This may reflect badly on me, but I learned more about the Cultural Revolution from watching this video than I have through independent study of it. I learned things that I needed to know and that I wanted to know. As a Communist, it is important to me that I be armed with the facts. This might be the best video you have ever done. Keep up the good work.
Unfortunately, the leaders of China didn't behave in the way of a proper revolutionist, because all politicians, while powerful, are corrupted by power. It's an never ending story of struggle for power.
it was at the contrary very entertaining and at times very funny! thank you for this bright insight on the accomplishments of the cultural revolutions and i am saddened this has vanished.. oh and yeah f*ck capitalism!
[continuation...]...don't you see the irony? As you said the Eastern Block was re-capitalized due to the loopholes which Mao thought he had solved when in fact he didn't and using the same polemic you used against post-Stalin soviet states, the same applies to post-Mao China o.O Mao's "novel" idea had been handled on a larger scale by Trotsky but unfortunately there is no model to fully test Trotsky's elaboration but this would lead to a different argument - the point is look over the irony
you'd asked about Permanent Revolution but when you began Mao's "On handling contradictions among the people" you handled it as a uniquely novel Maoist idea just as pseudo-trotskyist reformists handle Trotsky's detailed elaborations -what you actually described is a skewed minimal and to some extent narrow-minded version of permanent revolution- go over it again and you will see- & it is actually good to see you acknowledged Stalin not taking it seriously unfortunately...to be contd...
a lot of information, stuff even I didn't know on the cultural revolution.. To be honest im taking notes (I write a lot, Im not exactly thinking about getting published any time soon but literature is flowing on my hardrive.)
choosing to watch MTV of your own volition does not make you a victim of social engineering. having the state secret police take away your right to choose what to say, watch, read or support IS social engineering. your analogy is false,
@Orgyfan6 I am not going to speak for MRN, but most Maoists oppose Trotskyism as Trotsky was a great revolutionary at first, but intellectually deteriorated in his later years, and thus made some foolish and nonsensical statements. he admitted that old age had got the best of him.
@MaoLeninMarx well for one i never have heard him say that. And are you jokeing? Much of his best work was whan he was older. his view of Stalin and the USSR was great. and i am sure he would have blasted Mao for the loony toon he was as well.
@Orgyfan6 You are proving that trotskyism is nothing but a servant to the capitalists. The capitalist uses the trotskyist to say "Hey, look, even some commies hate Stalin and Mao...".
Mao set up thousands of peoples' communes throughout China. Maoist China was the closest any modern society has gotten to communism, thus a true communist wouldn't oppose Maoism. Stalin industrialized Russia and played a major role in defeating Hitler.
Imagine there was a river, and every few minutes a baby comes floating down the river, a Liberal will perhaps get the baby out of the water and maybe look after it. A "Leftist" will take the time to instead go up the river and kill the sick fuck that is tossing babies down the river.
Guns&Butter has in their archives (don't remember the #) a really great little talk called "The Unknown Cultural Revolution" by a man who grew up in China during those times. I found it very moving. I'm pretty sure you'd like it.
Hey, i have watched the entire video, yeah it was hard. Good on you for the effort though. My parents in China lived through the culture revolution as teenagers. They often tell me that although lives were much poorer then, and despite the craziness of some polices such as the "send-down-youth"(i.e. students sent to the countryside to re-educate), they miss the simplicity of life during that period and the genuine care for others and a sense of greater purpose, all hard to find in China today.
Thoughts (cont6): Destruction and persecution: Your idea that critics were what bankers are today is crazy. How does that explain the destruction of libraries and documents? Before making a video like this you should actually check out the history.
But you are right, people who disagreed with the mob were persecuted. That is suffering and you do not know what altruism is.
It's quite funny how you claim that documents were destroyed to hide the good. Reality is that the party protects itself.
Thoughts (cont6): ... party positions. Not one chairwoman yet. The communist party of China is patriarchical.
Real vs illusory power: Well you can run for the texas board of education and influence millions of children. You can run for office, but per chance not succeed. In China these things are even harder. You are even more powerless effecting educational change, or climbing the party ladder with an independent mind.
Content of character: China is amazingly cut-throat locally.
Thoughts (cont5): Doctor volunteering: This is a broad phenomenon in many societal types. Altruistic help is not unique to China.
"help themselves" is of course a feel-good notion. Some health problems require quite a bit of expertise. The role of patient to doctor isn't really all that different than elsewhere.
Women: I agree that equality is tremendous in China, I disagree that it dissolved recently. University attendance is a good measure for this. In fact consider female membership in top...
@socrates856 Good post. The CR was no more liberationist than were the great anti-witch hysterias that rocked the dying feudal order of Europe.
The fact is, peasant societies are poisonously envious societies. You break your back working like everyone else, but nature hands out rewards unfairly. The urge to destroy your neighbor's harvest, luck, happiness, beauty, achievement, etc is ever-present, and is part of how peasant societies maintain social control. Mao knew this, and used it.
Thoughts (cont4): ... has to persist. This of course is the primary flaw in Marx/Engels, along with the devastating doctrine that force is justified to bring this about, failing to understand that the party has no legitimacy.
Being heard: Frankly it's laughable that you argue that free opinion is heard in China, when indeed it is. It gets you arrested. Only ideas that was perceived as conforming was speakable. That is totalitariaism. It's not silence but confined speech.
Thoughts (cont3): Mao: When Mao says "the proletariate seeks to transform" he really meant: He seeks to transform. There never was anything communist about putting Mao's picture up where former religious symbols that had been smashed during the CR hung. Mao worship itself is bourgeoise and anti-communist if one took that concept seriously.
The party is the ruling class, and Mao understood nothing about the flawed historicism that the communist party will disappear, rather he encoded that it...
Thoughts (cont2): Massive amounts of historic documents were mindlessly destroyed. You basically sugar-talk what happened. "Reactionary people" is code for people who disagree, leading to persecution and public execution and a culture of fear of any decent of supposed "open ideas from the people".
The main misconception is that "the proletariat" does all this. In fact it is a few heads, and their supporting groups that do this and claim the masses want it.
Thoughts (cont1): University: You should go before you judge. I guess open long hour libraries exist so that you can only find there thought that the teachers force you to consider.
Liberals: A poor US centric definition of liberalism.
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China: A basic question: Have you ever been? I completely content that the average Chinese has or had any say in what society they want
Teaching and challenge: 1960. It happened, you weren't there hence you are ignorant about it. It was stronger in Europe.
Thoughts: Karl Popper used the word social engineering in a positive way, he however also critiqued the radical/totalitarian forms of social engineering.
China: Having been to china, it is hard to see your notions of altruism etc. It also seems to be partly ahistorical given the victimization and destruction that was also part of the CR.
Happiness: True, but it is obvious that happiness is bigger in liberal social democracies than in maoist china (Sweden, etc). China has massive abject poverty.
Extremely interesting video; thumbs up and favourited. Could you provide a background of the relations between Mao, Stalin and Ho Chi Minh - specifically in regards to Vietnam going into Cambodia. Pol Pot was heavily criticised by visiting communists from the Eastern Bloc and Vietnam but little is known about what Mao said (assume he critiqued Pol Pot/Cambodia) - are there any memoirs that go into detail regarding this? love to see a video on it :)
I have two adopted Chinese cousins. While they may or may not agree with the Cultural Revolution and all of today's politics in China, they are very proud seeing China emerging as a 'modern, developed nation'.
Beautiful work, comrade. You have our (communists') gratitude for making this, and I consider this to be one of the most important videos on YouTube. Friggin' A.
This is great. I really appreciated your addressing the idea of free speech under capitalism. Freedom of speech is one of the many ways that people like us are slandered when in reality we have no access to the means of speech.
Wait, how is the Chinese Cultural Revolution so unique? I thought it was based on the Soviet Cultural Revolution under Stalin? And that's a genuine question, not arguing.
Also rappers, Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian became famous because the people made them famous, the TV viewers made them famous. For example, if Snoop Dogg made his first album and then nobody wanted to or was interested in listening to him, then Snoop Dogg wouldn't never been famous in the first place.
First of all MTV sucks because its not a music channel anymore. Also "Mindless materialism is forced upon us from all angles." Nobody is forcing you to watch that stuff. Also many Hannah Montana songs are about relationships.
If Mao's China was so great, then why was Chiang Kai-shek's Taiwan that was doing so great that it's now considered one of the four Asian Tigers?
@cperez352 Funnily enough, Taiwan also developed with strong state intervention & state owned enterprises; Of course, not of the scale in China bien sur.
Good video. The critique of the bourgeois within socialism sounds a lot like the anarchists critique of socialism. Is this a matter of the two tendencies just being similar in this respect, one borrowing from the other, or something else.
interesting video. I love to hear from different points of view, however one thing that is making me uneasy is that you mention NO major flaws and sound too much of an idealist... i understand that this is your position, but when you mention no major downside (which with this kind of reconstruction of society there is bond to be some) it does worry me on the truth of a few of you're claims, but i shall read up and see if I do dig anything up.
well, I watched the whole thing, and i really enjoyed it! It clarified afew things i was somewhat unlearned about concerning maoism, and maoism in practice. Thank you Maoist Rebel!
Longest video I have ever seen....I like the idea of creating a new culture...but I didn't like the fact that it would destroy the Chinese culture...it's kinda like a fifty fifty thing to me...but I LOVE the idea, but hate the fact it would destroy older cultures.
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There was a personality cult in china... with the Republic of China. WTF
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with the Republic of China. WTF.
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FUCK YOU COMMUNIST
LordTroll9000 4 months ago
And then Xiaoping came...
GeneralKlaas 5 months ago
This may reflect badly on me, but I learned more about the Cultural Revolution from watching this video than I have through independent study of it. I learned things that I needed to know and that I wanted to know. As a Communist, it is important to me that I be armed with the facts. This might be the best video you have ever done. Keep up the good work.
jimnmcf 6 months ago
"Only time in history this happened"
A Cultural Revolution, or modernization on that scale? Because the Meji Restoration of Japan rivals it.
fonkymaster 7 months ago
Mao was a bro for reals
DefTheMarxist 7 months ago 2
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LordTroll9000 4 months ago
Unfortunately, the leaders of China didn't behave in the way of a proper revolutionist, because all politicians, while powerful, are corrupted by power. It's an never ending story of struggle for power.
Elbinger 7 months ago
it was at the contrary very entertaining and at times very funny! thank you for this bright insight on the accomplishments of the cultural revolutions and i am saddened this has vanished.. oh and yeah f*ck capitalism!
matsneyers 7 months ago
Think about it Unle Ho (Ho Chi Mihn), The great leader (Kim Il sung), Koba (Josef V Stalin)
rbouverat 7 months ago
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LordTroll9000 4 months ago
Even if Mao did have a cult of personality thats a common social occurance in a country in transition from fuedalism to Socialism
rbouverat 7 months ago
*sigh* If only Deng Xiaping and his cronies hadn't fucked everything up
MrCommunistUSA 7 months ago
[continuation...]...don't you see the irony? As you said the Eastern Block was re-capitalized due to the loopholes which Mao thought he had solved when in fact he didn't and using the same polemic you used against post-Stalin soviet states, the same applies to post-Mao China o.O Mao's "novel" idea had been handled on a larger scale by Trotsky but unfortunately there is no model to fully test Trotsky's elaboration but this would lead to a different argument - the point is look over the irony
WorldRevolutionaries 9 months ago
you'd asked about Permanent Revolution but when you began Mao's "On handling contradictions among the people" you handled it as a uniquely novel Maoist idea just as pseudo-trotskyist reformists handle Trotsky's detailed elaborations -what you actually described is a skewed minimal and to some extent narrow-minded version of permanent revolution- go over it again and you will see- & it is actually good to see you acknowledged Stalin not taking it seriously unfortunately...to be contd...
WorldRevolutionaries 9 months ago
a lot of information, stuff even I didn't know on the cultural revolution.. To be honest im taking notes (I write a lot, Im not exactly thinking about getting published any time soon but literature is flowing on my hardrive.)
AtheismCentral 9 months ago
choosing to watch MTV of your own volition does not make you a victim of social engineering. having the state secret police take away your right to choose what to say, watch, read or support IS social engineering. your analogy is false,
chrispollock 10 months ago
WOAH AN HOUR THIS IS A DOCUMENTARY MAN.
RayDickstein 11 months ago
Hmm good vid. What do you think of Trotsky?
Orgyfan6 1 year ago
@Orgyfan6 I am not going to speak for MRN, but most Maoists oppose Trotskyism as Trotsky was a great revolutionary at first, but intellectually deteriorated in his later years, and thus made some foolish and nonsensical statements. he admitted that old age had got the best of him.
MaoLeninMarx 10 months ago
@MaoLeninMarx well for one i never have heard him say that. And are you jokeing? Much of his best work was whan he was older. his view of Stalin and the USSR was great. and i am sure he would have blasted Mao for the loony toon he was as well.
Orgyfan6 10 months ago
@Orgyfan6 You are proving that trotskyism is nothing but a servant to the capitalists. The capitalist uses the trotskyist to say "Hey, look, even some commies hate Stalin and Mao...".
Mao set up thousands of peoples' communes throughout China. Maoist China was the closest any modern society has gotten to communism, thus a true communist wouldn't oppose Maoism. Stalin industrialized Russia and played a major role in defeating Hitler.
MaoLeninMarx 10 months ago
Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube have all been blocked in China.
cperez352 1 year ago 2
@cperez352 Maybe I misunderstand your stance, but if you watched the video you would know that modern day China is the exact opposite of communism.
ComradeIstrix 1 year ago
I am enlightened. Thank you.
unifieddynasty 1 year ago
great vid. i really do not know that much on Mao.
Orgyfan6 1 year ago
The difference between a Liberal and a "Leftist":
Imagine there was a river, and every few minutes a baby comes floating down the river, a Liberal will perhaps get the baby out of the water and maybe look after it. A "Leftist" will take the time to instead go up the river and kill the sick fuck that is tossing babies down the river.
LazarusCato 1 year ago 17
@LazarusCato U sir have posted the single best comment in youtube history
you are a god sir a god
rbouverat 9 months ago
@rbouverat haha no way, I forget who I stole that from, but yeah, thank ye
LazarusCato 9 months ago
"The American Dream: You have to be asleep to see it"
haha awesome - my next T-Shirt design
LazarusCato 1 year ago
Great video :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
Awesome video Comrade, You're best one yet!
RedComradeChe 1 year ago
Big Crimson, Excellent Video the more reason I love Communism and Socialism. PERIOD!!!
lapiz4azulli 1 year ago
A great leap forward comrade!!
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
Excellent overview/presentation of the movement, MR. I don't 'agree' with a lot, but I think I learned a lot too. Thanks for doing this.
Thomistica 1 year ago
Guns&Butter has in their archives (don't remember the #) a really great little talk called "The Unknown Cultural Revolution" by a man who grew up in China during those times. I found it very moving. I'm pretty sure you'd like it.
grandmachristine42 1 year ago
Hey, i have watched the entire video, yeah it was hard. Good on you for the effort though. My parents in China lived through the culture revolution as teenagers. They often tell me that although lives were much poorer then, and despite the craziness of some polices such as the "send-down-youth"(i.e. students sent to the countryside to re-educate), they miss the simplicity of life during that period and the genuine care for others and a sense of greater purpose, all hard to find in China today.
lichaonz 1 year ago
Thoughts (cont6): Destruction and persecution: Your idea that critics were what bankers are today is crazy. How does that explain the destruction of libraries and documents? Before making a video like this you should actually check out the history.
But you are right, people who disagreed with the mob were persecuted. That is suffering and you do not know what altruism is.
It's quite funny how you claim that documents were destroyed to hide the good. Reality is that the party protects itself.
socrates856 1 year ago 3
Thoughts (cont6): ... party positions. Not one chairwoman yet. The communist party of China is patriarchical.
Real vs illusory power: Well you can run for the texas board of education and influence millions of children. You can run for office, but per chance not succeed. In China these things are even harder. You are even more powerless effecting educational change, or climbing the party ladder with an independent mind.
Content of character: China is amazingly cut-throat locally.
socrates856 1 year ago
Thoughts (cont5): Doctor volunteering: This is a broad phenomenon in many societal types. Altruistic help is not unique to China.
"help themselves" is of course a feel-good notion. Some health problems require quite a bit of expertise. The role of patient to doctor isn't really all that different than elsewhere.
Women: I agree that equality is tremendous in China, I disagree that it dissolved recently. University attendance is a good measure for this. In fact consider female membership in top...
socrates856 1 year ago
@socrates856 Good post. The CR was no more liberationist than were the great anti-witch hysterias that rocked the dying feudal order of Europe.
The fact is, peasant societies are poisonously envious societies. You break your back working like everyone else, but nature hands out rewards unfairly. The urge to destroy your neighbor's harvest, luck, happiness, beauty, achievement, etc is ever-present, and is part of how peasant societies maintain social control. Mao knew this, and used it.
justamarxist 1 year ago
Thoughts (cont4): ... has to persist. This of course is the primary flaw in Marx/Engels, along with the devastating doctrine that force is justified to bring this about, failing to understand that the party has no legitimacy.
Being heard: Frankly it's laughable that you argue that free opinion is heard in China, when indeed it is. It gets you arrested. Only ideas that was perceived as conforming was speakable. That is totalitariaism. It's not silence but confined speech.
socrates856 1 year ago
Thoughts (cont3): Mao: When Mao says "the proletariate seeks to transform" he really meant: He seeks to transform. There never was anything communist about putting Mao's picture up where former religious symbols that had been smashed during the CR hung. Mao worship itself is bourgeoise and anti-communist if one took that concept seriously.
The party is the ruling class, and Mao understood nothing about the flawed historicism that the communist party will disappear, rather he encoded that it...
socrates856 1 year ago
Thoughts (cont2): Massive amounts of historic documents were mindlessly destroyed. You basically sugar-talk what happened. "Reactionary people" is code for people who disagree, leading to persecution and public execution and a culture of fear of any decent of supposed "open ideas from the people".
The main misconception is that "the proletariat" does all this. In fact it is a few heads, and their supporting groups that do this and claim the masses want it.
socrates856 1 year ago
Thoughts (cont1): University: You should go before you judge. I guess open long hour libraries exist so that you can only find there thought that the teachers force you to consider.
Liberals: A poor US centric definition of liberalism.
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China: A basic question: Have you ever been? I completely content that the average Chinese has or had any say in what society they want
Teaching and challenge: 1960. It happened, you weren't there hence you are ignorant about it. It was stronger in Europe.
socrates856 1 year ago
Thoughts: Karl Popper used the word social engineering in a positive way, he however also critiqued the radical/totalitarian forms of social engineering.
China: Having been to china, it is hard to see your notions of altruism etc. It also seems to be partly ahistorical given the victimization and destruction that was also part of the CR.
Happiness: True, but it is obvious that happiness is bigger in liberal social democracies than in maoist china (Sweden, etc). China has massive abject poverty.
socrates856 1 year ago
the French Revolution.
mjh012363 1 year ago
One of your best videos yet, comrade!
Keep up the good work, you give us communists hope and I am sure you have converted many people towards communism.
PesiCool 1 year ago
Extremely interesting video; thumbs up and favourited. Could you provide a background of the relations between Mao, Stalin and Ho Chi Minh - specifically in regards to Vietnam going into Cambodia. Pol Pot was heavily criticised by visiting communists from the Eastern Bloc and Vietnam but little is known about what Mao said (assume he critiqued Pol Pot/Cambodia) - are there any memoirs that go into detail regarding this? love to see a video on it :)
kawaiigardiner 1 year ago
This video was really good, most likely one of my favourites. Good work.
Jasonthegaiface 1 year ago
The Glorious revolution in England.
Jasonthegaiface 1 year ago
Nothing like ushering the new year with an hour-long video. Cool info.
juliaisafilmbuff123 1 year ago
I have two adopted Chinese cousins. While they may or may not agree with the Cultural Revolution and all of today's politics in China, they are very proud seeing China emerging as a 'modern, developed nation'.
tahoemack 1 year ago
I wanted to like this, because so much time must have gone into putting it together.
But what it all boiled down to was a whole hour of defending the indefensible.
:(
justamarxist 1 year ago
SOMEONE MAKE REBEL A VIDEO INTRO!!!!
Reqrezentin 1 year ago
Beautiful work, comrade. You have our (communists') gratitude for making this, and I consider this to be one of the most important videos on YouTube. Friggin' A.
AkaiShizuku 1 year ago
This is great. I really appreciated your addressing the idea of free speech under capitalism. Freedom of speech is one of the many ways that people like us are slandered when in reality we have no access to the means of speech.
iremythpurr 1 year ago
Bravo
theracemixer 1 year ago
Wait, how is the Chinese Cultural Revolution so unique? I thought it was based on the Soviet Cultural Revolution under Stalin? And that's a genuine question, not arguing.
tj2tone 1 year ago
Also rappers, Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian became famous because the people made them famous, the TV viewers made them famous. For example, if Snoop Dogg made his first album and then nobody wanted to or was interested in listening to him, then Snoop Dogg wouldn't never been famous in the first place.
cperez352 1 year ago
First of all MTV sucks because its not a music channel anymore. Also "Mindless materialism is forced upon us from all angles." Nobody is forcing you to watch that stuff. Also many Hannah Montana songs are about relationships.
If Mao's China was so great, then why was Chiang Kai-shek's Taiwan that was doing so great that it's now considered one of the four Asian Tigers?
cperez352 1 year ago
@cperez352 Funnily enough, Taiwan also developed with strong state intervention & state owned enterprises; Of course, not of the scale in China bien sur.
Scientisticsoviet 1 year ago
Good video. The critique of the bourgeois within socialism sounds a lot like the anarchists critique of socialism. Is this a matter of the two tendencies just being similar in this respect, one borrowing from the other, or something else.
Any suggestions on reading about this?
Vive y salud!
jacobvardy 1 year ago 2
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jacobvardy 1 year ago
interesting video. I love to hear from different points of view, however one thing that is making me uneasy is that you mention NO major flaws and sound too much of an idealist... i understand that this is your position, but when you mention no major downside (which with this kind of reconstruction of society there is bond to be some) it does worry me on the truth of a few of you're claims, but i shall read up and see if I do dig anything up.
GodAthie 1 year ago
@GodAthie because every fucking video on YouTube is the "downside".
MaoistRebelNews2 1 year ago 5
@MaoistRebelNews2
Excellent work!
Mobo Goa and many chinese peasants have fond memories of Mao and the cultural revolution.
It is only pompous intellectuals, corrupt officials and spolit brats who decry the cultural revolution.
MrReco12 1 year ago
well, I watched the whole thing, and i really enjoyed it! It clarified afew things i was somewhat unlearned about concerning maoism, and maoism in practice. Thank you Maoist Rebel!
BigRickDouglas1 1 year ago
Longest video I have ever seen....I like the idea of creating a new culture...but I didn't like the fact that it would destroy the Chinese culture...it's kinda like a fifty fifty thing to me...but I LOVE the idea, but hate the fact it would destroy older cultures.
101AntiNazi 1 year ago