Communism never even worked in its first attempt, the name. Seriously, two men founded Communism, Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx. But the ideology came to be known as MARXism. Everyone is supposed to be equal and the first thing to be proven is that even for the communist FOUNDERS one man was more equal than the other.
@MrOsorum Fuck you. You are brainwashed by the liberal media. And don't come back with an argument saying Fox news is bad. Fox was made because every other network is liberal. Idiot.
I'd like to mention that the US was sued more times that the so-called evil empire, the USSR by the International Court of Justice. During all these times the US refused to acknowledge it while when the USSR was sued they showed up...not to mention how Stalin's millions slaughtered only 30% were political prisoners the rest were rapists/murderers/theives etc
Glenn Beck is a fear and hate mongering,paranoid,racist liar.
He was too extreme for even Fox News,and you think that by mentioning him,it will bring validity to your argument?
You have a lot to learn,you may even have potential,if you opened your eyes and realized that you were being controlled by the conservative movement,desperate for young followers.
The Median age for the Fox News viewer is 67,for a little fun fact.
@UTOPIAorBust You are wrong. I have no college under my belt. Yeah I'm 24. I get most of my education from reading lots of books. I'm very sick physically with a immunity disorder for the last 14 months and not able to even work a 40 hr job. So I started my own independent media organization that is getting quite a bit of traction and enables me to keep a roof over my head. Whenever I have energy I make a video. So before you make some stupid assumption. You should know the facts.
"i'm a young conservative" = i'm in college getting money from capitalist pigs to speak their propaganda. What he's saying is, "Give me money or fame and I'll deceive people." This is simply: more capitalism at work. This is not a series of well constructed arguments at all. This is a resume. Recognize the difference.
read "anarchy works" by peter gelderloos. free to download here:
theanarchistlibrary (dot) org/HTML/Peter_Gelderloos__Anarchy_Works (dot) html
stalinism and every eurocommunism is a straw person argument if you wanted to actually argue against anticapitalism -- they are bourgeois reinventions of capitalism and social control. GET A BETTER REVOLUTIONARY EDUCATION, LEARN TO LIVE FREE
In a capitalistic society the earners are the wealthy and in a communist state, the politcal class are the ones that live in wealth. Communist don't care about gays, race, personal rights, religion or even global warming. Do you think that China cares about the environment? So capitalism with all it problems is far better than whatever is in second place.
cont: and let the slavering Beast of Right-wing Christian Connedservatism run slobbering through the halls of power, snarling and yapping and shitting on the Constitution.
You got impregnated by Faux news rabid rants:Raygun was the most over-rated President of all time. He aided and abetted terrorists, dealt freely with foreign enemies of America, was involved in drugs, guns and money laundering. He heralded the decline of America, as well as allowing the NeoCons to heist the seat of power for their insane crusades, cont...
Your "rap" sucks as much as your lack of education and intelligence. If you are truly interested in facts - I can assist your dumbass in finding history - and ps - Christ was a socialist by your definition
A kid wearing a Reagan Shirt, WTF Reagan is the ASSHOLE that handed the country over to the Corporations, And distributed the Wealth, That fucking Kid has in Backwards
We've had 30 years of tax cuts, ramped up really bad from 2001-2009. We've have 35+ years of deregulation. The rich are making more money than ever, the middle class is losing ground faster than ever. How come it isn't working? When is it going to trickle down?
@KataVideo I believe Lenin was a visionary when he wrote:Finance capital, concentrated in a few hands and exercising a virtual monopoly, exacts enormous and ever-increasing profits from the floating of companies, issue of stock, state loans, etc., strengthens the domination of the financial oligarchy and levies tribute upon the whole of society for the benefit of monopolists.”
V. I. Lenin “Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism”
@LukasFyreFury yes, President Clinton raised taxes while presiding over the huge economic expansion and job growth, and getting more people off of welfare. Thanks for proving my point.
What's with this chick in the red shirt? How can she be a "Reagan Conservative" when Reagan legalized Abortion in California and raised taxes a jillion times as President? Especially when it's clear she's so young she wasn't even ALIVE when Reagan was presiding over the most-corrupt administration in the nation's history.
did you make it through the video long enough to see that little annotation begging viewers to "click up for..."? yeah, i immediately clicked the THUMBS DOWN because this dudette is a friggin' "pencil neck" moron (LOL), then i clicked OFF the sound, and THEN i clicked UP both your comments.
@astraia1x Planned parenthood is nothing but an abortion scam. Universal health care bankrupted Europe. Last but not least Wisconsin is making more money in the positive than negative because of Scott Walker and no lay offs. Instead Union workers (and rightfully so) have to actually pay for a little bit of their own benefits. Try again or educate yourself. You are trying to damn this country and i will not have it!
wrong, PP from its 2008-2009 annual report and fact sheet>> contraception constituted 35% of total services, STI/STD testing and treatment constituted 34%, cancer testing and screening constituted 17%; abortion services constituted 3%.
obama will win in 2012, the rethugs have no one remotely qualified to stand a chance.
did you see the results in from a poll in may 2011 regarding scott walker's downward spiral? yeah, AWFUL. in hypothetical re-matches, walker would lose by a landslide. for the facts, watch my video >> watch?v=yh18fYkP5d0
@astraia1x That was May, this is now. What works, works plain and simple. The Liberal agenda will fail every time unless your a Global Elite that is... No Obama 2012!
@LukasFyreFury europe is far from bankrupt. in fact, the most successful health care programs are in the healthiest european nations. germany, france and the UK are a lot better off than we are. instead of emulating their successes, conservatards want to be like the balkans.
@KataVideo Perhaps they are starting to do better since we from the US bailed them out and are supporting half their armies. With a few exceptions. However, this still doesn't change the fact that they themselves wish to be more like the US. You can keep your mandated healthcare, i don't want it. Just another bill that we Americans can't afford. Just another tax. Wrong, we don't wish to like the Balkans. We wish to go back to what truely made us great and set us apart from the rest of the world!
@KataVideo I've made my point... You have no idea what your talking about and can't even keep up with me... I'm done... Take your Socialist ideology elsewhere... When people reduce themselves to name calling the conversations over because they have no facts to back up the claim...
@LukasFyreFury you didn't make your point. you made mine. we could have had a lot of that stuff (still could) if we hadn't spent our money on being the world's military contractor. your balkan reference makes no sense. somehow you morons think you make valid point by repeating bumper sticker slogans or old, outdated silliness. europe is far from bankrupt. a few eurozone states are having problems. germany, france and the UK are a lot better off than we are. nothing has changed.
@KataVideo Still calling me names for no reason i see. You still have yet to prove one point that is true. You said conservatives want to be like the Balkans, not me... I made no references. Please do try to keep up and you just proved yourself wrong yet again. Obama has done more spending than any other president in US history. He wishes to be more like Europe. So you want Mexico, US and Canada to be like the European Union? Keep with the name calling, that's all your good at so far...
@KataVideo Oh and one other thing... If you see our Founding Fathers as old and outdated, maybe you should move to Europe. The constitution is what i believe in, not a path to Socialism like the EU.
@LukasFyreFury Oh and one other thing: that's just completely stupid. of course, I said absolutely no such thing. but of course it is not 1776. We've learned a few things since then. you haven't you're still wiping your ass with your hand and chewing with wooden teeth and bathing once a month. but the rest of us are pretty awesome. the best parts of this country are socialist.. social security, the VA , the interstate highway system. We have a lot of socialism in this country.
@KataVideo One the highway system was done by Eisonhower, a Republican. Social Security is failing miserably due to your Liberal spending... You can say my comments are stupid yet you can't even quote me correctly. I don't believe George Washington only bathed once a month nor wiped with his hand. That is truely stupid of you to say that. Since your reply mentioned no EU. It is safe to say that you wish for Mexico, the USA and Canada to be like the EU. You still have not made one point...
Socialism is the transition to Communism. Karl Marx did not like religion because he was persecuted as a child by many christians for being a jew. You should stop listening to a skitzo like Glenn Beck. And, you constantly mispronounce many names. And, Adam Smith, who you speak of said that everyone can become rich. He not only said that but he was in favour of philantropy. Have you ever suffered at the hands of the rich? I have. Capitalist Scum. You apparently don't care about fellow humans.
and communists. if you just look up the history of socialist organizations in the early 20th century you start to see schisms during the russian rev. when socialist organizations started splitting forming communist and socialist organizations that had rivalries do to philosophical and ecoomical differences. (this is a generalized history and in no way is supposed to be in detail). So pleas read a book on socialism/communism that is unbiased to atleast give you the differences betwee the 2 syst.
Socialism has also been a political term that already gets disgust in the mainstream media so i dont understand why us socialists would not call ourselves communists? i mean if you already ascribe to a economic philosophy that already gets you spit on in some places why not go one step further and call yourself a communist whats the worse capitalists can call you? so ot calling yourself a communist has no motive. also this is to assume also that there was never a divide between socialists...
i again would like to reiterate my critisizm with your first comment about all socialists are communists. this assumes there is no definition difference between communism and socialism when there is. communism in general wants a classless society where there are no markets. socialism however is more flexible and can allow markets (market socialism and some class inequality) the main point of socialism is to have things publicly owned. communism wants that plus alot of other things.... to be cont
11. problems with israel is not exclusive to socialists and has nothing to do with the topic.
12. because one person in egypt agrees with some socialists in wisconsin does not automatically make every egyptian protester socialist,and/or every wisconsin protester socialist. this is a logical fallacy.
9. the end of the ussr ironically proves marxism sense marx said socialism would fail if it was implemented under totalitarianism, and only in a isolated nation.
quick comment:have you read ay of marx's work?
10:the book animal farm was written by a democratic socialists (george Orwell) and was intended to be an allegoricle attack against stalin ad the Soviet uions basterdization of socialism.
6. You do not have to be a communist to be a marxist. marxism can just be the general belief that capitalism leads to wealth inequality.Marx was also a strog supporter of a direct democratic system of governance. im a marxist but i disagree with the idea of a classless system. i am however for market socialism.
Wow you obviously don't understand the difference between traditional socialism and totalitarian oligarchy. What happened in Russia was the exact opposite of what socialism preaches and that is that the working middle class should control production the exact opposite of what happened in Russia you little twit
code pink worked with egypt look it up that's what we have google for. Code Pink is code word for ANYTHING OBAMA look them up Obamacare,Immigrant,against the war, like I said anthing Obama
@behonest47 Obama against the war? Are you willfully ignorant? "Comrade" Obama was the one who has increased and intensifies the efforts the "glorious proletarian struggle" (AKA, the illegal war against Afghanistan).
The only problem with Socialism and Communism is that Human Beings are not satisfied being the same as everybody as else, there is always going to be somebody who wants to rise above the pack, and depending on how ambitious that person is they will use any means to get where they want to go. Theres an old Soviet Union saying that goes "All Comrades are Equal, some are just more equal than others."
@guruman3 "Theres an old Soviet Union saying that goes 'All Comrades are Equal, some are just more equal than others.' " Funny comment, this one. This is clearly referring to Animal Farm, which is a great book, but it is written by a man who had never visited the Soviet Union. The same man also wrote a book in which a central aspect was the intentional rewriting of history. guruman3's comment is more along the lines of that than any saying in the Soviet Union.
i was just in London when the "anarchists" took over a "workers" rally. let me tell u what i saw: a bunch of punks wearing black & skull caps & scarfs over their faces carrying Communists flags throwing rocks bricks & wutever they cud find into storefront windows causing as much damage as possible before the police unloaded in FULL RIOT GEAR. i heard explosives. they targeted the Ritz Hotel bcuz u know... success is EVIL!!
is THAT wut "progress" looks like? ...anarchy = douchebaggery
Don't knock people for wearing communist T-shirts while you wear a shirt with the face of a man who is responsible for innocent deaths in Iran and Nicaragua.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong and you don't know what socialism is. Put down the Glen Beck. Stalin is not condoned by any socialists/communists in the modern world, because it is modernly understood that he betrayed Lenin and the real communist ideology. You need to be educated before you make messages like this, because you made a fool of yourself to educated people and an idol to the fat uneducated idiots. Read Das Kapital or something so you can know more about it.
@DearCitizenTv Yeah it's a great book i agree, I don't know if you can compare it to Marx because they're both two different systems with different goals.
Here are some quotes that you might've missed in it though
"Every tax, however, is, to the person who pays it, a badge, not of slavery, but of liberty." (p.704)
"The recovery of a great foreign market will generally more than compensate the transitory inconvenience of paying dearer during a short time for some sorts of goods." (p.468)
@joekopor - read a history book and see the fact that the U.S. (capitalism) has been the most prosperous and generous country in world history. And the socialist countries have been...failures.
Read a newspaper... Wow, China is embracing capitalism too?
@joekopor - No it doesn't! Appeal to Authority Fallacy much? Come on. Einstein was a physicist, NOT an economist. Smith was an economist, which is an expert in the PROPER AREA.
If you want the ultimate slaughter of Socialism read Karl Marx and the Close of His System by Eugen Bohm-Bawerk. Also, Requiem For Marx by Yuri N. Maltzev slaughters much of the practical side of Marxism. Then, The Black Book of Communism by Harvard University Press slaughters the human equation in communism. Come on.
@Slipknotyk06 You seem to be implying that the occupation of a person is the only subject they are allowed to deal in, regardless of intellect.
I can guarantee you, GUARANTEE YOU, that Einstein was twice as smart as Smith and is more suited to understanding human relations than Smith was. The problem with economists is that they are all capitalists and care nothing for how their system effects people both socially or mentally. All they focus on is what works at making the most money. Come on.
@joekopor - Wow, your argument is laced with fallacy and confusion. You rage against Capitalism, when your problem isn't with Capitalism but Mercantilism. Smith raged against Mercantilism, and so did Marx, in his utter confusion. Then, you're indicating that all these men are concerned with is what makes the most money? That's the point! The society that makes the most money overall is the most prosperous overall. Command economies make mis-allocations of resources which impoverish real people.
@joekopor - Most economists are full on sociologists, but Einstein wasn't. Your problem is you're being misled to incorrect conclusions in the wrong economic system by a man that in his own words produced "economic scheisse" and did whatever he could to fill his time and not produce volumes 2 and 3 of Das Kapital. Then, you cite a man whose understanding of economics and depth of interpretation of Socialism was shallow at best. Einstein is a numbskull on the issue; the cro magnon of economists.
@Slipknotyk06 Those books blame the deaths to bureaucratic incompetence, which is not communism or socialism's fault.
Amartya Sen in the early 1980s estimated the excess of mortality in India over China due to the latter's "relatively equitable distribution of medical resources, under the same logic, the capitalist 'experiment' has caused more deaths than in the entire history of Communism everywhere since 1917: over 100 million deaths by 1979, and tens of millions more since, in India alone."
@JArrexte - Amartya Sen is incorrectly attributing deaths due to Mercantilism, to Capitalism. This makes your talking point a fallacious pile of drivel. Since India opened up their marketplace to globalization, Absolute poverty was cut in half, and starvation has been cut by 90%. Beforehand, India was fiercely protectionist, and had a very closed economy and because of that fact, the economy suffered. This is because of mercantile regulation, and NOT capitalism.
Sorry, did an employer provide wages for an employee where he was earning "profit" off of the surplus labor of the worker? Then that's capitalism. Plain and simple.
@JArrexte - You clearly don't understand what capitalism versus mercantilism is. Capitalism is free exchange of goods, and free exchange of labor. Mercantilism is where Government deeply regulates the exchange of goods and labor, to protect an existing favored class or caste. Capitalism is noted by upward mobility and positive-sum exchange while mercantilism is zero-sum. Mercantilism is noted by no social mobility. You're intentionally oversimplifying.
@DearCitizenTv Marx accepted the Wealth of Nations, and built upon it with Capital. Disprove the Labor Theory of Value and then you can talk about "trumping" Marx.
Marx called religion the opiate of the masses, but there were were other people around the same time as Marx, pushing for a sort of Christian-Socialist society, arguing that the Bible and the teachings of Christ merit such a system. Not arguing for or against it, but it IS a little unfair to paint all socialists as Bible-burners.
It's funny, the two things that people are often too afraid to talk about - politics and religion - just so happen to be the two most important things in our lives!
Socialism is an economic system, Communism is a political system. They go hand-in-hand, just like a free market economy goes hand-in-hand with a free society.
And just because something ahsn't happened yet, it doesn't mean it never will, or that it isn't in the works, as the subverters are hard at work right under our noses.
Goof video. Kudos for attending that rally and picking up that propaganda paper. We need more people like you who are aware of what's going on.
I seriously hope that Glenn Beck is not your only source of facts. And I hope that your unquestioning faith of Jesus doesn't carry over into an unquestioning faith of Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck is not omniscient and he often masks his opinions as "The Truth."
The "progressive version" of history? Progressives have nothing to gain by lying about the past: the movement is rooted in looking towards the future and building a better one. Conservatives are rooted in conservation of society; thus, making the past seem idyllic and romantic helps their cause more. Like heroicsteve said, you're going to deny it, and not even think about the possibility of it being correct for a second before stating it is a lie, but we're going to say it anyways.
Thanks for all the comments in support of this video. Thank you for the comments not in support of the video to. Even the really uncivil high school maturity level ones.
the progressive version of history is the correct one: note the character in the video how from his t-shirt, he idolises Reagan. Reagan wrecked the US economy - its a fact. But it is a fact denied. What is there to be done about that. Alls we can do is point out your deceptions and errors and move on.
Tea Party Sen. Rand Paul and Jon Stewart had a very relevant discussion on this subject. Both present very important points for the 2 sides of the argument; Ronald Reagan's Laissez Faire hands-off government vs. Government intervention and regulation. It's on the Daily Show's website. The US government is a balance of free market vs. government regulation.
hahahah "socialism never worked" phew thank god sweden with its extremely high standard of living and education/healthcare system that is the envy of the world just doesn't exist!
@64chris64 Socialism is the ANUS of economics. Period.
Sweden only works because there's a smaller, more manageable population that facilitates a higher GDP per capita. Plus, their own currency is backed up by OUR dollar, NOT their own country's wealth.
Spot on video. I do however want to say that as a conservative I do not suggest using the Israel angle portrayed in this video. Faith crosses all boundaries and the lefts objection with Israel is not tied into their fear/hatred of religion, though it does exist, their objection is with the modern political culture of the Israeli state. This video doesn't touch base with the left more than it does simply piss them off, which isnt a bad thing, but changing their idealism would be more productive.
@withjezos But both are shown to be obscenely anti-liberty, which renders their differences altogether arbitrary to those who righteously defend our Superior Constitution.
@QuartuvLarry Liberty infers freedom, which is very important. Socialism infers government regulation which is equally important. Without Liberty, we would be slaves. Without government regulation, companies could dump toxic waste into water supplies, food products at the market could contain poisons, people would be able to drink and drive. America is a country of balance between recognition of liberty, and recognition that everyone needs to cooperate for the greater good sometimes.
@withjezos I can appreciate the necessity for gov't, & am not opposed to a ruling body. I'm not an anarchist. But things being what they are, it's become apparent that this gov't has become too bureaucratically bloated, and is in dire need of massive cuts. Food products at the market have actually BECOME poisonous because of (or in spite of) over-regulation. Raw meats are colored red with a carcinogenic dye, dietary sweeteners are substituted with aspartame, & water is bottled with BPA chemicals
Very GOOD Justen, you hit it right on the head. This has the marxo-comms sitrred up like a hornets nest. The explotation of Jesus with this rally is positively evil and the good christian people know this to be true. Keep up the good work. God bless.
@cbpd800 You do realise that if Jesus was to pick a political stance, it would most likely be socialist. I can only assume you have never read his words in the New Testament.
@ghs1357 Like all socialist systems it collapses unto itself... socialism is not an economic system but a political one, it relies solely on capitalism to survive since wealth must (DUH) be created before it can be redistributed. After people get punished for their success and rewarded for being parasites, wealth creators either leave for more hospitable shores, or simply stop trying so damn hard... wealth diminishes, there are more takers and producers... and it all falls appart... always does.
Leftists like George Soros promote int'l capitalism for global finaceers like himself; the free flow of goods, labor and capitals according to market-needs, while promoting national socialism for the rest of us, so that we are forced to subsidize cheap labor imported from the third world at $40/hr in tax-funded welfare benefits as companies pay them $3/hr for the job we lost. When battered citizens dare voice outrage, leftist useful idiots are mobilized to scream "racism" & quell the rebellion.
Communism never even worked in its first attempt, the name. Seriously, two men founded Communism, Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx. But the ideology came to be known as MARXism. Everyone is supposed to be equal and the first thing to be proven is that even for the communist FOUNDERS one man was more equal than the other.
GermanConquistador08 1 day ago
@MrOsorum Fuck you. You are brainwashed by the liberal media. And don't come back with an argument saying Fox news is bad. Fox was made because every other network is liberal. Idiot.
futuredoc2020 2 months ago
I'd like to mention that the US was sued more times that the so-called evil empire, the USSR by the International Court of Justice. During all these times the US refused to acknowledge it while when the USSR was sued they showed up...not to mention how Stalin's millions slaughtered only 30% were political prisoners the rest were rapists/murderers/theives etc
Canadees7 3 months ago
Glenn Beck is a fear and hate mongering,paranoid,racist liar.
He was too extreme for even Fox News,and you think that by mentioning him,it will bring validity to your argument?
You have a lot to learn,you may even have potential,if you opened your eyes and realized that you were being controlled by the conservative movement,desperate for young followers.
The Median age for the Fox News viewer is 67,for a little fun fact.
Politicallyactive101 3 months ago
I bet this guy ends up as a socialist when he is older
dmb677 3 months ago
Lol you little tool you'd be good target practice for the firing squads
RedMusicSinging 3 months ago
It's funny that at no point does he find a problem with Socialism!!!
wolves4life9 4 months ago
@UTOPIAorBust You are wrong. I have no college under my belt. Yeah I'm 24. I get most of my education from reading lots of books. I'm very sick physically with a immunity disorder for the last 14 months and not able to even work a 40 hr job. So I started my own independent media organization that is getting quite a bit of traction and enables me to keep a roof over my head. Whenever I have energy I make a video. So before you make some stupid assumption. You should know the facts.
DearCitizenTv 4 months ago
"i'm a young conservative" = i'm in college getting money from capitalist pigs to speak their propaganda. What he's saying is, "Give me money or fame and I'll deceive people." This is simply: more capitalism at work. This is not a series of well constructed arguments at all. This is a resume. Recognize the difference.
UTOPIAorBUST 4 months ago
read "anarchy works" by peter gelderloos. free to download here:
theanarchistlibrary (dot) org/HTML/Peter_Gelderloos__Anarchy_Works (dot) html
stalinism and every eurocommunism is a straw person argument if you wanted to actually argue against anticapitalism -- they are bourgeois reinventions of capitalism and social control. GET A BETTER REVOLUTIONARY EDUCATION, LEARN TO LIVE FREE
UTOPIAorBUST 4 months ago
In a capitalistic society the earners are the wealthy and in a communist state, the politcal class are the ones that live in wealth. Communist don't care about gays, race, personal rights, religion or even global warming. Do you think that China cares about the environment? So capitalism with all it problems is far better than whatever is in second place.
surfstomp 4 months ago
socialism and communism are different
the amish are communists. communism is economic. socialism is political.
darris321 6 months ago
Jeeze, actually learn the difference socialism and communism before you critique it.
ccraigd89 6 months ago 2
"Glen Beck said...". Destroying all your credit with just three words.... epic!
dikkevetteshit 6 months ago
Dude, never quote Glenn Beck...seriously.
TheMusicHistorian 7 months ago
All I want to know is when you are signing up for the infantry to go fight godless commies?
Roonskii 8 months ago
@Roonskii young repugs have "other commitments". LOL
KataVideo 7 months ago
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cont: and let the slavering Beast of Right-wing Christian Connedservatism run slobbering through the halls of power, snarling and yapping and shitting on the Constitution.
classicallady 8 months ago
You got impregnated by Faux news rabid rants:Raygun was the most over-rated President of all time. He aided and abetted terrorists, dealt freely with foreign enemies of America, was involved in drugs, guns and money laundering. He heralded the decline of America, as well as allowing the NeoCons to heist the seat of power for their insane crusades, cont...
classicallady 8 months ago
The Onion.
chgosatrap 8 months ago 3
Your "rap" sucks as much as your lack of education and intelligence. If you are truly interested in facts - I can assist your dumbass in finding history - and ps - Christ was a socialist by your definition
dumbass
justonefirefly1 8 months ago 2
A kid wearing a Reagan Shirt, WTF Reagan is the ASSHOLE that handed the country over to the Corporations, And distributed the Wealth, That fucking Kid has in Backwards
gritzschke 8 months ago
We've had 30 years of tax cuts, ramped up really bad from 2001-2009. We've have 35+ years of deregulation. The rich are making more money than ever, the middle class is losing ground faster than ever. How come it isn't working? When is it going to trickle down?
KataVideo 8 months ago 15
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@KataVideo Yep... All that wealth should be trickling down at any minute now...
Pellegrino80 8 months ago 2
@Pellegrino80 I had to buy an umbrella because of all that trickling down wealth!
KataVideo 8 months ago
@KataVideo I believe Lenin was a visionary when he wrote:Finance capital, concentrated in a few hands and exercising a virtual monopoly, exacts enormous and ever-increasing profits from the floating of companies, issue of stock, state loans, etc., strengthens the domination of the financial oligarchy and levies tribute upon the whole of society for the benefit of monopolists.”
V. I. Lenin “Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism”
classicallady 8 months ago 3
@KataVideo Clinton raised taxes... Your point is false and has no value... Try again...
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury yes, President Clinton raised taxes while presiding over the huge economic expansion and job growth, and getting more people off of welfare. Thanks for proving my point.
KataVideo 7 months ago
@KataVideo
i think we may have caused LukasFyreFury to self-combust...
astraia1x 7 months ago
@astraia1x the truth is kryptonite to conservatards
KataVideo 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury also, reagan legalized abortion in California and granted amnesty to illegal aliens.
KataVideo 7 months ago
What's with this chick in the red shirt? How can she be a "Reagan Conservative" when Reagan legalized Abortion in California and raised taxes a jillion times as President? Especially when it's clear she's so young she wasn't even ALIVE when Reagan was presiding over the most-corrupt administration in the nation's history.
Most. Convictions. Ever.
KataVideo 8 months ago 8
@KataVideo
did you make it through the video long enough to see that little annotation begging viewers to "click up for..."? yeah, i immediately clicked the THUMBS DOWN because this dudette is a friggin' "pencil neck" moron (LOL), then i clicked OFF the sound, and THEN i clicked UP both your comments.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hahahahahahahahahahahaha
astraia1x 8 months ago
@KataVideo
universal health care.. NOW!
increase funding for Planned Parenthood.. NOW
recall the rethuglicans in wisconsin who are anti-working class.. NOW!
astraia1x 8 months ago 3
@astraia1x recalls are in the works in wisconsin and other states, too!
KataVideo 8 months ago
@astraia1x Planned parenthood is nothing but an abortion scam. Universal health care bankrupted Europe. Last but not least Wisconsin is making more money in the positive than negative because of Scott Walker and no lay offs. Instead Union workers (and rightfully so) have to actually pay for a little bit of their own benefits. Try again or educate yourself. You are trying to damn this country and i will not have it!
LukasFyreFury 8 months ago
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@LukasFyreFury
wrong, PP from its 2008-2009 annual report and fact sheet>> contraception constituted 35% of total services, STI/STD testing and treatment constituted 34%, cancer testing and screening constituted 17%; abortion services constituted 3%.
obama will win in 2012, the rethugs have no one remotely qualified to stand a chance.
astraia1x 8 months ago
@LukasFyreFury
did you see the results in from a poll in may 2011 regarding scott walker's downward spiral? yeah, AWFUL. in hypothetical re-matches, walker would lose by a landslide. for the facts, watch my video >> watch?v=yh18fYkP5d0
astraia1x 8 months ago
@astraia1x That was May, this is now. What works, works plain and simple. The Liberal agenda will fail every time unless your a Global Elite that is... No Obama 2012!
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury--7/1311 UW Badger Poll #32<
55% dissatisfied overall (a new high)
59% disapprove of scott walker's job as gov
nearly two-thirds feel WI gov is run for benefit of few big interests over the people
60% disapproved of State legislature's job performancend
perhaps next time you'll do a little research first.
astraia1x 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury europe is far from bankrupt. in fact, the most successful health care programs are in the healthiest european nations. germany, france and the UK are a lot better off than we are. instead of emulating their successes, conservatards want to be like the balkans.
KataVideo 7 months ago
@KataVideo Perhaps they are starting to do better since we from the US bailed them out and are supporting half their armies. With a few exceptions. However, this still doesn't change the fact that they themselves wish to be more like the US. You can keep your mandated healthcare, i don't want it. Just another bill that we Americans can't afford. Just another tax. Wrong, we don't wish to like the Balkans. We wish to go back to what truely made us great and set us apart from the rest of the world!
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury wow.. the world war 2 argument? moron.
KataVideo 7 months ago
@KataVideo I've made my point... You have no idea what your talking about and can't even keep up with me... I'm done... Take your Socialist ideology elsewhere... When people reduce themselves to name calling the conversations over because they have no facts to back up the claim...
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury you didn't make your point. you made mine. we could have had a lot of that stuff (still could) if we hadn't spent our money on being the world's military contractor. your balkan reference makes no sense. somehow you morons think you make valid point by repeating bumper sticker slogans or old, outdated silliness. europe is far from bankrupt. a few eurozone states are having problems. germany, france and the UK are a lot better off than we are. nothing has changed.
KataVideo 7 months ago
@KataVideo Still calling me names for no reason i see. You still have yet to prove one point that is true. You said conservatives want to be like the Balkans, not me... I made no references. Please do try to keep up and you just proved yourself wrong yet again. Obama has done more spending than any other president in US history. He wishes to be more like Europe. So you want Mexico, US and Canada to be like the European Union? Keep with the name calling, that's all your good at so far...
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@KataVideo Oh and one other thing... If you see our Founding Fathers as old and outdated, maybe you should move to Europe. The constitution is what i believe in, not a path to Socialism like the EU.
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury Oh and one other thing: that's just completely stupid. of course, I said absolutely no such thing. but of course it is not 1776. We've learned a few things since then. you haven't you're still wiping your ass with your hand and chewing with wooden teeth and bathing once a month. but the rest of us are pretty awesome. the best parts of this country are socialist.. social security, the VA , the interstate highway system. We have a lot of socialism in this country.
KataVideo 7 months ago
@KataVideo One the highway system was done by Eisonhower, a Republican. Social Security is failing miserably due to your Liberal spending... You can say my comments are stupid yet you can't even quote me correctly. I don't believe George Washington only bathed once a month nor wiped with his hand. That is truely stupid of you to say that. Since your reply mentioned no EU. It is safe to say that you wish for Mexico, the USA and Canada to be like the EU. You still have not made one point...
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury Social Security isn't failing, it's god for another couple of decades. plenty of time to tax the rich at a fair rate.
KataVideo 7 months ago
Socialism is the transition to Communism. Karl Marx did not like religion because he was persecuted as a child by many christians for being a jew. You should stop listening to a skitzo like Glenn Beck. And, you constantly mispronounce many names. And, Adam Smith, who you speak of said that everyone can become rich. He not only said that but he was in favour of philantropy. Have you ever suffered at the hands of the rich? I have. Capitalist Scum. You apparently don't care about fellow humans.
cadorrune 8 months ago
and communists. if you just look up the history of socialist organizations in the early 20th century you start to see schisms during the russian rev. when socialist organizations started splitting forming communist and socialist organizations that had rivalries do to philosophical and ecoomical differences. (this is a generalized history and in no way is supposed to be in detail). So pleas read a book on socialism/communism that is unbiased to atleast give you the differences betwee the 2 syst.
DrBandrew 8 months ago
Socialism has also been a political term that already gets disgust in the mainstream media so i dont understand why us socialists would not call ourselves communists? i mean if you already ascribe to a economic philosophy that already gets you spit on in some places why not go one step further and call yourself a communist whats the worse capitalists can call you? so ot calling yourself a communist has no motive. also this is to assume also that there was never a divide between socialists...
DrBandrew 8 months ago
i again would like to reiterate my critisizm with your first comment about all socialists are communists. this assumes there is no definition difference between communism and socialism when there is. communism in general wants a classless society where there are no markets. socialism however is more flexible and can allow markets (market socialism and some class inequality) the main point of socialism is to have things publicly owned. communism wants that plus alot of other things.... to be cont
DrBandrew 8 months ago
11. problems with israel is not exclusive to socialists and has nothing to do with the topic.
12. because one person in egypt agrees with some socialists in wisconsin does not automatically make every egyptian protester socialist,and/or every wisconsin protester socialist. this is a logical fallacy.
DrBandrew 8 months ago
9. the end of the ussr ironically proves marxism sense marx said socialism would fail if it was implemented under totalitarianism, and only in a isolated nation.
quick comment:have you read ay of marx's work?
10:the book animal farm was written by a democratic socialists (george Orwell) and was intended to be an allegoricle attack against stalin ad the Soviet uions basterdization of socialism.
DrBandrew 8 months ago
6. You do not have to be a communist to be a marxist. marxism can just be the general belief that capitalism leads to wealth inequality.Marx was also a strog supporter of a direct democratic system of governance. im a marxist but i disagree with the idea of a classless system. i am however for market socialism.
7. not all socialists are marxists
8.Nazis hated communists
DrBandrew 8 months ago
your argument holds no ground.
1. socialism today is already a "scary term" to describe yourself why would we be afraid to call ourselves communist
2. im a socialist but i have friends who describe themselves as communist (i disagree with them on alot of thigs
3.Stalin was a communist in a sense of the word,but he was not a marxist
4.most socialists believe in a democratic role for govt.
5 there are christian socialists
pleas get socialism right.
DrBandrew 8 months ago
You don't know what communism is. It's the slow progression of anarchy through socialism. Learn your terms. I don't like Stalin of Mao.
AquariaSpirit 8 months ago 2
Wow you obviously don't understand the difference between traditional socialism and totalitarian oligarchy. What happened in Russia was the exact opposite of what socialism preaches and that is that the working middle class should control production the exact opposite of what happened in Russia you little twit
kuhj278 8 months ago
code pink worked with egypt look it up that's what we have google for. Code Pink is code word for ANYTHING OBAMA look them up Obamacare,Immigrant,against the war, like I said anthing Obama
behonest47 9 months ago
@behonest47 Obama against the war? Are you willfully ignorant? "Comrade" Obama was the one who has increased and intensifies the efforts the "glorious proletarian struggle" (AKA, the illegal war against Afghanistan).
Fyodorization 8 months ago
The ignorance is palpable. I feel sorry for this kid. He needs to read and study history more thoroughly.
jdgrab1 9 months ago
Socialism never works look into history
Lots of lives lost no freedom just misery
The Iron Curtain fell for what good reason,
to show people there's hope in the midst of ideological demons,
but, if you're runnin for um you wont know how to detect it,
until the social president is the one that's elected.
GunClingingPalin 10 months ago
@GunClingingPalin See socialism's always been here just widely rejected,
But with the demoralizing of our country more people except it,
so.. now there's no need for them to be all deceptive,
a copy of the Constitution would be a good investment.
GunClingingPalin 10 months ago
The only problem with Socialism and Communism is that Human Beings are not satisfied being the same as everybody as else, there is always going to be somebody who wants to rise above the pack, and depending on how ambitious that person is they will use any means to get where they want to go. Theres an old Soviet Union saying that goes "All Comrades are Equal, some are just more equal than others."
guruman3 10 months ago
@guruman3 "Theres an old Soviet Union saying that goes 'All Comrades are Equal, some are just more equal than others.' " Funny comment, this one. This is clearly referring to Animal Farm, which is a great book, but it is written by a man who had never visited the Soviet Union. The same man also wrote a book in which a central aspect was the intentional rewriting of history. guruman3's comment is more along the lines of that than any saying in the Soviet Union.
Fyodorization 8 months ago
i was just in London when the "anarchists" took over a "workers" rally. let me tell u what i saw: a bunch of punks wearing black & skull caps & scarfs over their faces carrying Communists flags throwing rocks bricks & wutever they cud find into storefront windows causing as much damage as possible before the police unloaded in FULL RIOT GEAR. i heard explosives. they targeted the Ritz Hotel bcuz u know... success is EVIL!!
is THAT wut "progress" looks like? ...anarchy = douchebaggery
just sayin
RedRiverDreams 11 months ago
i CANT BELIEVE YOU WENT TO THAT RALLY!!!!!
LoL!!!!!! hope you wore aluminum foil on your head to protect your brain :)
RedRiverDreams 11 months ago
Don't knock people for wearing communist T-shirts while you wear a shirt with the face of a man who is responsible for innocent deaths in Iran and Nicaragua.
NYanarchy08 11 months ago 2
I'm sorry, but you're wrong and you don't know what socialism is. Put down the Glen Beck. Stalin is not condoned by any socialists/communists in the modern world, because it is modernly understood that he betrayed Lenin and the real communist ideology. You need to be educated before you make messages like this, because you made a fool of yourself to educated people and an idol to the fat uneducated idiots. Read Das Kapital or something so you can know more about it.
VideoFreeMichael 11 months ago 9
@VideoFreeMichael go read Wealth Of Nations by Adam Smith, that trumps anything written by Marx.
DearCitizenTv 11 months ago
@DearCitizenTv Yeah it's a great book i agree, I don't know if you can compare it to Marx because they're both two different systems with different goals.
Here are some quotes that you might've missed in it though
"Every tax, however, is, to the person who pays it, a badge, not of slavery, but of liberty." (p.704)
"The recovery of a great foreign market will generally more than compensate the transitory inconvenience of paying dearer during a short time for some sorts of goods." (p.468)
Serial520 11 months ago
@DearCitizenTv Go read Why Socialism? by Albert Einsten, that trumps anything written by Smith
joekopor 9 months ago
@joekopor - read a history book and see the fact that the U.S. (capitalism) has been the most prosperous and generous country in world history. And the socialist countries have been...failures.
Read a newspaper... Wow, China is embracing capitalism too?
danco35 9 months ago
@joekopor - No it doesn't! Appeal to Authority Fallacy much? Come on. Einstein was a physicist, NOT an economist. Smith was an economist, which is an expert in the PROPER AREA.
If you want the ultimate slaughter of Socialism read Karl Marx and the Close of His System by Eugen Bohm-Bawerk. Also, Requiem For Marx by Yuri N. Maltzev slaughters much of the practical side of Marxism. Then, The Black Book of Communism by Harvard University Press slaughters the human equation in communism. Come on.
Slipknotyk06 9 months ago
@Slipknotyk06 You seem to be implying that the occupation of a person is the only subject they are allowed to deal in, regardless of intellect.
I can guarantee you, GUARANTEE YOU, that Einstein was twice as smart as Smith and is more suited to understanding human relations than Smith was. The problem with economists is that they are all capitalists and care nothing for how their system effects people both socially or mentally. All they focus on is what works at making the most money. Come on.
joekopor 9 months ago
@joekopor - Wow, your argument is laced with fallacy and confusion. You rage against Capitalism, when your problem isn't with Capitalism but Mercantilism. Smith raged against Mercantilism, and so did Marx, in his utter confusion. Then, you're indicating that all these men are concerned with is what makes the most money? That's the point! The society that makes the most money overall is the most prosperous overall. Command economies make mis-allocations of resources which impoverish real people.
Slipknotyk06 9 months ago
@joekopor - Most economists are full on sociologists, but Einstein wasn't. Your problem is you're being misled to incorrect conclusions in the wrong economic system by a man that in his own words produced "economic scheisse" and did whatever he could to fill his time and not produce volumes 2 and 3 of Das Kapital. Then, you cite a man whose understanding of economics and depth of interpretation of Socialism was shallow at best. Einstein is a numbskull on the issue; the cro magnon of economists.
Slipknotyk06 9 months ago
@Slipknotyk06 Those books blame the deaths to bureaucratic incompetence, which is not communism or socialism's fault.
Amartya Sen in the early 1980s estimated the excess of mortality in India over China due to the latter's "relatively equitable distribution of medical resources, under the same logic, the capitalist 'experiment' has caused more deaths than in the entire history of Communism everywhere since 1917: over 100 million deaths by 1979, and tens of millions more since, in India alone."
JArrexte 8 months ago
@JArrexte - Amartya Sen is incorrectly attributing deaths due to Mercantilism, to Capitalism. This makes your talking point a fallacious pile of drivel. Since India opened up their marketplace to globalization, Absolute poverty was cut in half, and starvation has been cut by 90%. Beforehand, India was fiercely protectionist, and had a very closed economy and because of that fact, the economy suffered. This is because of mercantile regulation, and NOT capitalism.
Slipknotyk06 8 months ago
@Slipknotyk06
Sorry, did an employer provide wages for an employee where he was earning "profit" off of the surplus labor of the worker? Then that's capitalism. Plain and simple.
JArrexte 8 months ago
@JArrexte - You clearly don't understand what capitalism versus mercantilism is. Capitalism is free exchange of goods, and free exchange of labor. Mercantilism is where Government deeply regulates the exchange of goods and labor, to protect an existing favored class or caste. Capitalism is noted by upward mobility and positive-sum exchange while mercantilism is zero-sum. Mercantilism is noted by no social mobility. You're intentionally oversimplifying.
Slipknotyk06 8 months ago
@DearCitizenTv Marx accepted the Wealth of Nations, and built upon it with Capital. Disprove the Labor Theory of Value and then you can talk about "trumping" Marx.
JArrexte 8 months ago
@DearCitizenTv yeah, because we haven't learned a thing about economics since 1776. moron.
KataVideo 7 months ago
@DearCitizenTv You haven't read Wealth of Nations or you wouldn't spout such ignorant nonsense.
steelhamster 6 months ago
@steelhamster
I find him funny!
MrReco12 6 months ago
Marx called religion the opiate of the masses, but there were were other people around the same time as Marx, pushing for a sort of Christian-Socialist society, arguing that the Bible and the teachings of Christ merit such a system. Not arguing for or against it, but it IS a little unfair to paint all socialists as Bible-burners.
It's funny, the two things that people are often too afraid to talk about - politics and religion - just so happen to be the two most important things in our lives!
tinyDANcer1127 11 months ago
...Now everybody sing "We are the world blah , blah , blah".
computerpurple 11 months ago
Socialism is an economic system, Communism is a political system. They go hand-in-hand, just like a free market economy goes hand-in-hand with a free society.
And just because something ahsn't happened yet, it doesn't mean it never will, or that it isn't in the works, as the subverters are hard at work right under our noses.
Goof video. Kudos for attending that rally and picking up that propaganda paper. We need more people like you who are aware of what's going on.
NoGuff 11 months ago
I seriously hope that Glenn Beck is not your only source of facts. And I hope that your unquestioning faith of Jesus doesn't carry over into an unquestioning faith of Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck is not omniscient and he often masks his opinions as "The Truth."
withjezos 11 months ago
Long Live Bolshevik - Leninism
amsterdam78 11 months ago
The "progressive version" of history? Progressives have nothing to gain by lying about the past: the movement is rooted in looking towards the future and building a better one. Conservatives are rooted in conservation of society; thus, making the past seem idyllic and romantic helps their cause more. Like heroicsteve said, you're going to deny it, and not even think about the possibility of it being correct for a second before stating it is a lie, but we're going to say it anyways.
gaylewis1 11 months ago
Thanks for all the comments in support of this video. Thank you for the comments not in support of the video to. Even the really uncivil high school maturity level ones.
DearCitizenTv 11 months ago
the progressive version of history is the correct one: note the character in the video how from his t-shirt, he idolises Reagan. Reagan wrecked the US economy - its a fact. But it is a fact denied. What is there to be done about that. Alls we can do is point out your deceptions and errors and move on.
heroicsteve 11 months ago
Tea Party Sen. Rand Paul and Jon Stewart had a very relevant discussion on this subject. Both present very important points for the 2 sides of the argument; Ronald Reagan's Laissez Faire hands-off government vs. Government intervention and regulation. It's on the Daily Show's website. The US government is a balance of free market vs. government regulation.
withjezos 11 months ago
Socialism is the future. Do not conflate dictatorial communism with socialism - it is intellectually lazy and degenerate.
heroicsteve 11 months ago
@heroicsteve Sorry, not our future. It's failed.
Alvin691 11 months ago
@Alvin691 It depends on your version of history. Objectively socialism has been highly successful.
heroicsteve 11 months ago
@heroicsteve I prefer the truth, not the Progressive perversion of history. Peddle your failed ideology in another country. We will have none of it.
Alvin691 11 months ago
hahahah "socialism never worked" phew thank god sweden with its extremely high standard of living and education/healthcare system that is the envy of the world just doesn't exist!
64chris64 11 months ago
@64chris64 Socialism is the ANUS of economics. Period.
Sweden only works because there's a smaller, more manageable population that facilitates a higher GDP per capita. Plus, their own currency is backed up by OUR dollar, NOT their own country's wealth.
QuartuvLarry 11 months ago
Spot on video. I do however want to say that as a conservative I do not suggest using the Israel angle portrayed in this video. Faith crosses all boundaries and the lefts objection with Israel is not tied into their fear/hatred of religion, though it does exist, their objection is with the modern political culture of the Israeli state. This video doesn't touch base with the left more than it does simply piss them off, which isnt a bad thing, but changing their idealism would be more productive.
identitycrisistheft 11 months ago
you are spreading inaccurate definitions.
communism - a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production (for example USSR)
socialism - a system of society or group living in which there is no private property (for example, the Kibbutzes of Israel)
George Orwell wrote famous anti-communist literature but was, himself, a socialist.
withjezos 11 months ago
@withjezos But both are shown to be obscenely anti-liberty, which renders their differences altogether arbitrary to those who righteously defend our Superior Constitution.
QuartuvLarry 11 months ago
@QuartuvLarry Liberty infers freedom, which is very important. Socialism infers government regulation which is equally important. Without Liberty, we would be slaves. Without government regulation, companies could dump toxic waste into water supplies, food products at the market could contain poisons, people would be able to drink and drive. America is a country of balance between recognition of liberty, and recognition that everyone needs to cooperate for the greater good sometimes.
withjezos 11 months ago
@withjezos I can appreciate the necessity for gov't, & am not opposed to a ruling body. I'm not an anarchist. But things being what they are, it's become apparent that this gov't has become too bureaucratically bloated, and is in dire need of massive cuts. Food products at the market have actually BECOME poisonous because of (or in spite of) over-regulation. Raw meats are colored red with a carcinogenic dye, dietary sweeteners are substituted with aspartame, & water is bottled with BPA chemicals
QuartuvLarry 11 months ago
@withjezos And people already do drink & drive. The only difference it would make is the lack of revenue that penalizing such behavior would bring.
QuartuvLarry 11 months ago
Very GOOD Justen, you hit it right on the head. This has the marxo-comms sitrred up like a hornets nest. The explotation of Jesus with this rally is positively evil and the good christian people know this to be true. Keep up the good work. God bless.
cbpd800 11 months ago
@cbpd800 You do realise that if Jesus was to pick a political stance, it would most likely be socialist. I can only assume you have never read his words in the New Testament.
steelhamster 6 months ago
The singing reminds me of Cartman for some reason.
Mrcharliebobo 11 months ago
lol i live in wisconsin and i see absolutely no similarity between the situation of the working class in wisconsin and the working class in egypt.
FriendlyGeekClassics 11 months ago
How well do unions fare once a country is socialist?
ghs1357 11 months ago
@ghs1357 Like all socialist systems it collapses unto itself... socialism is not an economic system but a political one, it relies solely on capitalism to survive since wealth must (DUH) be created before it can be redistributed. After people get punished for their success and rewarded for being parasites, wealth creators either leave for more hospitable shores, or simply stop trying so damn hard... wealth diminishes, there are more takers and producers... and it all falls appart... always does.
USA4July1776 11 months ago
@USA4July1776 Meant to write: "there are more takers and less producers"
USA4July1776 11 months ago
Leftists like George Soros promote int'l capitalism for global finaceers like himself; the free flow of goods, labor and capitals according to market-needs, while promoting national socialism for the rest of us, so that we are forced to subsidize cheap labor imported from the third world at $40/hr in tax-funded welfare benefits as companies pay them $3/hr for the job we lost. When battered citizens dare voice outrage, leftist useful idiots are mobilized to scream "racism" & quell the rebellion.
USA4July1776 11 months ago
pro-abortion liberals praising the Lord
Roachenator 11 months ago
hahaha you can actually rap
Roachenator 11 months ago