Engine placement front of building for use of master stream for initial knockdown while the crosslay is being deployed to finish suppression. BIG fire needs BIG water for all those BTU's. master streams quicker and takes less man power than a 2.5 preconnect but engine placement is key (as well as water supply). But easier said and done, not every crew has experienced people in key roles and may lack "chemistry".
Was an attached garage/carport with no entrance to the home. No fire was pushed, in fact if you go to NIST and read some reports it is no longer a belief that you "push" fire. Another fine job armchair firefighting. Before you spout off I would suggest actually knowing what youare talking about. Just a suggestion.
Congrats...you managed to completely destroy what could of been a great video! all you had to do was stand in one spot & hold the camera steady..you had the fence right there,and a chair and you could of used the fence as mock tri pod and Fyi i film Tinley Park Fire & they do a Great Job
Why are they fighting the fire from the outside in? Is the garage not attached to the house? I thought you'd go through the front door and push it out? What up?
you may choose that as a viable option if it had an entrance, this was a garage/carport attached to the house with no entrnace. Main body of fire was knocked and the first line then went interior to cut the fire off.
Why are they fighteing the fire from the outside in? Is the garage not attached to the house? I thought you'd go through the front door and push it out? What up?
Please do not move around so much while filming. It is hard to watch when things are all over heck all the time. You were trying. Just try harder and concetrate a little more and I think I would like the video a lot more. Also why is there no sound? I also prefer sound. As far as the fire fighting they did not do great Is all I am going to say. Thanks for the effort and posting.
secondly an inch and 3/4 line?? really?? hello fully involved attactched garage? big fire big water? yeah next time try pulling a duece and a half it would have knocked it down alot quicker and for the guy on the pipe here is a bit of advice get in there get up close and stir that shit up dont sit all the way in left field penetrate the seat of the fire quit being a p*ssy maybe the tpfd should re-evaluate there tactics on fires and maybe they wouldnt burn every house fire to the ground
you are clueless. How much water does an 1 3/4 line put out? how bout a 2 1/2? This isn't a "big' fire. When was the last time you were up in the shit?
dude i am not clueless, this might not be a huge fire, but its a large volume of fire with alot of fuel, and its a garage. any garage your dropping 2 1/2, common sense. a 2 and a half with in inch and a quarter tip will give you 300 gallons a minute vs your inch and 3/4 line with the combo nozzle prob gives you 125 gpms, plus you dont get the penitration with a combo nozzle like you would with a smooth bore. i thought the same thing and questioned pulling 2 lines
instead of a single 2 and a half when i first got on the job, but after talking to some really seasoned vets and seeing it a couple times for my self the smooth bore 2 and a half is the way to go. practice pulling the 2 and a half more often you would be surprised the knock you get, i have my crew set on pulling off the back, unless i tell them otherwise. just something for not you but everyone to think about. not tryin to be a dick or anything
You sure sounded like it, and at least you got part of the numbers right. But a well placed 1 3/4 line pumped at the correct pressure will deliver between 150 and 180 gpm. With two lines off quickly as done here you are getting 300 to 360 gpm and the line is easier to manuver with two men on it, just food for thought. Furthermore you never responded to any other of my rebuttal's. You "asking" seasoned vet's doesn't give you the right to spout off.
and if calling brother f/f's p*%*y's isn"t a d**k don't know what is! I will chalk it up to you being young and excited to get a job, but it is a garage, I am not getting up in a garage, or anything else that put's my guys into unecessary harm. When it's time to be aggressive we are and once the main body is knocked we go and get it. Glad to know you are at least trying to educate yourself and I appreciate the criticism, just not the way you went about it. Stay safe!
wow what a disaster by the infamous tinley park fire department....first off nice rig placement not one engine commited to the street if youwhould have thrown one engine on the street and pull past the building to leave room for your truck the line would have been so much easier to pull and deploy and get water on the fire... glad to see that the wonderful fire prevention buerou of tinley was there to take photos ya think they could help flake out a line or kick out the kinks?
@pbrennan4726 Besides this, it took them about 15 minutes to get there and they couldnt get the hose on the fire hydrant... my neighbor had to help them put it on!
Armchair firefighting! And you are a little off in your assessment. The first rig is placed on a hydrant, leaving the front of the building for the 1st due Truck, which is exactly where the Truck ends up. Second, the line was stretched rather easliy considering it was a straight pull. Finally water is on the fire rather quickly. Keep up the commentary you are pretty good at it.
you can easily leave room for the truck by pulling past the building, the engine doesnt need to be right up to the hydrant to hit it thats what 5 inch is for.. but if thats tinleys sog's so be it,
the Engine is past the building, on a hydrant. And I am pretty certain that it is easier to stretch either a 2 1/2 or 1 3/4 then it is 5 inch. and the front of the building is open for the Truck. Not saying that the Engine could not have been facing east bound and accomplished the same results just confused by you thinking somehow the front of the bulding wasn't accessible to the Truck
@spindocter123 - "noone else in theworld owns." BFD. Learn to use video editing software and cut out the walking around and other useless parts where the camera isn't pointing anywhere near the action, which is 90% of this video.
Terrible, terrible camera work. Get & use a tripod. Try to point the camera toward the action once in a while. Use an editor to cut the parts where you're not pointing the camera at the action. Stop all that annoying panning around.
sound?
thomasheins75 2 weeks ago
@thomasheins75 Sorry about no sound there was alot of swearing and I didn't want everyone that I knew to hear it.
spindocter123 2 weeks ago
Fake owl on your fence? Heh. They are cool.
UtahMike41 2 weeks ago
You Parkinson's-having motherfucker
azurescens420 3 weeks ago
Engine placement front of building for use of master stream for initial knockdown while the crosslay is being deployed to finish suppression. BIG fire needs BIG water for all those BTU's. master streams quicker and takes less man power than a 2.5 preconnect but engine placement is key (as well as water supply). But easier said and done, not every crew has experienced people in key roles and may lack "chemistry".
dcochnauer 1 month ago
Does this guy have CP? it's the worse video of anything I've ever seen! why did you bother??
nmfd72 1 month ago
holy shit man.....i have never seen someone move and shake a camera around so much.....painful to even try to watch the video.
kmiller37 1 month ago 3
@kmiller37 You are kind of an asshole for a firefighter
spindocter123 1 month ago
sorry for the camera shaking?????? if you'd hold it still and not move it around so much, picture would have been alot better.....just saying.
kmiller37 1 month ago
ohh yeah push the fire in the house! best way to get it done lol
CForks2 2 months ago
@CForks2
Was an attached garage/carport with no entrance to the home. No fire was pushed, in fact if you go to NIST and read some reports it is no longer a belief that you "push" fire. Another fine job armchair firefighting. Before you spout off I would suggest actually knowing what youare talking about. Just a suggestion.
tpfd204 1 month ago
@tpfd204 I am glad to see someone else who is puting and end to the "Pushing fire" wives tale. Keep safe out there.
L-3885, Texas.
PoppaBlue59 1 week ago
Filmed by Micheal J. Fox...
GavinJLang 3 months ago
WOW, you guys have all the answers!
hfd37truck 4 months ago 2
Congrats...you managed to completely destroy what could of been a great video! all you had to do was stand in one spot & hold the camera steady..you had the fence right there,and a chair and you could of used the fence as mock tri pod and Fyi i film Tinley Park Fire & they do a Great Job
7089540230 4 months ago
Why are they fighting the fire from the outside in? Is the garage not attached to the house? I thought you'd go through the front door and push it out? What up?
kth611 4 months ago
@kth611
you may choose that as a viable option if it had an entrance, this was a garage/carport attached to the house with no entrnace. Main body of fire was knocked and the first line then went interior to cut the fire off.
tpfd204 1 month ago
Why are they fighteing the fire from the outside in? Is the garage not attached to the house? I thought you'd go through the front door and push it out? What up?
kth611 4 months ago
Please do not move around so much while filming. It is hard to watch when things are all over heck all the time. You were trying. Just try harder and concetrate a little more and I think I would like the video a lot more. Also why is there no sound? I also prefer sound. As far as the fire fighting they did not do great Is all I am going to say. Thanks for the effort and posting.
ahnbra 5 months ago 2
@ahnbra
im nauseous
7089540230 4 months ago
secondly an inch and 3/4 line?? really?? hello fully involved attactched garage? big fire big water? yeah next time try pulling a duece and a half it would have knocked it down alot quicker and for the guy on the pipe here is a bit of advice get in there get up close and stir that shit up dont sit all the way in left field penetrate the seat of the fire quit being a p*ssy maybe the tpfd should re-evaluate there tactics on fires and maybe they wouldnt burn every house fire to the ground
pbrennan4726 6 months ago
@pbrennan4726
you are clueless. How much water does an 1 3/4 line put out? how bout a 2 1/2? This isn't a "big' fire. When was the last time you were up in the shit?
tpfd204 1 month ago
@tpfd204
dude i am not clueless, this might not be a huge fire, but its a large volume of fire with alot of fuel, and its a garage. any garage your dropping 2 1/2, common sense. a 2 and a half with in inch and a quarter tip will give you 300 gallons a minute vs your inch and 3/4 line with the combo nozzle prob gives you 125 gpms, plus you dont get the penitration with a combo nozzle like you would with a smooth bore. i thought the same thing and questioned pulling 2 lines
pbrennan4726 1 month ago
instead of a single 2 and a half when i first got on the job, but after talking to some really seasoned vets and seeing it a couple times for my self the smooth bore 2 and a half is the way to go. practice pulling the 2 and a half more often you would be surprised the knock you get, i have my crew set on pulling off the back, unless i tell them otherwise. just something for not you but everyone to think about. not tryin to be a dick or anything
pbrennan4726 1 month ago
@pbrennan4726
You sure sounded like it, and at least you got part of the numbers right. But a well placed 1 3/4 line pumped at the correct pressure will deliver between 150 and 180 gpm. With two lines off quickly as done here you are getting 300 to 360 gpm and the line is easier to manuver with two men on it, just food for thought. Furthermore you never responded to any other of my rebuttal's. You "asking" seasoned vet's doesn't give you the right to spout off.
tpfd204 1 month ago
@pbrennan4726
and if calling brother f/f's p*%*y's isn"t a d**k don't know what is! I will chalk it up to you being young and excited to get a job, but it is a garage, I am not getting up in a garage, or anything else that put's my guys into unecessary harm. When it's time to be aggressive we are and once the main body is knocked we go and get it. Glad to know you are at least trying to educate yourself and I appreciate the criticism, just not the way you went about it. Stay safe!
tpfd204 1 month ago
wow what a disaster by the infamous tinley park fire department....first off nice rig placement not one engine commited to the street if youwhould have thrown one engine on the street and pull past the building to leave room for your truck the line would have been so much easier to pull and deploy and get water on the fire... glad to see that the wonderful fire prevention buerou of tinley was there to take photos ya think they could help flake out a line or kick out the kinks?
pbrennan4726 6 months ago
@pbrennan4726 Besides this, it took them about 15 minutes to get there and they couldnt get the hose on the fire hydrant... my neighbor had to help them put it on!
spindocter123 5 months ago
@spindocter123
Again a little off, actually took just under 4 minutes after the page to arrival. Keep up the good work!
tpfd204 1 month ago
@pbrennan4726
Armchair firefighting! And you are a little off in your assessment. The first rig is placed on a hydrant, leaving the front of the building for the 1st due Truck, which is exactly where the Truck ends up. Second, the line was stretched rather easliy considering it was a straight pull. Finally water is on the fire rather quickly. Keep up the commentary you are pretty good at it.
tpfd204 1 month ago
@tpfd204
you can easily leave room for the truck by pulling past the building, the engine doesnt need to be right up to the hydrant to hit it thats what 5 inch is for.. but if thats tinleys sog's so be it,
pbrennan4726 1 month ago
@pbrennan4726
the Engine is past the building, on a hydrant. And I am pretty certain that it is easier to stretch either a 2 1/2 or 1 3/4 then it is 5 inch. and the front of the building is open for the Truck. Not saying that the Engine could not have been facing east bound and accomplished the same results just confused by you thinking somehow the front of the bulding wasn't accessible to the Truck
tpfd204 1 month ago
some one needs to go to film school
vfdunit1 7 months ago
@FilmLou can u give me the link?
spindocter123 1 year ago
@spindocter123 - You write like a teenager. It doesn't help your credibility.
melevy 1 year ago
@spindocter123 - "noone else in theworld owns." BFD. Learn to use video editing software and cut out the walking around and other useless parts where the camera isn't pointing anywhere near the action, which is 90% of this video.
melevy 1 year ago
Terrible, terrible camera work. Get & use a tripod. Try to point the camera toward the action once in a while. Use an editor to cut the parts where you're not pointing the camera at the action. Stop all that annoying panning around.
melevy 1 year ago
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melevy 1 year ago
@Kali1050 thanks, i will try to hold the camera better
spindocter123 1 year ago
Wow, kudos to those firefighters! Fighting fire is tough enough, but doing so during that huge earthquake...... my head hurts.
rob77g60 1 year ago 5
are you having a seizure while filming this?
gdtrfb81 1 year ago 2
@gdtrfb81 No I wasn"t but the only reason the camera was shaking was because i was freaking out. Next time i will get a tripod.
spindocter123 1 year ago
@spindocter123
no next time just hand paint a picture...we all get the picture!
7089540230 4 months ago