I am focusing on the NIST report graph showing velocity vs. time. My reason for this is that, as was discussed in this debate, we are subject to illusion. Science exists to overcome our illusions. Physics is the most successful science by this definition. This graph shows reliable data that is grossly misinterpreted by Chris Mohr. As a long time practicing engineer, graduated from U of Colo, it is obvious to me that Mohr's ignorance of the most basic physics is appalling. No offense.
@LOLCATS3111 Unfortunately I dont believe the FBI is in any which way or form "independant". That is the whole point surely? The 9/11 commission was set up to be "independant", for the people. However 6 of its members claim that it wasnt an investigation at all. They were directed, fed false information and the candidates were had picked by bush himself. He had the nerve to select Henry Kissinger until it was disputed. This is not independant my friend.
In response to this video. Mohr consistantly repeats "NIST told me this" and "I spoke to NIST on the phone about this". Give us names Chris. Whenever there has been any attempt to follow up previous claims, NIST says they will not confirm the statements or they do not know who in their organisation made the statement. Very easy to say at first hand in debates like this im sure everyone would agree.
@LOLCATS3111 very interesting gravitational collapse that produces a 600 ft in diameter, pulverised dust debree pile, very interesting indeed. We need to re-write our human laws of Physics due to 9/11 it seems.
@dankenyan You mean I'm still educating the retarded truthers out there. Yes I am. Unfortunately most are too retarded or hate the USA or Bush so much they are beyond caring about facts.
@terrymanning1 Terry, come on my friend, leave the educating to the professionals. You are not a professional just because you abuse people on youtube video's. You are not doing Mohr or any of the other official story promoters any justice by your immature comments. However, I do like your passion whether I agree with what you say or not. Do you still hold your position on NOT having another investigation despite the commission's leaders admitting their's was basically useless??
@dankenyan When any truther can prove any one of their hare brained and often conflicting theories I will listen. Until then I will continue to help stop spread the lies people like Richard Gage promote. The man has an agenda. He is a passionate anti-war protester who wants to see Bush in the dock and he and others like him will lie and lie over and over again until they get their way or no-one, not even the retards, are listening anymore.
@terrymanning1 "Bush in the dock" is your favourite saying. Its the 4/5th time you have said it to me. Unfortunately, I dont care about Bush. Never have and never will. Type in 'Erik Lawyer' and watch his press conference statement. Its roughly 8 minutes long. They are my questions to you. Please answer them.
@dankenyan You may not care about Bush but Gage and the rest do. Erik Lawyer the fire fighter guy. Well he's got the same agenda. The questions posed by truthers have all been answered thoroughly in the 9/11CR and the NIST reports. I stand by the answers from NIST professionals as 99% of their peers agree with their conclusions.
@terrymanning1 Sorry, saying you stand by NIST is not answering my questions as NIST themselves do not answer the questions presented by Mr. Lawyer in this press conference. I chose this particular video because it is short so you can answer them. We can debate over on that video if you'd prefer. We're talking about crime scene investigation national standards. If you do not answer them, I'll take it as you simply cannot.
@dankenyan and sorry I had to have a little chuckle at your premise that 9/11 Commission Report answered the questions thoroughly when the Commissioners themselves claimed their own investigation to be largely inaccurate. You seem to know better than they do?
@dankenyan ~ REALLY !?!??!!? "What we could not have anticipated were the remarkable people and circumstances that would coalesce within and around the 9/11 Commission over the coming twenty months to enable our success" - Thomas Kean
@LOLCATS3111 Sorry my first language is Swedish. I often get those spellings wrong. That quote was lifted immediately after the release of the report. After months of scrutiny......Thomas Kean, the head of the 9/11 Commission, concurred: "We to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth."
Kean and Hamilton charge that the 9/11 Commission was "set up to fail,"
Not good to hear being the only "independant" investigation into the death of 3,000 ppl+.
@dankenyan ~ Debris should be spelled debree. I'm sure NORAD was not completely honest with the Commission because they were trying to cover their asses since they failed to catch any of the 4 hijacked planes. Keane did indeed say the commission was set up to fail, but "they succeeded" , the investigation into the 9/11 attacks was the PENTTBOM Investigation by the FBI, it was the largest criminal investigation in history and everything they turned up pointed to al-Qaeda and the 19 hijackers
As recent as 1st March 2012, an independent analysis of Jones/Harret et al. Red/Gray Chips 'thermitic material' has been completed. Results to be printed in a peer viewed journal.
You can follow the discussion here - forums . randi . org/showthread . php?t=231314 (remove the spaces from around the . )
In summery; "there is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips" and are therefore not thermite or nano-thermite.
@MegaYeshua33 Conclusion was that it was neither Tnemec or Laclede Primer Paint, however it was beyond any reasonable doubt a kind of paint yet to be specifically identified. Not surprising, there were many different paints used to prime the steel in the WTC complex.
What we do know however is that it is definitely NOT thermite or nano-thermite.
@cjnewson88 Do they have a list of all MSDS, Of all WTC original paints anywhere? Or, and how the long term curing of the paint may change the chemical signatures? The Trade centers were a big job. They may have there on unique batch of paint. If they had it specifically made to deal with conditions of Manhattan at the time of construction. To help progress job.
@cjnewson88 BTW I also copied the linked comment you posted taking people to the forum. And am now posting it on AE911truth videos. hope you don't mind. Can't help it, it's to funny. To bad David Chandler is a grinch and blocked comments.
@MegaYeshua33 hahaha go for it, the more people know the better.
There are a few theories being tossed around along those lines, no doubt they will soon appear in the thread once Millette's preliminary report is released today.
@cjnewson88 Hey if a moderator asks you on that JREF forum if you recommended someone named xEllessdee25x thats me. I just registered, but its not letting me post yet :(
@MegaYeshua33 Welcome to JREF :) you should be able to post on any forum, however the one link re. wtc dust is a moderated thread, and all comments (at this stage) as being checked before posting. You should be able to post on the others if you wish. I'll keep an eye out for ya.
Chris is quite correct, Richard is not taking gravity into account, at all. He seems to have no understanding of it.
He talk about silent incendiaries but yet mentions cutter charger squibs and horizontal ejections of steel beams.. was it silent incendiaries or massive explosives Gage? Jesus Christ at least get your own story straight.
@cjnewson88 It was both. Each in it's own parallel universe used to demolish the buildings in tandem. Its a very high tech cutting edge brand new form of controlled demolishing called "bi-polar parallel paradoxical nanny nanny boo boo I'm never wrong controlled demolishing". Come on you stupid sheep wake up. >:(
911undebunked.. we don't care for your edited rhetoric.. this debate is sufficient to anyone watching. If they wish to know more on either topic, they can look for themselves.
Character assasination is all you folks can do, huh?
10 years and not one paper in ANY reputated engineering magazine explaining the mysterious "controlled demolition" in sight. I guess Gage and his fellow loons on ae911truth are too busy producing youtube videos and selling DVD's and books to gullible "truthseekers".
(Yes, I am aware of the irony that I just committed character assasination.)
A independent journalist, and a architect. Debating how a building collapsed. For two and a half hours. I don't even have to watch to dislike this. Neither one of them have a background,to debate this. Thats more of a structural engineer, and physicist debate.
@bjovi12 unfortunately the "truth" movement have been suckered into the CD of the towers meme instead of concentrating on stopping the BS wars en masse with everyone else.
I agree with WhyAskQuestions, he/she put it how it is,sorry.
AE911Truth is pretty ridiculous. On this subject an architect should have been able to rip an English major a new anal cavity without even trying. But it is like they are more interested in tip toeing around each other's egos.
Why hasn't AR911Truth made a big deal about how steel must be distributed in a skyscraper just so it can hold itself up?
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@ctcole77 Typical kook you are. Why don't you go park your car on a busy motorway, in the fast lane, in heavy fog for a nap and do natural selection a favour by removing yourself from the gene pool.
10 yrs. of worthless debates with Truthers have reduced to them babbling about:
"It was explosives, but it was thermite. No wait, it was thermate. No wait, it sprayed on nano-thermite."
"Flight 77 never hit the Pentagon. No wait, it flew over the Pentagon. No wait, it flew over the Pentagon & fired a missile. No wait, it was a missile."
"Flight 93 didn't crash. No wait, it landed in Ohio. No wait, it was shot down. No wait, there was a hole in 1994."
@WhyAskQuestions, ACTUALLY 10 YEARS LATER AND THERE ARE A FEW THOUSAND EXPERT ENGINEERS, PHYSICISTS ,ARCHITECTS ,SCIENTISTS ,STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS, DEMO EXPERTS ECT.. WITH DEGREES WHO PROVE DEMOLITION WITH SCIENCE EVIDENCE AND LAWS OF PHYSICS, FACT!! ALSO EXPERT PILOTS PROVE FLIGHT DATA FALSE. *PILOTS911TRUTH* *FIREMEN911TRUTH* *MILLITARY911TRUTH* AE911TRUTH*. TRUTHERS ARE EXPERTS NOT MOMS BASEMENT D FLUNKERS LIKE YOURSELF.
Keep on bitching like an idiot. I'm not the one who's claiming to have evidence that 9/11 was an "Inside Job". That's YOUR burden of proof, not mine you nutsack.
Experts know it was a demolition , Evidence proves it and the nist theory false. They dont know everything that was used but it was NOT a gravitational collapse. We know fire cant and never has collapsed a steel frame high rise EVER With 500% Worse & Longer fires, FACT!! We know wtc1/2 Both built to take TWO Jumbo jet hits, FACT !! We know mr, Mohr Is no expert and dont even 8th grade physics. We know people who troll just to insult others are uneducated tube trolls.
I go to these videos to tell people about thousands of experts who prove demolitions in all 3 with science evidence and laws of physics. I state a way to get to the experts and listen. I do not go on with my opinion like u uneducated tube trolls. Many dont know of *ae911* & when they find out they wake up, now u on the other hand come here and just insult. U cant speak any science or opinion your no expert. My purpose is awareness yours is trolling. Im done , your ignored 100% troll
@WhyAskQuestions "Just as I thought, you Truthers ARE the weakest human species on the planet."
The weakest human species...thanks for demonstrating your complete lack of intelligence.
Funny how big of an ass-hat you make yourself look like everytime you attempt to insult others. Face it, 9/11 was a false flag attack. Now go outside and get some fresh air you incredibly incompetent shill.
@WhyAskQuestions What did I tell you about being stupid and repetitive? Stop trying to act intelligent. It just makes you look what you already are,"dumb."
Charles Wolf, a 9/11 Family Member said this about conspiratists:
"I personally do not believe in any of these conspiracy theories. I think we are well past that stage. We don't need to be cluttering up people's time with bullshit." -
Its funny the government fascist guy does not bother to explain why top half of both towers turned to dust before hitting the tower's lower half and when they both agree that the top half of both towers turned to dust that mass of dust cannot push air or harm the lower halves of the buildings. A mass of dust is not the same as a mass of rock or paper. Both don't use all the evidence. People are still missing and both thermate and fire can't make people vanish without a trace.
Intro is all 100% fraud common stuff and said over over by the government supporting fascist. Where are the 1,100 people? Where did so many have even one single DNA sample disappear to. Where did all the office contents go? Why did the top half or each tower disappear? Why is super-thermate seen burning on WTC 7? Why are some people turned to dust in WTC lobby?
You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Whyaskquestions? And that accent you've tried so desperately to shed: pure West Virginia.
What is your father, dear? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you... all those tedious sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars... while you could only dream of getting out... getting anywhere... getting all the way to the FBI.
It's ok Jmarrero, I understand what you're going through. You come to YouTube on a daily basis because you feel left out in the world, you think people are always on your back or that the big bad government is watching your every move. I know why you come here, so you can get away from reality. You feel "superior" and "intelligent" when you're online, you think you're "king of the world". Until someone comes along and crushes all you hopes and dreams of a conspiracy which doesn't exist.
Poor, poor Jmarrero. Still giving me a whole lot of excuses and rants and can't even show me a declassified government document showing the signatures of the heads of state that planned 9/11.
As all of you can see below he makes a sad case for his cause.
If you can't find a declassified government document with the signatures of the heads of state on it by Saturday I call you out on your lies. You think you can prove that 9/11 was an "Inside Job" but yet you fail to make the slightest effort to produce a single piece of physical evidence that it was. You can sit there & gripe all you want, doesn't make a difference that you'd sit there lie about everything & make up all these excuses why you can't show me your evidence. Times tickin
@WhyAskQuestions What? A declassified gov document? What the hell are you talking about? Dude you are such a phony. You haven't proven one thing. Your bullshit gov. story hasn't proven one thing. You are so pathetic. I just gave you a list of reasons why the official story is a pile of dogshit. If you want to keep believing that a 47 story building can collapse at free-fall speed, from a few small office fires and then produce molten steel, go ahead. I don't care.
@WhyAskQuestions You say not to give you anything from a youtube video or AE911, molten steel was documented and thermal photographs were taken long before AE911 was ever created. This is well documented and proven. You don't even know how to debate. It doesn't matter who is providing evidence, what matters is if the evidence is true or not. You have no explanation for our factual evidence and therefor you have no argument. It doesn't matter where the evidence comes from as long as its true
@WhyAskQuestions AE911 didn't just make up the fact that building 7 fell in 8 seconds. It's just a fact and it doesn't matter who repeats it or who denies it. It's a fact. Get over it. You have no explanation for it and so you keep saying I have no proof. I don't need to prove who was responsible for 911...YOU do. I only have to prove that your story is false...I did that already. Many people have done this already. You have no argument. You have no evidence. You have no proof. You are a waste.
@WhyAskQuestions I gave a list of reasons why your story is questionable at best. I gave a list of known facts that prove your story is incomplete and most likely a cover up or an inside job. You cannot counter anything I said, so you don't even try. You just claim that I have no proof. You are a phony and a waste of time. If you actually wanted to debate, that would be fine, but you don't. You just want to waste people's time and make yourself look like an idiot. That's fine too. Cause you are.
So, Jmarrero, did you get that declassified government document like I asked or are you still sitting at your computer getting all heated up and acting like a douche?
I think you're just sitting there coming up with new ways to come up with excuses why you can't show me your evidence. You might think it's my burden of proof to disprove you, but how can I when you can't even give me 1 single piece of evidence so I can disprove you? Think about it chump!
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
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@WhyAskQuestions I don't believe these people because of their credentials. I AGREE with them, because they are right. I looked at the evidence long before AE911 even existed and I studied it before I ever heard of Steven Jones or Richard Gage. I'm just thankful they are speaking about it too. YOU however seem to "believe" people who are supposed "experts" based on nothing. You are a fool and a phony. Now, go enjoy your pathetic existence. Take care then, bye bye now.
It's good to question about your government, but it's worse when you're a complete asshole blaming them without any kind of evidence to prove what they did was criminal. I have a right to protect the U.S. from enemies, both foreign and domestic and that includes you asshole.
You don't care what the govenrment does just as long as they keep those terrorists off your shores.
I am asking you as an apologist for the US govenment, as someone who appears to only comment on 9-11 matters about 9-11 and the very basic notion that no one has yet to show evidence that the big bad boogey man is respnsible, surely a crucial notion to someone such as yourself?
You can "screw them" if you like, I'm not pressed for a screw.
"Firefighters being told to evacuate the area around building seven because they were told it was going to collapse, when there is no way ANYONE could have known or even guessed it would collapse."
When I did jury duty, we had to decide whether guilty or not guilty, when we decided not guilty, I don't remember the judge asking us "well I'm not accepting that until you tell me who did it and show me the proof".
Any jury in any court room is shown evidence then they go into deliberation and come out with a verdict. Without evidence of an "Inside Job" Truthers have nothing.
@WhyAskQuestions Then when some evidence that Tim Osman-bin-Laden is guilty is provided, then your calls for reciprocal evidence might have some traction, until then, they appear to be obfuscations. It is not for the jury to provide evidence it is for the prosecutors to do so, the jury has yet to hear any evidence.
Right, and if the Truthers want the jurors to come to a verdict and prove that 9/11 was an "Inside Job", they need to show the jury the evidence they allegedly have.
"Where is the evidence against Tim bin Laden to support the prosecution's side?"
Why don't you forward that to the U.S. Navy Seals that question since they're the ones that got the evidence? Do you seriously think I have that evidence when I'm clearly not a Nazy Seal?!
@WhyAskQuestions The navy seals are not the ones claiming that he did it. They are soldiers doing what they are told. How about the Department of Justice or the CIA, what have they said about evidence against Tim Laden?
MSNBC stated "The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks reported Wednesday that Osama bin Laden met with a top Iraqi official in 1994 but found “no credible evidence” of a link between Iraq and al-Qaida in attacks against the United States."
I don't care what the Government does just as long as they keep those terrorists off our shores. I'm an American citizen, I fight for the U.S. Constitution and the freedom of all Americans. But I'll be damned if I'm going to let a few screwed up people named "Truthers" fuck up everything in this country.
@WhyAskQuestions You are defending the US government's position - you are an apologist for them.
If MSNBC only said that to get ratings, are they lying about what the commission reported or was the commission lying?
The 'truthers' would also state that they are fighting for the "U.S. Constitution" as they have suspicions that the enemy may be domestic as well as/rather than foreign.
A man was killed without being indicted, without any trial, and you're apparently ok with that. I'm not.
Are you illiterate? Did I just say that I don't care what the Government does? Yup, I did!
Ask the Commission, not me.
Don't give a shit about Truthers rights when they attack the U.S. Constitution.
You gave no source of this man that got killed.
Seriously dude, why are you wasting your time when you could be doing something constructive? I've heard all the bullshit fairy stories from Truthers, I really don't give a shit at this point.
@WhyAskQuestions <<<You are 911 Chewy Defense, that's right. YOU are 911 Chewy Defense from the david icke forum and many others. You've been EXPOSED asshole, even down to your IP address. You were caught red handed trying to gain access to some-ones account on david icke forum, that's how low you can go. You are a sociopath if not even a psychopath. Eat payback pie!
Is that the best you can do is call people names & such? Is that why you haven't provided me with one single solitary credible piece of evidence that 9/11 was an "Inside Job" because you want to act infatile & throw a temper tantrum when people like me tell you that you're wrong??
That's right Jmarrero2525, you have nothing because you said: and "I don't have to prove anything."
All of your posts do show how uneducated you are, how unintelligent you are, how childish you can be and how violent you can get.
You are nothing but a waste of space on the internet. It's because of people like you that people like me don't take you seriously because you are a failure. You can't accomplish anything nor will you ever accomplish anything.
"Architects and Engineers are trained to design buildings that function well and withstand potentially destructive forces. However, the 3 high-rise buildings at the World Trade Center which ‘collapsed’ on 9/11 (the Twin Towers plus WTC Building #7) presented us with a body of evidence (i.e.controlled demolition) that was clearly outside the scope of our training and experience."
He admits that he has no training or experience with controlled demolition.
"Architects and Engineers are trained to design buildings that function well and withstand potentially destructive forces. However, the 3 high-rise buildings at the World Trade Center which ‘collapsed’ on 9/11 (the Twin Towers plus WTC Building #7) presented us with a body of evidence (i.e.controlled demolition) that was clearly outside the scope of our training and experience."
He admits that he has no training or experience with controlled demolition. So he lies
If Truthers want to get technical about underground fires lasting as long as they do they can look up about Centralia, PA on Google.
Any Truther suggesting that the fires in the debris got as hot as those fires in the Centralia Coal Mine fire then they're sadly mistaken because the temperatures never got hot to melt the steel nor did they last as long as the mine fire. Again, they have no shred of evidence to prove their theories or claims.
this is fuckin" awsome! A real debate! this need to be debated in a more public form. This is the most important issue (arguably) in history! There is no doubt that the truthers use science and the official side seems to me keep twisting the facts constantly. This seems to be the case because of the short, directly and fairly articulate answers by Richard! Chris seems to ramble than Richard. But the debate is real for a change.
Funny how the uploader, who unfairly tries to influence this debate, can only sporadically provide links to his cute little truther sites (that are somehow supposed to be an unbiased source of information), while 90% or even more of the time Mohr talks there is no link popping up on the screen. Interesting isn't it?
A 1360 foot building coming down in less than 18 seconds is all of the EVIDENCE necessary. Why haven't physicists been demanding data on the tons of steel and tons of concrete on every level?
Is the conservation of momentum too complicated for them.
The 9/11 Decade is a travesty of science that the physics profession will NEVER live down.
Despite what every Truther says on this comment board for this video, they can't debunk Mr. Mohr because they lack 1 thing in the entire debate: Evidence.
And whatever you do Truthers, don't say you have evidence because I know you really don't. Please stop using everything else as an excuse about why you have no evidence.
@WhyAskQuestions Are you fucking delusional?!? All Richard Gage has is evidence. Un-ignited thermite is not evidence? Molten steel under building 7 is not evidence? Why don't we get some fucking evidence from the govt? Why don't they show us the videos of the plane hitting the pentagon they confiscated? You're telling me that video footage of building 7 falling at free-fall is not evidence of controlled demolition? Small office fires do NOT demolish 47 story buildings in eight seconds.
@Jmarrero2525 it is not really 'Gage that has it" -[all this evidence] but the events themselves which conclusively reveal the use of preplanted explosives in the Towers and wtc7
Richard Gage's salary in 2009 from Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. That's according to the 2009 Form 990-EZ available right now at GuidestarDOTorg, an online organization that helps track non-profits.
The total revenue for 2009 -- 344,570. Salaries for Gage and others topped out at 107,417. That means salaries constitute 31% of AE911Truth's expenses.
In other words, Richard Gage's salary is 21% of all revenue received by AE911Truth in 2009.
@WhyAskQuestions No, he has not made one single accusation, he is only reviewing evidence. You are obviously not paying attention or you're retarded. My guess is you are retarded.
@WhyAskQuestions Right, and the govt proved it all. Cause you figured it all out by yourself...you sound like a certified state cheerleader. And you haven't said anything of importance...By the way it's not his job to prove anything, it's only his job to provide evidence that the story we were given may be false and raise questions to bring about a REAL investigation so that we CAN prove what happened and not just be a bunch of government ass kissing, mindless, brainless, thoughtless followers
I laugh at your intellect or lack thereof. If you really wanted to prove me wrong then provide me evidence for every little fucked up claim/theory you have. If you don't have evidence & are here for shits & giggles, you might as well say that you've fucked yourself in the process because frankly, that's what you just did.
@WhyAskQuestions Why don't you provide evidence? We went to wars based on your bullshit story. You sound like a complete idiot. I haven't heard you say one thing that means anything. Fucking dumbass. Why don't YOU prove how building 7 came down? Prove how un-ignited thermite ended up in the dust samples. YOU PROVE IT. Otherwise don't waste my time loser.
@WhyAskQuestions You sound like you've been smoking meth. You don't make any coherent sense. The "experts" explanation is a pile of dogshit. You want proof of thermite? There is un-ignited thermite in the dust. You ass.
Respond to this video... You talk about a lack of intellect, meanwhile you haven't said one intelligent thing regarding your understanding of 9-11. Nothing. You are a phony and a chump. I love how you stupid you make yourself look by trying to say I look stupid. Idiot.
Go fuck yourself you idiotic fool. You've done alot of making yourself out to be a psychotic fuck and all I needed to do was push you over the edge. You people are fucking easy to piss off and I find that hilarious.
Come on you pansy, make me laugh by calling me every name in the Truther handbook. It's people like you that are the reason why there aren't 2 species of humans because if being a Truther is a species, you'd be extinct.
I suggest you watch the movie: "Idiocracy", because in your little sad world you're nothing but a lazy stupid redneck.
Ya, I know people like you who don't have any evidence to prove their retarded theories is pathetic. Thanks for telling me you are pathetic. That's a load off my chest! LMAOAY = Laughing My Ass Off At You
@WhyAskQuestions That's the exact reason why I called you pathetic. I hope you got a good phony laugh you pathetic fake. It's people like you who cannot argue or debate that make your bullshit story seem even more ridiculous. You are a homo... =D
You called me "pathetic" but yet you can't debunk me because you lack 2 things: Intelligence and evidence?
How can the Official Story be bullshit when they have photographic and video evidence, DNA results and eyewitness accounts that shows everyone that 19 hijackers did what they were trained to do and you have nothing to counter with?
Is that all you Truthers can do is call people names because you
I am focusing on the NIST report graph showing velocity vs. time. My reason for this is that, as was discussed in this debate, we are subject to illusion. Science exists to overcome our illusions. Physics is the most successful science by this definition. This graph shows reliable data that is grossly misinterpreted by Chris Mohr. As a long time practicing engineer, graduated from U of Colo, it is obvious to me that Mohr's ignorance of the most basic physics is appalling. No offense.
qwerty90615 6 hours ago
@LOLCATS3111 Unfortunately I dont believe the FBI is in any which way or form "independant". That is the whole point surely? The 9/11 commission was set up to be "independant", for the people. However 6 of its members claim that it wasnt an investigation at all. They were directed, fed false information and the candidates were had picked by bush himself. He had the nerve to select Henry Kissinger until it was disputed. This is not independant my friend.
dankenyan 1 day ago
In response to this video. Mohr consistantly repeats "NIST told me this" and "I spoke to NIST on the phone about this". Give us names Chris. Whenever there has been any attempt to follow up previous claims, NIST says they will not confirm the statements or they do not know who in their organisation made the statement. Very easy to say at first hand in debates like this im sure everyone would agree.
dankenyan 3 days ago
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dankenyan 3 days ago
did this Gage really say "we've already ruled out a gravitational collapse" !?!?!?!?!??!
LOLCATS3111 4 days ago
@LOLCATS3111 very interesting gravitational collapse that produces a 600 ft in diameter, pulverised dust debree pile, very interesting indeed. We need to re-write our human laws of Physics due to 9/11 it seems.
dankenyan 3 days ago
@dankenyan ~ there was more then enough energy available to achieve everything we saw in the collapse ..... FYI , it's DEBRIS not DEBREE
LOLCATS3111 3 days ago
@LOLCATS3111 yes lots and lots of LATERAL energy????
dankenyan 3 days ago
Truthers are retarded
terrymanning1 5 days ago
@terrymanning1 hi terry, still at it I see.
dankenyan 3 days ago
@dankenyan You mean I'm still educating the retarded truthers out there. Yes I am. Unfortunately most are too retarded or hate the USA or Bush so much they are beyond caring about facts.
terrymanning1 3 days ago
@terrymanning1 Terry, come on my friend, leave the educating to the professionals. You are not a professional just because you abuse people on youtube video's. You are not doing Mohr or any of the other official story promoters any justice by your immature comments. However, I do like your passion whether I agree with what you say or not. Do you still hold your position on NOT having another investigation despite the commission's leaders admitting their's was basically useless??
dankenyan 3 days ago
@dankenyan When any truther can prove any one of their hare brained and often conflicting theories I will listen. Until then I will continue to help stop spread the lies people like Richard Gage promote. The man has an agenda. He is a passionate anti-war protester who wants to see Bush in the dock and he and others like him will lie and lie over and over again until they get their way or no-one, not even the retards, are listening anymore.
Thankfully that day is not far off.
terrymanning1 3 days ago
@terrymanning1 "Bush in the dock" is your favourite saying. Its the 4/5th time you have said it to me. Unfortunately, I dont care about Bush. Never have and never will. Type in 'Erik Lawyer' and watch his press conference statement. Its roughly 8 minutes long. They are my questions to you. Please answer them.
dankenyan 3 days ago
@dankenyan You may not care about Bush but Gage and the rest do. Erik Lawyer the fire fighter guy. Well he's got the same agenda. The questions posed by truthers have all been answered thoroughly in the 9/11CR and the NIST reports. I stand by the answers from NIST professionals as 99% of their peers agree with their conclusions.
terrymanning1 3 days ago
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@terrymanning1 Sorry, saying you stand by NIST is not answering my questions as NIST themselves do not answer the questions presented by Mr. Lawyer in this press conference. I chose this particular video because it is short so you can answer them. We can debate over on that video if you'd prefer. We're talking about crime scene investigation national standards. If you do not answer them, I'll take it as you simply cannot.
dankenyan 3 days ago
@dankenyan and sorry I had to have a little chuckle at your premise that 9/11 Commission Report answered the questions thoroughly when the Commissioners themselves claimed their own investigation to be largely inaccurate. You seem to know better than they do?
dankenyan 3 days ago
@dankenyan ~ REALLY !?!??!!? "What we could not have anticipated were the remarkable people and circumstances that would coalesce within and around the 9/11 Commission over the coming twenty months to enable our success" - Thomas Kean
LOLCATS3111 3 days ago
@LOLCATS3111 Sorry my first language is Swedish. I often get those spellings wrong. That quote was lifted immediately after the release of the report. After months of scrutiny......Thomas Kean, the head of the 9/11 Commission, concurred: "We to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth."
Kean and Hamilton charge that the 9/11 Commission was "set up to fail,"
Not good to hear being the only "independant" investigation into the death of 3,000 ppl+.
dankenyan 3 days ago
@dankenyan ~ Debris should be spelled debree. I'm sure NORAD was not completely honest with the Commission because they were trying to cover their asses since they failed to catch any of the 4 hijacked planes. Keane did indeed say the commission was set up to fail, but "they succeeded" , the investigation into the 9/11 attacks was the PENTTBOM Investigation by the FBI, it was the largest criminal investigation in history and everything they turned up pointed to al-Qaeda and the 19 hijackers
LOLCATS3111 1 day ago
Just a quick note for all.
As recent as 1st March 2012, an independent analysis of Jones/Harret et al. Red/Gray Chips 'thermitic material' has been completed. Results to be printed in a peer viewed journal.
You can follow the discussion here - forums . randi . org/showthread . php?t=231314 (remove the spaces from around the . )
In summery; "there is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips" and are therefore not thermite or nano-thermite.
cjnewson88 1 week ago
@cjnewson88 Are they primer paint?
MegaYeshua33 1 week ago
@MegaYeshua33 Conclusion was that it was neither Tnemec or Laclede Primer Paint, however it was beyond any reasonable doubt a kind of paint yet to be specifically identified. Not surprising, there were many different paints used to prime the steel in the WTC complex.
What we do know however is that it is definitely NOT thermite or nano-thermite.
cjnewson88 1 week ago
@cjnewson88 Do they have a list of all MSDS, Of all WTC original paints anywhere? Or, and how the long term curing of the paint may change the chemical signatures? The Trade centers were a big job. They may have there on unique batch of paint. If they had it specifically made to deal with conditions of Manhattan at the time of construction. To help progress job.
MegaYeshua33 1 week ago
@cjnewson88 BTW I also copied the linked comment you posted taking people to the forum. And am now posting it on AE911truth videos. hope you don't mind. Can't help it, it's to funny. To bad David Chandler is a grinch and blocked comments.
MegaYeshua33 1 week ago
@MegaYeshua33 hahaha go for it, the more people know the better.
There are a few theories being tossed around along those lines, no doubt they will soon appear in the thread once Millette's preliminary report is released today.
cjnewson88 1 week ago
@cjnewson88 Are you going to make a video on this?
MegaYeshua33 1 week ago
@MegaYeshua33 Probably, I'll follow the discussion at this point, see what conclusions come out of it.
cjnewson88 1 week ago
@cjnewson88 Hey if a moderator asks you on that JREF forum if you recommended someone named xEllessdee25x thats me. I just registered, but its not letting me post yet :(
MegaYeshua33 1 week ago
@MegaYeshua33 Welcome to JREF :) you should be able to post on any forum, however the one link re. wtc dust is a moderated thread, and all comments (at this stage) as being checked before posting. You should be able to post on the others if you wish. I'll keep an eye out for ya.
cjnewson88 1 week ago
33.12 hahahahahah duh duh duh Richard Cage got owned
86Blessed86 1 week ago
Richard Gage could not make himself look any bigger of a douche.
MegaYeshua33 1 week ago
Chris is quite correct, Richard is not taking gravity into account, at all. He seems to have no understanding of it.
He talk about silent incendiaries but yet mentions cutter charger squibs and horizontal ejections of steel beams.. was it silent incendiaries or massive explosives Gage? Jesus Christ at least get your own story straight.
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@cjnewson88 It was both. Each in it's own parallel universe used to demolish the buildings in tandem. Its a very high tech cutting edge brand new form of controlled demolishing called "bi-polar parallel paradoxical nanny nanny boo boo I'm never wrong controlled demolishing". Come on you stupid sheep wake up. >:(
MegaYeshua33 1 week ago 2
@MegaYeshua33 lmao spot on.
cjnewson88 1 week ago
911undebunked.. we don't care for your edited rhetoric.. this debate is sufficient to anyone watching. If they wish to know more on either topic, they can look for themselves.
cjnewson88 1 week ago
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cjnewson88 1 week ago
mohr wobbles and hesitates so much and hardly brought anything to the table.
Just air and a big waste of it.
TheMysticFiles 4 weeks ago
@TheMysticFiles
Character assasination is all you folks can do, huh?
10 years and not one paper in ANY reputated engineering magazine explaining the mysterious "controlled demolition" in sight. I guess Gage and his fellow loons on ae911truth are too busy producing youtube videos and selling DVD's and books to gullible "truthseekers".
(Yes, I am aware of the irony that I just committed character assasination.)
NotableJInx2 2 weeks ago
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@NotableJInx2 Aw... poor bebe!
Let me help you with the physics, k?
1. SUDDEN ONSET
2. SYMMETRICAL COLLAPSE
3. NEAR FREE FALL SPEED
TheMysticFiles 1 week ago
excellent Chris, well done. I think won that debate hands down.
1917geoff 1 month ago
chris mohr is a ill-informed idiot.
hashmonster2004 2 months ago
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A independent journalist, and a architect. Debating how a building collapsed. For two and a half hours. I don't even have to watch to dislike this. Neither one of them have a background,to debate this. Thats more of a structural engineer, and physicist debate.
MegaYeshua33 2 months ago
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MegaYeshua33 2 months ago
911 was a conspiracy .... literally.
hashmonster2004 2 months ago
some of you better watch your gas fires dont melt if you leave it on for 2 hours.
hashmonster2004 2 months ago
@bjovi12
"on what basis asswipe" - On the basis of the U.S. Constitution.
WhyAskQuestions 2 months ago
@bjovi12 unfortunately the "truth" movement have been suckered into the CD of the towers meme instead of concentrating on stopping the BS wars en masse with everyone else.
I agree with WhyAskQuestions, he/she put it how it is,sorry.
Humannondancer 3 months ago
david mohr' opinion is only that his opinion!
is he a architect or engineer with modern steel framed skyscrapers? .... no
does he have any relevant qualifications in regards to modern framed steel framed buildings... no
what makes david mohr a expert... nothing he has no formal re3levant qualifications.
why is david mohr held up as a expert in modern steel framed skyscrapers when he has no relelvant qualifications?
WTC 1,2, 7 all controlled demolition.
hashmonster2004 3 months ago
@hashmonster2004 Go figure that is what everyone asks about every conspiracy theorist including Richard Gage
RedneckR0nin 3 months ago
@hashmonster2004 Neither does richard gage
MegaYeshua33 2 months ago
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@hashmonster2004 Is Richard Gage a engineer or architect with qualifications to build or design high rise steel structural buildings?....NO HE ISN'T.
What makes Richard Gage a expert on this topic besides he obviously supports your pov...which is why your riding his nuts!
RedneckR0nin 1 month ago
@hashmonster2004 Science and brains is a big part of the investigation and that is where "Chris Mohr" trumps Richard Cage.
86Blessed86 1 week ago
AE911Truth is pretty ridiculous. On this subject an architect should have been able to rip an English major a new anal cavity without even trying. But it is like they are more interested in tip toeing around each other's egos.
Why hasn't AR911Truth made a big deal about how steel must be distributed in a skyscraper just so it can hold itself up?
psikeyhackr 3 months ago
AE911TRUTH ORG , TYPE THAT ON GOOGLE OR ON U TUBE TYPE ' AE911 EXPERTS SPEAK OUT '' LISTEN!! EXPERTS WITH DEGREES ARE TRUTHERS, ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, PHYSICISTS ,SCIENTISTS ECT.... *FIREFIGHTERS FOR 911TRUTH* *PILOTS FOR 911 TRUTH* *MILLITARY FOR 911 TRUTH*. TYPE THEM ALSO, ITS NO ARGUMENT ANYMORE. ONLY UNEDUCATED MOMS BASEMENT D FLUNKERS WITH NO DEGREES DISAGREE NOW. I TRUST EXPERTS
Headshothorror4488 4 months ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
How many of Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth's 1600+ architectural and engineering professionals have experience in structural engineering, high rise construction, or controlled demolition?
How can Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth be considered a professional organization when over 80% of its members are students?
How much of Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth's budget constitutes Richard Gage's salary?
ctcole77 4 months ago
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@ctcole77 Typical kook you are. Why don't you go park your car on a busy motorway, in the fast lane, in heavy fog for a nap and do natural selection a favour by removing yourself from the gene pool.
Seigu007 3 months ago
10 yrs. of worthless debates with Truthers have reduced to them babbling about:
"It was explosives, but it was thermite. No wait, it was thermate. No wait, it sprayed on nano-thermite."
"Flight 77 never hit the Pentagon. No wait, it flew over the Pentagon. No wait, it flew over the Pentagon & fired a missile. No wait, it was a missile."
"Flight 93 didn't crash. No wait, it landed in Ohio. No wait, it was shot down. No wait, there was a hole in 1994."
10 yrs of Epic Fail!
WhyAskQuestions 4 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions
They're arguing that Flight 77 flew over the Pentagon based on the data of the Flight Recorder which was found IN the Pentagon! lol!
Some stuff you just can't make up.
NotableJInx2 4 months ago
@NotableJInx2
LMAO! I love how they argue amongst themselves: "It flew over. No, it was a missile. No, it was a fighter jet. ECT. ETC."
I know, they make up alot of shit and it's stacking pretty damn high.
WhyAskQuestions 4 months ago
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@WhyAskQuestions Troll, I hope you're getting paid to be such a dumbass. I mean, even hookers get paid for it, right? :-)
Seigu007 4 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions, ACTUALLY 10 YEARS LATER AND THERE ARE A FEW THOUSAND EXPERT ENGINEERS, PHYSICISTS ,ARCHITECTS ,SCIENTISTS ,STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS, DEMO EXPERTS ECT.. WITH DEGREES WHO PROVE DEMOLITION WITH SCIENCE EVIDENCE AND LAWS OF PHYSICS, FACT!! ALSO EXPERT PILOTS PROVE FLIGHT DATA FALSE. *PILOTS911TRUTH* *FIREMEN911TRUTH* *MILLITARY911TRUTH* AE911TRUTH*. TRUTHERS ARE EXPERTS NOT MOMS BASEMENT D FLUNKERS LIKE YOURSELF.
Headshothorror4488 4 months ago
@Headshothorror4488
Keep on bitching like an idiot. I'm not the one who's claiming to have evidence that 9/11 was an "Inside Job". That's YOUR burden of proof, not mine you nutsack.
WhyAskQuestions 4 months ago
Experts know it was a demolition , Evidence proves it and the nist theory false. They dont know everything that was used but it was NOT a gravitational collapse. We know fire cant and never has collapsed a steel frame high rise EVER With 500% Worse & Longer fires, FACT!! We know wtc1/2 Both built to take TWO Jumbo jet hits, FACT !! We know mr, Mohr Is no expert and dont even 8th grade physics. We know people who troll just to insult others are uneducated tube trolls.
Headshothorror4488 4 months ago
I go to these videos to tell people about thousands of experts who prove demolitions in all 3 with science evidence and laws of physics. I state a way to get to the experts and listen. I do not go on with my opinion like u uneducated tube trolls. Many dont know of *ae911* & when they find out they wake up, now u on the other hand come here and just insult. U cant speak any science or opinion your no expert. My purpose is awareness yours is trolling. Im done , your ignored 100% troll
Headshothorror4488 4 months ago
@Headshothorror4488
Just as I thought, you Truthers ARE the weakest human species on the planet.
WhyAskQuestions 4 months ago
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@WhyAskQuestions "Just as I thought, you Truthers ARE the weakest human species on the planet."
The weakest human species...thanks for demonstrating your complete lack of intelligence.
Funny how big of an ass-hat you make yourself look like everytime you attempt to insult others. Face it, 9/11 was a false flag attack. Now go outside and get some fresh air you incredibly incompetent shill.
99Eternal 4 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions You’re just another paper tiger that wouldn’t know real science from a horses ass.
Seigu007 3 months ago
@Seigu007
Atleast I'm not the one going around claiming to have evidence from hearsay arguements.
WhyAskQuestions 3 months ago
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@WhyAskQuestions What did I tell you about being stupid and repetitive? Stop trying to act intelligent. It just makes you look what you already are,"dumb."
Seigu007 3 months ago
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Charles Wolf, a 9/11 Family Member said this about conspiratists:
"I personally do not believe in any of these conspiracy theories. I think we are well past that stage. We don't need to be cluttering up people's time with bullshit." -
WhyAskQuestions 4 months ago
1:08:37 The Russians recorded global nuclear events on 9/11.
danp5648 4 months ago
Its funny the government fascist guy does not bother to explain why top half of both towers turned to dust before hitting the tower's lower half and when they both agree that the top half of both towers turned to dust that mass of dust cannot push air or harm the lower halves of the buildings. A mass of dust is not the same as a mass of rock or paper. Both don't use all the evidence. People are still missing and both thermate and fire can't make people vanish without a trace.
danp5648 4 months ago
Intro is all 100% fraud common stuff and said over over by the government supporting fascist. Where are the 1,100 people? Where did so many have even one single DNA sample disappear to. Where did all the office contents go? Why did the top half or each tower disappear? Why is super-thermate seen burning on WTC 7? Why are some people turned to dust in WTC lobby?
danp5648 4 months ago
9/11 burning super-thermate WTC 7 Smoking Gun Evidence Most Damning Evidence Yet! watch?v=wWORyzjeBn0
danp5648 4 months ago
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You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Whyaskquestions? And that accent you've tried so desperately to shed: pure West Virginia.
deniapavao 4 months ago
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deniapavao 4 months ago
What is your father, dear? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you... all those tedious sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars... while you could only dream of getting out... getting anywhere... getting all the way to the FBI.
deniapavao 4 months ago
It's ok Jmarrero, I understand what you're going through. You come to YouTube on a daily basis because you feel left out in the world, you think people are always on your back or that the big bad government is watching your every move. I know why you come here, so you can get away from reality. You feel "superior" and "intelligent" when you're online, you think you're "king of the world". Until someone comes along and crushes all you hopes and dreams of a conspiracy which doesn't exist.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
Poor, poor Jmarrero. Still giving me a whole lot of excuses and rants and can't even show me a declassified government document showing the signatures of the heads of state that planned 9/11.
As all of you can see below he makes a sad case for his cause.
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WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
Jmarrero,
If you can't find a declassified government document with the signatures of the heads of state on it by Saturday I call you out on your lies. You think you can prove that 9/11 was an "Inside Job" but yet you fail to make the slightest effort to produce a single piece of physical evidence that it was. You can sit there & gripe all you want, doesn't make a difference that you'd sit there lie about everything & make up all these excuses why you can't show me your evidence. Times tickin
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions What? A declassified gov document? What the hell are you talking about? Dude you are such a phony. You haven't proven one thing. Your bullshit gov. story hasn't proven one thing. You are so pathetic. I just gave you a list of reasons why the official story is a pile of dogshit. If you want to keep believing that a 47 story building can collapse at free-fall speed, from a few small office fires and then produce molten steel, go ahead. I don't care.
Jmarrero2525 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions You say not to give you anything from a youtube video or AE911, molten steel was documented and thermal photographs were taken long before AE911 was ever created. This is well documented and proven. You don't even know how to debate. It doesn't matter who is providing evidence, what matters is if the evidence is true or not. You have no explanation for our factual evidence and therefor you have no argument. It doesn't matter where the evidence comes from as long as its true
Jmarrero2525 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions AE911 didn't just make up the fact that building 7 fell in 8 seconds. It's just a fact and it doesn't matter who repeats it or who denies it. It's a fact. Get over it. You have no explanation for it and so you keep saying I have no proof. I don't need to prove who was responsible for 911...YOU do. I only have to prove that your story is false...I did that already. Many people have done this already. You have no argument. You have no evidence. You have no proof. You are a waste.
Jmarrero2525 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions I gave a list of reasons why your story is questionable at best. I gave a list of known facts that prove your story is incomplete and most likely a cover up or an inside job. You cannot counter anything I said, so you don't even try. You just claim that I have no proof. You are a phony and a waste of time. If you actually wanted to debate, that would be fine, but you don't. You just want to waste people's time and make yourself look like an idiot. That's fine too. Cause you are.
Jmarrero2525 5 months ago
So, Jmarrero, did you get that declassified government document like I asked or are you still sitting at your computer getting all heated up and acting like a douche?
I think you're just sitting there coming up with new ways to come up with excuses why you can't show me your evidence. You might think it's my burden of proof to disprove you, but how can I when you can't even give me 1 single piece of evidence so I can disprove you? Think about it chump!
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
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Jmarrero2525,
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
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Jmarrero2525,
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
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Jmarrero2525,
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
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Jmarrero2525,
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
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Jmarrero2525,
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
You like that bitch? Do ya?
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
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Jmarrero2525,
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES! DON'T MAKE AN EXCUSE THAT A&E FOR 9/11 TRUTH OR YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE "EVIDENCE". SHOW ME A DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT WITH THE SIGNATURES OF EVERY HEAD OF STATE PLANNING THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
I'll just keep on copying and pasting this til you do.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
Jmarrero2525,
SHOW ME EVIDENCE, NOT EXCUSES!
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
Jmarrero,
A&E for 9/11 Truth has people who work on or with: billboards, landscaping, restaurants, residential homes, restoing historic homes, health care, space migration, building codes, Environmental Planners, Electric, hospitals, office buildings, medical facilities, warehouses, schools, apartments, retail spaces, auto dealerships, 3D computer imaging, log cabin designs, National Park Service, timber, crane operators, cartoons, ect.
Why do you believe these people?
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions I don't believe these people because of their credentials. I AGREE with them, because they are right. I looked at the evidence long before AE911 even existed and I studied it before I ever heard of Steven Jones or Richard Gage. I'm just thankful they are speaking about it too. YOU however seem to "believe" people who are supposed "experts" based on nothing. You are a fool and a phony. Now, go enjoy your pathetic existence. Take care then, bye bye now.
Jmarrero2525 5 months ago
a journalist propagandist , vs . a professional engineer ... buildings dont turn to dust .
occision 5 months ago
So nice to be in the conspiracy religion.
Join the club and pray 5 x a day to the holy chemtrail .
koertje 5 months ago
Why is it OK to display supposed counters to what Chris Mohr saying when he is talking but the same is not done when Gage speaks?
bcbobbie 5 months ago
Was 9/11 an "Inside Job"? Ask a Truther for evidence, all you'll get is excuses and insults.
Read their posts' below
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WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@bjovi12
It's good to question about your government, but it's worse when you're a complete asshole blaming them without any kind of evidence to prove what they did was criminal. I have a right to protect the U.S. from enemies, both foreign and domestic and that includes you asshole.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
Chris Mohr wins this one
bcbobbie 5 months ago
You don't care what the govenrment does just as long as they keep those terrorists off your shores.
I am asking you as an apologist for the US govenment, as someone who appears to only comment on 9-11 matters about 9-11 and the very basic notion that no one has yet to show evidence that the big bad boogey man is respnsible, surely a crucial notion to someone such as yourself?
You can "screw them" if you like, I'm not pressed for a screw.
Sources for what? The Goose and Gander?
lifeformalien 5 months ago
"Firefighters being told to evacuate the area around building seven because they were told it was going to collapse, when there is no way ANYONE could have known or even guessed it would collapse."
OMG Jmarrero2525, you got something right.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
When I did jury duty, we had to decide whether guilty or not guilty, when we decided not guilty, I don't remember the judge asking us "well I'm not accepting that until you tell me who did it and show me the proof".
lifeformalien 5 months ago
@lifeformalien
Any jury in any court room is shown evidence then they go into deliberation and come out with a verdict. Without evidence of an "Inside Job" Truthers have nothing.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions Then when some evidence that Tim Osman-bin-Laden is guilty is provided, then your calls for reciprocal evidence might have some traction, until then, they appear to be obfuscations. It is not for the jury to provide evidence it is for the prosecutors to do so, the jury has yet to hear any evidence.
lifeformalien 5 months ago
@lifeformalien
Right, and if the Truthers want the jurors to come to a verdict and prove that 9/11 was an "Inside Job", they need to show the jury the evidence they allegedly have.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions Oh, I thought you were a government apologist - which would be the prosecutors.
The 'truthers' aren't the ones on trial here.
Where is the evidence against Tim bin Laden to support the prosecution's side?
lifeformalien 5 months ago
@lifeformalien
"Where is the evidence against Tim bin Laden to support the prosecution's side?"
Why don't you forward that to the U.S. Navy Seals that question since they're the ones that got the evidence? Do you seriously think I have that evidence when I'm clearly not a Nazy Seal?!
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions The navy seals are not the ones claiming that he did it. They are soldiers doing what they are told. How about the Department of Justice or the CIA, what have they said about evidence against Tim Laden?
MSNBC stated "The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks reported Wednesday that Osama bin Laden met with a top Iraqi official in 1994 but found “no credible evidence” of a link between Iraq and al-Qaida in attacks against the United States."
lifeformalien 5 months ago
@lifeformalien
Stop directing those questions at me as if I'm affiliated with any Government Agency.
I don't care what MSNBC says, that was just something for them to say to get coverage.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions Oh, I thought you were a government apologist...
lifeformalien 5 months ago
@lifeformalien
What's with the "government apologist" crap?
I don't care what the Government does just as long as they keep those terrorists off our shores. I'm an American citizen, I fight for the U.S. Constitution and the freedom of all Americans. But I'll be damned if I'm going to let a few screwed up people named "Truthers" fuck up everything in this country.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions You are defending the US government's position - you are an apologist for them.
If MSNBC only said that to get ratings, are they lying about what the commission reported or was the commission lying?
The 'truthers' would also state that they are fighting for the "U.S. Constitution" as they have suspicions that the enemy may be domestic as well as/rather than foreign.
A man was killed without being indicted, without any trial, and you're apparently ok with that. I'm not.
lifeformalien 5 months ago
@lifeformalien
Are you illiterate? Did I just say that I don't care what the Government does? Yup, I did!
Ask the Commission, not me.
Don't give a shit about Truthers rights when they attack the U.S. Constitution.
You gave no source of this man that got killed.
Seriously dude, why are you wasting your time when you could be doing something constructive? I've heard all the bullshit fairy stories from Truthers, I really don't give a shit at this point.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@lifeformalien
Are you illiterate? I said I don't care what the Government does.
Ask the commission, not me
Screw the Truthers, they spit on the U.S. Constitution.
Source please!
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
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whyohwhyfools 5 months ago
Jmarrero2525,
Is that the best you can do is call people names & such? Is that why you haven't provided me with one single solitary credible piece of evidence that 9/11 was an "Inside Job" because you want to act infatile & throw a temper tantrum when people like me tell you that you're wrong??
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
That's right Jmarrero2525, you have nothing because you said: and "I don't have to prove anything."
All of your posts do show how uneducated you are, how unintelligent you are, how childish you can be and how violent you can get.
You are nothing but a waste of space on the internet. It's because of people like you that people like me don't take you seriously because you are a failure. You can't accomplish anything nor will you ever accomplish anything.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
Debunkers are paid to come on here and Jmarrero2525 says: "I don't have to prove anything."
The commission report is a farce and Jmarrero2525 says: "I don't have to prove anything."
The official story is untrue and Jmarrero2525 says: "I don't have to prove anything."
I see a pattern where all Jmarrero2525 ever produces is nothing but to "come on here and spread bullshit".
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
chris more the whore....it fits.
sssssjjjj1 6 months ago
Respond to this video... Sue me!?!?!!! HAHAHAHA O my god! You are so gay
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@MyLibelSuit HAHAHAHAHAHA! You're a faggot too!
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@MyLibelSuit HAHAHAHAHAHA! You're a faggot too!
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
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If anyone is puzzled by Daryl Carstensen's actions, please visit "911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77" video.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@Daryl Carstensen
FUCK YOU YOU HARASSER, STALKER AND ABUSER!
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
Obviously YouTube is having problems with my posts.
But if you want to become a "AE911Truth Hero" you must pledge $10,932 a year.
Why does exposing the truth cost so damn much? Oh I know, because idiots can afford to be idiots even more.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
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Also since Richard Gage is clearly in it for the money, lets take a look at how he gets his money from dull witted Truthers on the next two posts.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
Also since Richard Gage is clearly in it for the money, lets take a look at how he gets his money from dull witted Truthers on the next two posts.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
Richard Gage also admits that he lacks "training and experience" about controlled demolition on his A&E for 9/11 Truth website.
Clearly he's just lying about controlled demolition & the Truthers are too gullible or stupid to accept those fraudulant claims.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
Richard Gage also admits:
"Architects and Engineers are trained to design buildings that function well and withstand potentially destructive forces. However, the 3 high-rise buildings at the World Trade Center which ‘collapsed’ on 9/11 (the Twin Towers plus WTC Building #7) presented us with a body of evidence (i.e.controlled demolition) that was clearly outside the scope of our training and experience."
He admits that he has no training or experience with controlled demolition.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
Richard Gage also admits:
"Architects and Engineers are trained to design buildings that function well and withstand potentially destructive forces. However, the 3 high-rise buildings at the World Trade Center which ‘collapsed’ on 9/11 (the Twin Towers plus WTC Building #7) presented us with a body of evidence (i.e.controlled demolition) that was clearly outside the scope of our training and experience."
He admits that he has no training or experience with controlled demolition. So he lies
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
If Truthers want to get technical about underground fires lasting as long as they do they can look up about Centralia, PA on Google.
Any Truther suggesting that the fires in the debris got as hot as those fires in the Centralia Coal Mine fire then they're sadly mistaken because the temperatures never got hot to melt the steel nor did they last as long as the mine fire. Again, they have no shred of evidence to prove their theories or claims.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
why are the videos not seen? was this debate not filmed? lame if so.
aaronleedescombes 6 months ago
this is fuckin" awsome! A real debate! this need to be debated in a more public form. This is the most important issue (arguably) in history! There is no doubt that the truthers use science and the official side seems to me keep twisting the facts constantly. This seems to be the case because of the short, directly and fairly articulate answers by Richard! Chris seems to ramble than Richard. But the debate is real for a change.
PATMAN0910 6 months ago
Funny how the uploader, who unfairly tries to influence this debate, can only sporadically provide links to his cute little truther sites (that are somehow supposed to be an unbiased source of information), while 90% or even more of the time Mohr talks there is no link popping up on the screen. Interesting isn't it?
monkophile 6 months ago
A 1360 foot building coming down in less than 18 seconds is all of the EVIDENCE necessary. Why haven't physicists been demanding data on the tons of steel and tons of concrete on every level?
Is the conservation of momentum too complicated for them.
The 9/11 Decade is a travesty of science that the physics profession will NEVER live down.
psikeyhackr 6 months ago
Despite what every Truther says on this comment board for this video, they can't debunk Mr. Mohr because they lack 1 thing in the entire debate: Evidence.
And whatever you do Truthers, don't say you have evidence because I know you really don't. Please stop using everything else as an excuse about why you have no evidence.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago 2
@WhyAskQuestions Are you fucking delusional?!? All Richard Gage has is evidence. Un-ignited thermite is not evidence? Molten steel under building 7 is not evidence? Why don't we get some fucking evidence from the govt? Why don't they show us the videos of the plane hitting the pentagon they confiscated? You're telling me that video footage of building 7 falling at free-fall is not evidence of controlled demolition? Small office fires do NOT demolish 47 story buildings in eight seconds.
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525 it is not really 'Gage that has it" -[all this evidence] but the events themselves which conclusively reveal the use of preplanted explosives in the Towers and wtc7
winston2015 6 months ago
@winston2015 Yea, I know...But he's the one presenting it at the debate. I hope your original comment was a joke.
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
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75,450 DOLLARS
Richard Gage's salary in 2009 from Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. That's according to the 2009 Form 990-EZ available right now at GuidestarDOTorg, an online organization that helps track non-profits.
The total revenue for 2009 -- 344,570. Salaries for Gage and others topped out at 107,417. That means salaries constitute 31% of AE911Truth's expenses.
In other words, Richard Gage's salary is 21% of all revenue received by AE911Truth in 2009.
911 TRUTH = 911 LIES
ctcole77 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
"All Richard Gage has is evidence."
No, all he has is accusations which you trumpet every day you debate someone about 9/11.
Everything you just said or asked me is fucking hilarious. Seriously, who the fuck told you those whoppers?
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions No, he has not made one single accusation, he is only reviewing evidence. You are obviously not paying attention or you're retarded. My guess is you are retarded.
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
Reviewing evidence for the past 10 years and still he can't prove anything? LMFAO that's hilarious!
My guess is that you can't think for yourself and that's why you're a lonely nutcase Truther.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions Right, and the govt proved it all. Cause you figured it all out by yourself...you sound like a certified state cheerleader. And you haven't said anything of importance...By the way it's not his job to prove anything, it's only his job to provide evidence that the story we were given may be false and raise questions to bring about a REAL investigation so that we CAN prove what happened and not just be a bunch of government ass kissing, mindless, brainless, thoughtless followers
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
"you haven't said anything of importance"
Likewise dumbass!
"REAL investigation so that we CAN prove"
Not gonna happen without evidence shit for brains!
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
"bunch of; ass kissing, mindless, brainless, thoughtless followers"
I just knew you'd admit to being something.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions like you.
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
I laugh at your intellect or lack thereof. If you really wanted to prove me wrong then provide me evidence for every little fucked up claim/theory you have. If you don't have evidence & are here for shits & giggles, you might as well say that you've fucked yourself in the process because frankly, that's what you just did.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions Why don't you provide evidence? We went to wars based on your bullshit story. You sound like a complete idiot. I haven't heard you say one thing that means anything. Fucking dumbass. Why don't YOU prove how building 7 came down? Prove how un-ignited thermite ended up in the dust samples. YOU PROVE IT. Otherwise don't waste my time loser.
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
"Why don't you provide evidence?"
The experts already did that many years ago.
"You sound like a complete idiot."
And you're not a firefighter either you moron.
"Fucking dumbass"
Baby!
"YOU PROVE IT."
Not my proof to present, you said thermite was used, you prove it.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions You sound like you've been smoking meth. You don't make any coherent sense. The "experts" explanation is a pile of dogshit. You want proof of thermite? There is un-ignited thermite in the dust. You ass.
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
Respond to this video... You talk about a lack of intellect, meanwhile you haven't said one intelligent thing regarding your understanding of 9-11. Nothing. You are a phony and a chump. I love how you stupid you make yourself look by trying to say I look stupid. Idiot.
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
Go fuck yourself you idiotic fool. You've done alot of making yourself out to be a psychotic fuck and all I needed to do was push you over the edge. You people are fucking easy to piss off and I find that hilarious.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions You're a retard
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
Come on you pansy, make me laugh by calling me every name in the Truther handbook. It's people like you that are the reason why there aren't 2 species of humans because if being a Truther is a species, you'd be extinct.
I suggest you watch the movie: "Idiocracy", because in your little sad world you're nothing but a lazy stupid redneck.
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions You're pathetic
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
Ya, I know people like you who don't have any evidence to prove their retarded theories is pathetic. Thanks for telling me you are pathetic. That's a load off my chest! LMAOAY = Laughing My Ass Off At You
WhyAskQuestions 6 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions That's the exact reason why I called you pathetic. I hope you got a good phony laugh you pathetic fake. It's people like you who cannot argue or debate that make your bullshit story seem even more ridiculous. You are a homo... =D
Jmarrero2525 6 months ago
@Jmarrero2525
You called me "pathetic" but yet you can't debunk me because you lack 2 things: Intelligence and evidence?
How can the Official Story be bullshit when they have photographic and video evidence, DNA results and eyewitness accounts that shows everyone that 19 hijackers did what they were trained to do and you have nothing to counter with?
Is that all you Truthers can do is call people names because you