The hard part of this segement is seeing them try to carry on as normal but we know everything will unravel from here. To be fair, the citizens in Lawrence don't know the attack is everywhere just yet...but still you know taking care of that many people in the hospital is futile. Of course you can make the arguement they have to try anyway.
To think there are actually nut job leaders in the world who would actually launch missiles and do something like this. Are we just insane as a race or what.
Daddy, how long will we have to stay down here? I admit it, I've got a dark sense of humor, because that made me laugh. Only until you die of lack of potable water, kid, so hang in there until then.
Recently I watched Threads, and the striking thing is the portrayal of the survivors. In Threads, the survivors are nearly silent and quickly revert to animalistic behavior. In this film, people pull together and attempt to recreate quickly.
@mooncat1965 Which is one area that I think this film has it over Threads. Anybody who has seen people pull together in the wake of a disaster knows that it's in our nature to try to help one another hold on to the familiar. Threads is a very brilliant film, but it completely omitted the phase where people would try to band together. It would ultimately be futile, but I do believe that we would at least try.
@lothartheterrible I think that depends on the type of society. In Japan for example people were brilliant after the earthquake and fukushima, but they were brought up to respect one another and be patient I believe. I dread to thing what would happen over here in the same situation, people start a brawl over who was first in queue at the bl**dy ice cream van.
@maybeaspie38 Well, to a degree that may be accurate. But there were also the people of Joplin, MO pulling together in the wake of a massive tornado, and the collective nation's reaction to September 11.
You know when we think of rads the very things that make us "advanced beings" also doom us our internal skeleton with the marrow etc. is extremely sensative to the rads pity.
I remember when this first aired. I was 6 years old and my mother sent me to bed earlier than usual that night. Being a bit stubborn, I watched from around the corner and had full view of the nuclear scene. I wont ever forget that. Then as I got older I learned about Able Archer in September 1983 and realized just how close we really were,etc. Crazy.
Just imagine what McCoy's thinking and feeling when he crawls out of that truck, knowing that the radiation is so extreme. He can even see the fallout drifting down in little clumps of grey ash. He knows it'll get inside him and burn him away to nothing, but what else is he supposed to do?
Seems to me the worst thing about the aftermath of a nuclear war is famine. Food and water would be scarce, and likely all contaminated by fallout. People would become desperate enough to kill others for their food. Surviving farmers would see their livelihoods end, their crops and livestock destroyed or stolen. Newly planted crops would not survive in contaminated soil, nor without rain, thanks to nuclear winter. Farmers wouldn't be able to feed their own families, let alone a decimated nation.
Well, time to take stock of things. The power is off. The heat is off. And the water is off, which means that the toilet doesn't flush. The phone isn't working either. And it is NOT coming back on. Ever. Not in our lifetimes, anyway. But maybe it WILL come back on during our descendants' lifetimes a few centuries or millennia from now. IF they can ever rediscover how it USED to work. Lots of luck!
Actually the EMP effect was first noticed by Americans during the late 1950's when a nuclear warhead was detonated near (but not close) to Hawaii in the atmosphere. It fried the circuits for the radio broadcasts. They had to be replaced. Check it out in the documentary "Trinity and Beyond." Also, many of the big banks now have EMP protection for their computers. They place them in basement vaults and have EMP protectors. This movie may have been their motivation to do it.
I suggest searching Google Video for a movie called "Special Bulliten". It was done in the mid 80's and is actually still relelvant today. It deals with homegrown terrorism with nuclear implications. It's unique in that it was shot on video so it looks like a regular news cast. Only a few other shows (after this one of course) did it. It's what made me go hunt for other shows like this.
I love the the movie by BBC called Nuclear War in Britain. It´s a pitty that the ones who might have a place to hide from the radiation are the same ones who plan wars.
@33agnusdei The name of that film is actually "Threads"; it was reposted under that generic name after YouTube removed it. And of course they are; that's how it works.
@lothartheterrible Kansas City, Sedalia(whiteman afb) and a bunch of silos all up and down the plains. If he wants a complete list, just name off every major city in the US and Russia. This whole movie starts out with the Russians pissing in our pool so to speak.
@ALX11231 I would prefer to survive. If things got really really bad, I could always kill myself, but survival would be my first choice. I don't belive in movies like "The Beach", where everybody dies. There would be lots of survivors, and even lots of countries and large areas that were untouched. Radiation isn't eternal and the world wouldn't disappear.
@MysticPanic What I mean is if it fell near me, if I was in another country I *would* try to survive, but being, say, a few miles away where the radiation would be terrible, but not immediately lethal would be worse than being at ground zero.
@MysticPanic Are vyou really sure?? With thousands of nuclear warheads on both sides?? Maybe Earth would not explode, but jetstreams and radioactive fall out would reach every single place in the world... Anyway, i agree with you about surviving...
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FredAstaire76 Get a life. WMD's were and are in Iraq. According to the UN assault rifles ARE a WMD. The US courts consider the AK and variants as WMDs. Now if you want to talk about NBC weapons that is a different matter, but don't act a fool throwing around WMDs as a general term. Do a little research.
On more than one occasion leading up to the invasion of Iraq, Bush mentioned "chemical and biological" weapons. Your jab would have effect if the "WMD's" Bush alluded to had indeed been inferred to be guns.
@Photog199 Satellite photos showed a military convoy just before we invaded, and soldiers DID find containers that had the ingredients to make chemical and biological weapons. The leftist controlled media played the situation down. Bottom line, the media for the most part can't be trusted to warn us if we are in danger because they are too busy pushing political rhetoric for their puppet masters.
@AbRamskiller41 Some sappy country song will not take away the knowledge of the fact that Saddam Hussein and Iraq had exactly jack shit to do with 9/11. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to hear that, on September 12, 2001, Dubya held a meeting and asked, "Okay; how can we pin this on Saddam?" Afghanistan was the right call; the Taliban were harboring terrorists. But Iraq? That was a pissing contest.
@lothartheterrible I would like you to explain, then, why the various national and international nuclear regulatory agencies were moving silver casks with radiation symbols and "fissile material" labels out of places in Iraq called "Yellowcake"...
@Hvygunner Yeah, yellowcake is not weapons-grade uranium. It is an intermediary fissile product. I admire the effort, but you fall short. Iraq was closer to putting a man on the moon than it was to having a functioning nuke.
I think the actor who is playing the role of soldier really was convincing in the aftermath. the way you see himm emerging from his makeshift shelter with the blanket. his movements and expressions really convinces me that he is already deforming due to the radiation. the music, the surroundings really gave a the impression of hell on earth and solitude.
Agreed Anthony, With Iran, Israel, Pakistan and India having or trying to get the bomb and Russia getting very defensive of NATO trying to expand A regional conflict could escalate to full blown war. I think a new release of this movie or of Threads should be done for this generation to be aware of the potential threat.
The threat of a nuclear war today is more prevalent than it was in the 1980's. The USA & USSR knew there was a lot to lose. Today countries like Iran and it's leaders ambitions could start a new arms race in the most unstable part of the world. It would only be a matter of time before the whole world would be effected, one way or another.
I have amessage for all you who think nuclear war is not a threat and that movies like this are emotionalism...
I just came from a state meeting of Emergency Management, FEMA and local Red Cross leaders. They have NO CLUE as to how to prepapre for nuclear attack.
Get your home prepared. Decide if you want to survive an attack (leave the city) or die and be done with it (stay in the city). This is the choice to be made before all others. Do you really want to live in the aftermath. Some do.
@spershall I think the movie makers got this right. Mr. Dahlberg is an example of someone who knew this was possible, and prepared. Thus he does not die directly because of nuclear attack.
While the vast majority seem to have been unaware or in disbelife i.e. the old doctor who said "were not that crazy".
Back at that time there were people like most of the comments here reflect who think "unsurvivable" nuclear war means wherever you are you will be vaporized. no so, unfortunately.
even tho there is people still alive alot the absense of law and order we will see gangs pop up all over and mass killing will happen so people still alive wouldnt still have a chanse
Wow, yes, man is a spiritless beast. You are so right. The depths of your pseudo-intellectual prowess knows no bounds. And your arrogance is exemplary. Good for you!
I take that as a back handed comment which it is. Well atheists can make comments you know about this TV film. You believe in what you think is right and I believe in what I know is to be right. Mind you saying that, have you ever conisdered the possibility that people who believe so strongly that there is a God can also be arrogant.?
First of all, "muslin" is a fabric, a "muslim" is a follower of Islam. Second, Barack Obama has been a Christian for most of his adult life; his mother had no particular religion and his father, though raised a Muslim, had abandoned the faith by adulthood.
And yes, you are free to voice your silly opinions under the Constitution, but that means I am just as free to rebut them.
@robertsez -- OH FFS ... Cfriticize Obama as he deserves for being a pawn of the PTB, gutless bought-and-paid-for Wall Street patsy & puppet-man for the Military Security Industrial Complex -- JUST as Bush 43, Clinton, Reagan & Bush 41 were -- But to say he's 'Muslim' just shows your true faux-Republican rascist-bigot colors. You have NO more moral courage or intellectual integrity than he does. It's hilarious, in your delusion you think you're a principled Patriot -- you're just a pawn too.
There was a scene cut from the original script which featured John Lithgow's character leading the science students (Flounder et al) in a hand-to-hand battle against another group of students (mostly athletes) over dwindling food supplies. ABC forced it to be cut.
At initial moment of detonation, an atomic bomb detonates at ten times the surface temperature of the Sun.
When it detonates as an airburst, it literally forms a temporary Sun, perfectly round in shape. Basically, about the scariest thing in the history of the earth.... :P
"Threads" was pretty realistic, actually, you have to factor in the traditional incompetency of British governments, poor infrastructure, and poverty of the British working class. Even today, large segments of British population are very poor and under educated, compared to the EU average.
Yeah, obviously America is also not exactly a model of organization and discipline, but at least the people know that they are on their own, because their government doesn't give a damn about them.
The first and , in many ways, best of these movies was "The War Game" (it's on Utube) The BBC banned it when it first
was released. It exposed the lies about, and showed the futility of, Civil Defence. I got hold of a copy of it and showed it at my school's Film Club. A neighbouring school joined us. When it was over everyone sat in stunned silence for ages. One of the most shocking scenes was of British policemen taking part in firing squads to shoot looters.
I agree, I'm a fan of this movie (watching highlights of it here as my DVD collection is currently packed away) but "the War Game" and "Threads" are even better.
Another scene that got me was when people were shown dying from asphyxiation trying to fight the terrible firestorm. This to me was intense. I have The War Game with Colluden. Very well done and ahead of it's time.
At 1:34 - Might that a reused Matte painting from the early 70's film "Earthquake"? I know movie backgrounds etc. were meticulously painted before CAD and programs like Adobe and Corel came into being.
At 7:23, one of the medical staff is smoking a cigarette. I just had to gauk... there is a national emergency going on and someone needs a smoke break.
When I was having a tonsilectomy in 1969 or 1970 (thereabouts) I can recall both doctors and nurses smoking in hospital. The Sister in charge of the floor I was on ALWAYS smoked.
YES...I had it on DVD. Better in many ways... I remember when it came out, my parents wouldn't let me watch it. Historically, 'The Day After' had more of an effect - apparently, the day after Regan sat down to watch it - he changed his mind completely - Cold War over.
oooh. Blast from the past at 2:53; I remember seeing those big yellow handheld radiation measuring devices (the actual word escapes me at the moment,argh) in all the 50's and 60's civil defense films.
I don't recall it being called that, specifically. I remember watching one of the films where the two kids are at home and the Civil Defense guy comes to knock on their door,the little sister asks him what it is....I think he said something else, but I might've also been thinking about that other device they'd wear to measure how much total radiation they'd been exposed to. Yeah, you're probably right.
"There's not going to be enough food and water for rusty."
Not to mention when he pees & poops.
Then there's the guys at the University - they've just been nuked, but they're fiddling with old radios and even climbing on the roof to measure the radiation. How about them nerds, eh?
If someone else is transmitting they can get news of the outside world, like where nukes had and hadn't hit, whether the National Guard or military were setting up shelters, supplies, etc. The Geiger counter mounting was probably a suicide mission, but it lets them know how concentrated the fallout is at any given time.
In many different scenes during this section, there looks to be like "snow" falling. Is this the impact of a "nuclear winter" where there is so much nuclear debris in the air from an all-out nuclear war, that much of the sunlight begins to be blocked out from entering the atmosphere?
It's not snow, it's ash. I've been near, well at least in the general vicinity of, huge forest fires, and there is a continual rain of grey and white ash.
I'm going to disagree you. Its not ash,its fallout.Radioactive dust that falls after a nuclear bomb explodes.The dust emitting alpha,beta, and gamma radiation that can kill you over a long period of time.
Fallout is made up of primarily ash (from the enormous firestorms), dust (sucked up by the explosion), and whatever miscellaneous bits of fluff also happened to be stirred up into the air and made radioactive. Dust and ash are barely distinguishable as it is. Dust falls from the air as a fine powder, ash falls in mostly small to medium sized "flakes." Ash looks more like snow. Anyway, ALL of it sucks when you're on the receiving end of it.
At 1:29, look at the thick blanket of clouds in the sky. Maybe those are natural, but I wonder if that is the "radioactive" blanket of ash, dust, and other particles that are part of the nuclear fallout of the atomic bomb detonation. And if enough of this was in the atmosphere worldwide based on the # of bombs detonated and the megatons of each bomb, could this potentially lead to a "nuclear winter"?
whats about austria?
TheBob9011 2 weeks ago in playlist Weitere Videos von lothartheterrible
@TheBob9011 Austria would deal with the secondary effects of the conflict.
lothartheterrible 2 weeks ago
From 2:00 to 2:56 wish I had some of that old radio gear ! Could come in handy someday !
ppspsd 3 weeks ago
Rusty is now a 200 ft mutated catdog..best to leave him outside
kaptkarl 1 month ago
The hard part of this segement is seeing them try to carry on as normal but we know everything will unravel from here. To be fair, the citizens in Lawrence don't know the attack is everywhere just yet...but still you know taking care of that many people in the hospital is futile. Of course you can make the arguement they have to try anyway.
ClearSmashDrop 2 months ago
@EntomologyPurdue Then you have a peculiar sense of humor.
lothartheterrible 2 months ago
@EntomologyPurdue Theoretically possible, provided that the animals had some sort of shelter from fallout.
lothartheterrible 2 months ago
@EntomologyPurdue It can be assumed that they looked just as bad.
lothartheterrible 2 months ago
what an ass, he didnt even let the dog in
Storm7289 3 months ago in playlist Nuclear Holocaust Theatre
3:11
"It comes."
Darkest line I've ever heard. Never heard anything more sobering than that and the click of the counter.
ChaationBergin 5 months ago
To think there are actually nut job leaders in the world who would actually launch missiles and do something like this. Are we just insane as a race or what.
heartfire451 5 months ago
Dios, esto seria terrible. El hombre deberia preocuparse mas por utilizar la tecnologia en cosas constructivas, no que destruyan.
Una guerra nuclear seria lo as estupido, pues nos estariamos autodestruyendo.
JACOBS431 5 months ago
Daddy, how long will we have to stay down here? I admit it, I've got a dark sense of humor, because that made me laugh. Only until you die of lack of potable water, kid, so hang in there until then.
grnhair2001 5 months ago
The first part of this clip is like the beginning of a PSA.
UltimateJimmy47 5 months ago
I wonder if the survivors put ash trays and empty soda bottles in mailboxes for futures wanderers to find.
Anarchist86ed 6 months ago
@Anarchist86ed No, they'd put bottlecaps instead
UltimateJimmy47 5 months ago
RUSTY!! NOOOOOOO
Hklasda98 6 months ago
why is it in 240p
Thehumornetwork 6 months ago
@Thehumornetwork Fuck you, that's why. You want higher resolution, upload it yourself.
lothartheterrible 6 months ago 16
@lothartheterrible harsh.
chunli73 5 months ago
@lothartheterrible ha!
dlr1241 5 months ago
@lothartheterrible LOL :D
architecturalabdabs 3 months ago
Who know just some 8 tons of uranium could end civilization
INMATE2468 7 months ago
I have that geiger counter!
belmarfilms 7 months ago
they will get radiation posining
urantiruslan 7 months ago
i remember watching this when i was little.... of course it had its desired effect: to keep everyone in a constant state of fear.
deadline27 8 months ago
Recently I watched Threads, and the striking thing is the portrayal of the survivors. In Threads, the survivors are nearly silent and quickly revert to animalistic behavior. In this film, people pull together and attempt to recreate quickly.
mooncat1965 8 months ago
@mooncat1965 Which is one area that I think this film has it over Threads. Anybody who has seen people pull together in the wake of a disaster knows that it's in our nature to try to help one another hold on to the familiar. Threads is a very brilliant film, but it completely omitted the phase where people would try to band together. It would ultimately be futile, but I do believe that we would at least try.
lothartheterrible 6 months ago
@lothartheterrible I think that depends on the type of society. In Japan for example people were brilliant after the earthquake and fukushima, but they were brought up to respect one another and be patient I believe. I dread to thing what would happen over here in the same situation, people start a brawl over who was first in queue at the bl**dy ice cream van.
maybeaspie38 3 months ago
@maybeaspie38 Well, to a degree that may be accurate. But there were also the people of Joplin, MO pulling together in the wake of a massive tornado, and the collective nation's reaction to September 11.
lothartheterrible 2 months ago
"We have to protect ourselves from the fallout..."
"What FOR."
Truer words...
USSManhattan 9 months ago 2
i like that film.
I dedicate this film to Passarinho Santos. ♥
TheBoo483 10 months ago
ironicly it would have been a good idea to keep the dog alive, for both protection and hunting,
DaytonaRoadster 11 months ago
@DaytonaRoadster hunting what? mutant, radiated rabbits?
zatoth13 7 months ago
@zatoth13 um, real life isnt Fallout 3, some animals would have still be relativley safe to eat for a while, Wild Animals, not farm ones.
DaytonaRoadster 7 months ago
You know when we think of rads the very things that make us "advanced beings" also doom us our internal skeleton with the marrow etc. is extremely sensative to the rads pity.
Tragar12 11 months ago
You can't see it, you can't feel it and you can't taste it. But it's here and it's going right through your cells like an x ray.
antidiz 11 months ago
As terrifying as this movie is to watch (it aired a month after I was born!), there's one thing that popped in my mind once I saw the aftermath:
"This movie is canon history to Fist of the North Star."
ThInTrM 1 year ago
I remember when this first aired. I was 6 years old and my mother sent me to bed earlier than usual that night. Being a bit stubborn, I watched from around the corner and had full view of the nuclear scene. I wont ever forget that. Then as I got older I learned about Able Archer in September 1983 and realized just how close we really were,etc. Crazy.
ashland1977 1 year ago
...shit just got real folks....
zenithomega19 1 year ago
So horrible and scary to this day.
WCWite 1 year ago
When the nuclear winter comes almost all plants and animals will be dead within 6 months.
-When the skies clear in a year or two you would still be screwed.
-ozone layer will be almost destroyed
-survivors exposed to leathal levels of radiation
-starvation
-3 generations or more for nature to recover
It wouldn't matter where on the planet you were.
poodtang1 1 year ago
@poodtang1 Try reading "Nuclear War Survival Skills" by Cresson H. Kearny that might change your mind
oilrigs1973 1 year ago
@poodtang1 Read "the Road"....sucks to be alive, unless you're a cannibal.
liveecarbme 1 year ago
FUCK THAT....ground zero i'd be...
DartsRme312 1 year ago
Gosh, can't burn the wood that has been exposed to radiation. Sheesh, taking notes. lol
native4life4eva 1 year ago
And then... Skynet makes it's move!
Waxer3929 1 year ago 2
These guys are comming out for a breath of "fresh air" waaay too soon.
konman001 1 year ago
Flash forward 1000 years and the world is run by apes, and a select group in the ruins of New York City worship the bomb.. no change then.
profbaldwin77 1 year ago
Just imagine what McCoy's thinking and feeling when he crawls out of that truck, knowing that the radiation is so extreme. He can even see the fallout drifting down in little clumps of grey ash. He knows it'll get inside him and burn him away to nothing, but what else is he supposed to do?
launch4 1 year ago
Theres high radiation in the air, they wont survive long. It goes through everything
livkivi 1 year ago
Nuclear winter lets go sledding! Oh, wait...
STMAswimmer 1 year ago
@STMAswimmer LOL...
antidiz 1 year ago
Seems to me the worst thing about the aftermath of a nuclear war is famine. Food and water would be scarce, and likely all contaminated by fallout. People would become desperate enough to kill others for their food. Surviving farmers would see their livelihoods end, their crops and livestock destroyed or stolen. Newly planted crops would not survive in contaminated soil, nor without rain, thanks to nuclear winter. Farmers wouldn't be able to feed their own families, let alone a decimated nation.
Akira625 1 year ago
Well, time to take stock of things. The power is off. The heat is off. And the water is off, which means that the toilet doesn't flush. The phone isn't working either. And it is NOT coming back on. Ever. Not in our lifetimes, anyway. But maybe it WILL come back on during our descendants' lifetimes a few centuries or millennia from now. IF they can ever rediscover how it USED to work. Lots of luck!
rayandreina 1 year ago
Take a deep breath. Breathe in those alpha particles you dumbass. LOL
Oheeeoh 1 year ago
@Oheeeoh it is most likely gamma rays
TheFlames7 1 year ago
MAD- Mutual Assured Destruction. probably the only reason we are still here today.
mervin352 1 year ago
@mervin352 "Nice story, tell it to Reader's Digest!"
InAGaddaDaVida29 1 year ago 2
Actually the EMP effect was first noticed by Americans during the late 1950's when a nuclear warhead was detonated near (but not close) to Hawaii in the atmosphere. It fried the circuits for the radio broadcasts. They had to be replaced. Check it out in the documentary "Trinity and Beyond." Also, many of the big banks now have EMP protection for their computers. They place them in basement vaults and have EMP protectors. This movie may have been their motivation to do it.
Gideonoslo2 1 year ago
I suggest searching Google Video for a movie called "Special Bulliten". It was done in the mid 80's and is actually still relelvant today. It deals with homegrown terrorism with nuclear implications. It's unique in that it was shot on video so it looks like a regular news cast. Only a few other shows (after this one of course) did it. It's what made me go hunt for other shows like this.
LordOz1979 1 year ago
I love the the movie by BBC called Nuclear War in Britain. It´s a pitty that the ones who might have a place to hide from the radiation are the same ones who plan wars.
33agnusdei 1 year ago 8
@33agnusdei The name of that film is actually "Threads"; it was reposted under that generic name after YouTube removed it. And of course they are; that's how it works.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@lothartheterrible correctt and quite chiliing
markstar777 1 year ago
If you just breath in the radioactive dust, youre fucking dead. Nuke fights...no one wins.
labartic 1 year ago
after watching this movie. buy VOLVO
quarf53206 1 year ago
the dude with the blanket reminds me of ET. ( :
OreoRainLaLa 1 year ago 2
So in this movie, only Kansas City was hit?? I'm confused.
JonasBrosFan17 1 year ago
@JonasBrosFan17 No, it was a nationwide exchange. The story is set in KC therefore it is where the focus stays.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@lothartheterrible Kansas City, Sedalia(whiteman afb) and a bunch of silos all up and down the plains. If he wants a complete list, just name off every major city in the US and Russia. This whole movie starts out with the Russians pissing in our pool so to speak.
MasterJediKyleKatarn 1 year ago
personally, if a nuclear bomb fell, I would prefer to be right in the ground zero of the blast, rather than suffering with the effects of radiation.
ALX11231 1 year ago
@ALX11231 I would prefer to survive. If things got really really bad, I could always kill myself, but survival would be my first choice. I don't belive in movies like "The Beach", where everybody dies. There would be lots of survivors, and even lots of countries and large areas that were untouched. Radiation isn't eternal and the world wouldn't disappear.
MysticPanic 1 year ago
@MysticPanic What I mean is if it fell near me, if I was in another country I *would* try to survive, but being, say, a few miles away where the radiation would be terrible, but not immediately lethal would be worse than being at ground zero.
ALX11231 1 year ago
@MysticPanic Are vyou really sure?? With thousands of nuclear warheads on both sides?? Maybe Earth would not explode, but jetstreams and radioactive fall out would reach every single place in the world... Anyway, i agree with you about surviving...
jimsy73 1 year ago
1:35 The Weather Man didn't say anything about a Nuclear Winter happening in September.
jdmifsud14 1 year ago 2
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FredAstaire76 Get a life. WMD's were and are in Iraq. According to the UN assault rifles ARE a WMD. The US courts consider the AK and variants as WMDs. Now if you want to talk about NBC weapons that is a different matter, but don't act a fool throwing around WMDs as a general term. Do a little research.
Photog199 1 year ago
On more than one occasion leading up to the invasion of Iraq, Bush mentioned "chemical and biological" weapons. Your jab would have effect if the "WMD's" Bush alluded to had indeed been inferred to be guns.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago 15
@Photog199 Satellite photos showed a military convoy just before we invaded, and soldiers DID find containers that had the ingredients to make chemical and biological weapons. The leftist controlled media played the situation down. Bottom line, the media for the most part can't be trusted to warn us if we are in danger because they are too busy pushing political rhetoric for their puppet masters.
TitaniumByFire 1 year ago
@Photog199
And since when has the United Nations EVER been credible?
8rate 1 year ago
@Photog199 so it was ok in your eyes to go to war over assault rifles
quarf53206 1 year ago
@Photog199 We did not go to war over assault rifles. Get real, dude.
gsaum 1 year ago
@gsaum Right words...
jimsy73 1 year ago
@gsaum you are right! we went to war over bullshit!
josephhatchett 1 year ago
@josephhatchett Watch Have You Forgotten by Darryl Worley then say that again.
AbRamskiller41 1 year ago
@AbRamskiller41 Some sappy country song will not take away the knowledge of the fact that Saddam Hussein and Iraq had exactly jack shit to do with 9/11. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to hear that, on September 12, 2001, Dubya held a meeting and asked, "Okay; how can we pin this on Saddam?" Afghanistan was the right call; the Taliban were harboring terrorists. But Iraq? That was a pissing contest.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago 3
@lothartheterrible I would like you to explain, then, why the various national and international nuclear regulatory agencies were moving silver casks with radiation symbols and "fissile material" labels out of places in Iraq called "Yellowcake"...
Hvygunner 1 year ago
@Hvygunner Yeah, yellowcake is not weapons-grade uranium. It is an intermediary fissile product. I admire the effort, but you fall short. Iraq was closer to putting a man on the moon than it was to having a functioning nuke.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago 4
keep the dog... good eatin' after a few weeks of rations!
witchelemental 1 year ago
George Bush was a complete asshole. Where was those WMDs that he was ragging on about back in 2003?
FredAstaire76 1 year ago
I think the actor who is playing the role of soldier really was convincing in the aftermath. the way you see himm emerging from his makeshift shelter with the blanket. his movements and expressions really convinces me that he is already deforming due to the radiation. the music, the surroundings really gave a the impression of hell on earth and solitude.
darkskythe 1 year ago
they need to make a new one of these about biological warfare.
foxhanson 1 year ago
the EMP fucked everyone over
XxgangstakidxX 1 year ago
better start building your bomb shelter, thats what we did back in the 1950's.
I remember my dad had a booklet telling how to build one, but we never did build it.
whiskeyify 1 year ago
@whiskeyify Yeah, which is only helpful if you weren't in the city...
eddievhfan1984 1 year ago
Agreed Anthony, With Iran, Israel, Pakistan and India having or trying to get the bomb and Russia getting very defensive of NATO trying to expand A regional conflict could escalate to full blown war. I think a new release of this movie or of Threads should be done for this generation to be aware of the potential threat.
bjboedy 1 year ago
The threat of a nuclear war today is more prevalent than it was in the 1980's. The USA & USSR knew there was a lot to lose. Today countries like Iran and it's leaders ambitions could start a new arms race in the most unstable part of the world. It would only be a matter of time before the whole world would be effected, one way or another.
anthonyAJR 1 year ago
I have amessage for all you who think nuclear war is not a threat and that movies like this are emotionalism...
I just came from a state meeting of Emergency Management, FEMA and local Red Cross leaders. They have NO CLUE as to how to prepapre for nuclear attack.
Get your home prepared. Decide if you want to survive an attack (leave the city) or die and be done with it (stay in the city). This is the choice to be made before all others. Do you really want to live in the aftermath. Some do.
pshinspections 1 year ago
Jim: We're gonna have to get used to things being a lot different.
Jolene: How so?
Jim: Well, I looked at the script, and Steve Guttenberg is gonna move in with us soon.
Danny: BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
jmossinca 2 years ago 7
Somehow...Black Sabbath comes up at this time.
slightreturn3589 2 years ago
Yeah, dude, no kidding. I remember War Pigs and Electric funeral.
lsnows 2 years ago
Everybody seems so calm, and so uninformed. Haven't they been watching the news? Were they just COMPLETELY UNAWARE there was a nuclear war coming?
spershall 2 years ago
@spershall I think the movie makers got this right. Mr. Dahlberg is an example of someone who knew this was possible, and prepared. Thus he does not die directly because of nuclear attack.
While the vast majority seem to have been unaware or in disbelife i.e. the old doctor who said "were not that crazy".
Back at that time there were people like most of the comments here reflect who think "unsurvivable" nuclear war means wherever you are you will be vaporized. no so, unfortunately.
BrendaQG 2 years ago 4
p.s. time to get clothes for the nuclear winter ^_~
wyattbbb 2 years ago
Damn that EMP sucks. If one of those went off today...shit
jmoney13000 2 years ago 5
Ya lol, everything that our military operates on is electronic.
cobalt40nuke 2 years ago
makes you wonder, was the war really worth it?
NewJack05 2 years ago 5
No! next question.
Thelistener60 2 years ago
1.27 better question for the future "what's inbreeding"?
locheelad2 2 years ago 7
@locheelad2
bwhahahhahaha
clergame 1 year ago
Flounder !
oldpreach 2 years ago 2
Yes! Transferred to U of Kansas after getting kicked out of Faber with the rest of the Animal House.
riceboy1701e 2 years ago 3
Yeah, and died a horrible death from radiation poisoning !
oldpreach 2 years ago
it is a pretty old movie but i really enjoyed it thanks for posting it up bro
skibicki357 2 years ago
even tho there is people still alive alot the absense of law and order we will see gangs pop up all over and mass killing will happen so people still alive wouldnt still have a chanse
warth4546 2 years ago
Survival of the fittest. Grab a gun and take what you need from the weak.... or die
PhatFarm60 2 years ago 2
Just proves that man is part of the evolutionary process sorry for you Christians out there.
Thelistener60 2 years ago
Wow, yes, man is a spiritless beast. You are so right. The depths of your pseudo-intellectual prowess knows no bounds. And your arrogance is exemplary. Good for you!
stableshadow 2 years ago 2
I take that as a back handed comment which it is. Well atheists can make comments you know about this TV film. You believe in what you think is right and I believe in what I know is to be right. Mind you saying that, have you ever conisdered the possibility that people who believe so strongly that there is a God can also be arrogant.?
Thelistener60 2 years ago
> have you ever considered the possibility that people who believe so strongly that there is a God can also be arrogant?
Have you ever considered the possibility that God is offended by people who can be so arrogant?
robertsez 2 years ago
@robertsez Have you considered possibility that gods don't even exist?
Milrisaron 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Which "gods?" Do you mean the Mormon god, or the Muslin god that Barack Obama worships?
robertsez 1 year ago
First of all, "muslin" is a fabric, a "muslim" is a follower of Islam. Second, Barack Obama has been a Christian for most of his adult life; his mother had no particular religion and his father, though raised a Muslim, had abandoned the faith by adulthood.
And yes, you are free to voice your silly opinions under the Constitution, but that means I am just as free to rebut them.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago 25
More so Lothar, what would it matter if Obama was a Muslim?
It would matter only to bigots.
mongoose704 1 year ago 6
Unfortunately bigotry often has a loud mouth.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago 2
ANY gods: Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Pagan etc.
Milrisaron 1 year ago
@robertsez -- OH FFS ... Cfriticize Obama as he deserves for being a pawn of the PTB, gutless bought-and-paid-for Wall Street patsy & puppet-man for the Military Security Industrial Complex -- JUST as Bush 43, Clinton, Reagan & Bush 41 were -- But to say he's 'Muslim' just shows your true faux-Republican rascist-bigot colors. You have NO more moral courage or intellectual integrity than he does. It's hilarious, in your delusion you think you're a principled Patriot -- you're just a pawn too.
starmanskye 1 year ago 2
@robertsez ah i see the crazies are out in good numbers today
leonwoodford 1 year ago
There was a scene cut from the original script which featured John Lithgow's character leading the science students (Flounder et al) in a hand-to-hand battle against another group of students (mostly athletes) over dwindling food supplies. ABC forced it to be cut.
brucearmstrong1 2 years ago 2
the war game
yuditilany 2 years ago
If we want to start making a list of unrealistic stuff in american cinematography... god help us
daoldstyler 2 years ago
At initial moment of detonation, an atomic bomb detonates at ten times the surface temperature of the Sun.
When it detonates as an airburst, it literally forms a temporary Sun, perfectly round in shape. Basically, about the scariest thing in the history of the earth.... :P
dimitraeus202 2 years ago 2
what about Vanilla Ice ??? ;P
g4ce1732 2 years ago
Fine line between "scariest" and "most ridiculous".
lothartheterrible 2 years ago
"Threads" was pretty realistic, actually, you have to factor in the traditional incompetency of British governments, poor infrastructure, and poverty of the British working class. Even today, large segments of British population are very poor and under educated, compared to the EU average.
NorceCodine 2 years ago
You've obviously never been to Appalachia mate.
matthewbird76 2 years ago
Yeah, obviously America is also not exactly a model of organization and discipline, but at least the people know that they are on their own, because their government doesn't give a damn about them.
NorceCodine 2 years ago
The first and , in many ways, best of these movies was "The War Game" (it's on Utube) The BBC banned it when it first
was released. It exposed the lies about, and showed the futility of, Civil Defence. I got hold of a copy of it and showed it at my school's Film Club. A neighbouring school joined us. When it was over everyone sat in stunned silence for ages. One of the most shocking scenes was of British policemen taking part in firing squads to shoot looters.
mikelheron20 2 years ago
Agreed. The War Game is class.
lothartheterrible 2 years ago
I agree, I'm a fan of this movie (watching highlights of it here as my DVD collection is currently packed away) but "the War Game" and "Threads" are even better.
BillyIsATwat23 2 years ago
Another scene that got me was when people were shown dying from asphyxiation trying to fight the terrible firestorm. This to me was intense. I have The War Game with Colluden. Very well done and ahead of it's time.
pbonney 2 years ago
true. he would have been toasted in there.
WaterHawk13 2 years ago
so unrealistic that old dude survives just by duckin' in a car.
atlanticl 2 years ago
Perfectly believable if he was far enough outside of the blast zone.
lothartheterrible 2 years ago
it's a Volvo...
qpropaganda 2 years ago 6
@atlanticl Well it WAS a Volvo.
KarenEngelhardt 1 year ago
At 1:34 - Might that a reused Matte painting from the early 70's film "Earthquake"? I know movie backgrounds etc. were meticulously painted before CAD and programs like Adobe and Corel came into being.
rennyminou 2 years ago
If the electronic is powered up or has power during an emp it will most likely fry but if off with no power at all it has a better chance.
oc5nsli341nforce4 2 years ago
2:11 a vacuum tube radio. An electronic device least vulnerable to EMP.
Jonhny2 2 years ago 4
0:00- 0:04
is that a body?
M0kopuu 2 years ago 2
Looks like one.
Nicecatholicgirl 2 years ago
fuck that!, my dog is like my daughter...
Burnz2much 2 years ago 3
At 7:23, one of the medical staff is smoking a cigarette. I just had to gauk... there is a national emergency going on and someone needs a smoke break.
MTheChequeGuy 2 years ago
i wouldnt stop smoking if this would happen
MacsWagner 2 years ago 2
smoking is dangerous for your health, inhaling of tobacco tar can lead to cancer...
but since radioactive dust is everywhere, I wouldn't care much
aleclitvinov 2 years ago 3
Trust me if this happened, you'd be a smoker too.
EAxisVideos 2 years ago 7
I just found it funny. A medical professional smoking in a hospital...
MTheChequeGuy 2 years ago
When I was having a tonsilectomy in 1969 or 1970 (thereabouts) I can recall both doctors and nurses smoking in hospital. The Sister in charge of the floor I was on ALWAYS smoked.
Kenn1965 2 years ago
Yeah! In more ways than one!
LakotaDreams 2 years ago
Yeah the nerve of someone in a Nuclear War situation feeling nervous or anxious.
Crazydog7 2 years ago 3
it's ironic, i know.
M0kopuu 2 years ago
Remember, it was 1983 after all. People didn't take the view of smoking then that they hold now.
Kenn1965 2 years ago
That's exactly my point. The times in which we live have changed so much since the taping of this film. No one would even think of doing that now.
MTheChequeGuy 2 years ago
YES...I had it on DVD. Better in many ways... I remember when it came out, my parents wouldn't let me watch it. Historically, 'The Day After' had more of an effect - apparently, the day after Regan sat down to watch it - he changed his mind completely - Cold War over.
upsided1 2 years ago
oooh. Blast from the past at 2:53; I remember seeing those big yellow handheld radiation measuring devices (the actual word escapes me at the moment,argh) in all the 50's and 60's civil defense films.
SoundShinobiYuki 2 years ago
Geiger counter.
lothartheterrible 2 years ago
I don't recall it being called that, specifically. I remember watching one of the films where the two kids are at home and the Civil Defense guy comes to knock on their door,the little sister asks him what it is....I think he said something else, but I might've also been thinking about that other device they'd wear to measure how much total radiation they'd been exposed to. Yeah, you're probably right.
SoundShinobiYuki 2 years ago
They're also called "particle detectors".
lothartheterrible 2 years ago
@SoundShinobiYuki it is a geiger counter
TheFlames7 1 year ago
A cure? The ash in the atmosphere would block out the sun for a months to year. Nuclear winter is freezing, not just cold. Nothing can grow.
swinggalwa 2 years ago
"There's not going to be enough food and water for rusty."
Not to mention when he pees & poops.
Then there's the guys at the University - they've just been nuked, but they're fiddling with old radios and even climbing on the roof to measure the radiation. How about them nerds, eh?
hognoxious 2 years ago
If someone else is transmitting they can get news of the outside world, like where nukes had and hadn't hit, whether the National Guard or military were setting up shelters, supplies, etc. The Geiger counter mounting was probably a suicide mission, but it lets them know how concentrated the fallout is at any given time.
lsudolemite 2 years ago
In many different scenes during this section, there looks to be like "snow" falling. Is this the impact of a "nuclear winter" where there is so much nuclear debris in the air from an all-out nuclear war, that much of the sunlight begins to be blocked out from entering the atmosphere?
wizeman5974 2 years ago
It's not snow, it's ash. I've been near, well at least in the general vicinity of, huge forest fires, and there is a continual rain of grey and white ash.
GammyGoose 2 years ago 3
I'm going to disagree you. Its not ash,its fallout.Radioactive dust that falls after a nuclear bomb explodes.The dust emitting alpha,beta, and gamma radiation that can kill you over a long period of time.
mynameiscerny2 2 years ago 4
Fallout is made up of primarily ash (from the enormous firestorms), dust (sucked up by the explosion), and whatever miscellaneous bits of fluff also happened to be stirred up into the air and made radioactive. Dust and ash are barely distinguishable as it is. Dust falls from the air as a fine powder, ash falls in mostly small to medium sized "flakes." Ash looks more like snow. Anyway, ALL of it sucks when you're on the receiving end of it.
GammyGoose 2 years ago 6
Bravo GammyGoose.
Couldn't have said it any other way.
mynameiscerny2 2 years ago
At 1:29, look at the thick blanket of clouds in the sky. Maybe those are natural, but I wonder if that is the "radioactive" blanket of ash, dust, and other particles that are part of the nuclear fallout of the atomic bomb detonation. And if enough of this was in the atmosphere worldwide based on the # of bombs detonated and the megatons of each bomb, could this potentially lead to a "nuclear winter"?
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