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  • Well FYI, and not to get into too much detail, I was stationed at Andrews AFB and was on my way into DC when i saw a Commercial aircraft fly over the highway and impact the Pentagon. I was an Aircraft mechanic and worked Near runways and airfields for over 20 years. Seen many aircraft do low level fly-bys. Although i tried to assist in the clean-up, i was not authorized in the area because i did not have clearance. I did, however see a large amount of aircraft material scattered everywhere.

  • @nashkita77 BULL SHIT !!!!!

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  • you'all stop wasting your time on stupid shit!!!

  • obviously false flag . put this shit on mainstream

  • fact is building 7 was controllrd demolishion ......silverstein needs to be brought to trial ... people who lost loved ones...we will keep fighting for you

  • Barrett is an Idiot - this was a a false flag attack to lauch pre planned wars in Afganistan & Iraq , but nobody involved in the operation was smart enough to make any of the hijackers Iraqi !?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

  • What an unbelievable pile of nonsense. This fool will eat his words.

  • after watching RT how can you still consider FOX real news?

  • I have a degree* in history** and I have several sources*** that confirm that World War 2 never happened.

    *half a bachelor's

    **took a course in my local community college

    ***my grandfather told me it didn't happen.

    Now, does that reasonable at all to any of you retards?

  • It always intrigues me to hear academics and professors talking nonsense, it just emphesizes that the most important degree to have is a degree of common sense.

  • 9/11: THE ACCUSATION DEFENDED BY ROBERT KELDER AGAINST DUO SMITH

  • @Zuel7272 How good can an interview be when the guy lies 4 times in the first 4 minutes?

  • i bet the government just sits back and laugh at how stupid and gullable people are,.. probably like "we can do and tell them anything and they;ll believe it, but we have to worry about the ones who can think for themselves" lol glad im not one of the governments lab rats!!! =D

  • @TyeDye07 actually you do sound pretty stupid.

  • @jigglypiggly Thanx :) lol

  • FAKE

  • This guy is an idiot.

  • For more about Dr. Barrett see my video:

    Kevin Barrett Go to Your Room

  • where did he come up with that statistic? lol

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  • Dr. Niels Harrit (retired associate professor of chemistry) and his team at the University of Copenhagen published a paper in The Open Chemical Physics Journal and verified that red/grey particles of non-reacted nanothermite was found in the dust of the WTC buildings. This finding is irrevocable proof -- the veritable DNA -- that "Office Fires" and jet planes did not bring down the three buildings on that fateful day." Now --upon this 'probable cause' we MUST TRACK DOWN and arrest GWB!

  • This legal term for this information is 'probable cause'. There is, then, PROBABLE CAUSE to INDICT George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Condo Rice (whose foreknowlege of 911 can be proven in court) various members of the Joint Chiefs and other 'facilitators' inside the Bush admin having 'guilty foreknowledge of events. There is enough evidence now to bring indictments for the crimes of mass murder and high treason! I left out Larry Silverstein who gave the game away with this stupid mouth.

  • An assignment for morons and idiots still believing Bush. 1) look up Burden of Proof 2) tell my why ANYONE should believe, swallow or accept what is --in fact ---a very bad and unimaginative re-write of ALI BABA and his 40 THIEVES. And while you're at it, PROVE that Bin Laden was alive when 911 happened. Prove that he maintained CELL PHONE contact with his "40 thieves' from DEEP INSIDE a cave in Tora Bora. PROVE IT. Or SHUT THE FUCK UP!

  • Now --I had challgenged Bush asskissers to cite at least SOME evidence to support Bush's cacamamie, stupid, impossible, utterly idiotic theory re: 911! Clearly --NO ONE posting here has even come close. Why? That's easy! I got no takers because 1) there is NOT A SHRED of evidence (admissible or otherwise ) to support ANYTHING anything ever said by Bush at any time; 2) the laws of physics consistently disprove the many physically impossible things that are ASSERTED by bush but never proven

  • Bush kiss ups are not doing him a favor. Bush apologists have run out of tricks. Challenged to PROVE the official conspiracy theory of 911, all they have are insults, bullshit, more lies, crap and utterly meaningless partisan propaganda. If a 757 had crashed the PENT,dead arabs could have been DNA id. Nor were there any bodies of hijackers! NONE. Are we to believe that they were raptured seconds before the impact, or bailed out, rolled across the PENT lawn and escaped???? Bushco are IDIOTS!

  • 80%? Bullshit. I know a lot of people and very few think that the government planned the 9/11 attacks. The few that I know that do believe that are people who barely made it out of high school and very little understanding of any science. RT is a friggin' joke. Just another propaganda machine like Pravda.

  • @Synthetrix You are dead wrong! I hang out with PhDs and graduates of Cambridge. NONE of them believe the official load of codswallup. Now --I suggest that you (a self-avowed genius) look up the term 'burden of proof'. I will help you out. It goes like this: 'those who assert must prove!" So --if you believe Bush's bullshit conspiracy theory, PROVE IT! Cite a scintilla of evidence to support ANYTHING said by Bush re: 911 at any time. Challenge: YOU cannot prove or support ANY PART OF IT!

  • @Synthetrix I suggest you go back to school. Look up the term BURDEN OF PROOF. Bush tells you a total crock of shit that violates the rules of PHYSICS and you buy it! That's makes you an either an idiot OR a liar! Which is it? Clue: burden of proof means that when anyone (including proven assholes, asswipes, known liars and/or dead heads) ASSERTS a STUPID FUCKING CONSPIRACY THEORY like Bin Laden, he had best PROVE IT or shut the fuck up! 

  • @Synthetrix I know of NO INTELLIGENT or educated people who believes a word of Bush's stupid, impossible, MORONIC official conspiracy theory. 1) It violates the laws of physics; 2) there is NOT A SHRED of admissible evidence to support it. Just one of hundreds of examples; THERE ARE NO ARABS on the only OFFICIAL, ADMISSIBLE document relative to the Pent and AA says Hani Hanjour did NOT have a ticket. So --how did he get on board and WHERE are the other 'hijackers'. Only MORONS believe it.

  • @Synthetrix who you hang out with is NOT relevant to anything I said. Who you hang out with is of NO interest to me. WHO you hang out with is not indicative of those skeptical of Bush's lies, bullshit, his murderous complicity! Who you hang out with is irrelevant and, based upon your stupid, uninformed posts, I would have expected you to schmooze with other morons --just like yourself. But that does not mean that I do. In fact, all of my friends are University graduates. Some are PhDs

  • For more about Dr. Kevin Barrett and his academic exile, see my video "Kevin Barrett Go To Your Toom"

  • it means American kill american..

  • 69 to 96% of americans were watching a lot of cartoons sometime before the fact

    that's why the official explanation of the event made so much sense

  • @concussedcarneous The official conspiracy theory of 911 is not supported by physics and there is NO PROOF that ANY said hijacker ever boarded any said flight at any time! If you think otherwise --PROVE your theory. Prove the official conspiracy theory of 911. Let's just take 77 as an example: 1) NO ARABS on the ONLY official evidence to have survived Bush's SWEEPING and FELONIOUS ORDER to destroy evidence, i,.e, the wreckage et al. 2) NO 757 fuselage. NONE. If you think there was, PROVE IT!

  • @lennhart listen, buddy, i ain't got to prove shit. i wasn't the one who FABRICATED the whole 911 and fed it to the public. right, there were no hijackers because there were no fucking planes to begin with.

    people saw planes on TV. they saw building eat some plastic planes yet they thought it was really happening.

  • so why do the government use numbers to brain wash

  • Data from the NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD proves that the door to the cockpit on Ft 77 was NEVER OPENED after the pilot-copilot got on board. ERGO: even IF Hani Hanjour, whom the Washington Post reported did NOT have a ticket, had somehow gotten on board, he could NOT have hijacked the plane or pilot it as the official FUCKIN LIES say he did! GET A ROPE! We need to hang some people!

  • 3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:

    Why did Dr. Steven Jones circumvent the peer review process by not showing his nanothermite paper to the chief editor and printing it without her approval?

    Since demolition experts estimated it would take over 100 men 4-6 months to place explosives in WTC 1, 2, & 7, how come no one witnessed any strange construction activity, wires, or boxes?

    What did Hani Hanjour’s flight instructors have to say about his flying ability?

  • There is a SH__ load of 'probable cause' to indict and arrest Larry 'Evil Gnome' Silverstein for 1) defrauding his insurers 2) conspiring with Bushco/Rummie et al 3) participating in the crimes of mass murder and high treason! Who benefited from 911? Lucky Larry got a big insurance payoff! Bush/Cheney got to conduct the war against Iraq that they had --in fact --already planned! Israel succeeded in suckering the U.S. into fighting its war! We are NOT in Kansas anymore.

  • FBI Director Robert Mueller admitted that the FBI had no evidence to link the 19 'Muslim men' who have apparently disappeared --neither on the autopsy list or the original 'official flight manifests' --to the events of 911. ERGO: even the FBI believes the BUSH 'official conspiracy theory' to be utter bullshit. In other words, 911 was an inside job.

  • The Wash Post reported that Hani Hanjour did not have a ticked --to how could he possibly have gotten on board! He could not have! 2) There are NO ARABS on the official autopsy report released to Dr. Olmsted via an FOIA. 3) NTSB flt data released via FOIA request indicates that the cockpit door was NEVER opened during 77's alleged flight. HOW DID HANI who did NOT have a ticket manage to WALK THROUGH A CLOSED DOOR? HE DIDNT! That's 3 of possibly thousands of fatal flaws in Bush conspiracy theory.

  • Moreover, an AA press release said that AA has NO RECORD that flights 11 or 77 EVEN flew on 911. Another nail in Bush's big lie. Certainly --no wreckage traceable to any 757 was found at the Pentagon. The SINGLE engine compressor rotor that was found is about 1/3 the diameter of TWO rotors that would have been found had 77 crashed the Pentagon. These are fatal holes that utterly shoot down Bush's lie!

  • @lennhart The title of this video is a lie. The claim that 80% of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job is absurd. Not even Dr. Barrett would make such a claim, though his false claim that 36% believe it was an inside job is also a stupid lie. See my video "Kevin Barrett Go to Your Room"

  • ..False flag operation??? Yet wikileaks wont pick up your cause...He seems to be uploading leaked documents in many countries in regards to corrupt practice and war crimes..He has nothing to do with the truth movement..maybe there is nothing there..NNow you have to change the name to false movement.

  • Well, I have only drowned in my bathtub 4 times so far, so I guess I am safe from the Islamic boogie man. I would say I am 30 times more likely to "ride" the lightning than I am to die from terrorism, but essentially, they are the same thing, one is just admitted by the government, while the other is blamed on people with brown skin and facial hair.

  • @punkeratheart Tell it to the widows, dude, that the terrorist threat was trivial. Tell it to the orphans. There were warnings from 13 foreign countries, 3 FBI offices, and the CIA. See my video "Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows"

  • @punxsutawneybarney Most of the widows and orphans agree with my analysis of what happened on that day. The laws of physics were not suspended, and a bunch of pissed of muslims didn't take the US government by surprise. They all lied under oath, because they were all in on it. Otherwise it would be the highjackers by themselves, and the buildings wouldn't collapse, and the death toll would be a fraction of what it was. Logical analysis points overwhelmingly to government involvement.

  • @punkeratheart I am not arguing with your inside job evidence. I am arguing with your trivializing of the 9/11 attacks, claiming that bathtubs are more dangerous. That is an argument invented by Dr. Kevin Barrett that is so offensive to the 9/11 family members that it's hard to believe that Barrett wasn't deliberately trying to alienate them from truthers.

  • @punxsutawneybarney I am trivializing anything! I was making a satirical reply to comments made in the video. I don't know enough about Kevin Barret to decide whether or not to consider him a disinformation agent, a real truth seeker, or anything in between. I do know what I have concluded from my own study of my uncle Barry's murder, and I know who is responsible for it. Don't tell me I am trivializing someone's grief, you sound like Bill O'Reilly.

  • @punxsutawneybarney Now if you count false flag attacks as terror, than we are all in grave danger of dying in acts of terror. If you consider it genocide, than we in the US are in the early stages of a virtual Nazi Germany.

  • @punkeratheart Of course false flag attacks are terrorism. They are acts of violence perpetrated on civilians in order to achieve political effects. That's terrorism.

    As far as Barrett goes, consider that he makes four serious errors of fact in the first four minutes of this interview. If he's not deliberate disinfo, he's an idiot. See my video "Kevin Barrett Go to your Room".

  • @punxsutawneybarney What are those four factual errors, and source the information for me please?

  • @punkeratheart The claim that 36% believe inside job is not true, the claim that Silverstein made $20 billion is not true, the claim that SIlverstein confessed to blowing the WTC7 is not true, and the claim that there was a countdown on a police radio is not true. Barrett is a clown with no regard for truth.

  • @punxsutawneybarney No one can really no exactly how much silverstein and others made off it, so he's making up a # there. The 36% was one poll, but it was a real figure, now an outdated one. The "confession" was the quote of silverstein saying "we made the decision to pull it, and watched the building fall", and I have seen the interview where he said that. "Pull" refers to a specific method of demolition, top-down. As for the countdown, a couple people said they "may have heard a countdown".

  • @punkeratheart The 36% was not "inside job". It was "somewhat likely" or "very likely" that the gov't made it happen or let it happen. It was a Scripps Howard poll in 2006. Silverstein has denied that by "pull it" he meant "blow it up".  Claiming he confessed is making us look like idiots.

  • @punxsutawneybarney Of course, amidst new controversy and questions from a million angles, he is going to deny that he meant to pull the building itself, but then he goes on to say "we meant pull the personnel from the building", which in an interview, you could edit out. Someone would point out "hey larry, you said it, don't you mean pull THEM?", and they would do another take. You don't refer to people as "it".

  • @punkeratheart Only a loony conspiracy theorist would take an ambiguous remark by an old man as a confession. Do you honestly think that someone who would plan and execute a multi-billion dollar insurance scam and kill 3000 people would blurt out a confession on national TV? No reasonable person would. Probably Mr. Silverstein made that statement deliberately to make truthers look foolish--and it's working..

  • @punkeratheart The best and most reliable sources for how much Larry made off 911 can be found at THE WASHINGTON POST, FORBES, BUSINESS WEEK et al.

  • @punxsutawneybarney At this point, it's really an insignificant minority who still believe the official story, but that just mean they disbelieve the Commission Report, which any idiot can tell is a piece of shit. What the majority generally believes can only be guessed at unless a totally anonymous poll is conducted of 300-million americans with the specific question "do you believe 9/11 was carried out by US government", but at the very least, most of us are questioning it.

  • @punxsutawneybarney I find Barret to be at least an idiot for appearing on O'Reilly, because he obviously is a bit too softspoken to take on media shills like billbo. The only way to use the O'Reilly factor to get truth out is to be ready to shout louder than him, which Barret didn't do. He sat there and took an O'Reilly brow-beating, and O'Reilly watchers hang on his every word, so when you do that, you might as well be agreeing with Billbo.

  • lol. This was posted on september 11th 2009!

  • @fishontuesday For more on Kevin Barrett, see my video "Kevin Barrett Go to Your Room"

  • Cheney is EVIL. Bush was a moron. Obama has failed to expse the truth and has maintained an unacceptable status quo. American democracy is dead. Thomas Jefferson said, 'The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.' That time is now. The Revolution has begun and is not being televised. I repeat - NOT being televised. Fight now or be a slave forever.

  • It would be a well presented summary if it were true. Pray tell, how did Larry Silverstein get $20 billion from a $6 billion insurance payout? Barrett's polling stats are in dreamland, and the claim that Silverstein "confessed" is loopy. For more on Barrett see my video "Kevin Barrett Go to Your Room"

  • @punxsutawneybarney Erm, Silverstein clearly said that he gave the order to "PULL" building 7. How is that possible in just a few hours?

  • @OdiUs2010 According to NIST, failure of one column made the others come down and the whole building fell in near-perfect symmetry. So I guess you just needed to know which column to pull.

  • @punxsutawneybarney Hi mate, NIST is a BIG fraud and thats exactly why more than 1200 Architects and Engineers have since come out and challened both the NIST and Bush admin version of what happened on that day.

    YAHOO NEWS: 07/09/2010: "1,270 Architects/Engineers Reveal Hard Evidence of Explosive Demolition at World Trade Center on 9/11"

    If the Vatican can conspire to keep years of abuse covered up, Im 100% certain that the Bush admin have no problems in covering up 911.

  • @OdiUs2010 I know all about the Architects. See my video "9/11 Truth on Fox News, Fresno, California"

    When we have the truth on our side, it's a shame that turkeys like Barrett go around lying and making us look like idiots.  See my video "Kevin Barrett Go to Your Room"

  • 911 was not just an inside job...there are ties to germany and israel (these two countries have been strange bedfellows with usa`s elite for centuries)...

  • The truth is 83% of Americans don't believe the governments lies about 9/11.

  • That's roughly the percentage of Americans that are idiots. What a coincidence!

  • @monkeybird2008

    Haha, more dumb responses from the "DEBOINKING COMMUNITY". Everyone knows 911 was an inside job.

    Just look at the pentagon and you can clearly see NO COMMERCIAL PLANE.

    Idiots like you believe an ALUMINUM commercial plane can BARREL THROUGH 3 LAYERS OF CONCRETE and LEAVE A PERFECT HOLE.

    Yet NOT LEAVE ANY LARGE PLANE PART ANYWHERE?

  • 3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:

    Since the govt. committed 9/11, why arent truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?

    If there was no flight 93, please explain how 95% of the plane debris was recovered?

    If there was no flight 77, please explain the over 130 witnesses who saw a plane?

  • osama took the blame

  • Lets see 80% of Americans have never read a serious book

    80% of Americans think sit coms are funny

    65% of Americans voted for Obama

    75% cant give the dates for Civil War

    80% dont know who Winston Churchill was

    "No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the

    American Public" PT Barnum

  • sure I believe it was an inside job. But what are we going to do about it now? Let's all have a round of beers.

  • @graycloud057 lol that exactly what i say, it was an inside job but we cant do anything about it,. lol

  • This video is absolutely correct. Kevin Barrett is right. All 3WTC buildings were controlled demolition jobs.

  • TOP FIVE 911 TWOOFER LIES

    1) Nanothermite (aka paint chips from PPG)

    2) No flight 93 (despite 95% of plane debris recovered)

    3) No flight 77 (even though over 130 witnesses saw a plane)

    4) Marvin Bush WTC security (never happened)

    5) Free fall speed (absolutely no building collapsed at freefall speed)

  • @ctcole77 1) existence of nano-theremite is confirmed fact in peer-reviewed PAPERS by real physicists not idiots who spam YouTube. 2) NO WRECKAGE traceable to 93 was EVER recovered and even MSM reports state: "...no wreckage...that you could trace to an airliner'. 3) NO WRECKAGE traceable to 77 was EVER found at the Pentagon; on 1 engine rotor found. It's 1/3 the size of TWO much larger 757 rotors; 4) Marvin was IN FACT in charge of WTC sec. 5) you right --collapses were FASTER than free fall.

  • ROFL!

    Nice try LIAR!

    First off Marvin Bush stopped working for Securecom in the summer of 2000, over year BEFORE 911.

    Second of all, Securecom ONLY had a subcontract to update WTC security in 1998, three years BEFORE 911.

    And lastly Securecomwas NEVER in charge of WTC security. The Port Authority has ALWAYS been in charge of WTC security.

    911 TRUTH = STRAWMAN

  • 3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:

    Since WTC 7 was constructed over a Con Ed station, how did the structural framing compensate for the station and how did that influence the collapse?

    How much nanothermite did Niels Harrit estimate was used in the supposed controlled demolition of WTC 1, 2, & 7?

    If a postcard could survive the Hindenburg inferno isn't it possible for a passport to survive the WTC collapse?

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  • @PoetryRound Kevin Barrett is certifiable at this point. About the only time he gets someone to listen to him is when he interrupts a talk, or rambles during a Q&A session. He is joined by his fellow "former" professers: Jim Fetzel, Morgan Reynolds, et al. (wonder why they all have emeritus status?) No legitimate mainstream news org will let these nimrods anywhere near their studios. Same goes for the king Truther nutjob, David Ray Griffin. Alex Jones is another laughable blow-hard.

  • Not even Barrett said 80% believe inside job.

    He said 36% believe inside job. That wasn't true. He also said Larry Silverstein made $20 billion on the WTC. That wasn't true. He said Larry Silverstein confessed to blowing up the WTC. That wasn't true.

  • @punxsutawneybarney lesser believes it was an inside job,. more believe that it wasn't n the majority just doesn't kno or care,.. Larry made $7 billion,. and he stated that he told "them" to "pull" which in demolition terms mean bring down the buildings,. in reality it was an inside job but we can't do anything about everyone just live their lives until this New World Order take place ,. """The Best Way To Hide Something Is To Hide It In Plain(plane) Sight""""

  • @TyeDye07 We can do a lot to educate the public about the dangers to our freedoms and the facts about 9/11. Unfortunately people like Barrett who run around lying about those things tend to push the public away and make our job more difficult.

  • @punxsutawneybarney i dont think he's lying i agree with him,. the people of this country are doomed to destruction. I'm 100% sure that 9-11 was an inside job!!

  • @TyeDye07 He lies four times in the first four minutes of this interview: about the police radio, about Silverstein's "confession", about the polls, and about Silverstein's profits.

  • @punxsutawneybarney i meen he's probably lying about all that irrelevant b/s which i have no clue as to if its true or not,. but im just saying that i know for my self that 9-11 was carried out by American Govt. yea people get offended but you have to see it as Money = Root to all evil,. if they'll kill Kennedy then they dont mind Killing thousands(WTC victims) for money and fake or real war ,. America is greedy,. sad but true WWI and WWII

  • @TyeDye07 When people like Barrett mix lies, violence-mongering, and bigotry with truth , they give the American public an excuse to reject the truth. By going around playing "kooky truther" every time he gets a chance, Barrett is doing enormous damage to the credibility of the truth movement.

  • @punxsutawneybarney I never even heard of this guy till now and what he has to say won't affect my judgement or my opinion on the fact of 9-11 he speaks nonsense because when i heard him say $20 billion im like wtf lol but your right though but i swear i hate how in denial people are these days man,. 9-11 is nothing new. Im no Truther or The other thing but i just know somethings not right.

  • @TyeDye07 Who you've heard of and who you have NOT heard of is of no relevance whatsoever. Another clue: no one but you gives a shit!

  • @punxsutawneybarney that makes sense,. the evidence the Government puts out is like a puzzle with pieces that will not fit!!! people just gotta let go of there pride get out of the media's ass and do their own research!! but i think the truth is out but What They have in-store for us is going to be 100x worse then 9-11!!!!

  • @TyeDye07 I agree, the pieces don't fit, the government's story is unbelievable, and we need new investigations. Unfortunately guys like Barrett who use their mainstream microphones to lie (4 times in the first 4 minutes above) are hurting the cause. As a movement we must slap the liars down before the people will take us seriously. Clowns like Barrett and Willie Rodriguez, the no-plane idiots, and the Citizen Investigation Team make us look dumb.

  • @punxsutawneybarney yea i know right,. but really you dont need Barrett or anyone to help you to see that 9-11 was staged,.. people just need to put their brainz to good use,. but they are making us TRUTHERS look like idiots, its kool,. ALEX JONES knows his ish people need to watch him and listen,..

  • @TyeDye07 The official Bush bullshit story of 911 is utterly impossible and defies the laws of physics. It DID NOT happen because it could NOT have happened. Conan Doyle said: "When you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains however implausible must be the truth!" Ergo: bush's official conspiracy theory is impossible, defies the laws of physics. Ergo: what remains is INSIDE job. Bushco had 1) method, 2) motive (oils war in middle east) 3) opportunity. Inside job --pure and simple!

  • @lennhart true! people are too dumbfound to see bullshit when its right in there face,. or they're just stuck in denial with the truth being told,.. 9-11 was an inside job

  • "no thats not tru.we are trying to get publicity"..Kevin Barrit is a nut and should be held accountable for causing so much pain.The truth movement has been shown countless times evidence of how fire can weaken steel.They just dont want to accept it because they put their reps at stake and have lost.

  • bs, NIST has not one piece of core steel showing heating above 480 degrees F. That's not hot enough to weaken it. So don't tell me about fire weakened steel. The physical evidence that would have told the tale of what happened was destroyed, and NIST didn't even have the intellectual honesty to express regret about it.

  • @punxsutawneybarney ..I work with steel and know how little heat it takes to weaken steel so dont tell me it takes alot of heat to weaken steel.Ask any gunsmith or blacksmith how little heat it takes..Now if you told me about seeing your shadow then I would have to take your word for it.

  • bs, don't go mistaking heat and temperature. Read Eagar and Musso's paper in the JOM. It says structural steel begins to soften at 425 C and loses half its strength at 650 C.

    Read my lips: NIST has no core steel samples showing heating above 250 C. That's not hot enough to seriously weaken it.

  • @punxsutawneybarney ..The temp affects the carbon alloy and it is re-arranged so the steel loses the elasticity needed to keep it from reaching a state of deformation where it breaks.. Anyone who works with steel understands this,many architects somehow ignored this when building the WTC complex..Today they are urged to be aware of the effects of fire on steel..Read my lips.I knew the towers will collapse on 9/11/01 as did others. We were right then and you are wrong today.

  • The temp affects your tinfoil alloy, bs. You don't know what you're talking about. The strength/temp curve of steel has been known for a hundred years at least.

    Let's suppose you're right, and the engineers didn't design the building properly. If so, since NIST doesn't call them out for it, NIST's investigation is either dishonest or incompetent or both. And then you should agree that we need new investigations.

  • Well at least he didn't say anything about "toasting Jews".

    See my video "Kevin Barrett go to Your Room"

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