@wilgax100 You're a nasty person, you know that? I looked at your channel and profile, and you just aren't nice to anybody. Because I want only sensible, rational, and intelligent people to respond to my videos, I am BLOCKing you. It's not because I hate Romanians, but because I don't like nasty people like YOU!!!!!
...Slovenian town (just after the WWII).. Some parts of Istria are totally Slovenian.but I only feel that NOW the right for some kind of teritorial autonomy has a community in Italy... So I am not sure when historical claim is important.It is important..but not as much as the present state of affairs and most of all the conduct of those affairs (they must be very smart because every sign of moral non-integrity by any member of the community will be in unfriendly enviroment used against them x100
3. ... they refused nothing less then separation.. even when they were offered AUTONOMY. They responded with shells and bullets.
So to make a long story short.... Sometimes it is the process that is important.
If we look of another example... Slovenians have large communities living in AUSTRIA, ITALY and CROATIA (Istria) and they have a historical right to separation or autonomy in all 3 countries. (Slovenian dukes were crowned in lands now owning Austria, TRST (Trieste) was a largest...
As far as the autonomy goes...Lets look at the recent event.. Lets say that i am sympatetic towards croatians.. But in 1991 the Serbs in Croatia had in my opinion historically and nominal "LEGITIMITE" rights for autonomy or even separation.(you must look a litlle bit a history of Austria and A-H..). On the other hand the croatian had an equal right on those lands.. But the SERBS blew it. 1.They went into war (not just armed rebellion) 2. They condected war without any moral obligation and..
@westindia100 Like everyone else who lost anything (or, in mopst cases, everything), they are recompensed with reparations. One reason that Slovakia and the Czech Republic will not revoke or rescind the Benes decrees is that they are afraid, then, that they will have to pay billions of dollars in reparations to the Hungarians and
Germans from whom they stole everything. And, meanwhile, Romania refuses to grant autonomy to Hungarian Szekelys for the same reason.
I am not against foreign investment... I just think that Hungary sold out in an far larger extend that they should. I do not think that this is healty for a country
@westindia100 It is healthy unless the revenue is mismanaged by corrupt politicians, as it was (and is) by Hungarian leaders. Sadly, the revenue, instead of going back into the economy, lined the pockets of crooked politicians destroying the economy of the country. This led to increased indebtedness by the country, one which is currently, slowly being repaid (to IMF) at the great expense of the individual taxpayer.
@EuroAmerican02 wake up!what bank in the history of the world banking gave money for no interest or personal growth?in romania the president of the national bank says that romania have no nedd for loans.after his remark a team from IMF came in romania and says : "you need a new loan and attention you need to tight the belt more." in fact romania is the country with the smalles absortion of the UE founds (!?) they want to save the greece economy by making 20% unemployment of the population (!?)
And what does it matter to have a Homeland of all people of one nationality if everything else (banks, companies, resourses ) are owned by somebody foreign anyway?
@westindia100 In my opinion, it is far better to have non-resident investments in your country than to have foreigners living right next door to you. Which do you prefer?
To answer your other idea, autonomy could resolve many of the differences that exist, but there is so much more than that involved, that even territorial autonomy could not be fully satisfactory to all parties.
But how to divide an area where there are enclaves within the enclaves? Is there a solution that can satisfy all... without sacrifieces... I do not think so... In my opinion the idea of national state needs to be redifined... in something that could not related directly to the territory that one state ocupies. If one autonomous entity acts unformally as a unity the state borders are not the problems. The problems in Europe lies that the states are willingly try to force unity..
@westindia100 In my humble opinion, any territory that could be subdivided in "good conscience" 91 years ago can be reapportioned in "better conscience" nearly a century later. Trianon must be reviewed and revised by an international court, who presided over the dismemberment of Hungary in 1920. If they rule that the Vienna Accord still prevails, then Hungary would be re-awarded southern Slovakia, northern Transylvania, & Voivodina.
Well you see.... Hungary was two times on the wrong side of the world war. Croatia was only once_ then it was "punished" by victors with territory . Istra and parts of Dalmatia went to Italy..(after WWI) So this the way it goes... But I understand your point of view... A lot of Croatians are FORCED to live now with muslims in BOSNIA in one state. But i do not see solution within the FORMAL ways of STATES.(war?) Maybe only through mutual consent the states should exchange territories...
@westindia100 First, thank you for your courteous and thoughtful reply. Next, please remember that, at the outbreak of WWI, a dual monarchy existed between Hungary and Austria, the Austro-Hungarian Empire. So, Hungary was more or less compelled to enter WWI with Austria, even though Hungary had wanted and intended to remain a neutral country. I'd also like to point out that, despite fighting on the losing side, it was Hungarian common people, not the government, who suffered.
@westindia100 This set a precedent, as it had always been governments who were punished, not the population. It was a dangerous precedent that later, after WWII, led to Czechoslovakia's Edvard Benes series of decrees predicated upon the notion that ALL Hungarians & Germans were "war criminals". Tell me how a grandfather or an old mother can be considered a war criminal.
@westindia100 In effect, this decree allowed the government to unlawfully usurp the real and personal property of Hungarians and Germans, who, thus, forfeited their Czechoslovakian citizenship. Where's the justice? Anyway, the Benes decrees remain in effect to this date! In fact, they were reaffirmed by Slovakia only last year! That's one obstacle to peace between Hungary and Slovakia and the Czech Republic.
@westindia100 Croatia's situation is far worse, since you have to live side-by-side with Muslims...descended from Hitler's Muslims, by way of the Muslim Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who came to Europe to form an antisemitic bond with Hitler. Such border disputes as to which both Hungary and Croatia have fallen victim can be peacefully resolved only under an international court of competent jurisdiction.
This is funny. A poor Hungary who sold most of their everything that moves and stands... wants to anex parts of poorer countries like serbia and romania.... As far the nationality figures some of the towns in serbia could be croatian as well. but they are not! Every nation in this part of europe has similar maps and if you read some books you would know that 1910 census of population was influnced heavily by the rulling nations Austrians and Hungarians. I am not saying that is completly false.
@westindia100 If you understood the Hungarian people and government, you would not find us or the situation funny at all. Let me explain. Neither mainstream Hungarian society nor the Hungarian is well represented here on YouTube. Those who are here, for the most part, are considered right-wing extremists who refer to themselves as "radical nationalists," but who are, in fact, fascists and neo-Nazis.
@westindia100 THEY are the only ones with dreams of the former unity of the Kingdom of Hungary (pre-1920), NOT the people or the ruling political party in Hungary today. Unfortunately, and sad to tell, those who yell the loudest on YouTube are NOT representative of the majority of the voting public in Hungary, and, because the extremists have little or no voice in reality, they resort to this website to express their outdated and often detrimental ideals and goals.
@westindia100 I should also add that the unfortunate situation created by an unjust peace treaty in 1920 causes problems not only for Hungarians, but also for Hungary's neighboring countries, who want nothing more than to be free of ethnic minority Hungarians in their respective countries.
@westindia100 This unpleasant and disastrous condition was brought about by the unfair, deceitful and completely inaccurate ethnic demographics of pre-1920, wherein Tthe Trianon treaty did NOT subdivide Hungary based on demographics, contrary to popular belief, but went beyond ethnic boundaries to award other countries, like Czechoslovakia and Romania, territories they were not entitled to.
@westindia100 That is why today Slovakia has an almost 10% ethnic Hungarian minority (600,000 Hungarians), and that is also why Transylvania has more than 1.3 million remaining ethnic Hungarians. In reality, northern Transylvania should never have been annexed to Romania, and northern Hungary (Felvidek) should never have been annexed to Czechoslovakia.
@westindia100 Therein lie the problems being experienced internationally in Europe. Trianon has served to punish everybody, instead of only the Hungarian people as it was intended to do.
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Hungarian nomads from Asia occupy Slavic territory. Vyšehrad, Novohrad, Blatnohrad, Blaténske jazero, Stoličný Belehrad(now Székesfehérvár), Ostrihom(now Esztergom), Päťkostolie(now Pécs), Miškovec(now Miskolc), Matra, Pilíš... Mongols, it is time to return home, return to ASIA!
@PerunDemon Your first statement is FALSE. Let's talk about each one of your claims. First, the name Visegrád (Vyšehrad) is of Slavic origin meaning "the upper castle" or "the upper settlement/town/fortification". In modern Slovak and Czech the spelling is Vyšehrad. Visegrád was first mentioned in 1009 as a county town and the chief town of an archdeaconry. After the destructive Mongol invasion of Europe in 1242, the town was rebuilt in a slightly different location to the south.
@PerunDemon King Charles I of Hungary made Visegrád his hometown, the royal seat of Hungary in 1325. Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor and King of Hungary, moved the royal seat to Buda between 1405-1408. King Matthias Corvinus of Hungary used Visegrád as a country residence. Visegrád lost importance after the partition of the Kingdom of Hungary following the Battle of Mohács in 1526.
@PerunDemon Visegrád was granted town privileges in 2000. "Slavic" territory? It has NOT been Slavic territory since 1242, possibly even as early as 1009, since it was merely a township then; it was only declared a town in 2000! Next ...
@PerunDemon Nógrád (Hungarian; Latin: comitatus Neogradiensis, German: Neuburg or Neograd, Slovak: Novohrad) was the name of a historic administrative county (comitatus) of the Kingdom of Hungary. Its territory is presently in southern Slovakia and in northern present-day Hungary. The name Novohrad is still used in Slovakia as an informal designation of the corresponding territory. The name stems from the former Nógrád (Novohrad) castle in present-day Hungary. "Slavic" territory?
@PerunDemon One more thing about Nograd: Nógrád was one of the first counties of the Kingdom of Hungary, founded in the 11th century. It was ruled by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1595, and from 1605 to 1686, as part of Budin Province and Egri Province. Again, I ask, "Slavic" territory? Don't make me laugh! Next ...
@PerunDemon In Hungarian, it is known as Zalavár, in Slovak as Blatnohrad, in Croatian: Blatnograd, in Serbian: Блатноград, and in German as Moosburg. It was also known as Mosapurc and Kolon. Ján Kollár called it Salavár in his travel book and described the state of the ruins in 1841. Zalavár is a village in Hungary, located in Zala county about 9 km (6 mi) southwest of Lake Balaton.
@PerunDemon In the 9th century, the city of Blatnograd/Blatnohrad, a fortified city built at the Zala River, was a capital of the Slavic Balaton Principality ruled by prince Pribina. Great Moravia was a Slavic state that existed in Central Europe and lasted for nearly seventy years in the 9th century, whose creators were the ancestors of the Czechs and Slovaks. It was a vassal state of the Germanic Frankish kingdom and paid an annual tribute to it.
@PerunDemon There is some controversy as to the actual location of its core territory. According to the greater weight of scholars, its core area lay on both sides of the Morava river, the territory of today's western Slovakia and in Moravia and Bohemia (today's Czech Republic), but the entity MAY have also extended [when?] into what are today parts of Hungary, Poland, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Romania, Ukraine and Germany.
@PerunDemon So, do you want to send home the Poles, Austrians, Slovenes, Croats, Serbs, Romanians, Ukrainians, and Germans too? "Slavic" territory? I seriously doubt it. It seemed it was anything BUT Slavic. There is no continuity in politics of this early Slavic polity and the modern Slovak nation. NEXT...
@PerunDemon Below is a list of Slovak language exonyms for towns and villages in non-Slovak-speaking areas of the World: Balaton ~ Blatenské jazero, Blatno (hist.) Bolotin. Balaton may refer to: Balaton, a village in Heves county, Northern Hungary, far from Lake Balaton.
@PerunDemon Slavic territory? The Slavic people of that time were weakly differentiated, speaking closely related dialects of the same common language. The inhabitants of the Lower Pannonia Principality were most probably closely related to each of neighboring Slavic people: Great Moravians (Western Slavs) to the north, Karantanians and Pannonians Slavs to the west and the south, and Serbs to the south-east, providing the bridge between those Slavic states and tribal unions.
@PerunDemon NEXT... Székesfehérvár is a city in central Hungary and is the 9th largest in the country. Located around 65 km (40 mi) southwest of Budapest, it is inhabited by 101,973 people (2010), with 136,995 in the Székesfehérvár Subregion. The city is the centre of Fejér county and the regional centre of Central Transdanubia. In the Middle Ages the city was a royal residence and was one of the most important cities of Hungary.
@PerunDemon 37 kings and 39 queen consorts were crowned, 15 rulers have been buried here, the diets were held and the crown jewels were kept here. The place has been inhabited since the 5th century BC. In Roman times the settlements were called Gorsium and Herculia. In about the 5th century AD, Slavic tribes began moving into the region and this place was called Belehrad or Belegrad, being a center during the Great Moravian period.
@PerunDemon This "place" did not become a town until after the Magyawrs (ancient Hungarians) arrived some 500 years later. Slavic territory? Hardly. It was fields on the open plains and hills. NEXT...Esztergom is a city in northern Hungary, 46 km north-west of the capital Budapest. It lies in Komárom-Esztergom county, on the right bank of the river Danube, which forms the border with Slovakia there.
@PerunDemon Esztergom was the capital of Hungary from the 10th till the mid-13th century when King Béla IV of Hungary moved the royal seat to Buda. Esztergom is the seat of the prímás (see Primate) of the Roman Catholic Church in Hungary. It's also the official seat of the Constitutional Court of Hungary. The city has the Keresztény Múzeum, the largest ecclesiastical collection in Hungary. Its cathedral, Esztergom Basilica is the largest church in Hungary.
@PerunDemon And YOU want to send such a people to a place where they have never been?!? Who the FUCK are YOU?!? Esztergom is one of the oldest towns in Hungary. Esztergom, as it existed in the Middle Ages, now rests under today's town. The results of the most recent archeological excavations reveal that the Várhegy (Castle Hill) and its vicinity have been inhabited since the end of the Ice Age 20,000 years ago.
@PerunDemon The first people known by name were the Celts from Western Europe, who settled in the region in about 350 BC. Slavic territory? Not quite. Should we give it back to the dead Celts? In 960, the ruling prince of the Hungarians, Géza, chose Esztergom as his residence. His son, Vajk, who was later called Saint Stephen of Hungary, was born in his palace built on the Roman castrum on the Várhegy (Castle Hill) around 969-975. OUR FIRST KING WAS BORN ON EUROPEAN SOIL!!!
Where are Celts, Romans, Cotini? Slavic people are alive you ignorant. Hungarians didn´t bulid these places, only occupy the Slavic soil. Hungarians are riders on ponies from Asia and your anomalous language is evidence.
country what is now Hungary = Slavic land
Tinutul Secuiesc(or Székely land) in Transylvania = Romanian land
@PerunDemon You're a fucking MORON! I want you off my video comments,. because you make utterly no sense at all, and I cannot afford to waste my time on imbeciles like you. So, go occupy somebody else's time and space, not mine. I gave you facts, and you hand me a bunch of SLOTAK CRAP! ~ BLOCKED ~ You want Hungarians out of Slovakia? Make us go ~ all 600,000 of us!
@PerunDemon NEXT... Pécs is the fifth largest city of Hungary, located on the slopes of the Mecsek mountains in the southwest of the country, close to its border with Croatia. It is the administrative and economical centre of Baranya county. Pécs is also the seat of Roman Catholic Diocese of Pécs. Slavic territory? Very doubtful! The city Sopianae was founded by Romans at the beginning of the 2nd century, on an area peopled by Celts and Pannoni tribes.
@EuroAmerican02 Shall we give back this "Slavic territory" to the Italians, the heirs of the ancient Romans? Its episcopate was founded in 1009 by Steven I, and the first university in Hungary was founded in Pécs in 1367 by Louis I the Great. (The largest university still resides in Pécs with about 34,000 students). What did the Slavs build there? I can't seem to remember a single accomplishment of theirs in this region.
@PerunDemon Pécs always was a multicultural city where many cultural layers are encrusted melting different values of the history of two thousand years. Hungarians, Croatians and Swabians still live in peace together in economic and cultural polarity. In 2010 Pécs was selected to be the European Capital of Culture. The area has been inhabited since ancient times, with the oldest archaeological findings being 6000 years old. Before the Roman era the place was inhabited by Celts.
@PerunDemon Slavic territory? Decidedly NOT! NEXT... Miskolc (Slovak: Miškovec) is a city in northeastern Hungary, mainly with heavy industrial background. With a population close to 170,000 (2010) Miskolc is the fourth largest city of Hungary (behind Budapest, Debrecen and Szeged; second-largest with agglomeration.) It is also the county capital of Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén and the regional centre of Northern Hungary.
@PerunDemon The area has been inhabited since ancient times – archaeological findings date back to the Paleolithic, proving human presence for over 70,000 years. Its first known dwellers were the Cotini, one of the Celt tribes. The area has been occupied by Hungarians since the "Conquest" in the late 9th century. It was named after the Miskóc clan and was first mentioned by this name around 1210 AD.
@PerunDemon Slavic territory? In whose wildest dreams? YOURS? A similar ancient history exists for each of the glorious Hungarian regions that you alluded to. Before you send us back to someplace that we did not originate from, first perhaps you ought to learn more about your own history and geography. Then, you can return to wherever it is that Moravians originated from! Moreover, for your edification, we are no more Mongolians than you are Swedish!!!
@MarkHun1 Ugy latszik most, hogy ez meg nem volt eleg neked. Sajnalom. Se a csatornamon, se itt, nem a helye az olyesmi temaknak, mint amit te akarsz velem targyalni. Privatan meg nem kivanok veled levelezni ~ azt hiszem, hogy meg jogom van valogatosnak lenni.
@MarkHun1 Dehogy nem reagaltam ra. Jan. 25.-en irtam a kovetkezot neked: "@MarkTheRide ~ Nincs kedvem vitatkozni veled, de annyit meg mondok, hogy nincs igazad se Amerikarol, se Jobbikrol, akinek semmi, de semmi koze nincs Izraelhez, hanem inkabb Iranhoz! A logikad tul egyszeru, hogy ugy legyen minden, ahogyan leirtad. Sajnos nem ilyen szimplan mukodik a politika se egy orszag kormanya."
@MarkTheHun1 Az elso uzenetemben, azt irtam neked, hogy "@MarkTheRide ~ Remelem tartalmazni fog legalabb egy csepp bizonyitekot, mert engem oszinten, valoban nem erdekel ures vadlas, illetve ragalmazas. ;) " Sajnos, nem tartalmazott a tobbi uzeneted egyetlen egy csepp bizonyitekot, csak ragalmazoskat es vadlasokat. Azok pedig, mint irtam, nem erdekelnek engem. Abbol mar igy is eleg boven kapok mindenkitol. Nem kell megtobbet olvasnom toled.
@FinnoUgricLanguage Go back to sleep you fuckin' MORON! Who rattled your cage?!? What's the matter ~ did you prematurely ejaculate on your wet dream? Don't take it out on me.
Slavs lost parts of their lands in 10th Century, Hungarians lost parts of their lands after 2 defeats in world wars in 20th Century. That is how it goes.
All Hungary is going in the hell .Just look where orban is leading hungary and feeding you with nationalism...Hungary gonna be poorest country in Europe and out of EU soon if people in Hu dont change mind. Nostalgy is most worst thing ever.
@hmarian123 I couldn't agree wiuth you more. And it could only get worse if Hungarians regrettably allow JOBBIK to enter as the ruling party! Sorry to say that, instead of progressing forward, Hungary is regressing back to the mid-20th century, during the pre-War era. Too much of anything is not a good thing, and this is certainly true of nationalism. Nostalgia is the fuel to the fire.
@TX2673XA The video is in English, the comments here are in English. Please have the courtesy to maintain decorum by also writing in English. Thank you.
Racism played a big role when they partialed up Hungary. Lots of white European still looked on them as a Asian hoard. Today ‘s world is looking differently on Asians.
the hungarian kingdom formed in 1000 AD. In that period the demography was about 90% hungarian, by the mongol invasion in the 13.century it was about 60- 70 % and after the mongol invasion king Béla IV settle Vlach rumins, serbs, cumans -- in hungarian kunok and in parallel with this, more vlahc rumins( now romanians) came to transylvania spontaneously.(13.century!!)
In The 1910 Hungarian census: You had to state which language you use the most on daily basis! And that was your ethnicity. So for example 1 Italian 1 German 1 Romanian and one Ukrainian go to Budapest for work and use the Hungarian language all the day (work) and so Budapest got 4 more Hungarians in its town....
have in mind in 1800 Hungarians where 28% and in 1910 54%
@shottydd the hungarians at 1800 was abuot 47-49 % ethnic, not 28 %. where do you get that thing? maybe in romanian or slovak books ;)
and that 47 -48 % is made by mongol-ottoman invasion, + by habsburgs ( rákoczi independent war, or 1848-49 independent war ) and paraller whit this things the romanias( vlachs) and serbs, settle in hungary to replace the dead population ;)
Most Hungarians in Romania love their country they live. Rights and autonomy were enlarged. Romania is a model of coexistence, although they wanted a new Kosovo here .. Romania HAS a history and can not deny anyone. Politics in Romania and in Hungary is a mess. Let hatred and seek to live in harmony and cultural and ethnic diversity.
@laur282000 I appreciate your passion and love for your country, but you are blind, possibly even a Rumanian nationalist. All you know is what your government has spoon-fed you for years and years. You don't know the misery and fear that ethnic Hungarians in Rumania must endure. It is not enough that Rumania supposedly maintains the levels of tolerance set by the EU, it must abide by international laws decreed by the UN also.
@laur282000 Unfortunately, it is not. I strongly suggest that you review my responses to VictorIulian1918, especially my responses to cafta and fortzasteaua1234 below. You will undoubtedly find them enlightening and interesting! You may not agree with everything contained in them, but you will at least have had the opportunity to open your eyes.
History is a game for you. For those who think like you killed millions of people. Romania is a reality. Romanian and Hungary are European countries. Empires have died. .
@laur282000 The sad truth is that history is anything BUT a game for me and many like me. Many people have been historically killed on both sides, Hungarian and Rumanian. Much of the killing is the result of revenge, just as today's mistreatment and abuse of Hungarians in Rumania is the result of revenge, not justice. It is the result of the poor choices in the forms of government prevalent in Rumania, not least of all conducive to corruption in Rumanian government.
@laur282000 Rumania today is a sad reflection of its need to avenge itself on innocent ethnic minorities within its enlarged borders. It justifies itself based on false myths and legends and declares national pride in what was never its own history, but the history of ancient and sometimes glorious empires and nation-states. Rumania was not even a nation until the 19th century.
@laur282000 Until then, it was merely a loosely formed pastoral nomadic community that laid false claims to lands that it never owned, never possessed, and never fought for. Rumanian ancestors hid in terror from attacking marauders for as long as its history, including most significantly Ottoman Turks. Had it not been for the mercy of Hungarian rulers, Rumanians would have been made extinct by Muslim Turks!
@laur282000 The thanks for this is the usurpation of Hungarian territories, namely, Transylvania is that empires have indeed died. Not all changes are for the better. Not all changes can be claimed as progress though. That is certainly the case with the ultimate dismemberment of the Kingdom of Hungary, central Europe's greatest deterrent to national socialism, and finally to communism.
@laur282000 With the weakening of this great power, it opened the floodgates for Hitler's Nazi Germany (and Nazi Rumania, Nazi Hungary), and to Ceasescu's communist Rumania and to communist Hungary. So, how much did Trianon do to improve conditions in central and eastern Europe? This is much more than merely a history lesson. It is a lesson in human survival!
what I could never understand is why did Hungary sign the Treaty of Trianon? They did not have to sign, they could have stood up and fought for Hungary, they chose not to. So I must conclude that Hungarians were betrayed by their leaders. The Treaty of Trianon is ILLEGAL ... it amounts to nothing more than extortion!!!
@rollerbenz You are 110% CORRECT in all respects. As I have said before, quoting other sources, The so-called Treaty of Trianon is the most unethical, illegal treaties in the history of international law! In the very least, it ought to be revised; at best, it should be repealed and reparations paid to Hungarians (NOT the Hungarian government!), who were unjustly made to suffer the actions of their government and foreign governments alike.
@EuroAmerican02 You are correct. The treaty of Trianon wasn't just. The Romanians from the Timok valley remained outside Romania. According to the democratic principle of sovereign people , after the first world war, the major ethnic groups were given the right to have their own independent state, after centuries of abusive occupation, or remain under hungarian domination? Guess what they decided? It was as democratic as possible, something you nomadic people can't understand
@VictorIulian1918 While I would like to fully agree with you, I find that I can only bring myself to agree with your very first sentence. After that, I find myself wandering off to seek more truth in this matter. The single, most glaring error in your assessment of the era is that, contrary to your statement, the people of the dismembered regions had utterly NO VOICE in whether they desired to remain joined to Hungary, or wished to belong to some other nationality.
@VictorIulian1918 The only place where such a plebiscite was conducted, as I have mentioned here in numerous dialogues with others, was in Sopron, a town on the western fringe of Hungary, which elected oveerwhelmingly to remain in Hungary, rather than be dismembered and annexed by Austria. The same would have been undoubtedly true about Ruthenia and many parts of eastern and northern Hungary as well. That's the essence of why Trianon was unjust!
@VictorIulian1918 I would also like to point out to you, as it is plain to see that you are unfamiliar with the ancient Hungarians, known as Magyars, that they were emphatically NOT nomadic people, but remained stationary in their homelands, just east of the Ural Mountains and southward toward what is today known as Iran. They were a warrior people and capable of defending their homes, property, and people.
@VictorIulian1918 From this region, they migrated into Europe through today's Turkey in the 9th century, 500 years behind their antecedents, the Huns. Truth be known, the ancient Vlachs followed a similar path into Europe. Therefore, Vlachs, far from being indigneous to Romania, particularly to Transylvania, are wanderers too. They followed their sheep and goats to greener pastures and grazing lands. Try not to be insulting, and you may learn more!
@EuroAmerican02 I don't want to argue with you about the origins of the magyar people. It is clear to everybody except you, who keeps on inventing fairy tales, because you are ashamed of you nomadic nature (perfectly natural). On 1st of December 1918, at Alba Iulia, the overwhelming majority of the Romanian population chose to unite with the Kingdom of Romania, thus, the unification of Romanian land under one sovereign and independent state after 400 years. Just one example
@VictorIulian1918 I don't want to argue with you either. Rumania's people, for the most part, are hopelessly brainwashed, and it's simply no use to try to show you the facts and tell you the truth prior to Rumania's communist (Ceasescu's) regime's distortion of Rumanian history. To avoid argument, I a,m BLOCKING you; I don't want to hear your bullshit and lies!
@VictorIulian1918 I will tell you, because I like to have the last word, that it is not Hungarians who invented the Daco-Roman-Romanian Theory, but the Rumanians. Far from being ashamed of our long and successful history and heritage, we are proud of it. Unlike Rumania, we have a widely accepted history, a provable, substantial history. Hungary established its statehood in 896 A.D. when Rumanians had not even been inventged yet.
@VictorIulian1918 Instead, there wwere wandering sheepherders and goatfuckers known as Vlachs who had not claimed statehood anywhere in Europe. The unification of Rumania lasted less than 9 months in the 16th century, and, again, less than a quarter of a century after 1918! So, don't be so proud Rumanian. Finally, as you said, it was "the Romanian population" who chose to unite in 1918, certainly not your minorities, who were deadset against it!
@VictorIulian1918 You demonize Hungary for the same neglect that Rumania is guilty of: the forced assimilation and total domination of its minorities. By all rights, a new Trianon ought to be devised solely for the sake of Rumania by which Rumania should forfeit its ethnic majority territories, such as Szekely Land!
@rollerbenz dude, we fought!! Hard, but we had no chance, our army was disbanded(thank our idiot, blind leaders), 4 enemy armies were massed against us-romanian, serb, czechoslovak and french! Although we almost pulled it off, but betrayel again and again and again! its sad really!
@killer9kid As you already touched on it, an international conspiracy against the Kingdom of Hungary was led by the French and the Austrians, both of whom were afraid of the growing regional influence of Hungary. They wanted Hungary dismembered, that was the inevitable and unavoidable scheme. Moreover, this filthy alliance used Rumania like a puppet or a pawn.
@killer9kid The French bribed Rumania to turn against Austria by promising them the territory back to the Tisza River (in 1916), and, of course, the French could not single-handedly keep their promise after "the war to end all wars", as World War I came to be known, ended. Instead, Rumania ended up with "only" Transylvania.
How interesting is that, after Trianon, Austrians went toward Sopron. But there was few Hungarian people with fewer weapon, and suddenly Sopron's residents can elect: Austria or Hungary... Although at the time there lived more Austrian, Sopron is Hungarian to date! (Note: Sopron is now the Civitas Fidelissima (the most faithful city))...
@ironmarci5 Yes, unfortunately, the circumstances were similar in many regions of the kingdom; citizens did not necessarily want to be separated from Hungary merely based on their ethnicity. It has nothing to do with weapons capability, everything to do with lifestyle issues and loyalty. That is why plebiscites were disallowed under Trianon, and that's what makes Trianon not only unfair, but also renders it one of the most unjust treaties in international jurisprudence.
This is still very painful for everyone at home. Unfortunately, there are absolutely unable to amirkől Europe! For example, in Slovakia that the present can not speak Hungarian Hungary is not in the Hungarian national anthem played and the flags can not be subjected to either! And in spite of everything, we are the Nazi-fascist people! It's like Israel VS. Only in Palestine of the Palestinian people, unfortunately, the Hungarians :(((((
@Robihun4 Remelem nem veszed rosszneven, hogyha azt mondom, hogy talan jobb lenne, ha magyarul irnad le, amit mondani akartal, mert egyaltalan nem eertheto angolul. Nem tudom, hogy a forditod hibaja, vagy esetleg nem tudsz angolul, de segitsegre van szukseged, az teny. Ismetelem, hogy ezt nem rosszneven vagy rossz indokbol irom neked. Ha tudok valamiben segiteni, csak szoljal nekem. ;)
Ez még mindíg fáj itthon mindenkinek. Sajnos a világ nem tudja hogy mi folyik itt europában! páldául hogy "szlovákiában" azaz a totoknál nem beszélhetsz magyarul nem használhatod nemzeti szineidet és nem lehet lejátszani a himnuszt ! És mind ennek ellenére mivagyunk a fasiszta-nácik !Ez olyan mint izrael és palesztína háborúja csak sajnos a Magyar nép most a palesztin !
This is something that is still painful for everyone at home. Unfortunately, the world does not know what's going on in Europe. For example, it is forbidden to speak Hungarian in Slovakia, or to display the Hungarian flag, and you can't play the Hungarian National Anthem there either. Moreover, in spite of these, we are the fascist Nazis! This is like the war between Israel and Palestine, but, unfortunately, the Hungarian people are now Palestine!
@Robihun4 Ugy latom, megsem volt tul fontos a mondanivalod, mert nem igyekeztel leirni magyarul, hogy kisegitselek az angolnyelv kifejeszeseddel. Na, jol van, akkor legyen igy. Szia!
@orbansky Yes, I can see that from your perspective Trianon was very much in your favor. After all, it served to create a nation-state for your disorganized, uncivilized people, named Czechoslovakia. But, then, of course, not only could you not get along with your Hungarian neighbors, you also couldn't get along with your Czech brothers!
@orbansky So, you separated from them in 1992, and, ion 1993, formed your own Slovak Republic. Only it is not in reality a republic, is it, but a Slovakian chauvinist dictatorship, with such nationalist-extremists in public office like Fico and Slobota.
Yes, we weep for the injustice of Trianon, and we weep for your theft of our northern highlands!
@orbansky We weep for the more than 1/2 MILLION ethnic Hungarians against whom you have passed all manner of discriminatory laws, beginning in 1945 with the Benes decrees, and continuing through the 20th and 21st centuries with the Slovak Language Law, an unheard of act anywhere else in Europe or in the EU!!! Go back to Asia, you say?!? Indeed, we may, right after we send SLOVAKIA BACK TO HELL!
@orbansky Serbian, Slovenian, Ukrainian, Czechian, Croatian, Romanian people are the only one who can understand that Hungary is Hungary and HUNGARY isn't Serbia, Slovenia, Ukrainia, Czech rep, Croatia, Romania....and yes TRANON IS justice....
@fortzasteaua1234 Many, if not most, countries of the world do not base their geographies on their ethnic demographics. Just because there were a substantial number of ethnic minorities within the Kingdom of Hungary does not justify their TAKING Hungarian territory and making it their respective countries.
@fortzasteaua1234 The TREATY OF TRIANON WAS THE MOST UNJUST AND MOST ILLEGAL DOCUMENT IN THE HISTORY OF INTERNATIONAL LAW!!! That is the observation, AFTER the fact, of those who signed the document not merely my own observation.
@EuroAmerican02 nowadays we Romanians of Transilvania have nothing against Hungarians ..my godfather is Hungarian and we get along perfect ...i`ll give u this ...i have nazzi visions but only towards gypsies!and a proof that Romanians are not that chauvinists is that we never vote for Vadim..who is like the most anti Hungarians person in the Romanian political system!at the same time Hungarians vote for Marko who is an extremist !
@cafta But, a comparison of the ideologies of Béla Markó, a Romanian politician and writer of Hungarian ethnicity, and Corneliu Vadim Tudor, leader of the Greater Romania Party ('Partidul România Mare'), writer, journalist and a Member of the European Parliament, a controversial, essentially populist, political figure, and known for his strongly nationalist and patriotic views ... (continued)
@cafta the theatrics of which often accompany his rhetoric, and his reliance on the denunications of political opponents (so far, a tactic which several civil lawsuits have ruled slanderous), hardly seems fair to me. In 1991, Tudor and Eugen Barbu founded the Greater Romania Party, the platform of which Time magazine described as "a crude mixture of anti-Semitism, racism and nostalgia for the good old days of communism."
@cafta Statements made and articles written by Tudor and his party colleagues can also be described as ultra-nationalist, anti-Hungarian sentiment, anti-Roma, and homophobic. Of no less importance is Tudor's irredentism: the ideal of a Greater Romania is what gives the party its name. On the other hand, Béla Markó is the former leader of the Democratic Union of Hungarians in Romania (UDMR), he was also the Deputy Premier in the Emil Boc government (which came to power December 23, 2009);
@cafta he had also been Minister of State in the Tăriceanu cabinet between 2004 and 2007, in charge of culture, education and research and European integration.
Markó has been a senator since 1990, and was the leader of the UDMR from 1993 to 2011. He competed in the 2004 Romanian presidential election, and ranked fourth with 5.1% of the votes.
@cafta The Democratic Union of Hungarians in Romania, or in Romanian: Uniunea Democrată Maghiară din România, UDMR (inHungarian: Romániai Magyar Demokrata Szövetség, RMDSz) is the main political organisation representing the ethnic Hungarians of Romania. From 1996-2008 Romanian legislative elections, UDMR was a member or supporter of EVERY government. After the 2008 elections, UDMR entered opposition, but at the end of 2009 it became once again a member of the government coalition.
@cafta UDMR aims to represent the Magyar (ethnic Hungarian) community of Romania, which is one of the largest national minorities in Europe (1,431,807 citizens, according to the 2002 census). And finally, as an ethnic minority party representing Romanian Magyars the UDMR, above all, concerns itself with Hungarian minority rights, including cultural and territorial autonomy on an ethnic basis. "Hungarians vote for Marko who is an extremist!" ~ ??? Some extremist...ha!ha!ha!
@cafta Shall we discuss the platforms of each of these two public figures? And, btw, who is it that is regularly sued for slander (telling lies in public), Marko or Vadim? I'll let you weigh the facts again, and be the judge.
@EuroAmerican02 to support my claim i will quote to you a statement made by Vadim in a televised political debate witch is made before each president election at the national television! Vadim: Mister Marko , you say we(PRM) are extremists ..we have 20.000 Hungarians in our party and 5000 jews...how many Romanians do you have in your party! of course he refused to respond :)
@cafta Why should he respond to such deceitful statements. 5,000 Jews? According to the World Jewish Congress, there were 428,312 Jews in Romania in 1947. Mass emigration ensued, much of it to the British Mandate of Palestine and later Israel, and much of it technically illegal. By 1956, there were 144,236 Jews in Romania. From 1948 until 1960, more than 200,000 Romanian Jews went to Israel, reducing the population in Romania to less than 100,000 by the 1960s. ... (continued)
@cafta (continued) The situation for the Jews of Romania later improved, but the community has shrunk - TODAY only 9,000-15,000 Jews live in Romania. So, Vadim wants to convince us that fully one-third to one-half of ALL Romanian Jews support his anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish political party? You know what my response is? Bullshit and MORE lies!
@cafta 20,000 Hungarians are members of the same anti-Hungarian Romanian political party? I would have to see some very real proof before I believed more his bullshit and lies. Marko was being a gentleman NOT to respond to this FRAUD Vadim.
You managed to substantiate allegations that "several civil lawsuits have ruled slanderous" against Vadim. He is a showman with dangerous and communist ideologies who believes it is okay to slander opponents and lie to Romanians!
@EuroAmerican02 Vadim`s biggest succes in politics was reaching the final a few years ago ...then Romanians where afraid that he would win and vote in big masses with the other candidate witch was a communist :)..we call him Vaccin because of his mental illness obviously !
@cafta Why can't Romanians see that they are the victims of the government's lies and deceit about everything, including their corrupt government and "modified" history? I don't know how old you are, but I have talked to some Romanians on YouTube (not many), who remember their REAL history and what it was like in your country BEFORE the communists, before Ceasescu. Only Romanian irredentists and nationalist-extremists deny the facts of Romanian history and the true origin of Romanians.
@EuroAmerican02 if you talk about the Roessler theory its just a theory ...we didn`t migrate from Thessaly that is for sure and we are the most numerous people in the area ...we have great culture but no old writing,we where not a great civillisation that`s why we have such a rich culture!we have common ancestors with Albanians but not the way your history books present it ...some of you say Slovaks,Serbs,Romanians,Ukrainians have false history and that`s a little ignorant!
@cafta While I acknowledge the existence of the Roessler theory, why can't you as a Romanian acknowledge the FOUR THEORIES about the origin of the Romanians? Four theories explain the fact that a language of Latin origin (the Romanian language) is spoken in modern Romania:
@cafta The ‘theory of Daco-Romanian continuity’ holds that the Romanians are a synthesis of two ethnic elements, namely the Roman conquerors of ancient Dacia and the autochthonous Dacians. Although, the venue of this ethnogenesis was situated on both sides of the Danube, after the onrush of the Slavs, the center of Danubian Romanity was concentrated in today's Romania.
@cafta The ‘immigrationist theory’ or the ‘theory of moving continuity’ (in Romanian scholarship, ‘Roesler’s theory’) suggests that the Romanian language can be traced back to the idiom spoken by the inhabitants of the intensively Romanized provinces of the Roman Empire to the south of the river Danube. After the collapse of the Roman limes on the Danube, they sought refuge in the mountainous regions of the Balkan Peninsula where their language was preserved.
@cafta An interim theory, the ‘admigration theory’, argues that two centers of the latinophones crystallized in Southeastern Europe: one in Dacia Traiana and the other in the central regions of the Balkan Peninsula. But a close relationship existed between the two centers, and parts of the southern population joined (‘admigrated’ to) the northern latinophones. (continued)
@cafta (continued) The Romanians thus appear at one and the same time as indigenous (in Dacia Traiana), immigrants (from the south of the Danube), and conquerors (in the principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia).
@cafta The ‘theory of the core regions of the Romanian language’ implies that the territory where the formation of the Romanians occurred cannot be determined exactly. Instead, a vast homeland is supposed: a large block of latinophones existed in modern Romania, while in other territories solely language islands survived the storms of the Migration Period.
@cafta So, my dear adversary, you c an possibly see here for yourself that there is room for many theories. Not one of them can be proven without the shadow of doubt! None of them is any more factual than any other one, because there is evidence to support any theory or a combination of theories. I don't know your interpretation of a 'rich' culture, but, suffice to say that all European nations, in my humble opinion, have a 'rich' culture indeed.
@cafta There is indeed an element of exaggeration and other falsehoods in the histories of the countries you mentioned, perhaps even to some extent in Hungarian history. The recording of history depends on many factors, as you are probably aware. Not the least of the influences include politics, war, and disasters.
@cafta Unfortunately, your university is also the catalyst for today's Hungarian irredentism, because Babes-Boyai forbade the use of multilingual curricula and posting signs containing grades in the Hungarian (and German) language.
@cafta Permit me to enlighten you, as follows: The Babeș-Bolyai University (UBB—Universitatea Babeș-Bolyai, Hungarian: Babeș-Bolyai Tudományegyetem) in Cluj-Napoca is a university in Romania. With almost 50,000 students, the university OFFERS 105 SPECIALIZATIONS; 105 are available in Romanian, and also 67 of them in Hungarian, 17 in German and 5 in English.
All of words are true!
TheJustice2995 9 hours ago
LIAR!!!!!
wilgax100 3 days ago
@wilgax100 You're a nasty person, you know that? I looked at your channel and profile, and you just aren't nice to anybody. Because I want only sensible, rational, and intelligent people to respond to my videos, I am BLOCKing you. It's not because I hate Romanians, but because I don't like nasty people like YOU!!!!!
EuroAmerican02 3 days ago
...Slovenian town (just after the WWII).. Some parts of Istria are totally Slovenian.but I only feel that NOW the right for some kind of teritorial autonomy has a community in Italy... So I am not sure when historical claim is important.It is important..but not as much as the present state of affairs and most of all the conduct of those affairs (they must be very smart because every sign of moral non-integrity by any member of the community will be in unfriendly enviroment used against them x100
westindia100 1 week ago
3. ... they refused nothing less then separation.. even when they were offered AUTONOMY. They responded with shells and bullets.
So to make a long story short.... Sometimes it is the process that is important.
If we look of another example... Slovenians have large communities living in AUSTRIA, ITALY and CROATIA (Istria) and they have a historical right to separation or autonomy in all 3 countries. (Slovenian dukes were crowned in lands now owning Austria, TRST (Trieste) was a largest...
westindia100 1 week ago
As far as the autonomy goes...Lets look at the recent event.. Lets say that i am sympatetic towards croatians.. But in 1991 the Serbs in Croatia had in my opinion historically and nominal "LEGITIMITE" rights for autonomy or even separation.(you must look a litlle bit a history of Austria and A-H..). On the other hand the croatian had an equal right on those lands.. But the SERBS blew it. 1.They went into war (not just armed rebellion) 2. They condected war without any moral obligation and..
westindia100 1 week ago
@westindia100 Like everyone else who lost anything (or, in mopst cases, everything), they are recompensed with reparations. One reason that Slovakia and the Czech Republic will not revoke or rescind the Benes decrees is that they are afraid, then, that they will have to pay billions of dollars in reparations to the Hungarians and
Germans from whom they stole everything. And, meanwhile, Romania refuses to grant autonomy to Hungarian Szekelys for the same reason.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
I am not against foreign investment... I just think that Hungary sold out in an far larger extend that they should. I do not think that this is healty for a country
westindia100 1 week ago
@westindia100 It is healthy unless the revenue is mismanaged by corrupt politicians, as it was (and is) by Hungarian leaders. Sadly, the revenue, instead of going back into the economy, lined the pockets of crooked politicians destroying the economy of the country. This led to increased indebtedness by the country, one which is currently, slowly being repaid (to IMF) at the great expense of the individual taxpayer.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@EuroAmerican02 wake up!what bank in the history of the world banking gave money for no interest or personal growth?in romania the president of the national bank says that romania have no nedd for loans.after his remark a team from IMF came in romania and says : "you need a new loan and attention you need to tight the belt more." in fact romania is the country with the smalles absortion of the UE founds (!?) they want to save the greece economy by making 20% unemployment of the population (!?)
poatenamchef 3 days ago
And what does it matter to have a Homeland of all people of one nationality if everything else (banks, companies, resourses ) are owned by somebody foreign anyway?
westindia100 1 week ago
@westindia100 In my opinion, it is far better to have non-resident investments in your country than to have foreigners living right next door to you. Which do you prefer?
To answer your other idea, autonomy could resolve many of the differences that exist, but there is so much more than that involved, that even territorial autonomy could not be fully satisfactory to all parties.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
But how to divide an area where there are enclaves within the enclaves? Is there a solution that can satisfy all... without sacrifieces... I do not think so... In my opinion the idea of national state needs to be redifined... in something that could not related directly to the territory that one state ocupies. If one autonomous entity acts unformally as a unity the state borders are not the problems. The problems in Europe lies that the states are willingly try to force unity..
westindia100 1 week ago
@westindia100 In my humble opinion, any territory that could be subdivided in "good conscience" 91 years ago can be reapportioned in "better conscience" nearly a century later. Trianon must be reviewed and revised by an international court, who presided over the dismemberment of Hungary in 1920. If they rule that the Vienna Accord still prevails, then Hungary would be re-awarded southern Slovakia, northern Transylvania, & Voivodina.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
Well you see.... Hungary was two times on the wrong side of the world war. Croatia was only once_ then it was "punished" by victors with territory . Istra and parts of Dalmatia went to Italy..(after WWI) So this the way it goes... But I understand your point of view... A lot of Croatians are FORCED to live now with muslims in BOSNIA in one state. But i do not see solution within the FORMAL ways of STATES.(war?) Maybe only through mutual consent the states should exchange territories...
westindia100 1 week ago
@westindia100 First, thank you for your courteous and thoughtful reply. Next, please remember that, at the outbreak of WWI, a dual monarchy existed between Hungary and Austria, the Austro-Hungarian Empire. So, Hungary was more or less compelled to enter WWI with Austria, even though Hungary had wanted and intended to remain a neutral country. I'd also like to point out that, despite fighting on the losing side, it was Hungarian common people, not the government, who suffered.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@westindia100 This set a precedent, as it had always been governments who were punished, not the population. It was a dangerous precedent that later, after WWII, led to Czechoslovakia's Edvard Benes series of decrees predicated upon the notion that ALL Hungarians & Germans were "war criminals". Tell me how a grandfather or an old mother can be considered a war criminal.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@westindia100 In effect, this decree allowed the government to unlawfully usurp the real and personal property of Hungarians and Germans, who, thus, forfeited their Czechoslovakian citizenship. Where's the justice? Anyway, the Benes decrees remain in effect to this date! In fact, they were reaffirmed by Slovakia only last year! That's one obstacle to peace between Hungary and Slovakia and the Czech Republic.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@westindia100 Croatia's situation is far worse, since you have to live side-by-side with Muslims...descended from Hitler's Muslims, by way of the Muslim Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who came to Europe to form an antisemitic bond with Hitler. Such border disputes as to which both Hungary and Croatia have fallen victim can be peacefully resolved only under an international court of competent jurisdiction.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@westindia100 If one party refuses to submit to the judgment of the court, there could be serious consequences.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
This is funny. A poor Hungary who sold most of their everything that moves and stands... wants to anex parts of poorer countries like serbia and romania.... As far the nationality figures some of the towns in serbia could be croatian as well. but they are not! Every nation in this part of europe has similar maps and if you read some books you would know that 1910 census of population was influnced heavily by the rulling nations Austrians and Hungarians. I am not saying that is completly false.
westindia100 1 week ago
@westindia100 If you understood the Hungarian people and government, you would not find us or the situation funny at all. Let me explain. Neither mainstream Hungarian society nor the Hungarian is well represented here on YouTube. Those who are here, for the most part, are considered right-wing extremists who refer to themselves as "radical nationalists," but who are, in fact, fascists and neo-Nazis.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@westindia100 THEY are the only ones with dreams of the former unity of the Kingdom of Hungary (pre-1920), NOT the people or the ruling political party in Hungary today. Unfortunately, and sad to tell, those who yell the loudest on YouTube are NOT representative of the majority of the voting public in Hungary, and, because the extremists have little or no voice in reality, they resort to this website to express their outdated and often detrimental ideals and goals.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@westindia100 I should also add that the unfortunate situation created by an unjust peace treaty in 1920 causes problems not only for Hungarians, but also for Hungary's neighboring countries, who want nothing more than to be free of ethnic minority Hungarians in their respective countries.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@westindia100 This unpleasant and disastrous condition was brought about by the unfair, deceitful and completely inaccurate ethnic demographics of pre-1920, wherein Tthe Trianon treaty did NOT subdivide Hungary based on demographics, contrary to popular belief, but went beyond ethnic boundaries to award other countries, like Czechoslovakia and Romania, territories they were not entitled to.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@westindia100 That is why today Slovakia has an almost 10% ethnic Hungarian minority (600,000 Hungarians), and that is also why Transylvania has more than 1.3 million remaining ethnic Hungarians. In reality, northern Transylvania should never have been annexed to Romania, and northern Hungary (Felvidek) should never have been annexed to Czechoslovakia.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
@westindia100 Therein lie the problems being experienced internationally in Europe. Trianon has served to punish everybody, instead of only the Hungarian people as it was intended to do.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
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@NuMaiVremPamant Aceasta este o idee plină de umor, dar mai multa putere pentru a cauza ta şi idealurile. Vă doresc nimic mai puţin succes în eforturile dumneavoastră de a scăpa România de corupţie sale guvernamentale.
EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
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NuMaiVremPamant 1 week ago
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EuroAmerican02 1 week ago
Hungarian nomads from Asia occupy Slavic territory. Vyšehrad, Novohrad, Blatnohrad, Blaténske jazero, Stoličný Belehrad(now Székesfehérvár), Ostrihom(now Esztergom), Päťkostolie(now Pécs), Miškovec(now Miskolc), Matra, Pilíš... Mongols, it is time to return home, return to ASIA!
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1001 Preslavva Civitas
1808 Pozsony
PerunDemon 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon Your first statement is FALSE. Let's talk about each one of your claims. First, the name Visegrád (Vyšehrad) is of Slavic origin meaning "the upper castle" or "the upper settlement/town/fortification". In modern Slovak and Czech the spelling is Vyšehrad. Visegrád was first mentioned in 1009 as a county town and the chief town of an archdeaconry. After the destructive Mongol invasion of Europe in 1242, the town was rebuilt in a slightly different location to the south.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon King Charles I of Hungary made Visegrád his hometown, the royal seat of Hungary in 1325. Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor and King of Hungary, moved the royal seat to Buda between 1405-1408. King Matthias Corvinus of Hungary used Visegrád as a country residence. Visegrád lost importance after the partition of the Kingdom of Hungary following the Battle of Mohács in 1526.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon Visegrád was granted town privileges in 2000. "Slavic" territory? It has NOT been Slavic territory since 1242, possibly even as early as 1009, since it was merely a township then; it was only declared a town in 2000! Next ...
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon Nógrád (Hungarian; Latin: comitatus Neogradiensis, German: Neuburg or Neograd, Slovak: Novohrad) was the name of a historic administrative county (comitatus) of the Kingdom of Hungary. Its territory is presently in southern Slovakia and in northern present-day Hungary. The name Novohrad is still used in Slovakia as an informal designation of the corresponding territory. The name stems from the former Nógrád (Novohrad) castle in present-day Hungary. "Slavic" territory?
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@EuroAmerican02 Not even the very blades of grass on which was built the Hungarian town of Nograd! Next ...
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon One more thing about Nograd: Nógrád was one of the first counties of the Kingdom of Hungary, founded in the 11th century. It was ruled by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1595, and from 1605 to 1686, as part of Budin Province and Egri Province. Again, I ask, "Slavic" territory? Don't make me laugh! Next ...
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon In Hungarian, it is known as Zalavár, in Slovak as Blatnohrad, in Croatian: Blatnograd, in Serbian: Блатноград, and in German as Moosburg. It was also known as Mosapurc and Kolon. Ján Kollár called it Salavár in his travel book and described the state of the ruins in 1841. Zalavár is a village in Hungary, located in Zala county about 9 km (6 mi) southwest of Lake Balaton.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon In the 9th century, the city of Blatnograd/Blatnohrad, a fortified city built at the Zala River, was a capital of the Slavic Balaton Principality ruled by prince Pribina. Great Moravia was a Slavic state that existed in Central Europe and lasted for nearly seventy years in the 9th century, whose creators were the ancestors of the Czechs and Slovaks. It was a vassal state of the Germanic Frankish kingdom and paid an annual tribute to it.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon There is some controversy as to the actual location of its core territory. According to the greater weight of scholars, its core area lay on both sides of the Morava river, the territory of today's western Slovakia and in Moravia and Bohemia (today's Czech Republic), but the entity MAY have also extended [when?] into what are today parts of Hungary, Poland, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Romania, Ukraine and Germany.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon So, do you want to send home the Poles, Austrians, Slovenes, Croats, Serbs, Romanians, Ukrainians, and Germans too? "Slavic" territory? I seriously doubt it. It seemed it was anything BUT Slavic. There is no continuity in politics of this early Slavic polity and the modern Slovak nation. NEXT...
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon Below is a list of Slovak language exonyms for towns and villages in non-Slovak-speaking areas of the World: Balaton ~ Blatenské jazero, Blatno (hist.) Bolotin. Balaton may refer to: Balaton, a village in Heves county, Northern Hungary, far from Lake Balaton.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon Slavic territory? The Slavic people of that time were weakly differentiated, speaking closely related dialects of the same common language. The inhabitants of the Lower Pannonia Principality were most probably closely related to each of neighboring Slavic people: Great Moravians (Western Slavs) to the north, Karantanians and Pannonians Slavs to the west and the south, and Serbs to the south-east, providing the bridge between those Slavic states and tribal unions.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon NEXT... Székesfehérvár is a city in central Hungary and is the 9th largest in the country. Located around 65 km (40 mi) southwest of Budapest, it is inhabited by 101,973 people (2010), with 136,995 in the Székesfehérvár Subregion. The city is the centre of Fejér county and the regional centre of Central Transdanubia. In the Middle Ages the city was a royal residence and was one of the most important cities of Hungary.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon 37 kings and 39 queen consorts were crowned, 15 rulers have been buried here, the diets were held and the crown jewels were kept here. The place has been inhabited since the 5th century BC. In Roman times the settlements were called Gorsium and Herculia. In about the 5th century AD, Slavic tribes began moving into the region and this place was called Belehrad or Belegrad, being a center during the Great Moravian period.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon This "place" did not become a town until after the Magyawrs (ancient Hungarians) arrived some 500 years later. Slavic territory? Hardly. It was fields on the open plains and hills. NEXT...Esztergom is a city in northern Hungary, 46 km north-west of the capital Budapest. It lies in Komárom-Esztergom county, on the right bank of the river Danube, which forms the border with Slovakia there.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon Esztergom was the capital of Hungary from the 10th till the mid-13th century when King Béla IV of Hungary moved the royal seat to Buda. Esztergom is the seat of the prímás (see Primate) of the Roman Catholic Church in Hungary. It's also the official seat of the Constitutional Court of Hungary. The city has the Keresztény Múzeum, the largest ecclesiastical collection in Hungary. Its cathedral, Esztergom Basilica is the largest church in Hungary.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon And YOU want to send such a people to a place where they have never been?!? Who the FUCK are YOU?!? Esztergom is one of the oldest towns in Hungary. Esztergom, as it existed in the Middle Ages, now rests under today's town. The results of the most recent archeological excavations reveal that the Várhegy (Castle Hill) and its vicinity have been inhabited since the end of the Ice Age 20,000 years ago.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon The first people known by name were the Celts from Western Europe, who settled in the region in about 350 BC. Slavic territory? Not quite. Should we give it back to the dead Celts? In 960, the ruling prince of the Hungarians, Géza, chose Esztergom as his residence. His son, Vajk, who was later called Saint Stephen of Hungary, was born in his palace built on the Roman castrum on the Várhegy (Castle Hill) around 969-975. OUR FIRST KING WAS BORN ON EUROPEAN SOIL!!!
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@EuroAmerican02
Where are Celts, Romans, Cotini? Slavic people are alive you ignorant. Hungarians didn´t bulid these places, only occupy the Slavic soil. Hungarians are riders on ponies from Asia and your anomalous language is evidence.
country what is now Hungary = Slavic land
Tinutul Secuiesc(or Székely land) in Transylvania = Romanian land
PerunDemon 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon You're a fucking MORON! I want you off my video comments,. because you make utterly no sense at all, and I cannot afford to waste my time on imbeciles like you. So, go occupy somebody else's time and space, not mine. I gave you facts, and you hand me a bunch of SLOTAK CRAP! ~ BLOCKED ~ You want Hungarians out of Slovakia? Make us go ~ all 600,000 of us!
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon NEXT... Pécs is the fifth largest city of Hungary, located on the slopes of the Mecsek mountains in the southwest of the country, close to its border with Croatia. It is the administrative and economical centre of Baranya county. Pécs is also the seat of Roman Catholic Diocese of Pécs. Slavic territory? Very doubtful! The city Sopianae was founded by Romans at the beginning of the 2nd century, on an area peopled by Celts and Pannoni tribes.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@EuroAmerican02 Shall we give back this "Slavic territory" to the Italians, the heirs of the ancient Romans? Its episcopate was founded in 1009 by Steven I, and the first university in Hungary was founded in Pécs in 1367 by Louis I the Great. (The largest university still resides in Pécs with about 34,000 students). What did the Slavs build there? I can't seem to remember a single accomplishment of theirs in this region.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon Pécs always was a multicultural city where many cultural layers are encrusted melting different values of the history of two thousand years. Hungarians, Croatians and Swabians still live in peace together in economic and cultural polarity. In 2010 Pécs was selected to be the European Capital of Culture. The area has been inhabited since ancient times, with the oldest archaeological findings being 6000 years old. Before the Roman era the place was inhabited by Celts.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon Slavic territory? Decidedly NOT! NEXT... Miskolc (Slovak: Miškovec) is a city in northeastern Hungary, mainly with heavy industrial background. With a population close to 170,000 (2010) Miskolc is the fourth largest city of Hungary (behind Budapest, Debrecen and Szeged; second-largest with agglomeration.) It is also the county capital of Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén and the regional centre of Northern Hungary.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon The area has been inhabited since ancient times – archaeological findings date back to the Paleolithic, proving human presence for over 70,000 years. Its first known dwellers were the Cotini, one of the Celt tribes. The area has been occupied by Hungarians since the "Conquest" in the late 9th century. It was named after the Miskóc clan and was first mentioned by this name around 1210 AD.
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@PerunDemon Slavic territory? In whose wildest dreams? YOURS? A similar ancient history exists for each of the glorious Hungarian regions that you alluded to. Before you send us back to someplace that we did not originate from, first perhaps you ought to learn more about your own history and geography. Then, you can return to wherever it is that Moravians originated from! Moreover, for your edification, we are no more Mongolians than you are Swedish!!!
EuroAmerican02 2 weeks ago
@MarkHun1 Ugy latszik most, hogy ez meg nem volt eleg neked. Sajnalom. Se a csatornamon, se itt, nem a helye az olyesmi temaknak, mint amit te akarsz velem targyalni. Privatan meg nem kivanok veled levelezni ~ azt hiszem, hogy meg jogom van valogatosnak lenni.
EuroAmerican02 3 weeks ago
@MarkHun1 Dehogy nem reagaltam ra. Jan. 25.-en irtam a kovetkezot neked: "@MarkTheRide ~ Nincs kedvem vitatkozni veled, de annyit meg mondok, hogy nincs igazad se Amerikarol, se Jobbikrol, akinek semmi, de semmi koze nincs Izraelhez, hanem inkabb Iranhoz! A logikad tul egyszeru, hogy ugy legyen minden, ahogyan leirtad. Sajnos nem ilyen szimplan mukodik a politika se egy orszag kormanya."
EuroAmerican02 3 weeks ago
@MarkTheHun1 Az elso uzenetemben, azt irtam neked, hogy "@MarkTheRide ~ Remelem tartalmazni fog legalabb egy csepp bizonyitekot, mert engem oszinten, valoban nem erdekel ures vadlas, illetve ragalmazas. ;) " Sajnos, nem tartalmazott a tobbi uzeneted egyetlen egy csepp bizonyitekot, csak ragalmazoskat es vadlasokat. Azok pedig, mint irtam, nem erdekelnek engem. Abbol mar igy is eleg boven kapok mindenkitol. Nem kell megtobbet olvasnom toled.
EuroAmerican02 3 weeks ago
No, you fucking idiot.
You and the clip are the same fucking garbage.
FinnoUgricLanguage 3 weeks ago
@FinnoUgricLanguage Go back to sleep you fuckin' MORON! Who rattled your cage?!? What's the matter ~ did you prematurely ejaculate on your wet dream? Don't take it out on me.
EuroAmerican02 3 weeks ago
Slavs lost parts of their lands in 10th Century, Hungarians lost parts of their lands after 2 defeats in world wars in 20th Century. That is how it goes.
arch82rb 4 weeks ago
I fall asleep after 30 sec of the clip.
FinnoUgricLanguage 4 weeks ago
@FinnoUgricLanguage Yes, I understand. Children have a tendency to have short attention spans when not viewing or playing video games.
EuroAmerican02 4 weeks ago
Hi!I am from Hungary.I say just: F.CK EU!F.CK ORBAN!F.UCK TRIANON!
dunduska23 1 month ago
@dunduska23 Ez is valami. Koszonom a hozzaszolasodat.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@dunduska23 IGAZAD VAN
sebestyenification 1 month ago
@sebestyenification Hat, igen. Hogy is lehetne ilyen megjegyzessel vitatkozni?
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
All Hungary is going in the hell .Just look where orban is leading hungary and feeding you with nationalism...Hungary gonna be poorest country in Europe and out of EU soon if people in Hu dont change mind. Nostalgy is most worst thing ever.
hmarian123 1 month ago
@hmarian123 I couldn't agree wiuth you more. And it could only get worse if Hungarians regrettably allow JOBBIK to enter as the ruling party! Sorry to say that, instead of progressing forward, Hungary is regressing back to the mid-20th century, during the pre-War era. Too much of anything is not a good thing, and this is certainly true of nationalism. Nostalgia is the fuel to the fire.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
ROMANIA VA RAMANE ROMANIA. DACA UNGURI VOR ALTCEVA SA AIBE LA EI IN TARA NU LA NOI, SI DACA FAC SCANDAL MA ROG SA IASA RAZBOI SA VA TAIEM PE TOTI
TX2673XA 1 month ago
@TX2673XA The video is in English, the comments here are in English. Please have the courtesy to maintain decorum by also writing in English. Thank you.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
Racism played a big role when they partialed up Hungary. Lots of white European still looked on them as a Asian hoard. Today ‘s world is looking differently on Asians.
betyarharamia 1 month ago
the hungarian kingdom formed in 1000 AD. In that period the demography was about 90% hungarian, by the mongol invasion in the 13.century it was about 60- 70 % and after the mongol invasion king Béla IV settle Vlach rumins, serbs, cumans -- in hungarian kunok and in parallel with this, more vlahc rumins( now romanians) came to transylvania spontaneously.(13.century!!)
Hungarus1 1 month ago
In The 1910 Hungarian census: You had to state which language you use the most on daily basis! And that was your ethnicity. So for example 1 Italian 1 German 1 Romanian and one Ukrainian go to Budapest for work and use the Hungarian language all the day (work) and so Budapest got 4 more Hungarians in its town....
have in mind in 1800 Hungarians where 28% and in 1910 54%
shottydd 1 month ago
@shottydd And your point is?
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@shottydd the hungarians at 1800 was abuot 47-49 % ethnic, not 28 %. where do you get that thing? maybe in romanian or slovak books ;)
and that 47 -48 % is made by mongol-ottoman invasion, + by habsburgs ( rákoczi independent war, or 1848-49 independent war ) and paraller whit this things the romanias( vlachs) and serbs, settle in hungary to replace the dead population ;)
Hungarus1 1 month ago
Ria Ria Hungária
MeszikeChannel 1 month ago
Most Hungarians in Romania love their country they live. Rights and autonomy were enlarged. Romania is a model of coexistence, although they wanted a new Kosovo here .. Romania HAS a history and can not deny anyone. Politics in Romania and in Hungary is a mess. Let hatred and seek to live in harmony and cultural and ethnic diversity.
laur282000 1 month ago
@laur282000 I appreciate your passion and love for your country, but you are blind, possibly even a Rumanian nationalist. All you know is what your government has spoon-fed you for years and years. You don't know the misery and fear that ethnic Hungarians in Rumania must endure. It is not enough that Rumania supposedly maintains the levels of tolerance set by the EU, it must abide by international laws decreed by the UN also.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@laur282000 Unfortunately, it is not. I strongly suggest that you review my responses to VictorIulian1918, especially my responses to cafta and fortzasteaua1234 below. You will undoubtedly find them enlightening and interesting! You may not agree with everything contained in them, but you will at least have had the opportunity to open your eyes.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@laur282000 They love the land they live, not the country.
VT22Video 1 month ago
History is a game for you. For those who think like you killed millions of people. Romania is a reality. Romanian and Hungary are European countries. Empires have died. .
laur282000 1 month ago
@laur282000 The sad truth is that history is anything BUT a game for me and many like me. Many people have been historically killed on both sides, Hungarian and Rumanian. Much of the killing is the result of revenge, just as today's mistreatment and abuse of Hungarians in Rumania is the result of revenge, not justice. It is the result of the poor choices in the forms of government prevalent in Rumania, not least of all conducive to corruption in Rumanian government.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@laur282000 Rumania today is a sad reflection of its need to avenge itself on innocent ethnic minorities within its enlarged borders. It justifies itself based on false myths and legends and declares national pride in what was never its own history, but the history of ancient and sometimes glorious empires and nation-states. Rumania was not even a nation until the 19th century.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@laur282000 Until then, it was merely a loosely formed pastoral nomadic community that laid false claims to lands that it never owned, never possessed, and never fought for. Rumanian ancestors hid in terror from attacking marauders for as long as its history, including most significantly Ottoman Turks. Had it not been for the mercy of Hungarian rulers, Rumanians would have been made extinct by Muslim Turks!
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@laur282000 The thanks for this is the usurpation of Hungarian territories, namely, Transylvania is that empires have indeed died. Not all changes are for the better. Not all changes can be claimed as progress though. That is certainly the case with the ultimate dismemberment of the Kingdom of Hungary, central Europe's greatest deterrent to national socialism, and finally to communism.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@laur282000 With the weakening of this great power, it opened the floodgates for Hitler's Nazi Germany (and Nazi Rumania, Nazi Hungary), and to Ceasescu's communist Rumania and to communist Hungary. So, how much did Trianon do to improve conditions in central and eastern Europe? This is much more than merely a history lesson. It is a lesson in human survival!
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
Köszönöm az együttérzést :' )
KaksziNugi 1 month ago
what I could never understand is why did Hungary sign the Treaty of Trianon? They did not have to sign, they could have stood up and fought for Hungary, they chose not to. So I must conclude that Hungarians were betrayed by their leaders. The Treaty of Trianon is ILLEGAL ... it amounts to nothing more than extortion!!!
rollerbenz 1 month ago
@rollerbenz You are 110% CORRECT in all respects. As I have said before, quoting other sources, The so-called Treaty of Trianon is the most unethical, illegal treaties in the history of international law! In the very least, it ought to be revised; at best, it should be repealed and reparations paid to Hungarians (NOT the Hungarian government!), who were unjustly made to suffer the actions of their government and foreign governments alike.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@EuroAmerican02 You are correct. The treaty of Trianon wasn't just. The Romanians from the Timok valley remained outside Romania. According to the democratic principle of sovereign people , after the first world war, the major ethnic groups were given the right to have their own independent state, after centuries of abusive occupation, or remain under hungarian domination? Guess what they decided? It was as democratic as possible, something you nomadic people can't understand
VictorIulian1918 1 month ago
@VictorIulian1918 While I would like to fully agree with you, I find that I can only bring myself to agree with your very first sentence. After that, I find myself wandering off to seek more truth in this matter. The single, most glaring error in your assessment of the era is that, contrary to your statement, the people of the dismembered regions had utterly NO VOICE in whether they desired to remain joined to Hungary, or wished to belong to some other nationality.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@VictorIulian1918 The only place where such a plebiscite was conducted, as I have mentioned here in numerous dialogues with others, was in Sopron, a town on the western fringe of Hungary, which elected oveerwhelmingly to remain in Hungary, rather than be dismembered and annexed by Austria. The same would have been undoubtedly true about Ruthenia and many parts of eastern and northern Hungary as well. That's the essence of why Trianon was unjust!
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@VictorIulian1918 I would also like to point out to you, as it is plain to see that you are unfamiliar with the ancient Hungarians, known as Magyars, that they were emphatically NOT nomadic people, but remained stationary in their homelands, just east of the Ural Mountains and southward toward what is today known as Iran. They were a warrior people and capable of defending their homes, property, and people.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@VictorIulian1918 From this region, they migrated into Europe through today's Turkey in the 9th century, 500 years behind their antecedents, the Huns. Truth be known, the ancient Vlachs followed a similar path into Europe. Therefore, Vlachs, far from being indigneous to Romania, particularly to Transylvania, are wanderers too. They followed their sheep and goats to greener pastures and grazing lands. Try not to be insulting, and you may learn more!
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@EuroAmerican02 I don't want to argue with you about the origins of the magyar people. It is clear to everybody except you, who keeps on inventing fairy tales, because you are ashamed of you nomadic nature (perfectly natural). On 1st of December 1918, at Alba Iulia, the overwhelming majority of the Romanian population chose to unite with the Kingdom of Romania, thus, the unification of Romanian land under one sovereign and independent state after 400 years. Just one example
VictorIulian1918 1 month ago
@VictorIulian1918 I don't want to argue with you either. Rumania's people, for the most part, are hopelessly brainwashed, and it's simply no use to try to show you the facts and tell you the truth prior to Rumania's communist (Ceasescu's) regime's distortion of Rumanian history. To avoid argument, I a,m BLOCKING you; I don't want to hear your bullshit and lies!
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@VictorIulian1918 I will tell you, because I like to have the last word, that it is not Hungarians who invented the Daco-Roman-Romanian Theory, but the Rumanians. Far from being ashamed of our long and successful history and heritage, we are proud of it. Unlike Rumania, we have a widely accepted history, a provable, substantial history. Hungary established its statehood in 896 A.D. when Rumanians had not even been inventged yet.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@VictorIulian1918 Instead, there wwere wandering sheepherders and goatfuckers known as Vlachs who had not claimed statehood anywhere in Europe. The unification of Rumania lasted less than 9 months in the 16th century, and, again, less than a quarter of a century after 1918! So, don't be so proud Rumanian. Finally, as you said, it was "the Romanian population" who chose to unite in 1918, certainly not your minorities, who were deadset against it!
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@VictorIulian1918 You demonize Hungary for the same neglect that Rumania is guilty of: the forced assimilation and total domination of its minorities. By all rights, a new Trianon ought to be devised solely for the sake of Rumania by which Rumania should forfeit its ethnic majority territories, such as Szekely Land!
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@rollerbenz dude, we fought!! Hard, but we had no chance, our army was disbanded(thank our idiot, blind leaders), 4 enemy armies were massed against us-romanian, serb, czechoslovak and french! Although we almost pulled it off, but betrayel again and again and again! its sad really!
killer9kid 1 month ago
@killer9kid As you already touched on it, an international conspiracy against the Kingdom of Hungary was led by the French and the Austrians, both of whom were afraid of the growing regional influence of Hungary. They wanted Hungary dismembered, that was the inevitable and unavoidable scheme. Moreover, this filthy alliance used Rumania like a puppet or a pawn.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@killer9kid The French bribed Rumania to turn against Austria by promising them the territory back to the Tisza River (in 1916), and, of course, the French could not single-handedly keep their promise after "the war to end all wars", as World War I came to be known, ended. Instead, Rumania ended up with "only" Transylvania.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
How interesting is that, after Trianon, Austrians went toward Sopron. But there was few Hungarian people with fewer weapon, and suddenly Sopron's residents can elect: Austria or Hungary... Although at the time there lived more Austrian, Sopron is Hungarian to date! (Note: Sopron is now the Civitas Fidelissima (the most faithful city))...
ironmarci5 1 month ago
@ironmarci5 Yes, unfortunately, the circumstances were similar in many regions of the kingdom; citizens did not necessarily want to be separated from Hungary merely based on their ethnicity. It has nothing to do with weapons capability, everything to do with lifestyle issues and loyalty. That is why plebiscites were disallowed under Trianon, and that's what makes Trianon not only unfair, but also renders it one of the most unjust treaties in international jurisprudence.
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
UNGUR = TIGAN
MrVander78alex 2 months ago
@MrVander78alex Român = ţigan
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
La Transylvanie impairs en Hongrie
Tiborka666 2 months ago
This is thrue!!4 veri nice video! from Budapes
This is still very painful for everyone at home. Unfortunately, there are absolutely unable to amirkől Europe! For example, in Slovakia that the present can not speak Hungarian Hungary is not in the Hungarian national anthem played and the flags can not be subjected to either! And in spite of everything, we are the Nazi-fascist people! It's like Israel VS. Only in Palestine of the Palestinian people, unfortunately, the Hungarians :(((((
Robihun4 2 months ago
@Robihun4 Remelem nem veszed rosszneven, hogyha azt mondom, hogy talan jobb lenne, ha magyarul irnad le, amit mondani akartal, mert egyaltalan nem eertheto angolul. Nem tudom, hogy a forditod hibaja, vagy esetleg nem tudsz angolul, de segitsegre van szukseged, az teny. Ismetelem, hogy ezt nem rosszneven vagy rossz indokbol irom neked. Ha tudok valamiben segiteni, csak szoljal nekem. ;)
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Ez egy igaz videó !
Ez még mindíg fáj itthon mindenkinek. Sajnos a világ nem tudja hogy mi folyik itt europában! páldául hogy "szlovákiában" azaz a totoknál nem beszélhetsz magyarul nem használhatod nemzeti szineidet és nem lehet lejátszani a himnuszt ! És mind ennek ellenére mivagyunk a fasiszta-nácik !Ez olyan mint izrael és palesztína háborúja csak sajnos a Magyar nép most a palesztin !
Robihun4 1 month ago
@Robihun4 This is a true video!
This is something that is still painful for everyone at home. Unfortunately, the world does not know what's going on in Europe. For example, it is forbidden to speak Hungarian in Slovakia, or to display the Hungarian flag, and you can't play the Hungarian National Anthem there either. Moreover, in spite of these, we are the fascist Nazis! This is like the war between Israel and Palestine, but, unfortunately, the Hungarian people are now Palestine!
EuroAmerican02 1 month ago
@Robihun4 Ugy latom, megsem volt tul fontos a mondanivalod, mert nem igyekeztel leirni magyarul, hogy kisegitselek az angolnyelv kifejeszeseddel. Na, jol van, akkor legyen igy. Szia!
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
TRIANON was very good.
Started our freedom.
We like Serbian, Slovenian, Ukrainian, Czechian, Croatian, Romanian but do not like ungarian.
You can only cry, because TRIANON is here , Trianon is troo, Trianon is justice.
Cry hune and go back to Asia. GO BECK HUNE.
orbansky 2 months ago
@orbansky Yes, I can see that from your perspective Trianon was very much in your favor. After all, it served to create a nation-state for your disorganized, uncivilized people, named Czechoslovakia. But, then, of course, not only could you not get along with your Hungarian neighbors, you also couldn't get along with your Czech brothers!
huncutAttila8 2 months ago
@orbansky So, you separated from them in 1992, and, ion 1993, formed your own Slovak Republic. Only it is not in reality a republic, is it, but a Slovakian chauvinist dictatorship, with such nationalist-extremists in public office like Fico and Slobota.
Yes, we weep for the injustice of Trianon, and we weep for your theft of our northern highlands!
huncutAttila8 2 months ago
@orbansky We weep for the more than 1/2 MILLION ethnic Hungarians against whom you have passed all manner of discriminatory laws, beginning in 1945 with the Benes decrees, and continuing through the 20th and 21st centuries with the Slovak Language Law, an unheard of act anywhere else in Europe or in the EU!!! Go back to Asia, you say?!? Indeed, we may, right after we send SLOVAKIA BACK TO HELL!
huncutAttila8 2 months ago
@huncutAttila8 There is at least one issue we agree on... ;)
norbico1 2 months ago
@norbico1 I think there are more nissues we agree on ~ secretly, not openly. ;)
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 *issues
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@orbansky Serbian, Slovenian, Ukrainian, Czechian, Croatian, Romanian people are the only one who can understand that Hungary is Hungary and HUNGARY isn't Serbia, Slovenia, Ukrainia, Czech rep, Croatia, Romania....and yes TRANON IS justice....
fortzasteaua1234 2 months ago
@fortzasteaua1234 Many, if not most, countries of the world do not base their geographies on their ethnic demographics. Just because there were a substantial number of ethnic minorities within the Kingdom of Hungary does not justify their TAKING Hungarian territory and making it their respective countries.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@fortzasteaua1234 The TREATY OF TRIANON WAS THE MOST UNJUST AND MOST ILLEGAL DOCUMENT IN THE HISTORY OF INTERNATIONAL LAW!!! That is the observation, AFTER the fact, of those who signed the document not merely my own observation.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 nowadays we Romanians of Transilvania have nothing against Hungarians ..my godfather is Hungarian and we get along perfect ...i`ll give u this ...i have nazzi visions but only towards gypsies!and a proof that Romanians are not that chauvinists is that we never vote for Vadim..who is like the most anti Hungarians person in the Romanian political system!at the same time Hungarians vote for Marko who is an extremist !
cafta 2 months ago
@cafta I'm glad that Romanians and Hungarians are amicable toward each other in Transylvania, according to your family traditions.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta But, a comparison of the ideologies of Béla Markó, a Romanian politician and writer of Hungarian ethnicity, and Corneliu Vadim Tudor, leader of the Greater Romania Party ('Partidul România Mare'), writer, journalist and a Member of the European Parliament, a controversial, essentially populist, political figure, and known for his strongly nationalist and patriotic views ... (continued)
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta the theatrics of which often accompany his rhetoric, and his reliance on the denunications of political opponents (so far, a tactic which several civil lawsuits have ruled slanderous), hardly seems fair to me. In 1991, Tudor and Eugen Barbu founded the Greater Romania Party, the platform of which Time magazine described as "a crude mixture of anti-Semitism, racism and nostalgia for the good old days of communism."
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta Statements made and articles written by Tudor and his party colleagues can also be described as ultra-nationalist, anti-Hungarian sentiment, anti-Roma, and homophobic. Of no less importance is Tudor's irredentism: the ideal of a Greater Romania is what gives the party its name. On the other hand, Béla Markó is the former leader of the Democratic Union of Hungarians in Romania (UDMR), he was also the Deputy Premier in the Emil Boc government (which came to power December 23, 2009);
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta he had also been Minister of State in the Tăriceanu cabinet between 2004 and 2007, in charge of culture, education and research and European integration.
Markó has been a senator since 1990, and was the leader of the UDMR from 1993 to 2011. He competed in the 2004 Romanian presidential election, and ranked fourth with 5.1% of the votes.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta The Democratic Union of Hungarians in Romania, or in Romanian: Uniunea Democrată Maghiară din România, UDMR (inHungarian: Romániai Magyar Demokrata Szövetség, RMDSz) is the main political organisation representing the ethnic Hungarians of Romania. From 1996-2008 Romanian legislative elections, UDMR was a member or supporter of EVERY government. After the 2008 elections, UDMR entered opposition, but at the end of 2009 it became once again a member of the government coalition.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta UDMR aims to represent the Magyar (ethnic Hungarian) community of Romania, which is one of the largest national minorities in Europe (1,431,807 citizens, according to the 2002 census). And finally, as an ethnic minority party representing Romanian Magyars the UDMR, above all, concerns itself with Hungarian minority rights, including cultural and territorial autonomy on an ethnic basis. "Hungarians vote for Marko who is an extremist!" ~ ??? Some extremist...ha!ha!ha!
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta Shall we discuss the platforms of each of these two public figures? And, btw, who is it that is regularly sued for slander (telling lies in public), Marko or Vadim? I'll let you weigh the facts again, and be the judge.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 to support my claim i will quote to you a statement made by Vadim in a televised political debate witch is made before each president election at the national television! Vadim: Mister Marko , you say we(PRM) are extremists ..we have 20.000 Hungarians in our party and 5000 jews...how many Romanians do you have in your party! of course he refused to respond :)
cafta 2 months ago
@cafta Why should he respond to such deceitful statements. 5,000 Jews? According to the World Jewish Congress, there were 428,312 Jews in Romania in 1947. Mass emigration ensued, much of it to the British Mandate of Palestine and later Israel, and much of it technically illegal. By 1956, there were 144,236 Jews in Romania. From 1948 until 1960, more than 200,000 Romanian Jews went to Israel, reducing the population in Romania to less than 100,000 by the 1960s. ... (continued)
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta (continued) The situation for the Jews of Romania later improved, but the community has shrunk - TODAY only 9,000-15,000 Jews live in Romania. So, Vadim wants to convince us that fully one-third to one-half of ALL Romanian Jews support his anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish political party? You know what my response is? Bullshit and MORE lies!
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta 20,000 Hungarians are members of the same anti-Hungarian Romanian political party? I would have to see some very real proof before I believed more his bullshit and lies. Marko was being a gentleman NOT to respond to this FRAUD Vadim.
You managed to substantiate allegations that "several civil lawsuits have ruled slanderous" against Vadim. He is a showman with dangerous and communist ideologies who believes it is okay to slander opponents and lie to Romanians!
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Vadim`s biggest succes in politics was reaching the final a few years ago ...then Romanians where afraid that he would win and vote in big masses with the other candidate witch was a communist :)..we call him Vaccin because of his mental illness obviously !
cafta 2 months ago
@cafta Why can't Romanians see that they are the victims of the government's lies and deceit about everything, including their corrupt government and "modified" history? I don't know how old you are, but I have talked to some Romanians on YouTube (not many), who remember their REAL history and what it was like in your country BEFORE the communists, before Ceasescu. Only Romanian irredentists and nationalist-extremists deny the facts of Romanian history and the true origin of Romanians.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 if you talk about the Roessler theory its just a theory ...we didn`t migrate from Thessaly that is for sure and we are the most numerous people in the area ...we have great culture but no old writing,we where not a great civillisation that`s why we have such a rich culture!we have common ancestors with Albanians but not the way your history books present it ...some of you say Slovaks,Serbs,Romanians,Ukrainians have false history and that`s a little ignorant!
cafta 2 months ago
@cafta While I acknowledge the existence of the Roessler theory, why can't you as a Romanian acknowledge the FOUR THEORIES about the origin of the Romanians? Four theories explain the fact that a language of Latin origin (the Romanian language) is spoken in modern Romania:
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta The ‘theory of Daco-Romanian continuity’ holds that the Romanians are a synthesis of two ethnic elements, namely the Roman conquerors of ancient Dacia and the autochthonous Dacians. Although, the venue of this ethnogenesis was situated on both sides of the Danube, after the onrush of the Slavs, the center of Danubian Romanity was concentrated in today's Romania.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta The ‘immigrationist theory’ or the ‘theory of moving continuity’ (in Romanian scholarship, ‘Roesler’s theory’) suggests that the Romanian language can be traced back to the idiom spoken by the inhabitants of the intensively Romanized provinces of the Roman Empire to the south of the river Danube. After the collapse of the Roman limes on the Danube, they sought refuge in the mountainous regions of the Balkan Peninsula where their language was preserved.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta (continued) The Romanians’ ancestors commenced their migration to the territory of modern Romania not earlier than the 10th–12th centuries.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta An interim theory, the ‘admigration theory’, argues that two centers of the latinophones crystallized in Southeastern Europe: one in Dacia Traiana and the other in the central regions of the Balkan Peninsula. But a close relationship existed between the two centers, and parts of the southern population joined (‘admigrated’ to) the northern latinophones. (continued)
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta (continued) The Romanians thus appear at one and the same time as indigenous (in Dacia Traiana), immigrants (from the south of the Danube), and conquerors (in the principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia).
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta The ‘theory of the core regions of the Romanian language’ implies that the territory where the formation of the Romanians occurred cannot be determined exactly. Instead, a vast homeland is supposed: a large block of latinophones existed in modern Romania, while in other territories solely language islands survived the storms of the Migration Period.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta So, my dear adversary, you c an possibly see here for yourself that there is room for many theories. Not one of them can be proven without the shadow of doubt! None of them is any more factual than any other one, because there is evidence to support any theory or a combination of theories. I don't know your interpretation of a 'rich' culture, but, suffice to say that all European nations, in my humble opinion, have a 'rich' culture indeed.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@cafta There is indeed an element of exaggeration and other falsehoods in the histories of the countries you mentioned, perhaps even to some extent in Hungarian history. The recording of history depends on many factors, as you are probably aware. Not the least of the influences include politics, war, and disasters.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 You can see my age on my channel!
cafta 2 months ago
@cafta You are a young pup, aren't you? ;)
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 kind of !
cafta 2 months ago
@cafta I'm kind of an old fart, but I think we both have much to learn. It only goes to show that a wise person never stops learning! ;)
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 yeah that`s true ..i study tourism:) this is my home activity:)
cafta 2 months ago
@cafta International tourism, or tourism only in Romania?
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Romanian .. At Babes-Bolyai University
cafta 2 months ago
@cafta Unfortunately, your university is also the catalyst for today's Hungarian irredentism, because Babes-Boyai forbade the use of multilingual curricula and posting signs containing grades in the Hungarian (and German) language.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Hungarians learn in their own language!
cafta 2 months ago
@cafta Permit me to enlighten you, as follows: The Babeș-Bolyai University (UBB—Universitatea Babeș-Bolyai, Hungarian: Babeș-Bolyai Tudományegyetem) in Cluj-Napoca is a university in Romania. With almost 50,000 students, the university OFFERS 105 SPECIALIZATIONS; 105 are available in Romanian, and also 67 of them in Hungarian, 17 in German and 5 in English.
EuroAmerican02 2 months ago