Nice pics! A msg for snake 1694, its wankers like u that have no idea of the way things are in th real world that get my blood boiling! U think all anaimals deserve to live, well news flash arsehole foxes kill for a living and in this country they arnt native.therefore shouldnt all the animals that they kill deserve to be alive even more?? so wats wrong with removing this wrongly introduced animal so the natives can survive. Go back to ur arm chair to watch the world from inside ur little bubble
@cookietheman1234: it wrong alot of people care to u it may be a smelly creature but to others it's a beutiful animal that deserves to live who the fuck are u to say that an animals life is meaningless
@Beanpup9 In case you did not notice I am in Australia where foxes are not native. Here they have caused the exinction of many unique Marsuipals and will wipe more out if not contained. The also kill around 30% of lambs born, even though sone people wish not to believe this fact. In countries such as England where they are native they sould remain, but this does not meen their numbers shoulsnot be controlling.
Did you not read it right...the FOXHOUNDS spread and carry disease to livestock not foxes....You were the one who stated foxhounds don't spread liver flukes...not me... I'm pointing out that hunting foxes does more harm than leaving them alone...
Diseases such as Hydatis are spread by carnivores eating offal from animals which died or had of those diseases. Fox hounds are fed clean meat, not offal. Foxes live off anything they can find such as the remains of dead stock. The fox in my pictures you are commenting on is eating offal form a dead sheep, which possably contains pathogens which it will spread. That is evidence, what evidence do you have of hound doing the same.
You've clearly not understood. Foxhounds were fed the dead carcasses of livestock, and so spread disease and parasites when out hunting. Now hounds MUST be wormed BECAUSE of this. If you have any arguement with hounds spreading disease then, you need to take this arguement up with DEFRA, the agricultrural governing body for the UK, they are the ones who have DEMANDED increased pastural care for hounds to PROTECT livestock from the worms and parasites the hounds spread across the countryside....
The evidence? I have already posted a statement from DEFRA, stating the disease and parasites that hounds spread to livestock...!!! DEFRA analysed the amount of parasites and disease the hounds spread when they were previously fed raw livestock carcasses and NOT WORMED....Now DEFRA have dictated that hounds ARE wormed and treated to help prevent their carrying of disease and parasites to livestock...as I said, if you don't like it, take your arguement up with DEFRA.....You can't argue fact....
This is about foxes not hounds. Why are you and DEFRA not worried about foxes spreading Pathogens. My pictures are of foxes eating offal from a dead sheep and raw meat. Foxes are never wormed and travel over hundreads of properties an do so every night. What are you going to do about this, who do you blame.
Many animals and humans carry pathogens, not just foxes..., but also reptiles, amphibians, marsupials, mammals....etc, why pin the blame on foxes when your own indeginous wildlife have carried and spread pathogens for many centuries? Pathogens are a worry to every species....and cannot be resolved by exterminating foxes....perhaps we should kill every species just to make sure....lol!
No not at all, dogs have proved very useful in the military, army, navy, as guide dogs, therapy dogs, companions etc...but hunting with them is outdated, treacherous and ill-fashioned...we have better uses for dogs than to kill prey we won't eat....and more advanced and humane methods of killing animals we will eat.....
More humane , like poison, have you ever seen a fox killed by a pack of hounds. The first hound to catch it kills it with one bite, unlike poisen where it takes hours to die. Admit it mate you are one of those greeny animal libber types who want all hunting banned. Your comments have verged on rediculus and your knoledge of farming and foxes appears to be from antihunting leaflets.
Yep, seen firsthand foxes killed by hounds/terriers. And no, very rarely are they killed with one bite, they usually die from disembowelment. Poison kills everything that eats it....a more humane method is shooting, provided the range/ load etc is up to scratch...and the aim of course! My opinions are based on fact, you just don't want to accept it...your problem not mine...
should have slotted that fox, especially, like the bunny its not in digenous. i live in the lake district uk. its been heart breaking watching the american grey squirrel displace the red over the last 15 years. you would be surprised how many people would take and are taking action, from all walks of life. sometimes conservation requires what may be perceived as harsh measures. no im not a gamekeeper/hunter, im an alarm engineer who meets a lot of ordinary rural people.
I probobly shot him eventually. When my ewes started lambing I shot all I could using the ute and spotlight. Then I changed tactics and walked around the sheep at night with a scope mounted red spotlight. With that I was able to shoot the cunning ones. Some nights I saw foxes working the edges of mobs of sheep trying to seperate lambs from their mothers, before I shot them.
Oh I forgot, you live in Oz....maybe you have a breed of super-fox over there that is far bigger, more aggressive, more cunning, and far more dangerous to farmers than has been known elsewhere in the world.....or it's just pretty much a bog-standard fox.... Everyone looks for a scapegoat to replace their own failures....
They are just English foxes introduced by the English to remind them of home. The fact is that every fox I kill saves our native wildlife we love. They also kill healthy and somethimes big lambs. I have a photo I took a couple of months ago of a fox I shot, while killing a big healthy lamb. The fox died on top of the blood covered lamb which was still alive but died soon after as it was badly bitten on the neck and had lost a lot of blood.
Yes it is a shame that the English loved their hobby so much they inflicted it on you. The english foxes we have can't kill strong healthy lambs. Badgers can, PERHAPS highland foxes, but the sheep are taken off the highlands for lambing season. Our native foxes aren't strong enough to snap a big healthy lambs neck...they just take the easy dead or dying ones....Post the photo...
I do not think you know what you are talking about.
Stop making claims you have no proof for. If you dont believe foxes can kill big healthy lambs keep living in your dream world, the rest of us have the need for reality. I have seen foxes chase and catch week old healthy lambs. I Have also seen how certain foxes will only kill to eat certain parts of the lamb like the kidneys. I have also had to kill still strong lamns after a fox has eaten the toungs and left the lambs to slowly die.
When you can post evidence of foxes chasing and killing these big healthy lambs then I'll take your word for it...or better yet..have a chat to english farmers who don't lose any healthy lambs to foxes and they can give you a few pointers that clearly you desperately need....
well truth is, humans moving in, tearing down woodlands/forests takes away from the natural wildlife homes/population which forces them out and away from the area, leaving foxes, cyotes to go to hunting what is readily avalible.
Foxes are just as bad in the bush, killing small Marsupials and ground nesting birds. They have caused the extinction of several species and need to be reduced in population as much as possable. They are an introduced pest.
Some foxes get a taste for toungs and can eat them out without killing the lambs. It is not a good job each morning killing all the mutilated lambs left behind.
I heard crows have started doing the same thing, i guess controlling nature is a never ending strugle. Kill the foxes and something else will take their place.
Ye ask how much ur council spends on killing rats and mice and pigeons because there pests, yet when the farmer kills something that he deems a pest we have the hypocritical morons from the animal welfare shouting MURDER!!!! pathetic!
If a lamb is still alive hours after it was attacked it was not weak. Ewes have trouble protecting both twins at the same time, and they are not as quick and agile as a fox.
My experience of foxes NOT taking healthy lambs?! Yes they take the stillborns and the weaklings. Saves the farmers money to pay the hunt to remove them. Now that the hunt have to worm the hounds due to them them spreading liver flukes to the lambs, they charge the farmers for carcass removal to cover (amongst others) costs for actually WORMING their dogs.....!!! The farmers gladly see the foxes removing the waste lambs. Saves them the money the hunt would cost them....
Hounds spreading liver fluke? Now I have heard everything. The Fluke worm lives in the livers of sheep and eggs are excreted in manure. The larvee then need to get into the right species of water snail which lives in very slowly moving water. Once mature the Fluke then leavesthe snail and climbs moist grass and waits to be eaten by a herbivore to complete its life cycle. I can not work out where you think hounds fit into this cycle and think you are talking out your ass.
'With mounted riders and hunt hounds typically crossing up to 50 farm boundaries in a day, hunts pose a very serious threat in the spread of disease such as Foot and Mouth, TB, Brucellosis, Liver Fluke, Leptospirosis, BVD, Trichinosis and Sarcocystosis can be carried from farm to farm by hunt members, hunt vehicles, foxhounds and on the hooves of horses. Furthermore, foxhounds are known to be carriers of infectious parasites that can prove fatal if passed on to livestock.' ...as stated by DEFRA!
So what you say is that all farms should be quarintene areas and nobody should have acces due to the possability of disease transfer, so all foxes should be poisened instead. You have no empethy for wildlife wanting them to die slowly from poisen, I carnt believe how cruel you are. As for fox hounds carrying diseases, there is a remote possability of this, unlike foxes which certainly do carry diseases.
Your argument for fox eradication due to this has meret but in countries such as the UK where they are native most sensable people would prefer to have foxes.
hi thanks for showing these antis dont think or care about what damage foxes do. they wouldnt be as many foxes if i lived over there, id love to go exploring your amasing country thanks
Not yet, but I am sure after all the camera flashes he has seen he should no be to woried about the spotlight. The flash does not worry him at all, just keeps eating.
Nice pics! A msg for snake 1694, its wankers like u that have no idea of the way things are in th real world that get my blood boiling! U think all anaimals deserve to live, well news flash arsehole foxes kill for a living and in this country they arnt native.therefore shouldnt all the animals that they kill deserve to be alive even more?? so wats wrong with removing this wrongly introduced animal so the natives can survive. Go back to ur arm chair to watch the world from inside ur little bubble
yarrahapinni 1 year ago
@yarrahapinni Yeah there is this other animal called humans. they are destroying the plannet, maybe we should control their numbers too.
lightpaws25 1 year ago 4
silence of the lambs much?
chrislander1212 1 year ago
No Jack ass that wasn't my point my point is don't just kill an animal for no reason except for the fact that u can. I'm not a vegetarian or
any thing meat is good for you and yeah some times I think we kill off too many cows and there are no ugly animals there all great in there own way.
Snake1694 1 year ago
@cookietheman1234: it wrong alot of people care to u it may be a smelly creature but to others it's a beutiful animal that deserves to live who the fuck are u to say that an animals life is meaningless
Snake1694 1 year ago
So do you decide on which animals deserves to live by how beautiful they are. Do you only eat hamburgers made from ugly cows.
ckmonty 1 year ago 11
Foxes are da best animal eva! If it wasnt for them there would be a million rabbits and mice and earth! Srew people that hate foxes they are idiots.
Beanpup9 1 year ago 4
@Beanpup9 In case you did not notice I am in Australia where foxes are not native. Here they have caused the exinction of many unique Marsuipals and will wipe more out if not contained. The also kill around 30% of lambs born, even though sone people wish not to believe this fact. In countries such as England where they are native they sould remain, but this does not meen their numbers shoulsnot be controlling.
ckmonty 1 year ago
@ckmonty and only one species can be blamed for all that. humans.
ballin7077 10 months ago
@Beanpup9 rabbit invasion lol but i agree
reptifreak99 7 months ago
kill foxes who cares how,,, no one gives a fuck about pathogens you dick shut up
Cookietheman1234 1 year ago
@Cookietheman1234:They should kill u u fuck head!
blackwolfkodi 1 year ago
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Cookietheman1234 1 year ago
@ kaeso100
I completly agree with you.
Holister951 1 year ago
Did you not read it right...the FOXHOUNDS spread and carry disease to livestock not foxes....You were the one who stated foxhounds don't spread liver flukes...not me... I'm pointing out that hunting foxes does more harm than leaving them alone...
kaeso100 2 years ago
Diseases such as Hydatis are spread by carnivores eating offal from animals which died or had of those diseases. Fox hounds are fed clean meat, not offal. Foxes live off anything they can find such as the remains of dead stock. The fox in my pictures you are commenting on is eating offal form a dead sheep, which possably contains pathogens which it will spread. That is evidence, what evidence do you have of hound doing the same.
ckmonty 2 years ago
You've clearly not understood. Foxhounds were fed the dead carcasses of livestock, and so spread disease and parasites when out hunting. Now hounds MUST be wormed BECAUSE of this. If you have any arguement with hounds spreading disease then, you need to take this arguement up with DEFRA, the agricultrural governing body for the UK, they are the ones who have DEMANDED increased pastural care for hounds to PROTECT livestock from the worms and parasites the hounds spread across the countryside....
kaeso100 2 years ago
The evidence? I have already posted a statement from DEFRA, stating the disease and parasites that hounds spread to livestock...!!! DEFRA analysed the amount of parasites and disease the hounds spread when they were previously fed raw livestock carcasses and NOT WORMED....Now DEFRA have dictated that hounds ARE wormed and treated to help prevent their carrying of disease and parasites to livestock...as I said, if you don't like it, take your arguement up with DEFRA.....You can't argue fact....
kaeso100 2 years ago
This is about foxes not hounds. Why are you and DEFRA not worried about foxes spreading Pathogens. My pictures are of foxes eating offal from a dead sheep and raw meat. Foxes are never wormed and travel over hundreads of properties an do so every night. What are you going to do about this, who do you blame.
ckmonty 2 years ago
Many animals and humans carry pathogens, not just foxes..., but also reptiles, amphibians, marsupials, mammals....etc, why pin the blame on foxes when your own indeginous wildlife have carried and spread pathogens for many centuries? Pathogens are a worry to every species....and cannot be resolved by exterminating foxes....perhaps we should kill every species just to make sure....lol!
kaeso100 2 years ago
Why are you so against hounds then.
Do you want all dog ownersip banned.
ckmonty 2 years ago
No not at all, dogs have proved very useful in the military, army, navy, as guide dogs, therapy dogs, companions etc...but hunting with them is outdated, treacherous and ill-fashioned...we have better uses for dogs than to kill prey we won't eat....and more advanced and humane methods of killing animals we will eat.....
kaeso100 2 years ago
More humane , like poison, have you ever seen a fox killed by a pack of hounds. The first hound to catch it kills it with one bite, unlike poisen where it takes hours to die. Admit it mate you are one of those greeny animal libber types who want all hunting banned. Your comments have verged on rediculus and your knoledge of farming and foxes appears to be from antihunting leaflets.
ckmonty 2 years ago
Yep, seen firsthand foxes killed by hounds/terriers. And no, very rarely are they killed with one bite, they usually die from disembowelment. Poison kills everything that eats it....a more humane method is shooting, provided the range/ load etc is up to scratch...and the aim of course! My opinions are based on fact, you just don't want to accept it...your problem not mine...
kaeso100 2 years ago
should have slotted that fox, especially, like the bunny its not in digenous. i live in the lake district uk. its been heart breaking watching the american grey squirrel displace the red over the last 15 years. you would be surprised how many people would take and are taking action, from all walks of life. sometimes conservation requires what may be perceived as harsh measures. no im not a gamekeeper/hunter, im an alarm engineer who meets a lot of ordinary rural people.
rozkendal 2 years ago
I probobly shot him eventually. When my ewes started lambing I shot all I could using the ute and spotlight. Then I changed tactics and walked around the sheep at night with a scope mounted red spotlight. With that I was able to shoot the cunning ones. Some nights I saw foxes working the edges of mobs of sheep trying to seperate lambs from their mothers, before I shot them.
ckmonty 2 years ago
Oh I forgot, you live in Oz....maybe you have a breed of super-fox over there that is far bigger, more aggressive, more cunning, and far more dangerous to farmers than has been known elsewhere in the world.....or it's just pretty much a bog-standard fox.... Everyone looks for a scapegoat to replace their own failures....
kaeso100 2 years ago
They are just English foxes introduced by the English to remind them of home. The fact is that every fox I kill saves our native wildlife we love. They also kill healthy and somethimes big lambs. I have a photo I took a couple of months ago of a fox I shot, while killing a big healthy lamb. The fox died on top of the blood covered lamb which was still alive but died soon after as it was badly bitten on the neck and had lost a lot of blood.
ckmonty 2 years ago
Yes it is a shame that the English loved their hobby so much they inflicted it on you. The english foxes we have can't kill strong healthy lambs. Badgers can, PERHAPS highland foxes, but the sheep are taken off the highlands for lambing season. Our native foxes aren't strong enough to snap a big healthy lambs neck...they just take the easy dead or dying ones....Post the photo...
kaeso100 2 years ago
What are u talking about not strong enough to kill a lamb, where did u get this information from???
phoenix1916 2 years ago
Not strong enough to kill a viable lamb, and this information comes from the mouths of sheep farmers in England.
kaeso100 2 years ago
Viable lamb???
phoenix1916 2 years ago
Yes, viable...if you don't even know what a viable lamb is then you shouldn't be claiming foxes can kill them....
kaeso100 2 years ago
I do not think you know what you are talking about.
Stop making claims you have no proof for. If you dont believe foxes can kill big healthy lambs keep living in your dream world, the rest of us have the need for reality. I have seen foxes chase and catch week old healthy lambs. I Have also seen how certain foxes will only kill to eat certain parts of the lamb like the kidneys. I have also had to kill still strong lamns after a fox has eaten the toungs and left the lambs to slowly die.
ckmonty 2 years ago
When you can post evidence of foxes chasing and killing these big healthy lambs then I'll take your word for it...or better yet..have a chat to english farmers who don't lose any healthy lambs to foxes and they can give you a few pointers that clearly you desperately need....
kaeso100 2 years ago
Stop posting inane crap what is a viable lamb????
phoenix1916 2 years ago
well truth is, humans moving in, tearing down woodlands/forests takes away from the natural wildlife homes/population which forces them out and away from the area, leaving foxes, cyotes to go to hunting what is readily avalible.
YarrowElfwind 2 years ago
Foxes are just as bad in the bush, killing small Marsupials and ground nesting birds. They have caused the extinction of several species and need to be reduced in population as much as possable. They are an introduced pest.
ckmonty 2 years ago
Some foxes get a taste for toungs and can eat them out without killing the lambs. It is not a good job each morning killing all the mutilated lambs left behind.
ckmonty 3 years ago
I heard crows have started doing the same thing, i guess controlling nature is a never ending strugle. Kill the foxes and something else will take their place.
tjmac7 2 years ago
Ye ask how much ur council spends on killing rats and mice and pigeons because there pests, yet when the farmer kills something that he deems a pest we have the hypocritical morons from the animal welfare shouting MURDER!!!! pathetic!
phoenix1916 2 years ago
And what do the ewes do? Just stand there? Plus you must be talking about very weak and non-viable lambs....
kaeso100 2 years ago
If a lamb is still alive hours after it was attacked it was not weak. Ewes have trouble protecting both twins at the same time, and they are not as quick and agile as a fox.
ckmonty 2 years ago
I've never known a strong lamb taken by a fox..... Maybe you should take better care of your livestock....
kaeso100 2 years ago
Maybe You should tell us your experiance, I dont think you have much knoledge on the subject.
ckmonty 2 years ago
My experience of foxes NOT taking healthy lambs?! Yes they take the stillborns and the weaklings. Saves the farmers money to pay the hunt to remove them. Now that the hunt have to worm the hounds due to them them spreading liver flukes to the lambs, they charge the farmers for carcass removal to cover (amongst others) costs for actually WORMING their dogs.....!!! The farmers gladly see the foxes removing the waste lambs. Saves them the money the hunt would cost them....
kaeso100 2 years ago
Hounds spreading liver fluke? Now I have heard everything. The Fluke worm lives in the livers of sheep and eggs are excreted in manure. The larvee then need to get into the right species of water snail which lives in very slowly moving water. Once mature the Fluke then leavesthe snail and climbs moist grass and waits to be eaten by a herbivore to complete its life cycle. I can not work out where you think hounds fit into this cycle and think you are talking out your ass.
ckmonty 2 years ago
'With mounted riders and hunt hounds typically crossing up to 50 farm boundaries in a day, hunts pose a very serious threat in the spread of disease such as Foot and Mouth, TB, Brucellosis, Liver Fluke, Leptospirosis, BVD, Trichinosis and Sarcocystosis can be carried from farm to farm by hunt members, hunt vehicles, foxhounds and on the hooves of horses. Furthermore, foxhounds are known to be carriers of infectious parasites that can prove fatal if passed on to livestock.' ...as stated by DEFRA!
kaeso100 2 years ago
So what you say is that all farms should be quarintene areas and nobody should have acces due to the possability of disease transfer, so all foxes should be poisened instead. You have no empethy for wildlife wanting them to die slowly from poisen, I carnt believe how cruel you are. As for fox hounds carrying diseases, there is a remote possability of this, unlike foxes which certainly do carry diseases.
ckmonty 2 years ago
Your argument for fox eradication due to this has meret but in countries such as the UK where they are native most sensable people would prefer to have foxes.
ckmonty 2 years ago
hi thanks for showing these antis dont think or care about what damage foxes do. they wouldnt be as many foxes if i lived over there, id love to go exploring your amasing country thanks
mushymush12 3 years ago
was the sheep a victim of feral dogs??
DenwarTheoriginal 3 years ago
That one died of natural causes. When you have livestock you will have dead stock at times.
ckmonty 3 years ago
Not yet, but I am sure after all the camera flashes he has seen he should no be to woried about the spotlight. The flash does not worry him at all, just keeps eating.
ckmonty 3 years ago
Ta for posting the Damage that Foxes can do,
hope he got his Lead injection that it needed
philby1979 3 years ago