Sure Force tanked for his teammate.. the same way Cruz woulda tanked for bro Tony or Frank. Robert Hight went on to win the "Countdown"championship, a blatant copy of NASCAR tomfoolery. STAND on your own NHRA, go back to who ever wins the season race points wins the championship! Either that or try to get Tony Stewart to race Funny Cars!
Great comment whizz I have seen John force year in and year out he has a multimillion dollar operation and he did what he did and thats why he is a 15 time funny car champion
You know what I think. You should never let yourself get in that spot to start with. Its a team sport and if I lose so the team can win. That is what I will do cause I get paid to win! It just happens Force was in control and not the other team this time.
So stop saying it was rigged or he took a dive. You don't like it, do better the next time so you control your own out come. Not rely on someone else for you to win!
I find it comical that this was ever an issue. If Cruz would've taken care of business and won a few more rounds than RH instead of putting his fate in someone else's hands he wouldn't have been on the outside. He wouldn't have been much of a factor anyway. If I recall, he wasn't going rounds during the countdown races anyway. He never did get his car issues fixed. Hight, on the other hand, was on fire and deserved the championship
I like JFR and the Pedregon brothers, but what Cruz said was wrong. If you want to compete with the multi car teams you've got to creat your own multi car team and put some good drivers in them. When you have multi car teams you're gonna do what ever it takes to get your team into the countdown. I have family that compete in the oval and figure 8 racing and they have at least two to three cars and they will do whatever it takes to get them in. There is manipulation in any motorsport.
If you don't like the fact that Team Force can use there cars to manipulate the out come of a race. Then those other teams need to build more cars and put drivers in them. The more cars you have the chace of manipulating the out come. An you a btter chace of winning. Winning is what it is all about, at any cost. This isn't the boy scouts. It's big time auto racing and you have better win.
Its business, if you dont like it pedregon try making the top 10 by more then by the skin of your teeth. Its about elimination if a driver wants to give up a race to take someone out of competition then thats his call, you cant make money by paving the way for your competitor
That move to the wall was pretty blatant, in that it was a nice, smooth slide to the right, not a violent hook and turn. The fact that Force kept motoring afterward, fishtailing down the track ? Well, as it was said: He's a showman. Not cool, but money and sponsors and such have really helped/screwed up ALL sports. Peace:-)
Cry more all you bunch of idiots. Its called TEAMWORK!!! I dont know whether he laid down or not, he probably did.....GOOD FOR HIM!!! Im not even a John Force fan but if Im the owner of a 4 car race team and I have a car one round away from the "playoffs" and he's racing me?? You better fuckin believe im giving him the round. Grow up crybabies who cry "cheater"
@TheGuru5575 Bottom line is its against the RULES!!I know when i go to an NHRA event i pay money to see a RACE...Not to see someone clinch the 10 spot that doesnt deserve it..Robert Hight did not deserve the 2009 championship..enough said..
I think Mike Dunn was out of line. Force could have had the clutch set up to just smoke the tires, and that would have been it. So the assertion that Force drove it out of the groove intentionally is slanderous.
I guess ESPN and NHRA feel that have ridden Force's popularity as far as they need to. Now they want to throw him under the bus for some ratings-generating controversy.
That race has to be the biggest joke I've seen. Everyone knew the out come before the race. NHRA and John Force both should be ashamed, I've lost all repect for both. Bottom line it comes down to money. John clearly gave that race away!!!!!!!!!!
@kunghigh90 I dont hate John and never said I hated him just lost respect for what he did in that race it was a joke and drag racing is a great sport and I'll race as long as I can
@572cuda he only did it for the sponsors i bet its not easy having a multi car team you gotta make everyone happy including the fans... right on keep racing, god bless u i hope u enjoy what u do...
This countdown to 1 is a bunch of crap.The reason NHRA feels the need to artificially drum up "excitement" for the so-called "fans" of the sport is one word-money.Racing is not meant to be a countdown or playoff. Every track, every race is different. Kalitta should have and would have won 2 years ago, as would have Wilkerson last year if not for this nonsense. And no more 1/4 mile racing?Screw that, I'm going to more IHRA events. IF IHRA can bring back the FC classes. Bad times for drag racing.
you know we can all think what we want to about what happened on the force hight run but when you have all those sponsors to make happy what would you do if john wanted to throw the race why wouldnt he just leave on robert and just click it off early i do not know if nhra can monitor that aspect of the run I am truly amased at the reaction from the pedregon brothers
It,s a pity, when it,s so clear Force threw the race,real champion don,t need to do that.Tony is a Real Champion,Cool,Calm,and Collective!!!4 Sure he,ll be the champion this year and does with One car!!!
Seen it coming from a mile away!!!! The NHRA must be blind as bats not to see what happened.Cant prove nothing by gathering data.NHRA kisses John Forces ass because there scared they will piss him off.Its getting boring hearing all the stories about him and his family.who really gives a crap.Its time to retire and go fishing or something.Way to go Tony for speaking your mind and sticking up for what you believe.Mike called it right it truly "stinks".
@7secdragster your retarded.. john force is still good.. still winning.. its not like pro football. its driving a car.. hes the best.. no need... and im not disagreeing about nhra kissing his ass.. hes the face of it
@jamesmanortiz you make me laugh just wait til his castrol sponsorship goes away with the bp oil disaster.the count down to one will fix his ass unless he runs his family and they can take a dive for the old man so go hop in your pro street gremlin go amuse someone who gives a crap about it.
@jamesmanortiz you still make me laugh did my comment offend you did it rub you the wrong way.they make medications for these types of problems.i know buisness is kinda slow at the kwiky mart but things will get better for you.
@7secdragster actually no im a professional jazz guitarist doing what i love most playing shows, recording, writing music and making a living off it. while your sitting on your computer in your wife beater with your cheeto fingers, get off your daughters laptop and get a life, good day.
@jamesmanortiz With that being said until you strap your ass in a top dragster every weekend "doing what i love"keep strummin yer geetar and i will keep racing and keep making a very good living with my own buisness.This is the most work i have done all day and i still made a pile of money.I love this place.you still make me laugh have a wonderful day i know i did
@7secdragster i did to im not trying to argue my friend, and BTW never use the term "strummin" and "geetar" im not an acoustic player, and plus i cant strap myself into a dragster because i have very bad vision if i didnt i would love to race as a hobby, BTW is it really cool and how do people get to be professional
@jamesmanortiz I have raced since the late eighties NHRA his changed so much.All im saying is that they need to spotlite some of the underfunded racers in the game.Just like us the sportsman ranks they could care less about us.for john to have a light like that haze the tires and get out of the groove that far it really looked suspect.Hes 1 in points but just like last year that means nothing in the countdown.several friends of mine are prof jazz musicians i have respect for what they do.
well john got outa the groove no shit hight dummed up no shit cruz hes pissed at himself for not steppin up tony well he knows being in the force stable for eight years dunn hes just a paid annoucer with a x-racer opinion nhra well they got a problem with multiple cars in the same class by single owner results will you figure it out its there lively hood they owe there sponsers to get there cars in the countdown as far as fighting each other thats been going on forever just ask jim dunn
what makes this different from a couple years ago when tony shumacher won the champoinship race and took the title away from kalitta. If you think back tony shumachers team mate at the time melanie troxell let off at half track to let him take the win, why does it matter, it is a smart decision from a team stand point why does it matter what he did. This is why John has 14 champoinships and no else comes close in all funny car at the moment or ever!
Well As big of a fan I am of John Force and the whole team....I think he shoulda given Robert a heads up race. Because I think Robert had a better car this weekend.
But come on John your an awesome guy but give Robert a heads up race....it woulda been awesome
sadly I believe Tony Ped. John is a much better driver than he showed today! John doesnt sleep at the tree, drive it to the wall then smoke the tires! I still like force but he threw the race.
lets go back to the old "traditional" points system instead of following nascar!!!! This new system sucks outloud!!!!!
rcslots 2 months ago
He may have done lots for the sport but cheating is still unacceptable in any form of sport,
toneoffuel 3 months ago
Sure Force tanked for his teammate.. the same way Cruz woulda tanked for bro Tony or Frank. Robert Hight went on to win the "Countdown"championship, a blatant copy of NASCAR tomfoolery. STAND on your own NHRA, go back to who ever wins the season race points wins the championship! Either that or try to get Tony Stewart to race Funny Cars!
maitrejim 4 months ago
NO MATTER WHAT JOHN DOES,,,HE HAS DONE WAAAYYY TO MUCH FOR THIS SPORT TO BE TREATED WITH DISRESPECT
herbiedrumr369 4 months ago
Great comment whizz I have seen John force year in and year out he has a multimillion dollar operation and he did what he did and thats why he is a 15 time funny car champion
eddieman223 5 months ago
You know what I think. You should never let yourself get in that spot to start with. Its a team sport and if I lose so the team can win. That is what I will do cause I get paid to win! It just happens Force was in control and not the other team this time.
So stop saying it was rigged or he took a dive. You don't like it, do better the next time so you control your own out come. Not rely on someone else for you to win!
WizzRacing 6 months ago
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat a bunch of bullshit. Force just turned the wheel and pulled over for height.
geterdonein01 6 months ago
John Force does cheat. I think he is a jerk. He runs his big mouth all the time and he is just this side of being dummber then a rock.
FrankStrongWolf 9 months ago
I hate the Force racing team.
BigJonBone 10 months ago
I find it comical that this was ever an issue. If Cruz would've taken care of business and won a few more rounds than RH instead of putting his fate in someone else's hands he wouldn't have been on the outside. He wouldn't have been much of a factor anyway. If I recall, he wasn't going rounds during the countdown races anyway. He never did get his car issues fixed. Hight, on the other hand, was on fire and deserved the championship
amtran8454 1 year ago
US commentators are hilarious-Uk motorsport pundits have become a little boring unfortunately :/
tweakiepop 1 year ago
U.s. commentators are hilarious-Uk motorsport have become a little boring unfortunately :/
tweakiepop 1 year ago
I like JFR and the Pedregon brothers, but what Cruz said was wrong. If you want to compete with the multi car teams you've got to creat your own multi car team and put some good drivers in them. When you have multi car teams you're gonna do what ever it takes to get your team into the countdown. I have family that compete in the oval and figure 8 racing and they have at least two to three cars and they will do whatever it takes to get them in. There is manipulation in any motorsport.
DragRaceAngel4Life 1 year ago
If you don't like the fact that Team Force can use there cars to manipulate the out come of a race. Then those other teams need to build more cars and put drivers in them. The more cars you have the chace of manipulating the out come. An you a btter chace of winning. Winning is what it is all about, at any cost. This isn't the boy scouts. It's big time auto racing and you have better win.
dirtymopossie 1 year ago
Its business, if you dont like it pedregon try making the top 10 by more then by the skin of your teeth. Its about elimination if a driver wants to give up a race to take someone out of competition then thats his call, you cant make money by paving the way for your competitor
BowHunterAz08 1 year ago
That move to the wall was pretty blatant, in that it was a nice, smooth slide to the right, not a violent hook and turn. The fact that Force kept motoring afterward, fishtailing down the track ? Well, as it was said: He's a showman. Not cool, but money and sponsors and such have really helped/screwed up ALL sports. Peace:-)
binnyman 1 year ago
@TheGuru5575- Teamwork??? I don't think Ashley would agree with you.John's game of chess took the championship away from her
whipit4me 2 years ago
hight wins! This round and the championship !
I love JFR, though I'd still like to see a "playoff style" shootout for the #10 spot
If/during this "playoff"
:two team cars meet in any round, the car/driver that has more regular season points is the automatic winner.
alan1320x 2 years ago
Cry more all you bunch of idiots. Its called TEAMWORK!!! I dont know whether he laid down or not, he probably did.....GOOD FOR HIM!!! Im not even a John Force fan but if Im the owner of a 4 car race team and I have a car one round away from the "playoffs" and he's racing me?? You better fuckin believe im giving him the round. Grow up crybabies who cry "cheater"
TheGuru5575 2 years ago
@TheGuru5575 Bottom line is its against the RULES!!I know when i go to an NHRA event i pay money to see a RACE...Not to see someone clinch the 10 spot that doesnt deserve it..Robert Hight did not deserve the 2009 championship..enough said..
adoblayeva 1 year ago
I left the NHRA because of the bullshit.
I'm having a great time behind the wheel of a Super Mod these days, way more exciting.
Mostlyfun 2 years ago
@Mostlyfun
i think you got tired of the funny cars and top fuel dragsters as they are getting old, right?
Tiamat583 1 year ago
John has lost my respect. Cheaters are losers!
IamHeidiHo 2 years ago
I think Mike Dunn was out of line. Force could have had the clutch set up to just smoke the tires, and that would have been it. So the assertion that Force drove it out of the groove intentionally is slanderous.
I guess ESPN and NHRA feel that have ridden Force's popularity as far as they need to. Now they want to throw him under the bus for some ratings-generating controversy.
Thaddeusd1958 2 years ago
That race has to be the biggest joke I've seen. Everyone knew the out come before the race. NHRA and John Force both should be ashamed, I've lost all repect for both. Bottom line it comes down to money. John clearly gave that race away!!!!!!!!!!
572cuda 2 years ago 2
@572cuda
i feel pretty sorry for you losing interest on such a huge organization.
Tiamat583 1 year ago
@572cuda dont hate the 15x champ and the greatest sport on earth!!
kunghigh90 1 year ago
@kunghigh90 I dont hate John and never said I hated him just lost respect for what he did in that race it was a joke and drag racing is a great sport and I'll race as long as I can
572cuda 1 year ago
@572cuda he only did it for the sponsors i bet its not easy having a multi car team you gotta make everyone happy including the fans... right on keep racing, god bless u i hope u enjoy what u do...
kunghigh90 1 year ago
This countdown to 1 is a bunch of crap.The reason NHRA feels the need to artificially drum up "excitement" for the so-called "fans" of the sport is one word-money.Racing is not meant to be a countdown or playoff. Every track, every race is different. Kalitta should have and would have won 2 years ago, as would have Wilkerson last year if not for this nonsense. And no more 1/4 mile racing?Screw that, I'm going to more IHRA events. IF IHRA can bring back the FC classes. Bad times for drag racing.
spikedart 2 years ago
you know we can all think what we want to about what happened on the force hight run but when you have all those sponsors to make happy what would you do if john wanted to throw the race why wouldnt he just leave on robert and just click it off early i do not know if nhra can monitor that aspect of the run I am truly amased at the reaction from the pedregon brothers
bigpetesbee 2 years ago
It,s a pity, when it,s so clear Force threw the race,real champion don,t need to do that.Tony is a Real Champion,Cool,Calm,and Collective!!!4 Sure he,ll be the champion this year and does with One car!!!
drummer1834 2 years ago
Cool, calm, and WHAT???? Did you by chance mean...collected?
spikedart 2 years ago
Seen it coming from a mile away!!!! The NHRA must be blind as bats not to see what happened.Cant prove nothing by gathering data.NHRA kisses John Forces ass because there scared they will piss him off.Its getting boring hearing all the stories about him and his family.who really gives a crap.Its time to retire and go fishing or something.Way to go Tony for speaking your mind and sticking up for what you believe.Mike called it right it truly "stinks".
7secdragster 2 years ago 2
@7secdragster your retarded.. john force is still good.. still winning.. its not like pro football. its driving a car.. hes the best.. no need... and im not disagreeing about nhra kissing his ass.. hes the face of it
dematt321 1 year ago
@dematt321 thanks for the compliment that puts me ahead of you on the short bus.
7secdragster 1 year ago
@7secdragster your are stupid.. im pretty sure someone is gonna sponsor the greatest nhra driver ever..
dematt321 1 year ago
@dematt321 stupid still puts me 2 levels higher than what you are
7secdragster 1 year ago
@7secdragster hes in the points lead as of right now, so talk your shit. try racing these cars.
jamesmanortiz 1 year ago
@jamesmanortiz you make me laugh just wait til his castrol sponsorship goes away with the bp oil disaster.the count down to one will fix his ass unless he runs his family and they can take a dive for the old man so go hop in your pro street gremlin go amuse someone who gives a crap about it.
7secdragster 1 year ago
@7secdragster get a life no matter what you say you sound like a dumbass
jamesmanortiz 1 year ago
@jamesmanortiz you still make me laugh did my comment offend you did it rub you the wrong way.they make medications for these types of problems.i know buisness is kinda slow at the kwiky mart but things will get better for you.
7secdragster 1 year ago
@7secdragster actually no im a professional jazz guitarist doing what i love most playing shows, recording, writing music and making a living off it. while your sitting on your computer in your wife beater with your cheeto fingers, get off your daughters laptop and get a life, good day.
jamesmanortiz 1 year ago
@jamesmanortiz With that being said until you strap your ass in a top dragster every weekend "doing what i love"keep strummin yer geetar and i will keep racing and keep making a very good living with my own buisness.This is the most work i have done all day and i still made a pile of money.I love this place.you still make me laugh have a wonderful day i know i did
7secdragster 1 year ago
@7secdragster i did to im not trying to argue my friend, and BTW never use the term "strummin" and "geetar" im not an acoustic player, and plus i cant strap myself into a dragster because i have very bad vision if i didnt i would love to race as a hobby, BTW is it really cool and how do people get to be professional
jamesmanortiz 1 year ago
@jamesmanortiz I have raced since the late eighties NHRA his changed so much.All im saying is that they need to spotlite some of the underfunded racers in the game.Just like us the sportsman ranks they could care less about us.for john to have a light like that haze the tires and get out of the groove that far it really looked suspect.Hes 1 in points but just like last year that means nothing in the countdown.several friends of mine are prof jazz musicians i have respect for what they do.
7secdragster 1 year ago
@7secdragster thats cool ya i think they should get rid off that countdown you agree
jamesmanortiz 1 year ago
force is a HOMO! what a CHEATER!
toben1970 2 years ago
What does homosexuality have to do with cheating???
SaphireDisc 2 years ago
Spectacle, not a championship sport. Traveling circus side show is more like it. Don't expect anything else from these greedy sandbaggers.
dvdfrnzwbr 2 years ago
well john got outa the groove no shit hight dummed up no shit cruz hes pissed at himself for not steppin up tony well he knows being in the force stable for eight years dunn hes just a paid annoucer with a x-racer opinion nhra well they got a problem with multiple cars in the same class by single owner results will you figure it out its there lively hood they owe there sponsers to get there cars in the countdown as far as fighting each other thats been going on forever just ask jim dunn
speedtap 2 years ago
Cruz...YOU LOSE!!!!!!
dkramz 2 years ago
what makes this different from a couple years ago when tony shumacher won the champoinship race and took the title away from kalitta. If you think back tony shumachers team mate at the time melanie troxell let off at half track to let him take the win, why does it matter, it is a smart decision from a team stand point why does it matter what he did. This is why John has 14 champoinships and no else comes close in all funny car at the moment or ever!
94venomV8 2 years ago
Well As big of a fan I am of John Force and the whole team....I think he shoulda given Robert a heads up race. Because I think Robert had a better car this weekend.
But come on John your an awesome guy but give Robert a heads up race....it woulda been awesome
3fan4eva 2 years ago
sadly I believe Tony Ped. John is a much better driver than he showed today! John doesnt sleep at the tree, drive it to the wall then smoke the tires! I still like force but he threw the race.
GodsSon10 2 years ago
@GodsSon10
heh, that hit you pretty hard, didn't it?
Tiamat583 1 year ago
i dont yea right
nhrafanomina28 2 years ago
John Force Cheats??? I don't think so!!!
racingformusic 2 years ago
i do
rockypc24 2 years ago 2