In knife fighting, because you cannot reach the CNS (Brain or spine) the most effective Instant stop targets are actually joints and major muscle groups (forearms, biceps, behind the calf and knee, front of thighs, back of thighs) because when you slice someones tendons and ligaments, their use of that arm or leg is instantly gone, even with the most devastating wounds to vital organs, when its done with a blade, it is not instant.
@Kylef7735 You dont have a clue what your talking about kid. You thing someone cant get in close and slide a blade between your vertebrae or the base of the skull at the nape of the neck? stabbing up under the chin, busting through your pallet and into your brain with no bone to stop it. you can put a blade through the nasal cavity, a direct line to the brain with no bone to stop it. how about pushing your blade up under the sternum and ripping it side to side, totally destroying heart and lungs
@HunterKiller308 everything i just noted is a kill shot, and i will be delivering as many of them as i can as fast as i can, you go ahead kid, take out an arm or a leg, ill take out your life. on a side note a long, wide bladed kinfe like the OSS is far more damaging than any handgun bullet in the hands of someone who knows how to use it, knows how to twist and rip the blade when its inside you, carving massive wound channels in your organs
@HunterKiller308 You are living in a fantasy world if you will believe any of that can be accomplished in a fight. What...are you expecting your target to stand there and let you do all that? The way you talk its like youve only ever encountered stationary targets, i would love to see you try to do all these moves against a live body. All of them are pinpoint targets, while the major muscle and tendon groups are very large targets, easier to strike.
you think i cant hit someone in the nose in a fight? cant hit them in the back of the head or under the chin in a fight? your dead wrong, put a blade in that same hand and its hitting your brain. you dont have a clue what your talking about, telling people its better to maime the person doing you harm than ending the threat as soon as it starts. keep your BS to yourself
@HunterKiller308 Read Contemporary knife targeting by michael janich, he tells you more than i ever could.
The shortest way to put it across to you is, Lethal strikes with a knife are Not instantaneous, heck even with a gun the only "one shot stops" are all to Nervous targets and you Cannot hit those in a knife fight. Your best options for instant stops are disabling targets, cause when you cut all the muscles and tendons in someones forearm, they INSTANTLY cannot use that hand. End of story
Reasons I'm not a fan: 420 is the cheapest crappiest steel. Easy to machine though which is why the AUS8 is so much more. The Kraton handle is great too, until you accidentally get some bore solvent on it, then it disintegrates into black glue - and it doesn't take much. Ask me how I know. Last but not least, it is made by slave children in Taiwan.
I have heard that double edged knives are illigal for use in millitary applications due to some geneva convention stuff... can someone please shed some light on this? i mean if you can't use it in the military then why does nutnfancy say thats what he reccomends it for?
@anticannoneer I don't know if double bladed knives are illegal in the military, but I have used a double bladed boot knife on more than 6 combat operations.
@anticannoneer don't worry double edged knives are not only legal, but preferred in a humanitarian sense. the geneva conventions outlaw sawback or serrated knives for combat use because it causes unnecessary suffering to the poor chap being stabbed/cut i.e. torn flesh and bone. double or single edged combat knives are legal. however this is not a legal concern for people operating in regions not under the geneva conventions
I gave this knife to my brother prior to his Iraq deployment in 2009. He carried this for over a year there and is now in SF. It is still mounted to his plate carrier. He loves it. It still looks brand new and has yet to need a resharpening. What a great knife.
those finger guards definitely won't stop a knife. I wanted to get rid of the top one for more control and better reverse grip (really helps!) and I could easily cut it of with my tenacious, almost no resistance
@keesurt It is really more for keeping your fingers back, knife duals are incredibly rare, and even more rare is the ability to use a fine motor skill like stopping a knife.
@CatcherInTheFry The most difficult ability to learn for a real fight is to defend with bare hands against somebody who has a practical weapon and some ability to use it. This is from martial arts instructors that I have met. Even if you are a black belt and facing a guy with a big knife, I think having a big knife as well would do some good. (insert smartass remark of carrying a gun)
Regarding the sheath, when it is fully locked in, it can be extracted fairly easily by pressing the thumb against the back-edge side of the sheath. Also, the sheath offers pretty diverse customization, and the handle-strap could come in handy if the user prefers to keep the handle looser, which could be a legitimate placement depending on the intended use and handle configuration. For anything less than a user moving around vigorously, this should be fine. The locked sheath is bomb-proof :P
All of the knife fighting information and training I know dictates that a hand guard should not be used as a defense against another knife - it's debatable whether any hand guard will consistently defend against a knife strike. Instead, the defender should employ a counter-strike to the attacker's hand, then redirect the knife and follow with a body strike. You're playing Russian roulette with your fingers if you try to defend yourself with anything less than a Bowie hand-guard, IMO.
I know I like the Gerber knives, but after this review, I think it worth getting. Just hearing it's your top pick for the service personnel in the military that's good enough for me. Thank ya.
im someone who practices knife fighting and i want a cold steel knife and i want to know how the revers grip is with this knife. i am also debating along with this knife the srk and the recon tanto i would use the reverse grip a lot and i want to see it it works with this knife. i would also use the knife for outdoor use and at some point i would get all 3 but i dont have the time and money right now
Hey Nut I just want to know if this would be a good knife out on the trail were I might run into a few cougars and who knows what else. I'm planning to hike the hole Appalachian trail and will need a knife that could protect me if needed.
Have any of you seen the video of the OSI in AUS 8 being snapped. I was wondering if anyone else has hurd about the AUS 8 not bending like they show in those tests? I like my OSI but I am thinking about springing for a San Mai III blade. And what does that say on the left hand?
@Hobbes0331 I was about to ask if the San Mai was worth investing in. I really like the OSI and OSS type of knife, but paying more for a blade... I'd like to hear from people who've tested the difference.
Have any of you seen the video of the OSI in AUS 8 being snapped. I was wondering if anyone else has hurd about the AUS 8 not bending like they show in those tests? I like my OSI but I am thinking about springing for a San Mai III blade.
@Alyxcz Only problem with the Steel tiger, is you cant stab, and stabbing is a very important ability for fighting with knives, especially if you want lethal wounds.
@Kylef7735 Still it is a big knife and i think i would be realy afraid of using it every hit can kill and you can end in prison with karambit i think u can control it better.
The new ones now are made of vg10 san mai steel. If you see cold steels video you see a man get attacked by a buffalo and he kills the buffalo in an african hunt after he got shot with a gun ofcourse but still thats crazy.
hey i wanted to let you know because of this review a 9 MONTH JURNEY IN KNIFE RESEARCH has satisfied me i will be buying this kniife in aus 8 for 60 bucks and found the kobun for twenty bucks love cold steel thanks hooah
@lndrymtthw Hmmm you probably did shut me up, i ment for Utility purposes but it can still do pretty decent as a fighting knife plus it has a pommel, nd the back clip can be sharpened if necessary. The only other reason why i think it is more expenseive is because of the Retention system, but it isn't for lefties. It just came out this year to the Cold Steel OSS's about 5 year now? Gerber might improve it and make it better steels but for now it is just a baby compared to the cold steel OSS.
There is a better CQB knife the only downside is that it is 420HC steel by Gerber, it is called the Gerber LHR only if Gerber made it AUS8A or better -.-
Another good CQB knife is the Gerber LHR he should really do a tabletop review on it it is also pretty cool plus it has a pommel and a part is serrated and it is 420HC :D
@kayak17 For a fighter (which this one is) , san mai 3, cause it holds its edge better than the AUS8A, But for a woods craft blade (You would never use this one for that) i would say AUS8A
@nutnfancy Hey Nutn & Veri, I am happy to inform you that i just purchased the cold steel srk instead of the short kabar. Thanks for your suggestion nutn and thanks veri for responding to my comment. Happy 4th of july!
Would the osi version work well for chopping limbs, battoning through medium sized logs and similar camp tasks while also being an effective last defense against animals? because that is what i am looking for, and the price is right. Get back to me when you can, thanks.
Hey Nutnfancy, what do you think of the San Mai 3 OSS ? I have one and it's the lightest large knife I own. Seems like it would be a great fighter but not something I would want to use for much else for fear of trashing that beautiful blade !
A note to the author: Kraton isn't exactly rubber, but a copolymer containing rubber and polystyrene. I happen to own a knife with a rubber handle, and the grip is somewhere between mediocre and awful, even plastic handles of an M7 bayonet provide better grip in my opinion (than rubber, not kraton). BTW: since you own this knife, I've got a question to ask you: doesn't the underhilt hamper the ability to change the knife's grip from standard 'sabre' grip to reverse grip?
Pulling the OSS (or OSI) out of the sheath isn't a one-handed job only because the knife is so damn big. You pretty much have to hold the other end of the sheath while pulling on the handle to ensure that the blade actually comes out smoothly. Other than that this is a wicked blade. It's almost like a miniature sword.
If I had to choose a backup tactical, I would go with something in the 5-6 inch range, just because they're somewhat easier to extract.
I greatly appreciate your reviews. I am a backpacker and just got a wood stove. This knife would more than handle any needs on the trail and breaking down wood for fires? That is all I want it for. But I am pretty sure that I will go with the OSI. Sound possible?
please tell me your insight on the following: could the OSI, either in aus8 or sanmai III, serve as a camping knives for bushcraft and light batonning(I dunno, under 5inch logs)?
I'm looking for an stainless alternative for my TM in sk5, especially for hikes.
I'm not an expert but here's my opinion: The OSI is going to be better than the OSS for camping/outdoors because the single-edged blade is much stronger than the double-edged blade. Of course, nothing beats a machete, but the OSI will get pretty close for small work. The San Mai III is expensive and impractical as a bush knife, but if you've go the money to spare, go for it. Otherwise, the AUS8a is probably the better steel.
Me, my bro, my friends all have this blade,, its fucking badass. I got mine from a friend already used, and i've had it for about 3 years now,, and its never been sharpened, and its still RAZOR SHARP. I love it very much,, I have the one with black blade which i like since its not shiny. I cannot stress how sharp this blade is,,, razor sharp heh. This is not a utility knife,, so hopefully people wont use it as such. Get the Recon Tanto if u need a good utility knife.
I haven't heard good things about VG1 for hard use (the VG steels chip easily). I would go with AUS 8, or whatever other steel is offered for it, and save yourself $40 whileyou're at it.
Great reviews. I don't like the rubber guard either...If not for your review I wouldn't have known it. I'm going to spend the extra cash on the black bear classic. Thanks!
It is not a finger guard in that sense, it is made for you not to slip, and if used as intended in this video not in knife to knife combat, that is just fine. And an advantage in weight.
Oh, also, the more expensive one is NOT called the "Sub Hilt Fighter." The OSS is a sub-hilt fighter. The more expensive one is called the "Black Bear Classic."
He's got a couple of knife sharpening videos, but he also takes knives to John Fitzen (search "fitzenknives" here on YouTube) if he wants them profiled. He doesn't feel like he's the best knife sharpener and likes for John work his magic. -- Veri (Nutn's sister)
I'm new to the knife world but however i do own a cold steel SRK i bought it in Iraq years ago and i really like your reviews . i was wondering if you could review the SOG tigershark please thank you
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This is not a defensive knife, it's purely an attack knife - when sneaking up behind someone performing an ear to ear slice on their throat or poking it into their floating ribs. The problem I have with an weakly designed, or no cross guarded knife is that if your opponent is trained, he can disarm you easily by attacking your knife hand (even with only a blunt instrument). It doesn't take much to realize that once you are unarmed and your strong hand can't hold a blade anymore, you are DEAD.
I carry this as a CQB backup weapon for that use only and I use a good folding knife for utility needs. Either a Zero Tolerance 3000 or Camillus Heat for utility use. But sometimes other blades like a SOG Trident.
OSS or the NEW OSI, I am thinking of buying the OSS, but the OSI came out and the is a full flat grind, but the OSS is double edged, I don't know which one I should get, can anyone help me?
What a great line about a fourth of the way: "[A]nd you don't practice knife fighting all the time, which is basically ALL of us [...]." Well said, and good point.
it is a nice looking blade i admit. Yet a bit on the pricey side. I will stick to my Marine Corps bayonete. It is without a doubt the toughest blade a common man can buy. Also out of the box it can cut through a standard kevlar vest like butter. A knife is a poor wepon if you do not have the advantage of surprise.
I am trying to find a reliable site to purchase them from, however I see in their photos that the blade has "CHINA" stamped on it. I was wondering if yours has that same stamp, or if the box it came in had it...
Or you need to be a crazy motherfucker who has ammo and is in a hidden position, and sees an enemy scout, and wants to stab him instead of shooting him just for fun. Also there are a lot of instances where close quarters combat happens and you need a knife.
Good point--believing the myth of fighting is far easier than reality. In real combat, you WANT any advantage, fairness be damned. The other guy may have a gun if you only have a knife, and you got it--you are screwed indeed. I recall reading online not long ago from either someone in the military or government that he did not "want to see an American fight a fair war ever," meaning range is most important. It's easy to forget this and get caught up in mythology of blade engagements.
i like to keep the webbing on and i attach it to my belt or to some tactical webbing, and simply pull it out,yet keep the strap on so its still on. All i do is unsnap the strap holding it and its easy pulling out.
i have one, but i have the version with the black blade with only a shiny end of the blades. Its badass, whenever i show it off i shave some hair on my arm to show its razor sharp touch. VERY SHARP! very durable and will never dull/break any cold steel is worth it.
I am waiting on an OSS in the mail for whats left of hunting season. Walking out of the woods at night and possibly having some fox cover scent on me in the dark and all i gots my bow and arrow in the dark. I desided to go a united cutlery bowie, but i got the OSS on a christmas scale. my field dressing knife is a cold steel bowie spike.
its not reach, its penetration. the FBI said you need a minimum of 12" of penetration with handgun bullets to reach all vital organs
HunterKiller308 1 month ago in playlist Cold Steel OSS
@HunterKiller308 They were accounting for every possible angle, like if you were shooting through as much flesh as possible before reaching vitals.
Fighting with a knife is a TOTALLY different proposition.
Kylef7735 3 weeks ago
@Kylef7735 how to you figure? if i stab you in the side i want a blade long enough to tickle your heart or lungs
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
@HunterKiller308 See thats not gonna need 12 inches (and also in a blade fight lethal strikes are not a good first choice)
What the fbi is considering is like going through an arm, and a pectoral muscle, and then vitals, that isnt going to happen with a blade.
Kylef7735 3 weeks ago
@Kylef7735 lethal strikes are not a good first choice? what are you talking about, they are the only choice.
why do think a blade cant go through and arm and a pec? meat is meat, as long as you dont hit bone that thing is sinking to the hilt
HunterKiller308 3 weeks ago
@HunterKiller308 You do not know much about knife fighting.
In knife fighting, because you cannot reach the CNS (Brain or spine) the most effective Instant stop targets are actually joints and major muscle groups (forearms, biceps, behind the calf and knee, front of thighs, back of thighs) because when you slice someones tendons and ligaments, their use of that arm or leg is instantly gone, even with the most devastating wounds to vital organs, when its done with a blade, it is not instant.
Kylef7735 3 weeks ago
@Kylef7735 You dont have a clue what your talking about kid. You thing someone cant get in close and slide a blade between your vertebrae or the base of the skull at the nape of the neck? stabbing up under the chin, busting through your pallet and into your brain with no bone to stop it. you can put a blade through the nasal cavity, a direct line to the brain with no bone to stop it. how about pushing your blade up under the sternum and ripping it side to side, totally destroying heart and lungs
HunterKiller308 2 weeks ago
@HunterKiller308 everything i just noted is a kill shot, and i will be delivering as many of them as i can as fast as i can, you go ahead kid, take out an arm or a leg, ill take out your life. on a side note a long, wide bladed kinfe like the OSS is far more damaging than any handgun bullet in the hands of someone who knows how to use it, knows how to twist and rip the blade when its inside you, carving massive wound channels in your organs
HunterKiller308 2 weeks ago
@HunterKiller308 You are living in a fantasy world if you will believe any of that can be accomplished in a fight. What...are you expecting your target to stand there and let you do all that? The way you talk its like youve only ever encountered stationary targets, i would love to see you try to do all these moves against a live body. All of them are pinpoint targets, while the major muscle and tendon groups are very large targets, easier to strike.
Kylef7735 2 weeks ago
@Kylef7735 LMFAO
you think i cant hit someone in the nose in a fight? cant hit them in the back of the head or under the chin in a fight? your dead wrong, put a blade in that same hand and its hitting your brain. you dont have a clue what your talking about, telling people its better to maime the person doing you harm than ending the threat as soon as it starts. keep your BS to yourself
HunterKiller308 1 week ago
@HunterKiller308 Read Contemporary knife targeting by michael janich, he tells you more than i ever could.
The shortest way to put it across to you is, Lethal strikes with a knife are Not instantaneous, heck even with a gun the only "one shot stops" are all to Nervous targets and you Cannot hit those in a knife fight. Your best options for instant stops are disabling targets, cause when you cut all the muscles and tendons in someones forearm, they INSTANTLY cannot use that hand. End of story
Kylef7735 1 week ago
diggin that mod
ogarts 1 month ago
Reasons I'm not a fan: 420 is the cheapest crappiest steel. Easy to machine though which is why the AUS8 is so much more. The Kraton handle is great too, until you accidentally get some bore solvent on it, then it disintegrates into black glue - and it doesn't take much. Ask me how I know. Last but not least, it is made by slave children in Taiwan.
CaptainObvious1970 1 month ago
I have heard that double edged knives are illigal for use in millitary applications due to some geneva convention stuff... can someone please shed some light on this? i mean if you can't use it in the military then why does nutnfancy say thats what he reccomends it for?
anticannoneer 2 months ago
@anticannoneer
Fuck the Geneva Conventions. Any stool in a bar fight, my friend.
stopthemadness99 1 month ago
@anticannoneer I don't know if double bladed knives are illegal in the military, but I have used a double bladed boot knife on more than 6 combat operations.
QRFCombatVET 1 month ago in playlist BEST SOLDIER GEAR by Nutnfancy
@anticannoneer don't worry double edged knives are not only legal, but preferred in a humanitarian sense. the geneva conventions outlaw sawback or serrated knives for combat use because it causes unnecessary suffering to the poor chap being stabbed/cut i.e. torn flesh and bone. double or single edged combat knives are legal. however this is not a legal concern for people operating in regions not under the geneva conventions
Nicholas1350 1 month ago
I'm not sure if I would trust those guards, it may but it still creeps me out.
soldier715 2 months ago
@soldier715 I purchased one... probably just going to replace the guards with steel
PyroXiphos 2 months ago in playlist Cold Steel OSS
I gave this knife to my brother prior to his Iraq deployment in 2009. He carried this for over a year there and is now in SF. It is still mounted to his plate carrier. He loves it. It still looks brand new and has yet to need a resharpening. What a great knife.
cassiusclaynyc 2 months ago
those finger guards definitely won't stop a knife. I wanted to get rid of the top one for more control and better reverse grip (really helps!) and I could easily cut it of with my tenacious, almost no resistance
keesurt 3 months ago
@keesurt It is really more for keeping your fingers back, knife duals are incredibly rare, and even more rare is the ability to use a fine motor skill like stopping a knife.
armedtetrapod 2 months ago
@armedtetrapod very good point. although i have heard more stories of succesfull self defense of knife VS open hand then knife VS knife.
CatcherInTheFry 2 months ago
@CatcherInTheFry The most difficult ability to learn for a real fight is to defend with bare hands against somebody who has a practical weapon and some ability to use it. This is from martial arts instructors that I have met. Even if you are a black belt and facing a guy with a big knife, I think having a big knife as well would do some good. (insert smartass remark of carrying a gun)
mojothemigo 2 months ago
how about the San MAI III?
MrDawggie 3 months ago
That knife means business.
SuperRip7 6 months ago
if this is a "backup" knife.... i wonder what kind of knife is the "main" lol
driftworld86 7 months ago
@driftworld86 This is the backup, and the "main" would be a tactical carbine, for example.
marksmanman96 6 months ago
oh yeyah
223dboy 7 months ago in playlist Fixed Blade Knives Reviewed by Nutnfancy
great review dude... just bought an OSS :)
87hevn 7 months ago
This is by far the best knife I ever owned.
SilverBazooka10 8 months ago
Regarding the sheath, when it is fully locked in, it can be extracted fairly easily by pressing the thumb against the back-edge side of the sheath. Also, the sheath offers pretty diverse customization, and the handle-strap could come in handy if the user prefers to keep the handle looser, which could be a legitimate placement depending on the intended use and handle configuration. For anything less than a user moving around vigorously, this should be fine. The locked sheath is bomb-proof :P
horrorfan13666 8 months ago
All of the knife fighting information and training I know dictates that a hand guard should not be used as a defense against another knife - it's debatable whether any hand guard will consistently defend against a knife strike. Instead, the defender should employ a counter-strike to the attacker's hand, then redirect the knife and follow with a body strike. You're playing Russian roulette with your fingers if you try to defend yourself with anything less than a Bowie hand-guard, IMO.
horrorfan13666 8 months ago
$55.00 for this knife in AUS8a steel on amazon.
fetus2genius1 8 months ago
I know I like the Gerber knives, but after this review, I think it worth getting. Just hearing it's your top pick for the service personnel in the military that's good enough for me. Thank ya.
DennyRec 9 months ago
im someone who practices knife fighting and i want a cold steel knife and i want to know how the revers grip is with this knife. i am also debating along with this knife the srk and the recon tanto i would use the reverse grip a lot and i want to see it it works with this knife. i would also use the knife for outdoor use and at some point i would get all 3 but i dont have the time and money right now
llHYDRO13ll 10 months ago
What are your thoughts on the OSI pou? Could it flex into a Ka-Bar competitor?
NutnfancyDiehard 10 months ago
Hey Nut I just want to know if this would be a good knife out on the trail were I might run into a few cougars and who knows what else. I'm planning to hike the hole Appalachian trail and will need a knife that could protect me if needed.
Thanks
miketube361 1 year ago
Have any of you seen the video of the OSI in AUS 8 being snapped. I was wondering if anyone else has hurd about the AUS 8 not bending like they show in those tests? I like my OSI but I am thinking about springing for a San Mai III blade. And what does that say on the left hand?
Hobbes0331 1 year ago
@Hobbes0331 I was about to ask if the San Mai was worth investing in. I really like the OSI and OSS type of knife, but paying more for a blade... I'd like to hear from people who've tested the difference.
KChapman333 1 year ago
Have any of you seen the video of the OSI in AUS 8 being snapped. I was wondering if anyone else has hurd about the AUS 8 not bending like they show in those tests? I like my OSI but I am thinking about springing for a San Mai III blade.
Hobbes0331 1 year ago
great vid. do you have any experience with the cold steel boar hunter? im thinking of ordering one and wanted to know if it is worth the cash
nkzbigtuna 1 year ago
@alexdaman8 Just found this comment, sorry the answer is so late. TNP = The Nutnfancy Project. -- Veri
nutnfancy 1 year ago
@nutnfancy Hey veri, I have one more question for nutn can you please ask him what he uses to oil his knives? Thanks!
deathfromabove555 8 months ago
@deathfromabove555 He uses Rem oil. -- Veri
nutnfancy 8 months ago
Yea great on self defence but i think Steel tiger would be maybe even better.
Alyxcz 1 year ago
@Alyxcz Only problem with the Steel tiger, is you cant stab, and stabbing is a very important ability for fighting with knives, especially if you want lethal wounds.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
@Kylef7735 Still it is a big knife and i think i would be realy afraid of using it every hit can kill and you can end in prison with karambit i think u can control it better.
Alyxcz 1 year ago
@Alyxcz Assault and murder are treated basically the same now a days.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
have you ever been in a combat situation?
gmlondon92 1 year ago
@nutnfancy Hey, nutn you had a type in your description. You said "More importantly it won't kill you load out." Change that 'you' to your.
45calibermedic 1 year ago
@45calibermedic Good eye, thanks medic! -- Veri
nutnfancy 1 year ago
The new ones now are made of vg10 san mai steel. If you see cold steels video you see a man get attacked by a buffalo and he kills the buffalo in an african hunt after he got shot with a gun ofcourse but still thats crazy.
goatkiller68 1 year ago
@goatkiller68 it is vg-1, not vg-10.
1987jkilla 1 year ago
wat do you use to sharpen your knives? jw i use cheap sharpeners but they work good
leprachaunbeast123 1 year ago
hey i wanted to let you know because of this review a 9 MONTH JURNEY IN KNIFE RESEARCH has satisfied me i will be buying this kniife in aus 8 for 60 bucks and found the kobun for twenty bucks love cold steel thanks hooah
bcott28 1 year ago
@lndrymtthw Hmmm you probably did shut me up, i ment for Utility purposes but it can still do pretty decent as a fighting knife plus it has a pommel, nd the back clip can be sharpened if necessary. The only other reason why i think it is more expenseive is because of the Retention system, but it isn't for lefties. It just came out this year to the Cold Steel OSS's about 5 year now? Gerber might improve it and make it better steels but for now it is just a baby compared to the cold steel OSS.
Tux3d0 1 year ago
Can you think about doing a Review on the Gerber LHR really it is better then the OSS except for the 420 Steel...
Tux3d0 1 year ago
knife on knife... pfft... you pull a knife on me when i am disarmed... i reach for my backup gun!
vampire847 1 year ago
on amazon for 50 bucks
vampire847 1 year ago
now its made of AUS 8
InsertGun 1 year ago
have they changed the steel since '08, or did you just get it wrong? The Cold Steel website says they use AUS8A.
Elvirth24 1 year ago
@Elvirth24 it is still AUS 8
InsertGun 1 year ago
@InsertGun I meant did they change it from 420 Cold Quench... I wasn't thinking. :P
Elvirth24 1 year ago
Whats your opinion on using blades for home defense (where guns are illegal)?
thorington 1 year ago
Nice Knife But I Love My Cold Steel Recon Scout San Mai 3!
PEREZCHOOCH 1 year ago
There is a better CQB knife the only downside is that it is 420HC steel by Gerber, it is called the Gerber LHR only if Gerber made it AUS8A or better -.-
Tux3d0 1 year ago
@Tux3d0 I agree. That knife is sick!
ManVsZ0MBiE 1 year ago
Another good CQB knife is the Gerber LHR he should really do a tabletop review on it it is also pretty cool plus it has a pommel and a part is serrated and it is 420HC :D
Tux3d0 1 year ago
Would you recommend the San Mai III or Aus 8A version?
kayak17 1 year ago
@kayak17 For a fighter (which this one is) , san mai 3, cause it holds its edge better than the AUS8A, But for a woods craft blade (You would never use this one for that) i would say AUS8A
Kylef7735 1 year ago
@Kylef7735 Thanks for the response.
kayak17 1 year ago
@kayak17 You are welcome.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
@kayak17 San Mai III it holds edge better and gets sharper...
Tux3d0 1 year ago
an "army guy"?!? son if you had any respect for the the military you would call us soldiers
LegacyPranks 1 year ago
@LegacyPranks If you had any idea what you were talking about (especially military) you would know how dumb you sound.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
How about for a survival knife in Aus 8. Would that do good?
xxdandan123 1 year ago
@xxdandan123 I tried to use a SOG AUS-8 knife as a survival blade, batoned a small amount of wood with it, and it snapped clean in half :P
MrTefached 1 year ago
@xxdandan123 Yes it is good, Nutnfancys highest reccomended medium survival knife " THE cold steel SRK" is in AUS8.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
Hey nutn, how much did you pay for this knife? i found it for $63 dollars! i think thats a good deal
fallendude01 1 year ago
@fallendude01 Nutn says he thinks he paid about $45 for this knife, but its gone up. He loves it. -- Veri
nutnfancy 1 year ago
@nutnfancy try cutlery shoppe they have it there for 49.99 it is the cheapest i have found
zombinator100 1 year ago
@nutnfancy Hey Veri, can you ask nutn if he recomends the 5.25 short version kabar.
Thanks alot!
deathfromabove555 8 months ago
@deathfromabove555 Nutn says that he its a good knife, but he prefers the Cold Steel SRK or SOG Northwest Ranger over it. Hope that helps. -- Veri
nutnfancy 8 months ago
@nutnfancy Hey Nutn & Veri, I am happy to inform you that i just purchased the cold steel srk instead of the short kabar. Thanks for your suggestion nutn and thanks veri for responding to my comment. Happy 4th of july!
deathfromabove555 8 months ago
@deathfromabove555 Happy 4th to you too! -- Veri
nutnfancy 8 months ago
@fallendude01 i paid 49$
thewarrior1989 1 year ago
@fallendude01 try cutlery shoppe it is 49.99 the cheapest i have found so far just ordered it for my collection cant weight
zombinator100 1 year ago
How do the guard and sub-hilt feel? Are they very firm, or have a bit of give?
kingocarina 1 year ago
@kingocarina They are steel.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
Would the osi version work well for chopping limbs, battoning through medium sized logs and similar camp tasks while also being an effective last defense against animals? because that is what i am looking for, and the price is right. Get back to me when you can, thanks.
Pwinklebottom 1 year ago
Hey Nutnfancy, what do you think of the San Mai 3 OSS ? I have one and it's the lightest large knife I own. Seems like it would be a great fighter but not something I would want to use for much else for fear of trashing that beautiful blade !
R6Dave11 1 year ago
A note to the author: Kraton isn't exactly rubber, but a copolymer containing rubber and polystyrene. I happen to own a knife with a rubber handle, and the grip is somewhere between mediocre and awful, even plastic handles of an M7 bayonet provide better grip in my opinion (than rubber, not kraton). BTW: since you own this knife, I've got a question to ask you: doesn't the underhilt hamper the ability to change the knife's grip from standard 'sabre' grip to reverse grip?
stridingshadow 1 year ago
I love my OSS knife. It is the best looking knife in the Cold Steel collection.
Notoriousdsb 1 year ago
That is a wicked looking double edged blade O_o
Darthwannabe 1 year ago
mine broke in the house so I don't know how I feel about this knife...it fell on the floor.
bluedeathva 1 year ago
does it come with the bead-blast finish?
fredjustsucks 1 year ago
Pulling the OSS (or OSI) out of the sheath isn't a one-handed job only because the knife is so damn big. You pretty much have to hold the other end of the sheath while pulling on the handle to ensure that the blade actually comes out smoothly. Other than that this is a wicked blade. It's almost like a miniature sword.
If I had to choose a backup tactical, I would go with something in the 5-6 inch range, just because they're somewhat easier to extract.
5440Borderline 1 year ago
love the oss, my favorite fighting fixed knife, that long double edge is just perfect!
forkedroad 1 year ago
I greatly appreciate your reviews. I am a backpacker and just got a wood stove. This knife would more than handle any needs on the trail and breaking down wood for fires? That is all I want it for. But I am pretty sure that I will go with the OSI. Sound possible?
jeeping32810 1 year ago
Hello NutNfancy!
please tell me your insight on the following: could the OSI, either in aus8 or sanmai III, serve as a camping knives for bushcraft and light batonning(I dunno, under 5inch logs)?
I'm looking for an stainless alternative for my TM in sk5, especially for hikes.
tks
EasternGateGuardian 1 year ago
EasternGateGuardian,
I'm not an expert but here's my opinion: The OSI is going to be better than the OSS for camping/outdoors because the single-edged blade is much stronger than the double-edged blade. Of course, nothing beats a machete, but the OSI will get pretty close for small work. The San Mai III is expensive and impractical as a bush knife, but if you've go the money to spare, go for it. Otherwise, the AUS8a is probably the better steel.
Stratocaster05 1 year ago
Me, my bro, my friends all have this blade,, its fucking badass. I got mine from a friend already used, and i've had it for about 3 years now,, and its never been sharpened, and its still RAZOR SHARP. I love it very much,, I have the one with black blade which i like since its not shiny. I cannot stress how sharp this blade is,,, razor sharp heh. This is not a utility knife,, so hopefully people wont use it as such. Get the Recon Tanto if u need a good utility knife.
jwka2001 1 year ago
Are you sure its 420 and not 4116 krupp?
snipersquirrelninja 1 year ago
i would realy like to see a video on how you would strap a knife to the sholder of your lbe and what knives are good for that
deadeyedan666 2 years ago
I haven't heard good things about VG1 for hard use (the VG steels chip easily). I would go with AUS 8, or whatever other steel is offered for it, and save yourself $40 whileyou're at it.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. :)
GoHopewell 2 years ago
For a big guy "Lynn Thompson" can move really fast. I definitely would not want to get into a knife fight with him........
TheChopper1000 2 years ago 20
@TheChopper1000 lol me either, he probably picks fights just to practice his knife skills heh
jwka2001 1 year ago
@TheChopper1000 ive been wondering this for awhile: do you think Lynn Thompson has ever actually been in a dangerous situation?
bobjoemagee 1 year ago
Great reviews. I don't like the rubber guard either...If not for your review I wouldn't have known it. I'm going to spend the extra cash on the black bear classic. Thanks!
TheChopper1000 2 years ago
were can i get one
SniperSchool101 2 years ago
i dont like the finger guard at all, the one on the recon scout is better in my opinion
no1livez4evr 2 years ago
Hi
It is not a finger guard in that sense, it is made for you not to slip, and if used as intended in this video not in knife to knife combat, that is just fine. And an advantage in weight.
Rasenkrieger 2 years ago
Oh, also, the more expensive one is NOT called the "Sub Hilt Fighter." The OSS is a sub-hilt fighter. The more expensive one is called the "Black Bear Classic."
LaughingFlame 2 years ago 6
@LaughingFlame Thanks...Seriously, the BBC is my favorite knife
GrizzlyPanda347 7 months ago
Hey Veri, why doesn't Nutn ever reply himself?
LaughingFlame 2 years ago 2
how do you sharpen your knives to get such a razor edge??
steeltimberwolf 2 years ago
He's got a couple of knife sharpening videos, but he also takes knives to John Fitzen (search "fitzenknives" here on YouTube) if he wants them profiled. He doesn't feel like he's the best knife sharpener and likes for John work his magic. -- Veri (Nutn's sister)
nutnfancy 2 years ago 2
@nutnfancy
no offense but i doubt that you are nutn's sister
your probably nutn
riseofdixieland13 1 year ago
I'm new to the knife world but however i do own a cold steel SRK i bought it in Iraq years ago and i really like your reviews . i was wondering if you could review the SOG tigershark please thank you
cliftonmaurice 2 years ago
can you reveiw the OSI too?
ChooChooTrain190 2 years ago 3
It's a small possibility, But It definitely would not go through the hard plate.
DeaDMiinDz 2 years ago
You would not cut through a Hard plate
DeaDMiinDz 2 years ago
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This is not a defensive knife, it's purely an attack knife - when sneaking up behind someone performing an ear to ear slice on their throat or poking it into their floating ribs. The problem I have with an weakly designed, or no cross guarded knife is that if your opponent is trained, he can disarm you easily by attacking your knife hand (even with only a blunt instrument). It doesn't take much to realize that once you are unarmed and your strong hand can't hold a blade anymore, you are DEAD.
JMBOZ01 2 years ago
Cool story bro.
mulbert6 2 years ago
plz do a review on strider knives!
jimmiexiong 2 years ago
OOH-RAH
superassassin47 2 years ago 13
I carry this as a CQB backup weapon for that use only and I use a good folding knife for utility needs. Either a Zero Tolerance 3000 or Camillus Heat for utility use. But sometimes other blades like a SOG Trident.
SuperRobot7 2 years ago
Thank You
SMPhillysports 2 years ago
OSS or the NEW OSI, I am thinking of buying the OSS, but the OSI came out and the is a full flat grind, but the OSS is double edged, I don't know which one I should get, can anyone help me?
SMPhillysports 2 years ago
id get the oss because im getting one two oss looks thicker and double edge is great
BADassDANTE 2 years ago
wich is best a OSS or a ka-bar utility? for toughness,reliabillity, performance etc...
KNIFE OF WAR, OUT
knifeofwar 2 years ago
wow thats weird.i was going to ask the same question.
macawskater 2 years ago
OSS
MrGrimmv2 2 years ago
Ka-bar utility probably wont ever fail you unless u really really try, stays sharp, and in a case of a fight ka-bar is made to kill as well.
1100602 2 years ago 3
how tough is the tip of the blade?
do you think i should go with the srk if i want a tougher knive?
jacobninja25 2 years ago
hm... Pakinstans seems to be next, unfortunately.
DudeNumberOnePlus 2 years ago
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stop talking about Iraq ,Afghanistan , Vietnam, Pakistan...
MARDUK1889 2 years ago
CQB? I think he means CQC...
xorganizationxvx 3 years ago
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SaiTaisho 2 years ago
Close Quarter Battle, Close Quarter Combat. Whatever.
relicen1 2 years ago
Is it Sub zero quenched 4116 Krupp stainless steel? Or 420? Or are they both the same?
xorganizationxvx 3 years ago
he SAID 420
itxploded 2 years ago
Cold steel website says AUS8A.
relicen1 2 years ago
Look at the description, they make both
rooftopeagle 2 years ago
It doesn't say that and they don't. He even says in the video that the newer ones are made in AUS8.
relicen1 2 years ago
Anyone know if this knife has through-tang or full-tang construction?
It looks like a nice knife, but the website doesn't say whether they use a good tang or the 'rat-tail' tang found on cheaper knives.
DoritoMonk 3 years ago
True--just saving funds for anything is doable but takes time.
americanwillow 3 years ago
What a great line about a fourth of the way: "[A]nd you don't practice knife fighting all the time, which is basically ALL of us [...]." Well said, and good point.
americanwillow 3 years ago
it is a nice looking blade i admit. Yet a bit on the pricey side. I will stick to my Marine Corps bayonete. It is without a doubt the toughest blade a common man can buy. Also out of the box it can cut through a standard kevlar vest like butter. A knife is a poor wepon if you do not have the advantage of surprise.
n8tex254 3 years ago
I am trying to find a reliable site to purchase them from, however I see in their photos that the blade has "CHINA" stamped on it. I was wondering if yours has that same stamp, or if the box it came in had it...
shoangore 3 years ago
If you need a knife to kill in combat,you are
pretty much up shit river.That means you are out of ammo.The knife we need in service is a good utility knife.
mwillblade 3 years ago
xsf-1, look it up, it's wonderful, pricey but SOOOOO worth it
chushinryoku 3 years ago
Or you need to be a crazy motherfucker who has ammo and is in a hidden position, and sees an enemy scout, and wants to stab him instead of shooting him just for fun. Also there are a lot of instances where close quarters combat happens and you need a knife.
Rodchesterlol 3 years ago
Good point--believing the myth of fighting is far easier than reality. In real combat, you WANT any advantage, fairness be damned. The other guy may have a gun if you only have a knife, and you got it--you are screwed indeed. I recall reading online not long ago from either someone in the military or government that he did not "want to see an American fight a fair war ever," meaning range is most important. It's easy to forget this and get caught up in mythology of blade engagements.
americanwillow 3 years ago 2
i like to keep the webbing on and i attach it to my belt or to some tactical webbing, and simply pull it out,yet keep the strap on so its still on. All i do is unsnap the strap holding it and its easy pulling out.
jwka2001 3 years ago
i have one, but i have the version with the black blade with only a shiny end of the blades. Its badass, whenever i show it off i shave some hair on my arm to show its razor sharp touch. VERY SHARP! very durable and will never dull/break any cold steel is worth it.
jwka2001 3 years ago
I am waiting on an OSS in the mail for whats left of hunting season. Walking out of the woods at night and possibly having some fox cover scent on me in the dark and all i gots my bow and arrow in the dark. I desided to go a united cutlery bowie, but i got the OSS on a christmas scale. my field dressing knife is a cold steel bowie spike.
derekgrebner87 3 years ago
i have gotan oss but i really want masters of defense CQD MKV ATAC
cootrienman 3 years ago
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knife welding fag
wontonv20 3 years ago
How well the edge wore out as in how fast it wore out or how well it stood up to punishment? Sorry, it was a little confusing, great video though.
Reaper87xx 3 years ago
Great videos. I was looking at this knife for my brother who's in the Army. Your review convinced me this would be a great gift for his graduation.
Reaper87xx 3 years ago
The Tek Lok comes with flush mount screws. I used two on one side then I zip tied it on the other with small black zip ties.
nutnfancy 3 years ago
What do you think of the cold steel kukri, your vids are great
LIGHTNINGLEVIS 3 years ago 2
Good for hacking brush and/or bad guys. Used with great effect along those lines in WWII by our Allies.
nutnfancy 3 years ago 2
are you doing 23 degrees on each side, or total?
ieatsuka 3 years ago
wat does LBE stand for?
Subpyr0 3 years ago
Load Bearing Equipment. The term for your belt, vest, canteens, mag pouches, sidearm and holster, etc. that you wear in the military.
fuerstjd 3 years ago
What does LBE stand for?
Bananafish606 3 years ago
Load Bearing Equipment ie the nylon harness assembly or vests used to carry combat loads.
nutnfancy 3 years ago
But what do u think abut BLACK BEAR CLASSIC ??
seven47katana 3 years ago