Still. One of the best movies ever made. Some of the very best acting as well. Not to mention, the Script. The straight truth about society and the world that has evolved is a scary thing to own up to. John Doe's insanity couldn't have been more sane in methodical action logic. He just had a problem with his delivery. Here's to one of the greatest thought provoking and conversational afterthought movies ever!
yeah he talks about how awful his victims are when he has never contributed in society in any way only by killing people in fucked up ways far worse than any crimes his victims had done. i was not in awe of this man at all he didnt suck me ine i just wanted to fuckin torture the living crap out of him whcih i know makes me as bad as him but fuck him
This movie, this scene actually, gives me chills every time I watch it. Kevin Spacey has such passion in his work. Such dedication. I love his work. Beautiful.
Ending was pretty obvious. You knew it wasn't just going to be two more random dead bodies out in the middle of the desert, it was obviously a trick. My thought was the last two bodies would be Mills and Sommerset because he'd find some way to make them jealous/angry. Still a great ending though
this movie is about the morality of religion vs the morality of secularism, and the apathy of the general public who suffer the outcome of that conflict, john doe believes that killing is justified because the victims violated religious law, the cops believe that johns murders are the worst crimes possible because compare to what he did the offenses of his victims seem benign
David - "John. Calm down, I seem to remember us knocking on your door. " - John - "Oh, that's right, and I seem to remember breaking your face. " Ha ha, wo-hoe. Lookout buddy!! Hostile much.
Spacey won the Oscar for Usual Suspects, but je should've also been nominated for this performance. Because the creepy thing is in some deep dark corner of your mind you find yourself agreeing with John. Maybe not his actions,but certainly his views. This movie came out two years after rach Dravidian,and we had seen firsthand what ultra-fundamentalism could lead to.
the guy just decided that he'd not stand for certain behaviours in society and that he would o to enormous lengths to destroy the people engaging in these activities and by doing so he's putting a value on people's lives and he's judging them. His story does not hold up: if he's chosen then that must mean he has no ability to judge, since he's the tool of a higher entity. it's just another excuse for what he's done and he's telling them all this so he can get brad Pitt's character angry.
The tension through this whole scene was just unerving, it sent chills down my spine. I mean i actually thought that anything could've happened, Like an alien could've popped out of his head for all i know. I kept on thinking mills and summerset were going to be the other deadly sins.
@voltex12345 Sloth guy was the "drug-dealing pederast" that he mentioned in his rant. And I think it was one year of the bed-bound torture, not seven.
What's really interesting in the film is that Somerset's views of the world are a lot closer to John Doe's than to his partner Mills. The difference is the reaction, Somerset wants to retire and run away to live the rest of his life quietly whereas John Doe exacts some retribution on the world both he and Somerset see as terrible.
brilliant movie, i only wish johny dep would star in it too so all my fav actors would be in it.Its true there are many wrong things in this world, sin all around us and if you try to change that- you go to jail
@Claxiux that whole statement he made was sarcastic, "biting your time, toying with me, 5 innocent people", none of those things did he actually believe were true
@Claxiux If you listen to the way he pronounces "innocent" at 4:02 you can clearly catch a hint of taunting sarcasm...which makes this scene that much better!
@probertisking4 how about you sit on your fist & rotate! Quite sure it was most of ur inbred cousins on HLN whining about her climb down from your damn soapbox ingrate!!
I dedicate this awesome scene to both Jose'Baez (the lawyer) & Casey Anthony & EVERY slutty murdering Mom and the FILTH that defends them! Hell is Orlando FL.
@TnUt00bLvr do something about it or shut the fuck up. nobody except fat, retarded soccer moms care about casey anthony and they only care because some fat, retarded soccer mom on tv told them to care
i don't get the gluttony part .. so you should kill somebody because he is fat ?? btw i'm not fat .. but every person likes something .. and there are people like to eat .. and don't forget there are bodies getting fat faster than the others
@Manschaft13Legend The lesson of the seven deadly sins is about the dangers of succumbing to your vices. The point is that gluttony is a sin of excess, and a sin of wasteful consumption. He didn't need that much food to live, but he ate it anyway while others starved around him. That's the danger of gluttony preached by sermons on the deadly sins. Read up more if you're still confused. Part of really liking this film is really understanding what's going on here.
@Manschaft13Legend The bad guy says he's the most hideous person he's ever seen. It's only bad because being not-fat is actually really easy if you don't have a gland thing.
@drifter6276 I'm not saying I agree with him. I'm saying I understand his point of view. Characters like Jason kill random for some random reason (in Jason's case, his mom was killed). It's scary because you don't understand it. This is scary because if this guy got to you first, you'd agree with him.
If the guy asked me, I'd tell him that he's out of his fucking mind. Everyone thinks they have a good reason. Hitler thought he had a good reason. Al Qaeda terrorists think they're getting 72 virgins when they walk into a building full of innocent people wearing an explosive vest. How many mass murderers use religion to justify their lunacy? Their only way of finding salvation is by harming others, which explains their contempt for the world and their sick way of dealing with it.
@drifter6276 Even though his reason is freaking insane, you can see how he came to that conclusion. You understand that he feels what he's doing is right, even though you know he's crazy and wrong. Much like the mass murderers you mentioned.
Heavy shit here, been watching this vid for months now lol!
Among 3 of my favorite actors in a car with no bullshit CGI special effects, just epic dialogue worth it's weight in gold....It gets no better...
Up to this point, you'd think that John Doe is just a sick fuck until this speech, then you realize he's actually on a higher moral ground then pitt and freeman. What he speaks of here delves in the sewers that is the morals of society....
@benwilzing I love that part too, it's so true and gives me an unexplaneable feeling when hearing it. I'd like to get a tattoo in reference to this speech
@benwilzing Not right, he just knows there's no point in arguing with a madman who has a twisted, depraved outlook on the world and himself. Every act of evil can be justified by some kind of insane reasoning.
Um homem inocente, que teve sua vida destruida pela inveja, onde ele teria de se tornar a inevitavel Ira, um ato tão horrendo que a Ira seria quase impossivel de não ser praticada.
Depois disso eu escolhi o advogado e vocês 2 deveriam mais do que me agradecer por essa, esse é um homem que dedicou sua vida para fazer dinheiro, contando mentiras até seu último suspiro, para mantêr assassinos e estupradores nas ruas.
Um homem obeso, um homem repugnante que mau consiguia se levantar, um homem que se você o visse na rua apontaria para seus amigos para se ajuntar e humilha-lo, um homem que se você o visse enquanto estivesse se alimentando não conseguiria terminar sua refeição.
Everyone seems to love Spacey in this scene, i do too BUT I love Freeman more in this scene, he knows something is not right...plus he knows how to work and pull the strings of Spacey's character
@ostime14 Because in his mind, he thinks or is hoping, that Sommoerset will shoot Mills after he shoots John. So he is talking to Sommerset when he says" Everytime you look in the mirror at that face of yours for the rest of your life." He is looking at Sommerset through the mirror when he says it, not Mills.
Sorry but that makes no sense. Somerset wouldn't kill mills for killing John Doe. He's looking at Somerset in the mirror while talking to mills.. It's more like his looking at Somerset saying "Look at how I'm screwing with your partner."
I once saw a clip from an old movie with a conversation very similar to this. But I have no idea what the movie is... can anyone tell me? (I think the clip was on one of those 100 best horror movie specials, but I'm not positive about that either)
Gweneth Paltrow was innocent but Kevin spaceys sin was envy (of mills and his life) so he makes brad kill him to become wrath the last two sins envy and wrath.
His work? He claims God forced his hand into martyrdom? So Morgan Freemans point went unanswered....Martyrs arent sposed to enjoy killing for God..hiow stupid that is anyway that Martyrs really exist...Their called " Muslims".....
He contradicts himself. "Oh really? So, what were you doing? Biding your time? Toying with me? Allowing five innocent people to die until you felt like springing your trap?" Then later he argues that they were not innocent.
@Fishilisation He doesn't contradict himself. He's using the word "innocent" as a way of driving his point home, that the detectives were never just on the verge of catching him, as Mills seems to be suggesting. The word doesn't mean anything to Doe, but it does to Mills, and by using it, it makes Mills assertion that much more ridiculous.
I really like how they keep pwning John Doe verbally. I really dislike when villains make these Hannibal lectures and the protagonist just starts believing every word he says. So it's enjoyable to see them just go "nope." or even point out the flaws in his arguments.
@LionelMessi1337 I don't think they're "pwning " Doe at all. Mills certainly isn't. In fact, Mills pretty much loses his cool towards the end, letting Doe get the better of his emotions. Any flaw in Doe's plan that they try to point out to him, he easily swats away. The clip is a bit abbreviated, but by the end, Doe has a smug smile on his face. He's now completely in control.
@scarryterry I agree that Mills loses his cool at the end, but so did Doe initially, when he starts ranting about his victims, among them the lawyer and Mills says "Murderers such as yourself".
Let's not forget how Somerset points out the flaw in his whole "I was chosen" thing. Doe never countered that.
It's not in this video but there was also the moment when Mills said that nobody is going to remember Doe's act a week later and nobody will care (unlike Doe believes). And we know that's true.
Lol ''masturbating in your own feces''. I've actually seen MILLIONS of videos on the internet (where else?..) of people masturbating with their own shit. xD
Fat, obviously, because of too much food, that food or the money to buy it could be spent on less fortunate people, who don't have enough money or even chance to get nutrition.
The woman, obsessed with her own looks, which he considers being ungrateful for what you already have. Instead she couldn't live a normal life because of her intraverted mindset.
He's an extremist but I think he's right about peoples' inflated egos.
@MaybeYesNo90 Thanks man , for the reply. I think he needs more than psychotherapy. What do you say for the killing Mills wife and her baby inside her ?
@sehzadelee I certainly don't sympathize for John Doe, his morals aren't questionable at all. He may be right about how society is blind to the sins we make on a daily basis, like he says, it's become common. But his excuse for committing the murders is very questionable, that he was chosen by The Lord... That's where he starts to look like a religious extremist to me. Continued...
@sehzadelee If he is indeed a christian and believes in a higher power, why judge these people for himself and act it out by killing them? We're all flawed but that doesn't mean it's up to us to judge life or death. I think John was right in some ways but if God does exist, than there'd be no reason for John Doe to kill these people i.e. what he did was wrong, and from our POV he might be insane.
Sorry if I write way too much, it's a "nice weakness" I sometimes have :)
@MaybeYesNo90 i guess what he was trying to do creating a domino effect by showing the ugly side of our society and the way to solve these problems (7 sins) , as he said in this scene 'when people comprehend what i have done , its going to be puzzled over , studied and followed.. ' I guess he made himself believe that he was a kind of prophet who is assigned to eliminate sins in the society.
@manulito2 Actually it kinda makes it seem like he feels sorry about the sad/low state of our world. That's the brilliance of this scene, John Doe may not be sane, at least not to us "lowlifers" (so to speak) but he's right, the world is too tolerant and we're slowly allowing ourselves to decay, we no longer live in a "decent" society.
@loggan62.,uh yeah it kinda does excuse his actions...sorry; society must not have its cake and eat it too,i.e. if you know the solution too a problem and dont choose too fix it., you cant call the enlightened ppl who see society for what its worth and actually have the conviction too do something about it.,though extreme measures.,you shouldnt label it as being defective mentally., that sparks the "COLUMBINE'S" in our communities...
@loggan62., thats probably the most naive observation that i have ever heard! John Doe wasnt dillusional in any way shape or form.,he was ahead of the curve on the sins of society...have u looked at it lately? plue the money is running out! mark my words.,in another 2yrs this movie will more of a documentary than fiction!
@UNIZEN ..which observation are u referring to? Mine? Or the one made by ndnkid79? What I meant b4 was : Doe had full intent of his actions. His state of mind (delusional or not), does not excuse him.
An epic movie..John Doe had some logic. What Doe failed to see was; as a human being ,you cannot be the judge of other human beings. (Unless you are a court-appointed judge. And even then, it's still a grey area)
John Doe cannot be in charge of who gets to live and who should die. If u live and let live, the universe will run it's due course in due time.. Brad made the audience feel his loss in the final scene. But, by not taking Doe's life, Mills would've triumphed. Gr8 actin by all..
So, this is what happened after Harkin got arrested in Horrible Bosses? Sheesh.
Blehhh49 2 days ago
can anyone recommend me a movie which is exactly the same as this one, u know philosophically
Lotrioni 4 days ago
@Lotrioni fight club, Silence of the Lambs, and maybe zodiac. no other movie is exactly like this one
WREQUIEM 3 days ago
@Lotrioni saw
1AaroUin 1 day ago
Still. One of the best movies ever made. Some of the very best acting as well. Not to mention, the Script. The straight truth about society and the world that has evolved is a scary thing to own up to. John Doe's insanity couldn't have been more sane in methodical action logic. He just had a problem with his delivery. Here's to one of the greatest thought provoking and conversational afterthought movies ever!
docholiday13 1 week ago
yeah he talks about how awful his victims are when he has never contributed in society in any way only by killing people in fucked up ways far worse than any crimes his victims had done. i was not in awe of this man at all he didnt suck me ine i just wanted to fuckin torture the living crap out of him whcih i know makes me as bad as him but fuck him
guitarreilly 1 week ago
Brad Pitt,Kevin Spacey,Morgan ..all THREE ARE AMAZING ACTORS
izzyxd117 1 week ago
This movie, this scene actually, gives me chills every time I watch it. Kevin Spacey has such passion in his work. Such dedication. I love his work. Beautiful.
dcily 2 weeks ago
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dcily 2 weeks ago
Morgan watch the road!!!
mauiportal24 2 weeks ago
Ending was pretty obvious. You knew it wasn't just going to be two more random dead bodies out in the middle of the desert, it was obviously a trick. My thought was the last two bodies would be Mills and Sommerset because he'd find some way to make them jealous/angry. Still a great ending though
Hellblazer311 3 weeks ago
"Your a fucking T-shirt!"
PurpleCloud619 3 weeks ago 2
this movie is about the morality of religion vs the morality of secularism, and the apathy of the general public who suffer the outcome of that conflict, john doe believes that killing is justified because the victims violated religious law, the cops believe that johns murders are the worst crimes possible because compare to what he did the offenses of his victims seem benign
burn435353 3 weeks ago
Kevin...I f***ing love you <3
Entvan 3 weeks ago
David - "John. Calm down, I seem to remember us knocking on your door. " - John - "Oh, that's right, and I seem to remember breaking your face. " Ha ha, wo-hoe. Lookout buddy!! Hostile much.
TheXLittleXPrincess 3 weeks ago
John Doe is the deepest kind of liar. Up there with Hitler, etc. He preys on innocent minds like Mills'.
MrMaldoror666 3 weeks ago
Spacey won the Oscar for Usual Suspects, but je should've also been nominated for this performance. Because the creepy thing is in some deep dark corner of your mind you find yourself agreeing with John. Maybe not his actions,but certainly his views. This movie came out two years after rach Dravidian,and we had seen firsthand what ultra-fundamentalism could lead to.
SardaukarPrime 1 month ago
'I'm setting the example'... in comes The Dillinger Escape Plan intro;)
joshm3055 1 month ago
This scene especially at the end shows everyone John Doe has already won. Mills has become wrath in the taht car then and there.
Ps3mads 1 month ago
Was Morgan Freeman ever young?
49fiori 1 month ago 3
@49fiori He started acting in his forties i believe...
bmillerdrums 1 month ago
@49fiori :D
diz096 1 month ago
its been along time seeing this movie how did she die?
adam18man 1 month ago
This is defintely the best scene from the movie , much love for Kevin Spacey
Winning58 1 month ago
the guy just decided that he'd not stand for certain behaviours in society and that he would o to enormous lengths to destroy the people engaging in these activities and by doing so he's putting a value on people's lives and he's judging them. His story does not hold up: if he's chosen then that must mean he has no ability to judge, since he's the tool of a higher entity. it's just another excuse for what he's done and he's telling them all this so he can get brad Pitt's character angry.
Regenmacher175 1 month ago
Am I the only one that memorized this whole scene?? :)
SummerMuffin08 1 month ago
The tension through this whole scene was just unerving, it sent chills down my spine. I mean i actually thought that anything could've happened, Like an alien could've popped out of his head for all i know. I kept on thinking mills and summerset were going to be the other deadly sins.
milontua 1 month ago 3
what about Sloth?
what did he do to deserve such a horrible 7 year torture of body and mind degrading deterioration in bed?
no i'm serious i don't really remember what e did i wasn't paying very much attention at the time :\
voltex12345 2 months ago
@voltex12345 Sloth guy was the "drug-dealing pederast" that he mentioned in his rant. And I think it was one year of the bed-bound torture, not seven.
enigma19833 1 month ago
@enigma19833 AH! i see! thank you kind sir...
voltex12345 1 month ago
1:18 Somerset shuts up John Doe good.
drifter6276 2 months ago
What's really interesting in the film is that Somerset's views of the world are a lot closer to John Doe's than to his partner Mills. The difference is the reaction, Somerset wants to retire and run away to live the rest of his life quietly whereas John Doe exacts some retribution on the world both he and Somerset see as terrible.
upkarsaimbi 2 months ago
One of the most brilliantly written, best acted scenes I've ever seen! I looked up this scene on Youtube just to say that.
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izzyxd117 2 months ago
dat poster's name
specklednoodle99 2 months ago in playlist Great Acting
brilliant movie, i only wish johny dep would star in it too so all my fav actors would be in it.Its true there are many wrong things in this world, sin all around us and if you try to change that- you go to jail
zergb0ng 2 months ago
Even though i hate to admit it but saw did kinda rip this off i mean the villian in that film is john too kramer that is this one is John Doe
Avatar7811 3 months ago
amazing
nataliehinchcliffe 3 months ago
This is my favourite movie scene of all time. Also, Seven came out the year I was born!
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92af 4 months ago
Fuckin Brilliant
dirtylos30 4 months ago
At 2:02 he says they were not innocent people.
At 4:02 he calls them innocent.
Still, a five star movie though!
Claxiux 4 months ago
@Claxiux I noticed that too. But he kinda pauses before and after he says that.
Maybe he was quoting the detective when he called them "innocent people" at 2:04, since that's what he believed they were.
TheCanon66 4 months ago
@Claxiux that whole statement he made was sarcastic, "biting your time, toying with me, 5 innocent people", none of those things did he actually believe were true
thesponge8 4 months ago
@Claxiux If you listen to the way he pronounces "innocent" at 4:02 you can clearly catch a hint of taunting sarcasm...which makes this scene that much better!
megaterra69 3 months ago
2:48- 2:50 wowww
tokillamockingbirdd 4 months ago
John Doe got a point.
RiderRohans 4 months ago
"You're a fuckin T Shirt at best" I luv that line
wolfengheist 4 months ago
Morgan Freeman has been in so many great movies, one of the best actors of our time that's for sure.
creepyd444 6 months ago 3
i'm not calming down at all ...you fucckn- fuckface,....i will kill you
jeffsdolphin 6 months ago
kevin spacey sounds like john malkovich.
2431346 6 months ago
Seat back you fucking freak!!!Shut your fucking mouth!!!!
MrChris131511 6 months ago
I fucking LOVE Kevin Spacey. I may even be a teensy bit obsessed.
mantaishere 7 months ago
@probertisking4 how about you sit on your fist & rotate! Quite sure it was most of ur inbred cousins on HLN whining about her climb down from your damn soapbox ingrate!!
TnUt00bLvr 7 months ago
I MASTURBATE IN MY OWN SHIT AND THEN I GO OUT AND KILL SOME SUGAR CANDY GIRLS BY TORCHERING THEM
GhettoNostalgia 7 months ago
I dedicate this awesome scene to both Jose'Baez (the lawyer) & Casey Anthony & EVERY slutty murdering Mom and the FILTH that defends them! Hell is Orlando FL.
TnUt00bLvr 7 months ago
@TnUt00bLvr do something about it or shut the fuck up. nobody except fat, retarded soccer moms care about casey anthony and they only care because some fat, retarded soccer mom on tv told them to care
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jamestargetedindiv 7 months ago
i don't get the gluttony part .. so you should kill somebody because he is fat ?? btw i'm not fat .. but every person likes something .. and there are people like to eat .. and don't forget there are bodies getting fat faster than the others
Manschaft13Legend 7 months ago
@Manschaft13Legend The lesson of the seven deadly sins is about the dangers of succumbing to your vices. The point is that gluttony is a sin of excess, and a sin of wasteful consumption. He didn't need that much food to live, but he ate it anyway while others starved around him. That's the danger of gluttony preached by sermons on the deadly sins. Read up more if you're still confused. Part of really liking this film is really understanding what's going on here.
darkchiron 7 months ago
@darkchiron
Wise words my friend.
freakycodfan 7 months ago
@Manschaft13Legend The bad guy says he's the most hideous person he's ever seen. It's only bad because being not-fat is actually really easy if you don't have a gland thing.
MrThePandaman 7 months ago
@Manschaft13Legend But hey, he's crazy.
MrThePandaman 7 months ago
Brad Pitt talks like Macaulay Culkin in this movie
Manschaft13Legend 7 months ago
The scariest part about this movie is that he makes sense.
MrThePandaman 7 months ago 21
@MrThePandaman What's scary are comments like this that show the greatest form of human ignorance.
drifter6276 1 week ago
@drifter6276 I'm not saying I agree with him. I'm saying I understand his point of view. Characters like Jason kill random for some random reason (in Jason's case, his mom was killed). It's scary because you don't understand it. This is scary because if this guy got to you first, you'd agree with him.
MrThePandaman 1 week ago
If the guy asked me, I'd tell him that he's out of his fucking mind. Everyone thinks they have a good reason. Hitler thought he had a good reason. Al Qaeda terrorists think they're getting 72 virgins when they walk into a building full of innocent people wearing an explosive vest. How many mass murderers use religion to justify their lunacy? Their only way of finding salvation is by harming others, which explains their contempt for the world and their sick way of dealing with it.
drifter6276 1 week ago
@drifter6276 Even though his reason is freaking insane, you can see how he came to that conclusion. You understand that he feels what he's doing is right, even though you know he's crazy and wrong. Much like the mass murderers you mentioned.
MrThePandaman 1 week ago
2:59 I love the way his voice breaks, it's so intense !!
MrsLedgerDepp 8 months ago
absolutely love the part where somerset phsychs out john doe XD the look on his face lol
aceofdamnspades 8 months ago
i feel like somerset sort of realizes that mills' anger is going to be his downfall. the look he gives him at the end says it all.
xocraziixo 8 months ago
Heavy shit here, been watching this vid for months now lol!
Among 3 of my favorite actors in a car with no bullshit CGI special effects, just epic dialogue worth it's weight in gold....It gets no better...
Up to this point, you'd think that John Doe is just a sick fuck until this speech, then you realize he's actually on a higher moral ground then pitt and freeman. What he speaks of here delves in the sewers that is the morals of society....
5 minutes of greatness!!!
SithLordNefaar022 8 months ago
@benwilzing I love that part too, it's so true and gives me an unexplaneable feeling when hearing it. I'd like to get a tattoo in reference to this speech
scott090919 8 months ago
Dude, Freeman saw the darkside come out in pitt. He was like whoa this isn't gonna end well.
imXaXteapot2112 8 months ago
2 People masturbate in their own feces
LordTyler88 8 months ago
Brad Pitt was a shallow jerk off in this movie. Spacey's character was superior.
teeleengo 8 months ago
@teeleengo he was supposed to be a jerk-off...hes wrath..
xocraziixo 8 months ago
Best scene from the whole movie!
2:06 - 3:43 is great!
He is so right and Brad Pitt knows it!;)
Thanks for uploading this great scene!
benwilzing 8 months ago 30
@benwilzing
You mean from 2:06 - 5:12 is the best scene, how can you not include that???
SithLordNefaar022 8 months ago
@SithLordNefaar022
Because Brad Pitt is talking than, but offcourse the last part is also great!;)
benwilzing 8 months ago
@benwilzing Not right, he just knows there's no point in arguing with a madman who has a twisted, depraved outlook on the world and himself. Every act of evil can be justified by some kind of insane reasoning.
drifter6276 2 months ago
2 people are T-Shirts at best.
BuckMuscles 8 months ago
john doe...i was secretly thanking you for the lawyer too!
spankham73 8 months ago
This scene is full of epic PWNAGES :)
Poezedoez 9 months ago 5
Fucking Awesome!
lexa434 9 months ago
you're a fucking tshirt at best!!!!!
xcgonzalez 9 months ago
@xcgonzalez and i'm gonna put some john doe quotes on a t-shirt in a few days :)
SithLordNefaar022 9 months ago
im doing this scence for my final in theater
YeahiCalluBack69 9 months ago
Kevin Spacey gets the coolest characters, Se7en, Usual Suspects. Awesome actor.
JeffreyEdward19 9 months ago 8
@JeffreyEdward19 watch american beauty
01010110100110 9 months ago
@01010110100110
AND LA Confidential. AND glengarry glenross, AND 21. dudes a genius.
lakerman34 9 months ago
Um homem inocente, que teve sua vida destruida pela inveja, onde ele teria de se tornar a inevitavel Ira, um ato tão horrendo que a Ira seria quase impossivel de não ser praticada.
mat2506 10 months ago
Um homem invejoso tão demoniaco e perverso, que a ira e o homicidio seria a única cura para sua inveja mortal.
mat2506 10 months ago
E não vamos esquecer da prostituta espalhadora de doenças.
mat2506 10 months ago
Um traficante, um traficante e pederaste na verdade. (assalto a mão armada)
mat2506 10 months ago
Uma MULHER uma MULHER, tão horrivel por dentro que ela não poderia continuar vivendo, porque ela não poderia se bela por fora.
mat2506 10 months ago
Depois disso eu escolhi o advogado e vocês 2 deveriam mais do que me agradecer por essa, esse é um homem que dedicou sua vida para fazer dinheiro, contando mentiras até seu último suspiro, para mantêr assassinos e estupradores nas ruas.
mat2506 10 months ago
Um homem obeso, um homem repugnante que mau consiguia se levantar, um homem que se você o visse na rua apontaria para seus amigos para se ajuntar e humilha-lo, um homem que se você o visse enquanto estivesse se alimentando não conseguiria terminar sua refeição.
mat2506 10 months ago
Saw must NOT be compared with seven!
juize85 10 months ago 24
I have a guy at work whos so fat he can barley stand and whene he comes in the lunch room,its true i cant finish my lunch. How wild.
thegame2011able 10 months ago
Everyone seems to love Spacey in this scene, i do too BUT I love Freeman more in this scene, he knows something is not right...plus he knows how to work and pull the strings of Spacey's character
reniisgod 10 months ago 5
Ever notice when John(Kevin Spacey) leans forward, 4:42 he's actually talking to Detective Somerset(Morgan Freeman) not Detective Mills(Brad Pitt).
luckymouse1971 10 months ago 3
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SupernaturalLover67 10 months ago
@luckymouse1971 how?
ostime14 9 months ago
@ostime14 Because in his mind, he thinks or is hoping, that Sommoerset will shoot Mills after he shoots John. So he is talking to Sommerset when he says" Everytime you look in the mirror at that face of yours for the rest of your life." He is looking at Sommerset through the mirror when he says it, not Mills.
luckymouse1971 9 months ago
@luckymouse1971
Sorry but that makes no sense. Somerset wouldn't kill mills for killing John Doe. He's looking at Somerset in the mirror while talking to mills.. It's more like his looking at Somerset saying "Look at how I'm screwing with your partner."
SithLordNefaar022 9 months ago
I once saw a clip from an old movie with a conversation very similar to this. But I have no idea what the movie is... can anyone tell me? (I think the clip was on one of those 100 best horror movie specials, but I'm not positive about that either)
Vandal0111 10 months ago
Gweneth Paltrow was innocent but Kevin spaceys sin was envy (of mills and his life) so he makes brad kill him to become wrath the last two sins envy and wrath.
Bear7923 11 months ago
John Doe reminds me a lot like Jigsaw from Saw.
neodemon591 11 months ago
turn on CC funny...
ZGReelProductions 11 months ago
wasnt gywenth paltrow's character innocent??
ZGReelProductions 11 months ago
@ZGReelProductions That was the point. The y were trying to show the hypocrisy of Spacey's character.
06bigd2000 11 months ago
i wanna have 0:22 - 0:38 as the intro to a song or a CD. fuckin sick. haha
caleb10123 11 months ago 2
Such an acting and writing masterclass. All three performances are perfect.
ERoBB1 11 months ago 8
His work? He claims God forced his hand into martyrdom? So Morgan Freemans point went unanswered....Martyrs arent sposed to enjoy killing for God..hiow stupid that is anyway that Martyrs really exist...Their called " Muslims".....
CoryConqrsRomyN12 11 months ago
@CoryConqrsRomyN12 Are you retarded?
zXxSinDitxXz 11 months ago
Great kevin spacey.
inadapted 11 months ago 6
You're No Messiah. You're a Movie of the Week. You're a Fucking T-shirt, at Best
97bruin 1 year ago
He contradicts himself. "Oh really? So, what were you doing? Biding your time? Toying with me? Allowing five innocent people to die until you felt like springing your trap?" Then later he argues that they were not innocent.
Fishilisation 1 year ago
@Fishilisation He doesn't contradict himself. He's using the word "innocent" as a way of driving his point home, that the detectives were never just on the verge of catching him, as Mills seems to be suggesting. The word doesn't mean anything to Doe, but it does to Mills, and by using it, it makes Mills assertion that much more ridiculous.
scarryterry 1 year ago
@scarryterry ok ok, i re watched it and it sounded like he forced the word 'innocent' out, making it sound rather sarcastic, my bad.
Fishilisation 1 year ago
I forget who played John Doe, but he did a fantastic job in this scene.
ZeldaFreak1987 1 year ago
@ZeldaFreak1987 That's Kevin Spacey.
LordScrambles 1 year ago
As soon as Kevin smiles at the end of this scene, you know exactly what he's planning. One of the greatest Oh Shit moments on movie history.
DulBeat 1 year ago
I really like how they keep pwning John Doe verbally. I really dislike when villains make these Hannibal lectures and the protagonist just starts believing every word he says. So it's enjoyable to see them just go "nope." or even point out the flaws in his arguments.
LionelMessi1337 1 year ago
@LionelMessi1337 I don't think they're "pwning " Doe at all. Mills certainly isn't. In fact, Mills pretty much loses his cool towards the end, letting Doe get the better of his emotions. Any flaw in Doe's plan that they try to point out to him, he easily swats away. The clip is a bit abbreviated, but by the end, Doe has a smug smile on his face. He's now completely in control.
scarryterry 1 year ago
@scarryterry I agree that Mills loses his cool at the end, but so did Doe initially, when he starts ranting about his victims, among them the lawyer and Mills says "Murderers such as yourself".
Let's not forget how Somerset points out the flaw in his whole "I was chosen" thing. Doe never countered that.
It's not in this video but there was also the moment when Mills said that nobody is going to remember Doe's act a week later and nobody will care (unlike Doe believes). And we know that's true.
LionelMessi1337 1 year ago
how happy would it make you to hurt me with impunity
that hurts my feelings
hahah funny line -- but brad pitts acting is terrible in this movie
Johnnys1700 1 year ago
"Innocent? Is that supposed to be funny?" :D:) Yes Kevin Spacey created one of the best characters in the movie history.
13Lostie13 1 year ago
He's not insane. He's got a different perspective than most.
LiesEntitled 1 year ago
"...masturbating in your own feces..."
Morgan Freeman: O_o
ZeldaFreak1987 1 year ago
Great scene, I gues only Joker, John doe and Jigsaw are ahead of the curve, huh?
Joecbg100 1 year ago
@Joecbg100 Yeah, but don't forget Hannibal Lecter ! :)
MrsLedgerDepp 8 months ago
@MrsLedgerDepp Sorry, I guess so.
Joecbg100 8 months ago
Lol ''masturbating in your own feces''. I've actually seen MILLIONS of videos on the internet (where else?..) of people masturbating with their own shit. xD
StlyDutch 1 year ago
one of favorite Pitt movies but Spacey just outclasses everyone in this scene.
1pacemaker 1 year ago
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deadindisguise 1 year ago
The best way to catch Jon Doe-Hannibal Lecter. Lecter knows what to do.
ronki23 1 year ago
Kevin Spacey is the fucking man!!
jimmy2k4o 1 year ago
"...or masturbating in your own feces?" the most memorable line in movie history :D
pivotgodxd 1 year ago
I seem to remember breaking your face
TheFinnification 1 year ago
i seem to remember knocking at your door.....oh yeah right and i remember breaking your face.
TheFinnification 1 year ago 3
dude, how do you remember your log-in name!??! o_O
ljoekelsoey4 1 year ago 97
@ljoekelsoey4 last pass add - on :D
lordofbaraddur 1 year ago
what does wierd mean ? stop using that word nerds
westside159 1 year ago
Is it weird that I am in love with Kevin Spacey's character in this movie?
JayBirdie1891 1 year ago 46
@JayBirdie1891 Yeah it is,
BLO68 11 months ago
@JayBirdie1891 um yeah
SupernaturalLover67 10 months ago
@JayBirdie1891 Yes, yes it is. I can understand being in love wtih Kevin Spacey... but his character in this movie is totally fucked.
FrigidArtic 10 months ago
@JayBirdie1891 Well if it is, I am weird too !! :P ♥
MrsLedgerDepp 8 months ago
@JayBirdie1891
Kevin, played the hell out of this role...a masterpiece!!!
young1s4u4 7 months ago 12
@JayBirdie1891 There is something about Kevin Spacey's eerie calmness that gives me the heebie jeebies.
APgeithner 6 months ago 4
being fat or beautiful , I dont think that these are such a big sins . I can understand the pederast and the whore sins though.
sehzadelee 1 year ago
@sehzadelee He considers them selfish.
Fat, obviously, because of too much food, that food or the money to buy it could be spent on less fortunate people, who don't have enough money or even chance to get nutrition.
The woman, obsessed with her own looks, which he considers being ungrateful for what you already have. Instead she couldn't live a normal life because of her intraverted mindset.
He's an extremist but I think he's right about peoples' inflated egos.
He needs psychotherapy, though.
MaybeYesNo90 1 year ago
@MaybeYesNo90 Thanks man , for the reply. I think he needs more than psychotherapy. What do you say for the killing Mills wife and her baby inside her ?
sehzadelee 1 year ago
@sehzadelee I certainly don't sympathize for John Doe, his morals aren't questionable at all. He may be right about how society is blind to the sins we make on a daily basis, like he says, it's become common. But his excuse for committing the murders is very questionable, that he was chosen by The Lord... That's where he starts to look like a religious extremist to me. Continued...
MaybeYesNo90 1 year ago
@sehzadelee If he is indeed a christian and believes in a higher power, why judge these people for himself and act it out by killing them? We're all flawed but that doesn't mean it's up to us to judge life or death. I think John was right in some ways but if God does exist, than there'd be no reason for John Doe to kill these people i.e. what he did was wrong, and from our POV he might be insane.
Sorry if I write way too much, it's a "nice weakness" I sometimes have :)
BTW I love this scene
MaybeYesNo90 1 year ago
@MaybeYesNo90 i guess what he was trying to do creating a domino effect by showing the ugly side of our society and the way to solve these problems (7 sins) , as he said in this scene 'when people comprehend what i have done , its going to be puzzled over , studied and followed.. ' I guess he made himself believe that he was a kind of prophet who is assigned to eliminate sins in the society.
sehzadelee 1 year ago
@sehzadelee exactly, he seemed, well, brainwashed by his own beliefs
MaybeYesNo90 1 year ago
@MaybeYesNo90 no matter how fucked up our world is, people like john doe are too fucking scared to face the world
PHIL9332 1 year ago
@PHIL9332 scared? more like resistant with a hint of demented
MaybeYesNo90 1 year ago
this man is not insane,he is a religen extremist.we see that today with suicide bombers.
mehrdadtedayrom 1 year ago
spacey's voice cracks at 3:01. that makes his performance so much more powerful and realistic in this moment.
manulito2 1 year ago
@manulito2 Actually it kinda makes it seem like he feels sorry about the sad/low state of our world. That's the brilliance of this scene, John Doe may not be sane, at least not to us "lowlifers" (so to speak) but he's right, the world is too tolerant and we're slowly allowing ourselves to decay, we no longer live in a "decent" society.
MaybeYesNo90 1 year ago
@loggan62.,uh yeah it kinda does excuse his actions...sorry; society must not have its cake and eat it too,i.e. if you know the solution too a problem and dont choose too fix it., you cant call the enlightened ppl who see society for what its worth and actually have the conviction too do something about it.,though extreme measures.,you shouldnt label it as being defective mentally., that sparks the "COLUMBINE'S" in our communities...
UNIZEN 1 year ago
@UNIZEN You didn't answer my question. I just wanted to know which observation u were referencing.
loggan62 1 year ago
@loggan62., thats probably the most naive observation that i have ever heard! John Doe wasnt dillusional in any way shape or form.,he was ahead of the curve on the sins of society...have u looked at it lately? plue the money is running out! mark my words.,in another 2yrs this movie will more of a documentary than fiction!
UNIZEN 1 year ago
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2olise 1 year ago
@UNIZEN ..which observation are u referring to? Mine? Or the one made by ndnkid79? What I meant b4 was : Doe had full intent of his actions. His state of mind (delusional or not), does not excuse him.
loggan62 1 year ago
An epic movie..John Doe had some logic. What Doe failed to see was; as a human being ,you cannot be the judge of other human beings. (Unless you are a court-appointed judge. And even then, it's still a grey area)
John Doe cannot be in charge of who gets to live and who should die. If u live and let live, the universe will run it's due course in due time.. Brad made the audience feel his loss in the final scene. But, by not taking Doe's life, Mills would've triumphed. Gr8 actin by all..
loggan62 1 year ago