BMW 524td e28 turbo diesel test drive, 40% more power

[kalebwalker13]

great car!, i have an 87 bmw 535i and they are great, dependable, and VERY fun to drive!

[stefan2meter]

Just bought an E34 524td (1988) today, with the intention of getting similar power out of it too... so I was wondering what 'fine tuning' has been done to the head? And is that 1.5 bar (22psi) on the stock turbo?

[ermalkoci]

Love your car, love the BMW in general.

[riverman33]

damn man!

bimmer rules!

[Danibua]

hast einen 524tds draus gemacht :) sehr schönes Auto !!!

[p200mmx]

My 84 td is even faster, but only downhill, I clocked it up to 235km/h hahahaha. Seriosly, mine with stock tires (175/70 R14) can reach 200km/h easily and the engine stile stock with 115km done. The problem with the stock tires is understeer, lots of understeer.

[AndreiMsauCalu]

i wondering for the modified one the mcanical injection has a pressure sensor? if ies the injection setteing can work with high efficienty at low boost? like 0.1- 0.2 ? i meen the injection is now set for a higher flow of diesel always or only in high boost? can the car still get 8 l of diesel /100km in city if not raced with?

[craig9843]

I would never do that to a car. Way too nice of a car to do that.

[perkinsmaster]

lol ? das ist dochn 6 zylinder un im vergleich zum D24 TDIC von volvo (VW) der auch keine 130 ps sondern nur 122 und das mit LLK hat ! läuft ein bmw wesendlich ruhiger nur so zur info ;-)

[cebolael1]

notables prestaciones y estado del coche!

[tm10ptw]

So, what modifications has the engine that it is now so powerfull(i see there an intercooler, but apart from that)? i'm interested in a 324td E30 and i'm considering modifications to make it a bit more competitive.

[JaRb190]

Very nice and powerful BMW!

[CICHYDrift]

COOL TD!!!

[shotwurst]

einfach nur geil :] bmw rulez

[panther4524]

Great job, stupidbychoice, you've made a great job with your car, and you maintained it very well. I have a BMW 324 TD, and I think the engine is very good, and actually pretty fast for a diesel at that time.

[mofaaksl90]

Geile Sache... Seid ihr eig. sone Art Club?

[SargentoDuke]

No way to install the intercooler :(, i unknow to install the pipes, and 525tds intercoler didnt work cuz 524td has oilcooler on same space... what intercooler you used? volvo one?

Javier, mi 524 acelera igual que un 525tds.

El montaje seria un intercooler pegado detras del radiador, tocar el tornillo de la wastegate, y punto... yo busco los tubos!!!

[julianir]

Se lo estoy por poner al mío,me dijeron que no llegue al de aceite,el del saab 9000 cómo va?

[SargentoDuke]

como? si quieres dame tu email y hablamos.

[ldorman]

Dezent und böse...

In AT hatte ein Freund einen 524td E28. Ich hab das Handling geliebt wenn ich mit dem am Semmering über die kleinen Bergstrassen raufgefahren bin, sehr einfach zu kontrolieren, finde ich zumindest.

[javiergonzalor2005]

Hello I have one 524td e34, want to know that I can do in order that it(he,she) covers mas rapidly since for my it(he) is slow, that you advise me, to put him intercooler? Do you speak espanish???, me gustaria know some topics of the cylinder head of 524td

[burekar]

Awesome tuning dude. Which intercooler did you go for and does it smoke a lot more now that it is at 190hp?

[Shadowpillar]

haha nice, one like that nearby is for sale for $700

it's a shame it has a bent valve.

I still want it.

[eoghancbc]

What sort of modifications were done to that E28? How does it have so much power,especially when Diesels from that time were so slow that walking would have been faster? It goes extremely fast for a diesel of that time. Of course a new 525d would be much faster, but your E28 has a lot more than the 116 bhp its supposed to have.

[stupidbychoice]

Currently it has a output of 192HP and 395Nm at 1,5bar boost pressure. Bottom end of the engine is stock but cylinder head is finetuned. Boost-pressure-enrichement-dev­ice of the injection pump was further improved. A 525d would have no chance at all due its additional weight!

I think a well maintained 524td with its original rating is´nt slow at all, once in a time it was the fastest diesel passenger car of the world!

[eoghancbc]

Oh well if it now has 192 bhp, then I agree with you, an E28 is so much lighter than the E60, I just wouldn't have said that the car in the video had 192 bhp, more like 150-160 bhp!

How fast is a stock 524td?(0-100 and top speed).

It is hard to believe that 20 years ago 116 bhp from a diesel was enough to be the fastest diesel car in the world :rolleyes:! Diesels have improved so much since then, nowadays we have the 6.0 litre Audi Q7 TDi with 500 bhp!

[Gierap]

Well it's true and you must belive it,when BMW put 524TD on the market it was the fastest diesel on the world,you must remember it was mid 80s and diesel engines by other company was slow,noisy and most of this engines was't have an turbo.M21D24 by BMW had turbo,6 cylinders and 2.4l so it was a hell of disel when in this time VW had 1.5/1.6 4 cylinders non-turbo noisy diesel in his cars.

[michaelovitch]

You forgot the d24 engine (volskwagen audi volvo) it's a 6 cylinder 2.4 liters 80 hp in na and 130 hp in turbo .

it has torque, rev high 5400 rpm and not noisy clang clang like the 4 bangers !

I've got 2 of them and they sound quite the same as the bmw engine but a little less feline it's true.

[SakoTGrimes]

No.

[slave2school]

Yes.

[SakoTGrimes]

I don't even remember what I said no to.

[SargentoDuke]

Thanks, now i need a way to install an intercooler :/

i have an IC from a 525tds, i unkow to connect it to turbo & admission. The injection has been modified by my mechanic (he said something about a primary injector, filter)

[SargentoDuke]

524td was the first bmw great dieselcar... the engine is stupid designed (12valve m21 type, with a BIG turbo with wastegate, and a great cooling system... but cilinder internal temperature be so HOT, cause a intercooler can make the "fragile" 524 a GTI killer!

I need that handtune... you just can install a rear diff from a 535M or alpina, that make you car better aceleration, and cornering.

[stupidbychoice]

Hi Duke, if you want to boost the output of your e34 524td you will have to increase the boost pressure as well as the setting of the injection pump. On a e28 it can be done by a harder spring on the wastegate and a modified boost-pressure-enrichement-dev­ice of the injection pump respectively.

The electronic injection-system of an 524td e34 is a completely different matter since it has two control-boxes vs. the straight mechanic injection pump and boost control of the e28 td.

[eoghancbc]

the old petrol BMWs(the more powerful one especially) do that too is it the transmission that causes it? I hate the sound of it, you cant hear the straight 6 petrol as well as you should :)

[stupidbychoice]

Hi, transmission is stock. 5sp. manual with LSD (gear ratio 3,15). M21 are loud when they are idling, okay, but at speed most people actually won´t identify it as an diesel-engine.

[SargentoDuke]

WHAT KIND OF UPGRADE??? near 230kmph! please, i need 2 tune my 524!

[1984AP]

Wow that's a cool 524td. I love that whine at 1:07-1:08 during take-off. Apparently this can only be heard on manual transmissions. My 533i auto. only has a slight whine from 3-8 mph. Your car bolts through those first 2 gears! What's the torque and hp?

[SargentoDuke]

My car is one of last 524's, a 1992 e34 524td "m" with a max speed of 200kmph, rear self-block-diff, is a beast on corners, but i blew engine one time (500km@180km/h), with my new exaust and repair. What kind of "HANDTUNE" you do to your e28? stainless steel pipes & bis intercooler? you touch the T3 wastegate?

[chriswarlock234]

gscheid power