from lanolin and the chemical conversion of cholesterol
@celt130 *Yawn* I'm not a vegan. I'm a vegetarian. But, either way, I rather put myself at some danger, then kill innocent animals that have feeling - just like me
There are no reliable, unfortified plant sources of vitamin B12 (see B12 in Tempeh, Seaweeds, Organic Produce, and Other Plant Foods for more information); therefore fortified foods and/or supplements are necessary for the optimal health of vegans and even vegetarians in many cases.You should do some research...
@Sims2players: Just eat right is the same for all diets, including vegans and omnivores, and everyone else. Now on overall ease and expense, eating meat is the best. Look at how difficult it is to eat a real vegan diet. It's nearly impossible to because we don't use animals solely for meat.
As Onision says, you like meat? why don't you eat yourself too YUM! :] If you care about your own family you won't consume another, no matter if they are human or animal.
Eating dead flesh is a choice not a necessity.
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paraplegicgiraffe 2 months ago
what then is he a robot? we're all animals...
kilkolio 2 months ago
TEHEHE@your face
An analogy you brought up is quite annoying, and imo, something that a salesmen would say to get you to buy something. A lions killing 1 gazelle to feed their whole pride vs us killing thousands of livestock, while mistreating them their entire life, so your fat ass can enjoy a 42 ounce steak?
Lions will die if they don't kill that gazelle. Will you die if you don't eat that steak? How bout if you only eat half of it and throw the other half out, will you die then?
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chalisgone 5 months ago
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funnyfurtuson 5 months ago
2 words... Plastic Surgery
RussianCommandSquad 6 months ago
@S3FLionheart i agree wif gangsta besides he is not only talking about frogs if you paid attention to the video
AwesomeKiwi69 7 months ago
@S3FLionheart i know you commented a year ago but still a life is a life a frog is similar to a cow because they are both living so you sir are no better than us "meateaters" because of the fact that you are killing the animals inhabited in the places where crop fields were built
AwesomeKiwi69 7 months ago
dude i was thinking about being vegetarian until i saw this i think this guy is right
AwesomeKiwi69 7 months ago
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@AwesomeKiwi69 MORE crops are produced to feed animals than crops used to feed people. If we only ate vegetation, we still wouldn't be consuming as much vegetation as we are now in order to feed animals. So, if we all stopped eating animals, less vegetation would be produced and less animals would die.
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JJJJJ2630 7 months ago
The gazelle is killed by the lion yes but the gazelle is a healthy source unlike the cows who are fed hormones and in horrible living conditions to be rasied,birthed, and or milked in an unnatural way and raised to be killed
FoulkeVlogs 7 months ago
iShatOnu is better then you faggot
FoulkeVlogs 7 months ago
@sonic200990 Humans do hunt, and we need to.
Just because you don't, doesn't mean it isn't necessary. Or have you never been to a farm. Guess what, farms kill the animals that eat their crops. Full stop. Every farm on earth.
Call it hunting, call it extermination. It is destroying animals so you can be fed.
USSBN734 7 months ago
Just saying don't use that frankly ridiculous argument of natural predators when humans themselfs do not hunt, or need too.
sonic200990 7 months ago
The difference between a lion killing and eating its pray is that it has no choice it needs meat too live.
Humans have a choice in what we eat, we have a choice not too kill animals, but we do.
Also the lions pray for example has the chance to escape, were as say a pig for example has no chance.
sonic200990 7 months ago
It's natural for a human to kill an animal for food faggot.
Yeshulion 8 months ago
Ugh. You look like yourself.
Zickino167 8 months ago
Vegetarians aren't wrong for being vegetarian. People who eat meat are not wrong for eating meat. It is a life style choice. You can be healthy both ways.
Spyraleyed777 8 months ago
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TheKingCameron 8 months ago
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keikokitty189 8 months ago
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...The Lion can eat the gazel because it HAS to, we on the other hand have alternatives...if we got rid of the slaughter houses and such we would have a lot more area for crops, your video has flaws..
Risus1212 9 months ago
@Risus1212 Meat eaters eat cows and cows produce methane and methane is damaging our ozone layer and damaging the earth.
Vegetarians eat plants, plants help get rid of Methane which helps not damage the ozonelayer which damages our earth. Now which one do you think does more damage? The one who is getting rid of a problem to the earth by making it a food source or the ones who eat the one thing that gets rid of the dangers that damage the ozonelayer by eating it?
Superior? no "inferior"
SpikedYum 9 months ago
@SpikedYum
i'm not gonna argue with you
but you realize your food source is something that was a living breathing thing..right?
and that we have enough trees and plants for consumption and for helping out the ozone..soo..yeah
Risus1212 9 months ago
@Risus1212
Yes we do but if everyone became vegitarians it would be completely different because then everyone would be getting rid of our plannets defence helper. You dont want to argue because you know I made a very good point that you cant counter. Thats why you opened the discussion with "Im not going to argue with you" to try dismiss what my point was and then right after tried to open up a new part by sayin "you know its a living thing".
SpikedYum 9 months ago
@Risus1212
So yes I do know it was a living thing but the fact is you are destroying the things that we need around to wsurvive and keep the earth good and then you encourage people to eat thje things we need around to survive instead of eat the things that cause a problem so no when you say your better for taking away what we need to survive and that saying were worse than you because we made a problem into a food source then you are completely wrong.
SpikedYum 9 months ago
@Risus1212
If you dont want to argue about the point "I made" instead of tryiong to dismiss it because its a good point then dont reply to me because its obvious you are trying to figure out a way to try say vegetarians are better but when I give you information that proves you wrong you have nothing better to say is "Im not going to argue with you". If you werrent going to argue with me then what was the point in commenting back to me?
SpikedYum 9 months ago
@SpikedYum I was correcting you.
what you said didn't make sense
Risus1212 9 months ago
@Risus1212
Aha aw how cute so I make a logical statement and all you have is "it didnt make sense". Ok let me simplify it for you. Plants are needed to protect earths ozone layer and vegetarians eat the things that protect earths atmosphere (plants).
Cows prodice Methan which damages the ozone layer and meat eaters get rid of that problem by making it into a food source. Meat eaters eat the things that damage earths ozone layer while vegetarians each things that protect earths ozone layer.
SpikedYum 9 months ago
@SpikedYum Your a very funny person :)
i'm guessing you didn't take the time to actually READ my first reply to you huh?
well...read it again I guess
Risus1212 9 months ago
@SpikedYumFAR more plants are killed in order to provide the feed for animals raised in meat dairy and egg production than those used by a vegan. By funding the industries BREEDING these animals, you are funding repeated breeding of the animals producing so much methane, and the killing of far more plants. 80% of deforestation of the Amazon is a direct result of animal agri-business clearing land to plant and kill more plants and breed more cows.
TrevynPlantard 9 months ago
@Risus1212
Now if that doesnt make sense to you (which im sure it does) then you are just saying it doesnt make sense then it is obvious you arent trying to find the truth of which is better for earth you are just trying to make it sound like your food choice makes youa better person which it clearly doesnt.
SpikedYum 9 months ago
@SpikedYum I never said it did...and I TOLD you why it doesn't make sense,
plus..the methane is produced from cows..we breed for food...
Risus1212 9 months ago
@Risus1212
No. you havent said anything that proves what I said wrong. Maybe I didnt get the message but everything I have seen hasnt excluded my fact.
SpikedYum 9 months ago
@SpikedYum okay well, what I just said is probably good enough, we BREED the cows that produce the methane if we didnt do that then..well you can do the math.. I'm sure your an awesome person but we just don't agree...I have my FACTS and you have your FACTS..lets just leave it at that..have a good day bro :)
Risus1212 9 months ago
And he apparently can't tell the difference between eating crops which might harm some animals indirectly and is NECESSARY TO LIVE and killing far more animals as a part of the NECESSITY of eating meat and is NOT NECESSARY TO LIVE.
AEgamesFtw 10 months ago
Paused 1:40. This guy is a moron. If a lion could easily survive without killing and was sentient enough to fully understand his actions and take responsibility for it, thinking about the ethical considerations of his diet then YES OF COURSE IT WOULD BE YOU FUCKING CRETIN! But they can't moron. We are intelligent enough to have to be responsible for our fucking actions. If we could persuade the lion not to kill the animals like we can humans then uh....yes? Yes it would be reasonable?
AEgamesFtw 10 months ago
@AEgamesFtw Oh dear god, please tell me you're a troll. No one can honestly be THIS STUPID.
kattwoman17 10 months ago
@kattwoman17 Wow. Your comment is almost as stupid as you yourself. You realize that just calling me stupid and offering absolutely NOTHING to counter my argument just makes you look like a drooling braindead idiot? Notice that when I called him a moron, I followed it with a full paragraph explaining why?
Fucking idiots.
AEgamesFtw 10 months ago
@AEgamesFtw Ah. So you are indeed just plain stupid. Evidently someone never bothered to study the anatomy of a lion. Another difference between lions and humans is that of our physiology. Lions are meant to sustain themselves on meat. Humans (without the advances we have made as a society) are not meant to survive on only one food source. If lions had the same intelligence and self-awareness that we as humans had, the only thing that would change is that it would be easier for them to hunt us.
kattwoman17 10 months ago
@kattwoman17 Something is telling you missed the point. Read my original comment.
AEgamesFtw 10 months ago
your a retard not because this video your just the worst thing ever to happen on youtube and one more question are you high???
cacapoopyshire2010 11 months ago
it's vegetarian, check your spelling dumbass.
TabithaGerken13 11 months ago
Ah! I'm so young and impressionable! I actually think that killing innocent animals is WRONGG!
I've been BRAINWASHED!! GOD HELP MEEE
awxish 11 months ago 7
You do realize that rain forests, which harbor many more amphibians and reptiles, are being wipe outed for farming land?
Also the "natural" argument is getting old and tired. Take a look around. What the fuck are humans doing that is so natural? We are not obligated by the laws of nature anymore. So in that, there is a choice. We are so beyond animality, that we have the choice to enslave entire species, or stop eating animals altogether.
TheBurningBuddhist 11 months ago
hahahaha.... retarded vegans, living a life of denial. these faggots refuse to hear anything they don't want to and do nothing but spout nonsense they read in pamphlets.
xailu34 1 year ago
Whats the difference between humans and lions?
think about that for a second.
SuperMrsnowman 1 year ago
That is not true. We have tearing teeth, we are omnivores, similar to bears. We have a medium sized gut length so we can eat vegetables and meat. Furthermore, this new age of city-dwelling, out-of-touch with the environment vegetarians is a tiny fraction of human existence. For hundreds of thousands of years, all of mankind were hunters/gatherers and subsisted on meat protein.Even today there are cultures (think Eskimo) that follow this strategy.
dovemaiden333 1 year ago
Retard, humans are natural vegetarions, our jaw structures are not made to eat meat.
Johsbk 1 year ago
Try urging an Eskimo living at the mouth of the Yukon River, and living on salmon and caribou, to give up meat.
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ErlynnRadke 1 year ago
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chriStopHerSoto 1 year ago
Humans are actually a not natural meat eaters. If you look at our jaw structures, it is that of a herbivore.
Also a lion killing a gazelle, well that is the lions food source, that is what the lion survives by. But us humans, we have intelligence and kitchens. Also meat is not necessity, we do not need it.
And if you are serious about Onision killing himself, then you must be messed up. No one should be wished death.
Also if your serious about your opinions don't disguise yourself coward.
NoHorrorCliches 1 year ago 2
You are obviously an idiot. Just because you see that killing animals is fine and justifiable, those innocent animals would not have to be farmed that way, or at all if people realised that we could survive without meat. That we could be happier and healthier without needing the consumption of meat. That these animals could have had a life and a family, and died peacefully. But no, we must eat the animals, that's the only logical answer, it's not like we could survive any other way, wait, we can
ASadderDay 1 year ago
Ok um i live on a farm and i take care of all the animals on it. I even live within walking range of a national forest but i have no desire to kill anything that doesn't need to die for me to survive. It is not the same for humans to kill animals as other animals kill other animals because out in the wild animals actually fight to survive while OBESE PEOPLE go out and kill an animals and then lie and say the protect them.
DarkVoid992 1 year ago
For thou shouldst be mindful that though what is thus compounded seem to thee of marvelous subtlety, it is as nothing compared with the soul that dwells within this structure; and in truth, whatever this may be, it is a divine thing which suffers it thus to dwell within its handiwork at its good pleasure, and wills not that thy rage or malice should destroy such a life, since in truth he who values it not does not deserve it. -Leonardo da Vinci
DarkVoid992 1 year ago
slow down o_O
HorazioZan 1 year ago
uncletroll below is a smart person
funkster22657 1 year ago
Did Onision ever even respond to this? :o
Artemis750 1 year ago
You are so stupid. Yes. Lions and tigers and bears kill other animals. But do they know how to chop up a bush and eat there greens? Do they know how to jump in trees and feed off of apples or berries? Giraffes stay strong and healthy eating trees, and even dinosaurs lived on plants. We are capable to make a decision. There for, we are not depending on meat to live. fucktard.
jmunky123 1 year ago
@jmunky123 It's great to see everyone's not calling each other a fucktard here.
...Wait.
I do believe if they put their minds to it doing such things would be simple. In fact, they very well can do such things - especially with their claws - but they eat meat simply because they are such creatures. Humans are not supposed to be simply herbivores. For example, take a gander at your teeth. Around the front they're sharp and around the back they're rather dull. Wouldn't you think we wouldn't
Artemis750 1 year ago
@Artemis750 Evolution...In early years, We didnt know because everything was survival. But now that we have everything handed to us, unless you live in a third world contry, You are perfectly capable of living a herbibore diet. Have you ever had a salad? An apple? anything but meat? If other vegetarians can survive for so long, i think meat-eating fat asses can too.
jmunky123 1 year ago
@jmunky123 Some families live in countries like America but still can't afford this herbivore diet as - believe it or not - not all families are quite rich or middle-class.
And I just have to shake my head at that meat-eating fat ass comment. Don't go Emo Charlie on omnivores by calling them all overweight punks, or we'll go Arnold Schwartzeneger on herbivores by calling them all puny sticks and shells of men.
Artemis750 1 year ago
@jmunky123 While I'm not saying you can't live without meats, your body would essentially perform better with the proteins in meat. With the proper exercise and consumption of foods (not just meats but also fruits and vegetables) you could have a healthy, fit lifestyle.
Artemis750 1 year ago
@jmunky123 have sharp teeth if such things were true?
Oh and, by the way, it is you who is stupid, my dear watson. Bears eat berries.
trololol.
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MuleKist 1 year ago
@MuleKist THERE ARE BLIND MUSHROOMS? SOMEONE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
Artemis750 1 year ago
@Artemis750 - Ask Annoying Orangemakers to give them some eyes. Together WE CAN make a difference! roflao
MuleKist 1 year ago
Why not educate the children on ALL aspects of our food production, including meat and the cruelty involved? Or do we want them to grow up "in caves" like blind little mushrooms, always in the dark?
MuleKist 1 year ago
Why do people put on masks???? Is it to entertain people??? Its stupid and the high voice makes it more stupid, i hate this guy, thumbs down to his videos!!!!!
JACKASS11793 1 year ago
What about the health factor troll fag?
Loustrikesagain 1 year ago
His intention is to cause as little harm as possible which means not eating meat without killing himself or harming anyone, which is obvious so in turn, proves your ignorance.
TheAdontaco 1 year ago
And for the record, I've been on both sides of the topic too. Used to be a vegetarian, then tried to be a vegan, and eventually went back to eating meat and everything else. So I'm not being one-sided if I sound like it, I've been on both ends of the topic.
roikuchan 1 year ago
Interesting topic, my only reasoning is that the lion has to kill animals, without meat it dies. It's stomach and body isn't designed like ours is to function just on fruits, vegetables, and non-meat products. That's like trying to feed a lion tofu for the rest of its life, it'll die, but a person won't if they eat it because we're omnivores. Our bodies can consume most things, even some people in this world can eat raw meat. Other than that, I agree with both sides of the topic.
roikuchan 1 year ago
Good on you for doing this video, Onision really bothers me with the garbage he spouts on about, UncleTroll for president.
TonyOneKenobi 1 year ago
Fucking cocksucker trying to make onision look fake. Instant flagging for false accusation
TheSuperiorChaotix 1 year ago
@TheSuperiorChaotix Wow. You're a perfect example of what is wrong with youtube. Greg is a big boy, AND a big partner. Don't you think if he wanted to, he could have this video taken down? Grow up, you sad little fan-tard.
kattwoman17 10 months ago
Nice shot! Made me hungry though...
Howlinatthemoon 1 year ago
You're comparing a lion's mind set to that of a human? Unlike most animals humans do not base their actions primarily on instinct but rather their observation of the world and with a sense of what can be done to change the observed injustices. As the dominant species on this planet we no longer need to base our survival on the suffering and exploitation of other species, we've progressed to such a point where we can manipulate the environment to our advantage and no longer need to live this way
OxiDemonik 1 year ago
finaly someone proves onision wrong
bioniclefan1999 1 year ago
Hmm will he respond? I know we will see REtweets from underaged follower of his. That bothers me a bit.
Keep on YouTubin!
kiddsock 1 year ago
I AM A HORRIBLE PERSON. I EAT MEAT. I LOVE MEAT. I HAD A BURGER FOR DINNER!
bluethelonewolfen 1 year ago
I couldn't watch this video because the voice is stupid and not funny.
OmfgJJsikBITCH 1 year ago
its not about not killing animals, its about killing the least amount of them and reduce the impact that meat eating creates to our health, economy and even morals.
We are always killing animals when we build and expand so I find that a bogus reason to stop creating crop fields since creating animal farms have the same effect on the poor little frogs you have so much concern about.
S3FLionheart 1 year ago 26
@S3FLionheart,
a very good point.
by your logic of least kills, it forces you to become fruitarian in order to be consistent. Given there wouldn't be another diet to sustain yourself. Good luck.
Whino100 1 year ago
WAT THE FUK man if you think Onision is bad which in opinion he isn't. why do you have to do things like this. sure people can understand quite clerly what he me.ans. But if you have to stoop so low to completely bring him down like this your no better than the opinion you think of onision
Frank80264 1 year ago
SLOW DOWN WHEN U TALK U FRED
STARCO1231 1 year ago 30
I'm sorry but to me absolutely none of your arguements are acceptable. The lion example: Lion's are born carnivores, they are made to eat meat. If you watch his videos on vegetarianism there is one with a mindblowing arguement. He states the facts about our anatomy and we have the same anatomy as herbivores. The crops: some animals may be killed but when making meat it is guaranteed that many animals will be killed.
zer0243 1 year ago 2
..... Um, you just proved Onision's point even better than he has in his own videos. You do realize that land also has to be cleared to create fields FOR LIVESTOCK? And barns? Habitat is destroyed either way.
Jokaanan 1 year ago 4
could you please slow down when you talk? I'm having serious trouble understanding you
BlacktailTheFox 1 year ago
Oh my god, It just goes to show how wrong people can be, onision and all the others that choose to judge us for eating meat need a reality check, and you just gave it to them :D WELL DONE !
eleanor839 1 year ago
Your videos usually bug me, at least you dogged on a true asshole...props!
mrd00d 1 year ago
down with Onision he has no right to stuff his beliefs down peoples thoughts first telling people to give up meat because it kills animals but yet the vegetables that he eats kills animals when they are farmed and now what he is doing attacking Shay Carl about is baby son's circumcision is just not right nether Onision has no right to tell Shay how to raise his kids i say we all should do something about Onision all the members of the Uncle Troll nation, Shay Tards should all band together!
solidmatt442 1 year ago
Many vegetarians make the outrageous claim that it's NOT natural for humans to eat meat! This is a FLAT OUT LIE! Scientest KNOW it's a lie. we have Canine teeth which are designed for one purpose, ripping meat. The appendix had ONE purpose (although we have since lost the use of it) the appendix was the part of the digestive system that allowed us to eat RAW meat safely! Any of these Vegens who make this claim I liken to Medeival Christians and their MYTHS!
Onewitnessus 1 year ago
@Onewitnessus Actually the appendix has many uses. Don't use wikipedia. Stay current. The veggies use outdated information, that doesn't mean we should.
peaches97778 1 year ago
@peaches97778 I"m 50 years old and I do NOT use wikipedia. I was around when they finally DISCOVERED what the human apendix was originally used for. NO it does NOT have "many" uses. In fact, in humans it's utterly useless and that's why they can remove it! For years it was a MYSTERY what it was originally for! Since humans cook their food the appendix has become obsolete.
Onewitnessus 1 year ago
@Onewitnessus You can remove it, but it still has many uses. It plays a role in many bodily functions. It's just not the sole organ involved in any of the essential ones.
peaches97778 1 year ago
@peaches97778 That is simply NOT true at all!
Onewitnessus 1 year ago
@Onewitnessus Wikianswers then. Are you trying to suggest that an organ can de-evolve into obsolescence in such a short time? People were saying the same shit about the pineal gland until 1960. Anyway, save me some time replying. Read some CURRENT medical material on the subject. I won't be giving this troll asshole OR onision any more views. I think they are both idiots and neither of them affect my dietry choices.
peaches97778 1 year ago
You are so fucking awesome!
Shadowdyce11 1 year ago
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aww shaycarl is so cute :3
UncleTroII 1 year ago
Thank you Uncle Troll. I have found Onisions videos of one sided views and utter arrogance to deny anybody elses opinion appalling. I too am the same that I enjoy (enjoyed) his videos but I've found that his force feeding of vegan-ism has turned me off him all together. My mother has been a vegetarian since she was 17 years old. I do not look down on anybody who leads a life their way but Onision... Well that guy's just a plain old prick!
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So lets all not give a shit and kill for fun!?
I dont know about u but I would not want anybody to have to live in a world like that. Besides, thats no excuse to be disrispectful to those that died, and the ones that did to keep u alive.
Sadly the world is a evil place, but atleast some people are striving to make it better for everone... Cant u see that? I hate the idea of anyone that suffers, do u?
Proberly not because ur a freak who hides behind a mask.
IBrandedHater 1 year ago
can't we just eat the vegetarians? solve the whole deal and such? what? oh you're right stringy,anemic,meat without much nutritional value..ok then..let's grind 'em all up for mulch so's they can feed the earth..good idea right,right??
SunDown419 1 year ago
@SunDown419 Very good idea!
sheddedtears123 1 year ago
You should be banned from YOUTUBE
skipastar1 1 year ago
onision fails lol
murrymurrymurrymurry 1 year ago
ULTRA COMBOOOOOOOOO
xFATALxAtomicx 1 year ago
i'm a vegetarian, but i do it because it's scientifically proven that the hormones in meat are likely to cause cancer. since i am more likely to have cancer because my mom had cancer, i choose not to eat meat. i've never been healthier.
aiiirdryy 1 year ago
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"m a vegetarian, but i do it because it's scientifically proven that the hormones in meat are likely to cause cancer."
You know, it is possible to buy meat without the hormones/antibiotics, you know. Problem is, it is more expensive for one.
travelsonic 1 year ago
Did Onision ever respond? Or did he run and hide like he always does when posed with a debate?
MrChaos667 1 year ago
@MrChaos667 Are you kidding me? Run and hide? Onision never shuts up. He's always responding to haters and what not.
OmfgJJsikBITCH 1 year ago 3
Did Onision ever respond?
MrChaos667 1 year ago
thanks for posting.
newperson2 1 year ago
you do make a good point.
EKwescotv 1 year ago
I love you.
You have said any argument I have thought in a much more intelligent manner.
garnetbaby26164 1 year ago
dude this iS so true our next generation is a generation of ignorant hippies
benpie12 1 year ago
When the farmers are cropping those fields for those delicious vegetables, well they are killing animals too. frogs, turtles, snakes, birds, and even some larger animals like fox, raccoons, squirrels etc...
Ok so your way still kills way less animals I get it. But your argument is for the love of all animals. You must starve Greg Onision to live up to your beliefs. It is all in my video response. You have no further argument.
UncleTroll 1 year ago
@UncleTroll You make a good point. Too often killing goes unnoticed.
There are sustainable ways of reducing this number of deaths of animals, insects, worms, and other creatures effected by tilling. Too often farmers are overworked and underpaid and allow these atrocities to go on. Since agriculture has been industrialized, many areas use factory and commercial farming to raise hundreds of acres of uncared-for plants and animals in poor living conditions under the pretext of reducing costs.
marleysherb 1 year ago
@UncleTroll You give the same argument many meat eaters do. I have heard this before and argued with it before, there is no use. I am not going to change your opinion, eat meat if you wish, but don't judge us for not eating it,
iwdfan 1 year ago 2
@UncleTroll Unca Troll..G.M.A.Regulations on what you can grow,MON-FUCKIN'_SANTO and the management of seeds..maybe the vegetarians will get what's there's going to be served at the "Last Supper" of man.Of course all the garbage they feed our meat"Read..mass trapped farms" is just as bad..and the salmon..well long and short..we're JWF..jolly well fucked.
and Unca..fuck them who hate..the opinions who matter are the one's you know you love and love you ..anyways..rep and all..FUCK ALL BUT 6
SunDown419 1 year ago
Vegetarians who say the meat industry being crap is the reason for their vegetarianism? Then go to a local farm! Order grass-fed meat from a small farm instead of walmart. It's sustainable and doesn't have all the crap industrial meat does.
XxPnuemaxX 1 year ago
@celt130 again how can you say anything about what animals do or don't feel, you have no right to say that animals don't feel guilt when you don't know and the fact that you think peole are superior is just ridiculous, people are the reason for global warming, they invented war, and show less guilt than any animal, we put animals through so much, drugging them and cooking them alive and most
RealLifeSkating 1 year ago
well the problem is obvious, overpopulation means meat has to be unnaturally industrialized, but also perpetuates hunger where the industry of food isn't as easily reached, but the solution to both problems, overpopulation and hunger, is just as obvious, everyone should eat someone they don't like. Hunger. solved. Population, down by at least half. Best of all, the popel who will be going away are only people who suck. I/E Youtube staff, Republicans, and the like
VinnyVanYiffy 1 year ago 4
@VinnyVanYiffy sounds good to me lets start with who ever approved the new beta design :p
UncleTroll 1 year ago 5
@UncleTroll I ate Brian Glick months ago
VinnyVanYiffy 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming Moderate vegans pay for those extremists posting here.They use any means to get to there goal so many omnivores are getting on the attack now.Personnaly I never attack vegans for what they are but for the arguments they use,that is why we are talking now.On what do omnivores attack you and where does it come from you think?
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming What do you find here on this media?Hundreds of vegan material trying to convince omnivores that either, we are not supposed to eat meat, or meat is bad for your health,or meat is bad for the environment, or meat is not moral.And I surly forget some. Do you see omnivores post hundreds of such material trying to convert vegans?
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming That is why you are wrong on my intentions.You think I care you are a vegan?You are free to do so,as I am to be an omnivore.That is also the big difference between you and me.I respect your freedom,you don't respect mine.I simply attack your wrong arguments with science as science is on my side.All the arguments you can ever use are destroyed by science and data.
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming The enzyme argument is surely something you found on some vegan website as it is related to the famous"carnivores have higher acidity in there stomach then humans,humans have an acidity level related to herbivores"argument.If you actually study this you will notice it is not the acidity who counts but the PH.Carnivores 2,humans 3,herbivores around5/6.
celt130 1 year ago
Why did I cop paste scientific studies about the Inuits, simply because you surly believe meat bring you heart diseases and cancer as this is one favorite vegan argument. So I just destroyed that one before you or any other vegan starts about that subject.The vegan movement is from the 20th century, never where there vegans in ancient history because of the health issue.Prove me wrong if you can.
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming Aren't you the one who says humans aren't supposed to eat meat because it isn't natural?Because we don't have some special enzyme in our
digestive system.The B12 vitamin tottaly destroys your argument as does the vitamin D under our latitudes.Also Iodine and calcium is another nail to your coffin.I didn't hear any reply about cattle not killing grass...
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming Archaeologic evidence shows that early humans did find such a means. Stone tools and cut marks on bones dating back more
than 2 million years are evidence that animal carcasses were
butchered (6). However, although these and later material
remains indicate meat eating.
Hunter-gatherer diets—a different perspective1,2
Katharine Milton
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming Mixed farming systems make the largest contribution to world livestock products with just over 50 per cent of the meat and 90 per cent of the milk currently consumed being produced in such systems (Council for Agricultural Science and Technology, 1999, quoted in Van Keulen and Schiere, 2004).Not everything is industrial.What more do you want me to debunk?
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming Doesn't meat give you heart diseases?Same data coming from the Abkhaze people who are renowned for there old age and who eat fat. Meat must be realy bad for your health...
celt130 1 year ago
The daily feeding pattern consisted of four meals. The first three
were generally of 200-250 g portions of dried meats.The fourth and largest meal of the day was usually a stew, made with flesh, bones, marrow and selected viscera of terrestrial and marine mammals and birds.Few
plants are available in the vicinity of Kutuervik; they formed an incidental
part of the diet.Vitamin C in the Diet of Inuit Hunters From
Holman, Northwest Territories
JOSEPH R. GERACI and THOMAS G. SMITH
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaDewailly says the traditional Inuit diet is high in selenium,common to whale skin,and explains why prostate cancer is almost unheard of in the north,as are most other cancers.Cardiovascular disease is rare,likely because the Inuit diet remains rich in game."The traditional Inuit diet is fats and proteins,no sugar at all,"Dewailly "It is probably one of the healthiest diets you can haveming
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming In Greenland atherosclerosis is a more or less unknown disease. For example, in the 1970s there was not a single death due to cardiovascular disease in the hunting district of Uummannaq with about 3,000 inhabitants. In recent years some Greenlanders have moved to Denmark. Following the same pattern as elsewhere in the world, these immigrants have contracted the same cardiovascular diseases as the Danes
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming However, strong evidence exists of a decrease in traditional food consumption by the Inuit, primarily from 1950 to 1970, when Inuit populations settled into permanent communities and market foods became increasingly available (18, 19). In several native populations, a shift away from traditional lifestyles and diets is associated with an increased prevalence of risk factors for CVD, such as high blood pressure, elevated blood lipids, diabetes, and obesity
celt130 1 year ago
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@JamesIsDreaming As early as 1908 the Danish doctors Krogh & Krogh studied the Greenlandic diet. They demonstrated that Greenlanders were the most meat-eating population known at that time.The Danish doctors Bang and Dyerberg confirmed this in the studies they made between 1970 and 1979.Inuit who have lived on the diet of the western world have developed atherosclerosis just as in Europe and the USA.Atherosclerosis is still not a widespread disease in Greenland
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming What I understand is that you use arguments you cannot prove either with data or science. I proved you are wrong concerning meat in the Inuit population and the fact they didn't know heart diseases and almost no cancers. This is opposite to what you and most vegans claim.The difference is that I use data and science to prove my point.
celt130 1 year ago
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@JamesIsDreaming There has never been any healthy vegan population in history,only vegetarians.Veganism dates from 1944 when"the vegan society"was created.If you would from birth never eat meat or fish you wouldn't get to 10 years old,not maybe even 5.You would die of lack of B12,D vitamin,calcium,Iodine.That is why you need chemicals to be able to live now.
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming If they eat grass they don't kill anything, you don't need to be smart to understand this very simple fact...
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming The problem for you is I can scientifically prove what I say , but can you?
celt130 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming: I believe it was morals. Or was it what is a natural diet?
BLHProductions 1 year ago
@BrookieBaine Your welcome. Just think about it.
Sims2players 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming: See this is what I mean. My facts are false and yours are true. And it's not like part of them are true, eating plants is part of a health human diet, but so is meat. I think because I disagree with you, you think I am more extreme then I really am.
BLHProductions 1 year ago
@JamesIsDreaming: No, if that was true then everything would be true wouldn't it?
What I was saying is that what I use are facts about the human diet. However because those facts don't agree with what you think they are wrong. It's like saying that doctors and scientists are wrong but not the ones saying a vegan diet is the best to have.
Please do try and keep up.
BLHProductions 1 year ago
@BrookieBaine I'll tell you what I told him. I think you should work on your research a little bit. Animals are carnivores, that's why the lion eats the gazelle. Not to mention the fact we are more self aware than the animals. Humans are built to consume fruits and grains, not flesh.
And for the end; Vegetarians eat vegetables and grains out of necessity. Meat eaters eat the flesh of the innocent out of a desire.
Contrast. And common sense.
Sims2players 1 year ago
I think you should work on your research a little bit. Animals are carnivores, that's why the lion eats the gazelle. Not to mention the fact we are more self aware than the animals. Humans are built to consume fruits and grains, not flesh.
And for the end; Vegetarians eat vegetables and grains out of necessity. Meat eaters eat the flesh of the innocent out of a desire.
Contrast. And common sense.
Sims2players 1 year ago
@Sims2players Simple reply to your propaganda. Do not ever eat meat or fish from when you are born and you will not get to 10 years of age and you will be mentally disabled. You will not maybe even get to 5 years old. B12, D vitamin, calcium,Iodine is missing in your"natural"diet.Without chemicals you wouldn't survive.
celt130 1 year ago
@celt130 But you see, that's where you are wrong. There are some people who have gone their entire life without meat.
You can get b12, d vitamin and all that good stuff without meat. You are wrong. Do your research.
Sims2players 1 year ago
@Sims2players There where never people before the 20th century.The B12 vegans use is called"Cyanocobalamin"it's a man made vitamin,doesn't exist in nature.There is also no vitamin D in plants.Vitamin D2 is manufactured by the UV irradiation of ergosterol in yeast, and vitamin D3 is manufactured by the irradiation of 7-dehydrocholesterol from lanolin and the chemical conversion of cholesterol
celt130 1 year ago
@celt130 *Yawn* I'm not a vegan. I'm a vegetarian. But, either way, I rather put myself at some danger, then kill innocent animals that have feeling - just like me
Sims2players 1 year ago
@Sims2players From veganhealth.
There are no reliable, unfortified plant sources of vitamin B12 (see B12 in Tempeh, Seaweeds, Organic Produce, and Other Plant Foods for more information); therefore fortified foods and/or supplements are necessary for the optimal health of vegans and even vegetarians in many cases.You should do some research...
celt130 1 year ago
@celt130 Once again, no. You are again wrong. Supplements are not necessary. Just eat right.
Sims2players 1 year ago
@Sims2players: Just eat right is the same for all diets, including vegans and omnivores, and everyone else. Now on overall ease and expense, eating meat is the best. Look at how difficult it is to eat a real vegan diet. It's nearly impossible to because we don't use animals solely for meat.
BLHProductions 1 year ago