"Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism" book trailer

[Drakedog777]

Animals that feed on grass are better to eat, Since Animals that feed on other animals must feed on meat, I don't want to eat an animal that is living in a dumpster, or just ate a dead rat, but in time of need, I will, and there is nothing wrong with that,

That is All.

[XCritonX]

I love to eat all kinds of animals, but I mostly stick to the traditional ones.

I used to eat a traditional "healthy" diet. Unfortunately I was sick and gaining weight even though I was exercising plenty. Since I cut out grains and lentils I am so much more healthy. My diet is mostly animal protein and fat. I am also healthy, lean and athletic. My health totally justifies killing an animal.

Every vegan I know is either sickly or over weight. But hey, if you don't want to eat meat, more for me!

[LegendxWind]

@XCritonX

And a rapists sexual pleasure totally justfies raping an innocent person, right? Look up Noel Polanco, Mike Tyson, Mac Danzig,Georges Laraque, Robert Cheeke, Luke Cummo, Bryan Danielson, and Carl Lewis. Those are but a few vegans who aren't "sickly or overweight" and I doubt you have even seen a vegan before. The majority of the meat eaters I know are overweight or have some sort of health problem.

[XCritonX]

@LegendxWind So you are equating rape with eating meat? You are one sick individual and disgustingly disrespectful of rape victims. You should be ashamed of yourself, you pervert.

[LegendxWind]

@XCritonX

How is that a perverted statement? Your non chalant attitude towards animal suffering is the same nonchalant attitude so readily applied by rapists and other human oppresors, I just thought I'd give you a heads up as to how ridiculous and twisted you sounded. And yes, animals are raped by artifical insemination frequently to produce a hamburger or a slice of bacon for you. You PAY for animals to be raped and slaughtered and you call ME perverted?

[XCritonX]

@LegendxWind Humans are not animals, and animals are not humans. Your inability to distinguish between the two shows a lack of basic reasoning skills. What I said may sound "ridiculous and twisted" to you because your view of animals is not healthy. To a normal person you sound "ridiculous and twisted". Unfortunately your condition makes it impossible to reason with you.

[LegendxWind]

@XCritonX

You're officially retarded. Human beings are animals, we are mammals and classified under "Hominoid" along with chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans. Your view of animals is not healthy; you can't even get off your anthropocentric pedestal and accept the fact that humans are animals and that raping other animals so that there are more for you to eat is perverse. You suffer from carnism; you are impossible to reason with because your ideologies are based on self centeredness.

[mfranck1]

@XCritonX You mustn't know very many Vegans! How can any reasonably educated person state that Vegans are "more sickly/overweight than meat-eaters?" That goes against ALL the scientific literature, of which there is a PLETHORA of. Please educate yourself. Your statement that your "health justifies killing an animal" is narcissism in its clearest and most direct form. You can healthy AND not hurt anyone else. If you like to KILL, then simply state it directly.

[XCritonX]

@mfranck1 You eat your weeds, I will eat my meat. Lets see who is more healthy. The important thing is that none of us is trying to impose our personal views on any other.

Claiming science as your refuge is a bit hollow. I have seen scientific studies that point in all, and often contradictory ways. Most studies have a strong bias, very few have sufficiently large test groups, almost all are inconclusive and suffering from unexpected errors. They are almost as reliable as statistics.

[ferretsarehardasfckk]

@XCritonX How do you figure most vegans are sickly and over weight when statistics have proven otherwise? Eating a plant based diet for a whole year can lower your cholesterol by 24%...A product only found in meat.. that means you're less likely to die of a heart attack. Vegan diets produced 30-50% less cancers. Vegans also have a 1/10 obesity rate... That's a lot less than omnivores... Eating a vegan diet has also reversed type 2 diabetes, a disease associated with a bad diet(meat)

[ferretsarehardasfckk]

@XCritonX My fathers a meat loving guy like you, he is very slim and not in bad shape... That didn't stop him from suffering a heart attack due to a clogged artery in his heart because of years of consuming high cholesterol animal products. Think about it, vegetable oil stays liquid at room temp, animal fat hardens. And that shit is hardening inside of your heart. So good luck with your heart disease because you chose to remain uneducated on your dietary choices...

[XCritonX]

@ferretsarehardasfckk So your body is at room temperature? Motor oil also stays liquid at room temperature. You apparently know nothing about healthy vs unhealthy fats. Your comment is wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start. Cholesterol is found in almost all foods including some vegetables, it is the scientific name for food fat. Total cholesterol levels are valueless measurements.

The important thing is we can each choose to eat what we want, to each his own.

[ferretsarehardasfckk]

@XCritonX Are you kidding? Yes I know there's a difference between good and bad cholesterol and there are no bad cholesterol in a plant based diet. No the important thing is that you don't force your opinion that you need to eat meat to survive on billions on sentient beings that are being brutally abused and slaughtered every year for human consumption.

[XCritonX]

@ferretsarehardasfckk The only bad cholesterol is processed plant fats like corn oil. An imbalance of omega 3, 6 and 9 is also not good. However animal fat is plenty healthy in moderation.

Since it is technically impossible to force an opinion on an animal I will ignore your last ridiculous sentence. You seem to have an abnormal need to control other humans that is not quite healthy. However, I am sure it is not possible to reason with a radical like you.

[shahafsagi]

I have translated this video into Hebrew.

I hope it's not a problem. thank you very much...

it helps my friends and family understand more about Veganism...

peace. :)

[blackwingking9]

A scientist who created a psychological idea that perfectly fits with her political agenda, and she is so unbiased right?

[Godscre100]

They collect and eat dogs in S. Korea (and probably elsewhere).

[Heliossoileh]

But I like bacon.

[ZoldierrZzz]

@Heliossoileh

But.. that doesn't justify killing an animal.. :(

A rapist could say the same thing... "I get pleasure from raping people" hence he will continue to do so.

[menchiiscute1]

The black cow looked SO sad it was devastating to watch, I am so glad I don't partake in that kind of cruelty anymore, I've been Vegetarian for 5 years thinking of going Vegan now <3 I really want to read this book and use it for my English research class

[RawFoodFreedom]

Melanie is awesome! This book is so succinct, easy to digest (like good food), and yet profound and innovative. Recommending it to lots of people.

[3finker]

This message hits home!. I unfortunately never have had a way with words "more a practical man" but this lady says almost exactly what I have been trying to tell people for years. Having started in farming from school and working with everything from shire horses to battery hens I had become numb, insensitive, perhaps even callous in my view of animals, but now I see things clearer. Im glad I found this video, and I will get the book and hopefully even write a short review of it on my website.

[blakmira]

@OurLadyOfAlienation So appreciative when another of my species "gets it." In this chemically dumbed-down world, it's not easy to swim against the current, think outside the box, and actually change your lifestyle because you actually care about the least of those among us -- the animals. We see so clearly what others are so desperate not to see.

[tooslimpat]

I really liked the video up to the cow being killed at the end. I was annoyed actually because as a vegan I wanted to post it on my Facebook page but after that decided against it. The video had done enough in a clever way to get meat eaters to think about what they are are eating and plant a seed. But that seed was then blown away by the graphic images. I would have liked to have shown it to young children to get them to think about it to. Just a thought.

[blakmira]

@tooslimpat If a child is old enough to rationalize & realize he doesn't want to eat animals because they're friends & living beings that he cares about, then he's old enough to see 1 second of a graphic image that will reinforce that decision. A curious child would wonder how the animal came to be on his plate. I do not believe in trying to shield a child from the truth. It is something he will and should remember for a lifetime. When others questions his decision, it will make him stronger.

[tooslimpat]

@blakmira Generally I wouldn't debate that it's a good idea to show people exactly how farm animals are treated but this video made the audience question their own eating habits and I think that very powerful message was lost by showing the images at the end.

People are more likely to change their behaviour because they have thought a decision through as opposed to shock value and if I and other people will not share the vid because of the images then the message is lost anyway.

[blakmira]

@tooslimpat I became a vegetarian and then a vegan because of "shock value." I saw an image that imprinted forever on my mind of a cow having her ear staple-gunned (with hormones, antibiotics & steroids). If I hadn't seen this one image, all the talking & cute acting in the world wouldn't have given me an epiphany that changed my life.

People nowadays are dead asleep in denial, their children are being drugged, and the only thing left is shock value sometimes.

[tehkylecreshow]

I LOVE MEAT SO FUCK THIS VIDEO!

[TheRiggenbach]

hindus don't eat cow. big deal. there are cultural differences all around the world. we eat what we want

[middy444]

@TheRiggenbach stop moaning.

[TheRiggenbach]

@middy444 that's not moaning. that was being non-plussed.

[CCVSquid]

excellent vid!!! I love the book!!! I learned so much!

[Apeviar]

Really, I'd eat any animal that isn't toxic or dangerous for a human to eat. As humans we must sustain ourselves the corpses of others - be they plant or animal. Food is food, and it is required for human life.

[hozhoz]

Excellent video, a little 'cheesy' acting but the message was put across very well. And the theme of it is one I've experienced many times myself.

I think it is excellent to ask people to 'think' about what they are doing by eating meat. I'm sure the philosophy of eating animals will one day become a standard within schools, colleges and universities. Great work :)

[allaboutdog01]

I think this video should be shown to everyone and the book should be a must read for children. Not only do we need to have more compassion for dogs but to all living creatures in this world.

[sylviamag]

thanks for writing this book, may people wake up and stop this horror.

[pigsrings]

I LOVE this, LOVE IT!!! Can I download it? I would love to make a copy and do a letterbox drop.

[pennyferret77]

well the problem is not killing it the sad part is how they kill it and what kind of life it had meanwhille it was alive like instead of beeing misstreated in a cage its entyre life to be able to run in grass freedom and killing it when its mature enough killing it rapidly so it doesnt suffer STOP CRUELTY

[InsideTheMirror]

It's simply because Dogs have more uses alive than dead, cows have more uses dead than alive, and I don't know about pigs. If pigs were a more common pet we would be less likely to eat them. It's a very obvious answer to a absurdly stupid question. To everyone this should seem obnoxious and insulting that someone would expect you to be dumb enough not to think of this already. Funny thing is that people do eat dog, so?

[caligirl2191]

@InsideTheMirror If the only reason people don't eat dogs is that they're more useful alive, then why does it cause so much repulsion for Americans (or any dog loving nation) to think about eating dogs? Yes, other places eat dogs, but they probably have certain other animals that are taboo to eat in their culture. The point is that we see some animals as food and some as individuals for no reason other than that we're socially taught to categorize the world in that way

[InsideTheMirror]

@caligirl2191 Just because were taught dogs are pets rather than food doesn't point out anything other than we pick and choose what we eat. But that's no different than picking a carrot over cabbage, some things taste better than others and/or are more appealing to eat. There's nothing wrong with choosing what you eat, morals are what you want them to be and if you think it's wrong than so be it. But you don't need to convert other people, it's just ignorance.

[caligirl2191]

@InsideTheMirror it is different than picking carrot over cabbage. You may prefer the taste of carrots, but youre not morally opposed to eating cabbage like an american who eats pig is morally opposed to eating dog. Most Americans dont know what dogs taste like, so its not about dogs tasting bad. The point is that theres a moral aspect to the animals we choose to eat. Ppl dont want to eat animals they know & care about, but farm animals are really no different than dogs or cats

[caligirl2191]

@InsideTheMirror and btw, not trying to convert anyone, just making a point in response to the negative things you were saying about this book/trailer

[trinitysong08]

I'm not a vegan. I'm not even a vegetarian. A friend of my mine posted this on her facebook, but I can honestly say that this made me think about things in a different way.

[stevesusenet]

Well done video, it does not look "homemade" at all. It must have taken a lot of time and resources to make. Are the actors professional actors? What is the language that the hosts accent is supposed to reflect?

[mjoybooks]

@stevesusenet Thank you for your comments. The production company is professional but the actors are not professional. The cook's accent is not supposed to reflect any region; we just wanted him to seem "not American" so the plot would be more credible.

[thebrokenladder]

@stevesusenet I guess that was supposed to be sarcasm. Anyway, I think the point matters more than the production quality.

[appIemiIkl988]

i love to dog, and cat, and people too!

[marcluc1988]

I was recommended this book by another vegan. I look forward to reading it.

[Lily8980]

This is a question I think more people around the world need to be thinking about, especially those in the field of dog and cat rescue. Some of which are already vegetarian or vegan, and many of which are just beginning to think about how animals on factory farms feel pain and suffering just as much as our beloved pets do. I requested my library order the book. I look forward to reading it.

[aussijon]

This sort of debate thrives on half truths, lack of knowledge and ignorance. Just because someone sounds plausible doesn't mean they are. We were given intelligence to use not just blindly accept other peoples ideas. You measure the truth of ideas, books, videos against scientifically known facts that can be verified.This video shows a logical development of ideas and feelings not a logical development of facts. Still its a clever piece of work.

[chrisnoaro1]

@aussijon not very persuasive, my body loves what i feed it

[aussijon]

@chrisnoaro1 Kids say that about icecream too. Is that evidence?

[aussijon]

@chrisnoaro1 You can make hundreds of observations and extraoplate from them to all sorts of meaningful ideas for you. Thats fine, I don't wish to spoil that for anyone, I just need a more rigorous assessment to be convinced. Everybody has a right to believe what ever they wish, real or fantasy. I prefer the real.

[chrisnoaro1]

@aussijon Stick to your fantasy then, I don't care, enjoy the breast/prostate or colon cancer

[aussijon]

@chrisnoaro1 Give up what? Meat, icecream or the debate?

[chrisnoaro1]

@aussijon animal flesh and secretions. drinking from the tits of a cow is unnatural. and casein causes cancer.

[aussijon]

@chrisnoaro1 What is casein ? How does it cause cancer? What references and facts have you got to back this up? I have a brain and like facts and no hearsay? Did you know plants have feelings? Science have proved they have electrical responses to the environment. So you would prefer to rip them out of the ground and distress them rather than eat meat?

[chrisnoaro1]

@aussijon look you're in denial and it's really sad. vegans aren't idiots who fret over the suffering of every single insect, or plant that may or may not feel pain (plants don't have a brain or nervous system so don't be so bloody stupid). plants aren't gonna promote heart disease in me which is why i eat them. no more replies, you're too silly

[aussijon]

@chrisnoaro1 You are free to believe what you like BUT science has proved that plants have a VERY basic nervous system, but that is an "Inconvenient Truth " for you. I am not the holder of all wisdom and neither are you. You believe what ever makes you feel good, obviously a vegan diet does nothing for your demeanor. I was simply taking part in learning dialogue, pity it was beyond you. Enjoy your veges. I will enjoy my brain food.

[stevesusenet]

@aussijon Putting an a statement in UPPERCASE doesn't make it TRUE :)

[natija08]

@aussijon

Tell me, aussijon, do you want to say that plants feel pain?

And IF they do suffer pain it would be even better to be a vegan, because animals need about 10 kg of PLANTS to build up one kg of their body.

And furthermore it is a big crime to destroy the rain forest to plant soy beans to feed the animals.

[chrisnoaro1]

@aussijon don't be so weak, just give it up, it's no good for your health or the planet

[mjoybooks]

@aussijon This is a two-minute book trailer, not a scientific treatise meant to convince people to change lifelong consumption patterns. I suggest you read the book and then revisit this conversation in a discussion forum on the issue.

[rugbymom75]

@aussijon The moral character of a nation can be judged in the way it treats its animals. Gandhi. Animals have no voice we must be that voice. They FEEL PAIN! In this day and age, is it still necessary to wear fur? Yet every day thousands of rabbits, minxes, foxes and others are skinned alive for their fur. Even dog hair is found in faux fur. There has to be a better and more humane way.

[Fendefadst]

@aussijon erm... whats about a logical development of ideas? Thats called dialectics. if you read Thomas Kuhn classic(being a scientific thinker you shurely know it) you understand how the development of logics and fact-oriented sceince co-create each other, i dont really understand the deal. When maths discover a new method and later on that is found to be a good starting point for some new model in physic, thats actually pretty similar, isnt it?

[ananya7ananya]

greattttttttttt video!!

go vegan!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DebraB927]

the group I belong to "Montclair Ethical Vegans" just had a discussion group to talk about the book and it was very thought provoking

[tejasgokhale01]

hi, This seems to be a good work. I'll get the book as and when its available in ireland and my finances permit.

I am in touch with so many pet rescue organisation all of which are meat eaters. Hope your work makes them more aware.

[mjoybooks]

@tejasgokhale01

[icetrap84]

Hello! Can you add English subtitles to your video?

Thank you

[mjoybooks]

@icetrap84 I will try to. That's an excellent suggestion. Thank you.

[ilgeneralisimo]

I have always been told we eat meat because we're omnnivores and the world's most dangerous predators....No brag just fact. Also we need protein, and there's no protein like beef. No offense to cows, seriously, but we can't get that kind of protein without making something in a lab that isn't natural. Tell me why I'm wrong.

[luvabl3angel]

@ilgeneralisimo you actually don't need animal protein to be healthy. you can get plentiful amounts of protein from plant-sources, that's just a misconception. if you want proof, just look at all the vegans out there. they're doing quite well without beef protein.

[chrisnoaro1]

@ilgeneralisimo What you've 'always been told' is incorrect. Our biology matches that of herbivores not omnivores (facial muscles, mouth opening, teeth, saliva, stomach acidity, long intestine). We probably began eating meat during scarcity of plant food at some time & continue due to habit or desire. But it's a slow-acting poison to us & doesn't constitute a natural or healthy diet for humans. How do you think cows, elephants & giraffes get so big & strong? They eat vegetable protein

[chrisnoaro1]

@ilgeneralisimo What you've 'always been told' is incorrect. Our biology matches that of herbivores not omnivores (facial muscles, mouth opening, teeth, saliva, stomach acidity, long intestine). We probably began eating meat during scarcity of plant food at some time & continue due to habit or desire. But it's a slow-acting poison to us & doesn't constitute a natural or healthy diet for humans. How do you think cows, elephants & giraffes get so big & strong? They eat vegetable protein

[aussijon]

Wow, its amazing how a little bit of knowledge can be dangerous. Reality is that we are anatomically Omnivores. How many stomachs does a cow have ? They have 5 to help digest their grass etc. How many stomachs do we have? One because we are NOT herbivores. Where do Herbivores get their protein? NOT from grasses and herbage, they get it from the bacteria that lives in their stomachs off the grass etc, multiplies in their stomachs and becomes the protein the animals builds its body out of.

[chrisnoaro1]

@aussijon These are the things we have in common with herbivores: 1) well-developed facial muscles, 2) expanded angle jaw type, 3) jaw joint location is above the plane of the molars, 4) jaw has no shearing motion but good side-to-side & front-to-back motion, 5) major jaw muscles are the masseter & pterygoids, 6) small mouth opening vs head size, 7) broad, flattened & spade shaped incisors, 8) short & blunted canine teeth, 9) molars are flattened with nodular cusps, ... continued...

[aussijon]

@chrisnoaro1 You have to offer scientific fact, not simple observations to win me across. Cows hide is like that of mantorays, does that mean they are related? The trouble with this sort of debate is that you can become so desperate to prove your point you accept even the most bizarre similarities as some kind of proof. I will stay with scientific unequivocal facts, thanks. I will leave the other sort of fictitous evidence to the desperate.

[chrisnoaro1]

@aussijon continued... 10) extensive chewing necessary, 11) saliva has carbohydrate digesting enzymes, 12) many herbivores in fact have simple rather than multiple chambers, 14) stomach acidity has pH of 4 to 5 with food in the stomach, 15) stomach capacity is less than 30% of total volume of the digestive tract, 16) small intestine is 10 to 11 times body length, 17) colon is long & sacculated, 18) liver cannot detoxify vitamin A, 19) kidney - moderately concentrated urine.

[Bolst]

@ilgeneralisimo u r wrong coz u r not a predator but a human unless u refuse to be 1, maybe u can't get that kind of protein without beef though that doesn't sound logical to me but u can have it compensated with healthy vegetarian diet, intruth beef and other meat has adverse effect on health and compared to vegetables it's harmful to human because we were herbivorous and with evolution we became somewhat omnivorous, that's the fact and now it's time to get better, get vegan!

[aussijon]

@Bolst

Its a pity you don't understand that the Theory of Evolution is a theory not fact, therefore the premise of your comment is false and your comment untrue. There are enzymes in meat and fat that are crucial to child brain development that cannot be replaced with a vegetarian diet. NOW, that is fact.

[maz7026]

Brilliant, concise,straight to the point clip, the message is clear to those capable of filtering through their reasoning capacities... but amazes me how many lack concern to actually stop to think about what they are eating.

[LieInTheMirror]

Excellent!

[ilovemusictheory]

It's a difficult task to make meat eaters think about what they so casually put in their mouths. This commercial: mission accomplished! Perhaps there will be less disregard for other animal species as humans who are not so old and set in their ways meditate upon the word "carnism". This race shows glimmers that it may eventually evolve beyond the stupid, inefficient, barbaric, and backwards practice of raising and killing animals for their meat.

[rockinfortheplanet]

Excellent educational video, thanks to neesan1 for sharing.

[neesan1]

I am definately going to get this book, is it available in UK ?

[mjoybooks]

@neesan1 Yes, it will be shortly if it isn't already. Thanks for your support!

[j1000k]

Heard Melanie Joy on Dan Rodricks today. Anti- "Carnism" as an ideology completely disregards the cold hard fact that humans are violent by nature and can not individually or as a society act in a completely non-violent way. Our biology dictates our action, we are human animals. I'm not an animal lover or a pet owner, and I have no qualms about consuming any kind of animal. We have no greater emotional connection to the animal world or any world, we are solitary beings driven by our biology.

[headlessrd]

However we are also capable of reason.

Using reason we can control these "violent instincts" which you seem to think are inherent. We see this every day, with those who are violent in our society being the severe minority.

We can, using reason, determine what is right and wrong, and act accordingly. I'm a vegetarian for many ethical reasons.

[TheSeriousTruth]

Excellent and thought provoking (unless viewer has no education or compassion)

[InstructorPedro]

Buenisimo.

Muchos éxitos para el libro.

Esperamos traducción al español!

[suckmypokecock]

Yeah then there are these soppy bollocks complaining about the whales whilst munching on a bit of crispy pig

[Mirzahtoledo]

Great!!!!! I really like this video and wanna read the book and pass on to other persons read! (sorry my bad english!)

I totally agree with her and hope that each time more people understand and stop the cruelty....

[middy444]

@Mirzahtoledo I accidentally thumbed you down :( sorry

[suluksummuskulus]

this are ridiculous questions, cause it can be simply answered and also there are other, more important questions when you think about human behavior. For example: Why does someone wants to make cheap money? I think, this is all about making money and not givin a worthfull message or idea to me. In fact, this vid also says, its ok to eat dogs or cats, like it is quite normal in some asian regions.

[tjbrownj]

I always wanted to try dog as an omni, but I've been vegan for quite a while now so I suppose that's no longer an option.

[beaelliott]

Although I'm already vegan... Would love to pass this book on to some friends who haven't made the connection yet! Thanks for writing about this important subject! :)

[franklanguage]

The question is whether it will change the way people think about meat in general; some might still want to go out and buy a golden retriever roast to cook for dinner.

[animalliberation0961]

Dumbasses... I hate people.

[surikanta]

"I hate people."

... that's a typical comment from a corporate shill looking to promote a distorted image of activists.

[rwessbecher]

This approach to the issue could well break through the cultural biases. "Carnism" is a cultural behavior and can be replaced by better ethical,, better ideological, norms, - And it's an easily understood argument ! Bravo !

[CDLver]

Next on my 'books to read' list...

[TerrestrialBiped]

I'm reading Eating Animals right now. I'll read this book next. The way we treat farm animals is a very inconvenient truth, but being awake to the truth is better than living and eating in ignorance.

[askalice50]

When I was a girl, graffiti on the wall in a washroom in my high school said it all: "Why do we call some animals pets and other animals dinner?" Thank you for expanding on those words that have stuck with me all my life.

[NYVegan]

Absolutely brilliant! I think many will find this two minute video more convincing than a bookcase full of deep philosophical texts on human-animal relationships, merely by pointing out inconsistencies in our behavior. The book just moved to the top of my reading list.

[dripsandcastle]

I look forward to reading this important book!

[timgorski]

After recently finishing Joy's latest book I can only say that it is long overdue; finally a comprehensive psychological study of human behavior regarding what we put on our plates. It thoroughly explores what Joy calls "the three N's" dictating social norms and behavior: what we consider "normal, natural, and necessary" to consume. The book encourages readers to question their own authority. I recommend this book to any psychology, ethics, or social student or scholar.

[bummercucumber]

I must read this book!

[eatingconsciously]

I read this book and it's great! It clearly explains why it is that we love some animals and eat others. It causes us to questions why we just accept things as the way they are instead of applying simple logic.