Dominican Republic - From Sanchez to Samana

[kentarikhapri]

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@kentarikhapri

Dominicans are descendants of mostly Africans not Africans Americans. Stop spreading lies.

You are right my Brotha, so are Blacks in the U.S. That what I'm saying, that's all

[chsn09]

Also anywhere there are blacks there are issues w/ skin color and self hate problems. So this is NOT exclusive just to DR.

[APGifts]

@chsn09

TRUE!

The Dominican Republic is hardly alone in these issues.

Jamaicans (& even West Africans),k for instance, are some of the biggest consumers in the world of the dangerous, often carcinogenic, skin bleaches (most of which have been banned in most nations).

In Jamaica -- bleaching one's skin is called 'brownin' -- and in some areas, it's (sadly) so socially-accepted, there isn't even a stigma attached to it (despite the damage it, often permanently, causes to one's skin).

[chsn09]

Also the AAs settled in DR came in the 1820s and it was between 6,000 to 10,000 that had settled in SAMANA PROVINCE at the time. A small number settled in Puerto Plata and surrounding areas.

[APGifts]

Even if there were a tiny minority of people from the CONTINENTAL U.S. who had been members of the African-American (AA) Ethnic grouping at one time -- their descendants are Dominicans -- not AAs.

The AAs that you referred to -- if they left in the 1820's would NOT have been in the U.S. up until the end of it's antebellum-era (which was in 1865) -- thus, they are NOT actual AAs (& their descendants in the DR are NOT part of the CONTINENTAL U.S.)

[chsn09]

4- Last but not least are those that are illegal Haitian immigrants as well as legal ones and ones who are of Haitian descent but have presence in DR for many centuries but maintain distinctly Haitian traditions and identity in addtion to being Dominican.

[APGifts]

@chsn09

The rabidly-racist 'Rafael Trujillo'

caused a lot of racial problems

for the people of both nations

found on that shared island.

[BlueHerself]

Damn I miss DR

[masterdelrap]

dominicans are mixed they are not black thats what people dont understand. in this video they are showing haitians in the country. we also have haitians in dominican republic working for us. we have haitians living in the country side. those are not dominicans

[masterdelrap]

@chsn09 MOTHER FUKER THEY DOMINICAN DID U LISTEN TO THE MUSIC AND THE VIDEO

[chsn09]

@masterdelrap YOU SAID "dominicans are mixed they are not black thats what people dont understand. in this video they are showing haitians in the country. we also have haitians in dominican republic working for us. we have haitians living in the country side. those are not dominicans"

So are you now contradicting yourself. Now you are saying that these ppl are dominicans but then before you were saying these ppl are Haitians and not Dominican because they are darker skinned! Explain?

[SoftWhisperss]

@chsn09

Because umm he/she KNOWS each individual personally...that's how! Lol. I bet he/she have seen very dark skinned Dominicans hanging out with AAs in the USA and must have thought they were AAs because shoot of course not there is no such thing as a very dark skinned Dominican..unheard of!! ::sarcasm::

[chsn09]

@SoftWhisperss I know right? Seriously. I hate ignorance lol. Like I don't know why they get angry for being called what they look like. I mean duh yes they are mixed but again just common sense and history shows the truth. Dominicans don't have to identify as black. No one should force them.

But I do have a problem if Domincans or any other group of ppl will dictate and call other ppl black and "one drop" ppl or instill the same behavior on others that they don't want inflicted on them

[chsn09]

@SoftWhisperss Yes I know exactly ther are absolutely no black or dark skinned dominicans! all of em are from haiti or other places. all have light skin and straight hair and an occasional curly hair! yeah lets see how many ppl like that fool and many others believe the nonsense I just wrote up on here lol :sarcasm: lmao smfh! i bet he went around to every single person and knows them throughout the country ROTFL! when will the madness cease

[wilmarydc]

ORGULLO RD

[kentarikhapri]

In 1824, at least 6,000 African-Americans who were freed from slavery migrated from the United States and founded " Samana ", Dominican Republic. Today, it is estimated that 80% of the population in Samana is of African-American descent.

Google it.

[kentarikhapri]

Dominicans are descendants of African Americans,in a community on a pristine bay in the northeastern coast of the Dominican Republic. Called " Samana"

ancestors came from the United States 182 years ago, twenty years before the founding of the Dominican Republic in 1844; they were among over 6,000 freed African American slaves who settled in Samaná between 1824 and 1825

[chsn09]

@kentarikhapri You are right! African Americans from the USA came to DR as apart of the same initiative that sent black slaves back to African countries and from that some ended up in DR in the 1820s and they settled in Puerto Plata but eventually most stayed and remained in the province of Samana! To this day Americanos as they are called, remain a culture that is distinct from that of the rest of all other Dominicans! Great comment! At least someone is well educated!

[APGifts]

@chsn09

This small group does NOT COUNT as African-American (AA) BECAUSE they were NOT in the U.S. 'continually-up-until-the-end-­of-the-antebellum-era'.

To count as AA, one must meet the requirements of ...

'Timing' (up to end-of-antebellum-era);

'Location' (continental U.S.);

'Historical experience' (chattel-slavery system) &

'Lineage' (descendants of the survivors of those who were targeted).

To call these Dominicans AA is like calling Liberians AA & neither meet ALL the "requirements".

[chsn09]

@APGifts Um please chill! Nothing I said was spreading lies. All I was trying to say is that there is an AA diaspora/community in the DR that remains in SAMANA PROVINCE of DR.

[APGifts]

@chsn09

You're right-- I'm probably overreacting.

It's just that in The States EVERYBODY tends to get mushed into one group all that time -- & that group is usually the African Americans (AAs) -- which is unfortunate for them, because then they have to carry-the-statistics for everyone.

The "AA-diaspora" Dominicans to whom you are referring are still LATINOS (not AAs) -- just as "AA-diaspora Liberians" are AFRICANS (not AAs).

All of these great groups are unique (& sorry for getting preachy)

[chsn09]

@APGifts It's okay. YOU went into ranting and raving rampage w/ information that you have told me and others plenty of times. There were/are a lot of ignorant folks trying to blame the Afrodescendant presence on ppl from other nations and immigrants which is ultimately pathetic and racist.

[APGifts]

@chsn09

You are right -- in my hyper-caffeinated state -- I did go on ranting & raving about the topic.

For me one of my pet peeves in life is seeing people mushed together rather than being properly categorized.

Sorry again for going on a tangent about the categories of all these groups.

[chsn09]

@APGifts Look up the Samana Americans and you will see that the AA diaspora/community in DR still maintains their AA identity in addition to assimiliating the Hispanic/Latino/Caribbean culture of Dominican Republic, respectively =-]

[APGifts]

@chsn09

But - regardless of their "identification" -- they are LATINO.

African-American (AA), requires the following:

--'Timing' (up to end-of-antebellum-era);

--'Location' (continental U.S.);

--'Historical experience' (chattel-slavery system) &

--'Lineage' (descendants of the survivors of those who were targeted).

The Samana were NOT on the CONTINENTAL U.S. until-the-demise-of-the-antebe­llum-era.

Thus, just as Liberians are now AFRICANS -- the Samana are now LATINOS.

[SoftWhisperss]

@kentarikhapri

Dominicans are descendants of mostly Africans not Africans Americans. Stop spreading lies.

[chsn09]

@SoftWhisperss kentarikhapri is right. Re read his comment. He is talking about the descendants of African Americans that live in Samana and some that live in Puerto Plata. African Americans and freedmen and slaves were forced to go to Dominican Republic in 1820s because the USA was trying to rid the USA of having blacks so they sent them back to Africa and some ended up in DR. But most of Dominican African ancestry comes from African slaves(bozales) and the first earlest slaves were Ladinos

[SoftWhisperss]

@chsn09

Okay that might be fine and dandy, I will do my OWN research on that tidbit, that a number of AAs went to Santo Domingo but to make the GENERAL statement that Dominicans are descendants of African Americans is BULLSHIT. If what he said is true, than SOME of them might have roots in the USA CERTAINLY not all.

[chsn09]

@SoftWhisperss LMFAO. Chill mija, I never said ALL. Yes to say all would be BULLSHIT. If you re read my comment you will see that I was saying some. It is only in the thousands. The majority of Dominicans African heritage comes from African slaves from the colonial period, then Haitians,and then blacks from the other west indian nations.

[chsn09]

@SoftWhisperss There are 4 types of Afrodescendants in DR

1- Afro Hispanic Colonial Dominican blacks

2- Descendants of AAs that settled in mainly Samana Province

3- Cocolos/Guloyas descendants of Anglo West Indian indentured servants

[APGifts]

@SoftWhisperss

EXACTY!

AA does NOT mean "Black Race" or even "of Black descent"

The AAs are an ETHNIC GROUP that CONSISTS *ONLY* OF:

"The 'Descendants-Of-The-Survivors' Of the Targets of the antebellum-era continental U.S. chattel-slavery system".

The Dominican Republic is NOT a part of the CONTINENTAL U.S.

It's possible to be full-AA & Mixed Race & full-Dominican & Mixed-Race.

AAs are an ETHNIC group made of MANY "races" & Dominicans are Latino.

Two different (& yet admirable) groups.

[BlueHerself]

@APGifts Someone who was born in the US (or America - w/e) from African parents is an African American, no matter what you say.

[APGifts]

@BlueHerself

This is NOT an issue of "what 'I' say" (as 'I' am not the one who created the term).

If you have a problem with the definition, then 'my' suggestion is that you take it up with the academic and social institutions who are credited with having invented the term in the 1920's.

To clump everyone under a term designed for one specific & unique Ethnic group is, in 'my' opinion, as racially, culturally, ethnically-insensitive as .... referring to all Asian people as being Chinese. =D

[BlueHerself]

@APGifts Merriam-Webster:

Definition of AFRICAN-AMERICAN

: an American of African and especially of black African descent

— African–American adjective

First Known Use of AFRICAN-AMERICAN

1855

[APGifts]

@BlueHerself

My advise was for you to "take it up with the academic and social institutions who are "credited" with having invented the term in the 1920's" -- not to take it up with the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

[BlueHerself]

@APGifts I don't care what your advice is or was. My dictionary is telling me otherwise and that's the term *I* use.

[APGifts]

@BlueHerself

And it's 'your' right to do so.

However, be advised that many people in the world of academia will not be in agreement with or adhere to the same choice that you have made on this matter. =D

[APGifts]

Let's also NOT forget that the "first known use" of that (or any other) term is *not* the same thing as the "definition" of the term.

[BlueHerself]

@BlueHerself understanding**

[doctorzs]

oye eso que escribio

siaralove56 fue el grito de independencia de un dominicano. eso era como estilo balaguer el cono que el dijo.

[ThePrincesa04]

mi pais si es lindo lo amo y lo hecho mucho el falta sobre todo ese clima tan bueno! viva la rep dominicana muah!!!!!!

[suckmadickkk]

que bonito se ve mi pais tan lindo ♥

[siaralove56]

ME KIERO IR PARA MI PAIZ CONOOOOO

[Indiodelagua]

''Nazca'' con ''z'', ''Outstanding'' fuera de lo común o excepcional en Español.

Boricua, aprende a escribir en tu lengua, así tu pueblo y tu cultura se veran fortalecidos...si te incomoda, pues escribe enteramente en Inglés, pero eso sí, sin faltas ortográficas, pues deja mucho que desear. Saludos!

[nette2219]

mi bello samana

[ycstsosa]

habran muchos morenos,pero es uno de los paise donde hay mujeres con el mejor cuerpo.y somos lo k mejor cojemos.el honbre o mujer que pruebe un dominicano,no prueba otra rasa.somos los mas caliente.

[n9yne]

Ya whatever. ycstsosa. Yo conoci algunas chicas dominicanas k no son "los mas caliente".

[verdugozky]

Fijate yo me tire una Dominicanita prieta aqui en PR y fue algo normal nada del otro mundo fue mi primera experiencia y la unica con una negrita tenia un cuerpo terrible pero era bastante feita de cara no la encontre algo outstanding sino algo dentro de lo que es normal, digo aunque es relativo eso de que si caliente si es negro o blanco o nacionalidad eso esta en la personalidad de cada cual no importa el pais donde nasca.

[nette2219]

DIOS

[aamablu]

proud to black

[Dirtymoney8]

Look at Momma Africa in their Faces, Skin tone and physical features. Im proud to be a Black Man of African decent and It brings a smile to my face to see all my brothers and sisters looking so beautiful and happy. It goes to show that eventhough they stole us from Africa split us up and made us slaves we still survived and will continue to do so wherever we are placed!!!! We are a strong people and we aint goin nowhere. Black people stand up and be proud!!!!1

[macadamien11]

dumb-inicans

[JoHnCARLOSSS]

That my friend, must of been the gayest thing anyone cudd've put in this Comment section.

(:

[RDpapichulo]

It's all well and good to be african, but that is dominican republic, and those faces you see is a combination of many different races and cultures, not just African. Sorry!

that's the Dominican face, lol, and those are just the ugly people.

[pickaboo18]

dominicans are mixed wit blk some blker than othere..my point is there black hispanics

[pickaboo18]

They are called blk hispanics there is a such thing...i didnt just make that up...just like theres white hispanics

[RDpapichulo]

That makes you mixed or mulato. You only see yourselves as black because you have been brain washed by the one drop rule. Examples of mulatos in America are beyoncey barack obama hally berry

[mrbilingual]

Not really! The world is not the DR. Beyonce, Barack, and Haley look dark compared to blacks in the South where I am from. No one wants to be light, for we do not have DR issues. My dad was light and some of my family, but no one cares. Mulato is a slave word. Besides, I do not know of many true African Americans (not island blacks) that are not mixed with something. Learn to love Africa. Learn to confront that foolishness in the DR. I know about the clubs with ONLY light skinned folk.

[chsn09]

@mrbilingual What? Beyonce, Barack Obama, and Halley Barey are all mulattoes? They are light skinned! Not dark!

[Orlandito231]

Antony Santos-Donde estera

[xC3Cix]

WHAT SONG IS THIS?

[DRKBNBABE85]

Ave maria los hitianos aqui tan botao..lol..

[ohoho19]

and the same for filipinos and puerto ricans etc..... know the history first then speak

[ohoho19]

piont blank to all u lil kids it doesnt matter wat color skin you are if you live on D.R. u could be the whtiest of whites wich i doubt i never seen this or you could be the blackest of blacks check the history of my ppl and are country are island then use your computer to show us how smart you are. by sum of your standards i im to dark to be well fux u dominican for life

Dios Patria libertad Republica Dominica

[alnvida]

The atmosphere reminds me of the provincias in Filipinas.. getting a lil homesick.. ;(

[bountyyouth]

but yeah bro i've gotta visit the philippines one day..my girlfriend would kill me if i didnt.

[alnvida]

They are Dominicanos Period... doesn't matter what they look like... I'm sure they are proud to be Dominicanos, it's as simple as that!! In the Philippines there are different features, mestizos, negritos, chinitos... but they are just simply Filipino.. some even look white, hehe.. Nothing to really argue about.. People of all races and ethnicity have their own sense of Beauty in them.. ;)

[chsn09]

@alnvida Thank you! Exactly they are Dominicanos period

[proudfilipina23]

i am part chinese too bountyyouth

[proudfilipina23]

i did read about them and they have african ancestry.bountyyouth you shut up.

[andreamc6]

we speak spanish and no other languague ok

[jriggs85]

So it shouldn't surprise you to see alot of black people in DR, thats actually common. They were the main population after the Tainos got murdered. In fact, DR indeed DOES have a very large Mixed AND White population (in places such as 'Santiago'), partly due to the heavy influence of European immigration to the country during the Trujillo era around the 1930's or so.

[drbabe85]

yea theres @ lot black people..but thats bcuz haiti is right there...but we got @ lot white people too so..even overhere we got black people,white people and brown people we got every race...we got people from everywhere..and we got @ lot of filipinos in united states so u know..that they look like crap..so u know..

[jriggs85]

what?? there aren't alot of black people just 'cuz Haiti and DR share ONE island. What you meant to say was that there are black people (who are no doubt 100% Dominican) because there is African ancestry in DR as well as in Haiti. You can't forget that the Spanish imported alot of African slaves to the island of Hispaniola (thename of the island that Haiti and DR share.)

[chsn09]

@drbabe85 You are stupid and epic fail!

[blodz24]

my back yard looks like their house!

[poohlu]

momma africa look at us everywhere ,dont even acknowledge eachother , but ahh the challlenge what must be done WILL be done

[tariqziyad]

you dont have a pineald gland because you lack melanin, that means you dont have a soul

[proudfilipina23]

they are black who just happen to speak spanish.you can tell by looking at them.

[bountyyouth]

" they are black who just happen to speak spanish" WTFFFFF??

am i to say you're a chinese who just happen to speak tagalog? i hope you know the way the dominicano negros came to be in la dominicana can be compared to how filipinos came to be in las pinas!!

either check your history and fix your comment or dont comment at all!

[alnvida]

you crack me up with WTFFFF!!! lol I see what you're saying though.. but I couldn't stop rolling...

[bountyyouth]

lol the gurl got me bent out of shape man.. she says she read about them and am telling her i know what it really is because i am them..a DARK as night..what filipinos would call an "itim" spanish speaking dominican.. am not just some african who just so happens to speak spanish..YO SOY DOMINICANO tu lo sabes..

[karinecesari]

please can you tell me the song's name!!

i like it

it remember to me my holidays in Samana

thanks

[chakeram]

I LOVE THIS,

THANK YOU.

[nette2219]

me too