When I do Quas/Wex build on invoker I typically get 1 level of exort at level 6 right before I hit level 7 as that's when i get two skill slots so I can have all my spells available to me despite the long cooldown atleast I can use say defeaning blast when I need to and I just generally have more utility.
Your late invoker is bad. You kept thinking as a quas wex invoker, and casting 2-3 spells in teamfights. Could have killed a few heroes with the sun strike. The meteor would definitely help as well.
how come no one does Extort build anymore? i remember when invoker came out it was all about Extort and meteor/blast combo. use to just obliterate people.
The reason to get a fast aghanim is not the 2sec cooldown on lvl 4/5 but to have one lvl of invoke much earlier this way... I finish it around lvl 11-ish.. and that boosts my midgame a lot... maybe I have to add that I go for all 3 elementes after lvling quas and wex till 4/5
My only complaint was the level 2 Wex at 4. That level is largely unneeded, as you're not going to be casting EMP and rarely will be casting Tornado at that stage of the game. Another level of Quas brings your regen from ~4 to ~7, allowing you to skip out on some consumables, harass harder, and have a more powerful Cold Snap.
@Rezius Think it's a decent farming and single target focus build, and really good for sneaking a early Rosh as well. However, besides Ice Wall, it doesn't have much extension when it comes to team fight spells though
I tried Invoker in Dota2 and clicked Legacy Hotkeys and it did nothing except for the Quas, Wex, Exort (QWE). None of the spells had the legacy hotkeys, they were only D or F, or whatever you make the secondary spell hotkeys. Can you even get customized hotkeys for every single one of his spells or must you use the new hotkey system? Reply to me if you have answer. Thanks in advance.
why are you buying euls and then dont make good use of it? use it in a teamfight against dazzle before he can grave someone or get the graved hero in the air, you had like atleast 3 opportunities to do so
excellent game despite the few mistakes; you sure can cast your spells faster than me! Ice wall at 36:35 was really nice i wouldnt have pulled it off lol
@Shadowzdota Ouch... I didn't know, I'm not much of an Invoker player myself >_> Then how does this work...? If you invoke a new spell does it take the f spot and the last invoked spell takes D?
You don't need starting tangoes if you're putting levels into quas, as even with level 2 quas you get ~7 hp/sec regen. Better to spend that gold on more stats. (HP pot is alway good for burst regen).
Nice guide and video- but if you're maxing Wex first how come you never use EMP early game? Lots of times you had plenty of mana and tornado/snap were on cooldown but still you don't invoke Wex... I guess because of high mana costs? :s
As i've said in your QoP video, you really need to check teammate items more and levels. You have a very low understanding of how the game is flowing through real information and you can't always just trust in your intuition based on feel.
man you're Invoker so bad XD those new hotkeys do take some getting used to.
But seriously, why would you take quas beyond 4? having a longer duration on cold snap is *ok* but I think having deafening blast, ice wall, big alacrity damage, and two forged spirits is just so much better even without teamfights every minute.
Imo just seems like a waste to get a high level of quas.
Also I think grabbing one level on exhort inlane is always a good plan if your not decimating the lane yet.
@KwaadCore If you didn't know, adding quas gives you 2 str, which in turn gives 19 x 2 (38) hp, which invoker needs badly, and also additional 1 hp regen per orb. Adding quas is just him being more defensive, I don't see how it is a waste.
i like putting 1 into every skill at the start just so i have access to ice wall and such. No reason not to get at least 1 level of exort imo. I like playing wex/quas as well and i found it best to alternate it once i hit level 4 wex and match quas up.
-what you stated at ~ 5:45. The first trigger of the stun will go just after u casted it and then there will be a cooldown before u can stun a second time. So if you attack and cast the spell the stun will only trigger from the first casting and not from the actual attack.
-it may be better to lvl up quas at 3 because u wont use tornado or emp any time earlier as 4 (just not wort it)
-one level of exort is enough (in the midgame) as u only want the effects of the spell.
i play invoker a lot but i prefer going quas,invoke, wex,exort then max wex and i usually go phase boots,jango, aghanims asap :P and i use a lot more spells :/ its kinda more fun cause you can do whatever u want... this is more of a setup, chase build :/
Nice, this is something i rlly have been needing since I am in base a HON player who is trying to get (back) in to dota and invoker is a hero who I have been having trouble to get.
Ty again for what I hope will be a good vid (i do not have time to watch it now) and sorry for my bad English.
When I do Quas/Wex build on invoker I typically get 1 level of exort at level 6 right before I hit level 7 as that's when i get two skill slots so I can have all my spells available to me despite the long cooldown atleast I can use say defeaning blast when I need to and I just generally have more utility.
L337Zealot 4 days ago
@13:04 its qqw :)
Raptor767 4 days ago
for playing invoker perfect you just need to be korean....
TerroDragon23 3 weeks ago
@TerroDragon23 greatest bullshit i've ever heard
Vito91pl 3 weeks ago
07:08 you could've killed storm with a tornado
Pshynosis 4 weeks ago
this should be titled "how not to play invoker"
snak3145 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
that was painful to watch...
snak3145 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Your late invoker is bad. You kept thinking as a quas wex invoker, and casting 2-3 spells in teamfights. Could have killed a few heroes with the sun strike. The meteor would definitely help as well.
Nice tips though. :)
jebenbin 1 month ago
how come no one does Extort build anymore? i remember when invoker came out it was all about Extort and meteor/blast combo. use to just obliterate people.
LordBob858 1 month ago in playlist More videos from LuminousInverse
FAST FINGERS! WHERE DO YOU TRAIN EM ;)
TiffanyWinks 1 month ago
most of invoker player want old hotkey back !!!! pls some1 tell to valve about this !!!
aauthority 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Wait a second...
When you buy items do they automatically transfer to your inventory? And you don't need to be next to a shop to purchase?
allhailSTEWIEGRIFFIN 1 month ago
@allhailSTEWIEGRIFFIN What? No...
1337eddie 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@complicatedrage
And stick to watching and don't comment cos your grammar is pathetic
N0obE4t3rz 1 month ago
The reason to get a fast aghanim is not the 2sec cooldown on lvl 4/5 but to have one lvl of invoke much earlier this way... I finish it around lvl 11-ish.. and that boosts my midgame a lot... maybe I have to add that I go for all 3 elementes after lvling quas and wex till 4/5
crumangee 1 month ago
"REGEN RUNE!No?Okay :("
:DDD
Gj,nice vid)
TexusEn1gma 1 month ago
Invoker is fking op, way too versatile, unpredictable, period
ayoubkhalil1 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
All of the characters in learning with lumi series are INT heroes = =
TheBelkProductions 1 month ago in playlist More videos from LuminousInverse
@TheBelkProductions INT heroes are most fun, followed by STR then AGI. Well that's my opinion anyways. (Note PoTM and SF are still really fun)
allhailSTEWIEGRIFFIN 1 month ago
Just stick to commentating, ure invoker is pathetic.
Complicatedrage 1 month ago
@Complicatedrage try to play while casting,then think about what you're saying about lumi
blizz812 1 month ago
My only complaint was the level 2 Wex at 4. That level is largely unneeded, as you're not going to be casting EMP and rarely will be casting Tornado at that stage of the game. Another level of Quas brings your regen from ~4 to ~7, allowing you to skip out on some consumables, harass harder, and have a more powerful Cold Snap.
Janggo needs a mention as well!
DCPhantom4 1 month ago
Hey Lumi, what's your opinion on quas/exort cold snap+autist spirits build?
I tried it in a couple of games and armor shred just feels so good.
Rezius 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Rezius Think it's a decent farming and single target focus build, and really good for sneaking a early Rosh as well. However, besides Ice Wall, it doesn't have much extension when it comes to team fight spells though
LuminousInverse 1 month ago
I tried Invoker in Dota2 and clicked Legacy Hotkeys and it did nothing except for the Quas, Wex, Exort (QWE). None of the spells had the legacy hotkeys, they were only D or F, or whatever you make the secondary spell hotkeys. Can you even get customized hotkeys for every single one of his spells or must you use the new hotkey system? Reply to me if you have answer. Thanks in advance.
jigglefloyd 1 month ago
for the most part..gg guys
SuicidalKit 1 month ago
lol lumi why you have such strange hotkeys for items when you click them everytime..
Lightningdude 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Disappointed at lumi's noon invoker =x only know how to use 2 spells? I gotta say that's some crappy last hitting too.
ongbrandon 1 month ago
Great !
TheOneFallingDown 1 month ago
WTF key spell only d and f not xycz and soo on wtf change pls !!!!!
aauthority 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
is it just me, but i can hear lumi but the scene is stuck at 0:01...???
FaFeelFeel 1 month ago
downside of ghostwalk is that they will know when to dust or ward even if u do not cast it in front of them
TwistedFate42 1 month ago
Gotta say im impressed!
laaarsas 1 month ago
why are you buying euls and then dont make good use of it? use it in a teamfight against dazzle before he can grave someone or get the graved hero in the air, you had like atleast 3 opportunities to do so
GSFLuma 1 month ago
@GSFLuma he get it mainly for ms.
edwardyf 1 month ago
@GSFLuma hindsight is 20/20 kid...
SmogHouseTradingCo 1 month ago
Forgot to talk about jango
HiDarMeng 1 month ago
excellent game despite the few mistakes; you sure can cast your spells faster than me! Ice wall at 36:35 was really nice i wouldnt have pulled it off lol
xman374 1 month ago
There's a legacy key option for your keyboard options you know...
HiDarMeng 1 month ago
@HiDarMeng those are the legacy hotkeys, all invoked spells are D and F no matter what
Shadowzdota 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Shadowzdota Ouch... I didn't know, I'm not much of an Invoker player myself >_> Then how does this work...? If you invoke a new spell does it take the f spot and the last invoked spell takes D?
HiDarMeng 1 month ago
involker is the most fun char ive had in any MOBA game
winawar12 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
will there be any other Invoker builds featured? like a Quas-Exort build, for example?
NOTE: im not saying that Quas-Exort (or any other build) is/isnt a viable build, but will you be featuring other Invoker builds?
ArashiKai 1 month ago
lumi stop using your mouse on inventory items, c'mon man
mrsoultwister 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
wow..i wish i can play dota 2.. :c
more video lumi..thanks
shawnmatty18 1 month ago
DO MORE OF THESE, LUMI
nikeaddictSG 1 month ago
haha nice 1 ur actually really pro at dota! :)
MrDinV 1 month ago
You don't need starting tangoes if you're putting levels into quas, as even with level 2 quas you get ~7 hp/sec regen. Better to spend that gold on more stats. (HP pot is alway good for burst regen).
Thumbs up guys etc. !!1!!!1!! ^_^
StoneFaceJ 1 month ago
invoker is my fav hero.and quas wex is my skill build. this video really helps a lot.. tnx
jazrel13 1 month ago
Nice guide and video- but if you're maxing Wex first how come you never use EMP early game? Lots of times you had plenty of mana and tornado/snap were on cooldown but still you don't invoke Wex... I guess because of high mana costs? :s
nigmanoname 1 month ago
is there like warkey for dota 2???
how to download ?
help pls ^_^
disturbed1831 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@disturbed1831 u don't need warkeys in dota 2..u can set ur keys to what u want it to be
FisherManPride 1 month ago
@disturbed1831 You can change your keybinds in the preferences menu of DotA 2, its the button that looks like a cog.
enisgo 1 month ago
As i've said in your QoP video, you really need to check teammate items more and levels. You have a very low understanding of how the game is flowing through real information and you can't always just trust in your intuition based on feel.
EternaLEnVy 1 month ago
where could I find some active in house leagues that doesn't require you to be at a very high skill level?
winterqsea 1 month ago
why switch from legacy hotkeys?
EmptyMemory 1 month ago
man you're Invoker so bad XD those new hotkeys do take some getting used to.
But seriously, why would you take quas beyond 4? having a longer duration on cold snap is *ok* but I think having deafening blast, ice wall, big alacrity damage, and two forged spirits is just so much better even without teamfights every minute.
Imo just seems like a waste to get a high level of quas.
Also I think grabbing one level on exhort inlane is always a good plan if your not decimating the lane yet.
KwaadCore 1 month ago
@KwaadCore If you didn't know, adding quas gives you 2 str, which in turn gives 19 x 2 (38) hp, which invoker needs badly, and also additional 1 hp regen per orb. Adding quas is just him being more defensive, I don't see how it is a waste.
ghyc 1 month ago
@ghyc Good point I had not thought about that.
KwaadCore 1 month ago
Lumi i think u couldve killed storm at 7:09 if u prepared tornado after u used ur cold snap :)
123califax 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Lucky mofo
valleyofnapalm 1 month ago
what is FPVOD again? I don't know or remember
KamaleondeMar 1 month ago
@KamaleondeMar First Person Video On Demand
valleyofnapalm 1 month ago
@KamaleondeMar First Person Video On Demand
winterqsea 1 month ago
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TheManGuyDude 1 month ago
i like putting 1 into every skill at the start just so i have access to ice wall and such. No reason not to get at least 1 level of exort imo. I like playing wex/quas as well and i found it best to alternate it once i hit level 4 wex and match quas up.
ceelo4 1 month ago
this guide rocks, it really made me own some pubs, ty lumi
deycha1 1 month ago
Man i hate watching a game i really wanna play lol
St4ssWtF 1 month ago
Man i hate watching a game i really wanna play lol
St4ssWtF 1 month ago
-what you stated at ~ 5:45. The first trigger of the stun will go just after u casted it and then there will be a cooldown before u can stun a second time. So if you attack and cast the spell the stun will only trigger from the first casting and not from the actual attack.
-it may be better to lvl up quas at 3 because u wont use tornado or emp any time earlier as 4 (just not wort it)
-one level of exort is enough (in the midgame) as u only want the effects of the spell.
Iwin828 1 month ago
@Iwin828 In the "mid" game you should be able to have it all upgraded, remember there are no stats to lvl up for that hero...
St4ssWtF 1 month ago
mann, invoker looks pretty sick in dota 2. Gonna play him 24/7 once I get a beta key. xD
JaakesMusic 1 month ago
u no chinese new year?! lol
SHlNeeFAN 1 month ago
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toxicboy325 1 month ago
i play invoker a lot but i prefer going quas,invoke, wex,exort then max wex and i usually go phase boots,jango, aghanims asap :P and i use a lot more spells :/ its kinda more fun cause you can do whatever u want... this is more of a setup, chase build :/
snakeddj 1 month ago
invoker my best hero :D
PhantomAssassin7 1 month ago
hmm Lumi you should go for exort a little bit in early level,because you missed a few kills due to the fact that you only had quas and wex
MusicForLoserz 1 month ago
thx for the guide lumi
Waxwa89 1 month ago
Second!! :) LOVE U LUMI
nybeee 1 month ago
Nice, this is something i rlly have been needing since I am in base a HON player who is trying to get (back) in to dota and invoker is a hero who I have been having trouble to get.
Ty again for what I hope will be a good vid (i do not have time to watch it now) and sorry for my bad English.
TheVaultDescendant 1 month ago
First!
BloodyHand29 1 month ago