@rmsolympic1 let a knuckle head come to you and start throwing punches he will miss everyone, its hard to explain unless you've seen a skilled fighter go up against a street fighter who's just throwing random punches and haymakers trying to land a knock out blow and gasses out in like 20 seconds.
@rmsolympic1 It's really for experienced fighters. Can't just learn the shoulder-roll and go to a street fight using it as an advantage without training in a ring. A good example is Mayweather Jr. Perfected shoulder-roll. Every thrown punch at him hits and slides up his shoulders leading to minimal damage.
The guy in the middle shouldve showed us how to do these those 2 knuckleheads on his sides look like their having a seizure standing up or something lol il knock those 2 dudes off the ring, dudes soft.
@schassis lol i know right, like if the teacher is teaching them how to do it wrong and to also show us (youtubers) on video as an example....then the teacher is not teaching them the proper way or he just sucks aswell. Anyways....if i want to learn i have to learn from the best, and the best at the moment is floyd mayweather. ive watched his training videos and disected it piece by piece mixing it with my own practice and its alot more helpful. Goodluck to you.
I don't like the shoulder roll all that much. If you're not physically talented, it'll probably be hard to pull off. It basically is a tool to smother your opponents punches. But if the opponent is smart enough to take a step back, he'll catch you. Only time I would ever recommend doing the shoulder roll is if you're on the inside.
@nikkyg9021 True. It's not always a smart idea to get hit over the guard. There's techniques where you purposely hit the guard to create an opening. Shoulder roll is one good way to avoid getting rushed and keeping your balance.
This is great defense Ive used it many times in the ring and its the best defense ive had fighting. Its really hard to get any good hits in if this defense is learned right.
I think it should be re-titled to Shoulder Roll DEMONATRATION. Because, sorry there just is NOT a lot of INSTRUCTION going on. It would be nice to see how to properly use against the punches. Anyways, thanks for the demo. :-S
It looks like they are trying to mix the conventional right handed stance up with the shoulder roll stance, wrong angles wrong footwork. These guys would get beat the hell up. This looks more like what James McGirt used to do and he always took a beating.
@shkotay there isnt a "shoulder roll" stance, granted you have to do it in a certain way but there isnt a specific stance you need to be in. just like bobing and weaving. and i dont know about the footwork my grandpa and his helper Joe taught me different ways to use the roll (stay in place to counter or just move away and slip the punch) so the footwork isnt necessarily wrong here theyre just showing the basics of it.
@TheArkham13asylum Agreed to a certain degree but you hve to be able to parry or defelect with the shoulder in order to make it effective which means turned at a good angle, head down and away from the angle of attack otherwise you have an open avenue for the right hand straight to your head. But you are right, there is no SET way, but not facing forward for me was always a critical portion of making it work. Angles always are the key.
@thebelgian oh my bad that explains it hes a nba basketball champion even shaq cant box they doing the shoulder roll wrong watch some floyd or james toney vids
@davidsaso1234 the point im trying to make is there off balance and doing it all wrong watch how floyd shoulder rolls and watch his legs he dont twist his front leg all stupid like they do he maintains proper balance thats why hes never been knocked down. You need a strong base if not whatever your doing is going to fail. I know boxers dont defense against kicks but im pretty sure you couldnt knock down mike tyson with a leg kick these guys you can there horrible.
maybe it's just me, because i know crap about boxing, but it seems to me that the shoulder roll demonstrated on the right is close to turning your back to an opponent.
like i said, i'm by no means a connoisseur of boxing, but anytime i watch mayweather or judah fight, they're already practically standing sideways.. when they do their shoulder roll, it seems like they're basically just turning their backs...
i assume there should be a point where this move should be illegal???
@elnegrobembon I see what you're saying. I've seen the shoulder roll used in a more "self defense" type situation, although not as a *primary method of defense*. More of a "oh crap, I dropped my hands/was trapped" and there's a punch coming at my head" sort of moment. Even then, it isn't fantastic, but, you do what you gotta do in the moment.
To see someone use it fairly beautifully (in a boxing setting) check out Floyd Mayweather.
but actually, i've seen mayweather fights and i've seen him do this often...
he's actually the one that made me think this move should be illegal past a certain point.
i was watching the mayweather/hatton fight the other day, and hatton was even complaining that floyd was turning his back.
the way you describe it and the way it's demonstrated in the vid seems ok, but sometimes it seems the idea is that you can't get hit in the back... so just shoulder roll a lot
@elnegrobembon Oh, yes, I agree with you entirely on that front.
You see the same abuse of safety rules in the UFC where guys bury their head on the ground so they "can't" take a knee to the face, or put their hand on the ground so as not to get kicked. It's silly, but, like they say... hate the game not the player.
That would be hard to do when some one leg kicks you off balance. Then you could throw whatever you can til they get back into position. Ver effective in boxing. How would a mayweather vs james toney(skinnier and younger one) play out? And is there any bag that i can get to practice this effectively?
@snwbrderboi03 hehe, nah, GSP'd mop the floor with Floyd. But, think about a knife or a looping hook/beer bottle coming at your head, in close range. Or, think of a moment where your hands have been trapped to your chest Wing Chun style, or you've simply fallen for a fake or dropped your hands. Those are some applicable times.
Yeah, I can see how It'd be pretty annoying to try and deck someone who's doing moving around like the guy on the left...right looks a little easier and more predictable though.
It's not nonsense. It worked for James Toney and Floyd Mayweather Jr. Both very successful defensive boxers. But nikkyg9021, keeping your hands up does work, that's why ALL professional boxers do it. Ever see Roy Jones take hits ? yeah, that guy has his hands down, except when he's getting thundered. Then they're up. That's how you defend yourself.
This works, but as with anything, you need skill to implement it, otherwise you'll get hammered.
philly shell baby! almost untouchable if done correctly
xXBeastfromdaEastXx 1 week ago
Mayweathers best move
Hopsin360 1 month ago
How is this stuff for street fighting?
rmsolympic1 4 months ago
@rmsolympic1 let a knuckle head come to you and start throwing punches he will miss everyone, its hard to explain unless you've seen a skilled fighter go up against a street fighter who's just throwing random punches and haymakers trying to land a knock out blow and gasses out in like 20 seconds.
schassis 3 months ago
@rmsolympic1 It's really for experienced fighters. Can't just learn the shoulder-roll and go to a street fight using it as an advantage without training in a ring. A good example is Mayweather Jr. Perfected shoulder-roll. Every thrown punch at him hits and slides up his shoulders leading to minimal damage.
HuyyNguyen 2 months ago
this helps me because im learning how to box soon
chicaneon 7 months ago
@chicaneon cool story
wutup5566 7 months ago 5
this teach this in a couple gyms here in philly and these guys look awkward
jonashoward21 7 months ago
@jonashoward21 yea they do LOL i was thinking the same thing
schassis 3 months ago
cunts
KINGTAZER 7 months ago
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vistaway3008 7 months ago
The guy in the middle shouldve showed us how to do these those 2 knuckleheads on his sides look like their having a seizure standing up or something lol il knock those 2 dudes off the ring, dudes soft.
MrChannel5news 7 months ago
@MrChannel5news dude seriously they did look a little okward
schassis 3 months ago
@schassis lol i know right, like if the teacher is teaching them how to do it wrong and to also show us (youtubers) on video as an example....then the teacher is not teaching them the proper way or he just sucks aswell. Anyways....if i want to learn i have to learn from the best, and the best at the moment is floyd mayweather. ive watched his training videos and disected it piece by piece mixing it with my own practice and its alot more helpful. Goodluck to you.
MrChannel5news 3 months ago
I don't like the shoulder roll all that much. If you're not physically talented, it'll probably be hard to pull off. It basically is a tool to smother your opponents punches. But if the opponent is smart enough to take a step back, he'll catch you. Only time I would ever recommend doing the shoulder roll is if you're on the inside.
K2ThaPhukkinC 7 months ago
carlitoboxing boxing is not dead if u keep sayin that ull b dead
playgroundpervert 7 months ago
BOXING IS DEAD
Gspsmashedyou 7 months ago
that dude means business on the left
yadiragalindo 8 months ago
@nikkyg9021 Great job and this is more like Floy style yeap its cool fight smart like Floy
dreamwarior1 8 months ago
wanna learn the shoulder roll and counter punch? go watch james toney fights
carlitoboxing 8 months ago
@carlitoboxing So true!
jonathan2002ga 7 months ago
Some people here are retarded. You can see shoulder rolls being used frequently by top professionals even in MMA or kickboxing.
devilonthebay 9 months ago
@nikkyg9021 True. It's not always a smart idea to get hit over the guard. There's techniques where you purposely hit the guard to create an opening. Shoulder roll is one good way to avoid getting rushed and keeping your balance.
devilonthebay 9 months ago
why did the guy below me, copy and past 3 times?
TheMrAsianK 9 months ago
This is great defense Ive used it many times in the ring and its the best defense ive had fighting. Its really hard to get any good hits in if this defense is learned right.
SURMedinaX3 9 months ago
This is great defense Ive used it many times in the ring and its the best defense ive had fighting.
SURMedinaX3 9 months ago
this is great defense Ive used it many times in the ring and its the best defense ive had fighting.
SURMedinaX3 9 months ago
wanna know how to do a real shoulde roll? go watch a floyd mayweather defensive video
allentown18 9 months ago
these guy never got anywhere.... like me
Mentakebubblebath 9 months ago
these guys are idiots lol
hunip098 9 months ago
@nikkyg9021 100% correct, respect from london, pro boxer
abujameel2010 10 months ago
guy on the right does it almost perfect. only thing is that his leaves his temple wide open. he should bring his right hand to cover that.
StreetArtillery 10 months ago
I feel like giving the guy on the left a uppercut, try that "shoulder roll" now bitch!!
HiralShah00 10 months ago
guy on right, put your hands up. You're not lucian bute
Reversification 11 months ago
I think it should be re-titled to Shoulder Roll DEMONATRATION. Because, sorry there just is NOT a lot of INSTRUCTION going on. It would be nice to see how to properly use against the punches. Anyways, thanks for the demo. :-S
GJJFan 11 months ago
nice video... next time, can you teach how to accuse someone ?
ikawpipa 11 months ago
@nikkyg9021 lol nice point lmfao
streetboxing7493 11 months ago
@nikkyg9021 Well, I guess its what you are most comfartable with that you should do.
You should not try to do something if youre not comfortable with it.
What works for you might not work for tha other guy etc...
connymat 11 months ago
Sounds like the guy who is speaking got hit too many times in the mouth area.
TacoBetts 1 year ago
guy in the middle: well this is awkward
lakersfan132 1 year ago
It looks like they are trying to mix the conventional right handed stance up with the shoulder roll stance, wrong angles wrong footwork. These guys would get beat the hell up. This looks more like what James McGirt used to do and he always took a beating.
shkotay 1 year ago
@shkotay there isnt a "shoulder roll" stance, granted you have to do it in a certain way but there isnt a specific stance you need to be in. just like bobing and weaving. and i dont know about the footwork my grandpa and his helper Joe taught me different ways to use the roll (stay in place to counter or just move away and slip the punch) so the footwork isnt necessarily wrong here theyre just showing the basics of it.
TheArkham13asylum 11 months ago
@TheArkham13asylum Agreed to a certain degree but you hve to be able to parry or defelect with the shoulder in order to make it effective which means turned at a good angle, head down and away from the angle of attack otherwise you have an open avenue for the right hand straight to your head. But you are right, there is no SET way, but not facing forward for me was always a critical portion of making it work. Angles always are the key.
shkotay 11 months ago
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
81gregorian 1 year ago
the guy on the right is like looking away and thats why he is gonna get caught with a hook
kevindashid 1 year ago
@thebelgian oh my bad that explains it hes a nba basketball champion even shaq cant box they doing the shoulder roll wrong watch some floyd or james toney vids
beenz08 1 year ago
what is rolf??
killlerzoo 1 year ago
that was alott of help
mario6279 1 year ago
@davidsaso1234 the point im trying to make is there off balance and doing it all wrong watch how floyd shoulder rolls and watch his legs he dont twist his front leg all stupid like they do he maintains proper balance thats why hes never been knocked down. You need a strong base if not whatever your doing is going to fail. I know boxers dont defense against kicks but im pretty sure you couldnt knock down mike tyson with a leg kick these guys you can there horrible.
beenz08 1 year ago
@beenz08 this is box... it's not design to take kicks...
davidsaso1234 1 year ago
teach them how to fuck
69taxiboy 1 year ago
I dont understand - the shoulder roll is still going to get you hit
dillmon1 1 year ago
the guy on the right dunt evn no wot hes duin
MrBillyb24590 1 year ago
l like that guy's sneakers :D
GandiTheGunner 1 year ago
lol
hamza1991 1 year ago
i love how James Tony perfected this and came back with the right hand against so many opponents.
trailstar1 1 year ago 8
that retarded Allstate dude is taking too much time from my youtube videos
huavali 1 year ago
What's this? A dance? -.-
GoldenRobertinoThai 1 year ago
maybe it's just me, because i know crap about boxing, but it seems to me that the shoulder roll demonstrated on the right is close to turning your back to an opponent.
like i said, i'm by no means a connoisseur of boxing, but anytime i watch mayweather or judah fight, they're already practically standing sideways.. when they do their shoulder roll, it seems like they're basically just turning their backs...
i assume there should be a point where this move should be illegal???
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon I see what you're saying. I've seen the shoulder roll used in a more "self defense" type situation, although not as a *primary method of defense*. More of a "oh crap, I dropped my hands/was trapped" and there's a punch coming at my head" sort of moment. Even then, it isn't fantastic, but, you do what you gotta do in the moment.
To see someone use it fairly beautifully (in a boxing setting) check out Floyd Mayweather.
ShinkaTV 1 year ago
@ShinkaTV
i see what you mean.
but actually, i've seen mayweather fights and i've seen him do this often...
he's actually the one that made me think this move should be illegal past a certain point.
i was watching the mayweather/hatton fight the other day, and hatton was even complaining that floyd was turning his back.
the way you describe it and the way it's demonstrated in the vid seems ok, but sometimes it seems the idea is that you can't get hit in the back... so just shoulder roll a lot
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Oh, yes, I agree with you entirely on that front.
You see the same abuse of safety rules in the UFC where guys bury their head on the ground so they "can't" take a knee to the face, or put their hand on the ground so as not to get kicked. It's silly, but, like they say... hate the game not the player.
ShinkaTV 1 year ago
I could listen to this guy talk all day.
SecretTechniqueGuy 1 year ago
Movement is key. Mr. Smith said something genius, He said move the way that is better for you. Everyone has their own style, work with it.
JeffreyJamesLippold 1 year ago
That would be hard to do when some one leg kicks you off balance. Then you could throw whatever you can til they get back into position. Ver effective in boxing. How would a mayweather vs james toney(skinnier and younger one) play out? And is there any bag that i can get to practice this effectively?
snwbrderboi03 1 year ago
@snwbrderboi03 hehe, nah, GSP'd mop the floor with Floyd. But, think about a knife or a looping hook/beer bottle coming at your head, in close range. Or, think of a moment where your hands have been trapped to your chest Wing Chun style, or you've simply fallen for a fake or dropped your hands. Those are some applicable times.
ShinkaTV 1 year ago
@ShinkaTV you hella dumb homie
batmanufc18 1 year ago
@batmanufc18 hehe, I bow to your superior intellect "homie".
ShinkaTV 1 year ago
@nikkyg9021
Pretty much. Right on point with this notion and I wish more guys in MMA would practice,practice practice this until it's smoothly second nature.
KahL1One 1 year ago
guy talks like hes baked or drunk
JimmyFightinVids 1 year ago
look at those 2 mongunu....mumu.lol
BattleAxe5000 1 year ago
i like the southpaws movement
aussiespecialforces 1 year ago
during a fight i try and do this as much as possible to keep the oppenant guessing
joealtair3000 1 year ago
shoulder roll is awesome sometime i use it but its kinda of hard to hit fast and my punches gets weak
lynx0911 1 year ago
Yeah, I can see how It'd be pretty annoying to try and deck someone who's doing moving around like the guy on the left...right looks a little easier and more predictable though.
enricokorderos 1 year ago
@enricokorderos the one on the right takes more talent to pull off watch james toney or floyd mayweather fights to see it done right.
the one on the right is what allows you to counter with short punches up the middle.. once again see James Toney and Floyd Mayweather
tatertots00 1 year ago
Floyd Mayweather Jr.s BnB technique...
tripwirecreator25 1 year ago
Pretty cool video...thanks!
ayokay123 1 year ago
these 2 ant gt a clu wot thay duin
lefthookid 1 year ago
It's not nonsense. It worked for James Toney and Floyd Mayweather Jr. Both very successful defensive boxers. But nikkyg9021, keeping your hands up does work, that's why ALL professional boxers do it. Ever see Roy Jones take hits ? yeah, that guy has his hands down, except when he's getting thundered. Then they're up. That's how you defend yourself.
This works, but as with anything, you need skill to implement it, otherwise you'll get hammered.
b2z004 1 year ago
this is pure nonsense
DetroitLionsForLife 1 year ago
rofl. the guy on the left
TheAviator57 2 years ago 25
@TheAviator57 I BET HE' D KNOCK UR DUMB-ASS-OUT!
beloit22 8 months ago
2x "NBA" heavyweight champion???
implementsRunnable 2 years ago
hahaha wtf is an NBA player doing here
sinsalin 2 years ago
i bet all of yall talking down would get beat by these guys
TheBoxingj 2 years ago
Funny! very funny!!!!! Mga bugok!
instantview88 2 years ago
thats it?
you guys are retarded.
Severosrighthook 2 years ago
lol wtf? xD this is retarted
Gioooo04 2 years ago
Wow, what nonsense.
Just a bunch of guys jittering, no explanation.
Awezumi 2 years ago 2